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Pathfinder General /pfg/

What kind of cute character are you making for Fluffy Tails v2?
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
Who's the cutest and cuddliest app so far? Who's the best waifu/husbando?

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU (embed)

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Legendary Kineticists II Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_w1o5dSef2tzu2GDLnJKElHY3uyETzuzFHDAjI6P6k/edit?usp=sharing

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>>51050884
>tfw no cute dark_skin apps
wow, I didn't know pfg was a bunch of raging faggots
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Regardless of the OP, who I believe copied and pasted the topic from the last thread, how would you go about building your favorite Metal Gear character in PF? It can be classic MG or the Rising guys if you want to get fancy.
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>>51050884
>implying I'm making a character for the game
>implying any of my characters are cute

Ha! Ha! You are of being funny man.
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>>51050884
From pictures and descriptors alone, Lasval looks like the cutest and the best waifu.
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>>51050917
Most of Rising are initiators

Except Armstrong, who is a muscle wizard. Might even be a muscle sorcerer due to nanite bloodline being more NANOMACHINES, SON!
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>>51050933
>using a 2hu for a character pic
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Alchemist bombs require a special standard action to use, but what about ordinary splash weapons like alchemist's fire? Can they be used with martial maneuvers?

Additionally, does a bomb equipped with Targeted Bomb Admixture stop being a splash weapon and thus become able to be used with sneak attacks?
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>>51050984
Not my fault she's cute as fug
My other pick would be the one using Nemone as a char pic, but that's honestly a really meh Nemone image, even if it is from the actual game.
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>>51050998
Who's Nemone?
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>>51050998
>Nemone
who?
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>>51050884

Disregard fur

Acquire scales.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons

or keep the fur, but still acquire scales
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>>51050917
>building your favorite Metal Gear character in PF?
High level Expert, everything into various forms of Craft and Knowledge skills, as well as the Master Craftsman and magic item feats. That or an Artisan

Have him constantly comment on how everything is just like his Tian story scrolls
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>>51051008
>6 players
>14 applications
that's more than full, bud
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>>51051004
>>51051005
The cute brown one from Granblue.
She's actually a best girl, but I just really don't like that image of her.
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>>51051008
Will there be conquests of dragonwaifus?
This is a burning question, and needs to be answered.
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>>51050933
>>51050984
>>51050998
>>51051004
>>51051005
How does it feel to know that Kagerou and Nemone aren't going to BOTH make it into the game, because their concepts are too similar?
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>>51051036

Hoarding Princesses, Kidnapping treasure, and high adventure.


P.S.

The princesses need not be human.
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>>51051048
I like the sound of hoarding.
Gives me a mental image of lots of collars and fun.
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>>51051045
P bad, but I'd say Kagerou's story is a bit better done, and her picture is cuter.
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Did anyone port Weapons of Legacy to PF?

I want my Gorehowl.
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>>51050985
...I desire an answer to this as well.
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Tell me about your Synthesist Summoners.
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>>51051008

The dragon queen is a hussy! She's had over 100 clutches of eggs when the average dragon only lays about 5 clutches.
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>>51051045
can you just tell me the names they used on the applications?
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>>51050985
Ordinary splash weapons like alch fire are just normal attacks, so yes you an initiate with them, unless there's a specific ruling forbidding it somewhere.

I don't believe however, that Targeted Bomb stops it being a 'splash weapon', just stops it splashing.
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>>51051125

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4444113/
https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4445602/

>implying both will be in the game, when their backstories and gimmicks are basically the same
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Is there a way to shape more veils than you daily limit allows?
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>>51051124

I want more dragon NPCs in the NPC thread.
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>>51051074
What makes Kagerou's story better done than Nemone's?

Please respond.
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>>51051136
Man, Kagerou makes my dick beyond diamonds.

>>51051146
We need dragons everywhere.
Draconic barmaids, draconic police, draconic prostitutes
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>>51051154
I like her character dynamic more, as it involves some political intrigue, a mentor figure, better development of her skills, what I consider to be a more sound motivation.
I dunno man, I just like it better.
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>>51051146

Suggestions are more than welcome.

>>51051162
Please, those are a given. Notable NPCs is what we need.

A blurb, a short greentext, maybe a paragraph or two.

If you've got ideas, share them.
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>>51051154
Pretty sure Musuhime got neutered after the player realized they were making a futa in a game where the DM doesn't like futa

>tfw I'm no one's waifu
>tfw chromebooks don't have the storage for reaction face folders
>;_;
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>>51051080
Here's a tip for porting to Pathfinder from 3.5: Just fucking use it, Pathfinder is 3.5 with some doodads added on.

Or go find the conversion document, the worst is to subtract three skill points and occasionally change what feats do.
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>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/dwarf
Under dwarf it states that dwarves can take Shadowhunter. However it does not list what it would replace. Is this a mistake? Can dwarves take shadowhunter?
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>>51051184
Well, an information broker would certainly be an interesting character concept.
A shrewd, potentially lecherous , lady who's actually a dragon with quite a few more years of experience and knowledge under her belt than one would think at first glance.

In addition to that, maybe some ministers or other sorts of cabinet members of Culdranth, or possibly public figures elected by their respective neighborhoods of the Demense.
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>>51051184

An innkeeper/tavern Copper dragon who is an aficionado and expert on humanoid mammaries.
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>>51051215
Never mind I just checked. Dwarves can take it and it replaces weapon familiarity, but in this case it doesn't give bonus Iron Will.
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DHB was posting about his setting for REVOLUTION game, how is it? Is it cute?
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>>51051143
Yes.
Increase your number of veils you can shape every day.
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>>51051280
Is there a way to go about that? Feat?
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>>51051124
One app has a bunch of sisters that are (I think?) all dragons. That sounds like romanceable npcs to me.
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>>51051080
Gorehowl is actually statted in the Warcraft RPG, which is essentially just 3.5
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>>51051286
like "shape veil"?
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>>51050985
>>51051096

They are Thrown weapons first, Splash weapons second. So unless the maneuver specifies it doesn't work with splash weapons, it does.

The sneak attack is usually up to the Gm, but by raw it just losses the "splash damage" and hand still has the Splash quality.

When I gm, as long as there's no splash zone, I let sneak attack work with the Precise Bombs.
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>>51051299
>>51051199
Neat. Thanks, anons!
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Who do you think will make it into Molthune?
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What are some of the better prestige classes that advance caster level at every level? Was thinking of going into Mage of the Third Eye if only because they have class features, unlike the Wizard.
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Is the Teisatsu vigilante any good?
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>>51051349
Honestly? Kurat and Twins.
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>>51051376
>Twins
Duo apps are cancer, they're basically all about jerking off the partner in the duo and interacting with nobody else.
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What would a person with Int and Wis 7 and Cha 16 be like?
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>>51051390
D-duo apps are cancer?

>>51051394
Raw animal magnetism, but lacking the common sense to realize that the ladies want to slob his knob.
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>>51051394
JJ's waifu.
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>>51051400
pfg thinks everything's cancer anon.
As long as you have fun with the idea you got, don't worry about it.
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>>51051394
The word "bimbo" exist for a reason.
Sometimes a person's only claim to fame is how attractive they are.
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>>51051436
o-ok
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>>51051478
As long as you're not shit posting, you're good.
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>>51051336
What about stuff like tempest gale where you can turn your attack into a line or other AoE? Does it lose the splash quality or does every square adjacent to the line get doused?
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So, DSP Psionics expects.
What of value is in Psionics Unleashed Revised that isn't in Ultimate Psionics? Revised came out 2 years later but has less in it overall, at least in pure page count (236pg to ults 452). Is it mostly errata stuff? Or is there new things to be found?
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>>51051394
Kim Kardashian
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How do applications usually work on roll20, just make a forum post with everything that would go on your sheet?
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>>51051628
Usually you put the sheet itself on Myth-Weavers or a similar site.
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>>51051523
Unless said otherwise, it does just as advertised.

Which in reality still isn't that crazy, Splash weapons tend to be "eh" with even alchemist bombs still allowing reflex saves to halve the Splash of their bombs.
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>>51051640
Oh that makes sense, then link it directly to the GM, or still post it so other applicants can see them?
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>>51051509
See >>51051644
I fucked up and tapped on the wrong shit.
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>>51051648
The latter, unless you're crazy paranoid.
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>>51051457
CHA IS A MENTAL ABILITY.
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>>51051394
Shounen protagonist.

An absolute fool but with the sheer force of personality to push through any challenge and make people like them anyway.
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>tfw slowly building setting up before actually posting the game link just in case players don't want to originate from the country the game is being played in
making your own setting is fun, but it's hard to know when you've written enough for a player to get a good feel for what a character coming from a country would be like
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>>51051909

I think most people roll around with 500 turbo autistic characters ready to drop on any poor DM.
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What is the quickest non offensive (no "feeding to your summoned monster", please) way to give a proper burial for the fallen foes?
Magic is an option, but up to 2nd spell level max. Digging grave is an option, but if there is quicker ways - I'd be glad to know. After all, there are a lot of real and fictional burial rituals, made by humanity over it's history.
Also, fire, probably, isn't an option in most cases, since it takes a lot of heat to completely burn human corpse.
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>>51051909
If you're the guy who was posting earlier, we've already suggested making life easier by getting good players first, then building the setting with some help.

Seriously, the less you nail down, the easier it can be, and doing hours of work on a country possibly no-one will even glance at is inefficient use of time.

But, it's up to you, of course. I would say a paragraph blurb for each country and expand on it only if players take an interest. But I'm lazy.
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>>51051929
>>51051946
i guess i can just link now and if people need more given, i can write more / work with people to flesh them out.
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>>51051945
Summon monster with dig speed. At level 4 (for 2nd level spells) the monster can grab a person, drag it as they dig down, drop it, surface, and do it 3 more times.
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>>51051945

I dont know if there's a Golarion religion that does it, but you could write the backstory of the character as their religion sees the physical body as a shell and it's the passing of the soul that matters. Then it's just making some ritual for the soul like placing some coins on them to pay the ferryman, doing some hand gestures, reading a prayer, or something similar. Bonus points for being a sin eater and eating their sins to cleanse their soul.
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>>51051980
Brilliant! Thanks.
Can Earth Elemental do this? His burrow is spelled as "Earth Glide", but there is nothing about taking items (bodies)

> Earth Glide (Ex)

> A burrowing earth elemental can pass through stone, dirt, or almost any other sort of earth except metal as easily as a fish swims through water. If protected against fire damage, it can even glide through lava. Its burrowing leaves behind no tunnel or hole, nor does it create any ripple or other sign of its presence. A move earth spell cast on an area containing a burrowing earth elemental flings the elemental back 30 feet, stunning the creature for 1 round unless it succeeds on a DC 15 Fortitude save.

>>51052026
That's a given, but I just want to add a burial too.
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>>51052040
We had a big argument a while back and the answer was no, as it doesn't actually make a tunnel.
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Ok, early Lazy Princess stuff is up.

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/forum/1907889/

I'll keep working on it during the coming days.
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>>51052204
oh god damn it wrong link i'm a retard gimme a minute
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Why doesn't Pathfinder do what this game >>51048928 does and admit that some characters are supposed to be stronger/better than others?
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>>51052204
>>51052221
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65876/misadventures-of-a-lazy-princess

THIS should be the right one unless I'm even more of a retard than I thought.
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>>51052248

Because it's assumed the players know this.
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>>51052273
That obviously means someone's not doing their job right, since many people labour under that misapprehension.
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>>51052310
They are doing their job perfectly according to Ivory Tower Design.
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Are there any standardized rules for property ownership? Average costs for real estate, etc.
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>>51052256
>max HD

Please don't do this, it makes warders stupid durable, more so than they already are.

It also means d6 HD viziers, incanters, etc. are really, really frail compared to those d12 HD warders.

Please do max at 1st level then average after that.
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>>51052375
Hm, I see your point.

Alright.
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>>51052256
Too much exposition, not enough incitement. Compare to fluffy tails character blurb:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

A fluffy tail (original) had a very good layout of what the campaign was about, was snappy, suggested the initial starting point and focused the game around the players.

This campaign ad is much less alluring.

A suggestion might be to have a short, in character appeal from the Princess herself at the start of it?
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>>51052401
Ah, yes, thank you, I'll write something different.

It's 5 am so my brain isn't exactly at peak efficiency right now, but I'll fix things up.
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>>51052401
>A fluffy tail (original) had a very good layout of what the campaign was about, was snappy, suggested the initial starting point and focused the game around the players.

That's just a useless wall of text though, it's way too long.
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>>51052183
I don't think there are any monsters up to level 2, that can get such complicated command from summoner and have burrow speed too. Aside from elementals. Actually, it seems only earth elemental has burrow on the list (at least at levels 1-3).
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>>51052425
>>51052401
Okay, I trimmed it down and opened with a letter from the Princess herself.

If it still needs tailoring, let me know, and I'll fix it throughout the day.

I've only really run campaigns for friends before, so I apologize if I'm not good at selling them to strangers.
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>>51051036
>>51051048
Sounds like you belong in the Towergirls thread.
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>>51050884
Just started Pathfinder with some friends. I'm the GM (tfw I can't play :'( ) and none of us have ever played PF or DnD before.


Anyway, myself and 2 others are LARPers, so a lot more comfortable with the systems. One of them is basically being a team killing fucktard. Randomly killing other team members, trying to fight, and also killing/fighting NPC's which were going to move the story along. Every time I try to give them an NPC to help them with a particularly tough area, or somebody who can actually fill them in, he tries to kill them. Hes also the party's tank, and has annoyingly high armor, so pretty much everybody but our wizard gets fucked on.

Anyway, how would you guys deal with this? I used GM fuckery to essentially temporarily lobotomize his character until he stopped being a prick, but it's getting old very fast. Already some of them are starting to enjoy it less. The same player also quetions the GM (me) constantly. A while ago a party member rolled a natural 20 to convince the cultists to take him and an NPC into another room, so the rest of the party could sneak out with their magic artefact. I said yep, and it worked, but now the NPC was stuck in the room, and to get him out the party member in there would have to do something. Instantly the team killing fucktard starts telling me that's not how it works, and because it was a 20 everything goes how they want. He also claimed that the 20 should mean he can steal all their shit on the way out and they weren't able to notice. I was under the impression a natural 20 could only work for 1 action, not a series of actions. Am I wrong here? Or is the TKF just being a fucktard?
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>>51052256
Ha ha! Excellent!
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>>51052586
Pull the player in question aside and tell them to stop being a dick. If that doesn't work, tell them to GTFO.

>Instantly the team killing fucktard starts telling me that's not how it works, and because it was a 20 everything goes how they want. He also claimed that the 20 should mean he can steal all their shit on the way out and they weren't able to notice. I was under the impression a natural 20 could only work for 1 action, not a series of actions. Am I wrong here? Or is the TKF just being a fucktard?
Not how it works. Nat 20 isn't even an automatic success on a skillcheck, and it has no special effects aside from the total of the skillcheck being 20+bonuses.
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>>51052586
Kick the teamkilling fucktard.
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>>51052256
>Eastern nation
>princess in Western clothing

Why is this allowed?
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>>51052622
Eastern theme, but not eastern dress, my friend.
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>>51052622
I actually couldn't find a picture that fit and liked the one that was given before, but I could use that.

>>51052633
Dunno what this guy is on about.
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>>51052622
Because FILTH.

People like that make me want to mutilate.
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>>51052612
I've told him outright that if he gets in the way of the game for the others, that I'm gonna just lobotomize his character (oh no! You fell and hit your head! You're in a daze until another party member decides to wake you up!) every time he's a dick until he either stops or quits. He's just being a smarmy little prick now, and trying to find ways to beat me with the system and using obscure (to us) rules that take a minute for me to verify. Seems like I'm gonna have to seriously consider kicking him, but at this point it'd fuck up the party dynamics, and all of our other interested friends can't play because of time commitments.


Also, good to know about the nat 20. I was caught off guard when he said that, and told him that since I'm GM, it's up to me. It's nice to know I wasn't just being a dictatorial bastard.

>>51052617
I would, but that'd leave the party basically down to 3 people with no tank, and our other friends who are interested are all busy with other shit for the next few weeks. I'd rather keep him for at least a few more sessions if at all possible. That being said, I'm starting to consider it.
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>>51052633
Is the time slot set in stone?
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>>51052649
Use this, she's a cutie.
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>>51052682
Don't solve out of game problems with in game consequences.
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>>51052683
No, it was just the first one that came to mind.

I just know I only really have Tuesday and Thursday nights open during the week, and then all of Sunday open.

>>51052691
Roll20 is being a shit and not letting me upload any picture that isn't the first one and not giving an error, which is odd.

Maybe I'll use one of these for her actual profile and just leave this one as the campaign picture if it won't fix.
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>>51052691
Or maybe this?
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>>51050884
How do you guys deal with a party who doesn't want to advance the story, but really likes the campaign and doesn't want to change?

>Party is full of noobs
>They all love the concept I came up with
>Having a heap of fun
>Really want to advance the story
>Have asked me a few times if I have an ending, and how long the campaign will take
>I've got a few different ways they can go, but all essentially leads to similar paths
>They're constantly resisting anything I do to try to move the story along
>Killing NPC's who have information they need, leaving castles with enough food to travel, but not going far enough to get loot/the quest items, etc

I've asked if they want to keep playing, and they definitely do. But I guess I'm looking for a way to gently push them towards advancing the story. Which is basically what caused the undead curse, how do they stop it, and what are these weird assed items they seem to find in every stronghold they visit.


Pls help guys, I'm running out of sidequests.
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>>51052706
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>>51052706
That one worked and looks bretty good.

So I'll use this.
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>>51052712
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>>51052715
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>>51052710
Sorry, lemmie correct; THEY want to advance the story, but seem to always prevent it with their actions. Despite how heavy handed I'm getting with the directions.
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>doing an app for a campaign which starts on an airship
>half-giant Soulknife
>roll max values on both weight and height
>mfw 8'4 at 728lbs and got somebody I'm supposed to get into a fight with on the ship
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>>51052721
This one is TOO BIG

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2579061
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>>51052727
This is also TOO BIG

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2578987
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>>51052726
That airship is going to crash, isn't it?

Last time I started a game on an airship, our bard got in a fight with some guy who ended up using a fireball that blew a hole in the side of it and it crashed in a fiery explosion on an island.

We barely survived and had to make our way to the country we actually were heading to in order to start the real campaign, and by then the guy who had hired us as protection had already died.
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>>51052455
>>51052586
>Already some of them are starting to enjoy it less.
Take the guy aside and tell him that because his character's actions are making it less fun for everyone including you, it is clear that this isn't the appropriate game for him. Therefore his character is being retired from play. Thank him for his hard work up to then, and that will be all.

Don't falter, and remove him from the game.

Do NOT falter.
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>>51052256
>finally a /pfg/ game I might want to play enough to make a roll20 account
>tfw european
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>>51052745
The time isn't set in stone, friend.

I might be able to do it a lot earlier that day, or during the daytime of the previous day.
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>>51052393
It's the same anon that complains about that every time.
Max them out if you want to, anon. Warders are /meant/ to be tougher. The disparity between party member hp doesn't matter too much, what matters is that everyone can take more hits in general.
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>>51052764
I'll think about it during the day and I'll update it if I change my mind back.

I can see the reasoning behind it, but I've been so used to Max HD in games I've played in and ran that I don't really know any different at this point, yknow?
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>>51052710
>Killing NPC's who have information they need, leaving castles with enough food to travel, but not going far enough to get loot/the quest items, etc
Start destroying towns behind them. They have to push on or perish.
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>>51052800
We One Way Heroics now?
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>>51052800
I had a similar idea. In the game, most large towns have some sort of magical item protecting them from the hordes, and my players have been taking them. Usually the second they leave, I say something like "the town is overrun by undead." in a way to try to push them towards the key towns.


THe only issue is, now my players are stockpiling these items, and understand their effects (sparkly thing pushes away corpsey thing) but nobody is asking what they are or where they came from.

One player (wizard) started having our cleric check every single one, and seems to be realising they're connected. But the party still seems more interested in just visiting towns and fucking them over for no apparent reason.
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>>51052815
Stairway to heaven, pal.
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>>51052722
Make sure that the story gets advanced by failures and inaction, not just by successes.

Just ... in a different direction.
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>>51051008

What's everyone making for this?
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>>51052836
>I had a similar idea. In the game, most large towns have some sort of magical item protecting them from the hordes, and my players have been taking them. Usually the second they leave, I say something like "the town is overrun by undead." in a way to try to push them towards the key towns.
How are they taking the items that is stopping the towns from being overrun? Aren't anyone stopping them from doing so? Have towns defend them so they don't take away the items, and have the people tell them "if you take this away, we'll all die!!!"

If they start slaughtering the populace start sending armies after them telling them "You fools, you're stealing the items that are stopping the towns from being overrun by undead! What are you doing, you maniacs!"

Then progress from there.
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>>51052846
Most people are making dragons. You could do something different, and make a dragon dragon, though!
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>>51051394
Fry from Futurama
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>>51052903
A sot of... double Dragon?
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How do I become strongest Pathfinder?
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>>51052843
I'm thinking of having them "randomly encounter" somebody who's ridiculously powerful, and has an interest int the items, and takes one after overpowering the party and hinting how they have no idea what they've got. I'm just a little worried it's too sudden and heavy handed. The only real consequence of losing that fight for them would be they lose one of the mysterious items.

>>51052866
The first one was a small village, and they actually role played pretty hard, so I let them keep it. The second time was a larger town/city, and they honestly shouldn't have succeeded, if I'm being honest with myself. I'm pretty new to GMing (and pathfinder in general) so I need to crack down. Only issue is, they seem to have the mindset that taking these items is a good idea, despite it being clear that the towns are basically fucked afterwards. I'm not sure if I should tell them out of game that they should be asking more questions about these items, or if I should try to find some heavy handed way to tell them in game that they need to pay more attention. I guess I'm just hoping one of you guys will have an idea of ways to nudge my players in the direction of "stop being such dicks to everyone".

I may start sending soldiers or mercenaries after them as you suggest, then leaving letters on the corpses that explain those artifacts are important, and must not be remove from the towns.
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We must sort RoTJR, from biggest to smallest
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>>51052947
>I may start sending soldiers or mercenaries after them as you suggest
Those things keep the towns from being overrun by the undead, you say? Send hold orders. Paladins and clerics and possibly monks. This also makes sure that surrendering becomes an option, because with "good"-aligned opponents, they can have some expectation of being taken prisoner and talking their way out of the mess instead of hanging from the nearest tree.
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Wizard it up.
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>>51052991
>>51052942

fug
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6 level 5 players come across a band of six mercs.

Would the mercs also all being level 5 in their respective PC classes be too high of a challenge?
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>>51053005
There are way too many factors you've left out to give an answer other than "maybe".
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>>51052256
>lazy princess is resigned to die in ritual combat with brother after 3 years and we're going to show her worth by doing brave deeds in her name

FUCK THAT NOISE
WE HAVE 3 YEARS AND A STRICT TRAINING SCHEDULE
SHE'S GOING TO BE KILLING DEMIGODS BY THE END OF IT AND SHE'LL BREAK HER OWN BROTHER IN TWO ON HER KNEES

WITH HER BARE HANDS

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS, TO DEFEAT THE HUNS
DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS, WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS?
YOU'RE THE SADDEST BUNCH I EVER MET
BUT YOU CAN BET BEFORE WE'RE THROUGH
MISTER, I'LL MAKE A MAN OUT OF YOU
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>>51051229
>>51051230

Zeldxxixz, patron of the arts and Culdranth's eldest daughter that hasn't flown the coop yet. She runs The Roost, an inn that caters to both Dragons and humans. Also is the leader of "The Sewing Circle" an information trading organization that trades secrets for magic items
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>>51052764
>>51052771
>The disparity between party member hp doesn't matter too much, what matters is that everyone can take more hits in general.
Horseshit, the warder's d12 HD gets a hell of a lot better a deal from maxed HD than a vizier, incanter, etc. with a measly d6 HD.

The hit point gap between them gets huuuuuuuuuuuge with maxed HD.

Maxed HD is stupid.
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>>51052959
Kyler is the smallest by far, I think, unless there are any small sized races involved. Even then she's almost the same as a max height dwarf.
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>>51053050
>retinue turn princess into the most feared empress the throne has ever seen
>she wipes the floor with all 12 of the other aspirants
yes please
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>>51052947
>I'm thinking of having them "randomly encounter" somebody who's ridiculously powerful, and has an interest int the items, and takes one after overpowering the party and hinting how they have no idea what they've got.
Alternative: A friendly NPC joins the party and has a clean interest in helping them out with obtaining even more of those items. Not for himself or herself, of course. Just ... out of curiosity, really.

Make that NPC someone for whom death is a mere inconvenience, like a lich, and any attempt of the PCs at murder will be met with amusement, but give him or her powers to mask such at first. Essentially, that's someone who knows more about the situation, but is happy to just prod the PCs along the path of destruction for the lulz. Though the lich's (or whatever's) knowledge is available if the PCs ask ... for a prize.
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>>51052256
>Asuka clan

I'm gonna anta her baka
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>>51053093
>The Sewing Circle" an information trading organization


Somebody's slogged through The Wheel of Time, I see.
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>>51053094
That's more of a problem with Warder having d12 instead of d10 than Casters being squishy faggots who shouldn't be at risk of being hit anyways.
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>>51053127
Viziers and incanters aren't exactly wizards, they don't have a toolbox to just avoid hits.
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>>51053129
That sounds like a class problem to me.

Don't viziers get all that "hit my ally instead of me" crap?
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>>51053125
What?
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A Warder only gets their Aegis bonus when using Deathless Defense / being a Zweihander Sentinel right?
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>>51053093
For some reason I see her as a fat lazy white dragon
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>>51053151
6th level Dervish Defender.
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>>51053160
Because you're a degenerate who like big flabby booties
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>>51053135
>That sounds like a class problem to me.
So don't exacerbate it by giving everyone maxed HD.
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>>51053202
Ah yeah, that's another one.
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>>51053160
She's actually rather petitea tomboy fashionista
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>>51052959
By what metric? Boob size? Weight? Muscle mass? Height?
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>tfw dual wielding dwarven waraxes and using primal warrior stance
OUTTA MY WAY YOU FUCKERS
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>>51050962
Armstrong is an Alchemist, with possibly a VMC in Barbarian. At level 16 Alchemists can get a contingency resurrection, which gives him 200% LIFE, makes him 200% MAD, and can make him super strong and tough.
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>>51053310
Hair length. List em!
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>>51053391
I think Onryou's hair is the longest
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>>51053391
Gebrek: none
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>>51053403
So we got the longest with Onryou's ankle length ponytail thing

And we got a bald guy for shortest.

Now we fill in
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>>51053431
Onryou>everyone else>Gebrek
Ok, we're done here
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>>51053230
How does one achieve the state of tomboy fashionista? Those seem counter to each other.
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>>51053544
Really versed in rugged or scrappy dude fashion
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>>51053544
Reverse traps are a thing, anon.

So are tomboys wearing tomboy styled clothing that is pretty but doesn't get in her fucking way, like pants and short sleeved shirts.

Seriously, fuck long skirts.
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>>51053586
Isn't that called bifauxan?
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>>51053604
Only if you're gay
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>>51052983
That actually sounds perfect, since their cleric is the unofficial "diplomat". THey've also encountered several clerics, and the players seem to respond well to them.


>>51053110
Ive been trying to do that. Out of 5 NPC's, one was murdered and his corpse stuffed in a bag, one was told to stay in the town, one is being kept alive as cannon fodder and not being told anything, one was stabbed in the neck and thrown in a ditch the second they left town and finally the one I tried to introduce at the end got attacked by who I suspect will be our "Thar Guy" before he could get two words out.

The party are kinda dicks.
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>>51053604

Nah thats when a lady looks like a really pretty dude
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>>51053604
No, tomobys are actually girls, know they are girls, and are often straight, but they do active, boy-like activities regardless of how messy or dangerous. They don't care about proprieties much.

Bifauxnen look masculine in a pretty way, and may or may not act like it, but they only do masculine activities that would not impair their 'cool' appearance and style. Proprieties are very important to them.

It's the difference between a class representative and a diva. One is in control of things and who usually has people who do look up to them, and the other is a primadonna who just seems like she's all that and really has no control over anything.
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>>51053666
What if they're just a fashionista for who crossdresses?
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http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Aostralya

>The gold dragon Aostralya called the most recent Convocation of Dragons in 4707 AR to discuss what impact the death of the human god Aroden might have on dragonkind. Like most of these pan-draconic gatherings, nothing substantial was agreed upon.

How many slabs of VB does the gold dragon Aostralya go through in a single day?
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>>51053811

VB?
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>>51053811
Enough to kill at least three humans
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What was Hell like before Dahak turned it into a realm of agony and flame?
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>>51053894
Very orderly trees and and bismuth
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>>51053894
You know, we might explore that in Dragon game
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>>51051008

When does Dragon game take place?
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>Looking at playing in Pathfinder Society because it seems like a quick, start playing TTRPGs now in a controlled environment
>Told to read pathfinder society roleplaying guide
>Read the Pathfinder Community Standards
>We are committed to fostering a safe environm... ect ect
>mfw
Good to know that pandering to special snowflakes takes precedence over everything else.
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>>51053964

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xajYBLu2JMU

Will the dragon game also explore if the word "dragon" can be spelled without "D-cup"?
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>If you're not a tea drinker, you should probably get rid of this letter and forget about the job entirely.

What did she mean by this?
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>>51052256
>game starts in February 5

Why does every single fucking /pfg/ game have a starting date AT LEAST one month after the listing goes up?
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>>51054130
Well I gave it a month because I'm a college student who needs to make sure that whatever time slot is eventually agreed upon actually works with my schedule for the upcoming semester, which is in a constant state of flux due to the program I'm in.
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>>51053995

Im waffling between 4716 and 4736
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>>51054083
Yes it can. Because g cups are a thing
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>>51054130

Sometimes you need time to prepare. If you dont like it, make your own game! Im sure there are plenty of players who would join it!
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>>51054141
How come everyone gave Fluffy1.0 GM shit for this?
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>>51054083
L
please. Reptiles are DFC
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>>51054249
As Long as the ass was fat, I don't mind up top.
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>>51054177
Fluffy 1.0 advertised three months in advance and cancelled once already.

Other GMs are already getting shit for advertising so far in advance, but Fluffy also had even more of a time gap AND the flaking against their name.
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>>51054285
Fluffy1.0 didn't flake though, he cancelled just two days after the listing up, before anyone submitted apps.
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>>51054277
It is written, all dragons have at least a double donk
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>>51054296
I'm not defending peoples attacks, merely providing potential explanations to herd mentality. Whether Fluffy 1.0 would have actually run or not is irrelevant compared to whether or not people thought he would run.

It's wholly irrelevant now someone else has taken up the game reins.
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>>51054083

I'm beginning to realize that in a world where everyone is either huge and bulky or thicc, the slender athletic types will seem very exotic.
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>>51051008

Aren't the dragons of the Demesne extremely perverted and degenerate for their willingness to breed with the lesser races?
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>>51054529

I'd say their lifestyle is unconventional, but not degenerate by any means; humanoid living is pleasurable, and it is a dragon's way to acquire what they desire through finesse or fire.
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>>51054572

Well they're still degenerate. By virtue of being mutants
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>>51050884
>What kind of cute character are you making for Fluffy Tails v2?

I'm not. I lack the confidence to full turbolewds.
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>>51054712
The game itself isn't turbolewd, anon! It's lewd, but actual ERP is going to be off screen!

You don't have to be turbolewd if you don't want to be!
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>>51054790
Why are exclamation point posters also cuteposters!?
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>>51054702
Where is magneto when you need him?
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>>51054790
Off screen Erp should just be /pfg/ standard now
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>>51054790
I thought the whole point of Fluffy 2 was ERPing. I mean, look at the character submissions.
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>>51054848

It's going to be sessions of awkwardly dancing around the issue before a pair shuffles off to do the horizontal tango.
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Friendly reminder that Golarion has a Not!Smaug, complete with calling himself the "Sixth King of the Five Kings Mountains" (where all the Dwarves live.)

>Whenever his inactivity causes rumours of his death, he seems to re-emerge, venting his fiery wrath across all of southern Avistan. Daralathyxl has rampaged across Andoran, Isger and Druma, and demands tribute in the form of virgin maidens (especially elven girls), mounds of coins, and priceless treasures. Those who have to placate this mighty dragon refer to him as "king", "emperor" or even "god", for he repays any slight with fire and death.
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>>51054944
Are the elves delicious brown?
If not, he should totally pay a visit to some southern isles.
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>>51055011
why can't i just have all 4?
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>>51054835
Because cuteposters want you to have a good day, anon!

I know I want you to!
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>>51055023
because you'll have a war on your hands
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>>51054249
Correct.
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>>51055063
i'd be willing to start a war if i got to cum inside all four
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>>51054835

Why does that young woman have panties on her head?
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>>51054866
Please, nothing awkward about my submission. Breast gropes galore and boobhatting everywhere. Horrible horrible teasing (don't fall asleep around her).
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>>51055090

AC Bonus.
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>>51055099

Which is yours?
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>>51055159
Sohyon. Going for trickster-ish, confident, and playful.
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>>51054944
Alright folks we need a comprehensive dump of all golorian dragon lore.some of this shit is cash
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Fluffy game is kingdom running, yeah? Kind of tempted to roll up a fluffy tail that is a stick in the mud. He's an overworked bureaucrat and he doesn't have time for your lewd hi-jinks. These forms have to filled out in triplicate and somebody has to keep an eye on the elves, or they'll just faff off all day and not do any work.
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>>51055221
Dragon DM are you fishing for campaign ideas?
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>>51055221

Look up each type of dragon color on the Pathfinder wiki, each entry includes notable dragons of that color.
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>>51055265
But what about the DEEP lore?
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>>51054866
>>51055099
Current submissions:
>arrogant thief
>trap healslut
>entirely generic kitsune dude who's a bastard
>entirely generic kitsune girl
>cutsey dogboy blacksmith
>cutsey monk kitsune girl
>arrogant murderhobo
>thoughtful sheep
>busty tricksy magical kitsune
>dick-ass dommy scheming kitsune
>generic half-kitsune
>old loli pretending to be a granny
>BraveHorse (TM)
>poledancing healslut

Most of these aren't SUPER super ERP-y, it looks like.

To be fair, most of them aren't great, either.
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>>51055290
Im never gonna play I. It.. but I did have the idea to make a Grippli Prince
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>>51055290
>To be fair, most of them aren't great, either.
Who's in the above average category?
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>>51055279

How deep are we talking here? The habits of Reds, the names of notable silvers?
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>>51055251
That sounds horrible and probably wouldn't get in. Specifically making a character that goes against the rest of the group and the intent of the game.
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A post by Casimir's player last night (>>51046122) got me thinking, could Cas x Val be the May-December romance that /pfg/ has overlooked?

We don't really know anything about Val's father and AFAIK there's no husband in the picture for Kendra Deverin so maybe he ran off when Val was young. That could leave her with all sorts of daddy issues. Couple that with the fact that the dashing foreign swordsman came to town likely during the heights of teenage Val's "unruliness" it's entirely possible that she had a crush on him back then.

Now she's returning to Sandpoint and Cas is just beginning to pick himself up after the death of his wife. The pair of trained swordsmen may spark up a friendly relationship while sparing and then Cas notices that his partner is a beautiful, fiercely intelligent, tenacious young woman (maybe she even reminds him a bit of Miranda).

Am I just grasping at straws, or could there be something really interesting and cute going on between these two?
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>>51055290
Wew, was afraid mine would be generic but I'm alright with being "busty tricksy magical Kitsune"
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>>51055221
http://paizo.com/products/btpy87gg?Pathfinder-Chronicles-Dragons-Revisited

It's never been reprinted for PF instead of 3.5, but it's pretty good for lore stuff.
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>>51055316
I won't make comment on who is above average, but of the ones who applied, these three:
>entirely generic kitsune dude who's a bastard
>entirely generic kitsune girl
>generic half-kitsune
stand out as entirely uninspired and have little to no chance of getting in. The second one isn't finished, admittedly, but there's little there for a GM to build on.
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>>51055314
>Im never gonna play I. It.. but I did have the idea to make a Grippli Prince
>>51055251
>Fluffy game is kingdom running, yeah? Kind of tempted to roll up a fluffy tail that is a stick in the mud. He's an overworked bureaucrat and he doesn't have time for your lewd hi-jinks. These forms have to filled out in triplicate and somebody has to keep an eye on the elves, or they'll just faff off all day and not do any work.

Try it! The GM said no need to crunch sheets unless you get selected, and you can churn out an app in 15 minutes, and an actually decent one with about half an hour, or longer!
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>>51055399
I rather like the generic half-Kitsune but admittedly it could just be the pic that I like.
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>>51055221

Once a century there is a great meeting of dragons on a small island off the coast of Garund (such as Thuvia) called the Convocation of Dragons.

During these meetings, dragons of both metallic and chromatic (except Blacks, since they're famously antisocial) discuss the state of the world and what they as dragonkind should be doing. As usual, hardly anyone agrees on things, HOWEVER one of the few things they can agree to is the destruction of the dragon god Dahak.

How do you kill a god? Apparently dragons know, and they want to kill Dahak. Culdranth should be no different, assuming she goes to these meetings.
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>>51055358
Holy shit, anon, that could actually work. Valeriya could be the one to mend Casimir's broken heart.
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>>51055442
It's a cute picture. But her sentence backstory is 5 sentences about her mother and 3 about her.

I think the problem here for me is that about half of the people haven't actually done anything in their backstories, don't have any goals, and don't have anything that stand out.
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>>51055290
>arrogant murderhobo

P-Please no, Nemone isn't getting in because Kagerou's got the better version of that concept, right?
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>>51055221
My girl Aasternian needs some love.
She's cheeky, clever, and semi-lewd.
Her followers can also show devotion for her by innovating and spitting fire.
I don't know if she's Golorian though.
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>>51055336
I was specifically told upthread that the game wasn't necessarily turbolewd. I fail to see how making a bureaucrat goes against the rest of the party or the intent of the game when the plot of the game is running a city-state. If I'm wrong, please explain.
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>>51055515
I should add to mine but mine is supposed to have a degree of whimsy...she doesn't want to think about goals and the future, just deal with things and desires as they come up. A fey-like attitude.
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>>51055290
>generic half-kitsune

Fuck you, Akane is super cute, goddamn.

Her app is really comfy and bright and cheery!
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>>51055515
Well, at least that doesn't describe me. Though i really have no idea who Ill be playing with.
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>>51055517
Anon that said he liked Kagerou better here.
Please don't hold my opinion in such high esteem. Whoever gets picked gets picked, and they're both cute.
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>>51050933

Wow, thank you! I feel like I still need a lot of work on making appd better, but this encourages me!

>>51050984
I didn't know!
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>>51055517
>Lasval
>kidnapped as a child
>taught monk stuff
>wants protect everyone's smiles by beating people up
>cutely innocent but presumably powerful

>Musuhime
>ran off into the wild
>became very fox
>wants to awoo and eat people
>literal predator

I don't think the concepts are particularly similar at all!

>>51055562
>>51055567
It could be me overthinking things! At level 6 you do have some experience under your belt. As Kon Kon said, your backstory length isn't going to win you points.

But there's nothing in most of the characters to meme over! What is /pfg/ going to meme about if there's not enough things to grab onto? Apart from fluffy tails

>>51055599
I make no comment on which app I prefer! And I'm not even the one judging people!
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>>51055073
I want to marry the dragon!
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>>51055358

Are you Val's player? Because if you aren't than you've been putting way too much thought into this.

If you are her player, than that sounds pretty cute! It's a potential character interaction I wasn't expecting, but I think it would be interesting to explore.
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Gulch Gunner seems pretty neat. What're some ways to bump up it's survivability? Was thinking some levels in Picaroon or Mouser (Maybe going Mysterious Stranger so I'm less MAD if possible).
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>>51055552
It's not turbolewd, but why would you specifically make a character that's going to be a wet blanket and probably won't get on with the rest of the party?
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>>51055612
Work on your spelling! Doublecheck your app!
>>51055717
An unattainable mountain is a fun challenge in a game like that. If everyone spreads their legs the instant you say hello, then there's no sense of achievement.
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>>51055552
Make a bureaucrat who used to be a limbo champion.
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What're some good traits for a Sorcerer as listed on the Pathfinder SRD traits page?
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>>51055634
We'll they are on another plane and planar cities generally have higher level creatures just by virtue of being planar...everyone in the city has PC levels from 1-6 after all, we're just at the higher end and now chosen.

I suppose I'm kind of discouraged from going too in-depth without knowing if I'll be accepted or not. I mean, I have difficulty viewing my own submission as special in any way (except largest breasts).
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>>51055767
>planar cities generally have higher level creatures just by virtue of being planar
Why is this allowed?
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>>51055739
What race, what specialty, what feats, what level, what role in the party.
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>>51055739
What kind of sorcerer? What bloodline?
What level? What race?
3rd party allowed?
Killer DM?
Social, combat or other sort of game?
Any hints to anything at all apart for "it's a sorcerer"?
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>>51055333
Deep as you want. Though I already know the mating rituals of both blacks and whites
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>>51055358
That does actually sound really cute, especially if one or both of them are initially resistant to the feelings that keep creeping in during intense practice duels.
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>>51055674
I'm not Val's player and yes I'm probably putting too much thought into it (but this is /pfg/ so when have we ever let that stop us?) I actually hadn't even looked at Val's app before this but it jumped out at me when thinking about the interaction between these two characters.
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>>51055800
Because they're more unusual and less mundane, it just makes sense since there's more danger from unusual planar creatures and obstacles.
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>>51055674
>Not theorycrafting shit about other people's characters
>When that's all we have to actually do with that game

Do you even know where you are?
I bet Shanna lets her adopted dad pet her fox form
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>>51055810
>>51055808
Sorry!
--Starsoul Sorcerer, starting at Level 3.
--A Halfling.
--No third party allowed.
--Haven't played with this DM yet, he doesn't give the murdery vibe, though.
--DM said that the game will be a reasonable mix of social stuff and combat.
--I want the character to have a Conjuration/Enchantment gimmick.
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>>51055767
>(except largest breasts).
Is your character Sohyon, Kimbrely, Akane, Musuhime or Lasval?

All of them look like titty monsters to me from their pictures.
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>>51055878
Sohyon
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Do people feel that Spheres Clerics and Sphere Druids are overpowered at all? I've heard complaints that some people don't like the fact they are full casters are they also get mid-BAB. In regular PF, they are held in check by their generally weaker spell list (compared to wizards, at least), but that doesn't apply in SoP (thankfully).
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Why does /pfg/ have so many lewd games?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65435/rise-of-the-jade-regent
>Lewds will ideally be kept in private channels (or at least out of the main channel), though some events may occur in the main channel as appropriate to the situation. Examples are lewd traps and the occasional lewd monster. The general depravity level will be decided on by the group as a whole.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/62955/slash-pfg-slash-hells-vengeance
>As for "lewdness" in the main game, that decision will be up to the players, though I expect it will range somewhere between Empowered on the tame end of the scale, with Bible Black on the absolute furthest ends (more than likely somewhere in the middle). Anything that would be beyond the chosen setting will be need to go into its own chat, should it occur. By and large, Hell and its denizens will be taking on a bit more of a "Sex, Drugs, and Rock'n'Roll" bent to it than it has in canon Golarion, while the forces of Good will swing towards the prudish and puritanical end of the spectrum.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons
>Lewd content should be, as a guideline, only a footnote in your character creation, with a hard maximum of 40% lewd. Lewd content in game should be suggestive at most. With anything extra handled after the game.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
>There will be lewds! Your foxgirl can go topless and rub her tits on a cute daoine sidhe wolfboy, but if you want sex, take it somewhat private, kay? You can post an F-List profile in your app if you want! Keep in mind this is a kemonomimi game, not a furry game.

https://app.roll20.net/join/1803693/cj7W9A
And this one has real ERP "on screen" in it, go check the chat logs.
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>>51055865
>Conjuration/Enchantment gimmick
>Starsoul
I know you asked for traits, but those two don't really match. If you like the flavor consider switching to Void-Touched, as it's basically a straight upgrade.
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>>51055905
While the system does make them decidedly less OP than their Vancian Counterparts, I've personally never liked their balance either and, considering we now have Sphere Hunters and Warpriests, I would personally drop their BABs down to Wizard level, especially since they already have a lot of bonus talents.
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>>51055865
Generally the initiative boosting traits are good, like reactionary (+2 initiative)

Sorcerers don't have perception as a class skill, so consider getting something that gives you perception as a class skill such as Seeker or Eyes and Ears of the City, or Veteran Jungle Guide.
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>>51052248
Because that game is about telling a story, this one is about team-based dungeon-crawling. Great stories often have vast differences in power level, but team objective based games rely on each member of the team being able to contribute about equally over the course of the game.

And before anybody points out "story based PF games", the fact that some people try to use the wrong system for the type of game they want to run is their own damn fault.
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>>51055902
Well, yours is snappy, and gets across her character. I wouldn't say it's a bad one at all, especially with respect to the others!
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>mfw group is finally getting into 5e
Now all I have to do is get a good grasp of the system, convert PF classes and options to 5e, and I'm golden!
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>>51055905
I miss 2e, when clerics and druids were only 6th level casters. When 3.0 bumped them to 9th it should have knocked down their HD and BAB to match wizards and sorcerers.
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>>51056100
>convert PF classes and options to 5e
Then why are you switching to 5e?
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>>51055739
Noble Scion (War) will allow you to use CHA instead of DEX for initiative. Pair it with Reactionary and get CHA+2 initiative at level 1!
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>>51055958
Lewd is fun. Story is fun too. They aren't -really- mutually exclusive.
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>>51055444
I don't think Culdranth goes to the meeting and greet. She's a bit of a recluse or hikkomori. Though I bet the old dragon ex boyfriends talk about her and her mythical promiscuity in the recess between discussion. That and the freaky multiple heads thing.
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>>51056100
>convert PF classes and options to 5e
Have fun with that.
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>>51056150
>>51056125
because I like the balance of 5e compared to PF, but I still feel like its weakness is in lack of content, and I like a lot of the content ideas from PF
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How many kitsune players wanted to be special snowflakes and now hate everyone else who ruined it for them
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>>51056100
Why come here and say this? No one cares that you play 5e.
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>>51056252
Disregard snowflakes, acquire fluffy tails.
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>>51055358
>>51055835

This could be absurdly cute.

But what about Val's alter-ego, the Vilderavn?
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>>51056229
You'd be better off trying to homebrew archetypes in 5e rather than working backwards from PF in my opinion. Personally I think 5e's a fine enough system, and I also agree it's lacking in content, I just think you'll be spending a lot of time butchering stuff if you convert from PF to 5e instead of just making what you want.

Also
> balance of 5e
Bear Totem Barbarians
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>>51055634

What's the source of your image?
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>>51055693
Bump.
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>>51056278

Those are the guys who take half damage from all nonpsychic sources, right?
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>>51056287
Looks like Gugure! Kokkuri-san.
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>>51056252
>implying people actually making and submitting characters is what ruined it
>implying it isn't the bigtitty kitsuneposters and their endless faggotry

I liked that brief period where nobody gave a shit about kitsune, and the only whisper of the damn things were about some dude who might as well have just been a human anyway.
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>>51056252
I'm just upset that so many of them have no aim. I made (and always make) an effort to give my character a personal quest, a direction, an antagonist, and some friends.

Most applications are "she's so lewd with her big boobies" and that's what pisses me off.
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>>51056365
Most people are probably just jumping on the meme bandwagon to have fun
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>>51056252
I'm in it for the lewds, being a speshul snuhflake isnt important to me except if it stands out enough to get picked. Hard to say.
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What are some fun uses for items? Like I want my wizard to use the cursed bag of devouring as a trash can for their delivery food.
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>>51056365

I'm the same way, anon, and that's part of why I'm such a huge procrastinator about applying for campaigns or working out a character sheet.

It just doesn't sit well with me to write a character and throw them into a campaign without *something* to offer the DM. A PC that doesn't have goals or ambitions is going to be a very boring PC.
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>>51050998
I'll take a better Nemone pic if you've got one for me. I picked that one because she's got a sort of playful, predatory look on her face. I don't really know the character too well 'cause I'm unfamiliar with Granblue, I just like the look of her. Pic related was the first I'd seen of her and that expression made me look for more.
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>>51056440
I feel you, I did the best I could with Ryu
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>>51056317
>bigtitty kitsuneposters
>tfw liking DFC is uncommon in /pfg/
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>>51056317
>the only whisper of the damn things were about some dude who might as well have just been a human anyway.
Of all the apps in >>51055290 everyone barring the arrogant murderhobo, busty tricksy magical kitsune and old loli pretending to be a granny could just as easily be humans.
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>>51056442

This could work for either her or another potential applicant!
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>>51056464
I came here looking for booty
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>>51056464
I hear ya!
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>>51056495
>>51056494
>>51056464
>>51056317
>tfw don't feel strongly one way or the other in the FlatvsChesty debate
>tfw the only thing that matters to you is personality, heart, love, and booty/hips/thighs
Guys, guys, guys, we've been other this a dozen times. The best boobs that exist, are the ones are the woman that you love, and who deeply loves you as well.
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>>51056495
>ywn marry a cute DFC
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>>51056464
I like both...I could put in a DFC but I dunno how the fluffy dm feels about multiple apps. Maybe using the Kitsune girl from No Game No Life as the model, with the confident self-assured behavior of one of the dwarves from queens blade
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>>51056464
>>51056551
>mfw like all kinds of things, but everyone always screams about how x is better than y every time
>or just shitposts the fetish relentlessly with no substance

At least we're at bump limit for this shitposting, but the fact that we're shitposting about it at all gets my goat.
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>>51056494
>>51056551
>Fatfags enabling themselves again
Please go
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>>51056551
>The best boobs that exist, are the ones are the woman that you love, and who deeply loves you as well.

This is good advice. Very good advice.

HOWEVER

We're speaking in a vacuum here, where personal preferences *do* have weight because the character's ego (if we want to use some Eclipse Phase phrasing here) can be transplanted onto a wide range of body shapes or body types.

It is true that the best breasts are the ones on the woman you love and loves you, but in this situation the woman you love can have any form you want.
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>>51056562
>Posting on /pfg
>Marriage material
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>>51056597
Why do you think I will never be married?

Neither will you, now!
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>>51056589
>any form you want

perfect
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>>51056464
Hey, at least there's the trap
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>>51056481
I was actually looking for dark-ish skin on Musu, I think Nemone just barely counts as dark, but she showed up in my searches and I couldn't pass up her expression.
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>>51056611
I stay away from fleshy desires. I mean, I don't really have a choice in the matter.
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>>51056586
>booty
>fat
Anorexics pls go and stay go
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>>51056589
>It is true that the best breasts are the ones on the woman you love and loves you, but in this situation the woman you love can have any form you want
Then the answer is simple: Have a harem. Variety is the spice of life my friend
or marry a shapeshifter who enjoys mixing it up with different forms
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>>51056442
As ashamed as I am to admit it, I don't have any Nemone saved on this phone. I'll find you one of my favorites though.
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>>51055358
>>51055835

Fun Fact: Aldori Swordlords are prohibited from training others on their techniques unless the student accepts the Aldori Swordpact, one of the requirements being they change their last name to "Aldori."
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>>51056299
Yup. It's pretty ridiculous.
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>>51056661

>Variety is the spice of life

Too much spice will give you indigestion!

>Or marry a shapeshifter

What, like Arueshalae?
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>>51056624
But what if I just want a girl with small breasts, doesn't have a large ass and doesn't have a dick? Is that so wrong?

Honestly, I'd almost settle for pic related.
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Heaven or Hell? Lets rock!
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>>51056698
>Too much spice will give you indigestion!
I have no darn idea what type of spices you use.
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>>51056701

Pic related is personally my ideal.
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>>51056680
Cool, you don't gotta, but I'll look forward to seeing it if you do post it.
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>>51056729
This is my personal ideal.
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>>51056698
>too much spice will give you indigestion

what kind of weak fag are you

>>51056701
>that garbage on the right

now you're just being ridiculous on purpose.
girl on the left is k tho
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>>51056682
That actually sounds kind of like a Euro-version of the Sikhs and their caste-rejecting last name thing.

Tell me more?
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>>51056745

B-But I'm nobody special, there's plenty of better girls out there!
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>>51056745
>>51056729
Drown in your ideals and die.
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>>51056698
>Too much spice will give you indigestion!
britbong detected, ya'll weak bitches can't handle spices
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>>51056745
Is this like the guy who got turned on by tile patterns?
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>>51056700
Apparently it is of Fluffy2
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>>51056783
You seem upset, my picture applies to you too, love.
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>>51056783
>says the servant who ended up doing it anyway
Achaa is a loser!
LOSER!
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>>51056701
> only two of the three Bs

Bellies need love too!
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>>51056762
>Tell me more?

Taking the Swordpact elevates you to minor nobility, and grants you access to the resources of other Swordpact members. The exact details of the Swordpact are unclear, but what is known is it expects the Swordlord to uphold the laws of Restov and protect the former kingdom of Rostland.
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>>51056794
I'm think they were doing the Time's person of the year thing by showing a mirror.
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>>51056832
No they don't.
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>>51056440
>It just doesn't sit well with me to write a character and throw them into a campaign without *something* to offer the DM. A PC that doesn't have goals or ambitions is going to be a very boring PC.
I'm having this problem in a campaign I'm playing in right now. My Oradin's all about helping folk, but he doesn't really seem to have any big goals or aspirations beyond "Heal and help others".
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>>51056849
Are you sure they don't just have a mirror fetish?
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I have just confirmed what you all already knew: vital strike is really shit.

Like... I have two spreadsheets and four different builds and I can't make it not just worse than spending feats on weapon specialization.

I'm not even going to post all of this fancy math and shit. There isn't any point to it. It's just bad.
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>>51056864
No, they might. This is /pfg/ after all.
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>>51056700

Anon, there's nothing wrong with wanting a girl like that.

You're still going to have to fight evil to win her heart, though.
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>>51056797
>not being a fatefag
>when there are f o u r adaptations in [new current year]
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>>51056832

my brother!
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>>51056884
The "impress grill with deeds/battle" is a really unhealthy trope.
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>>51056861

You really, really need to figure out a goal for him, and fast.

I've played from level 1-15 with a character that had zero goals or ambitions, and when the campaign was over I straight up forgot his name. That's how little I got out of playing him.
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>>51056876

Thank you for the confirmation. We'll continue with our regularly scheduled duties now.
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>>51056876
You feel like going back and doing the same shit, but for the Mercurial Duelist that Jolly made? I don't think we have the book the archetype is actually in (Asian Archetypes from Legendary Games, iirc) but I /do/ have a playtest version sitting here that I could pastebin for you. You'd have to go through the stuff from Legendary Vigilantes and Legendary Villains: Vigilantes, though.
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>>51055693
Bump, yet again.
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>>51056880
This is 4chan, the place where some anons had fetishes for floor tile and the state of Ohio.
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>>51056919
Have you seen Ohio?
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>>51056899
dats a mom tum if i ever seen one.
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>>51056905
Well he's not completely hollow. He's got a personality and such that I play out at the table, so he's got something going for him at least.

At least he's not my natural attack Bloodrager who was basically just a big ugly mutant that hit stuff. Now that was a character who had no character to him...
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/pfg/! /pfg/!

I've got something to ask you beautiful people, and since the thread is circling the drain I think now's the perfect time to ask it!

People have come to us all the time asking for advice on how to tighten or expand their backstories for RotJR, but are there any characters you think could be enriched by adding something to the backstory or personality? Basically, if that character came to this thread asking for advice, what would you give them?
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>>51056906
No problem. Sorry for interrupting your... whatever it is that you are doing here. I'll leave you to it.

>>51056914
I mainly stick to buildposting and mathposting for pazio's stuff. Thanks though.
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>>51056949
Make sure to buy a shaving kit, otherwise they're cheating.
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>>51056914
Mercurial Duelist stands on its own, unless you're talking about the vital strike stuff and such, like vital stride and such.
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>>51056975
Post shark teeth pictures.
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How does metamagic work if you're lower level? Let's say I'm a Sorcerer and I have 20 Charisma at level 2. I've got two bonus first level spell slots and +1 spell slots for every level after that up to five.
Does that mean I can use Metamagic like Dazing Spell to use my fourth level spell slot on a blast?

So, if I cast Magic Missile, a level 1 spell, can I apply Dazing metamagic to it, or do I have to actually know spells at that level before using Metamagic?
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>>51056904

Well, yeah. If you miss your timing, you'll get your head lopped off with an orc's falchion-very bad for your health.
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I'm really sorry.

>>51056996
>>51056996
>>51056996
>>51056996
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>>51056991
You can't cast a spell using a spell slot you don't have.
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With Gestalt, do we only get one FCB, or one for each side of the gestalt?
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>>51057007
So how do we report again?
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>>51057007
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>>51057007
Report and ignore.
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>>51057007
Clearly you aren't since you still fucking made this garbage. I hope you have to watch your children all be lowered into the grave.
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>>51057023

Click the arrow next to the number.
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>>51057024
times i've seen you use this image: ∞
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>>51057023
You click on the arrow on the arrow next to the post number, and select the Report option.
It will then open up a new window, then you just do a captcha like a normal post and submit the report

There, now you have the illusion of power
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>>51056991
>I've got two bonus first level spell slots and +1 spell slots for every level after that up to five.
No you don't. You don't get bonus spells for spell levels you're not able to cast.
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>>51057007

at least its not an animu kitsune.
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>>51057093
It's worse. Like so much worse. The proportions are even more whack than titsune.
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>>51056950
I was mostly curious because the archetype is literally just "Vital Strike +1", and as much as I love it, I'm afraid that it really won't hold up even after accounting for everything it gets.

I did the math one time, and even at level 20 the most damage it could do was 300~, though it would have riders and possibly an instakill effect

>>51056975
It's definitely miles ahead of regular vital strike, but trying to build one at various levels has still made me worried about its effectiveness. Though all those riders you can attach, as well as the ability to almost NEVER miss at level 10, means I'm probably just paranoid. Were there any talents introduced that weren't in the playtest I might be missing out on?

Still sad about no AoE slash, but there's always the next book.
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>>51057113
i think its a parody
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Don't worry guys, once the shit general dies and we hit a reasonable page number, I'll make a not shit one
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>>51057121
Tip: level 20 math is pointless. I think that the game really ends at level 12. After that things just don't work. Plus simulation exists.
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>>51057187
*sumulacrum
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>>51057187
of course level 20 math is pointless, level 20 meaning anything isn't why it felt worth mentioning, it was just a quick way to say "that shit looks whack" because the numbers weren't massively inflated like other martials

>I think the game really ends at level 12
>so many non-fullcasters don't even get cool things until 12
>sometimes they don't even get it until much later

well that's just some bullshit, but I can believe it after seeing all those horror stories
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Regarding vital strike: what if a "full attack" was a standard action, and could be done on a charge? How would this change the game between levels 6 and 12?
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>>51057273
... Which classes are you referring to?
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>>51057289
See: Any animal with pounce within that level range
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>>51057167
So?
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>>51057273
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>>51056924
Yes?

>mfw live in Dayton
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>>51057444
>Dayton
Don't you mean right-cheek?
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>>51057444

I live in Cincinnati!
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>>51056642
Just because one isn't into skeletons doesn't mean one must automatically think the morbidly-gravitic are anything but disgusting fatties.
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Hey PFG I have a question one of my players asked for last week:

So I've got a guy, max ranks in Craft Arms and Armor and all that stuff. A blacksmith who makes his own gear.

He recently met his grandfather, a true Dwarf smith who can teach him the secrets of real Dwarf crafting.

Now the player wants to take the Master Armorer thing in the Fighter training, something out of the Armormaster's Handbook I think. Basically, this will give him the ranks in the skills he already has, but for free. Essentially doubling up on his investment. But since you can't do that, he's asked to transfer those skill points somewhere else. Is this fair? Should I tax this in some way, either requiring in-game training time, or taking a cut somehow? Or should he just be able to re-assign skills he already spent for free?

Sub-question: Are there any good suggestions for adding "Dwarven master craftsmenship" to what is already essentially the best stuff you can make via Craft Arms & Armor?
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>>51057921
Martials are already very limited in what they have comparatively, i see no reason to punish him for something that should be fun and awesome - just let him reassign the skills he already has for free, or if you really feel the need to push him on this, make the character set aside a week or so for training - it'll give the other party members downtime which they can use for other things as well.

As for adding in something that could be called "Dwarven Master Craftsmanship" I recommend taking a look at the nonmagical weapon enhancments in Steelforge's Playtest:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?430138-Dreamscarred-Press-Announces-Steelforge-Playtest
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>>51057921
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/more-character-options/retraining#TOC-Skill-Ranks
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>>51057007
god DAMN it
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We're going to have an actual general created soon right?

...Right?
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>>51058375
Just let it die
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