/HHG/ The Horus Heresy General

Perturabo was the fattest, most autistic primarch.

An Imperial, lapdog of the Anathema was teaching an initiate squad on Roboute Guilliman, a known autist."Before the class begins, you must reject all forms of superstition and accept the teachings of the Emperor! Yes goyim you must accept mortals, remembrancers, and custodes as comrades in the Imperium. You must pretentiously analyse battle doctrine to the point where people avoid us". At this moment, a brave, Gal Vorbak Word Bearer Chapter Master who had earned the watch of the Gods and read 'The Book of Lorgar' 1500 times and understood the necessity of the Primordial Truth walked up to the initiate tutor and whipped out his raging BWBC.
"How hard is this cock, faggot?" The arrogant tutor smirked intellectually and replied "That is obscene, undignified, we must conduct ourselves better in the eyes of the Emperor."
"Wrong. It represents my rock solid belief in the holy Word of Lorgar Aurelian that has swooned hundreds of Human maidens, and made them cry through the night. If you really believed in the future of Man and our species' survival, you would have fucked a daemonette by now."
The tutor was visibly shaken, dropping his copy of one of Guilliman's tactical tomes. He stormed out of the fortress courtyard crying and wrote a treatise about how to purge the Imperium's heretics. 1/2

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>tfw Word Bearer
>just want to be friends with everyone
Can someone post Word Bearer books as PDFs for me? I used to have them but for reasons I don't anymore. My phone can't into epub either.

That last thread was a mess though.

There is no doubt that at this point our tutor, Eikos Lahmiad, wished he had become a Word Bearer and become more than a spergy ultracuck. He wished so much that he had a bolter to shoot himself out of embarrassment, but alas, he only had his puny romaboo gladius.The initiates applauded and all joined the XVII Legion that day and accepted the Urizen as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Erebus" flew into the room and perched atop the Colchisian Space Marine chapter standard and shed a tear on the chalk. Texts from the Primarch's works and the twines of fate were read several times, and Sorot Tchure himself showed up to enact the cleansing of all Ultramar scum across the sector. The barracks' lodge collectively chalked the pavement with prayers of hard core Chaos-worship rather than autistic 'Practical/Theoretical'. Seeing these events, the '''''loyalist''''' Tetrarch Macraggian umpah, with pure, undulated Sore Loserman butthurt streaming uncontrollably down his cheeks, backed toward the blast door, saying "No...this is heresy!" Without missing a beat, a Chaplain Dark Apostle, whose name was Eliphas, whipped out his athame and beheaded the evil philo-tyrant.
Praise Lorgar

2/2

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>>51028017

That's perfect thank you.

>>51027846
>>51027889

I agree. I thought that Lorgar model always looked he was thinking " I've made a huge fucking mistake"

>>51027957
>>51027862

Those are a good idea but I don't really have the technical skills to do that right now. I'm doing something more like pic related.

>>51028114
>>51028130
Pls no

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>>51028122
We didn't start this war, brother. The progeny of Guilliman caused the first shitpost war. We will finish it.

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>>51028139

>That's perfect thank you.

Sorry that was meant for >>51027862

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Working on a praetor for my BAs, not sure about the left arm yet though

>>51028182
>>51028182
>Word Bearers didn't start the shit flinging and bullshit spewing.

Sure m8.

You can say what you want, but at the end of the day, you're just a sect of edgy whiney cunts that decided to turn on daddy after he punished you for slacking on the job.

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>>51028273
There is no need to be upset.

>>51028244
Right pic looks nice.

Left one is a bit too much of admiring his own biceps

>>51027597
>I'm making a kitbash Rogal Dorn. I was wondering what type of pose he should have.
What bits do you plan on using?

>>51028244
Left looks like he's desperate for the loo, but someone has got there before him so he's shaking his fist at them.

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6th THREAD FOR THE VIth.

AWOO.

>>51028182
>We didn't start this war, brother.
>he says, while word bearers begin the thread with shitpost copypastas

Ok, here's the most recent iteration with 310 points left, what would you add?

Death Guard, Creeping Death, 2190/2500

HQ (245)

Delegatus - Artificer, Combi and Scythe - 105

Siege Breaker - Artificer, Combi and Thunder Hammer - 140

Elites (530)

Apothecary x2, Artificer x2, Augury Scanner x2- 120

Kheres Mortis - 180

Quad Launcher x3, Phosphex - 240

Troops (690)

20 man Tac Squad, Vexilla, Artificer and Melta on Sarge - 250

20 man Tac Squad, Vexilla, Artificer and Melta on Sarge – 250

10 man Flamer Support Squad, Artificer and Melta on Sarge - 190


Heavy Support (715)

2x Predator Executioner + Dozer - 270

2x Vindicator + Dozer (250)

Sicaran Venator + Dozer (195)

Mass infantry, with HQ's and Apothecaries attached, moving up supported by the flamer squad taking advantage of Creeping Death and squatting on objectives. Flanked by Vindicators and Executioners for killing dudes and TEQs, and hopefully the Venator in the mix will be able to discourage Spartans. Phosphex for killing dudes and also for area denial.

>>51028474
let the general burn, cousin

:^)

>>51028483
Get that delegatus a refractor field already.

>>51028496
have faith word bearer
we're all shitposting today

>>51028496
> let the general burn, cousin
as fun as UM vs WB threads are, the shitposting is intensifying to the point that we may not be able to contain it.

>>51028483
Upgrade that Delegatus to a Praetor.
Maybe slap some sponsons and pintle mounts on your vehicles so a weapon destroyed result doesn't cripple them.
There's no reason to upgrade your support sarge.

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>>51028523
>>51028544
>Delegatus

>>51028404
Would a gun in hand lessen that?

>>51028483
I know it is a minor suggestion but I would throw the support squad in a rhino. Keeps those (more) expensive bodies safe and gives them added mobility.

Maybe something besides the kheres that can go anti air? Normally having 1 anti air (which a kheres mortis does.... ehh okay) and heavy supports is enough, however most of your heavy supports cant even try to hit a flyer.

>>51028021
>That's my Primarch Edition
Wow I got quoted, I feel so honored. Great thread picture too.

So, to avail shitposting, it's time for another one of my shitty homebrews.
The Age of Darkness Battalion Force Organisation Array
It basically works like a Decurion, but with FOCs instead of formations.
Apocalypse Only
Command (0-1)
Battalion Command Force Organisation.
0-1 Lord of War
0-1 HQ
Restrictions: The HQ must be a Praetor, a Delegatus or a unique character with the Master of the Legion special rule. The Lord of War must be a Primarch. The Warlord must be a part of this detachment.
Benefits: A Primarch must take a Primarch Command Squad or normal one. The HQ must take a Command Squad, which lose the Chosen Warriors special rule and become full Characters. A single Space Marine Chosen gains the Consul special rule. The Consul must be from one of the following: Herald, Chaplain, Primus Medicae, Champion, Master of Signal, Siegebreaker.

Core Companies (1+)
Each Core Company is a Battles in the Age of Darkness Organization Chart. Other than your Captain, only Centurions and Consuls may be taken as HQs. All Core Companies must take the same Rite of War (out of a limited selection shown below), or all must take no Rite of War. The Rite of War chosen for your Core Companies gives it's restrictions to the entire Battalion other than restrictions reating to choices for compulsory slots (I.E. taking Armoured Breakthrough doesn't force all your auxiliary companies to have Predators for there compulsory choices, but it does force all infantry to buy a dedicated transport, if possible).

Useable Rites of War in a Core Company:
Angel's Wrath.
Armoured Spearhead.
Orbital Assault.
Armoured Breakthrough.
Sky Hunter Phalanx.
Drop Assault Vanguard.

(cont...)

>>51028655
This bits less worked out, which is what I need help with.

Auxiliary Companies (0-1 fewer than the number of Core Companies in the Battalion)
Auxiliary companies allow you to take more unusual forces of marines and make use of the other FOCs with Rites of War.

Onslaught Force Organization Chart

Castellan Force Organization Chart
Not useable if your Core Rite of War prohibits Fortifications.

Leviathan Force Organization Chart
0-1

Basically the whole thing attempts to portray a battalion/great company/chapter/crusade/brotherhood/whatever, where the regular Force Org is for a company.

>>51028483
Give the flamer dudes combat weapons and a rhino.
Give the tac squads combat weapons.
Add a plasma support squad, phosphex on quads is only AP3 IIRC. Give em a rhino too.

>>51028543
Why contain it?

You name a kid Mortarion and you're setting yourself up for trouble. You're implying death and killing with his name, don't keep an eye on him and he goes and starts killing people you wish he didn't. What did you expect?

On the topic of names, GW proving it's British naming someone Lionel Johnson. We're lucky it's not Reginal d'Goodwin of the Ultramarines.

>>51028483
A Deredeo with an Atomantic Pavaise walking behind your dudes to boost your Feel no Pain.

>>51028752
I have a feeling that The Emperor didn't name any of them, and that's why he still thinks of them as the Ninth, Sixteenth, etc. (in some books, not all). The names we know are their adoptive names, more likely to have been influenced by the forces of Chaos that chose their destinations than by ol' Emps.

>>51028768
Sadly, it only boosts the invulnerable save of models in range, not units. So you can still do that, but it has to walk at the front so the dudes taking the shots are in range of the pavisse.

>>51028797
>in some books, not all
Are there any other than MoM?
Kaldor Draigo nearly killed Morty by whispering "Fourteen" to him.
You would have thought this happened more often, with daemons being obsessed with counting.

>>51028835
I see the mag-boots are working well.

>>51028835
Spider dread, spider dread
Does whatever a spider dread does
Can he swing? From a web?
No he can't, he's a 'naught
Look oooooout, it's spider dread

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Stupid phone. Baby Contemptors, attempt 2.

>>51028655
I'm glad to know you're still here with us.
>>51028691
FOCs and RoWs are on themselves a sort of formation where all your army is the formation, so they have smaller boosts and their limitations work assuming you're taking them as an army on their own.
So FOCs that limit the amount of scoring troops you get to bring aren't a real limit, considering you can still bring more than enough troops in your main Core Company (AoD FOC)

You'd need to use real formations.
Hear me out, as long as they are balanced and hand out relatively weak or passive bonuses they'll be fine.
On a historical note, how were formations from the days of Damocles recieved? Were they balanced for their time?

>>51028797
So does this mean that the Primarch's "True Names" are canonically just numbers in either High Gothic or Ancient Sumerian/Whatever Emp's first language is?

>>51028911
No, because BL isn't canon.

Imagine Mortarion getting a heartattack every time somebody said fourteen.

>When is the latest plague fleet going to arrive at the designation I send them to ?
>In fourteen days my lord
>AAAAAAAAAAAARGH ... CURSES, WHY DID HE GIVE US NAMES THAT ARE NUMBERS ?!?!!! WHAT KIND OF AUTISTIC FUCK DOES THAT !?!!!!!

>>51028892
So, what if I took it upon myself to edit the RoWs?

A little janking with the restrictions should help.
>So FOCs that limit the amount of scoring troops you get to bring aren't a real limit
If a RoW represents a company being more than it's squads, surely the array could be said to represent the battalion being more than it's companies?

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>>51028752
Tell that to Morty's foster necrodad.
See? Necromancer dad. He's totally fine with death.
What was Lionel's previous name? Lywynn or something?
>>51028834
Mortarion's name is indeed "Fourteen". But here's the thing: his name is in modern english and nobody speaks modern english anymore, and nobody has spoken it for like 30,000 years.
Only the Emperor even remembers the language.
Example, the Emperor's true name is some pre-hitite pre-protoIndoeuropean COMMON-AS-FUCK name...but nobody even remembers what His language was, good luck guessing it.

Which may or may not be Urist.

It's like being japanese and trying to guess some dude's name is "Catorce", but way more difficult because you write in chinky letters and his name is referring to a translated version of an arabic number.

Here, have naming actual stuff in 30k

>>51028958
Well I mean that would only happen if they were speaking high gothic, though someone would probably take notice if the primarchs started having seizures every time they counted to twenty

>>51028958
The Combat Phase podcast had a really long episode celebrating 10 years since Horus Rising, and at least one author said that a big difference between writing for BL and writing, say, Star Wars or Star Trek novels was that BL was indeed canon. Not necessarily reliable canon, but canon nonetheless. It's no less factual than anything found in a codex or FW black book.

I know we're not fans of Laurie Goulding here but he at least tried to make the HH BL novels self-consistent.

>>51028834
Okay thats why Fulgrim is hiding on the pleasure planet. The EC keeped counting to three, made him explode and raped the bodyparts. Also explains why Perty prefers robots as companions. They only speak binary...

>>51028958
>It is I my lord, Captain of the Fourth Company
This kills the Perturabo

>>51028244
A sword that is lowered across his legs might look better.

>>51029066
Where did the beep boop joke come from again?

>>51028960
Idea:
The Main Legion-specific RoW would work with the Core Company, but the secondary legion-specific would work as an Auxiliary company.

Example:
>Command
Perturabo + Primarch Command Squad with Forgelord (You should let him include Iron Circle models)
>Core 1
Hammer of Olympia line company
>Core 2
Armoured Spearhead
>Auxilary 1
Ironfire Assault Artillery company
>Auxiliary 2
Onslaught company:
Scout Titans + dedicated supporting elements

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>>51029141
>I'm glad nobody knows our Full True Name includes the word "Numbuh" at the beginning.

>>51028958
Actually this would neatly explain why the daemon Primarchs have accomplished so little in ten thousand years.

>>51029141
>Kharn you fucktard, put that damn flamethrower away and stop killing my legion, we are here to kick the EC in their powdered butts.
>Kill! Maim! Burn! Twelve! Kill! Maim! Burn!
>Splosh

>>51028797

>"Be at peace, Konrad Curze, for I have arrived and intend to take you home"
>"That is not my name, father. I am Night Haunter, and I know full well what you intend for me".

But Curze is the only one the Emperor named, I think. Perturabo and Alpharius picked their names, Lion had no name until Luther found him, I think the others were named by their foster parents.

>>51029221
I'm suddenly down with the Primarch being called numbers, because this is too funny and too explanatory.
>>51029172
>You should let him include Iron Circle models
Yes, yes I should, I don't know how I forgot about the beep boops.
>>51029171
Someone posted a pic of the Iron Circle at the open day with the caption
>Go left you stupid fuck
>>Beep-Boop
Damn, those were the threads.

>>51029245
Heeeey, wait a second.
Indeed, Curze was an orphan and people called him Night Haunter, who the hell named him Conny?

About true names, it's not a name you pick, it's how your progenitor named you.

Man, I really can't take Lion El'Johnson seriously because of his name. It just sounds like some silly fan fiction Mary Sue holdover from the RT days, like Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau.

>>51029245
Hm so everybody knew Curzes true name? Now it makes sense that he refused to join chaos and become a deamonprince. He would just be a bad joke on the battlefield

>>51029245
Maybe Konrad Curze is how you pronounce eight in whatever language Emps was using that day He created the Primarchs and everyone thought it was a name on Nostramo.

>>51029245
I don't think the Emperor named him that. That's the Emperor taking a really good psychic guess as to what Kurze called himself (or what Nostramans called him), and Kurze braying his own cute little secret.

>>51029305
But the entire grimdark setting should not be taken seriously, didn't you know ? It has silly names and references everywhere.

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>>51029305
>Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau.
I keked.
I will assume everyone calls him Lion because they think it's short of Lionel and because he wears a fuckton of lion shit on his armour.
>Captcha: trees
:^)

>>51029301
>who the hell named him Conny?
I think I read that fanfic.

>>51029042
>and at least one author said that a big difference between writing for BL and writing, say, Star Wars or Star Trek novels was that BL was indeed canon. Not necessarily reliable canon, but canon nonetheless. It's no less factual than anything found in a codex or FW black book.
>BL author says BL is canon
yes, and? is that supposed to mean something? of course they're going to say its canon, because nobody would buy their drivel if they went out and said it was basically fanfiction

>>51029301
Another issue with the "he didn't give them names just numbers" is that Magnus was psychically conversing with the Emperor for most of his early life, even when he still was in his incubation tank on terra. Yet never does he talk about himself as No. 5

>>51029305

He's named after a poet. Lionel Johnson. He wrote a poem called Dark Angel. That is the sole reason for the naming scheme for the Primarch and Legion.

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>>51029404
>Not fanfiction
>Anything Nick Kyme writes
>'Not fan fiction'

>>51029332
I too thought the Emperor used psychic powers to know that name...but thing is mind reading people from Nostromo would yield the name Night Haunter, and why would Numbuh Eight pick specifically the name "Konrad with K of Kool" as his name?
I mean, as Primarchs naming themselves go we do know why Numbuh Four named himself Perturabo: he read that name, translated it and he liked it.

But what about Konrad?

>>51029411
Also great hair.

>>51029402
Karlos, as it happens.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5687998

>>51029411
I know. That's why it's bad, because I can't stop reading his full name as Lionel Johnson.

>>51029445

Probably read Heart of Darkness :^)

>>51029439
never said it wasn't anon.

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>>51029458
What the fuuuuuuuck
I can't make this up. That fanfic will haunt my dreams

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>>51029582
Fixed

>All these faggots calling primarchs by their original name from Index Astartes.

Get on with the times, Laurie declared that's no longer canon, nowadays the correct way is their designated number.

Jeez golly, I really like the new Horus Heresy™ fluff!

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>>51028114
>>51028130
Breddy gudd.

Though it would be a lot better if it didn't rely on "muh dik" and hewed closer to the religious/ideological content of the original pasta.

>>51028563
>Perturabo doesn't know how to delegate
>meanwhile Dorn still manages to /getshitdone/ and WIN the Horus Heresy by staying on Terra and spending his time on interior designing

>>51028911
No.

The Emperor had the names he was going to raise them with, or else he would let the primarch babby choose its own name.

As it panned out, the primarchs got named by randomers on other planets, so who knows.
This "true name" thing is kind of weird in my eyes. I didn't think it applied to mortals, or at least non-psykers.

>>51029301
He was a perfect precognitive, he knew that that was what he would be named in the future.

>>51030024
>it would be a lot better if it didn't rely on "muh dik"
you're expecting a bit much from this guy, I think

>>51030055
Probably still applies to mortals, just doesn't matter since you can permakill them with relative ease.

>>51030055
Well in 40k there is this supposedly ancient language that gives those that know the words power over the material realm to such an extend that they might as well be powerfull psykers. Except even non-psykers can use it. I think it was first mentioned in the Eisenhorn series.

Maybe everybody has a true name in that language ? Though with even those that know about it only knowing a handfull of words at most, I doubt it's used much.

>>51030237
True names affects warp-flesh (but not the named one's psychic powers themselves).
If I spoke your true name, your warp-flesh would explode. All 0.00 kg of it.

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>>51030277
Pychic powers for non-psykers is sorcery, right?
Pic unrelated, I want to know about that language you say.

>>51028958

>because BL isn't canon

Literally in the codex idiot

>>51030383
>Kaldor "Memes" Draigo

>>51030419

>having some random ass archmagos able to kill most Primarchs in a duel

Perfectly okay

>having the champion of the emperors last gift to humanity be able to just barely defeat the enemy he was built to fight

This is fucking gay fuck you ward

Do you think the Custodes are in good terms with the Grey Knights, with both being made with the Emperor's genes and wielding halberds/glaives?

>>51030457
Rules /= Fluff

Come on man, shouldn't be this hard.

>>51030375
It's called Enuncia. Lexicanum has a small article about it.

>Enuncia is an ancient language, but instead of communication, the language was used as a tool or a weapon: when spoken aloud or written, Enuncia was capable of manipulating the very fabric of reality, a power beyond even the most potent psykers. It was incredibly dangerous, especially since it required no natural psyker ability, and could potentially be used by anyone

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>This is what the Ultramarines consider a "victory"

lmao

>>51030522
So, in a battle that engulfed several systems comprising many worlds filled with people where weapons of mass destruction and space battles happened, they only lost about as many mortals as the Battle of Somme (1'000,000 casualties in 5 months), one of many bloody battles fought on one of Earth's wars.

Is the rest of the fucking galaxy even trying or what?!

>>51030629
I'm not entirely sure where those numbers are drawn from (the forgeworld book, maybe? I don't think Know no Fear went into numbers), but it's actually one instance of the older fluff being a better representation of a multi-planet war than the new.

Old fluff had the smurfs gunning down millions of disposable cultists and daemons on calth, and that's before the retcons to 200,000-strong legions happened.

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>>51030686
>gunning down millions of disposable cultists
Now that's more like it

>>51030629
Battle is fought primarily with Astartes who are far rarer. Losing ~150,000 Astartes in 1 battle is the single biggest lose outside of the Drop Site Massacre

Also Calth was a fight on 1 planet.

>>51030705
M8 the emu wars are no laughing matter

>>51030813
Indeed. People can get very emu-tional about it.

>>51030753
>Battle is fought primarily with Astartes
except it wasn't, the bulk of the forces planetside were auxiliaries from either side

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>>51030827
Kek
>>51030919
Yeah but those don't count :^)

>>51030938
that's also untrue, since they are quite clearly counted among the (hilariously low) casualties

is a techmarine with rad missile automata worth taking? for iron hands

>>51031054
It rapes mortar rapiers. Depends on how much you like that.

>>51028139
Sauce anon? Where did you find those glorious conversions....

>>51030705
While it is a stain on my countries history, I don't know that inflicting no casualties, breaking and routing is a decisive victory.
They did keep their force intact, but still...

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>>51031141
if you respond to those kinds of posts with any sincerity, they win

>>51028877
neat.

>>51031160
It was intended as mock sincerity, desu. I don't think anyone actually cares.

Although saying that, this probably comes off as back flipping, but whatever.

>>51031185
Oh great, I was actually going to respond to you to tell you don't sweat it, nobody cared.
I think combating pests with machineguns is fun, and probably so do many others.

>>51031185
plain text isn't exactly the best medium for straightfaced mockery

shooting birds is fun though

>>51031141
They won because Australia surrendered unconditionally, not because they actually beat y'all.

>>51031083
that sounds pretty good

>>51028182
>we didnt start it
>starts it

this is why everyone hates WB

>>51031675
case point >>51030522

Luther did nothing wrong

>>51031675
>tfw I just want books and friends
>sad lonely word bearer

>>51031794
then stop shitposting pls

So for the 40k dreadclaw it's relatively easy to make a good proxy by just flipping the fins on a normal pod upside down.

What about 30k dreadclaws? The picture seems like it's bigger than a normal one, is it possible to cheaply proxy them?

>>51031800
I'm not. I'm against it, myself.

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I spend the day out, miss two threads, and look what happens! Word Bearer shitposting all over the place!

>>51031841
Its the same model for both, you also need a flying stand.

>>51031893
Oh, alright.

>>51031885
>tfw Word Bearer
>walk in on all that
>walk out
>beg for books too
>leave
The thread's a mess, sir.

Also, there are no left handed melee weapons in the MkIV tac boxes and that saddens me.

>>51031885
I missed a week. I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore.

Played a game this evening, SoH vs. Salamanders. How can salamanders get in flamer/melta range without getting charged and mulched in close combat?

>>51031976
vehicles

use units that screen charging enemies (unless they're jetbikes then you're btfo)

>>51031976
I think SoH are better than people give them credit for. +1BS for close range, and extra attacks for being bullies. Tbqh I think they're thevone legion you don't want to get in close with, not counting the other melee legions.

But I dunno. Vehicles/transports?

>>51030705
> couldn't beat flightless birds
Australians no longer manly-est white people, ranked 'below Canadians'
Full story at 11

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So when are we gonna get Termites, Moles and Hellbores?

>inb4 never

>>51030487
>Rules /= Fluff
Until we get fluff which contradicts Scoria's rules there's no reason to believe they aren't a roughly accurate representation of his power.

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>tfw waiting for FW to reply to your email from last year regarding a rules clarification

suffering

>>51032322
Oh, so you have not yet given up on your response? Good for you.

>>51032322
send a new one?

>>51032322
Try several emails. I'd just love to know what ally status Daemons have with WB and Warp Cults when not using on of the RoW or characters. But I guess they got better things to do.

>>51032293
Bligh has said that emps, the primarchs, and the custode captain are the 20 strongest beings in the imperium.

Also, Scoria gets his ass kicked and thrown in jail, not that great as far as fluff goes.

>>51032591
Not that anon, I did think of that but we must remember that after he got out of jail he somehow acquired and plugged in all the relics.
He's wielding the Vhodian sceptre, that's the personal staff of the supreme leader of all Xana.
Scoria probably used the loyalist distraction to get the former Prime killed, possibly using his patented non-euclidian Cybernetica.
Emaciated prisoner he was, but now he's the top Ursid and we all know Xana ends up as a hell forge in the Eye, so he's still got quite some road to travel.

>>51032681

Nothing a good chainaxe to the face can't fix.

>>51032591
I really think Scoria was an accident. He's way to undercosted.

>>51032869

He is an accident. But nevertheless a welcome addition to GW's coffers as more people buy up Mechanicum mecha-tentacle monsters and knights.

>>51032869
He's what happens when you create a new character under the premise "hey let's make something that can challenge Sigismund".
Scoria pretty much has Str(D-1) and EW, those are his main powerhouse stats.

>>51032869
He could use a 75 point increase, but he is limited in thr mobility department.

Can I get some feedback on this list? I feel like I've sunk a lot of points into the Spartan deathstar.

Opinions?

Salamanders Superfriends

Rite of War: The Covenant of Fire

Praetor - 200
Mantle of the Elder Drake
Master-Crafted Paragon Blade
Dragonscale Shield
Cataphractii Armor
Digital Lasers

Elites (Command Squad) - Firedrakes - 580
10 dudes
Fists/SS
TH/SS on master
DT - Spartan - 320
Flare Shield

Elites (Command Squad) - Apothecary - 55
Artificier Armor

Troops - Pyroclasts - 235
8 dudes
DT - Proteus - 250
EAW

Troops - Pyroclasts - 235
8 dudes
DT - Proteus - 250
EAW

Troops - Support Squad - 175
5 Meltaguns
DT - Rhino - 35

Fast Attack - Primaris - 160
Kraken missiles

>>51032908
Way more than that. He has primarch level army buffs and kit. More so in the kit department.

He would be blatantly OP if he had more mobility. But having a MC bodyguard is pretty good.

That has nothing to do with cost however. It's kit and rules that contribute to it. Otherwise plasma pistols would be cheaper on humans etc. We just got lucky his transport options are limited. He needs to be primarch level in cost. Not having a separate model to cart him around isn't factored in.

Or just redone so he's not bonkers powerful.

>>51032956
2495/2500 btw.

>>51032956
How about switching the Paragon Blade for a Thunder hammer? Your dude has Eternal warrior because he's wearing the Eternal Blanked and a 3++, he can take it.

>>51033027
I suppose I could.

BTW, how is the Proteus size-wise compared to other Land Raiders? How easy would it be to proxy?

>>51032956
Pyroclasts are non compulsory troops for Covenant of Fire

>>51033178
Shit, you're right.

>>51031054

Forge lord is sickeningly good, techmarine is a little vulnerable but still good

>>51033244
But can a Forgelord take Servitors? I thought they only gained access to Techmarine wargear.
I mean I would hardly count Servitors as people, but true wargear isn't that fleshy.

>>51032293

I mean Draigo would make a decent accord of himself against Mortarion if Mortarion had the daemon rule as far as I can tell.

>>51029388
DESU, I hope the Lion doesn't end up looking like that when he gets a model. Looks too much like a WHFB Chaos Knight.

>>51030375
>>51030504
Enuncia's also a plot point in a number of Abnett novels. Comes up in both Eisenhorn and Ravenor, IIRC.

>>51033048
Look up "Land Raider Proteus comparison" on Google Images. It's a bit taller than a Mars-pattern Land Raider, but also not quite as long horizontally. I wouldn't have a problem with you running one as a regular LR proxy, or vice versa, though, since the difference isn't enormous.

>>51033488

>I wouldn't have a problem with you running one as a regular LR proxy, or vice versa, though, since the difference isn't enormous.

The only real significance is in points. Not that anon, but I would only do such a thing for such a reason with friends just to test a list, under the promise that I would eventually get the actual model because proxying all the time is silly.

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>>51033340

Servitors are taken as a wargear option, its completely legal.

>>51033356

In fact the more I think about it the more Draigo really just seems like a 40k Sigismund and we all know Siggy is at least capable of maybe taking out a wounded Primarch.

Siggy is WS7, Draigo is WS6 with preferred enemy daemons and master crafted.

Both are S7 on the charge, siggy gets ID from challenges, Draigo gets it from hammerhand or force.

Siggy is I6 on the charge, Draigo is just I5.

Siggy forces invulnerable saves to be rerolled, Draigo can have higher strength and has hatred+preferred enemy daemons.

Siggypoo has a 4+, Draigo has a 3+

Sigs is 230, Draigo is 245
A lot of parallels now that I look at it

>>51033517

Sigs: preferred enemy - Primarchs
Draigo: preferred enemy - Daemon Primarchs

>>51033555
Do you think the Custodes are in good terms with the Grey Knights, with both being made with the Emperor's genes and wielding halberds/glaives?
Do you think the Custodes are in good terms with the Grey Knights, with both being made with the Emperor's genes and wielding halberds/glaives?

>>51033606

Considering they have the emperors gene seed and have access to the throne room, they're probably at least on speaking terms

>>51033618
Heh, srry for the double posting. The phone sometimes does that.

>>51033606
>>51033618

Custodes police the Webway for daemons. Grey Knights police the Segmentums for daemons. They're two different branches that don't really get to interact with each other. That being said, they'll probably be the best of battle brother allies when Abaddon finally invades Terra and share combat duties on the field and in the Webway.

Are the Solar Auxilia more like the imperial guard or the Militarium Tempust? I want to get into 30k but I've always played space marines in 40k so I wanted to try something different.

>>51033816
Mix of Tempestus with IG Tonks. Biased promo is biased, but it's fun.
>Why play Solar Auxilia
>Because you like Stormtroopers but find their list hideously lacking in the vehicle department, and you like the Imperial Guard but not their 5+ cardboard save. But most of all, it's because you like 80's sci-fi tin men and this is the Militarum Tempestus 30k equivalent. Seriously, you're able to make a force with decent survival ability as well as the large numbers and fire-power of classic Guard, not to mention Commanders that can go toe-to-toe with a Space Marine Captain (or Praetor in 30k). Also, all our vehicles are better than the average IG ones, and that's modesty: better AV, Melta immunity and we can field some Superheavies as normal heavy options.
>Yes, we laugh at Vraks.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Solar_Auxilia_(30k)

>>51033895
That sounds great. How do they compare gameplay wise to Cultists/Militia or Mechanicum?

Calling it,

Points: 260

Legio Custodes Galatus-pattern Contemptor Dreadnought

WS: 6
BS: 5
S:8
F: 13
S: 12
R: 12
I: 5
A: 4
HP: 4

Special Rules:
- Flare Shield
- Atomantic Shielding
- Move Through Cover
- Fleet
- Venerable

>>51033991
what of the weapons ?

>>51033991
Galatus?
What the hell is up with these names? We just wanted 2 kinds of Custodes squads, Auric Termies, Auric Dreads and
Grav
Boxy
Golden
Rhinos
That was all. No need for bullshit grav Siccaran and similar.

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>>51034065
S8 AP3 Rending Hueg Dreadsword of Dreadness :^)

What do you guys think of my list for LVO:

HQ:
-Chaplain w/ boarding shield, artificer, and solerite

Troops:
-10 tacticals with sarge w/ power fist
-7 Terminators with Storm Shields and Thammers in a Spartan with Flare Shield, Ceremite, and Dozer blade

Heavy Support:
-Laser Vindicator Squadron w/ One HK missile each and two Machine Spirts
-Deredeo w/ Missiles
-Leviathan in a DDP w/ Drill and Claw, Volkite, Ceremite, and Phosphex

LoW:
- Dorn

>>51033816
Imagine an army that combines the best parts of stormtroopers and Death Korps of Kreig.

Now give them martian death rays and power axes and give them a dedicated transport that doubles as a Vindicator.

>>51034200
Shit/10, Dorn is doing fuck all in that list and he isnt going to kill primarchs so thats even worse plus you only have 2 scoring units.

I recommend 24hrs in the pain-glove.

>>51034200
it's
shit
you don't have anything particularly threatening except for dorn+termies, 3 laser destroyers is overkill against the usual amount of mech you'll see, but not enough to handle a spartan, and you have almost zero scoring, which is going to lose you games

>>51028139
Where does this come from?
What is the conversion?
I NEED TO KNOW

>>51034544
Cataphractii legs and body. You should be able to figure it out from there.

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>>51034544

>>51034625
What I don't get is the green stuff part.
>greenstuff the bottom part of the back to match the front plate
Does this mean I need to greenstuff a transitional side sets of armor from the front to the back of the torso to blend the marks?

>>51034701
Could I see a side shot of your torso's without the arms? A step by step process would be lovely.

>>51028139
>>51034701
They're so ugly.

Dang I hate 'True-Scale' marines. It's not that the marines are out of scale, it's everything else.

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>>51034701
Is the green stuff used to raise the torso or to pad it's depth with the original artscale marine, not this one (It was was just a good example)

>>51034226
>tfw dracosan is absurdly expensive even from chinaman

>>51034230
>>51034420
What would you guys take to LVO?

>>51034873
it's a gigantic model dude
gotta pay for the good stuff

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>>51031106
>>51034714
>>51034625
>>51034544
>>51034719
>>51034701

Sorry for getting back to you so late but here's the instructions.

>>51033895
>Quoting 1d4chan

Oh, anon...

>>51034951
see >>51034851

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I'm asking because this is what I've got from it so far-
Cut the front torso flat= done
Mate it with a regular torso back= done
???
Where does the greenstuff come in? Is it normal for the rear torso to seem so high up on the body?
It would really help if we could see the anons torsos, either in progress or even just from behind the model.

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>>51035091
Phone posting fail, fuck.

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What does /HHG/ think of Day of Revelation?

>>51034719
>It's not that the marines are out of scale, it's everything else.
>"one" thing is not in the scale of everything else
>its everything else that's out of scale.

>>51035258
Everything is out of scale with almost everything. Has GW looked at the size of the Rhino or Chimera recently? If they were properly scaled, they couldn't physically fit the number of occupants listed.

>>51035331
aye, no consistency.

>>51035181
Only works well if your group/event is ignoring the 40k FAQ's single meltabomb rule.

I've heard Ultramarines are a lot less vanilla/boring in 30k. Is this true?

>>51035471
Depends on who you ask. But at least we didn't have the 'all marines cry themselves to sleep knowing they will never be Ultramarines' part of Ultrasmurfs so far.

>>51034714
>>51035091
See Doghouse's tut. He's the king nigga of artscale marines.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327755-heresy-iron-warriors-wip-40k-imperial-fists-101216/?p=4561903

>>51034719
>believable proportions
>good conversion
>good paintjob
What makes them so ugly to you?

>>51035400

I'd say that any day of revelation list worth its salt is going to be taking 15-20 assault marines in each blob, adding an apothecary, and probably another character as well. That's enough to give you the opportunity to take a couple of melta bombs, plus several combi-meltas and/or up to 6 inferno pistols, not to mention things like power fists or thunder hammers. That's a fair bit of opportunity to include some armour-cracking devices, probably at a lower cost than the 100 points you'd need to drop on melta bombs, and with some ability to be used on non-vehicle targets.

I have no friends, so I built my own and now I need a name for my titan legion. Ideas?

>so far its 3 warhounds and a warlord, probably going to get a reaver at the end of the year. Paint scheme dark blue, white decals and silver trim.

>>51035947
What's your favorite animal or insect?

>>51036042

A rabbit. Doesn't really seem fitting for war machines.

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>>51036147
I don't know man, have you seen monthy python?

A giant exctinct rabbit was called Nuralagus rex, you should totally call your lead titan that.

Leporidae is the family name for rabbits and hares. Caeruleus is latin for dark blue. What about Legio Leporidae?

I'm just spitballing here.

>>51036147
If its fast (and blue and silver do work for fast) you could work hare into the name
The hares of wrath
The silver hares
The furies of death

>>51036223

Rabbit-owner here, the Life of Brian depiction is not entirely inaccurate.

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>>51035947
>Paint scheme dark blue, white decals and silver trim
Something noble sounding maybe.
You can't go wrong with impressive-sounding latin words

Legio Invictus
Legio Endurum
Legio Iapetus - The piercers
Legio Polaris
Legio Urius - The lightbringers

Do you have any Titan Guard? They seem pretty rad, and if you do find people to play with who don't want to fight a titan they'd be good for that

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>>51036223
>>51036225

Well, when you put it that like.
Pic related, in-progress lead titan and legion mascot.

>>51036267
I was going to get some titan guard but I disagree with the pricing for them, but I may change my mind just because of how cool they look and I was thinking of sticking some on the warlords base when I get around to it. I do also have a a lot of taghmata kicking around, so they'd always find somewhere to fit in.

>>51031723
It is inherently wrong to oppose the best Primarch Lion El'Jonson.

>>51031723
>Luther upset that he never got to kill a calabanite lion in the great beast hunts before the imperium came
>ends up striking down the Lion of Caliban
POTTERY

>>51036298
Cool rabbit and titan, looks like you've made a good choice!

>>51036298
Is that a re-cast titan?

>>51036298
Domestic rabbits actually have quite a cool name in Latin - Oryctolagus

Legio Oryctolagus, and their common name can just be whatever sounds cool - I know a few of the named titan legions' common names don't match their faux-latin ones

If you're doing visible battle honours of any sort, Caerbannog should be on top of the list

>>51036398

I wish, I'd probably have had less problems with it

>>51036394
thanks

>>51036413
That's a pretty cool name, thanks. I don't know whether to have caerbannog as the honour or straight up call the warlord Caerbannogs Wrath/Woe/Lament

>>51036298
>>51036147
The Plucky 0's.

>>51036444
Get a second one and call it the Black Beast of Aaaarrrrrgggghhhh

>>51036356
>>It is inherently right to oppose the best traitor Primarch Lion El'Jonson.

FTFY

>>51036254

Holy Grail, you fucking degenerate.

Are you quite sure you're on the right board? Maybe /fit/ is more your speed?

>>51036298
what the fuck have you done to that titan

could you not get replacement parts or something from FW if they were really this fucked up? The FW staff are aware that the demand for these was way higher than anticipated and the molds suffered, so they've been on the ball with making sure that people get nice parts/sending out replacements

>>51036225
Owsla of Frith

>>51037071
considering the price of each part, I fucking hope FW are on the ball for replacements.

Of course it might be a chinabro recast?

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>>51037096
If it's the same one that's been being posted in /wip/ recently (pic related) then no, it's not a recast.

Do infantry-heavy/footslogging lists stand a chance against your typical "Spartan backed up with two or three land raiders" list?

And what's the meta with user-bought fortifications like in 30k anyway?

>>51037453
DEM GAPS
oh holy motherfuckery

>>51037453
that is disgusting , and it's gonna show once painted
contact fw

>>51037453
Dedicate this one to Nurgle and get another senpai.

>>51037039

Well shit, that's what I get for hasty typing.

>>51037453

I don't know what's more disgusting - the warped cast, your failure to send it back, or that you did such a lazy, half-arsed job with the greenstuff. I'm almost unconvinced that the cast is even bad, and that you didn't just put it together wrong.

>>51037453
Contact forgeworld, it's worth a shot.

>>51037453
"let me just half ass my $1k model"

For what purpose?

>>51037965
>$1k
more like 1.25k£

>>51037965
>>51037721
>>51037815

Don't confuse half assed with half done, that picture was taken after I'd finished applying the greenstuff, not cleaning it. The big bits of greenstuff you see are there for the thin plasticard im using and I needed it to dry first so I could start shaving and cutting it to shape.

>>51038065
i didn't mean to say it was your fault for it looking the way it does anon
but gaps that big are unacceptable on something you payed 1.25£ for

>>51038223
It seems to be a common problem with the warlord - they've managed to get rid of any loss of detail, but on the flip side there's big ass gaps everywhere. I'd much rather have gaps though, they're easier to deal with than replacing detail.

For example the weapons, especially the volcano cannon, all have massive gaps between the joins, nearly as large as the ones under the intakes. Lots of people have been unhappy about this.

>>51038255
shame
but hey if you're happy with it and adamant you can fix it yourself it's all good
come to think of it i'dd much rather have gaps than loss of detail to

>>51037453
Lol even my recast warlord didn't have gaps like that.

>>51037453
That warlord is a gaper if I ever saw one.

>>51028088
Clearly Dorn is. The emperor won't even even let him use a normal bike out of fear of him crashing, causing death, and instead advises he use a mobility scooter.

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God damn it, FW, stop getting in the way of my space mongols.

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I CAN'T WAIT

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>>51039418
If you really need them you could just get a Space Marine Bike Squad.

The White Scars were at Battle of Terra. So thay would have Mark 7 Armour during the Horus Heresy.

ALPHARIUS MODEL WHEN???

I want to start collecting 30k but I'm torn between Raven Guard and Alpha Legion but I want to see what their primarch looks like before I choose, especially since I think the Corvax model is a bit underwhelming.

>>51039534
Convert the legs to MkV. Get CSM biker legs and make MkVI bikers, like I did. Along with Scout bike shield and bolters.

>>51039577
pics?

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>>51039569
>ALPHARIUS MODEL WHEN???

Now.
One for each piece!

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>>51039569
You could just kitbash Alpharius like I'm doing with Rogal Dorn.

I'm doing something similar to pic related.

>>51039569

When Jetbikes that look like Sammaels finally get released. . .


. . .In Plastic.

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>>51039569
I think models for Alpharius and Dorn haven't even been planned yet. Magnus is next. Then supposedly Sanguinius for the book after Inferno, though with how long that's gonna take is anyone's guess. So yeah ... enjoy the wait

>>51039680
>magnus getting the double love in 40k and 30k

wtf I hate tzeentch now

>>51039690
If only Tzeentch got good rules.

>>51039887
Yeah, pink horrors are so weak.

>>51039569
Not until the Solar War book. If they're holding off on Dorn still then it's a good bet we won't see Alpharius until they can do a Dorn v Alphy double set like Fulgrim and Ferrus, which means, well, Solar War.

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Inspired by some silly discussion about the alpha legion being over the top unique snowflakes.

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>>51040217
Is that from something?

>>51040217
>unique snowflakes
>literally a legion based on anonymity and a lack of individuality

>>51039569
Gods, you guys are annoying.

Primarchs get models when they're personally involved in combat in a black book. Dorn and Alpharius haven't yet. It should happen when the traitors reach the Solar System, but I don't see that happening until after we get the rumored DA/BA book, a book with WS and who knows what else (chaosified EC and daemon prince Fulgrim - maybe Angron too on the other side of the galaxy), the Martian Civil War, Tallarn, the chaosification of the DG, Molech and Anvillus... so Dorn and Alpharius should be out in 2020.

>>51040329
I could see them folding the Scars into a Solar War book.

>>51040217
If anything Alpha Legion is the opposite of unique snowflakes. They all look the same, or are imitating another snowflake that is unique.

>>51040341
I could see them doing that too, and I'd hate them for it. There are too many books that should happen before the Solar War starts.

Quick /HHG/, give Sanguinius and his wargear rules!

>>51040260
Bleach.

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>>51040494
>>51040260

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>>51040521

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>>51040482
here you go friendo

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>>51039569
Just make your own, kitbashing is fun and it will be cool to show off when he's done.

It will be years until Alpharius gets released.

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>>51040564
and jagged khan

>>51040528
It's nasty, but do you want to hear some REAL filth?
>chem malcador infernus
>with tank commander
>granting preferred enemy

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>>51040521
Good thought it was this shit.

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>>51040580
oops jaghatai, autocorrect

and magnus, part 1

>>51040580
He should have a jet bike as an option.

>>51040564
>>51040580
WS is too low for both. These guys are up there with fulgrim and angron.

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>>51040587
Magus part 2, but I think I need to nerf him. my friend wrote this and honesly its too good

>>51040587
Maggy should be a MC.

>>51040617
eh why? he's supposed to be just a smidge taller than vulkan

>>51040605
>>51040587
Is Magnus not a psyker?

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>>51040626
He's a big guy.

>>51040658
>AHRIMAN COME BACK
>GIVE ME BACK MY ARMS YOU ASSHOLE THIEF
>AHRIMAAAAAAAAAAN

>>51040423
I dunno man, the Solar War doesn't necessarily HAVE to start with the Battle of Pluto. Technically it could encompass a range of tactical operations by the Traitors in the three Spheres, or just the random attacks by unsupported Traitor elements that happened from when the war began. There's always a lot of shit happening in the shadows.

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WHERE'S INFERNO?
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT HERE SOMEWHERE YOU LITTLE POINTY HEADED ELDAR LOOKING PIECES OF SHIT.

>>51040818
30 days to go!

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>>51040895

>>51040582
Actually I did make a mistake, Stormlords can't take targeters. Still BS 4 with preferred enemy infantry is savage.
>30 shots
>Hit on 4+
>Preferred Enemy
>Wound marines on a 2+
>AP 3

Combine with 4 lascannons, 4 twin-linked heavy bolters, and a pintle heavy bolter, and you can reasonably expect to wipe out an entire blob of 20 marines a turn. Alternatively take a stormsword with a commander. Str 10 AP 1 ten inch blast with preferred enemy. Wipe out a unit of firedrakes a turn pretty much.

Overall solar auxilia is pretty crazy.
>Can field up to 4 super heavies in a list
>Can field up to 6 leman russ squadrons
>Basic transports can be armed with a demolisher cannon
>Basic transports have 5 hull points
>One tank can get preferred enemy infantry
>Can reasonably field over a hundred models with strength 6 guns (blast chargers)
>Can easily spam multilasers for massed strength 6
>Can field up to 3 units of techpriests to keep their numerous vehicles alive

Actually thinking of building a list with a tank commander/targeter shadowsword. Not useful but the idea of a Solar Auxilia commander with a BS of 5 is glorious.

Also the idea of malcador spam combined with a stormhammer seems cool. Four super heavy tanks, each with an AP 2 blast and an AP 3 blast, malcadors have flare shields for pseudo AV 14 while still being fast. For bonus points take some LRBTs for more fast tanks with battle cannons.
>8 Battlecannons
>3 Demolisher cannons
>1 Str 9 AP 2, 7" blast with a 72" range and shred
>40 hull points
>All AV 14 or flare shield 13 on front
>Fuck it just use blast weapons for anti-tank

>>51041014
What's that image?

I want to represent Skaven using Imperial Cults and Militias but I am unsure which pair of Provenances to use.
Cult Horde seems good for the mobs but snapshots take away from my spewing poison aesthetic
Tainted Flesh seems awesome with rending but the sheer number of levy squads seems incredibly hindering when I want to add some big rat-ogryn and vehicles to represent certain things.
Feral Warriors seems good albeit lacklustre compared to the others.
Alchemist jackers is as fluffy as well but also seems lacklustre.

>>51041073
It's a sneaky seagull. Clearly I made him too sneaky.

>>51041034
>BS4
>Hit on 4+

Umm...

>>51041091
I definitely wouldn't use cult horde. Fearless isn't a special rule skaven should ever have.

Feral warriors seems very appropriate however.

>>51041091
Feral Warriors' and Alchem-jackers' bonus abilities that you pay per unit synergize very well together for a combined +2 attackers per model in the units with both upgrades. Ogryn are running around with 7 attacks on the charge each (if you give them CCWs or power weapons), as many as a pimped out praetor and can wound marines on a 2+ with AP 2 weapons if you give them power axes. Grenadiers can be pseudo strength 4 with all those attacks and WS 4 from feral warriors thanks to augmented weapons. They can reasonably outfight marines in CC.

>>51041119
Meant 3+.

Is a Stormsword, Hellhammer or Stormlord ever worth taking as Admech? I want one, but we can't really fill up the Stormlord and they're all expensive as hell in points. I kind of want to get one and mod it up, and there's a few buffs that should work on it, right? Enginseers for guaranteed repair, Ordo Reductor magi, do Archimandrites give it IWND?

>>51041132
Valid, I'll strike that off the list.

>>51041153
Good point. Those are strong contenders. The rending is tempting as it sounds nice for hordes of rats mauling things with their claws and teeth but if I'm packing a bunch of Ogryn with poweraxes anyway then it's a bit excessive. Plus the volume of hits and the flexibility with the other Feral+Alchem seems more worth it.

>>51031841

>it's relatively easy to make a good proxy by just flipping the fins on a normal pod upside down
>good proxy

No anon, that conversion looks like shit.

>>51041190
You don't need to fill up a stormlord completely. Also you could make it a fire base for conversion beamers.
>3x 2 Techpriest squads with conversion beamers: 405 points
Nearly doubles the cost of your unit but now you have some self repair ability as well as 6 conversion beamers.
Also could stuff some myrmidon destructors in there. More conversion beamers, more lethal conversion beamers. Also can let you take techpriests for the sole purpose of repairing.

>>51040580

Too broken.

Talk to me about Bikes anon.

what are your favourite bikes? is there ever actually a reason to take Plasma guns on outrider squadrons? or any gun upgrade on outrider squadrons?

Do you like pure outrider squadrons or are you a fan of mixed outrider and scimitar squads?

>>51041034
anon you're forgetting the best thing about tank commanders
as some one whose first solar auxilia will arrive on Friday here is my plan for the ultimate party bus
>stormlord tank commander
>pick scout
>get masade
>get 4 sponsons with tl heavy flamers
>put a heavy flamer as a pintle mount
>cram a flamer section and veletarii in
>optionally take 3 enginseers with servitors for either haywire gl or servo arms repair fuckery
>turn 1
>masade allows the stormlord to be redeployed wherever the fuck you want in your deployment zone or in reserves
>scout lets it move 12 inches
>can move another 6 inches at combat speed or 12 inches at cruising speed so tank shock is a gogo if there is a sufficiently juicy target
>if anything tries to charge it they get overwatched by 4 tl heavy flamers, 1 heavy flamer , 9 flamers , 1 hand flamer and 20 st5 ap 5 deflagrate shots fired at bs2
bonus points for playing this while doing your first turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zbi0XmGtMw

>>51041423
4 plasma bikes is 220pts. and scores 7.111... hits at rapid fire range. 5 man plasma squad with a Rhino (to achieve mobility) is 210pts. and scores 6.666... hits at rapid fire range.

>>51040482
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Unification#Sanguinius
I need more titles for papa Sang lads, every other Primarch has 5+.

>>51041483
i forgot the 15 vulcan mega bolter hsots

>>51041423
No, I'd equip Outriders for close combat and jink a lot with them - so no gun upgrades. Twin-linked helps with snap firing bolters anyway.

Jetbikes should be the opposite; they're too expensive to waste in cc (not much offensive power for the points) and should just fly around shooting things (and trying not to jink).

>>51041483
>>51041568
You know vehicles (apart from walkers) can't overwatch right?

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What Legion would Stefan Molyneux be in?

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>>51041624
BOY ARE YOU IN FOR A SURPRISE

>>51041648
Thousand Sons.

>DON'T USE THE WARP
>Not an argument.

>>51041483
Charge it with a Leviathan Dreadnought?

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I have a question.

Book II; Massacre states that "In order to represent this diversity when it comes to Super-heavy vehicles and Flyers,
it is perfectly acceptable to use specific Imperial Super-heavy vehicles and Flyer units from Forge World's
wider Imperial Armour range such as Imperial Armour; Apocalypse or Imperial Armour Aeronautica, which do not already
have an era-specific counterpart listed in a Horus Heresy supplement".

Does this mean I can take Macharius tanks from Imperial Armour: Apocalypse in 30k? With my Space marines/Solar Auxilia/Imperial Militia?

Could I give them flare shields?

>>51041678
the redeploy allows the stormlord to move to where it is least likely to encounter such fuckery
and if its unavoidable, 8 bs3 haywire shots with 24 inch range can take care of it

>>51041684
>Does this mean I can take Macharius tanks from Imperial Armour: Apocalypse in 30k? With my Space marines/Solar Auxilia/Imperial Militia?
Yes
>Could I give them flare shields?
No

>>51041684
Yes, since they're not in anyone's Army List.

No, since you may only give it wargear that it may take and is not 40k-specific, and iirc, they don't have them to purchase.

>>51041711
8 shots, 4 hits, 2 are saved, remaining 2 are likely glances. It may still reach you since they often come in a pod.

Everyone loves Leviathans.

>>51041684
In a legion list you can take a Macharius, but I don't see how you'd be able to give them flare shields. They get most of their options in the IA book (minus any M41-specific ones) plus space marine crew.

>>51041672
>Daemons cannot be trusted, making pacts with them is objectively a bad idea
>Not an argument

>>51041672
>>51041796
>RAW vs. RAI in a nutshell

>>51041684
Maybe you should look at the book that is actually legal to use?
Like the Age of Darkness list, which has a specific list.

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>>51041790
not like i'm lacking in AT on other fronts , vanqs , basilisks, and the valdor i own
30k actually has enough people fielding vehicles that i can include these in my cookie cutter build without handicapping myself to

>>51041915
Eyyy, very nice then.

>>51041684
Sadly that rule got "updated" - there's now a list, but it does include machariuses, the list is now:
Baneblade, Banehammer, Stormlord, Shadowsword, Stormsword, any Macharius variant, any Crassus variant, Marauder Bomber or it's variants, an Avenger Strike Fighter, a Thunderbolt Fighter or a Minotaur, all of which it can be given a Marine crew, but that's it.

Personally, I wanted a Hellhammer, but that competes with the Stormsword, and kinda shits on the Typhon, so it's one of the few that's not allowed

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Is my NL coming along spooky enough?

>>51041952
thanks for mentioning it though anon , hadn't thought about them yet

>>51041995
No worries. They've super expensive and with a pod it's not much more to just get a knight, but man they can wreck shop if the drop goes well.

I'd love to field a talon of them, but that's practically 1000 points on it's own...

>>51041984
I've always thought NLs should act spooky rather than dress spooky.
Are your boys loyalists, anon?

>>51041915
That's a big gun.

>>51042048
why not both

Reading Angel Exterminatus right now, i've got a few questions

1. Is Sharrowkin a mary sue?
2. Is Thamatica a dumb idiot?
3. Is the Salamanders Apothecary the most based guy in the Sisypheum?
4. Are Salamanders in general real cool?
5. Is the guy who talks to stones in the Iron Warriors a psyker?
6. How do the Iron Warriors and the Iron Hands treat (used to treat I suppose) psykers? Did they use Librarians extensively/at all?

and finally

7. wtf i love perturabo now?

>>51035655
Based anon, thank you.

>>51042139
Yes :^)
And also yes, you do.

>>51042048

>Loyalist

Nah. I like to think of my guys as batmans loyal to Batman and less second string murderers.

>>51041537
Why do so many fan rules for Sanginuius have him be so weak? The fucker was equals with Horus.

>>51042139
1. Y
2. ?
3. Y
4. Y
5. Y
6. As a tool of war, as all other resources were used.
7. Y

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>>51041537
It's written "Seneschal"
The Wings of Victory
The Fury of Baal

>>51042226
Thamatica is the mad scientist Iron Father who tries to create a weapon of mass destruction inside a cruiser in transit in the webway

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Hey which two are the better rules pairing? As in, that makes sense and it's meaninful, but avoids being broken

Fearless + IWND
Fearless + Eternal Warrior
Fearless + FnP
IWND + FnP
Eternal Warrior + FnP
Eternal Warrior + IWND

>>51042322
Yeah but where else is he going to create it? Right in front of Perturabo or on Istvaan V? Be reasonable and pass me that screwdriver :^)