/HHG/ The Horus Heresy General

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First for Caliban.

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>>51019360
>Will the children of Chogoris claim the Vth thread?
The Kindred of the Khan are ever present!

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Remember people, it's better to have an elected leader than to avoid getting surprise buttsex'd by daemons for all eternity.

ULTRA WITHIN
ULTRA WITHOUT

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>>51019415
Yes little loli, come fight fo the glorious UM.

Is the castellum stronghold worth it? I'm looking to get a fortification(s) for my force and was looking at void shield generators, aegis defence line, and some turrets. That amount of plastic almost costs the same for both points and cost. What do?

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All those years accruing accolades Dornahld. Taking what was rightfully mine - what, you ask?
The accolades. They were, are and shall be mine.
You won't escape this, Dornahld.
My sons and I will be visiting Terra very soon, of that you can be assured.
I am the steadfast creator-primarch of the Legiones Astartes. You are but a gnat in comparison.
Build your ramparts Dornahld.
The accolades will be MINE.

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Seventh for victory.

>>51019425
Take the one you like the most. Or build your own fortifications.

Personally, I prefer one solid unified fortress, as it fits well the IW.
Bear in mind that you can probably find the plastic parts for cheaper than GW prices on ebay or 3rd party sellers, therefore making it cheaper for your wallet if that's an issue.

>>51019407
>elected
Heh, I can just imagine Horus's face if, after overthrowing the Emperor, someone came to him asking when the election will be happening.

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>>51019415
I want UM friends to join us in the Dodekatheon. I have calmed down about the whole stea- "improving upon" terminator formations.
Also, guess what I found
>The following story has been used as evidence of the role of the frumentarii: (Hadrian's) vigilance was not confined to his own household but extended to those of his friends, and by means of his private agents (frumentarios) he even pried into all their secrets, and so skilfully that they were never aware that the Emperor was acquainted with their private lives until he revealed it himself. In this connection, the insertion of an incident will not be unwelcome, showing that he found out much about his friends. The wife of a certain man wrote to her husband, complaining that he was so preoccupied by pleasures and baths that he would not return home to her, and Hadrian found this out through his private agents. And so, when the husband asked for a furlough, Hadrian reproached him with his fondness for his baths and his pleasures. Whereupon the man exclaimed: "What, did my wife write you just what she wrote to me?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frumentarii
>>51019423
>Legion Lolis
I must resist the temptations of Chaos. Unless I somehow vote for them.

>>51019455
Mortarion shows up in a cheap shabby suit and asks if the psyker genocide is gonna happen before or after elections.

>>51019596
He also want to be the Minister for Genocide and Health.

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if you don't unironically want to bring fascism into the world in real life and base your politics on wanting to make 30k real you need to leave right now libby/gommie

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>>51019624

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>>51019459

you mean like this entry here.

why would they be able to take jump packs if they couldn't join jump units?

>>51019624

It's a shame ADB is an edgelord.

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Near as I can tell, The iron fire right of war effects Ordo reductor artillery.

I know I'm a bad person, but can anyone point out an reason why an allied detachment of IW with the iron fire RoW wont boost the accuracy of 9 Mechanicum medusas

>>51019721
Because it's an IW rule maybe? Does it says "allies benefits of this rule" anywhere?

>>51019749
it just says Barrage weapons targeted within 12" of friendly iron warriors units

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>>51019676

This idiot >>51019459 just posted the outdated apothecary entry from the crusade book

Pic is the current actual apothecary entry, with details on which units it may join.

>>51019756
>Friendly iron warriors units

Hence, only IW. Not IW and allies.

>>51019756
But there is no such thing as friendly iron warriors units. Even amongst iron warriors :^)

>>51019455
I mean, there's no way Horus wouldn't get elected when you consider the rival parties. I could see Fulgrim getting elected precisely once and every other time Horus wins 98% of the vote.

How much weathering is too much on DG units?

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THE DELEGATES DOHRNALD

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It's arrived, lads

Praise Aurelian

Predator Executioners much good?

>>51019384
>when WSs get animal companions before SWs

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So lets say I have an Imperial Fists army, but I want some allies. Can I both ally in one allied detachment of Knights, and then another allied detachment of Adeptus Custodes?

Can I take more than one allied detachment basically?

>>51020147
>Implying Pert isn't Hilltillery
>Implying Curze isn't Cruz

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>>51019765
All friendly Barrage weapons trigger the ability, only IW units allow the no scatter rule. Ordo Reductor can shoot near IW units to generate counters.

So are hazard stripes a thing just to give IW players something to actually paint?

>>51020270
Why don't you look at the Force Org chart? It's not complicated.

>>51020396
eh it's fw's fault for being so unclear
personally i'dd interpret it as "only barrages of this detachment"because if you don't then every iron warrior on the table gets it, including allies if you are playing with multiple people
but it is really up for debate
definitely something you'dd have to discuss with your opponent beforehand

>>51020439
The "friendly Iron Warriors" part covers your confusion re: enemies being able to use the rules against you. Honestly it's not ambiguous at all if you read it carefully.

>>51020410
Yes, as it happens.

>>51020425
I don't have the book available cause I'm travelling, currently at the airport.

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>>51020456

>>51020446
what if i am playing with a friend using a different row and we are both playing iron warriors though ?

like i said it's written ambiguously
if we're going full on "aktshually" you could even complain that while it does specify friendly iron warriors it doesn't specify friendly barrage weapons enemy barrage weapons also fall close to friendly iron warrior units in the enemies shooting fase

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>>51020410
I read somewhere that they put stripes on the most protected parts of the armour to draw eyesight to it and hence making the enemy fire there. Something like that, sounds bullshit and would only work against shit trained soldiers.

>>51020464
Thanks

>>51020410
Yes. Kudos to anyone who can get them on a cloak that isn't lake-smooth though.

The decal sheet from FW has teeny tiny thin strips of them though, I don't know what use they'd be, possibly on the guns of Deredeos, or along the edges of things like Rhinos.

>>51020467
With the amount of confusion you have regarding rules, I highly doubt you'll ever find yourself in a situation where someone would want to ally with you.

So don't worry about it.

The correct answer however would be your ally also benefits, RAW. If you don't like it, write in to FW and have them answer your questions.

>>51020493
>What is Micro Sol and Micro Set?

>>51020467
Are the Iron Warrior units friendly to your opponent? No? Then they don't trigger any abilities from Ironfire. Why is this confusing?

>>51020546
Funny enough, Enemy IW models can get fearless from Ironfire counters.

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>>51020525
No, I'm talking about making the cloak like it's made with yellow and black lines (or even better, chevrons) built into the cloak's material.

The hazard lines on FW's sheet are thin rectangular lines two centimetres wide at most but almost the length of an A4 page's width. Go look at the Iron Warriors transfer sheet on FW's page to see what I mean, they're at the bottom of the sheet. They wouldn't look good on a cloak.

Do you have any brand recommendations about micro sol and micro set by the way?
And colour recommendations for a cloak for this guy in Iron Warrior colours? I'm thinking black on the outside, red or pale grey on the inside.

>>51020516
i'm merely demonstrating that the text is open for multiple interpretations
i have no problems finding allies and opponents cause i actually ask questions about stuff which i am unsure about , and because i don't jump to insults as quickly as you do
since you're going RAW it also doesn't specify friendly iron warriors become fearless
RAW there is no difference between friendly and enemy ironfire counters if you are playing against iron warriors as well

all of these issues can be simply resolved by saying the row only applies to your man detachment
since you don't believe this is the case you'dd better discuss the full effects of your detachment with your opponent beforehand

>>51020576
Hazard stripes would only look good on a cloak as trim. I'd go dark red for the cloak and add hazard stripe trim at the bottom of the cloak.

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>>51020564
>shoot enemy IW with artillery
>they enjoy it so much they become fearless

>>51020586
The rules aren't confusing. You just find them confusing because they're not conforming to your expectations.

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What legion is the most NatSoc, /hhg/?

Imperial Fists?

Templars are the SS, IF have got a similar Kantian and stoic outlook desu.

>>51020619
Edge Lords.

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>>51020576

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>>51020590
Do you mean at the hem of the cloak? Is it supposed to look like it's dyed into the same material as the cloak? Or is it supposed to be an added layer of cloth sewed onto the edge of the red cloth?

Interesting colour choice, I might consider it.

>>51020619
I don't know if it's correct to call Nazism big on Kantianism, but that's a different question.

That question was asked and it was all Imperial Fists, Iron Warriors, and Word Bearers.
An Imperial Fist and a Word Bearer argued a bit because the Fist wasn't racist enough, IIRC.

>>51020643
Anywhere that can be gotten in the UK?
Any competitors that do it as good? Don't tamiya do something like that?

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>>51020615
read the row restrictions
"detachments using this rite of war"
as far as i can tell allied detachments are not part of the rite of war because of this
can i take night lord terror squads as troop choices in my militia allied detachment because RAW the terror assault rite of war says i can ?
99% of people will say i can't and i'dd agree with them
the rules are not written clearly enough to banish all discussion on the matter good arguments can be made for and against the barrage weapons of allies having the rite of war or not and until we get a definitive clarification from forge world the proper thing to do is discuss it with your opponent

>>51020564
Is that really so out there?

>>51020739
Mr. Hobby does decal softener.

>>51020739
>Anywhere that can be gotten in the UK?
>Any competitors that do it as good? Don't tamiya do something like that?
You could call those two somewhat of an industry standard. So it gets imported everywhere, it's available on Amazon.co.uk if you like.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=microsol

>>51020763
>>51020785
Ok, thanks.
I'm not the greatest decal user, I'll admit. These will probably be of use.

>>51020599
Kek

>>51020619
Ultramarines.

>>51020619
The WB, they did everything wrong, yet their supporters will claim the opposite.

>>51020874

Hey reddit

>>51020874
>Word Bearers discover the truth
>Imperium cover it up to this day

>>51020927
>Word Bearers discover the truth
Cosmic space emotion leaches =/= Gods.

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>>51020874
>Calth didn't happen but it should and it will.

>Have you read the Book of Lorgar? It's available on warp-tube in a six-year audiobook format. Listen to that before you tell me some smurfpilled shit about the Imperial Truth, and Imperial-falsified "historical records", mmkay?
>Never forget the six trillion Monarchians.

>>51020903
>>51020927
I knew I'd trigger /pol/. You guys are so easy.

>The truth
The "truth" chaos offer consists of eternal damnation, it's not exactly a good truth.

Do you go around and whine about how we don't teach kids how to make bomhs or use gund? We hide this "truth" from them to avoid having little children huring or killing themselves and others.

Exactly the same way Empy decided to not talk aboit chaos to the population.

>>51020987
t.reddit

>>51020981
>It's available on warp-tube in a six-year audiobook format
Totally not a Word Bearer here, but I'd pay a lot to listen to Lorgar's golden voice lecture me on my pathetic belief in mankind for 6 years straight

>>51020987
>I knew I'd trigger /pol/. You guys are so easy.

>A response is a trigger.

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>>51020987
>We hide this "truth" from them to avoid having little children huring or killing themselves and others.

Kids are taught all about guns and violence through "entertainment" media.
And in schools kids in grade school are routinely traumatised with Holocaust (dare I say it) propaganda*, and taught fuller truths about sex than most adult humans knew for all of human history for most of history, at increasingly younger ages.

*That word refers to the purpose of it, not making any "value judgements" necessarily on the truth of the events one way or another. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the "we don't teach people disturbing truths that would warp them" attitude. Particularly when people in 30k would absolutely NEED to know about the dangers of the warp, and filling toddlers' heads with images of mass murder for political reasons is not necessary.

>>51021010
>mfw I would be going "not an argument" in my head for six years straight

>>51021026
"Trigger" and "fanboy" are meaningless words now.

>you disagreed with my good review?
>Butthurt fanboy!

>you disagreed with my bad review?
>Butthurt fanboy!

You guys reminded me about how there's always a totally-not-a-fan-of-nazis-honest in the shop community.
>the intense guy who keeps making 'joking' remarks about how great the nazis were and who's always overly friendly to the new kids while talking to them about the positives of space fascism.
>the muh nordic celtic ancestuhz guy, who'll get in long conversations about northern european culture with the not-nazi despite knowing hardly anything about it, and who forces being happy at all times, the mask only slipping when some rando comes into the shop with their gf.
>the permo-distracted weeb who's perfectly happy stroking the long barrels of their Tau models and chuckling to themselves and who stays out of most conversation unless it gives them an opportunity to say something they think is insightful and witty, which everyone else invariably finds confusing and irrelevant.
>the guy who just paints. Yeah, him. You'd forgotten about him.
>the stuck-up suck-up with the voice, he's always talking to the staff and throwing the odd glance at others to make sure he knows they know he's talking to the staff with an air of authority
>the normal guy who comes in to buy a load of stuff at once, sometimes with his gf following along behind him like an eye-magnet, who's all smiles to everyone that talks to him, but there's an edge in his voice and a glimmer in his eye of being on the cusp of panic in case any of his normal friends find out about his addiction
>the loud, smelly ones in their black graphic print tops who the concepts of manners, fashion and hygiene passed by once, but didn't stop to talk. You get some of their names mixed up and debate whether playing the nazi, the no-hoper or one of the kids dropped off by their parents might be better.

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>>51021085

The warp is good tho

BASED PANTHEON
BASED LORGAR
BASED WORD BEARERS

Holy synergy with the Empyrean, WHEN?!

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>>51021108
Every fascist/nazi loves 40k/30k, and there is literally nothing wrong with this. Nothing at all.

>>51021108
Jesus Christ that's too accurate.

>>51021108
Damn son.

Does the "northern brothers" guy place Space Wolves?

>>51021108
Feels weird to be one the socially adjusted dudes whenever I go to the shop. At least the owner and the employee are massive bros while not being spergs.

>>51021108
You forgot the highly religious 14 year old who cracks gay innuendo with absolutely everyone.

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Battlefleet Gothic for Heresy-Era battles when?

>>51021186
That or Guard.

>>51021300
Adeptus Titanicus this year, so maybe next year?

>>51021203
Normies will take over the hobby.

Betas will have no safe spaces left.

>>51021300
>>51021336
>inb4 FW ups the scale so that battleships are warlord sized

>>51021374
Good.

They will either adapt and better themselves like I did or wither and die.

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>>51021403
Agreed.

Decimation is the only way.

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>>51021427
Oh me, oh my. I never looked at it this way. Truely, I am a son of the IVth, my lucky number.

>mfw I picture a nerds fight to see who will become a more socially acceptable person

Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>51021427
To be clear, 1s are decimated, not 10s

>>51020187
That's a nice t-shirt, anon.
Arrived from where to where?
>>51020257
Anon, they have rules already. Cyber-hawks remember?

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>>51020576
You mean like this?

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>51021427
>>51021492
Rolling to survive.

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>>51021528
Yes, that's what I was talking about.

Just read the short story with him in it a few days ago. It was great.

"It WILL fall..."

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>51021535
Fuck. Doesn't count cos D6 instead of 10.

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>51021427
let's see if I can make it

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>51021427
I just woke up but fuck it, let's roll.

>>51021160
What Legion would Mosley be in?

>>51021766
Thousand Sons.

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>>51021427
Legit question: Do I get to fight back? I'm not goint down without a fight.

Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>51021427
Now the Mechanicum are doing it. I knew I shouldnt have allied the Bitter Boys in....

>>51021766
https://youtu.be/d1ltSopNPX0

the coziest one

>>51021783
Knowing Perty I'm pretty sure if anyone tried that he'd decimate them on a unit-by-unit basis rather than individually.

Plus the marines wouldn't have bothered - it would have violated their honour (go join the Night Lords if insubordination is your thing), and Guilliman asked the Emperor to stop this but the Emperor didn't give a fuck. If the Emperor is going to support you getting randomly murdered for no reason, you have no hope of going anywhere, except throwing your lot in with Eldar raiders or going further out into the edge of the galaxy than the Imperium can find you.

I like to imagine that at the very least Guilliman accepted Iron Warriors refugees from based subcommanders who reported them "dead" to Perturabo.

>>51021427
I don't fear decimation, for I am a true son of the Legion!

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What was his fucking problem?

>>51021850
Not exactly killing the others and fleeing, but if one dude manages to kil 9 other dudes, I'd be willing to let him live and serve some more.

Plus, getting beaten to death without even resisting is really a shitty way to go.

>>51021870
Autism.

>>51021876
>I'd be willing to let him live and serve some more
Maybe you would, Curze, but Perturabo would hate disobedience and almost certainly view it as inefficient.

>>51021876
Being chosen to die for penitence for your Legion's disgrace, in the place of other battlebrothers, is a noble sacrifice. You don't fight back, you face your death with nobility and honour.

>>51021870
The Emperor gave him a face like a potato while the others got to be handsome.

>>51021924
Alpharius has a potato-face though.
So do Lorgar and Horus to some extent too.

>>51021909
>Nobility
>Honour

There's little honour in dying because others fucked up. At least they get a chance to prove their above the comon legionnaire if they succeed.

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>Oh sweet, a HH thread
>Half the posts are literally just circlejerking to nazis

Hey guys, remember when /tg/ was about traditional games?

>>51021972
Well I applied for Janitor but didn't get through the first stage. Blame the admins. I actually spent more time and good will on this application than I did for some law firms internships.

>>51021946
>There's little honour in dying because others fucked up.
From Pert's point of view he was trying to prevent that. And the disloyal (to him) are what he wanted in his legion least of all.

>>51021972
Keep reddit in reddit m8.
Besides, discussing fascist themes in warhammer is on-topic.

>>51021992
That's probably because you came off sounding like a little faggot. Like now.

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>>51021850
>go join the Night Lords if insubordination is your thing
Yuck.
I like productiveNL guy and I like The Eight, but the Nostraman NL are near WB tier.

>>51022015
Screw you buddy, at least I tried to make the board a better place.
That and uploading pdf versions of books.

What have you done to make /tg/ a better place?

>>51022029
Where does that happen?

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Is there a Primarch more memeable than Perty?

>>51022036
I post as a GM in the game finder threads. Get wrecked cunt.

>>51022053
Alpharius, but he's dead.

>>51021946
You have just recovered your gene-father, the lord from whence your Astartes ascendence originates. He is more of a father to you than your mortal, biological one; one that you have been emotionally traumatised to have absent, and he is found. He tells you and your brothers that your service has been unacceptable, your conquests not up to his exacting standards. As a loyal warrior of the IV Legion, despite the great sorrow this places on your heart, you accept the punishment he issues. It will be one of your closest kinsmen or you, and if it is you, you will not react like a child bawling over fate. You will not impotently lash out and attempt to harm the brothers through no will of their own have been ordered to mete out the decimation that shall be enacted on you. What serves the Great Crusade by pursuing your own cowardly, animal will to live? Your father's word is law. You are of the Legiones Astartes, duty and order is paramount - the finest specimens of Human genetic material in the galaxy. To die in spiritual supplication to the Primarch's will, the Primarch progenitor that has fathered you, the Primarch you thought lost in the vast black sea of space, the liege you owe everything to, is nothing. Eternity awaits mankind regardless of whether you as an individual perish. What difference is there, if you fall to a brother's lash than to a xeno's bio-blade?

Iron Within, Iron Without. Hail Death.

>>51022068
Do you ever follow up though?

Do the marines in BoP come on 28mm or 32mm bases?

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>>51022009
>lol calling out /pol/ for off topic shitposting belongs on le reddit xd

We're not talking about fascism in warhammer ITT, we're just talking about how 'guys how great is it to be irl fascist' and 'guys everyone on /tg/ who doesn't want to stat Benito Mussolini as a space marine captain is an SJW infiltrator from 9reddit.tumblr'. In a HH thread.

Post HH related material or stop shitting up the thread already.

>On that note

Ragdan Xenocide fluff when?

>>51022098
Yes. Nice autism kiddo.

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>>51022074
Don't be so sure.

>>51022099
32mm

>>51022107
I agree that that kind of shite when it occurs (I don't think it did) needs purging.

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>>51022047
HH2 NL exemplary battle, where when ambushed by ork Spacey Hulks the NL, knowing they have nothing on people with actuall balls or lack of self-preservation decide to fucking scurry away.
Which isn't such a wrong move if you put some reasoning into it and especially if you compare it to the IW's nearly-autistic Until The Bitter End tendencies.
In that NL commander's own words "I wasn't going to comit to a battle I had no chance of winning", but still they are fucking cowards, and I wish Curze had been in Corax's place at Gate 42.

>>51022116
dude, Laurie Goldberg said so, lmoa

>>51022068
Aww I too wanted to be a 4chan janitor.
How did you get the position? I want to Make /tg/ Great Again

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>>51022092
>You have just recovered your gene-father, the lord from whence your Astartes ascendence originates.

I didn't vote for him though! He's a Tyrant!

>>51022029
I like how it's impossible to say whether or not the NL were worse than the WB as armies/space marines.

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>>51019707

>>51022251
I'd say both were shit as proper armies, compared to the other legions.
But pop a company or two on a human populated world that needs to get back in the Imperial fold, and they're probably the ones that can do it with the smallest amount of losses.

>>51022288
WB was a decent army pre-heresy, they just took their time and didn't relish a heavy fight.

Nobody is NL tier.

WB get decent results (in terms of saving what can be saved) but few and far between in terms of numbers, whereas Alpha Legion can do practically anything but are all over the place in terms of what the cost or efficiency is.

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>>51022341
Man, you need to stop, it's not funny I'm afraid.

>>51022339
>WB was a decent army pre-heresy
they were a terrible army pre-heresy, that's why the emperor had to bap lorgar on the nose with some newspaper

>>51022341
Yeah, what that other anon said. If you have to force a meme this much without it taking, it's probably a shitty meme.

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>>51022367
>>51022395

No.

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>>51022341
>>51022367
>>51022395
I think it's pretty good.
Maybe you guys didn't like the original Ted Cruz posting but I did, and this is a nice meme confluence desu.

>>51022373
>dammit Lorgar why do you keep making all these hyper-loyal utopias that preserve the unique human cultures of Old Night as far as possible
>all I want from you is smoking ruins and charred corpses upon which I can transplant identical mass-produced dystopian societies

>tfw the worlds Lorgar conquered are probably the shrine worlds that anchor the faith of the 40k Imperial Church and the Imperium as a whole

>>51022424
This artstyle is shit desu. Why don't they employ Adrian Smith and the other good artists to make BL novel covers?

>>51022341
This is nice too.

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>>51022339
>WB conquers less worlds than any other legion with equivalent resources and time.
>The worlds they conquered are useless to the pre-Heresy Imperium because WB made sure they explicitly disbelieved in the Imperial Truth before they left.
>When told to actually do their job, the WB immediately turn traitor. Instead of, you know, listening to the guy who they respected enough to literally believe he was a god.

Best legion 10/10.

>>51022339
I wouldn't be so eager to say the WB were that good pre-heresy, but I won't deny they left in their wake functioning worlds (fucking slow however) and became Dark Compliance UM-equivalents after their pilgrimage.
But NL did root out all rebellion and delivered worlds with remarkably low casualties, albeit with extremely unpleasant censure-prone methods.
>>51022251
Kek
>>51022341
What's this anyway? I don't remember all the campaign.

>>51022454
>But NL did root out all rebellion and delivered worlds with remarkably low casualties, albeit with extremely unpleasant censure-prone methods.

I always wonder how that worked.

>surrender to us or we're going to drop-pod eight-feet tall evil supermen wearing spooky skeleton armour into all your preschools
>woah you're those guys who skinned some preschoolers alive on that other planet, I'm going to surrender because the guys who bomb our cities into radioactive paste and never run away from anything are much less threatening

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>>51022447
>This artstyle is shit desu
>This is nice too
Shit taste all along the watchtower :^)
Back to the Iron Glove with you.

30K just is superior to 40K, I can't enjoy 40K comparatively because 30K has a coherent plot and serious lore that gels well together. 40K is just a mess; all the legions, particularly traitor, are very poorly characterized and 2D. Forgeworld and dare I say it, BL, has done a good job in making a greater product.

>>51022516
Skub: The Post

>>51022439
>that preserve the unique human cultures
No, Lorgar's mission statement was to completely eradicate any culture that wasn't strictly adherent to his warped beliefs, and spent most of his time brutalizing and indoctrinating conquered peoples.

All of that on top of being real fuckin' slow.

>>51022482
There's a quote frol Curze about how people will go against you if you kill a million of them, but kill one man in such a gridly manner that everyone start watjing over his shoulder, and you quickly have compliance. The full quote makes sense honestly.

>>51022482
>>surrender to us or we're going to drop-pod eight-feet tall evil supermen wearing spooky skeleton armour into all your preschools
That's where you're a bit mistaken, anon.
Thing is quite often nobody would call them...yet they would arrive and go full terror on them, with one message
"This is what happens to non-compliants"
And whole systems would surrender without protracted sieges or the need of complex plans. Just pants shitting terror.
But they didn't believe in second-hand fear...so to those newly surrendered worlds they would go and do the same to one of their cities, just so they would really know, for sure, what non-compliance and rebellion would mean.

That was Compliance for Night Lords.

>>51022565
See, this is exactly why lorgar and rowboat wrote books.

>>51022581
Ah, so Angron except with a point besides "killing is fun". "Having people fear you is fun".

>>51022565
Ah, so like Alpharius except without a point. Or with one.

>>51022581
That doesn't fucking work.
>surrender to spookymen
>they attack anyway
>welp, might as well fight afterall

>>51022516
I was fine with everything until you mentioned BL.

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>>51022561
>that preserve the unique human cultures
>Lorgar's mission statement:

Space: the final frontier. These are the crusades of the starship Fidelitas Lex. Its two-hundred year mission: to conquer strange new worlds, to seek out human life and human civilizations, to boldly preach where no man has gone before.

>>51022627
But fight what?

The whole point of the NL is that they don't fight what they can't win.

They'll just kill a few of your dudes in a gruesome manner and then go back to the shadows.

Think Gurkhas against djihadiis, but worse. At some point you're so scared of dying without being able to do anything like Mohammad, Abdul and Mouloud did, you just surrender and beg for the skinnings to stop, because you can't do anything to stop them except beg the wider Imperium to accept you back into the fold.

>>51022627
You won´t get it, will you?

Surrender: Loose a city to take us serious and see we´re the real shit

Fight: Loose much, much, much......more.

>>51022627
>>welp, might as well fight afterall
Would you?! You have been presented with an oportunity to keep the spoopy lightning men away, it's called "Pay your taxes"
Or else they will return, and do to your whole system what they did to that city, but worse.

What reasons would there be for a loyalist Night Lord force?

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>>51022661
>Think Gurkhas against djihadiis, but worse.
Gurkhas are fortifying this position.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393355/Hero-Gurkha-handed-bravery-medal-Queen-said-I-thought-I-going-die--I-tried-kill-I-could.html

>you just surrender and beg for the skinnings to stop
Gurkhas don't do that though. Certainly not when the enemy is alive.

>>51022667
So Curze is Negan?

>>51022693
>listen, everone, I'm not in charge anymore, the Emprah is

>>51022712
You believe in justice and retribution and the Night Haunter is fucking insane, your brothers are weak as they remain by his side as he loses his mind, its time to bail out and fight for justice!.

>>51022667
>>51022693
No you idiots. If you surrender, and they attack a city anyway, that surrender agreement is pretty much void. You wouldn't just think "huh, they murdered everyone in that city, oh well, I'm sure they won't do it again". People surrender to make sure so they WON'T get attacked any more.

Duncan on toxic bases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na26t36C7X4

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>>51022712
Because you aren't a dumb insane NL hobo that gets off from fear "just because".
You aren't misguided vengeance, but righteous retribution.
You are no lord of the night
You are the Eight.

>>51022784
>Stirland battlemire

Is this a new thing? Didn't it use to be Stirland mud?

~t. Astrogranite user

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>>51022764
>that surrender agreement is pretty much void.
Kek, who said you had any sort of opinion in any sort of "agreement", mortal?
For you that was warfare, but for the Night Lords that was merely the Compliance NOTICE.

>>51022831
They released a bunch of variants on those texture paints, some finer, some coarser than the standard version.

>>51022871
>fucking wizards changing gravity again

>>51022871
Looking very good. Thin your paints a little more though, it's a bit noticeable on Ahriman's faceplate. other than that nice colouring and brush control, the dots on the chest scarab are very good too.

>>51022849
I don't remember Jools Holland being in the heresy.

So the worlds surrender (a diplomatic agreement) but there's no actual agreement. I'm so confused. It's almost like the night lords were a bunch of hypocrites who just wanted an excuse to murder people or something.

>>51022799
I never understood why the Crimson Sons are often used as an example of loyalist NL.

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>>51022915

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>>51021119
>shit bearers
>based

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>>51022915
>So the worlds surrender (a diplomatic agreement) but there's no actual agreement.
Astartes fight, the IM brokers diplomatic agreements.
It's not unheard of, really.
Russ would kill libraries from compliant books because he didn't like books.
The early Eight weren't even called for compliance, only for retribution
Sanguinius wasn't above exterminating a whole cluster's civilians alongside their military forces.
Ferrus Manus rejected Gaardinal's surrender until they killed off the former governing body, and the Ultramarines were there too.
Mortarion rejected Galaspar's surrender on the same terms, and oncethe Dusk Raiders comitted to a fight they would not accept pleas for surrender.
The War Hounds left no survivors.

Meanwhile, Horus accepted an elected System representative's surrender, and not too long he betrayed compliance and Horus chopped his head off and presented the gold-dipped skull to the Emperor, "so perish all traitors" engraved in the forehead.

So much for Peace Treaties.
But Blood, Blood is Forever (actual Blood Angel motto)

>>51022938
Well I'm pretty much the only guy who ever posts them. They're Terran and served under a dude forgiven by the Emperor early on, so that could be a factor.

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>>51023117

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>>51023117
>Shit Angels
>Emperor's Shits
>Shit Warriors
>White Shits/Shit Scars
>Shit Wolves
>Imperial Shits
>Shit Lords
>Blood Shits
>Iron Shits
>Shit Eaters
>Ultrashits/Shitmarines
>Shit Guard
>Thousand Shits
>Shits of Horus
>Shit Bearers
>Shitamanders
>Raven Shits
>Shit Legion

>>51023155
TheDayOfRevelation.jpg

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>>51023199
I knew I could summon you again if I tried real hard

>>51023248
Why is that Lorgar and not Fulgrim?

>>51023248
>real hard
Pfft don't be silly.
Anyone merely utters the word "Calth" and /HHG/ suddenly becomes a more autistic version of HH5.
So much for "trying hard"
>>51023236
>White shit
>Blood shit
Aaaaw damn
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=white%20shit

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Best primarch coming through!

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>>51023301
Shhhh sh sh sh
Sh
Go make compliance, XVIIth y déjate de mamadas.

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Finally back to my Epic Contemptors project. One-third done.

Let's just say when the WS heard about this team being assembled they held a race, and the loser got 'noughted. (Kidding - he's Terran. The Asiatic hives are as claustrophobic as any.)

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>>51023301
Sorry, posted wrong pic.

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Just how can ultrabois even compete?

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>>51023323
Ah, my only sane child.
I hope you wouldn't willingly give yourself to the Daemons in order to prevent me from finding about some %-wise rare-as-shit genetic ailment or something! ;^)

>>51023386
>he loved his legion so much he would die to save them all

Seems good to me.

>>51023260
Because Fulgrim would unabashedly proclaim that he is, in fact, winning.

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>>51023364
I know.
Sure Guilliman may have been an Empire builder and whatever, but even he lacked the core concept of the whole thing.
He lacked zeal, he was more focused on building than crusading, but it's alright.
Someone has to build while you crusade, am I right?
That's why I like Dorn, whom loved the Crusade and had zeal like no other.
Oh you were talking about competing with Lorgar? You're so funny!

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FEELING EXEMPLARY TODAY, WORD BEARERS?

Daily Reminder that Inferno will be delayed.

>>51023462
You aren't allowed to talk if you are in the corner anon.

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LITTLE ULTRAMAR DICKS

BIG COLCHISIAN COCK

>>51023364
>w-we were just playing the long w-war
ultramarines have competitors (and potential superiors) in their fellow loyalist legions, but the chaos marines ain't shit

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>>51023475
>anyone thinks they can compete with Dorn's Caestus

>>51023440
>Dorn
>Just builds walls

>Guilliman
>Liberates most worlds
>Builds everything, including walls

Fists can't compete.

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>>51021427
Alright lets do this

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>>51023475
>OOGA BOOGA MUH DIK

more like

LITTLE WORD BEARER PLANET

BIG ULTRAMARINE EMPIRE

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>>51023491
>>51023460
>>51023440
>all dese mad little bluebois

lmaoing at ur lives bitch niggas smdh

>eenie weenie ultra gladius peenie
>BIG WORD BEARER ILLUMINARUM

I thought tsons and space yiffs were the worst.

Ultrafags and Wordfags are the worst.

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>>51023565
>>BIG WORD BEARER ILLUMINARUM
You know that was a gift from Ferrus, right? What can you expect from someone who has severe memory issues.
God I'm laughing now.

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>>51023519
>Lorgar
>most famous for writing a book
>corrupts and enslaves fellow Primarchs to his vision which goes against that of the Emprah

>Guilliman
>most famous for writing a book
>???

>>51023582
I'm sure everyone will be singing a different tune come february.

>>51021119
If the warp is so good, then why is Khur a dead world while Calth still thrives?
Checkmate worst bearers.

>>51020753
Now you're just grasping at straws.

>>51023582
I like the in-universe bantz. Everyone seems to get really into it in a way that's rare within fanbases.

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>>51023597
>>51023536
>>51023622

words aint the only thing lorgar's sons' bear feel me ultraboi? *shakes BWBC*

now felch out the warp energy out of calth

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>>51023565
ultramarines are the current best space marine chapter

word beaers are where?

HAVE YOU PAYED HOMAGE TO YOUR SPIRITUAL LIEGE TODAY?

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>>51023519
Anon, come on. He fortified worlds, it wasn't just walls.
>>51023503
I like to think I inspired something greater than me.

>>51023612
>corrupts and enslaves fellow Primarchs to his vision
wouldn't that be Erebus or Kor Phaeron doing that?

>>51023649
>I like to think I inspired something greater than me.
You're like a meme primarch.

>>51023612
reminder guilliman and lorgar are the true winners of the horus heresy

>>51023649
>Anon, come on. He fortified worlds, it wasn't just walls.

very true carry on brother

>>51022871
First time I've seen anyone paint up the SW character. I've seen like 10 Ahrimans though between here and /wip/.

It looks good with toned down hair.

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>>51023601
Muh diiiiiiiiiick.
>>51023582
This.
BaCk in the day people said IW & IF were the worst, but frankly we enjoyed it.
Now UM vs WB, well I assume they enjoy it while we eat popcorn.
But >>51023615 may be right. I have yet to know who enjoys TS vs SW mudfights.
If it was at least femarchs...

>>51023691
>First time I've seen anyone paint up the SW character.

Because no one cares about Gaygor Faphand.

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>>51023684
Memarch
I try :^)

>>51023702
>If it was at least femarchs...
waifu autism isn't any better than regular autism

Who is Alpharius' and the AL's rival again?

>>51023758
Omegon and the AL.

>>51023758
Alpharius sits in his room listening to Linkin Park and posting memes with his fellow anons.
He pretends to hate everything and be above it all but really he's a tryhard who resents big brothers Guilliman and Dorn for telling him to tone it down and giving him good but boring advice.

Once the Heresy starts everything goes crazy though, and it's hard to understand him.

>>51023758
The AL.
And all loyalists, really, except maybe the Sallies. But mainly the AL.
And the BL.
Fuck French and fuck that Ianius bullshit.

>>51023758
The AL

I'm genuinely attached to a story character built on a mass production line of little plastic/resin toys. I am a slave, emotionally and mentally, to a board of Jews who rule GW and FW. I froth at the mouth whenever my space fantasy daddy and his gene-children are criticized.

>>51023805
Wow, (You)'re such a cool dude anon.

>>51023805
>I froth at the mouth whenever my space fantasy daddy and his gene-children are criticized.
my space fantasy daddy >>>other space fantasy daddies >>>shit >>>>>>>>your space fantasy daddy :^)

>>51023601
Is the limited edition literally sheathed in iron? If not, it should be.

>>51023758
everyone else

the only thing they really cared about was proving they were the best at everything ever

So if they eventually give the Loyalist Mechanicum a Primarch-like character, who do you think it will be and what tricks would they have? I kind of want unique Lord Of War rules for the Land's Raider, just to see how FW would handle a Primarch-classs unique vehicle.

On the other hand, what would Kelbor Hal do if they ever made rules for him? I kind of want him to make his robots into Daemons, but that really wouldn't do much.

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>>51023636
>words aint the only thing lorgar's sons' bear feel me ultraboi?

yep you also bear the colossal failure of your primarch as a son of the emperor

>>51023805
>no fun allowed

>>51023758
Girlyman.

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>>51021427
I got faith, Iron Faggot.
Do you?

>>51023901
>colossal failure of your primarch

This seems projection? Who is in a stasis tomb as some kind of cripple and who is a BASED daemon primarch?

>>51019431
Hilarious

Simply brilliant.

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>>51023758
Dorn.

>>51023874
>limited edition literally sheathed in iron
And here I only had a single IW boner pic.
I remember Lorgar gifted to his brothers a copy of his book.
Was Perturabo's copy sheated in steel? Alpharius had two copies made out of human skin IIRC

>>51023864
I like your style fellow member of the First Legion.

We would never go traitor, for we know the Emperor makes mistakes. He made 19 of them after us, after all.

>>51023971
>>51023877
>>51023916
AL rival question cannot reach a consensus and there is confusion on the issue...

wow really made me thingk

>>51023901
My fucking sides!

>>51023805
FERRUS WAS FOREVER YOUNG!!!

>>51023951
>Who is in a stasis tomb as some kind of cripple
the man who rebuild the imperium and almost died defending it

>and who is a BASED daemon primarch?
I dunno maybe magnus

>>51023901

Facebook/tumblr memes need to be banned. Awful anon.

>>51024035
>>51024034
>>51023641
>>51023565


do you have any models or are you here just to shitpost

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>>51023503
>Anyone thinks Dorn isn't pleb-tier.

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>>51024015
Thing is, no one cared enough about the alpha legion to be considered their rivals. They just criticized their methods as grandstanding.

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>>51024035
>a loser who died to a dildo snake daemon
>a zero-to-hero near-god of the warp whose legion still operates cohesively

B A S E D

A

S

E

D

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>>51024095
>Perturabo tries to prove himself to have better offensive siegecraft than Dorn is at defensive siegecraft
>fails epically despite having four more legions behind him than Dorn
>Perty then tries to prove himself better at defensive siegecraft
>Dorn then proves himself to be better at Perturabo's own specialty by taking the fort without regard to the cost
>Perty plays the "I was only pretending to build an impenetrable fortress trick"
>Guilliman swoops in and uses his control of the historiography and "Imperium Secundus" to threaten Dorn with a second civil war if he doesn't accept the history that denigrates him

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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>>51024046
>>51024080
because (you) are really contributing to this thread

heres one on the house
(you)

>>51024080

Not that anon, but

> do you have any models

Does anyone? I've seen the same DG and NL posted for months now, and before that it was Knight Anon's...Imperial Warriors.

> or are you here just to shitpost

/HHG/ has been a ground zero for memes and shitposting since its inception. Ride its tides and hope that more people start painting shit in the future (myself included, I've only posted some greenstuff work, since it's way too cold to prime anything).

>>51024080
Actually I just picked up a Nephilim/Dark Talon to use as a Primaris-Lightning in my DA army, but until we get our full rules I can only do so much for the force.

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>>51024142
>the statesman who lost a fight to a deamon primarch
vs
>guy who is known for ruining everything for everyone at anypoint in time

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>>51024095
We have moved past that point, anon. We have accepted them.
>IWinos for Dorn

>>51024202
>the bitch sissy who got anally raped by slaanesh's top shemale xon so hard his primarch frame has a whole big enough to house his entire life support systems
vs
>guy who delivers mankind to the primordial truth and is the species' saviour and wields the power of the warp and is BASED

fixed

>>51024080
>do you have any models or are you here just to shitpost

I own an entire army and ive posted pictures in the past. If you dont like shitposting you might want to find a new place to hang out on the internet

>>51024289

post piccies

>>51024307
you first :^)

>>51023632
nice rebuttal

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>>51024133
>tfw High command tells you you are this week Alpharius but you want it to be a time to remember so you go full regalia and become his helmet.

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>>51024348
>>51024385
Fuck you both :^)
You can post autismo, but you must post memes too, so pay up.

>>51024444
boi ive posted enough memes in this thread already

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The fuck does he have in his chest pocket and how does he pick it out with those fingers?

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>>51024271
>guy who's greatest achievement was somebody else getting shit done and was so shit his real father didn't like him, only got made a daemon because everyone else did and it would have been awkward not to.

vs

>Legit perfect Primarch that was so good the Emperor put his own sign on him just to say "that's me, that's my boy and I'm like him" and was so in demand that the Chaos Gods threw swords and daemonhood just to get him on side

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>>51024472

>>51024467
Uhu, I reckon you store them "enough memes" right on top of your "enough dakka", right? :^)
>tfw I cannot post the Enough Dakka webm because /tg/ accepts no audio for some obscure reason.
>>51024494
kek

>>51024518
I even posted OC!

some meme connoisseur you are

>>51024481
>word bearer who was best

vs

>bitch sissy ultracuck who sucks (warp cummies out of a BEARED.com ravaged world)

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>>51024015
Well they may have fucked up with the WS, SW, Fists (and fucked back in return) and even with Horus and themselves, but some(?) would(n't) (dis)agree their main enemies were the Ultramarines, mainly because Alpharius' divergent ways of warfare put him at odds with Guilliman's

>>51024580
hes talking about fulgrim you fool

goes to show wordbearers are really as dumb as everyone says. Go stand in front of IW artillery its more suiting for you.

>>51024621
>word bearer who is good

vs

>ultramarine who is bad

btfo

>>51024179
I'm too scared to post my work anon

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Just how can Ultralosers recover? Why are Ultramarines complete failures?

>>51024656
ok you got me there looks like im a #beareroftheword now

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>>51024494

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Jesus Christ why don't Ultramarines just offer their women up to the superior BWBC right now?

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>>51024572
I think I'm not explaining it correctly.
Even OCs can only pay up for so many posts. Even I, author of Ferrus edits, annoyed Leviathan & Imperator, Donghunters, To Be Continueds, chainshovels, a shitton of IW memes and source of pretty much all HH-book screencaps and former namefag :^/ would still need to post images so that my discussion is valid.
It's a tax on autism, that's what it is :^)
I mean, discussions that go nowhere (because that's the truth) can still be a source of happy images.
Don't you want to make /tg/ great again?

>>51020937
But anon, you MAY ASWELL call them gods

>>51024678
>>51024736
Because all women know deep in their Hearts that Roboute is their spiritual liege

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>>51024783
Or devils. Or daemons.
Srsly why would you want to give yourself to them, in any concievable scenario?
Not even them want to give themselves to you!

>>51024818
In all seriousness, did the primarchs ever bang?

I know Sanguinius was getting hit on by a psyker, but other than that I can't think of anything.

>>51024818
You're making it worse for yourself, Remus. Do they think about that while they're taken by the XVII's stallions? What does Guilliman think about that while he's watching?

>>51024849
Does Fulgrim's necro-sado-sodomization + food fetish counts?

>>51024852 (You)

>"Theoretical: it hurts so bad, what would daddy E think of me watching this?" Thought Guilliman, musing on the Daemon-infested monsters defiling his pure Ultramaidens.
>"Practical: IT FEELS SO GOOD HNNNGH BWBC BWCB!!!"

Really, Abnett?

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>>51024849
fulgrim was probably the only one who bothered
daemon-possessed everyone else may have also tried, but mostly because they were controlled/corrupted by daemonic powers than their own desires

The loyalists are all noble, stoic and dedicated to their tasks, which would probably only make them more desirable.

>>51024736
>>51024906
>>51024852
>worst bearers only argument is "muh dick"
i thought the sallies were supposed to be the nigger marines

>>51024905
>Does Fulgrim's necro-sado-sodomization + food fetish counts?

Wat

>>51024852
>>51024906
>>51024935
Is this what WB think when they're taken by chaos spawn. Since they can't get any other action?

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>>51024959
#SayNoToBlueBoys

insecure blue devil need a hug?

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>>51025002
Yes or no, anon. Yes or no.

>>51024957
Tesla was a cool guy but his modern internet "cult" annoys me:

>no, sorry ladies, I am "too busy" discussing science with my fellow redditors on r/atheism to accept the overflowing attention you are all prepared, consciously or not usually not to throw at me
>I feel real g-good about my life

A real "volcel" wouldn't protest so much

>>51025100
Yeah, sycophants are always annoying. Dumb nerd sycophants even more so.

I just used the comic because it was the first thing that came to mind when I typed out that sentence.

>>51025037
>>#SayNoToBlueBoys
>>insecure blue devil need a hug?
>worst bearers still have no argument besides"muh dick"
>literally using ghetto meme images
like I said, the niggers of marines.

>>51025037
HOL UP
*fails the emperor*
IS YOU SAYIN
*fails at calth*
THAT WE WUZ
*fails shadow crusade even with the support of angron*
WORST BEARERS AND SHIT
*fails so hard at terra they retreat into the warp to hardly be used in the setting ever again*

Looking through the painting guides and I can't find the FW painting recipes for Iron Warrior or Alpha Legion. Anyone got a link?

So, you know, is it just me or are most of the Legions kind of shit at their jobs? Space Wolves, World Eaters and Night Lords are basically ARGHABLARGH KILL RAPE MURDER. Word Bearers, Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children are autistic as fuck. Alpha legion are SUPAR SEKRIT KLUB and often collapse any world they take so utterly it becomes useless. Blood Angels are fucking nuts even before Sanguinius dies.

>>51025239
The two fast loyalist legions (BA, WS) made it back to Terra in time. That counts as success.

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>>51024737

>>51025239
>Blood Angels are fucking nuts even before Sanguinius dies.

They were pretty chill as long as you served the imperium.

>>51025149
>LITTLE
>BLUE
>DICKS
>The audience in Macragge's lead opera house breaks into sudden violence, screaming heresies and throwing their seating at the stage. Imperial, loyal agents are ripped apart by angry crowds and an undercover cult summons a pack of daemonettes
>BIG
>RED
>COCK
>The crowd's mood shifts in an instant, they begin to praise Lorgar's holy name and chant the ancient primordial language of Colchis. The Macraggian heretic orator begins to scream in pleasure as a Word Bearer champion teleports into the chamber and physically overpowers an entire bodyguard of Ultramarines attending single handed
>The sacrifices begin. Idols of Girlyman are dashed
>the still living, subdued Ultramarines are penetrated by a squad of throbbing Colchisian bucks, their impotent little squeals of "IT'S ANOTHER CALTH" only energizing the throng of revelling audience members
>colchisian bongo drums reach a crescendo
>the red armoured Astartes begin to chant while the champion impales the BWBC cultist on stage with his fleshy daemon sword
>warp mist acts as an aphrodisiac and the Ultramar watchers compete to get a load of the musclebound Chaos-worshipping hunks' pools of gene*cough*seed
>BWBC! BWBC! BWBC!
>a giant golden daemon god is summoned and the crowd bursts into joyous ashes
>"Leave Guilliman to me"

If I have $400 and access to multiple chinamen, what's the best stuff I could get for a Salamander army?

I was gonna go with the Pyroclast troops RoW, so I'm thinking 2 units of pyros, firedrakes, and either paragon/SS praetor or Vulkan.

I know I should have a Spartan for termies, but what about Pyroclasts? LRs or Just Rhinos?

>captcha is "cheese factory rd"

>>51025452
You're going to hurt your body bad if you plan on filing them/shaving mouldlines

I'm cool with purging this thread if everyone else is.

>>51023948
He looks like my grandad after the stroke

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>>51020006
>>51019455
>>51019596

We're going to build a wall and make the Dorn pay for it.

Perturabo for president.

>>51025499
Sure you are, Word Bearer.

>>51025518
Don't insult me.

>>51025499
Ultramarines in full retreat. It's over.

>>51025468
I figure the Spartan will be shit anyways, may as well be cheap.

>>51025452
Well, pyroclasts can't take rhinos as a dedicated transport, so that makes that one easy.

Don't forget other vehicles like predators and vindicators, those get some good benefits out of that ROW as well and give you some ranged threat.