Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

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I BUILD THE WALL

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>>50994131
RRREEEEE DELETE THIS

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>>50994131
I TEAR IT DOWN

>>50994106
What if your opponent screens their artillery and archers?

You know, like anyone with half a brain would do

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>>50994131
This thread is now fortified against Aelf

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>>50994137
>>50994150
>they tought they could outbuild dorfs

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How are Glade Guard? I have like 80 of them from when I played fantasy.

Also, I have no idea what this is anymore. It doesn't exist.

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>>50994167
Don't forget the rune magic, very important for proper anti-Aelf walls.

>>50994219
See this >>50975070

and this >>50990826

>>50994245

So, AoS is just picking the best models from what used to be separate factions and playing them in one list?

Christ, that sounds fucking awful. Why do people play this?

>>50994157
Different anon here.
They can try to go around the screen. Admittedly this is easier said than done, especially if they're positioned smartly.
I reckon it'd be easier to do that tactic against warmachines than regular shooty guys, too. The lack of artillery in this game also hampers their usefulness.

Hellcannon/Screaming Skull Catapult/Doom Diver users will definitely cry if they have to play that list tho.

>>50994292
no this are specific tournament waacfag list.

>>50994292
Because it can still be fun. It's not as awful as it sounds - it's up to the player to keep things thematic, and there are benefits to taking a properly thematic army (namely Allegiance Benefits).

In my experience, most players will try to keep their armies thematic, and won't add a powerful unit just for its own sake.

Keyword: MOST.

>>50994369

However, there is literally nothing stopping them, right? Obviously, allegiance benefits don't mean shit if the competitive lists are spread out like that.

In my experience, anything left to the players to balance themselves is asking to be a miserable experience.

>>50994354

Again, what's stopping random players from doing it? Say I take my old wood elves to a store that plays AoS, and every one is just playing goodstuff lists with no theme?

>>50994448
That's like saying all smash players only play fox only no items final destination

>>50994150
MOONMAN MOONMAN CAN'T YOU SEE
HUMANS AND ELVES SHOULD HANG FROM TREES

>>50994624

Funny you use that analogy because my LGS runs smash tournaments and yes, that's exactly what it is.

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>>50994448
Because contrary to the internet beliefs, most player are there to play fluffy but competitive list.

The ultimate trash tier waacfag are legally fielding reaver titan in 40k,and even those people dont have the strongest list possible.
If they were TRUE waacfag they would play nothing but kroatmeme or nagash invoking 2 mourghul a turn.

Chances are if they all play in that flgs that mean theres no waacfag like that in the next, most of the time, people DONT PLAY waacfag.

Why would this guy : 50953180

build a list of fyreslayer ? internet says it shit so why did he loose money and time painting them to loose ?
Because IRL he will have fun will people like him that want to have fun

>>50994672

updating the link >>50953180

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Skaven newbie here. As I said, I have returned with another question.
Is there something I can brew with 2 SoD sets of High Elves for 1k pts vanilla tournament? Should I just stick with Guardians of the Dawnspire battalion with extra 10 Spireguard models or build something new?

>>50994816
for the elves add a dragonlord and alarielle compendium and you are good to go

>>50994672

I get your point, but there's still nothing stopping them. Also, doesn't the utter lack of structure turn people away? I've already had two people decline interest because there's no book for what they want to play, and "just pick what you want" wasn't enough. One guy wants to play dwarfs, and not fire slayers. He wants to play classic shield and axe dwarfs. The other wants to play his old High Elves that are now scattered into 6 factions. I honestly don't know what to tell them.

>>50994866
I dont see how being split is a problem.
If anything you take you orld 8th elf army and its now stronger.

There are only benefits of fielding everything from the same Keywords in some instance.
Also its not "pic what you want" you have to stay within the limit of the force composition in the GHB.

>>50994859
B-but I have nothing more than SoD models, Anon

>>50994672
Extremis Chamber

>>50994899
what did you mean by "build something new" then ?

>>50994816
The aelf army is Swifthawk Agents, which has other models on the GW store. Look there to get some ideas for additions. They can't be part of the battalion, but that doesn't matter. They're all good in their own right (except the horse chariot).
Take a gander at this if you don't believe me: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Swifthawk_Agents

(Warning: contains stale, year-old mathhammer. May need airing out.)

>>50994929
Without using Guardians of the Dawnspire if it is even possible with such small variety of models

>>50994894

Ok, the HE guy still has no idea how to field his army. He has to look through FIVE different tables in the back of the book to find ball Joan units of he wants to field them. Phoenix Temple, arcane something, swift hawk whatevers, ect.

On top of that, how am I supposed to tell people that only a few armies are cool enough to have their own army book?

I want to like this game, but the game isn't making it easy.

>>50995003
Dwarfs are literally all one faction, Dispossessed. Artillery/gyros are in Ironweld Arsenal, if you need those. So really, axe and shield dorfs are pretty simple.

Granted from my experience axe and shield dorfs are kinda hard in a game that loves fast shooty units as much as AoS does, but hey, they're at least mostly in one place.

>>50995063

Sadly, the dorf player has abandoned the game and I haven't heard from him in months, and neither of them want to play without a Codex style book.

I have Sylvaneth as well. Why should I get special spells, magic items, and bonuses when other factions can't?

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>>50995003
you are shilling at this point, but i will still answer like its not bait.

If he has no idea how to field his army, he just doent have enough IQ to be a decent adversary anyway.

here is your free of charge complete HighElf list that are on 3 so very complicated different pages condensed into 1 (literally a 10 second job)

second,
>On top of that, how am I supposed to tell people that only a few armies are cool enough to have their own army book?

you could literally say that for EVERY SINGLE edition of WHFB or 40k. there was no edition were all armybooks/codex were up to date, NONE.
this is a completely new game so of course they didnt drop 30 battletomes the first year.
each and every factions will be expanded given time

>>50995120
looks like you just need new "friends" bro, change your flgs

Speaking of classic dwarfs, I'm wondering about ranged units. Theoretically you could do:

20 Thunderers, 240 points, 20 shots at 3/3/-1/1
20 Quarrellers, 240 points, 40 shots at 4/4/-/1
10 Irondrakes, 220 points, 20 shots at 3/3/-1/1, 40 shots if they don't move.

Quarrellers have longer range and better melee by 1, Quarrellers and Thunderers have shieldwall allowing them to reroll saves but still move, Irondrakes have a better save by 1 and ignore Rend, but no reroll and have to be stationary for max efficiency.

Is it personal preference then, or are Irondrakes objectively better?

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>>50995120
you are trying to play in a FLGS where people are playing fox no item destination final and everyone is going full retardwaac and basically refuse to play AoS for shitty reasons and looks like they just want the old world.

You are obviously in garbage tier environment, i would advise either just stop wargaming here and start another hobby or simply change FLGS.

>>50995120
>I have Sylvaneth as well. Why should I get special spells, magic items, and bonuses when other factions can't?

They have special items in the GHB which are much stronger than in the sylvaneth book for them.
the game is also out since a year, so its obviously not complete yet, still people have no problem enjoying it, it looks like your environment is just toxic.

>>50995170
irondrake seems better, until you got dealt mortal wounds, then you wish you had Quarellers. More shot from quarellers also mean that hit buffs are much more powerful

>>50995129

At least in WHFB they had codexes. They literally DO NOT EXIST in AoS. You have models with rules on them. Certain factions have the privilege of getting a Codex with free bonuses, while 70% of the factions don't.

I played WE in 8th edition. My Codex was from 6th, but at least I HAD one.

When was the last battle tomb? September? We get one what, quarterly at most? So in 10 years, everyone will be on equal footing?

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>>50995216

I wish I could, but this is literally all I have. It's obviously frustrating as hell and frankly, I'm just venting because I have all this shit and can't do anything with it.

>>50995275

Again, then that comes back to the "well, why would I play a weak fluffy army when I can do this" kind of attitude. It's a lose/lose situation.

>>50995299
you should just stop AoS then, there will be no frustration

>>50995299
play warhammer fantasy.
You have all the models and all the armybooks, there is no obligation to play or even like AoS.

>>50995275
Noted, about the Irondrakes. Granted, Quarrellers and Thunderers are fragile at groups of 20 also--all it takes is one dwarf dead and Quarrellers drop to 19 shots, Thunderers drop to 4/3/-1/1.

Hmm. Wonder why everyone always says Irondrakes are the best evar then.

>>50995318

The thing is that I WANT to play it, and I already have the models. I always likes WHFB more than 40k, but my old store only played 40k except for a few of us that played fantasy. Even then, we had a few budding fantasy players. That group was great. We all had a great time, and there was a competitive, but friendly vibe to the whole store.

Then it closed, and we lost everyone but the two I mentioned.

There is one store an hour away from me that is full of WAAC fags that not only think Riptides are cool, but totally appropriate to spam. They're all mostly younger, too.

The LGS near me has smash players and no one playing table top except me and one other dude.

>>50995328

Not going to happen, especially since its not an official game anymore. On top of that, there's a much larger minimum buy-in, and that's already the excuse people use at my LGS.

>>50995299
>When was the last battle tomb? September? We get one what, quarterly at most?
Are you just ignoring the fact that they released an a battletome every month from february to july?

>I have all this shit and can't do anything with it.
You can do plenty with it. You are just whining that it will take effort to learn a new game
Here's a little pro tip: every game takes effort to learn. AOS is extremely easy to learn.

>>50995409

Actually, I have nothing to do with it because I can't get anyone into the game because of how disorganized it is.

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>>50995362
They are better but not in 100% of the case, when you are shooting into skavens, quareller will do better and on the move, than irondrake, simply because the swarm is so weak anything will kill them and you need a high number of attacks,

They have different use i think, see a group of 30 quarellers as a cheap antihorde mobile force or big model sniper from "far away" (some model are flat out immune to -1 rend so weight of fire is the only thing that works)>

Irondrakes are really strong, but once they are into close combat against any serious unit they will disapear just as fast as cheaper quarellers.

They are more complementary than in direct competition.
Just bring 10 irondrake and unless they get charged by something that fly early on or something fast because they are unprotected or whatever other reason, they will do the heavy work.

>>50995472
It's quite well organized, you just don't like it.

>why arent all the aelves in a single faction RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50995472
just do easy collage of the same faction like above and it isnt disorganised anymore.

I dont know why you complain to us instead of in your flgs tho.
You should really just change Flgs, there HAS to be another. in which city are you ?

>>50995481
Ahhhh that makes sense then, thank you!

>>50995501

More like

>why are high and dark elves in 5 different factions of 4 models while wood elves are in a single faction?

Why did they split the factions like that? What was the purpose of making 300 micro factions? FFS fire bellies are literally ONE MODEL.

>>50995521

I'm stuck between Reading and Philly. There's nothing here, as confirmed by the GW rep. Me and the store owner have been trying for 6 months. He just had to liquidate most of his stock because nothing was selling and he had to pay the bill.

>>50995170
10 irondrakes is 10 shots and 20, not 20 and 40.

>>50995592
Nobody is defending the faction split, but why are you freaking out so much about it?

Just move past it

>>50995630

Because aside from perceived price, it's the biggest thing that has driven away potential players.

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>>50995592

>>50995668
looks like you are lost in the middle of nowhere with a very low concentration of people with that interest.
This is what turn people away, im in New Zealand right know and even here where its 3 times more expensive and they literally have 10 MTG only FLGS for each city i can find a game

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>>50995680

You're not wrong.

>>50995716

Funny enough, one of our former players moved to NZ. Couldn't tell you where, though. He went to a college in Australia, then moved to NZ.

Otherwise, yea. That's the basic gist. We have tons of mtg stores and zero table top. My LGS has smash, Commander, and board games. Occasionally, I get a 40k game in with one kid, sometimes I see a married couple play X-wing, and twice I've seen an older father/son play Warmachine. That's it.

>>50994219
That is an old Wood Elf hero model. One of the better ones, you are lucky to have one.

You could use it as a Nomad Prince or something. I doubt anyone would complain about what Wanderer hero you wanted to use it for.

As for Glade Guard - they are mostly "meh", but their special rule gives them a really useful first volly. A big unit to take advantage of that will always be useful.

I can't see you ever using all 80 though. Even in a 2k list.

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>>50995781
either pic related or follow this guy >>50993665 advice.

Really no other solution here.

>>50995868

Yea, I bought it when it was on the last chance list after my store closed. I always loved the model, but it wasn't a wizard, so there was no point in using it back then. That was my one issue with fantasy back then, though I won't lie that I loved tree singing.

I wanted to play a WoC army lead by Valkia but couldn't because she wasn't a wizard.

I wanted to play TK lead by Khalida, but couldn't because she wasn't a wizard, which was extra bad for TK.

Now I can do both, but I actually can't because I have no one to play with AND I have a HUGE backlog.

>not using all 80

That's a shame. I loved my annoyingly mobile S4 MSU archers. I had a lot of fun against my friend's ogre freight train. He would annihilate one unit at a time while my treeman and his big ogre would duke it out and the rest of my dudes tried to whittle down the pain train.

>>50995928

Sadly, none of that around.

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>>50994077
>Constantly use the FW GUO design in promo art
>Still sell the ugly as fuck GUO in actual stores

Why. I mean if they are gonna do this, they should at least do some art featuring Fimir or Chaos Dorfs

>>50995982
You probably could use them all if you wanted to, I just can't see it doing all that well. I mean, that is 960 points of Glade Guard.

Two units of 20 being used to support the rest of your army would likely do better.

Even if the rest of your army are just different shooting units. If you have the models, Waywatchers (unit, not hero, since the Waywatcher Lord is just called the Waywatcher now), Warhawk Riders and Glade Riders are all capable of running around shooting shit and being generally annoying to deal with.

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>>50997025

I have 3 Warhawks (wish I bought more), and I honestly have no idea what I did with my Glade riders. They've up and vanished.

As for way watchers, they were one of my favorites. I converted pic related, though I also have 3 old metal ones from the blister.

>>50994404
>WoW Blood Elves? Because all I can see is Blood Elves
implying wow blood elves weren't directly copied from games workshop witch elves that predated wow by like ten years.

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>>50994157
>What if your opponent screens their artillery and archers?
trenebral shard literally teleports anywhere on the board WITHIN three inches of any enemy unit.

>>50997094
Okay but, I was referring to the colour scheme, not the models.

Pretty sure blonde hair and red and gold ain't the 'default' druchii colour scheme. You could paint them literally anything else and I wouldn't have thought it looked like WoW.

>>50997159
>I was referring to the colour scheme
you mean the default color scheme that has been the standard for witch elves since their inception? also ripped off by WOW from games workshop.

>>50996758
That would literally make my day

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Welp, I guess it's confirmed that that one teaser image is definitely for steampunk duardin. Because that sure as hell didn't come from the dwarf deathroller in bloodbowl.

>>50997243

FUCKING STEAM DWARF RELEASE WHEN?!

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>>50997176
Fourth edition is the earliest I can find. Please feel free to source me your claim for bright blonde haired witch elves wearing bright red and gold armour being the original concept.

When literally every dark elf I've ever seen is black-haired and wearing black or purple armour.

Cause I'm not finding that anywhere.

>>50997243
>>50997325

>what is February

>>50997325
Hopefully never.

Dwarfs should be grit and mettle, not steam and gears. Beardling.

>>50997618
t. Aelf

>>50997618
Post your dwarf models with todays date.

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>>50997618
You mad, aelf?

>>50997677
for fucks sake dwarf fucker go fuck your faggot dwarves that you can literally not go one second without masturbating to.

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>>50997656
Not >>50997618 but here have some dorfs anyway

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>>50997705
yeah he mad

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>>50997444
1994 cover of the fucking dark elf codex ass hat.

Wow releases in 2004 and completely rips off everything worth anything in its game from GW including "blood elves".

Seriously dwarf wow fucker you can go cry in the corner now.

>>50997705
>doesn't play glorious dorfs
>wants to impose how dorfs should be

Heh its coming anyway, the fact you want it or not hardly matter, i'll drink your Aelf tears on february

>>50997772
Still not blonde, but w/e, I'm wrong and I'll own up to that, sorry.

No idea why that makes me a dwarf though lmao.

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>>50997775
>Heh its coming anyway, the fact you want it or not hardly matter, i'll drink your Aelf tears on February

youre not alone. the ass clowns at GW HW literally butchered the elves into worthless shit in age of sigmar and left them twisting in the wind.

One of them even came here saw the thread before this and decided to release the teaser pic of the steamroller to preserve their precious steam faggot dwarves release rumor train.

in case you cant tell im bitter as fuck.

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>>50997243
Something Something ROAD ROLLA DA

>>50997127
And if he surrounds the artillery with models and denies you the physical space to get into attack range of them?

Shards are shit

You are shit

Scythes are better than swords

>>50998284
your spoiler triggers me

>>50998424
Your triggering excites me.

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>>50998537
Slaanesh approves of your excitement.

>>50998284
>And if he surrounds the artillery with models and denies you the physical space to get into attack range of them?Shards are shitYou are shitScythes are better than swords


do you feel smart because you can come up with counters to various strategies? that's pathetic if such a low bar gives you satisfaction.

So is Tzeentch going to get demon princes with actual abilities in the release or will demon princes continue to be stark naked ability wise?

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>>50997243
I just bought a steam tank to dwarf-up while praying for the steamheads.

any fresh spoilers for tzeentch arcanites or whatever they're called?

So... about them arcanites. Rumors about them getting a second wave true?

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>>50998871
Pray Grimnir my friend.

>>50999258
>>50999317
we will see thursday

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>>50996758
Doesn't he still come with the original head too? It's not too far off from the illustrations.

>>50999832
I guess its "not too far off" if you forget that one is godlike and the other is a 30 year old piece of shit merely ogre sized.

>>50999923
Well in that case than isn't the 30 year old one objectively the better choice given that it's nurgle?

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>>50998225
I like this edit.
Have a +1

>>50999923
Chinacast sold me a forgeworld recast for $40.

A++

Some weirdo gave me shit about it being a different size from the shitty old metal one though.

>>50999956
>Well in that case than isn't the 30 year old one objectively the better choice given that it's nurgle?

the smaller older games workshop model is inferior in terms of aesthetics but superior in terms of in game performance. This is due to its smaller table top footprint allowing better mobility and restricting incoming damage channels.

Finishing my nurgle daemon army is on hold until they get around to making a non turd sandwich greater daemon of nurgle. And no I am not interested in the forgeworld model.

>>50999523
>tumblr nose
I realize it actually does make sense here because Slayers are notorious drunkards, but still...

>>51000160
>Every red nose is Tumblr nose.

I think you should go to an AA meeting and tell those faggots that they should stop with the SJW tumblr nose faggotry. And also make a quick stop to all the places in the world where it's cold.

>>51000156
But it's nurgle, so the older a model is, and the more like a turd sandwich it looks, the more fitting it is, No?

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>>51001138
no. just look what FW gave us 3 years ago ...

the old one (mote like actual one) was ugly even 15 years ago.

>>51001210
(more like the actual one since gw will never update)***

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>>51001138
>>51001210
>>51001216
And YES its just THAT much believable

>>51001216
>more like the actual one since gw will never update

the glottkin model was supposed to be the guo until they repurposed it for the end times

>>51001261
yes i know, thats exactly why i said that, we sill probably wait another 30/40 years for another GUO model years

>>50994077
So is silver tower actually any good?
Specifically with the non included heroes?

My friends arent big into wargames, but they are big into boardgames and id love to put some of my lizardmen miniatures to use again.

>>51001274
>>51001261
>>51001210

Plenty of GUO proxy options.

> Forgeworld GUO
> >>51001210
> Glottkin

I mean sure an official update would be nice but it could be way worse.

>>51001291
I know, but some butthurt dont accept anything else than the 30 year old one as its the one guo sold "officially" as a GUO

>>51001285
yes its nice and nicer with other heroes

>>51001357
what about long time? Is it mostly there for one shots and playing it for the hell of it or are there some campaign elements to it?

>>50994816
>>50994975
So any ideas for this or should I just run battalion

>>51001470

>>50994955 here.

Running the battalion is a good idea (extra rules and all), but I'd recommend adding more aelves. If you want to replace some of the battalion's units with other Swifthawk or Council units, go ahead.

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>ForgeWorld only do Khorne stuff

>>50994077
So, what's the release date for the new book anyway?

>>51001939
They did a bunch of Nurgle stuff?

>>51001377
extensions and 5 new maps are coming

>>51001979
next week

Is brayherd and Nurgle daemons a good mix?

>>51002008
Brayherd don't really mix with anything.
That's the problem.

They don't share any useful Keyword with anyone.

Anyway, if you like to have something fast on the front while your slower stuff takes their time... it could work.

>>51002056
>Anyway, if you like to have something fast on the front while your slower stuff takes their time... it could work.

That was going to be my plan, dunno if it is a good plan or not though

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>>51002060
There are better combinations for sure, but don't let that stop you from collecting the minis you like.

I strongly suggest to use some Battalions. This one is small enough to be used for allies.
Brayherd really needs those extra attacks, otherwise they won't pose much of a threat (and your opponent would simply ignore them and focus on your other stuff).

>>51002109
Does the Ungors also include Ungor Raiders?

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>>51002120
Sadly no, it specify the unit, not the Keyword.

This other one is for Ungor Raiders. It's... okay. I wouldn't pay 100 points for this Battalion, but I guess the flanking is pretty good in some scenarios.

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Take-spread this blessed script-tome for coming war with Dwarf-things. Know what you squeak-speak Praise the Horned One always.

What can you guys tell me about your dudes?

>>51002002
Thats good to hear i thought it was abandoned, but actually i wanted to ask if there is character progression or anyhting like that going on, you know mordheim esque.

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>>50997656
>>50997732
Dwarfs!?
DWARFS!

I may as well join in the Dwarfy fun until Anon proves to us he knows Dwarfs.

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>>51002418
Also a picture of the last model I was painting. Picture is WIP, and I have since finished it (apart from the shield and base, but they will come when the rest of the unit is finished).

I can recommend the gemstone paint to anyone who wants gems on their Dwarfs. I use them over Ironbreaker instead of over Stormhost Silver or Runefang Steel like GW says you should, since I think it gives it a bit of a deeper looking colour.

>>51002336
>What can you guys tell me about your dudes?
That I should finish writing the PDF about them.

>>51001306
This is like that Wander guy whining 5 threads ago about the 'lack of new stuff' even though that whole range is new plastic.

The fact that some factions still have metal special units with not alternatives is far worse imo. Most of the Skaven specials are still old and ugly for instance.

>>51002560
I would kill for a kit of three plastic Skaven weapon teams.

>>51002620

> Weapon teams
> Jezzails
> Poison Wind Globadiers
> Gutter Runners
> Warlock Engineers
> Plague Censer Bearers
> Night Runners
> Plague Priests

There are some good proxy/boxed game options avaiable but it for most of those you need quite a lot of miniatures. I did convert my own PWG but it takes ages to collect the bits.

>dwarves rumoured to get a golem like thing as a model but end times scrapped the idea
>new steam head

What if steam head get a mech?

>>51002655
Rat Ogres, too.

>>51001291
Unless you're a god with Green stuff, just use the FW you ninny
It's the model that 90% of all Nurgle Greater Daemons use in the vidya/lore/artwork

>>51002908
Yeah but they have a plastic kit, it's ugly as all fuck but it does exist. And the IoB Rogres are really great.

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>>51002982
Night Runners also have a plastic kit.

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>>50996758
Seriously, this deserves to be in some promo art, god damn

>>51003020
The less said about that abomination the better, it also about 17 years old (released alongside the 6e army book if im not mistaken) at this point... Although the rat ogres are 12 years old. They should just repackage all the Spire of Dawn stuff although it's cheap enough to buy as a box set just for the special stuff I guess.

>>50997844
Elves are filthy, perverted, animals.

They belong in a sack in the river as infants.

>>50994672
That hurts my wallet just to look at.

>>51002662
>GET IN THE FUCKING STEAM MECH GRINJI!

>Austisbeard screeching

>>50994866
Download the warscrolls and look up the Grand Alliance Order traits and point values in the GHB? If they need a book, they can buy Battletome: Order + GHB.

That's literally all there is to it...

>>50998284
It depends on how many points are spent on surrounding the machine. Too many for them to basically stand there all game, only to possibly be completely ignored and unused.

>>51003261
Typical battleline units can do the job just fine

If units that your opponent MUST bring are easily countering the units you CHOOSE to bring then those are bad units to choose.

Where were you when Tzeentch took back the Old World?
https://youtu.be/5ZeGCIiurmk

>>51002336
Lizardmen that arent fucking ghost memories or whatever. They crashed their spaceship and built a realmgate thats totally not a stargate. Emphasis more on the old technology aspect.

Still writing though, trying to find a way of bringing the theme more to the tabletop, want to figure out a way of making kroxigor that are more like mayan stone constructs.

>>51003065
Spire stuff is all on one sprue, with skaven and elves mixed, theyre not going to spend time splitting up and making new molds when they stuff is so cheap already.

Are Empire Great Cannons any good at all?

>>51004306
They dont exist. Theyre called 'cannon' and part of ironweld arsenal faction. Stock model is the dwarf cannon.

>Thanks to Nurgle, i don't have to 100% make sure that my plaguebearers are uniform, because the changes after shading make them look weird
Th-thanks Papa

>>51004350
Show us

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>>51004931
Grey bases (unbased) are the ones i'm working on today

>>51005086
Looking good dude, you got a nice consistent coat and all the colors are in the line nicely. Once ya got the highlights done, You'll have some nice looking Nurgle Troops

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what is pic related bros?
i don't see it on official gw site

>>50997844
Aelves will come brother, and we shall drink the tears of our enemies

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>>51005175
Thanks. I've only just got basing and shading to an acceptable degree
Highlighting is still a mystery to me, despite watching a lot of Duncan and other tutorials, so i tend to lightly drybrush rasied edges instead

I'm dreading looking forward to painting bigger models like my Drones and Soul Grinder

>>51005086
Fug, Nurgles look better IRL than on the box art

Also
Which faction would be good to play 1000pts games with low model count budget army? Something I could take out of the start collecting box and buy one additional box or model and play a match?

>>51005223
Hero for the Silver Tower game.

>>51005326
>Which faction would be good to play 1000pts games with low model count budget army? Something I could take out of the start collecting box and buy one additional box or model and play a match?
Usually two boxes will be enough to get to 1000 points.
Seraphon start collecting box is 10 warriors, 5 knights, 1 Carnosaur = 540 points.

Add a Stegadon (260) and kitbash a Skink Priest (100) from the bits in the Stegadon box to put you at 900. Add a cheap character like a Skink Starpriest (100) from there and you're at exactly 1000 points.

>>51005223
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/mistweaver-saih

Also available in Silver Tower.

Hoping this is going to be what the next faction of aelves looks like, kind of a mix of dark evles and high elves, somewhere in between.

>>51005366
thanks friend

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>>51005395
Thanks. I don't want to be capricious but could you recommend other useable faction than Dinos? They are like the only one that don't fit my aesthetic tastes

>>51005639
Which start collecting boxes do you like?

Always pick the army you think looks coolest

>>51005639
First off, what alliance do you want to start with?

>>51005685
This right here, fuck the Waac fags, rule of cool always prevails

>>51005685
>>51005704
Guys, I like all of them. Just Seraphon and maybe Bonesplitterz are on the bottom of my "looking cool" ranking. I would say that Ironjawz are pleasing my eyes but it's not this important for me. I just want to keep it budget, low model count and without dinosaurs but I will share your Seraphon tips with my friend

>>51005971
I know what you can do:
>Write down the factions you like on small pieces of paper
>mix them together
>Pick a piece
>That's your new army

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>>51005971
Well, fuck me running - don't really know why but I thought that Bonesplitterz have their own SC! box too

>>51006285
You know - I will actually do that. But which armies should I ignore if I want to play with 20 instead of 50 models? Skavens and Seraphon for sure

>>51006382
more like no army can play with 20 models except everchosen, deathlords, beatclaw etc.
and by limiting yourself so low youll basically end up with shitty list

>>51006439
you can remove the "etc" after the 3 armies. its literraly the only choice

>>51006382
>skaven
>2000pts
>9stormfiends for battleline
>general is archwarlock
>2engineers
>2Warplightning Cannons
>Warpgrinder
>3 warpfire throwers
Done.
18 models. Off the top of my head.

>>51006519
>2000pts
>One model from SC! box
See >>51005326

>>51005326
it will end up shitty no matter what, besides you think that low number of models = less expensive when ots really not.

>>51005326
Th-thanks for replying
On a serious note anon low model count can bite you in the ass hard - remember that the majority of matched play games will be objective based

You WILL need chaff/screening units

>>51006714
>You WILL need chaff/screening units

For cheap cannon fodder I would recommend Slaves to Darkness marauders or beastmen Gors

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>>51006606
as other have pointed youll endup with a shitty army and 20 models is basically impossible exept for 3 factions, which hapoen to be very expensive.

it would literraly be less expensive to run a 1k point horde army in most other factions.

the cheapest "elite army" i van think of is 20 chaos knight and a deamon prince.

21 models and cost like 50-60 € maximum if you buy it online.
it will be the closest to what you want for the cheapest price.

but the real answer is : if your a cheap fuck just dont even start this hobby

>>51006789
okay i check the price and it will be 80€ instead of 50-60€ everything else we told you stay true tho

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>>51002336
A host of Seraphon that follow a particular Slann with varying degrees of dedication to his particular great game. The Slann basically has super white guilt over tge whole old world getting fucked and wants to help normal people BEFORE and AFTER the battles fuck their shit up. This usually means replowing fields after battles.

Farming dinos

With my friends building Skaven and Sylvaneth, I think of them dicking around the Realm of Life where they help repell invading Skaven, or come into conflict with tree people who don't want the land to get plowed.

I have some other details about them solid, but most is still in the ether.

>>51006627
>besides you think that low number of models = less expensive
No no, I don't think so. I mean I would like to build army like this but I don't think that less models = less money spend
>>51006714
Yeah, I know but it's a logistical thing. I would like to spend more time on painting less models rather than with swarm of plastic blobs. Also transporting and storing them would be less problematic in theory

>>51006872
I know this is a meh example but Death get's a great deal from their zombies
>3 x 10 zombies
>3 battleline and can merge into a single better 30 man unit
>180/2000 points

Decide on the army, then look into the best/cheapest screeners

>>51006846
>I have some other details about them solid, but most is still in the ether.

Just open a google document or word, etc and just start writing stuff down before you forget it

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>>51006920
speaking of death, how one should run skeletons ?
small squad or spearmen blob ?
some graveguards and black riders ?
i just don't know

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>>51007381
Thee shall go to 1d4chan for here lie thee answer

>>51007381
No smaller than 20 skellingtons per unit
Hexwraiths > Black Knights

But yeah 1d4chan is usually a good place to start, then come here to get your list critiqued
t. Nurgle anon

>>51006872
Ironjawz have a middling to low model count and their models are some of the nicest to come out of AoS so far, IMO. They also have a start collecting box.

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>>51007381
BONE ZONE
O
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E
Z O N E
O
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>>51007499
which nurgle anon ? theres 2 per thread :(

>>50994077
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN FW MADE AOS GREAT AGAIN ? WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THEY RELEASED A 50 WOUNDS GOREDRAGON OF BLOODY BLOOD BLOODERS OF GORE ?
WHERE. WERE. YOU ?

on an unrelated note, i'll just let you know that some rumors says that January 14 is the day for the tzeentch release and it will be 3 weeks of new models

>>51006920
Recent faq prevents you merging the zombies while still keeping them as multiple battle line slots.

>>51007558
but anon I dont want to paint more than 20 models.
Theres is no Ironjaw list with less than 20 models.

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>>51007680
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
That's so shit

>>51007678
Who's the other one? I'm the the one with this list
-- The Paragons of Flennza (Chaos) --
>Leader
Herald - 100
Lord of Plagues (Bronn Kai) - 100

>Battleline
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100

>Behemoth
GUO - 240 12
Soul Grinder (Blade) - 280

>Other
5x Blightkings - 180
5x Blightkings - 180
3x Plague Drones - 220
5x Chaos Knights (Glaive) - 200
5x Chaos Knights (Glaive) - 200
--2000 points

>>51007678
Oh boy! More Khorne!

Said no one ever

>>51007700
Then you're going to be playing either Varanguard or Soulblight, and paying a whole lot for the privelege.

Or just play very low points value games, like 500pts or something.

>>51007779
Really sorry that khorne players actually arent poor and can buy models.

>>51007804
I don't understand the appeal honestly. It's just constant angry horned demons with blood motif

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>>51007736
Unless this means something else. Sorry to bear bad news my man.

>>51007558
Maybe Stormcasts? With half of Starter Set and SC! box I can actually build an 1000pts army with 23 - 25 models

Leaders
Lord Celestant On Dracoth (220)
- General
- Lightning Hammer
Lord Relictor (80)

Units
Liberators x 5 (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- Battleline
Liberators x 5 (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- Battleline
Paladin Retributors x 5 (220)
Prosecutors with Celestial Hammers x 3 (100)
- Celestial Hammers
Prosecutors with Celestial Hammers x 3 (100)
- Celestial Hammers

Battalions
Thunderhead Brotherhood (80)

Total: 1000/1000

>>51007896
The models, though. I took a 7y break but just came back for those sexy khorne models. Couldnt care less for this angry gore blood waaaaaah thing.

>>51007954
Well it doesn't say zombies, since they have a special rule on their scroll, maybe it's something like "i have 3 x 10 bloodletters, can i merge them"

>>51007896
I just want to bloody field my Bloodsecrator and Bloodstoker near my Blood Warriors and Blood Reavers and when blood flows the Blood God doesn't care from whence the blood flows so I get more blood attacks with your Blood Warrior's Goreaxes and my Blood Reavers' Reaver Blades/Meatripper Axes.
I also love my Skullcrusher and skull reaper reping some skulls for the throne of skulls.

>>51007954
zombies dont merge at set up tho.

>>51008010
>>51008193
Maybe they're fine then. I don't want to spread misinformation, which is why I posted the faq wording for all yall to decide.

>>51007736
Nah, you can merge, just not to above 60.

>>51008146
I know you are joking but that's what it legitimately feels like

>>51002336
Army of angry angry dwarf ancestor spirits who got so pissed about the End Times that they came back to fight for their descendants after death. They're from the War of Vengeance and so stubborn that they refuse to acknowledge any of the 'new-fangled inventions' made since then, so no gunpowder and such. Grombrindal shows up to help them frequently because he's impressed at their stubborn dedication to the old ways (also he probably knew some of them when he was alive anyway and it's nice hanging out with people who miss/lived through the same stuff he does). Sometimes Bugman and Thorek Ironbrow come along too. Lots of rune magic, crossbows, and axe-and-shield.

Now fluff-wise that's great but game-wise I lose every. single. game. because not having gunpowder and using only slow footsloggy melee really fucks dwarfs right up. So I'm trying to slooowly incorporate the least amount of tech I can (probably cannons next).

>>51009377
Just add that a group of ironweld arsenal gunners or freeguild handgunners are so greatfull after they saved them from *insert local threat here*, that they devoted themselves to follow the dwarves

>>51009377
>>51009512
To add onto this, maybe some Stormcaste eternals even grouped up with them (so you can have some heavy and durable hitters to take on elites/behemoths)

>>51009512
>>51009533
You know, I hadn't even thought of that concept and it's SO OBVIOUS now in hindsight, thank you! That's a perfect justification for having a mix of the 'old' and new together.

>>51007678
Honestly the thing that annoys me more than "more Khorne lol" is that it would have been thematic to have a Tzeentch dragon, since there is that constellation dragon which I forgot the name of who has fallen to Tzeentch

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I have never played WHFB and AoS. How would you describe the dwarf gamestyle? Are they "swarmy" or it's better to use them in small units? How newbie-friendly are they etc. Also what can we expect from Steam Dwarf Start Collecting? Sorry for stupid question but I'm considering them as my first army

>>51010527
Lots of small units of ranged firepower, big blocks of melee, then lots of artillery.

Dwarves are "stand and shoot" personified

>>51010527
>Also what can we expect from Steam Dwarf Start Collecting?
As there is literally no information about that army actually existing, try asking again later.

Otherwise, they have good ranged unit, hard to kill melee units, and can be a bit pricey points wise, so you will be having a few small units.
Regular Dwarf Warriors are the only things you will be taking in units of 20 or so realistically.

>>50994077

I don't get this meme... I spray when it's like -40 and the results are great...

>>51010527
Very slow, very durable in melee. Lots of synergy giving rerolls and combat/leadership buffs.

>>51010527
Your melee troops hold the enemy in place while your artillery bombard it.

>>51002336
The dudes I'm fixing up atm (old 6th ed chaos and newer dudes) are a band of Tzeentchian warriors allied with a tribe of dragon ogres. United under the Chaos Lord, he only takes advice from a pair of strange sorcerers called the seekers of secret truths. He is like most lords seeking glory and daemonhood, while the sorcerers are eager to make good use of his warriors for their own ends.

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>>51010527
There will be no StartCollecting duardin because new army always sell very well.
We still have no start collecting for genestealers or fyreslayers.
Khorne and Stormcast got a SC box because they are the starter box.

Ironjaw got an SC box because 80% of the model inside were old black orcs.

Given the hype for steamhead they dont need any SC to sell

>>51010985
The anon referred to was living in a windy climate.
Temperature's got nothing to do with it.

>>51011454
Have you posted here before?

That fluff seems familiar... are the Seekers of Secret Truths a brother-and-sister duo?

This should be the dwarves of sigmar general thread. Dwarf shills circle jerking everywhere.

>>51011881
Well, there were these two goblin gits a few threads ago, and rats before that, and I bet after the next few releases for AoS, birds.

It's just the way these things are, anon. It'll die down in a few threads. A dozen at most.

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>>51011881
Pic related show us the Aelf fag

>>51011979
Gay midget lover right there. I'll never understand the dwarf fags.

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>>51012022
"dwarfs are so gay!1"
- Aelf player

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>>51012022
>pansies
>stunties

>>51012074
>Continues to post gay midget porn

Thinks elves are gay

>>51011871
Posted sure, never my fluff tho. No, they're just a couple of your standard tzeentchian warlocks. I remember that duo tho, had beastmen and stuff in it.

Soooo I have a pretty large chaos dorf collection still largely unbuilt. Pretty close to a sampler of the FW stuff from based Tamurkhan plus some classics.

Are they shit in AoS? I'd love to get them on the table but want to manage my expectations lol

>>51012165
thay are cool.
try maxing out on artillery and having those halfdorfs-halfhorse are mandatory

>>51012107
My grot...ER?
I don't know how to gangsta up the word grot.

>>51010527
If you play them, everyone will think your gay!
> ONE OF US. ONE OF US (insert Simpsons Epcot scene here)

>>51011979
>dwarf bros exploring eachothers tunnels claiming not to be homosexual.

Just own your identity, I really don't even care if you gay.

>>51009377
> pussying out and using cannon instead of the Ancestor Given Grudge Thrower, which literally throws boulders CARVED WITH THE WRONGS DONE TO OUR PEOPLE
Beardling get the fuck out. Your name is in the Book now

>>51012165
Chaosdorfs themselves are kinda mediocre trending towards shit, but they are cheap as chips for what they do, so horde them up and fill up on warmachine and bull-centaurs, where the actual good parts of the army live.

>>51012302
Weedy green bastard usually works well.

>>51012409
Didn't all the old fluff for chaos dwarfs say all the line infantry dwarfs were basically fuck ups and convicts? All the normal chaos dwarfs were manning the guns or going balls out on flying bulls.

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>>51012644
I'm not sure, but FW's chaos dorfs make sense as an army honestly. This is a race of ultra greedy conniving evil cunts who are more focused on slave gathering and mining and constantly building. If anything, the fighting force WOULD be the outcasts and convicts, while the important stuff is handled by the big hat chaos dorfs like you see in the FW models. All the important guys have big hats, while the soldiers are wearing tight restricting shameful iron helmets.

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What would the AoS equivalent of the tyranids look like?

>>51012373
I would use Grudge Throwers and had originally planned on it. Then GW discontinued basically everything I planned on buying before I could get it off Last Chance. All the good old dwarf stuff is OOP.

How are LIZARDMEN? They seem cool, I got interested looking at shit from TW:W

>>51013280
Chaos.

>>51013291
> not scouring eBay and being willing to buy double price
> putting a price on the HONOR OF OUR ANCESTORS
Shave your beard, and take the oath. It is the only way to atone. IF you die well enough

>>51013335
They can do everything well, and have lots of combos to play around with. Can be fighty, magicy, or summon a lot of shit.
Also DINOSAWRS

>>51013406
>Not ordering Chinaman

Shamefur

>>51013432
> No raughing China man pic with post
Get. Out

>>51013428
This Lord Kroak dude seems boss as shit, floating dead frog nuking things with his husk is metal

Do they play hammer and anvil? Do they grind dudes down?

(is hammer and anvil even a thing on tabletop?)

>>51013280
I don't think that sort of thing fits as well in high fantasy as in sci-fi.

Honestly, the Ogres work well already as a "we eat it all" race.

>>51013484
It's a viable strategy, but high mobility is a better one.

Which is why the Seraphon have Terradons.

>>51011852

aaaah. OK. I keep seeing people say 'it's too cold outside to spray' and wondering what they're on about. When it's windy here I just spray my models into a cardboard box in the basement.

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>>51013406

>>50994131
>Fully armored
>4+ save

gw bro...

>>51013544
Wouldn't you get fumes from the spray?

Or is your basement's ventilation not shit like most?

>>51013667
Stormcast line troops, in spite of their armour's thickness, have a 4+ too. It's just how the game is balanced.

Plus, they ignore -1 rend, so that's gotta count for something.

>>51013707
"They" referring to Ironbreakers. Jesus, I need to re-read my posts before clicking that button.

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>>51013676
I prayed in my room with a window opened from 10 to 21.
Then i sprayed in my living room with a window opened.

pic related cost 10€ for 50.

>>51013484
They have one of the best grind down units in the game- Saurus Guard.
But they also have some faster units. And artillery lizards. And 4 different large scary dinosaurs that make nice centerpieces (if you get bored of slann)

>>51013737
Serabro is a name fag on this thread who plays them a lot.
For a name fag, he is ok and helpful if you want advice. I'm just a poor ironjaw and budding moon clan bastard

>>51013776
We should just do a 1d4chan pages with multipel 1k and 2k build for most arimes honestly

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>>51013707
Only ironbreakers and irondrakes are immune to -1 rend sadly.
not glorious pic related

>>51013982
Well, them and almost the entire Seraphon army. Makes that super-special gromril armour not feel very special.

>>50995472
>Disorganized

Let every model is divided up into 4 alliance so you only need one book for anything that could be on the field for your "side"

Reading Gates of Azyr

>I actually like the story.

The Stormcasts sound awesome.

Not sure why people hate on the lore so much.

>>51014085
only whfb grognards hate them.
but tthen they also hated 8th. and 7th. and 6th. and 5. .... and oldhammer, and..

Are rerolls for Save/Wound rolls really *that* amazing? I'm comparing melee units to each other and I just can't wrap my head around the 'balance'.

Which army has the best qt's? I'm trying to pick my next army to build and I am a very sad and simple man.

>>51014760
Rerolls to save: Yes. Very much so. Making your guys harder to kill is nearly always a good investment, especially if they have 4+ or better saves.
Rerolls to wound: Yes, but not as much as to hit. They can, however, be useful if you have high base to-hit values already.

Be aware, however, that in some cases you just won't have access to some of these buffs. For example, dwarfs of all kinds can give themselves rerolls to wound much more easily than to hit, and that is peanuts compared to what shields do for their saves.

>>51015064
I was comparing freeguild guard, dwarf warriors, saurus warriors, bleakswords, and spireguard. A casual glance seems like saurus are crazy good ignoring rend of 1 and having like 3x the attacks that the others do, so I was trying to figure out what must it be about those other units that makes them worth taking versus that.

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>>51014952

>>51015135
>That art

Thank FUCK FantasyFlight no longer has GW rights for RPGs

>>51015131
thing is, you cant compare them in a vaccum.

For exemple, simple skelettons will crush any of those you looked at just because of abilities within the army.

Basic saurus warrior are also just the worth thing you could take in a seraphon army by far.

>>51014022
I play dwarves against my seraphon buddy all the time, rend not mattering unless its -2 is some bullshit. thats why I'm loving my steamtanks steamcannon at 30" range 3/2/-2/d6 with rerolls against his groups of temple guards

>>51015157
Idk, that Witch Hunter lady looks kinda badass. Slayer looks awful though.

>>51015188
Mkay that's kinda what I was starting to wonder. Me comparing them in a vacuum. So really the only way to gauge how good things are is experience and 1d4chan?

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>>51015195
Our time will come soon brother, soon.

>>51015188
the worst**

>>51015250
or go to any FLGS and ask people

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Does this look like an appropriate Chaos Dwarf 1000 point list?

This is the current incarnation of my Dispossessed list.

1 Warden King 120 (General)
2 Runelords 160
1 Josef Bugman 100

10 Warriors 100
10 Longbeards 140
10 Quarrellers 120
10 Ironbreakers 160
10 Miners 120

1000 points exactly.

For the Relic Blade in the back of GHB, it says "Pick one weapon that the bearer can use (it cannot be a weapon used by a mount if they have one). Increase the Damage characteristic of that weapon by 1."

If your general has a weapon that deals D3 damage, does it then deal 2D3, or D3+1?

>>51016657
Youre 40 points over, just make sure your opponent is okay with that

>>51017040
D3+1.

>>50994077
So, i've still got about 200$ worth of Christmas money to spend, and im looking to start a new army. Any ideas?

>>51017540
scroll this thread for inspiration

>>51017572
Im seeing a lot of Dorfs. What are they like?

>>51017679
Slow. Tough.

Use ranged units and you won't be disappointed.

So the question is, do I start a dwarf army now, or wait till steamhead?

I got a metric ton of Khemri on sprues for Christmas, how playable are they ? Especially Necropolis Knights.

>>51018156
I'd say wait. They might have some good stuff.

If you don't want to wait, Dispossessed and Fyreslayers are what you're looking for. Just remember to take Auric Hearthguard if you use Fyreslayers - they're the only dedicated ranged unit they've got - and use plenty of heroes for their entirely necessary buffs. Mathematically the Fyreslayers should be great, but in practice, it turns out math is not the be-all and end-all of unit effectiveness. (Shocking, right?)

>>51018193
Wha-what!? But MATHS anon! T-the MATHS!!!

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Cant choose between FW GUO and Tamurkhan
Which one should i buy?
im leaning towards Tamurkhan

>>51018965
Tamurkhan

People see GUOs all the time.
Tamurkan is rare.

>>51018193
Do people play fyreslayers? They just look really ugly to me desu

>>51018193
This runs in conflict with mah spreadsheet lord excell is never wrong REEEEEEÈEEEEEEE

>>51017679
Gay
Your not a faggot, are you anon?
Just, you know, sayin'.

>>51018965
I feel like the GUO fits into more lists though... while does the fat man on the toad really click with? Some super specific forge world list, that probably sucks?
Which will get you more milage

>>51017015
Min squads can suffer in this game, but I'll be damned if all those different units together won't look cool. And 50 models at 1000 seems like a lot. That counts for something

How is an all skeletons/zombies army? The start collecting box looks like a decent deal, and I can expand with some Mantic zombies.

>>51019337
Im super new to WH and just want to build a fun nurgle army
Ive always found him as the coolest of the chaos gods
I bought the aos starter with khorne and "space marines" but i dont really have any fun painting them

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>>50994077

Any word on the second edition of the General's Handbook?

Long time Fantasy player thinking of switching to rounds. Lack of players has finished me off although I still hate AoS lore and most of the new models.

I do think 28mm has always been more suited to a skirmish game though.

>>50997444

How the fuck are their tops attached? Nipple adhesive or some shit?

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I can't find the rules for this one.

Does someone have them?

>>51015264
is that official art?

>>51019501

Looks like D&D to me.

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>>51014952
Probably Dark Elves. Particularly if you swap in some Dark Eldar heads on your female spear-elves and crossbow-elves, to go with the Sorceresses and Witch Elves.

Aside from that you've got the monstrous girls in Slaanesh and Sylvaneth as well as the odd female model here and there in the other elves, vampires, etc.

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what is your stances on mangler squigs? I have personally sued them in a game and they kick ass in 1000 points. would it be too busted if i brought another in a 1500 point game? all i can say so far is they are definitely worth the $96 dollerydoos i paid
>but you can make 2 with the one kit
>Literally the same as chopping the arm of a mourngul and calling it a second mourngul

>>51019599
Believe it or not, but in the most jewish of moves GW FAQ'd that a single Mangler Squig on a base is considered to be not fully assembled and therefore unplayable in GW events. Take that as you will.

>>51019599
>but you can make 2 with the one kit
>Literally the same as chopping the arm of a mourngul and calling it a second mourngul
If you honestly think it's the same thing, then you may want to check your rampant autism with your doctor.

>>51013667
This is not 40k or WHFB, a 4+ save is the norm for fully armoured troops. Only heroes or monsters have more.

>>51018173
Probably the best army in the game atm. Run 2x6 units of NKs to crush your opponents. Buff with settra and king on cat.

>>51014085
Because the majority of haters just looked at some pics, labelled them as "fantasy Space Marines" and refused to read anything about them.

They are more similar to Eiherjar, which is a pretty fantasy concepts and a lot appropriate considering that Sigmar now is also more similar to Odin than Thor.

>>51019448
It's probably going to be around July. IIRC it was going to be one edition each year.

>>51019713
>>51019700
what i meant was it was the same level of stupidity

>>51019478
Look at the rules for it on either the AoS app or the it's store page on the GW website

>>51019817

Alright cheers. So every July there's going to be a new version of it? Are they sticking with the format of having the rules in these faction sourcebooks and then one book for all the points?

The only thing that puts me off at the moment is that I have no idea what's happening with half the factions. They seriously need to hurry up and tidy things up.

>>51019864
They should just go back to

Order
- Humans
- Elves
- Dwarfs
- Stormcast

Chaos
- Mortals
- Demons
- Skaven

etc. etc.

It's far too stratified at the moment.

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Should I add a pupil to the main eye? Maybe a yellow iris with a red dot in it? Supposed to be tzeenchian.

>>51019954

I like it as is but maybe give it a sharper highlight so it looks like a jewel.

>>51018193
>it turns out math is not the be-all and end-all of unit effectiveness. (Shocking, right?)

There is also the question of how retarded is the guy/girl playing the game with those fyreslayers. It is my experience that a retarded general can and does lose every time even with the odds in their favor.

>>51019969
I tried going silver>soulstone blue, but looked just meh, might do a mix of silver and temple guard blue?

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>>51020005

Try the O' razzle dazzle.

>>51020020
True enough, maybe I just have to resort to that. I liked the metallic look the soulstone gave though.

>>51013432
How can I order from Chinaman when I don't know how to order from Chinaman?

>>51020294
do you want to know, brotha?

>>51020330
Yes that is the veiled request I was making.

>>51020353
https://mega.nz/#F!hEUhGZAD!Mqx_Xc2wNqdnLwVMMvijxg

for an order FAQ, check:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yoyhammer/comments/3ohgg7/new_to_yoyhammer_my_friends_and_i_want_to_place/

https://www.reddit.com/r/yoyhammer/comments/2crtba/how_to_order_from_zhanchui_a_simple_step_by_step/

If you're an EUfag like me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yoyhammer/comments/3zwh4x/european_union_customs_indepth_faq/

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Does this look viable my dudes? What can I swap out for better stuff if need be

>>51013291
GA: Order Made to Order is coming soon, so you might be able to pick a couple up then.