Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Are you a bad enough dude to turn into a dinosaur?

>>51057047

Yes i am good sir

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid-archetypes/goliath-druid

What sorts of monsters have you always wanted to use, but never get the chance?

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>>51057225

I don't think i've ever used a proper giant in any of my games.

I have used a Titan before but i dont think that counts.

>>51057047
Actually, I've always wanted to play a Weredinosaur.

>>51057225
bureacracy and capitalism

>>51057255

metaphorically or litterally?

I think i have stats for a Treasure golem.

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>>51057253
Diego pls

>>51057255
But Bureacracy is antithetical of Free Market Capitalism, and usually indicates overbearing federal involvement in a market, and a bloated central government.
How can you fight against both when fighting against one will lead to the other?

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Might as well post a good portion of the /pfg/ Games here.


https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65435/rise-of-the-jade-regent


https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65876/misadventures-of-a-lazy-princess


Join in on the fun!

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>>51056270
>But what about Val's alter-ego, the Vilderavn?
That's really going to depend on how close to the vest Val's player wants to play the vigilante angle. If she reveals that part of her life to Cas he could even make her costume for her.

>>51056682
I imagine it would be less along the lines of Cas teaching Val the ways of the swordlord and more along the lines of teammates sparring (since each character has their own distinct fighting styles)

>>51057320

I feel a tad jealous because amalthea and Casimir was aces and i cant play her.

>>51057350
I'm sure you'll be fine running Onryou. But all of this is just pointless memery anyways. AFAIK neither Cas or Val's players have been involved in this discussion. I just wanted to see if my idea had legs in the eyes of /pfg/ and it appears that it does.

>>51057318
Lazy Princess seems interesting.

Majordomo Investigator seems perfect for it as a super action bureaucrat.

>>51057494
>just reread majordomo
>remember it's awful
Man. Why does it have to give up alchemy for teamwork feat sharing? Why couldn't it have just gotten different spellcasting.

>>51057494
You'll want a mix of social and combat stuff.

Sometimes she'll have you doing political assassinations, or placating a village, or calming a troublesome tribe, or other times fighting a dragon.

>>51057592
Which normal Investigator does better than Majordomo. Majordomo doesn't really get enough to justify getting rid of alchemy.

Building a blaster here, is it generally better to specialize in AoE or single target?

I worry about AoE when its boss fight time and all the other PCs is now surrounding the boss

>>51057047
Been there, done that, anon. That was my character's schtick back in 3.5, it's gonna be a while before I need to be a t-rex again.

>>51057998
Selective Metamagic Rod. Problem solved.

>>51058056
Well, I am starting at level 1 though, so thats a problem

>>51057998
I find it generally better to go with AoE, but have a few backup single-target spells available.

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So! Who all's looking forward to the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?

>>51058122
Hoping to steer the party into joining a caravan so they have a sort of mobile base to work out of.

>>51058122
AGDQ starts this weekend, so that's taking priority over my free time.

>>51058122
TWO GAMES, BACK TO BACK

IT'S FLURRY TIME

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What's the MOST TRAGIC backstory you've ever come up with for your characters?

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>>51058122

Sometimes I wonder as to your identity, Fennec anon.

Did you apply for Rise of the Jade Regent?

>>51057225
I've always wanted to play as a Troll.

>>51058324
But anon, you can! Just post /pfg/ OPs!

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>>51057350

Onryou is a precious cinnamon bun! Besides, competing for a man is hard work and extremely hot, but I doubt Val and Amalthea would've been in the same party!

This might sound vague, or dumb, but for someone who has next-to-no experience with pathfinder, what kind of knowledge would you consider essential to play?

>>51058122
All the games that were on pause are starting up again.

Today: Werewolf the Apocalypse set in Australia (my character an aboriginal Mokole)
Saturday: A mage the ascension 20th anniversary game (my character a Verbena shapeshifter-serial killer)
Sunday: Irl group playing through Wrat of the Righteous (my character Wizard 13/Archmage 5th tier)

So Gulch Gunners are all about getting grit through provoking AoO and being all up in the enemy's face. What're some good ways to beef up my AC for when those AoOs happen?

>>51058393
Essential knowledge:

Never visit /pfg/ for anything. Ever.

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>tfw no campaign focusing on an interplanetary invasion by dimension-hopping imperialist space Elves from Sovyrian.

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>>51058412
Sound advice, my friend.

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>>51058321

I didn't, no. Best wishes to those who have, but I don't think I'd be a good fit for that game.

>>51058393
So here is my biggest piece of advice. There is no shame in using guides to help yourself out. It's much better to scrape by in competency via a guide than not be competent enough to effect the game.

>>51058393

>>51058530 has some good advice. You can find some great guides at http://zenithgames.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-comprehensive-pathfinder-guides.html. If you're really stuck on a particular subject, you can always try asking around here, and there's a chance we might be able to answer it for you.

>>51058393
I kind of have the same sort of question, but in my mind, it depends on what you plan on running. Adventure paths, for example you should probably read up on the continent/country/town they're set in. Completely made up adventures require A more solid knowledge of random rules for situational things or a hard set houserule setup for what the dm decides for situations. Knowledge of combat is never a negative, just to make things go that much faster, either. But like>>51058412 said,
>Going to /PFG/ for important info
>ever
Not the best idea

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>>51058530
Yeah, no shame in using guides at all. I've written quite a few myself.

Should a DM make regional traits in a homebrew setting?

>>51058608
Either that or adapt some of the preexisting regional traits.

>roll20 adds macro for images on everything
>think of all the cool shit that can be used for maneuvers

Send help lads post gifs of what you think could be a maneuver
>tfw can't find a teleporting gif for eternal guardian

>>51058614
Wow that was a fast reply, thanks.

>>51058608

Absolutely! Everyone loves regional traits, tell us about the homebrew kingdoms and we could help you come up with them!

>>51058122
The adventures of Simon Eshman continue!

Last time, shit hit the fan when the gang ran into a cultist of an undead god of decay. After Simon expertly smited his shit, the cultist blew up in a blast of necrotic energy and killed the Gnome rogue who had aspirations of being a confectioner. The Gnome's corpse then incorporated itself with the cultist's, who proceeded to get away.

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>>51056996
So this is really the OP image huh.

New low /pfg/, and I didn't think that was possible.

>>51058641
Not that guy, but mind if I post a homebrew kingdom I've posted on here before? To get the ball rolling.

>>51058617
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Animations_images

>>51058393
Don't ask /pfg/ for or about anything that doesn't have to do with pathetic "lewd" nonsense or PoW.
Don't parrot /pfg/'s mongoloid opinions.
Don't even browse /pfg/ because there is nothing worth discussing here.
Go to your friends/GM for help on how to play this game.

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>>51058522

I hope you're happy in whatever games you're in, and to all the future games you join!

Who do you like out of the RotJR characters? Give us the Fennec-approved cast!

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>>51058530
>>51058567
>>51058584
>>51058581
Thanks.

>>51058617

>>51058675
>Go to your friends/GM for help on how to play this game.
My friends think kineticist is OP.

>>51058312
The one I haven't played yet. Exiled from Rahadoum because he did something stupid over a tween crush and didn't take all possible variables into account.

Oh gods I haven't even fully built him yet.

>>51058670
>but mind if I post a homebrew kingdom I've posted on here before?

Give it here!

>>51058641
The one I want to design traits for first is called the Iron Dominion (so if any of you have looked at the larger setting document for Lazy Princess, you've seen it) and it's themed around being a country run by inventors that want to improve the entire world with technology that works alongside magic. It is made up of these groups of inventors called Circles, and each circle sends a representative to what is basically the Senate.

The nation made the airships that the entire world uses and has also made trains that use magic and magnetism to float.

The nation was founded by Dwarves, but people of all races are allowed to move in through a long process and are labeled as Immigrant (this isn't a negative label, it just helps with the census). Immigrants are allowed to become inventors as well, and some Circles have more Immigrants than Dwarves.

Most characters that come from this nation would either use firearms or Psionics (the Dwarves have figured out how to unleash the natural talents of many people after the Immigrants started moving in).

>>51058393
>but for someone who has next-to-no experience with pathfinder, what kind of knowledge would you consider essential to play?
Know that the game is busted and borked right out of the gate. Find peace with that fact, and try to find fun in spite of it

>>51058701
>Country Name:
Capre
>Nickname:
Land of a Thousand Lakes
>Government:
Constitutional Monarchy split into three sections. Thirty years ago the bright and glorious cultural revolution raged and changed the country, forcing the Archduke of Capre to sign several papers. The first was the paper of intent for succession from the larger Deneheian empire. The second was the constitution establish the rights of the people and a two house parliament system. Immediately afterwards they removed his arms so that no noble may "Raise their hands against the people". This has been done to his son as well when he took his position as Archduke. The parliament is separated into the House of Masters and the House of Commons. The house of Commons is made up of any individual with sufficient property value that wishes to speak, and where legislature is introduced. It is a roil of opinions as people come and go on their whims. One not even need be a citizen to speak in the house of commons. The House of Masters is chosen by vote of those qualified to speak in the House of Commons. They vote on legislature introduced.
>Landscape:
Wet and humid, numerous marshes and marshlands cut through the country of a thousand lakes, forcing the people to live in and around water.
>Size:
Single large metropolitan population central named Mordrin, it is a city on a lake with a canal dug to the sea and serves as the trade center of the region. Most other settlements are small, settling onto lakes to feed through the streams and rivers towards Modrin to connect to the outside world. So middling population on a whole.
>Imports/Exports:
Exports: Rice, various fish (large canning industry), duck-wheat, waterfowl, horseradish, lumber (river birch, willow), botanicals, alcohol, textiles, peat
Imports: Iron, Glass, various metal goods, jewelry, hardwoods, cattle, slaves

>>51058754
>>51058781
I'd recommend picking a different nickname, given that "Land of a Thousand Lakes" is commonly used to refer to both Minnesota and Finland.

>>51058694
Too bad.

>>51058781
>Relations:
Strained with the Deneheians due to their leaving thirty years prior they have instead found an ally in the Vilgoths on their other boarder, who have tried to coerce them into joining the larger Republic. They have played with the idea, but for now have maintained their independence.

>Ruler:
Archduke Hadrian Coore, an impotent leader used as a figure head to blame the country's woes on. After the loss of his arms at age 19, his father having passed away, he harbors a bitter hatred for the country. Indeed his life is that of a prison, guards ensuring he does not commit suicide to spite the country, and ensuring an heir is produced.

First Master Morgoth is an elderly man, now relegated to use of a cane. He is the longest standing member of the House of Masters and an important figure in the cultural revolution, having lead the Uprising at Bare Bridge to take the royal manor, despite being out numberd, and he himself being terribly injured. As a war hero he used his prestige to gain power, and now sits atop the country. He is a hard liner against joining the republic.

Master Ulsvar is a former member of the Republic now living permanently in Capre, and is a main voice in it joining the republic.

Master Yiller is the current high master of the military, and the most anti-nobility master, in his mind the Archduke's position should be done away with in its entirety.

Bellegin Moore, master of the Wick Dippers guild, an organization born during the cultural revolution. The Wick Dippers were the first to rebel and numerous artisans flocked to their sides. Now it exists as a monolithic trade entity of patchwork industries. Their control on the country is their ownership of Modrin's docks and most domestic ships. Despite this he has never sought mastership and only occasionally graced the House of Commons with his presence.

>>51058785
Some features I could name it after are:
>the giant canal
>the cultural revolution
>the fact they cut the arms off their nobles
>the absolute fuckton of peat they produce

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>>51058411
Anybody?

>>51058830
It probably used to have the name "Bridge of the Empire" as the canal was really important to Denehein. However they may have gotten rid of that name after the cultural revolution.

"Bridge of the World" may also work now that they are independent, but I think that's Panama's nickname.

>>51058312
The character is the leftover husk from a famous and beautiful hero whose mind and soul were utterly destroyed without physical harm, resulting in an adult body with a totally reset baby brain. Said body was recovered by allies but left on the street when it was found that the hero's soul no longer even inhabited it or could be returned to it.

Bad things happened to him obviously, being a developing child who looks exactly like a local legend. But I guess it's more tragic what happened to the prior hero if anything.

>>51056996
what the fuck is that.

>>51058411
>>51058898

Well, if gulch gunner is all staying close, maybe try that one archetype that lets you fight in your enemy's space? Mouser, I think it was called?

>>51058898
>Gulch Gunners
So some minor multiclassing into Alchemist would help. 2 levels of alchemist will net you quite a bit.

Minmaxing AC is relatively difficult, as getting above the "50% miss chance" threshold is expensive. You're not a caster, so you can't rely on shape changing.

What I would suggest a bit of alchemist and using reduce person.

Reduce person + Mutagen

Grab a tentacle at level 2 and just say it's a more prehensile tail, use it to help you reload.

Reduce Person + Mutagen nets you 7 AC since you're already small.

>>51058960
So Gulch Gunner 5/Alchemist 2 would serve you well.

Going into Barbarian would also help, but in a different way via Dodge Roll + Dex Rage.

Maybe grab vivisectionist to replace bombs with a little bit of sneak attack damage.

>>51057250
Is PF as atrocious with non-Medium size classes as 3.5e is? I really can't imagine playing any non-Medium humanoid in any D&D or D&D offshoot without some hardcore house-ruling, because of how shitty they tend to handle it, especially in relation to other party members.

>>51058898
>>51058960
>>51059010
Also what level are you? I can help more if I know.

>>51059051
I'd probably be coming in at level 1 or 2 but I want a better idea of how I'd build it for the future.

>>51058649
Trust us, we tried reporting him for making threads early and shit, but shitposter OP is in bed with the janitors and mods

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Glory be to Iomedae!

>>51059092
Apparently the topic can't be reported, otherwise it results in you getting warned. This is what /tg/ thinks is okay.

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>>51058680

Kind of you to say.

Honestly, there's a lot of characters that seem like they'd be fun to play with in a normal game. Can't really pick favorites.

>>51058122
My Friday campaign got canceled because my GM killed himself. Don't know what we're going to do on the weekend.

What's the closest thing in Golarian to incestuous american trailer trash?
I'm making a character, and I'm wondering where the most degenerate place she could be from is.

>>51059078
As a level 2 Alchemist 1/Gunslinger 1 you'll have:

>24 dex when mutagen'd/reduce person'd
>mithral shirt (can barely afford)
>size bonus
>natural armor

24 AC

>gunslinger dodge

26AC as an immediate action.

>>51059187
I'm sorry man. A friend's suicide is an awful point to be at in life.

I feel like doing it whenever my players no-show my games Tbh. GMing is hard sometimes.

>>51059258
>I'm making a character, and I'm wondering where the most degenerate place she could be from is.

Where's the campaign taking place?

>>51059258
>What's the closest thing in Golarian to incestuous american trailer trash?
The Nirmathi

Is Dragonrider the 3rd party class the only class that allows you to ride a dragon from L1?

>>51059258
Probably the River Kingdoms.

>>51059258
That could be a goblin hut found literally anywhere in the continent. If you were scaling down the worldwound, you'd pass by a squat goblin village on the way down who are strictly there for being CR-appropriate to low level adventurers.

>>51059258
Ogres are literal incest hillbillies. With a side of cannibalism. So anywhere around ogres.

What character are you gonna make for DHB's viva la revolución game?

>>51058530
Fucking this.
There is nothing worse than a player literally bawling instead of taking their turn because they not only had no interest in making their character any good but actively bitched people out for suggesting things *when they complain*

>>51059340
Tyrant Antipaladin.

>>51058530
Think about what you'll do on your turn before your turn comes up.

>>51059112
nothing like smiting people

>>51059258
>>51059315
This guy with the ogres has the right of it. check out the Ogrekin template.

>>51059340
>DHB
>make SJW "CG rebels lol" game
should have fucking known that piece of shit was in bed with Paizo

>>51059340

He's making a what?

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>>51059397
There's nothing wrong with seizing the means of production from bourgeoisie scum and delivering it to the people.

>>51059426
But communism is lawful good anon

>>51059426
They spelt fascists wrong in the top right corner.

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>>51059397
>DHB
>Responsible for decently balanced Unchained Martials and desires to nerf wizards
>Paizo
shoo shoo witch hunter!

>>51059397
He's said you're half Bolsheviks and half Assemblée Nationale.

The setting has a literal tree of revolution they hang nobles from and slit their necks to water the tree.

>>51059459

Maybe they want to bash the fashionable elite?

>>51059416
Basic Info:
>>51026936

City it's in:
>>51027674
>>51027554

List of Races:
>>51030642
>>51042235

>>51059490
>>Responsible for decently balanced Unchained Martials and desires to nerf wizards
Are his UC martials any good? I've never heard anyone talk about playing them.

>>51059299
No. N. Jolly made a Vigilante archetype that can do so too, although you'd be riding a drake. Dragon Rider is the only one that's literally a dragon riding class.

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>>51059594
That archetype is slowly being gutted for more general drake options, although I'm also writing up a way for every class to get a drake companion too, since archetype locking it didn't make me the happiest puppy in the pound.

>>51056996
man her head is way too tiny for her body

s'like a little baby head

>>51059299
DHB's UC Cavalier has a wyvern rider.

>>51059624

Baby heads are freakishly big for their bodies though!

>>51059258
Ogres, they're literally cannibal hillbillies with Appalachian accents.

Does anyone know who has control of the pastebin?

Unfortunately the links there link to old versions of the Broken Shackles Martials, and not the consolidated version. They are out of date on a lot of content.

It for instance does not include the Wyvern Rider >>51059630 is talking about. That can be found here:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUevSnzc65Xw2cx3ah7iL7s1BBx0bVeF8xKlL0uFIcQ/edit?usp=sharing

Though Wyvern Rider may not be what people really want, as it is a weird prepared charisma caster in addition to riding a Wyvern.

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>>51059703
Prepared charisma caster?
You need to re-evaluate your life.

>>51059112
>Atheists and deniers

This passage forgets that you live in a world where mortals can MAKE miracles. What's the meaning of a god if a Wizard can do the same thing?

>>51059724
Don't forget there's no way to verify if the gods are actually gods or just sufficiently powerful outsiders. Even mortals can grant 9th level spells with enough mythic levels.

>>51059713
The reasoning behind it is the charisma constitutes the both verbal and non-verbal negotiations with his wyvern for spells. It's about asserting force of personality over the wyvern, and thus the give and take in my mind better represented with a spell prep time and prepared slots.

>>51059724
its supposed to be wrong. its an in-universe Iomedae-Tract

>>51059756
Prepared casting should die in a fire.

>>51059761

Writing in-universe is half the fun of roleplaying!

who else wants to make princess yun-la not a lazy child but a worthy empress?

>>51059765
I am unsure how to respond. I personally do not mind prepared casting. Though it takes more system mastery and forethought than spontaneous casting.

For reference the Wyvern Rider is a 4 level caster, so similar to a Paladin or Ranger.

>>51059849
I'm not prepared for the amount of spanking it would take, fuck that

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>>51059852
>I personally do not mind prepared casting.
Shit taste confirmed.

>>51059849
I'm tempted but honestly I don't want to deal with any games that /pfg/ is watching and trolling.

>>51059860
>spanking the future empress
that's how you get executed friendo

>>51059864
I am curious why you do not like it. What is inherently wrong with prepared casting.

What are the highest CR dinosaurs in Pathfinder?
>>51057047

>>51059883
It's not fun, and I'm like the objectively correct authority on fun. Seriously, though, I feel it's way overdone, and I miss all the other options that are from 3.5 and 3pp.

If a Bladebound Magus dies... can someone else be bound to their Black Blade?

>>51059883
The prepared casting system, which has within it the ability of prep-casting and spontanious prep as found in wizards and clerics, is fundamentally broken and one of the reasons why full prepared casters are both OP, but also have a steep and annoying learning curve to make them good do to the system being hard on people who don't know how to properly prepare

>>51059924
And also just a pain in the ass to prepare.

>>51059924
It has barely any learning curve, people are just lazy

>>51059887
In 1st place is the Diplodocus at CR 12:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/dinosaur-diplodocus

The Brontosaurus and Spinosaurus share 2nd at CR 11:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/brontosaurus
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/dinosaur-spinosaurus

In 3rd is the Therizinosaurus at CR 10:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/dinosaur-therizinosaurus

>>51059924
I agree that 9th level prepared casting is extremely strong, and for the very reasons you say. However the Wyvern Rider is a 4th level prepared caster, in the same realm as the Paladin and Ranger.

As for the learning curve I have experienced it myself where people simply can not handle prepared casting. I however believe that instead of getting rid of prepared casting the folks who can't handle it should simply not play prepared casters.

Alchemists, Investigators, Magus, Ranger, and Paladin are all prepared casters that do not destroy a game's narrative consistency.

>>51059995
>Don't like it? Don't play competent classes

>>51060006
>aren't smart enough to figure out this basic mechanic? Don't use it

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>everyone gets a single free rank in one Craft, Profession, Perform, or Appraise check of choiceupon character creation?
Reasonable homerule, or no?

>>51060024
>Let's make the only competent classes ones that use this shitty mechanic.

>>51059958
damn, that's not nearly strong enough

>>51059742
>>51059724
These views were the reason that 2e planescape's Athar and Godsmen were actually friendly allies.

One basically states that deities, while immensely powerful, are neither all-powerful nor all-knowing, and so do not deserve to eat your psychic energy from worshiping them.

The other states that you too can become that powerful with some luck, some effort, and doing like those gods do too.

relatively speaking, the only argument is as to whether the gods really are gods; but both are willing to let go of such a minor terminological squabble when save for the exact term they both agree that it's neither unattainable nor impossible.

>>51060028
Why not just use background skills?

>>51060028
Balanced? yes
Logical? yes
Worth bloating a houserule list with? no.

>>51060006
There are spontaneous casters on par with the tier 3 prepared casters. Skald, Bard, and Inquisitor. For tier 4 casters the Bloodrager sits on the same level as Paladin and Ranger.

The problem with competency comes with 9th level prepared casting, which I agree is generally too strong.

Heck, the tier 2 classes (summoner, sorcerer, and oracle) are all spontaneous and better than the tier 3 prepared casters.

The problem does not rear its head until you are in 9th level prepared casting, which has too many flexible spell slots and too much access to a powerful spell list.

>>51060045
because people use those to take actual good skills

>>51060045
were those in Unchained? I'm unfamiliar since I've stopped buying PF books

>>51060069
>buying pf books

few people here buy paizo's stuff. it's all in the trove, or we use the pfsrd

>>51060028
Background Skills do something similar. Perhaps looking into that would do you well.

>>51060069
>were those in Unchained?
Yes
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/background-skills

>>51059270
That's pretty nice. So I know by default Gunslingers are WIS-focused and Alchemists are INT-focused, but if I'm only going two levels in the latter would I really care too much about INT?

>>51060038
>all mechanics I can't understand because I'm so dumb are shitty mechanics

>>51060110
Not if you're just dipping for mutagen.

>>51060126
I understand them just fine. They aren't fun.

>>51060141
Had a feeling.

>>51060110
You generally won't care about the int scaling alchemist features (as you won't be taking many levels). 14 int will be enough. Gunslinger as well isn't very Wis heavy.

If you're on 25 PB this will work:

>Str: 8
>Dex: 18 (24)
>Con: 14
>Int: 16
>Wis: 14 (12)
>Cha: 10

Mutagen/Reduce Person are in the ().

>>51060171
I am confused however. They are highly competent spontaneous casters (all of tier 2) and Prepared/Spontaneous casters who share a tier (tier 3 and 4 show this).

Just because you do not find it fun does not mean others do not. It seems a rather extreme opinion you have of it. One that leads me to believe someone playing a tier 1 prepared caster has ruined a game you've played in at some point.

>>51059917
Mechanically? I have no idea, I guess it goes with the if a druid dies, can another character have it's animal companion as their animal companion.

I would say yes, as long as they have levels in a class archetype that gives the Black Blade, otherwise I would say the Blade refuses to be wielded by the unworthy. Like Mjolnir or something.

>stare at PsyWar page
>don't want to involve PoW, can't come up with anything more interesting except making a pseudo-monk via meditant

What are Psychic Warriors supposed to do again, other than buff themselves and hit things? Other than Warrior Path, they don't seem to get any interesting class features until mid-levels, and the paths themselves just... aren't that exciting? Martial Power looks like it should make the class something of a pseudo-magus, except none of the path powers actually support that kind of play, so in practice it only lets you buff yourself while fighting.

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Update on the onslaught sniper: The cap is removed.

Update on the onslaught sniper: Rapid Shot and/or haste no longer grant additional blasts.

>>51060200
What part of "I'm like the objectively correct authority on fun" don't you understand.

I just hate that paizo seems to love printing more prepared classes than anything else. CHA druid? Let's actual make them worse spontaneous casters than normal. Spontaneous magus? Hope you enjoy being fucked worse than usual. All the interesting archetypes? Fucking prepared casters.

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>>51060235
Update on onslaught sniper: Targeted strike now imposes an AC penalty for 1 round.

These are as far as I'm concerned the final decisions on this situation, as I think this is the most fair way of going about it, although I might throw in a penalty against intimidation checks for the targeted shot since it seems thematic to be scared after someone shotguns you like that.

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>>51060264

>>51060067

I use Background Skills for funsies, like Nobility or Craft (Calligraphy!)

>>51060045
>>51060101
Well, this is exactly what I wanted, thanks anon

Hello.

I want to play a Pathfinder.

Where do I start?

>>51060297
good job
your one anecdote really changed the world, there

>>51059703
>Does anyone know who has control of the pastebin?
The people does, DHB! You make a new pastebin with the correct stuff, put the new one in the OP, and no-one notices until 3 weeks later.

>>51060381
Sell your soul.

>>51060264
Carp removed good.
Loss of haste/rapid.... hm... that doesn't drop damage much at highest levels but it does hit between 3rd and extreme blaster a bit. That's probably a good thing balancewise at 3rd, maybe a bit less by 10th.

the name on targeted strike feels kind of off now though. I mean, it's not so much targeted as targeting you know?

maybe ranging volley or something?

I'd awoo but this replacement laptop has no images on it yet...

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>>51060414
Here's an awoo.

>>51060389

Oh gosh, that little old thing?

What do you use Background Skills for, anon? Tell me! Tell me!

>>51060381
Report to the nearest hospital and tell them you suspect that you have brain damage.

>>51060414
>Carp Removed
This ain't Dwarf Fortress, boy.

>>51060439
Awoo a cute. CUTE!

>>51060461

Who are the top woofs for Molthune Knights?

>>51060028
Seems reasonable to me, although I'd still say that having Background Skills in-effect is handy so that everyone can have a talent as well as some of the lesser-taken abilities like Knowledge skills or Sleight of Hand.

>>51060381

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/

>>51060171
I enjoy the preparedness mechanics, it's an aspect of tabletop while spontaneous is closer to cooldowns

>>51060442
I use them in bard's versatile performance so I can maximise other skills at the same time as maximising things that I need to take to make a useable character!

>>51060381
Find a group of people who you trust.
Go to http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ and pick something that looks cool.
Have fun!

>>51060506
I think it pushes characters to be as uninteresting as possible. You have limited slots, and you have limited castings, so to make most out of your spells you have to choose ones that apply in a large amount of situations. Characters will end up choosing roughly the same spells. Very rarely will you get things like fire mages, or other specialized types, but it's inefficient. And I feel vancian casting helps push us there, prepared in particular.

Looking at the Teisatsu Vigilante it seems like my options as a vigilante suddenly balloon.

Out of the UC Monk powers these are the ones I have identified as useful:
>Abundant Step
>Freedom of Movement
>Insightful Wisdom
>Ki Metabolism
>Ki Visions
>Sudden Speed
>Qinggong Power

On the side of Ninja Tricks I am seeing:
>Darkvision
>Ventriloquism
>Vanishing Trick
>Sudden Disguise

The idea is, since this is for "Lazy Princess" and because this is asian theme'd some use of an assassin would be not only warranted but prudent for the princess.

However there is only so much space for a build to work. If Legendary Vigilantes are in play it becomes easier, as feats allow me to grab extra vigilante talents. As well as Exposed Vigilante allows me to grab an extra social.

However a problem I am seeing is the Teisatsu does not get improved unarmed natively either. What options are their for an unarmed vigilante besides Fist of the Avenger?

>>51060558
This is less true for a prepared caster than a spontaneous. A spontaneous caster has a much higher opportunity cost as they can not easily gain new spells and have a limited list they can cast from. Thus their choices are more restricted because they need to make their few spells count.

A prepared caster can change each day.

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>>51056996
There are all kinds of gross fetishes in this general, but come on. Get a real fetish.

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>>51060414
As a whole, I think the potential for it was a little too high, although I might bring the ability to get some extra attacks through that as a feat later, since right now there's still room.

The name for that and the archetype as a whole is still up in the air, although this book might have two sample characters.

Let me get opinions here; would you rather have a carapacian predator or onslaught sniper as your iconic sample character for this book?

>>51060581
Well it's also my issue for spontaneous, but it does apply to prepared. You have less spells (usually) and you definitely have less castings of each type (though with proper divinations, meta-knowledge and the like that isn't really a disadvantage.) I mean, at least prepared does have access to a lot more spells than spontaneous, but if they want to be useful for more of the day they still have to choose the same few spells that are useful in a wide variety of situations.

>>51060636
Generally I would say this is incorrect. Because as a caster you always keep slots open for specific situational spells that you learn you are gonna need throughout the day. Only an incompetent player doesn't do that.

>>51060663
>Okay boys, 15 minutes for me to be useful.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't find that fun.

>>51060693
>15 minutes
>not taking fast prep so you can prep anything in a minute

taking a minute to pick any spell from your spellbook isn't hard

>>51060693
1 minute with Fast Study.

And 15 minutes in game != 15 minutes out of game.

>>51060381
As in, a member of the in-universe Society?

Well first you have to be Chaotic Neutral.

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>>51057318
>yfw original fluffy tailed GM hasn't submitted an app and may get cucked out of his own game

W-what's this sort of feeling?

>>51060763

I wish people would stop bullying him.

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>>51057250
How would you handle a giant as a PC traveling with a group of "normal" pcs? I mean from a points perspective is one thing but what a role playing perspective?

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>>51060821
I wish people would stop bullying everyone. And murder and rape and stuff. I wish people would stop that too.

>>51060849
You need to start a Ryuutama general.

>>51060885
Fluffy trails when?

>>51060459
I'm sorry. My carp stood up.

>>51060589

DELETE THIS

Where are good places to look for stuff not in the trove? Trying to look at some Akashic books~

>>51060901
They've got a balm for that now.

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>>51060906
Ruby loves dismembering, Anon. Didn't you see how she smiled when she severed a faunus' tail?

While we're on the topic, what's your favorite rules for dismemberment in Pathfinder? Are the called shot and massive damage rules enough?

>>51060911
PAY MONEY

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>>51060849

>>51060821
I'm just saying, if he doesn't step up, it might be bad! And he wrote such a lovely opening scrawl, too!

>>51060962

Nobody likes getting beaten up or roughly handled! Especially by lovers!

>>51061011
>be gone for a long time
>see thread in this condition
Jesus H Christ lads what in the hell happened?

>>51061034

How long were you gone?

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>>51061029
my little Anon can't possibly be this vanilla

>>51060563
Anyone have thoughts on this?

How does one become the best assassin as a vigilante?

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>>51060607
You're asking someone with significant bias here, but aren't there very few dedicated ranged blasting/damage iconics in the first place?

That paizo dwarf sure ain't anything damage. Heavy Crossbow 1/rd, no vital strike... Impressive.

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>>51060849
Even if people stopped, nature would be more than happy to fill the quota.

There is no escape. Why fight it?

>>51061089
... by... killing people?
for money?

>>51061067

Punching people isn't hot, it's violence. It hurts, and you shouldn't be hurting your lover like they're some back alley hussy!

>>51061114
>Punching people isn't hot, it's violence.
No-one said anything about punching people! We're just going to tease you artfully and manhandle you roughly and tie you up and tickle you until you squeal and tell us where the secret rebel base is!

>>51061098
>Even if people stopped, nature would be more than happy to fill the quota.
>There is no escape. Why fight it?
Overall average happiness.

Of course, this leads to bizzare statements like old people needing to die since they're not happy in their old age, but that just suggests we should find ways of making old people happier and improving quality of life for all, alongside improving length of life!

>>51061111
I mean how do I become good at it.

>>51061166
I like you now.

>>51061090
In fairness I doubt there's any swarm controller iconics either.

Artwise wouldn't they make for a perfect stalemate scene though? beamspams vs swarms, the one who loses is the landscape around them.

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>>51061029
>>51061114
Speak for yourself! I want my lover to eviscerate me and hold my intestines out to divine the future!

>>51061210
Troll augury is super neat, by the way.

>>51061210

Well, I guess it's a convenient way of going about it if you can regenerate.

>>51061210
Go back to Kaer Maga, you weirdo. You're probably a blood fetishist bloat mage too.

>>51061210
>>51061241
Wait is Troll Augury actually a special thing?

>>51061268
Maybe not special, but removing the intestines to divine the future is a type of augury. Trolls regenerate so they can do it on themselves.

>>51061210
Well that's all well and good for you, but you do know that most of us can't regenerate like that, right?

>>51061268
Yes, troll oracles witches and whatnot predict the future by gutting themselves, reading their poop tracts and saying if it's bad shit or good shit in your future. Although if me brains be working properly it happens mostly in Kaer Maga. No different from other auguries, just a cool idea.

>>51060843

The only big issue, is regarding dungeons and indoors, depending on the kind of giant. If it's "just" a large size category giant, at most it would have issues regarding tight corridors with low ceilings, but still able to move around...although not-so-much so far swinging a sword goes.
What they become great at, is outsdoor survival and travel, as well as "party mule" of sort.
This can give a dual use to the party: the giant party member is for open-space , boss fights, and so on. When things needs to get more diplomatic, or you need to get shit done that is indoors, the rest of the party gets to shine. It's all a matter to balance well the spotlight among players.
Not easy, but potentially doable.

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>>51061241
>>51061268
>>51061250
It is the best racial feat. Humans can actually get it, for... some reason, using Racial Heritage. It helps that I'm a filthy person and get off on that.

>>51061265
I did make a bloatmage once and found it fun, but inflation isn't my thing.

>>51061268
>Wait is Troll Augury actually a special thing?
It is in the third book of the Shattered Star AP. You have to rescue a troll augur. In fact, I think that's actually a picture of him.

>>51061295
>>51061292
>>51061278
Link to the feat pls.

>>51061315
I think they might have also been in the Kaer Maga book, City of Strangers.

Which, incidentally, I love solely because it gave slang terms for folks with gnome/halfling fetishes.

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>>51061195
Uwah! Do you like me enough to tell me where the superweapon plans are?

>>51061348
>it gave slang terms for folks with gnome/halfling fetishes.
color me curious, what is it?

>>51061348

Slipslopper?

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>>51061388
I sure hope not!

>>51061409

Slip-n-slide-'er?

>>51061345
Found it actually:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/gift-of-sight

Well now as a human barbarian I'm gonna take this. All I need is Racial Heritage (troll).

>>51061388
>>51061348
Peck-wooder?

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>>51061288
Just level dip into Hunter! You'll be fine.

>>51061315
It is! Paizo canonized my fetish! Never been so happy.

>>51061345
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/gift-of-sight

Harry Potter-esque magical academy campaign yea/nay

>>51061378

Only if you walk me home gently first!

>>51061467
Magic Academy adventure by DDS?

>>51061065
Since that anti pow guy would start shit in the thread back in September or something.

>>51061384
>>51061388
>>51061451
Shorteyes--plus they had "Bend" for a particularly pretty gnome or halfling. As in "worth bending down for."

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>>51061496
Can't blame 'em

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>>51061465

Congratulations?

>>51061428

Shouldn't that be the slang term for Halflings with a bigfolk fetish?

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>>51061295
My brother, drenched in my own blood.

>>51061484

Oh boy, you missed out how far we've fallen into depravity!

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>>51061475
But anon! This is your home now! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>51061560
Count your blessing and then drink.

>>51061580

So you're taking responsibility?

>>51061580
Playing high dex female waifus in a nutshell.

>>51061625
any dex character that didn't take ranks in escape artist was asking to be bondaged up

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Your Queen is coming along Nicely.

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>>51061624
Only if you'll have me commence primary ignition!

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>>51061639

wait shit wrong one. I need to label my shit.

>>51061636
5e doesn't have escape artist, and acro is almost never worth taking expertise on.
I'm looking forward to playing my choco half elf rogue further in my 5e game.

>>51061639
The queen is ugly.

>>51061465
Welp, one more feat to fit into my eventual CotCT vivi beastmorph.

>>51061482
DDS?

>>51061694
Dragon Dagger Super

>>51061636
All females are asking to be bondaged up, as long as you know how to read into the subtext.

>>51061510
>"You said you wanted a handjob, didn't you?"

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>>51061728

>>51061718

Women, anon. Women, not females.

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>>51061661

>>51061535
>pic
>implying people in steady, committed relationships need porn
>implying asexuals need porn
>implying eunuchs need porn

>>51061644

B-but that's not Dantooine! That's my Alderaan!

You'll ruin me!

>>51056996
The OP pic alone drops pathfinder to a new level of degeneracy.

>>51061758
People in steady, committed relationships can still need porn. It's not like your SO it's bad if your SO isn't willing and able every time you are.

>>51061738
...What are we thinking here?
Age of majority is around 15-16 in most settings, no? I'd be willing to say women.

>>51061496

That gives the phrase "going on a bender" some alarming new connotations.

>>51061734
Why is Lini in jail.

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>>51061758
I'm asexual and I still enjoy porn occasionally. Just a different kind.

You didn't hear this from me, but I also know some eunuchs...

>>51061738
This. Female animals tend to not exhibit cunty behavior, only female humans do. A literal bitch can be your best bro.

>>51061802
Lini's not in jail, the predators from /pfg/ are.

>>51061734
>"I bet that even a big ol' human boy could fit through these bars..."
>Licks her lips

>>51061802

For being too short-tempered.

>>51061809
Dude, don't act like you don't exhibit cunty behaviour as well.

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>>51061802
B-but she told me she was 18!

>>51061816
>"Wait, I though all of you iconics were gay, save for Harsk and Valeros who are, respectively, asexual and a manwhore?"

>>51061837
>"You're thinking of the other divine caster. Now get over here and take the kno--uh, I mean, gimme that dick!"

>>51061837
Bi, anon, nearly everyone on Golarion is bi. Or was when Paizo just wanted players to have options open, before it got tumblry.

>>51061887
Fuck people for bitching about that. It's an easy choice to make that allows the players to enjoy character development.

>>51061887

They're Schrodinger's Sexuality, they're all sexualities until the DM states otherwise.

>>51061771
Hush now, no more words, only a show of power. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear, of this battlestation.

>>51061887
Unless the character is specifically meant to be a dick Scarnettis, cough cough

>>51061905
>>51061906
It's really the best way to run relationships. See who's looking for what and adapt NPCs accordingly.

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>>51061923
Oooohohohohoho~
You seem awfully proud of that technological terror you constructed, senpai!

I want to apply to Pendragon, but I'm not sure if there's a way the backstory I have in my head could fit with the world the DM has.

>>51061944
I mean, maybe it's not the best for world building. But the best for world building isn't necessarily the best for fun. And that's what really matters.

>>51061871
>"Make one out of wood. Hah, I am hilarious! No, but seriously, stop doing that or we shave that cat of yours bald and paint it with tar and feathers."

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>>51056996

What's the largest set of breasts you've created for a game?

>>51061955
I think they've only confirmed Kyra as being gay, Merisiel as having some physical attraction to Kyra, and both Valeros and Alain as being demonstrably into women (though that's probably supposed to be a "flaw").

>>51061905
This. If my players want to seduce same sex NPCs, and are good at seducing, I'm gonna side with facilitating them having a good time at my table over saying so-and-so probably doesn't rug bump.

>>51061970
I-cups

>>51061972
Well if you go by the comics it's pretty clear that Chocleric and Beady Eyes are supposedly more than just a fling

>>51061970
32Bs.

>>51061952

Well, if they're in the thread, now might be an excellent time to figure that out.

>>51061992
>>51062003

Now tell us about the character they were attached to.

>>51061972
>both Valeros and Alain as being demonstrably into women (though that's probably supposed to be a "flaw").
No it's not, that's just /pfg/ trying to demonize paizo over everything. There plenty, and I mean fucking plenty, of reason to demonize paizo without having to make any up.

>>51061970
Probably Gisae's, but I never defined her size. It's not really relevant.

My other female characters have been a halfling, a twig-shaped Sylph, and a gaunt Dhampir, all in meatspace games.

>>51061992

Which character was this? Tell us about her!

>>51061970
"huge", I think. That NPC was portly as fuck though. Otherwise "large" or "stacked" were often sizes given to busty ladies. Look for those sizes in the bra isle.

>>51062014
A spunky brown girl tomboy usually who's a big fan of teasing the other party members or at least one of them

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>>51061948
N-not now, Vader-senpai, I'm trying to interrogate the princess!

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>>51061970
However large these are

>>51062014
A Magus that is now currently trying to avenge her wife after she was murdered and the Magus was blamed for it despite her arriving moments before the authorities to find her wife dead in their home.

The party was furious that she was accused and stormed into the prison to release her, fought their way out of the city and are now trying to contact her spirit.

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>>51062048
The cutest.

>>51062017

To be fair, Valeros is always shown failing at pick-ups and Alain's a womanizer that never womanize.

>>51061970
M-cups.
I imported Daetta from GBF.

>>51062048
brown is tasty and you're a patron saint of taste

>>51062035
See >>51062048

>>51061955
Pretty much. Have some important, established NPCs that aren't in positions for PC romance like a quest giving ruler or someone requesting their lover be rrscued, be known, but the rival party, random barmaids, hirelings and the rest could all be into any PC, if they take an interest.

>>51061972
Yeah that's bullshit. Alain is nailed for it because he's RUDE about being a womanizer; Valeros is just a fun guy to be around and respects boundaries (although he does get a laugh out of pinching some ass in the saunas in at least one picture).

>>51062068
>>51062048

>Brown girl tomboy with I-cups

How? Tomboys are supposed to have tiny tats!

>>51062063
Valeros is also shown to be awesome as heck. Can't speak on Alain, though.

>>51062076
I always wondered what was up with that. I'm more surprised he was able to get into the bath with Merisiel and Kyra so easily.

>>51061970
The largest was when I realized that, by the system we were using (yes the GM had actually provided one to shut down questions like that), my dragon disciple had shot up to a K cup through increasing her stats and Hit Die.

>>51061837
>>51061887
Incorrect. The majority of the Iconics are straight.

>>51062086
Tomboys are allowed to be busty, it's more about mindset and attitude. Though it's customary to keep the tomboyishness accented by having her bind them somehow--makes the reveal of just *how* stacked she is all the better.

>>51062051
You know, I might just borrow that art for my character, it looks great and very accurate.
>Glasses
>Large Book
>Asian
>Scrolls
>Dark Hair

>>51062086
You're thinking of a transman

>when some random person from roll20 wants in on the princess game
danger

>>51062144
I used a version of this for an Ulfen child adopted by Varisian (technically Chelish because Magnimar) parents, so don't dare make a slut out of my darling butterfly daughter

>>51062172
Oh no worries there! She'll just be a nerd and descended from distant royalty. No plans to make her someone so brazen!

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>>51061970
Had a scifi game with a race of sea slug people. They used air bladders to float, which just happen to appear as breasts and/or a belly, even the men. One slug girl was quite fond of pumping herself up to hit on a PC she liked. Once pushed into beach ball sizes.

What's the feat that lets you take a fighters weapon master feature? I want to be able to cut shit out of the air too.

>>51062236
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/martial-focus-combat

>>51062224
Is that a cute anthro nepping blue sea slug thing? Those are heckin' adorable!

>>51062236
Just weapon mastery. Not fighter bound, just behind feat taxes is all.

>>51062264
>>51062298
So you have to take the feat twice in order to get advanced weapon training?

>>51062277
They are indeed!

Also,
>hecking
You're not in a game currently exploring a lab run by science fiends are you?

>>51062406

We love to say heck here, anon! We all say it!

>>51062437
So I see

>>51062401
You can't get AWT through a feat normally. However, if you have some way of counting as having Fighter levels you can take the Advanced Weapon Training feat.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/advanced-weapon-training-combat

>>51062515
You can't jank into it that way, Martial Focus specifically only works to satisfy Weapon Mastery feat prerequisites.

>>51062515
Wait never mind rereading everything made me see that you don't need advanced weapon training for cut from the air just weapon focus and cut from the air will do.

>>51062093
Alain is a cunt. Comes with being a Cockatrice cavalier.

>>51062515
>>51062552
Just curious, are there any other classes that actually grant the real Weapon Training feature?

I know a rogue could probably get into a shouting match with a DM about the Rogue Talent named Weapon Training being a class feature. Maybe he'd win with enough gusto or whatever, it is all on Paizo for making so many fucking name conflicts.