/srg/ Shadowrun General - Doggo Meets Magic and Machine

>>51023302

Bunny bomb.

It was literally just a rabbit with a Cortex bomb that blows up like a frag grenade when hugged.

I mean... it worked, but...

How large are pixies? Action figure sized? Handle of Vodka sized? Tinkerbell sized? They need to be big enough to fuck, I'm sure, but could I hide one in a water bottle?

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>>51023457

>>51023302
>Have you spend obscene amounts on a pet genetically designed for optimum cuddles?
Can't say I have, I've put too much money into the car. On the other hand, the car actually gets me laid.

>>51023482
IIRC, 2-3 feet tall.

>>51023457
I hope you're not targeting children with that.

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>>51023482

>>51023508
>he doesn't own a dog

A 10/10 doggo is a chick magnet that will hunt out bitches and bring them from across the park and down the street.

>>51023534

No, well, not yet. Maybe eventually. It was actually meant for hookers. Long story short, the barrens have kinda become Old Town from Sin City.

>>51023588
Wait. You mean hooker hug rabbits all the time in the barrens?

>>51023482
30-45cm tall.

>>51023606

All the time? No.

But the Boss Ass Bitch of the Barrens has an affinity for them, and it was a bit of a shitty assassination attempt.

My group was actually responsible for finding the wise guy responsible for making this happen, and bring it to her alive.

She shot him in the crotch until he died.

Hey /tg/ is there any blanket ways to reduce drain, besides increasing my drain stats?

>>51023647
>She shot him in the crotch until he died.
Inefficient, but I suspect that was deliberate.

>>51023750

Oh, of course it was. she was mad he fucked up a rabbit.

>>51023772
You say that like she wasn't even that upset about the assassination itself.

>>51023890

lol, she wasn't. At least, not by comparison. people try to kill her all the time.

>>51023713
Drugs, which increase your drain stats.
Also the Centering Metamagic.

>>51023934

Alright, that's fair.

Would it make sense for a guy who has a serious beef against spirits to have a mentor spirit?

>>51024246
Define "serious beef"

>>51024268

I'm working on building a Banish focused NPC. Like, probably rolling 20+ dice, depending on if I make him standard, or give him stuff beyond what a standard CC character would have.

If he sees a spirit, it is his first target. If someone has bound spirits and they're communicating with him, he'll demand that the spirits be sent away. he always maintains a high-force Spirit Zapper spell around his home.

>>51024246
Mentor Spirits might not be spirits, Mentor Spirit is just the blanket term thats used for that sort of relationship.
If your Exorcist is a Christian, his 'mentor spirit' could be any number of Angels or Saints.

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>Running an extraction run for a corpkid who got herself abducted by some Ancients
>Firefight breaks out in a warehouse when the team fails to sneak in and then fails harder to negotiate/intimidate for the girl.
>Glitch sees the girl catch a bullet
>Wound was just a scratch but she panics and activates her DocWagon bracelet
>Fight continues, Mage gets shanked good by a drugged up Ancient
>Mage panics and rips her DocWagon bracelet
>Battle with Ancients ends as the gangers eventually flee
>We patch up the corpkid as best as we can so she will be presentable to the Johnson we were going to take her back to
>Attempt to leave the warehouse
>Two DocWagon teams open fire on us, each one assuming we are the threat because we are armed and dress like psychopaths
>Mage doesn't want us to shoot back because she can't afford the premiums attached to injured/dead HTR employees.

>>51024612
Your first mistake was getting a Docwagon contract, omae...

>>51024612
>Mage doesn't want us to shoot back because she can't afford the premiums attached to injured/dead HTR employees.
Yeah, that was just about the most Shadowrun thing I've heard in a while.

>>51024631

Corpkid had the docwagon contract, not any of the runners

>>51024700
Mage did too

>>51024720
>>Mage panics and rips her DocWagon bracelet

Sounds like the mage was ripping the corp kid's bracelet. But I'm not that guy so I could be wrong.

>>51024779
I thought that at first too, but reread it
>Fight continues, Mage gets shanked good by a drugged up Ancient
>Mage panics and rips her DocWagon bracelet
The Mage
The Mage gets fucked up by an Ancient, so she pops her own bracelet to send a separate DocWagon team in.

>>51024804

Ah, alright, re-reading it, I see it.

>>51024612
wait. if she had a doc wagon bracelet, why didn't she initiate it when she was captured. how did the gang not see it?

>>51024832
We found out later that she wasn't "kidnapped" by the Ancients and instead was slumming it willingly. Of course, the parents didn't approve of their daughter hanging out with a group of go-gangers, but didn't want to get police involved because they were scandalized by the whole situation. So sure, why not trust a Mr. Johnson to hire a bunch of mercs to convince your shitty daughter to come home.

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>>51023302
>arrow for previous thread
>link to previous thread actually leads to the thread before it
you had ONE job

This is the third time this week someone has fucked the OP post up. There ought to be a template for it in the pastebin to avoid this.

>>51025070
consider that this was made coincidentally with the last thread and that OP simply forgot to change that tiny detail
you autist

>captcha: pinecrest sheldon

>>51025106
Damn you for calling me out on that thing I totally I am!

Also, I'm curious on how many of you are in any games right now and if any of them are in person or done online.

>>51025133

I'm currently GMing one game, online, with plans for another game (Same group, different gm)

>>51025133
>on that thing I totally I am!
Rolls right off the tongue
I am not currently in a game but we do occasional one shots at my table w/ college buddies.

>>51025133
currently GMing a game IRL, once per week every 3rd month

>>51025133
>Damn you for calling me out on that thing I totally I am!
The phrase you're looking for is "I resemble that remark." As for games, I'm playing one in person tonight, and it's every other week.

>>51025133
I GM an online one and I also play in an online one

>>51025133
Currently in one that runs once a week. I play a Pornomancer.

>>51025157
>>51025158
>>51025173
I miss the good old days when I got more than 3 hours of sleep a night and didn't type things out wrong.

Do you wish your real life sessions were more often? Are the sessions slower or faster than you'd like?

How much initiative would y'all put on a non-combat character? I made a face and it just doesn't feel right to have less than 3 guaranteed initiative passes.

>>51025344

IMO, if you have at least 2 guarenteed initiative passes, you should be good.

>>51025234
Well I'd prefer once a week or even twice a week instead of once every 2 weeks, but the GM's got a wife, 2 kids, a real job and other shit going on.

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Alright guys, give me your worst.

>>51025234
Nah not really
we currently play three different games (SR and 2 homebrews), one game each month, 4/5 times per month. With each game being 3-5 hours long we manage to achieve enough but not get too tired

>>51025562
As I recall, Banishing is just really not very good at all.

>>51025234
>Do you wish your real life sessions were more often? Are the sessions slower or faster than you'd like?

Once every week would be perfect. Right now I'm getting about 2 a month, and my friends haven't even gotten themselves married yet. I'm probably going to have to get a new group once one of them gets engaged, since we'll basically never play after that point.

Sessions end up being 4-8 hours, which I think is fine when people have adult lives to attend to.

>>51025495
>Firstname Lastname
>scanner crit-glitched to save your ass
That's your lucky SIN now. Hold onto it 'till it gets burned. Broadcast it whenever you do normie stuff.

Also, use your R4 SIN for the cops. Unless you're planning on just bribing them anyway, in which case use money. Run Faster says that ¥100 is a "good" bribe amount. In the hands of a competent face, that should like plenty to make some underpaid cop look the other way for a few minutes.

>>51025562
While making a melee character in SR is totally viable, it's not for everyone. I don't think you'll be getting enough out of what you have to justify it being your sole method of attack. Furthermore, carrying around a polearm but no gun at all when your a human sort of screams 'I'm a mage please geek me'.
I presume your going to be adding more equipment and improving that SIN so I won't touch on that. Pick up a ballistics mask, though.
You don't have any perception, sneaking, or con.
Not only do you have six (!) dice in banishing, you also have improved ability (banishing) at rating six (and I think you can only have improved ability at half your base skill). This is not optimal. You also don't have stunball or IMPROVED invisibility. Or summoning, which is like the single best skill for mages (though I'd imagine it doesn't fit the concept).
I dunno, man, it seems like you're building around a concept that isn't really supported in SR.

If you built a mage or shaman to focus on protective magic, would it end up boring?

>>51025932
>you can only have improved ability at half your base skill


This

>>51025932

You can only have improved ability to 1.5x your skill rating. So, if you have 2 points in something, you can go up to 3, if you have 6 ranks in banishing, it goes up to 9.

Yeah, I should buy a gun, and I full play on it when I have more money.

I'll re-tweak some of my skills to get those (and automatics so I can use said gun).

Really, this guy is just supposed to be that odd Anti-spirit, and I know banishing sucks. I really do.

>>51026404

>The maximum improvement possible is your current skill level x 1.5 (rounded up).

>Current skill x 1.5

6 x 1.5 = 9

>>51026470
Thats exactly what the two quotes you are quoting are saying.

>>51026586

No, they're saying that I can only have improved ability at HALF my base skill. The rules say that I can have improved ability at at One and a half times my base skill.

It's the difference between having 3 improved ability and 9 improved ability, when the base skill is at 6

>>51026612
Your total augmented skill level can go to 1.5* your current level
Since you have Banishing 6 your augmented rating in it can only go to 9

>>51026612
"they", which includes me, are saying you can improve your skill by half your skill Level with "improved ability", exactly like in the formula you posted.
Stop being so dense please.

>>51026668

When I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I was misreading it as saying that I can have improved ability at a rating of 1.5x my skill rating.

That... sucks, all things considered, but, what can i do. Oh well, I'm sure I can find some use for another 1.5 Power points.

>>51026705
NP

Ditch Adrenaline Burst, get an additional Level of increased Reflexes, get exactly one Level of danger sense to be able to always throw surpise Tests.
You also want exactly one Level of Attribute boos (agility).

>>51026766
>one Level of Attribute boos (agility).
is that what you get if you post your char sheet to /srg/ and they complain about your agility score and what kind of shitty street sammy you are?

>>51026935
Idk, its the Standard advice for every Adept because its the most efficient use.
You roll MAGIC + POWERLEVEL Dice, and resist drain equal to POWERLEVEL, so this thing is usually most efficient at Magic6+Powerlevel1.

Hoi Chummers, got a question for you:

A freind of mine is looking to make a demolitions specialist, and I have absolutely no idea how to help (beyond putting points in demolitions and thrown weapons for grenades). Any qualities or such that I should look at?

>>51027010
Branch out into either Infiltration (high agility) or face shittery to be able to get the explosives in place unnoticed.
I'd probably try to go Cyber.

Grab 2 Levels of tailored pheromones, 1-2 Levels of that logic boosting bioware, some sort of Reflex enhancement, Orthoskin with the flame resistant improvement, Alphaware plastic bonelacing and a reflex Recorder on demolitions (not sure if possible), with CHA 5 and LOG 6(7/8).
Go either Elf (in this case, CHA 6), or Human with decent Edge.

Why does your character run the shadows instead of doing literally anything else with their level of expertise?

>>51027173
I AIN'T NO CORP BITCH

>>51027173
I'm actually thinking of working for the David cartel again, since we're in the middle of pissing off the Octagon triad.

>>51027173
To get back at mummy and daddy for being shitty parents

>>51027329
This desu.

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>>51027010
Here, have a rough draft, regards:
>>51027097

>>51026967
>the joke
>your head

>>51027173
Who wants to hire a vampire who dresses like dracula?

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>>51027534
Note: There are still 3 skillpoints, 20 Knowledge skills and 21 contact Points unspend and I'm at 11/12 Points from positive and negative qualities.

You are also actually throwing 18 Dice with the Savalette (20 if you get a smartlink), Chummer can't into Cyberarms correctly yet.

>>51025562
I may be a bit late too this, but it's worth pointing out you can't actually take improved ability on magical skills.

>>51023621
50cm or less.

All the good Assault Rifles are legally Forbidden. Considering the nature of a shadowrunner's job, I shouldn't worry too much about my weapons' legality should I?

>>51029053
depends on your archetype
Having a weapon at R or even legal means that with a Fake license you can get it through security checks, while with a F weapon you HAVE to smuggle it, no way around it
So for a infiltrator it might make sense to get a R weapon or Taser, since for them making as much damage as possible isn't a high priority, while a sammy might spend more effort/dosh/favours to get his Anal-Annihilator to where the run is

>captcha: place 1945
no captcha, if you find yourself in 1945 I don't think anyone cares if your rifle is forbidden or not

>>51027534
>>51027577
Damn, thanks anon.

The player in question wanted to be a troll initially, which doesn't really jive with being sneaky-beaky, but I'm sure I can adapt some of this to help.

>>51029273
>wanted to be a troll initially, which doesn't really jive with being sneaky-beaky
One day
ONE FUCKING DAY
I will go into the drawthread
and make them draw a picture of a troll
but not any troll
the SNEAKIEST TROLL
and it will be good

>>51023512
Shorter. Half-meter. It's dwarves who are about 3'.

That's not even a joke, actually look at their typical height ranges. They've been making them taller in recent editions, even.

Who here would go to a Pixie brothel? Sounds pretty great to me.

>>51029483
>roll for anal circumference

>>51029519
Making small creatures squeal around my dick is my fetish.

>>51029564
chummer, I think you have to know
they aren't squealing
they're laughing

>>51029699
W-what?

>>51029699
Hello, yes, Knight-Errant? I'd like to report a murder.

>>51030210

making a donation to my 401Kek

>>51027173
he could land a nice job as a corp mage if he learned how to budget his money correctly instead of spending it on clothes and drugs

>>51029363
I made a troll physical infiltrator once. Maximum Strength, melee for silent weapon kills, and a focus on non-hacking-based security shit. Physically disabling alarms, picking locks, installing loopers onto security cameras, using crowbars on lockers, plasma cutters - the whole shebang.

His combat strategy usually involved ducking around a corner and activating his chameleon suit to reestablish stealth, then coming back in for a melee sneak attack.

His fatal flaw - the one that got him killed - was being too thick to squeeze out of a building on the verge of self destructing through the narrow gap available, without enough time to widen it. He died still trying to cut his way to freedom.

Rip in piece. You were too good for this sixth world.

>>51029363
Is it going to just be a floating pair of horns? You know, because he's so sneaky that even being on the other side won't help you see him (much)?

Not the guy that asked, but is it that unusual for me as a GM to ask all that all the PCs have a 'normal' job? I was under the impression that Shadowruns, while lucrative, aren't jobs you can really rely on.

>>51030448
Unless the theme of your game includes all the runners being SINners, then having a Day Job is extremely unusual.

>>51030448
Day Job is its own Negative Quality. It's very much the exception, not the norm, for runners.

>>51030448
depends on the status of the PCs, their location, whether they have SINs or not and of course how much money they make with their runs
For some runners it's the only way to keep up their lifestyle, for other it's a way of life and they focus fully on it and for others it is at best a secondary money source due to shitty pay

As an example: I as a GM make it that my runners earn enough per month to pay for their lifestyle and a little extra. If you want a secondary job then it's mostly to get some extra dosh or for roleplaying purposes

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>>51030446
nah, I saw it mostly in the sense of pic related

>>51030483
>>51030498
Not complete wageslaves, but Clinic nurses, coffeegirls, and !Wal-Mart employees. Are those a bit more normal?

>>51030506
Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. I just think it's a good way to make people a bit more invested, if they have a home and family that needs the money.

>>51030630
Still very weird.

>>51030630
Even jobs like that require a SIN. Hell, you'd need a SIN to even get in the door in those places to buy something. If you want your runners to have jobs you are going to be talking "dishwasher in Barrens bar", "undocumented farmer", "scab worker", etc.

Would it be too much of a buff to let AIs and Technos get programs for free?
I mean, damn, having to pay any karma at all for a single program that's 80 nuyen? That's ridiculous inflation.

>>51030630
>Not complete wageslaves, but Clinic nurses, coffeegirls, and !Wal-Mart employees. Are those a bit more normal?
All of those - every last one of those - is represented with the Day Job negative quality. They're the exception, not the rule.

Half of the reason people become shadowrunners is to NOT have a day job. To only work five high-risk, high-reward nights per month, instead of having a daily grind.

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>>51030388

>>51027010
I had a street sam that had explosives as a side line skill. My advise would just be demolitions pool. A bomb maker is like a lockpicker. In real life it's this huge array of technical knowledge. In shadowrun it's a single skill.

If he wants to go full on bomb thrower I guess heavy weapons for grenade/missile launchers.

>>51027173
Cause corps don't hire magic injun hitmen.

He pissed off the two mobs that do and moved to seattle.

>>51030448

Shadowruns arent very reliable, but they're extremely lucrative, and most runners are SINless, which means they literally are incapable of getting jobs because they don't exist.

Now, as to why they don't retire after they rack up enough money to BUY themselves a lifestyle at Medium+, that's for your characters to decide.

>>51031194
Because they're going for High, have a vendetta, or just don't have the mindset to get out of the biz would be the usual answers.

Also being dragged back in works in the right cases.

>>51031194
Is "I need more power!" not a good enough reason?
There's nothing quite like the ridiculously high stakes of a Shadowrun to really push them to their limits.

>>51030448
My street scum make a side living selling 100% authentic barrens meat.

>>51031194
You could get a shitty job with a decent fake SIN.

>>51031307
That's often the explanation for Adepts. Honing themselves in the fire of battle to come out the other side stronger for the experience.

>>51031318
>You could get a shitty job with a decent fake SIN.
This is represented by the Day Job negative quality.

>>51031327
Yup. The person I responded to said runners couldn't get jobs because they were SINless, which doesn't make sense because any half-decent runner has a good fake SIN. If they really wanted a job they could get one.

>>51031194
>Now, as to why they don't retire after they rack up enough money to BUY themselves a lifestyle at Medium+, that's for your characters to decide.
Because they're a livestreaming Electronic Witness celebrity runner trying to get their Fame maxed out. Once their Fame is high enough to be making 50k per month (600k per year) from their simsense recordings, they'll coast on that forever.

>>51031194
>>51031293
>>51031307
>>51031321
It's kinda this. At least half the characters I've played had some combination of aiming to make it big and retire and revenge against someone who ruined their life. The current one is an adept that started with both reasons and is slated to keep going just for the high stakes improvement.

Why is the commlink the device used to guard your PAN?
Why not some kind of... blocker...box?

>>51031456
>blocker...box?
how do you mean that?

>>51031456
How would the signal between your gear and the commlink be then?

>>51030388
>Rip in piece
Rest In Peace in piece?

Wait while I put some nuyen in the Automatic Teller Machine machine, then transfer it to your account. Still got the same System Identification Number number?

>>51031489
Like, a dedicated device for that function. Instead of folding it into another multipurpose device.
>>51031498
wiresextremely short range wireless signals

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>>51031508

>>51031509
You mean using universal data connectors and the access cables. Well yeah that would work great for guarding your devices from wireless attack, but how would you communicate and share info with allies who aren't nearby?

>>51031555
you use the commlink for talking, not for securing all of your devices.
Your commlink doesn't even need to be hooked up to your devices, it can be entirely apart.

>>51031509
>extremely short range wireless signals
So you'd have a device which can send and recieve wireless signals, connect to all your devices and has a high firewall to prevent entry
So essentially your commlink

>>51031594
yes, if you want the unsecure method that is still loads more secure than a device that picks up signals from everywhere.

It just seems dumb to me that they use a commlink app for security and not, I dunno, a dedicated router or firewall box.

>>51031589
See >>51031594
I use my commlink for talking AND securing my devices considering it has the highest firewall of all my devices.

>>51031618
That's my point, it strikes me as really weird that a phone has the highest firewall and not some kind of dedicated device.

>>51031630
Miniaturization has progressed far enough that commlinks are more of a PC with phone capabilities than the other way around.

>>51031630
Blame the game designers. If there is a device specifically made for slaving everything to because of a really high rating I'd like to know about it.

>>51031647
Still, that implies you'd be able to get equivalent or better protection in a smaller package with a dedicated device.

>>51031630
>phone
well your commlink isn't just your phone
think less phone and more Smartphone/Laptop
even the weakest commlink on the market is able to send and receive brainwaves as long as you set up a connection (trodes or Datajack) and that fast enough that you can run some impressive stuff on them

even the weakest commlink is FAR faster than your average PC-Tower

>>51031508
Rip in piece, not RIP in piece.

>>51031667
but why?
the signaling method can't be too different or else it wont be able to communicate with your devices
and the part that makes it secure (the firewall) is just software

as said before: you can either just use your commlink as a wireless router or you can connect them with wires

>>51023578
Can confirm. I own an actual doge. Best wingman ever.

>>51031630
>>51031665
>That's my point, it strikes me as really weird that a phone has the highest firewall and not some kind of dedicated device.
>Blame the game designers. If there is a device specifically made for slaving everything to because of a really high rating I'd like to know about it.
That dedicated device? It's your commlink.

A commlink isn't just a phone. It's the primary computer of the Sixth World. It's the best you get short of a full-on Host.

You're thinking of it in wrong, dumb, bad terms, that show you don't understand what it represents in your typical person's life.

>>51031667
>>51031670
>>51031731
The dedicated device you're all looking for is a cyberdeck, particularly one with the highest possible attributes you can afford.

>>51031673
That makes even less sense.

>>51031826
It's implying he got ripped into pieces by an explosion, not that he's resting in peace.

>>51031836
Just one piece.

What kind of security would a Hospital have?

Looking to set up a run where they are supposed to steal a shitload of medical supplies (Delivered to the Orc Underground, because Humanis has been getting a bit too trigger happy and they're running really low on medical equipment)

>>51031870
>What kind of security would a Hospital have?
Depends on what kind of hospital, just like in real life.

It would vary by wing too.

>>51031880

That's... helpful, I suppose.

But at the same time, I have no idea how to appropriately describe myself further.

Large hospital, with large storage rooms, not minor emergency clinics that have shit for supplies.

>>51031907
Is it public or private?

Is it on university grounds? Megacorporate grounds?

Is it a religious hospital? A research hospital? A government hospital?

What kind of specialty wings does it have, aside from standard emergency rooms?

Hospitals aren't one-size-fits-all in even the slightest way. You need to define what it actually is, because 'hospital' is a category with absurd variability.

>>51031945

Public, Government.

And... is there a 'general hospital'? The point isn't to fuck up sick or injured people, but to help the Ork Underground.

I mean, Megacorp sounds like a good choice, but these guys are only a couple games past standard, I don't know if they could handle directly fucking with a Megacorp.

Just looking for a hospital that is big, has a lot of supplies, all of which would be covered by insurance, so that the hospital isn't left 'wanting' for too long.

>>51031907
What kind of area is it in and is it privately funded?

If it's in a shithole zone like somewhere close to the barrens it would be likely to have serious and unsubtle security, as it would risk being raided by gangers looking to score drugs or just cause shit, as well as dealing with unstable drug casualties. If it's an upmarket area frequented by the wealthy and corp elite the security is likely to be more subtle as it would rely on the relative security of it's location and other local assets like Knight errant to keep it safe, but it would probably have much stronger matrix and magical defence to protect it's client's privacy, with physical security being more along the lines of discretely hidden turrets and panic buttons for the parent company's local HTR team.

>>51032015
>Megacorp sounds like a good choice, but these guys are only a couple games past standard, I don't know if they could handle directly fucking with a Megacorp.
Just because it's owned by a mega doesn't mean they automatically throw only their best security devices and personnel at it.

>>51032015
Then what you actually probably want to raid is a military hospital for the security corps of a corporation that the party, collectively, thinks are cunts. That's your best bet for a place that will be immediately restocked and where the only people who will get hurt are people that the party doesn't give a flying fuck about anyway.

On the one hand, that means there's a good chance that even the doctors and patients will be packing sidearms.

On the other hand, that means they should have caches of combat drugs in the hospital pharmacy, and they probably have a stockpile of Used, Standard, and Alpha-grade cyberware and bioware in high-security lockups somewhere on-site.

The caveat, though, is that the pharmacy, the cyberware lockup, and the bioware cold room will all be three separate locations. The runners will have to prioritize, and see whether they want to try to make out like bandits, or cut and run after the first haul, keeping in mind that the longer they stick around, the faster security will ramp up, considering where they are.

>>51032015
>I don't know if they could handle directly fucking with a Megacorp.
Megacorps don't get mega by throwing big money at small problems. Fucking with megacorps is the most reliable way to deal with garbage security, because someone in management made the call that they wanted to save money that quarter on not getting fresh training and security devices, because saving money is how you earn that promotion.

>>51032066

I'm liking this. And after the last run... this could work.

I need to look up Hospital blueprints, don't I?

And what kind of security are we looking at anyways? Yes, Doctors and patients are packing sidearms, but there's a difference between the doctor being able to defend himself with a revolver, and every 3rd room having a HTR team in it.

Also, related: Which mega would most likely be funneling money into the Humanis Policlub?

>>51025562
How the fuck do you have rating 6 in Banishing, Blades, Counterspelling AND Spellcasting?

>>51032105
>And what kind of security are we looking at anyways?
Serious security at the actual pharmacy and other lockups. Bored patrol guards on each floor whose main job is actually to serve as extra muscle - glorified orderlies. Any HTR teams will come in from off-site but, considering what the place is, they'll be coming within five minutes of a major alarm getting tripped.

The longer the crew can go without an external alarm signal going out, the better their chance at taking the whole haul.

>>51032144

A priority in Mystic Adept lets you get 2 magical to rating 5 for free

>>51032132
It wouldn't be an official mega thing, but any given mega would have execs who might be racist.
Also, the azzies might fund them in an attempt to destabilize their neighbors.

Daily reminder that skills can go to rank 12
Rank 6 is only a chargen limitation

>>51032132
Japanocorps. Also Evo because who doesn't need a convenient enemy to rouse the people?

>>51032161
Shit, didnt realise it was 5th ed,
my playgroup only does 4e so I was being a tard.

>>51032169
>Rank 6 is only a chargen limitation
A karma cost/training time limitation too. To call advancement past Rating 6 prohibitively expensive is putting it mildly.

To be blunt, you'd have to be a total fucking retard to invest your karma there instead of almost literally anywhere else.

>>51032169
>Implying anybody in these threads actually has a game where they can play a character long enough to grind that out.

>>51032151

Alright. So they're going to need Matrix presence in order to prevent the hospital from setting an alarm that will call HTR teams, Magical presence (Which they have the most of anyways) to prevent a spirit from going off and getting back up, and then they need to deal with the actual drekheads.

>>51032168

Oh, of course nothing official or public

>>51032172
Evo works well enough. I just needed some mega to target that would make sense.

>>51032185
Nah omae, you're good. we all screw up sometimes.

>>51032132
>Which mega would most likely be funneling money into the Humanis Policlub?
Japanocorps. Japan is super racist - even moreso than in real life - and it extends to metas too. Renraku is a good pick - they have a lot of very embarrassingly public discriminatory policies in place that would make shadowrunners be disappointed, but not surprised, to find them funneling Humanis money.

>>51031366
That costs thousands of nuyen. The average SINless scrag doesn't have tens of nuyen to rub together.

>>51032203
>and then they need to deal with the actual drekheads
Which, again, since it's a VA hospital for a corporation's security corps, probably includes the doctors (trained as combat medics and then as medical doctors, with combat training and possibly field experience) and patients (ranging from a kid fresh out of the academy and now on life support, possibly about to get robocopped all the way up to turbo-veterans coming in for their annual cyberware tuneup).

If your runners are smart, they'll find a way to check the shift rotations and scheduled appointments, matrix-stalk everyone on both lists, and then pick a time to hit the hospital when no super-badass doctors or patients are due to be in the building. Reward the shit out of that kind of foresight. Proper legwork should make otherwise very hard runs not just easier but wildly easier.

If your runners are stupid, they'll hit it at some random time semi-blindly and you'll be well within your rights to tear them a fresh asshole. Hopefully they steal enough medical supplies and 'ware to get that new asshole patched up.

>>51032203
In the event of Evo, this hospital should have some really heavily cybered patients in it.
So like, ignoring security and suchforth, you've also got a dude with a tank where his legs should be and an implanted grenade launcher inside that tank.

>>51032271

This is what I was looking for.

Alright, I can work with this. I can work very well. A few teams of guards, let the patients be just as dangerous as the doctors and the guards (Albiety probably with pre-existing P and S damage). Hell, even have a reason for the errant mage to be around since they need medical treatment to heal up that Drain.

Thanks for the Advice Chummers. Going to sleep now, but I'll probably have some questions here and there about this. I'll find some way to identify myself.

>>51032326
Ideas for other fun medical wings to be at a corporate hospital:
>HMHVV quarantine wing
>Cyberzombie maintenance wing - high security clearance required
>Veterinary clinic for cyber-dogs, hellhounds, and other members of the corporation's beloved K-9 unit

These don't even need to be places where the party would have a reason to go. Just places that can appear on the site directory.

First time SR GM here. I'd like some tips on how to write some good, Deus Ex-style open ended runs. Give the players a bunch of different ways to tackle the same problem, put in some secrets and secondary objectives, etc.

I'd also like some tips on how to GM the info gathering part of the game; hitting the streets, chasing leads, coming up with a plan, etc.

How do you actually build a Pixie punch adept?

>>51032627
Don't. Your max str is 2. Build a manablade adept instead.

Question: What's a good ballpark price for a juvenile Hellhound? I can't find anything in howling shadows, and a beastmaster character seems like a neat idea.

>>51032688
Alright then, tough guy, how do I do that? Just grab adept spell (Manablade)?

>>51032374

those are all places the party has reason to go. Any one of those is a great way of creating chaos if they go loud by mistake.

oh god help me

.25 power points left and I already picked attribute boost 1
what am I supposed to fill that last .25 with? more attribute boost? one die and one more drain?

>>51032792
No.

Did you take Nimble Fingers yet? Because that's an awesome power for the price.

>>51032797
"Additionally, the Simple Actions Change Gun Mode, Insert Clip, Remove Clip, and Use Simple Device are now considered Free Actions."
>my character is poor and couldnt afford the wireless bonuses needed to do these as free actions
>this power fixes all that forever just from that one rank
>on top of that Palming is on the list of skills to start learning with character advancement
Aaaaaand SOLD. Thanks, chummer.

>>51032862
Nil sweat, omae.

>>51032725
And then improved ability (blades), yeah.

Is there any reason, barring the darkest of trenchcoats, why you wouldn't get a custom ballistic mask?

>>51032967
Literally none.

>>51032967
>>51032986
Can't afford one over a regular ballistic mask.

>>51032967
I always presumed the difference between the Custom and Standard Ballistic Masks were that the Standard came in your greys, blacks, navy blues, and the Customs were the ones with skulls, clown faces, etc on them. Custom Ballistic Masks with falsely incriminating symbols on them are a staple of my team's loadout (when I can convince the ork to wear a Humanis symbol on his face that is).

>>51033007
Well yeah, that's basically what it says in R&G.

>>51032194
I have a MysAdept with over 380 ingame Karma in my Group.
Tell me more.

>>51032607

Bump for answers

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>>51032967
None, really.
Especially if you are going for a gimmick.

>>51033054
>380 karma
Wtf
How?

>>51032169
>rank 6 is only a chargen limitation on skills
It might be a soft cap, but it's a very durable soft cap.

You can go up to 12 from 6, but it takes you 114 karma and 99 weeks of training. That's just under two years of training alone, nevermind the shit you go through just to get that much karma. Even if you have a really good trainer you're still topping a full year of training.

For that much karma, you could achieve a more well-rounded character, shoring up all kinds of skills and attributes, being able to serve other roles in a pinch, probably eliminating most of your greatest weaknesses. and becoming a much stronger runner for it. If you wanted, you could take a whole skill group from R0 to R6. Or you can blow all of it on +6 to one single skill that you already had 18 dice in.

So it just doesn't seem like a great idea to keep pumping your best skill instead of branching out.

Is a Bow a good choice as a secondary backup weapon for a punch adept troll? Or does it require too much investment to be worthwhile?

>>51032627
Use shock gloves, or twink your strength. You're not the first person to think of it, so go look it up.

>>51032862
If you don't do AR / wireless so much, go for holographic sights on your firearms too.

>In addition, the holographic (or holo) sight can display basic information such as range to target or remaining ammo without the wielder using AR.

>>51032877
>Nil
Ho there, fellow shadow stepper.

Can I not buy spare drums for my drum based firearms?

>>51033133
Literally the only character of this player and he had been playing it since SR 5 got released

>>51033140
A good choice mechanically? Probably not.
You might be able to shoot a bow that hits as hard as a shotgun, but you'll have to spend 2 simple actions every time.

I suggest taking Throwing Weapons instead. They scale past 10 STR, and still fulfill the ranged combat option. So if your troll has 14 Strength your Boomerang will hit the poor fucker for 16p, about the same as a goddamn Barret Model 122. As a bonus, you can still toss around flashbangs and smoke grenades accurately.

Alright, someone help me out here:

Buying a single sensor for a cyberlimb only takes up one capacity, regardless of the sensor's rating, right? Because chummer seems to be fucked here - can put a single rating 4 sensor housing in my arm, but when I actually add the sensor (rating 4 radar) it says the housing is over capacity.

>>51033136
Going to 12 is usually a bad idea, but going to ~9 isn't that far out of a scope, especially when you are a mundane/cyber character.

>>51033397
Well, he's only at 10 strength, but I guess throwing weapons is a good backup regardless. Are 10 dice enough, or should I try to get 12 dice from somewhere? I'm kinda hurting skillpoint-wise.

>>51033349
Are they not working with drum loaded guns in Chummer? the 'Spare Clip' accessory in the Corebook works for drum loaded guns as well, its just not mentioned because CGL.

>>51033453
You have room to improve in career mode, yeah?
12 is really the ideal because thats 4 hits, which is consistently one above the 2-3 hits most guys will be rolling. If you're an adept, you could make room for Attribute Boost (Agility) for the surprise additional dice.

>>51033530
Yeah, the problem is that he's a troll, which means he has little room to do much, and I figured it made more sense for him to have combat sense than attribute boost. I could change his mentor spirit, I guess.

>>51032967
A helmet has a lower availability so you can cram more vision enhancements in it. That's the only thing I can think of.

>>51033594
Ballistic masks and Helmets stack.

>>51033602
Disputable.
They don't stack according to the missions FAQ and many tables use that as a guideline.

>>51033652
>missions
lol

>>51033602
>Ballistic masks and Helmets stack.
That's just ridiculous. I don't even care if it's RAW, that's not flying at my table.

>>51033729
Why not? It makes sense. One's a mask, the other's a helmet. They cover different areas.

>>51033578
Mechanically, Attribute Boost (AGI) is way better than a rating of Combat Sense. Combat Sense 1 is worth 1 die to your dodge pool, whereas one point in Attribute Boost (AGI)
provides somewhere between 2-7 dice (depending on MAG) to your Punching, Kicking, Throwing, and all other AGI linked skill tests.

Although, Combat Sense doesn't need to be activated to be valuable. You also can't Attribute Boost and punch a fucker in the same initiative pass. You CAN Attribute Boost and Quick Draw a knife.

>>51033733
A full cover Helm compatible with chemical seal gives you +3 Armor.
Your aren't cheesing aroung this by combining two pieces with lesser coverage to get a higher Level of protection.

>>51033669
Ah, you are THAT type of player.

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Have at me.
Before you say it, yes, I'm pretty sure I could switch to elf and miss little mechanically. It's just hard to grapple with flavor-wise.

Hey guys, I'm making a sneaky sword assassin guy, pointbuy, managed to get 16 sword and 16 sneak at game start, but no martial arts. Which martial arts would be useful for sword(or saber, which is what mine is fluffed as) assassination? I mostly want ones that give me opportinities for higher damage, so I can jump from hiding, down a priority target, and disappear again.

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>>51033733
It's obviously meant to fill the same slot as a helmet. It has roughly the same cost, and has more capacity than a helmet too. My guess is the ballistic mask is more of a full-head mask that is heavy and incompatible with the helmet, much like IRL.

Combining the two also screws with the lore on full helmets, which are meant to cover the entire head but only give +3. Even the hardened milspec battle-armor helmets are only +3. If it was as easy as "helmet+mask lol" to get +4, then the other full helmets would have gotten at least that much too.

>>51033896
Look at that! If they combined their helmets with their masks, they would have more armor available to them. Seems to me like they just ain't optimizing right.

>>51033876
Dualweapon Attack gives you +1 DV and + 1 ACC, with no disadvantage if you use two weapons with reach 1.
Grab something that includes this.

Finishing Move, on the other hand, is a trap option.

>>51033856
Yeah, a good player.

>>51033946
No, a mindless cheeser and probably crypto ThatGuy.

>>51033921

I took emotional attachment for my sword, and I'd prefer something that worked with one sword. Is there really nothing viable for doing this?

Also, does anyone know what the defense negative for being unaware of an attacker is? I'm wondering if I can just use called shots for this shit.

>>51033961
>PFS-tier ''rules''
>mindless cheeser
uh okay

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>>51033961
>Calling somebody a cheeser like its an insult
>in /srg/

>>51033971
Well, there are plenty of things that increase your efficiency, but most boil down to an additional D6 for the attack role, so the effects are rather limited.
Take one of the qualities that reduce the costs for called shots and one of the Martial arts that reduce the Costs for Called Shots to the Vitals.

>>51033985
/v/ pls, you can very well optimize to 30+ pools without resorting to pants-on-head retarded shit like the mask+helm cheese mentioned above.

>>51033984
>getting assblasted about rules that keep retarded shit like Noisequitos, RAW Rainforest Carabine and similiar shit off the table while simultanously clarifying quite a lot of shit like what you can put into drones.

ThatGuy detected

>>51034063
Its ridiculous that you draw the line at Helmet+Mask. Out of all the ridiculous, over-the-top, number-crunchy shit that people are encouraged to bring to the table by /srg/, getting a +4 Armor from a Helmet and Mask combo is probably the least offensive thing I have ever seen.

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>>51033919
Real-world militaries have indeed invented helmets that cover the full head, including the face. In shadowrun rules, such helmets give +3 armor rating.

Regardless of your, or those of people who design these things for a living, ballistic masks and helmets are obviously are not meant to stack for reasons given before.

I do hope that someday you fine ladies and gentlemen can grow up and learn to not act like rules-lawyering pricks. It took me a long time to break out of that phase myself, and I've had a lot more fun because of it.

>>51034137
And of course my point is annihilated by furious typos. I guess that can happen when I see my own mistakes repeated in others.

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>>51034120
Multiple People have pointed out that its fucking insane that a mask combined with a helmet should be able to offer more protection than a Military full-cover helmet that completely seals of your head so that you can apply a chemical seal.

>>51033872
Shouldn't a mono-whip be like, a handle with a piece of thin string on one end, that ends in a bead, or something like that? Not just literally a normal whip?

>>51033602
That's only if you assume the ballistic mask (with more capacity than a helmet) is somehow only a face shield, rather than a full helmet + face shield.

>>51034178
Its a shitty Illustration.
The real Shadowrun is indeed a (almost) monowire thin Whip that can be stuffed completely into a fingertip compartment.

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>>51034016

As far as increasing accuracy, I had 20 points for qualities and took Revels in Murder because I liked both the mechanics and the fluff, catlike for +2 stealth(mmm, assassination bonus), and incompatibility(cyberware). What else should I be on the look out for? I didn't see anything that provides the kind of bonuses you're talking about, and this is my first time playing, so I got nothing. Thanks for the advice!

honestly the idea of focusing on increasing my ability to stab people in their vital organs is delicious. Just sneaking up on people and making a called shot to cut their heart out with three smooth strokes... mm. Delicious. And slightly erotic.

>>51034199
With a handle on one end and a weight on the other.

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>>51034311
You want some of the following martial arts moves from Run&Gun:

- Sharpshooter Quality (all Called shots penalties decreased by 2, all normal attacks get -1 D6)

- Half Sword (+2 AP)
-Pouncing Dragon (additional +2 DV if you attack from above)
-Randori (-1 to called shots on either Eyes or Vitals, depending on the martial art)

>>51034453
>Half Sword (+2 AP)
Make sure you have Iaijutsu or Rapid Draw for this.

>>51034453

Thanks man! I was already looking at Half Sword and Pouncing Dragon, but Randori and Sharpshooter should look... fucking delicious. Can I combine half sword and pouncing dragon with called shots?

>>51034480
>Can I combine half sword and pouncing dragon with called shots?

>Half Sword
This is an attack action.

>Pouncing Dragon
This is an attack action.

>Called Shot
This is a free action taken before an attack action.

>>51027545
Who wouldn't?

>>51034787
A German Werewolf who goes by the name of Wolfgang and dresses like a Renaissance composer.

>>51034811
Sounds like a shitty buddy cop movie.

>same essence cost
>same nuyen cost
>no word on whether it works the same or not
Does a Bioware Tail function the same as a Balance Tail? I'd assume so, since otherwise it's a total waste of essence.

>>51032223
Shadowrunners aren't average SINless scrag, unless you're playing THAT kind of campaign.

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>>51034932

Is having English as a second language a huge disadvantage? I have about 8 dice in it, but I shouldn't be speaking it much anyways.

>>51034995
The book encourages only having people roll their language skills if clear communication is required (IE telling someone how to disarm a bomb or something)

>>51035009
Great, I can always just mind control my teammates if I need to do something like that.

>>51034961
Well what is the point then?

Also isn't it supposed to be "the point went OVER your head?"

Has there been any big Alamos 20k attacks in the 70s?

So, what are the "essential" skills for a rigger? And is it viable to do what Racter did in Hong Kong (that is, focus on a single incredibly souped up drone.)

Thanks in advance for any advice and answers.

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Do your runners live together in the same building and have a camaraderie going on, or do they all live in their own apartments/hovels scattered throughout the city and basically treat each other as assets to be tossed off and forgotten at any time?

>>51035191
We have a decent relation, but we don't live in the same building. That's just asking for trouble.

>>51035101
>is it viable to focus on a single souped up drone

How souped up is it and what's your GM like? I had a really badass drone that I dumped thousands and thousands of nuyen on and the GM blew it the fuck up.

>>51035191
It depends on the group and their backstory, I have a group of rather new players that are irl very good friends. We play infrequently but I've planted the idea for them to all move in together as a runner team. The only one who will live alone is the guy with the facility level of equipment rigger with a legit SIN. The face may also continue to live on his own due to his family, but that means the sammy, adept, tank, and decker wanna move in and get a nice base of operations set up. I feel it will go interesting especially when they botch a run vs a corp so hard they have KE come down on their turf raid style.

>>51035191
Little bit of column A, Little bit of column B.

The gunslinger basically adopted the technomancer, so they live together. The street sam still live with his ork clan-family when not running, and the elf shaman-face is free to crash at their places whenever she needs it (which doesn't happen too often that she outlasts her welcome.)

>>51035089
>implying Alamos 20k is real

>>51035191
They don't live together because that'd be retarded, but there is a feeling of companionship going

Is a Yamaha Growler acceptable to drive on streets? I am low on money, but really don't want to take public transportation.

>>51035364
The premiere Shadowrun experience is driving around in a Dodge Scoot.

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R8/H8/Assault me with accusations of faggotry.

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>>51035398
>5'6" human female
>intimidation (physical)

>>51035398
>no stick 'n shock
>gel rounds only for submachine guns
>lethal ammo at all
not operator enough/10
you're gonna get omega dawn on your ass like that, you need to be discreet, efficient, and non-lethal at all times

>>51035398

wow yet another anime girl operator

>>51035441
Femdom can be pretty terrifying, omae.

What are some good modifications for a mage's armor jacket?

>>51035531
Elemental resistances

>>51035441
Chesty Puller was 5'7". Also don't underestimate the power of knife hands.

>>51035451
That's fair. Worth moving some things around for.

>>51035458
I don't understand this comment.

>>51035488
I apologize for nothing.

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Just finished Deus Ex: Mankind Divided the other day and it got me thinking about running European games. Do we have any information on the Czech Republic and other Eastern European countries besides Russia? I can't seem to find anything.

Any ideas for good negative affects from Omegaware Cerebral Boosters? I was thinking something along the lines of megalomaniac tendencies, but I need a backup in case that is not enough of a downside for the GM.

>>51035564
Chesty Puller also wasn't physically intimidating.

>>51035570
Incomplete Deprogramming negative quality

>>51035590
There is more to being physically intimidating than being tall, and it is definitely not the only way to be physically intimidating.

>>51035570
You get flashes of totally foreign speech patterns or emotions. Stuff that your character wouldn't think or say in a million years, but isn't necessarily wrong or bad by default.

>>51035570
Just take scorched quality and get no karma for it. Easy, simple, GMs will love it.

>>51035451
Drones and critters are a thing, omae. Stick'n'Shock for corpsec drones and cops, APDS for their toys and pets. You can stick'n'shock the pets if you really want to.

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Can I go professional killer without going full high speed low drag black trench coat?

>>51035642
That would probably only be good if he's playing a hacker, as that wouldn't negatively affect a mage character much.

>>51035642
As anon >>51035686 points out, it's kinda specific to what the character would be doing. If a mage or otherwise non-decker character tried to give that as a potential option, I'd turn it down for being too unobtrusive.

>>51035662
Depends on the sort of game that's being run.

>>51035662
If you're professional about it. You sell a product, that being someones demise, high efficiency, high standards, clean, quick, quiet and with absolutely minimal collateral damage involved and no strings attatched beyond the terms of your payment as stipulated in the contract.

>>51035564
I'm like, 80% certain the "if you have anything that isn't nonlethal rocks will fall and everyone will die" guy is joking, but you should ignore him either way
>>51035568
Shadows of europe. (except for russia, which for some reason, is in shadows of asia, even tho in SRland they lost most of their asian holdings)

>>51035826
Not that guy but, how the hell did the "NONLETHAL OR DIE!?!" thing even start?

>>51035662
You could specialize in messy executions that are supposed to send a message along with killing someone. A more traditional hitman will want to be as discrete as possible, because their clients in the vast majority of cases require minimal fuss.

>>51035850
With 4e.

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Why do the vast majority of fire arms in the books look like absolute garbage? I get that the authors or artists might not be super knowledgeable about guns, but they just look bad. Especially considering how much of the fanbase of this game likes to play tacticool operator types, would it kill them to make their guns look slightly more realistic?

>>51035942
I like the HK XM30 personally. No idea how viable it is though.

>>51027173

Lets see,

Dwarf Decker - He did. He worked for KE before he got framed as corrupt by his senior.

Elf Weapon Specialist - Ex-Tir Infantry, going gradually more Liam Neeson after his daughter went missing and his wife was killed.

Ork Razorboy - Started as a ganger, has serious anti-corp and anti-authority issues.

>>51032781

Hell, if I was doing that run I'd have the decker ready to bust open every lock on the HMHVV wing the second the alarms went off.

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>>51027173
She's just in it to kill people. She could work as a regular hitman, but she likes the variety that being a shadowrunner provides.

>>51027173
Others were meant to serve him, not the other way around!

>>51036094
It's a great drone weapon - one autosoft & weapon mount gets you all those different weapon types.

>>51036180
>revels in shark mentor spirit

>>51036239
Something im still not clear on, does the HK XM30 use the automatics skill for ALL it's options?

>>51036251
No, but Autosofts are Gunnery for a single weapon.

What makes a Logic tradition? Is it just the idea that magic follows set scientific laws?

>>51036362
It's a method of applying and understanding magic that follows logical rules, rather than intuitive rules or relying on force of personality to get your way.

>>51035451
What this faggot actually meant:

You are severely lacking APDS and Explosive Ammo.
You should take SticknShock for Weapons with no-to-low armor Penetration and Gel rounds for anything hitting harder than a Heavy Pistol.

>>51035942
Have you ever taken a look at older Editions books?
Now THOSE had some fuckugly guns in them.
Especially 4E was a real low.

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>>51036094
Personally I'm fond of the Nissan Optimum.

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>>51036798
Huehuehue!

>>51036246
How'd you guess? Though I have it refluffed as being seen as a particularly violent aspect of Skadi, the Norse goddess of hunting and winter.

>>51036849
Why would you want the chamber right next to your ear?
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
WHAT? YOU WANT THE MAJOR TO FINGER YOUR REAR?

>>51036870
You don't wear ear-pro? Firing guns all day is gonna give you tinnitus regardless of where the chamber is.

>>51036890
Bull pups are notorious for fucking your hearing with all but the heaviest ear pro. So much so that European armed forc have been litigated against for hearing damage.

>>51036849
I like the Yamaha Sakura line of pistols, but with four barrels to attach silencers to instead of a line-specific silencer to buy, and no rules for firing all four barrels, mechanically it's shit I wouldn't touch with a stolen clone's dick.

>>51036905
I can't find anything besides anecdotal in a quick search, and nothing about the litigation thing. I'd also never heard this before now and I spend a decent amount of time in gun forums. Provide sources or I you're a dirty internet liar.

In any case, I don't really like bullpups anyway. They always seemed too awkward to use compared to the standard configuration.

>>51036951
http://www.fom.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/14.00-Andrew-Thomason.pdf

>>51037102
This doesn't mention bullpups specifically at all. It's blanket talking about hearing loss from all sources including shit like vehicles. It's more about the lack of ear-pro and just how loud combat can be.

I know that they are sidearms, technically, and they're not supposed to be the most dangerous things on the block, but does anyone else ever feel like the heavy pistols are a bit... lacking? Like, I love the idea of a hand cannon, but then even the best hand cannons are just 'meh' at best.

>>51035919
What happend with 4th ed?

>>51032704
>juvenile Hellhound
Hellpuppy.

Anyway, I think there's a homebrew price book floating around somewhere.

>>51037448
>Hellpuppy.

This is too adorable. fuck you.

>>51034995
>I have about 8 dice in it
That should be fine. In 5e, Language mainly serves as a cap to the size of your social dice pools. As long as you're not a Face, that means 8 is usually plenty.

>>51035191
Our rigger and shaman both live together, but the adept and decker each have their own places. The rigger and shaman living together predates starting to shadowrun together, though.

>>51035699
>I'd turn it down for being too unobtrusive
Omegaware penalties don't need to be obtrusive. One of the listed examples, after all, is being unable to deactivate the 'ware's wireless. It just needs to make sense and reinforce whatever you're going for with that particular type of 'ware.

I have two questions on natural healing checks:

1) Are they actually extended tests (i.e. with a cumulative -1 modifier on each roll), or do just they function like one? RAW seems to say the former, but that would mean that your natural healing capabilities taper off into nothing, which doesn't seem right.

2) Do wound modifiers apply to natural healing rolls? Again, RAW seems to imply that they do, saying that they only DON'T apply to resistance checks.

The example on p. 207 seems to say yes to 1) and no to 2), but doesn't provide many details. If you roll poorly, even with medical attention, doesn't that mean that it can become impossible to heal some wounds? ...Until you get wounded again, at which point your healing capabilities return?

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>>51037458
>This is too adorable.
They're black German Shepherds who grow to the size of a black bear, you know.

Unlike Barghests, they don't even look monstrous.

>>51037583
I want nine, named for each of the layers of hell, and then i'll be the crazy neighborhood dog-person who spends all his time play-wrestling his monster doggos between runs.

>>51037343
>Are they actually extended tests?
Yes they are, with the tiny caveat you cannot really 'fail' them (unless you critglitch). Each hit heals one box of damage.

>Do wound modifiers apply to natural healing rolls?
No they don't.

>If you roll poorly, even with medical attention, doesn't that mean that it can become impossible to heal some wounds?
No, it just means it'll take a longer time for you to recover. Once you are 'finished' with a test, you can keep resting take another. There's no consequence for not healing everything in one roll beyond it taking more of your downtime away.

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>>51037599
They're not even that monstrous. They're just GSDs which grow to the size of unusually fat humans. 320lbs - 140 kg - of fire and bark. That's smaller than a pony.

>>51037659
What're their average lifespans and such? Hell are there are actually rules for domesticating these things and keeping 'em around somewhere?

>>51037625
Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't thought about retry rules applying to extended tests. Cheers, mate.

>>51037677
>What're their average lifespans and such?
I haven't seen anything on the matter, so I assume they have a normal lifespan for a large dog - i.e. short.

>Hell are there are actually rules for domesticating these things and keeping 'em around somewhere?
They don't need to be domesticated, they're already dogs. They're bred and trained as corpsec security dogs on the regular, gangs keep them as guard dogs because they're a better choice than shit like rottweilers or pit bulls, and even normal people can have them if they're willing to invest in fireproofing for their home.

I think Howling Shadows has some rules on training animals, though, and a dog that can bark fire hard enough that it does 10P, AP-5 definitely needs some really good training.

>>51036863
lanyards? What is this, 1890?

>>51037583
Why do hellhounds have to be german shepards? If they're just magic dogs, shouldn't all the breeds be represented? Can't we have pug hellhounds who sneeze fire?

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>>51037802
>Why do hellhounds have to be german shepards?
Because they're the Awakened version of specifically GSDs. Every breed turns into something different. English Mastiffs, for example, turn into Barghests.

So, an Awakened pug would be something else entirely. Maybe, to the surprise of everyone, they'd turn into some kind of badass, lion-like Temple Dogs, who have natural Astral Combat ability, for guarding places from intrusive spirits and astral projections.

After all, despite being lap dogs in modern times, they've historically had a role in legend as the guard dogs of kings, emperors, and holy sites.

>>51037835
>they grow a mane and their eyes start glowing blue
>they gain a natural Astral Combat skill, able to put their enormous Willpower and Charisma to use against intruders
>they don't even increase in size, and are still just little yappers against non-spiritual intrusion
I love it. What mage wouldn't want one chilling in their Lodge?

>>51035451
>Non-lethal
>Operator
I think fucking not

>>51038017
Dont bother, people here are super into the "NON-LETHAL OR BUST" mentality it seems.

>>51038017
>>51038047
People in SRG think that corporations will track you down and smother you in your sleep if you kill a handful of security guards over the course of a run.

>>51034886
Ever seen Wolfcop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_P4C8x9S28

>>51038070
I think its only one or two VERY persistent shitheads that spew this "go mirrorshades or Frank Donuts wageslave familiy will hire top Tier hitmen do geek your whole runnerteam."-Bullcrap

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Probably a bit late in the thread to be posting this, but I'm looking for feedback on the adept powers UI in Chummer.
>>51038070
From what I've seen, it mostly stems from people thinking more about how the world of Shadowrun SHOULD work than how it actually has to to support player actions. Specifically, Rule 0 is Anything That Would Stop A Shadowrunner From Existing Doesn't Work That Way.

>>51038443
I do not see how this is significantly different.

>>51038443
Never had any issues with it, tho I have always wondered why improved reflexes was 3 different powers instead of just 1.

>>51038539
tl;dr the previous dev was unfamiliar with the code base at the time he added it, and the code didn't support FixedValues at the time. Since the powers aren't neatly costed, he split it up into 3 powers. It's already fixed in the databoundpowers branch.
>>51038534
Sorry, pressed submit a bit early. That's just the existing UI. I'm looking for ideas on how to improve it. Current suggestions from plebbit are an indication of where a power's bonuses come from and adding the standard Source/Page link that other items get.

>>51038616
Maybe gray out the adept way discount thing if you don't actually have a Way?

Met a couple people who just ticked off that their shit was discounted without having a Way

>an indication of where a power's bonuses come from
You could do this by scrolling over the power, where it breaks down the power's origin from yourself, Foci, or Mentor Spirit. This isn't super useful in my eyes but since people are requesting it, it must have some merit.

>adding the standard Source/Page link that other items get.
This would be nice.

>>51038653
Yeah, that's on my little list already. Trying to decide if I want to make it an Improvement or do a quality lookup.

>>51030630
>wal-mart employee

>not a complete wageslave

>>51034904
It doesn't, but it is fuzzy.

>>51035942

I actually like the Yamaha Raiden's design.

Hey guys, I'm back. I'm still working on exactly how this run is supposed to go, but I've taunted my players enough that they're both excited and nervous. The last run they were on was easy (On my part, I wasn't really good at building mooks), but am being very specific about them NOT being able to do the same thing for this.

At this point, I really don't know how to build things beyond standard. What is a good way to measure how strong an NPC is? I want this to be a challenge, but I don't want to make a guy who eats Anti-tank rounds to the face.

>>51039742
It doesn't really matter how strong an individual is, if the group gets the drop on him he's gone.

If you want a challenge, hit them with 2-3 small groups of decent mooks hitting them from different sides and collaborating.

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>>51039742

>>51039769

Right, i'm not looking for 1 or 2 boss characters (Already made that mistake once) But, if I just get standard humans with moderate cyberwear shooting standard guns, I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to be able to even damage the tank of the party.

The idea is using some small unit tactics to take advantages of certain un-common ideas.

Like, get guys with Riot shields that have slits on the top that allow someone from behind to stick their gun through, Phalanx style.

Or using smoke bombs with guys with Ultrasound sensors or thermographic vision.

It's going to be a big raid, I just don't know where the line is between "These guys couldn't hurt anyone if they tried' and "Just one of these groups might be too much of a challenge, much less 6 of them"

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>>51025133
I GM a small 2 person game, and a podcast that seems to be gaining traction. Both are monthly at best though

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