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Happy New Year Edition

>resources
pastebin.com/vv6y7fLu

>General's Handbook pdf
https://mega.nz/#!DxRGmTZL!x_L0eobCjr4qrF7enhVlZ2DffTtRa3hdDrc5RctcAbE

>OP image album
imgur.com/a/fHkqJ

Old thread: >>50912843

>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use READIUM for PC or KOBO on Android)
mega:///#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!C0Z2nZyQ
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First for Steamhead Duardin
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Oh hey there. We bet the word ‘rumour’ is what drew you to this article. It would have grabbed our attention too. Speculating wildly about future releases is an essential part of the Warhammer hobby*. To nudge things along a little, we snuck into the Design Studio and snapped a photo of something that’s coming next year. Unfortunately, photography is not our strong suit…

See you next week for another game of ‘What am I looking at?!’.

*Well, not really, but it sure makes for fun reading!

>strong suit
>SUIT
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>>50964545
Sauce
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>>50964545
That model is awesome, dorf Blood Bowl team?
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>>50964591
Google says Blood Bowl
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>>50964623
Those glorious models...
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>>50964623
Looks pretty darn good
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>>50964566

SHOW THE DUARDIN YOU CUNTS.
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>>50964623

here's hoping that means we're getting new dwarf models for AoS soon.
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Can anyone recall a unit with an ability to pile in and attack before being attacked, or something similar? I swear I remember reading it but I can't remember what unit.

Currently looking through Slaanesh rules because that seemed like a good fit, thematically.
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>>50964545
>>50964566
>>50964796
>>50964839

steam head duarden release soon is a lie. Maybe someday but they will do a steam head duarden release but there is no evidence one is being developed at this time. Key word here is "evidence".
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Whats the best daemon army? Torn between Nurgle and Tzeentch aesthetically. Is undivided demons a thing?
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>>50964959
What are you smoking, we already know the release is first quarter 2017, all the managers know it and the rumor image literally has a duardin logo stamped on the fucking front.
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>>50965005
Can I get a source on this? Not doubting you, I just wanna know more info.
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>>50965014
Here is your source
>>50964566
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>>50965034
And you sure that's Warhammer AoS Duardin and not Blood Bowl Duardin?
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>>50965014
Thats it, there is no more information. First quarter duardin mech suits and elves apperantly, but he didnt know if the elves were AoS or LotR.

Seperately he mentioned the next AoS release window is february, so that looks like when well know.
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>>50965040
He said mech suits, so unless therell be one in blood bowl its going to be AoS.
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Hey AoS general. Long time board gamer but first time games workshop hobbyist. How good a value is the age of sigmar starter box if I have nothing? I am thinking that I want to play seraphon or sylvaneth but from what I read the stormcast are really useful at plugging up weak points in other armies?

Am I better off just buying a get started! seraphon/sylvaneth and just slowy building/painting that? Thanks /aos/
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I'm torn. I really like both Sylvaneth and the Flesh Eater Courts. What are the pros and cons of each army? I like the Sylvaneth a lot from what I've read but they seem too tied to the wildwoods. I've played 40k since 5th ed and am looking for something new to play alongside my genestealer army
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>>50965256
Just buy directly seraphon or sylvaneth.start collecting
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>>50965068
source on this?
>>50965034
that is not a source.

>>50964566
that's a picture of the new death roller for dwarf blood bowl to update the one in this picture.
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>>50965322

Anon do you follow the story on AoS at all?

It's tzeentch vs. steamheads in the realm of metal.
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>>50965364
>It's tzeentch vs. steamheads in the realm of metal.

source on that?

wishful thinking is not a source.
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>>50965382
Idk, the 2 hour long official stream on disciple of tzeentch ?
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>>50964893
Daemon Prince.
It's in the bog-standard non-aligned Daemons section.
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>>50965425
>Idk, the 2 hour long official stream on disciple of tzeentch ?
so the steam punk dwarves get mentioned in the new tzeench fluff. Its a HUGE stretch to claim that is proof that stream head dwarden are going to be released any time soon.
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>>50965382
It's also been sprinkled throughout several of the Tomes that Tzeentch and the Duradin have been dueling it off in the Realm of Metal.
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>>50965557
>>50965553
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>>50965553
Dont you have this Awsome and so wildly played 9th edition of WHFB to play ?
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>>50965614
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>>50965464
Thank you anon.

I was looking for inspiration for a custom warscroll idea. Dwarf beer maidens, when attacked you can pick another dorf unit to pile in because Not the Beer! and wondered if there was precedent or I was just nuts.

I ended up scrapping the idea anyway, but it's good to know I wasn't crazy.
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>>50965256

It is very good value BUT if you don't like the models in it, I'd suggest you buy the Start Collecting Sylvaneth or Seraphon box set instead because you mentioned your interest in those 2 factions. Both of their boxes have very good value.
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>>50966128
>>50965297

Thank you anons. I am torn between seraphon and sylvaneth.
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>>50966174
do you like painting ? if yes take seraphon, if not take sylvaneth. they are MUCH easier to paint.
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>>50965256

I just got the starter set and its pretty damn nice.

I like the khorne models, but not the eternals so much, so im debating selling them or trading them for more chaos stuff hopefully.
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>>50966448
might be able to do a straight swap with someone else who bought the starter. i was thinking of doing that actually.
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Why are Empire/Free guild gun lines so OP in Aos? I got my ass kicked when I ran them in 7th/8th Ed.
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>>50966977
you couldnt shoot while in melee in Whfb
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>>50966977
because in whfb you had shit like 1 lone Sabertusk or 5 direwolf that could completely block a 20 strong empire gunline from doing anything even if only a single part of 1 model was in contact
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anyone know where to find the age of sigmar painting guide?
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So, I've recently come into the possession of a large quantity of LOTR easterlings.
I've got 20 guys with spears, and 60 odd sword+shield guys , 30 archers and 6 of the horsemen and a few special characters. (some mounted, some not)
What army would be the best use for these models?
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>>50967630
how much greenstuff are you willing to waste lmao
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>>50967630
im gonna say dark elves/whatever the fuck dark elves are called in AoS
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>>50967725
Dark Elves got split up.
The sorceresses and all infantry bar Corsairs and Witch Elves are Darkling Covens.
Corsairs, horse chariots and Kharibdyss are Scourge Privateers.
Witch Elves, Sisters of Slaughter, Doomfire Warlocks, Cauldron of Blood etc. are Daughters of Khaine.
Cold One units and Hydra are Order Serpentis.
Assassins and Dark Riders are Shadowblades.


>>50967630
Darkling Covens & Shadowblades combo could work. Make sure your hero characters can be reasonably proxied as an assassin or sorceress.
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>>50967630
Freeguild or dork elves, I'd say. Spearmen, swordsmen and archers are prevalent in both factions.
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>>50964989
Only standard DP and Furies.
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>>50964989
Only Daemons?
Probably Slaanesh.

But Nurgle and Khorne gives you room to expand in the future with compatible allies, and Tzeentch is about to get a release which will give them some cool stuff.
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>>50964989
I've started Nurgle w/ Mortals
So far Khorne and Nurgle will give you useful mortals to use, while Tzeentch has new releases in Jan

Slaanesh is kinda just there atm
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>>50967658
absolutely none
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New White Dwarf is up.
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>>50968456
>Earliest i'll get it is Tuesday, because Monsay is a bank holiday
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>50968453
GL then. I honestly would not let you field those if you just half ass threw them on the table and said ayylmao these are ____
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Sup, nerds.
So, in your nerdy opinion, what are the best and worst Sigmar releases of 2016?
For example,
Best: General's Handbook (Make Age of Sigmar great again actually for the first time)
Worst: Lord Veritant (boring witchunter Sigmarine with a boring model and boring rules)
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>>50968474
GW pls leave
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>>50968474
Best looking release last year imo is Alarielle. Also, that Gryph-hound in your pic is good looking.
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>>50967164
>lone sabertusk/5 wolves charge
>get kicked by stand and shoot and following close combat
>free to shoot next turn
want to know how I know you didn't actually play?

>inb4 flank charge
>blaming the game for not outmanoeuvring the enemy
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>>50967630
play LOTR you fucking queer.

unless you're going for a 'try before buy' thing. thats cool i guess.
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>>50968529
even then this jew should just go play in store.
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>>50968469
>All these sword and shield dudes are Empire sword and shield dudes
Is that really so hard to wrap your head around?
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>>50968465
>being this fucking poor
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>>50968529
I would if anybody else actually played it.
I dig the models, but I'd like to play a game that other people actually do.
There's a decent AoS and KoW group at my LGS. LOTR doesn't exist.
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>>50968587
bank holiday = no mail delivery m8

>>50968592
you obviously paid nothing for those models. Just drop some money on greenstuff and convert them into chaos or maybe even dryads
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>>50968456
Up where?
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>>50968587
I have it on yearly sub, i just know the Royal Mail can be either based or utterly shit
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>>50968615
Oh my mistake. Well hopefully based in this case.
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>>50968602
Problem is that Chaos doesn't have an archer option. I really wish marauders had javelins or throwing axes at the very least.
Freeguild looks to be the way to go.
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>>50968474
>Best: General's Handbook
Kind of a pointless question.
I think nobody would question that.
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WarhammerTV has posted a teaser video for the Tzeentch Arcanites
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>>50968682
We already saw it in the Disciples of Tzeentch livestraming, the 21th of December.
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>>50968456
As in pfd? Where famalam?
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>>50968630
How about some Iron Wind Metals Chaos Archers?
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>>50968682
deja vu

still nice, hope they make more
slaanesh isn't even addressed anymore
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>>50967630
Realm of Beasts Free Peoples
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>>50968754
as in rules wise they dont have anything resembling bows afaik but that model is swell
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>>50968875
Yeah. I was thinking of getting some if I ever need some evil archer minis. They're exactly what a chaos archer should look like.
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>>50968615
I work for Royal Mail and I have a subscription, mine still hasn't arrived. I rang GW customer support and they said they'd send out a new one, but they couldn't do it until the 6th of January.

Pretty shitty considering I've got all of the previous ones on like the 21st of each month, not sure what happened to my January copy.
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>>50969094
Yeah m8 i know, i was like "where is my copy" on the 21st - was hoping to leak it here and 40k gen

Oh well, at least i have my Nurgle list to do
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>>50968474
If not counting General's Handbook (since that would be the only right answer)
Best: Battletome: Flesh Eater Courts. Because finally GW expanded the undead from simple and one-dimensional cartoon villain faction to something far deeper and diverse.

Worst: The White Dwarf. No new model, just repainted old slayer model.
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>>50968509
since when 6 archer could kill a sabertusk on average ? or even win a comba vs wolfs ?

also please, link me all those empire gunline winnjng tournament. i mean they clearly got no weakness.
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>>50969320
>that White Dwarf mini
Oh yeah. I had completely blanked on that bullshit. Holy fuck, that was terrible.
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>>50969343
BUT LIMITED EDITION PACKAGING!
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>>50969342
Of course they got killed.
Faggot here probably outmaneuvered easily fast chaff with 5 wide 4deep full command block of handgunners.

>>50968509
No wonder whfb died with cancer cells as big as you.
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>>50969320
I seem to remember they said that they hadn't had the time to make a new WD, hopefully we'll get a new model this year. He's at least better represented in the advent fluff than his shitty model plan.
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>>50969342
>since when 6 archer could kill a sabertusk on average ?

>stand and shoot reaction
>20 shots on a 6 due to skirmish and charge malus
>3~ hits on a 5+
>at least 1 wound

>tusk: 3 attacks
>hits on 3+
>wounds on 3+
>2.7~ wounds
>+1 to combat resolution for charge

>archers: 6 attacks
>hit on 4
>wound on 5+
>1 wound
>minimum 1+ to resolution thanks to rank

>5 wolves

>stand and shoot reaction
>20 shots on a 5+ for charge malus
>6~ hits that wound on a 4+
>3 ded doggies

>6 archers: 6 attacks
>hit on 4+, wound on 4+
>1.5 wounds

>apply combat resolution

and these would be archers, not even arquebusiers or crossbows

>>50969342
>tournaments
way to move the goalpost
"lone wolves" units were not used to interfere with shooting units, but simple warmachines and as sacrifices to cheese combat blocks into advantageous angles.

don't talk shit if you don't know shit, or at least don't exaggerate.
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>>50969413
>No wonder whfb died with cancer cells as big as you.
>still blaming players for the faults of the company
I bet you believe lotr/hobbit got to stay because it sold more than whfb
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>>50969547
>>2.7~ wounds
I'm an idiot, sorry, it's 1.3~ here
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>>50968786
atleast they didnt mention the fucking rat in her place, which is a glint of hope
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Bumping with my Nurgling, which i used for testing the paint scheme
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>>50967630
>easterlings
???
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>>50968474
Best is the GHB, obviously.
2nd best was the battleforce boxes
Worst release was the white dwarf mini
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Shit sorry I'm late, hungover
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>>50970875
damn son even dorfs build a better wall
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>>50968474
best is GHB.

Best of 2017 will be STEAM-MOTHERFUCKING-DUARDIN.
Make DORFS GREAT AGAIN.
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Got my email reply from Chinaman, and apparently everything is 15% off currently, noyce
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So I got a trove of old school brets for christmas to go alongside the stuff I already have. Is the peasant batallion good enough at 1k? I might do that up after my current project.
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>>50966977
They aren't, they are just strong in a very certain circumstance.
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>>50968474
Best: Sylvaneth and Generals Handbook.
Entire Sylvaneth model range looks great.

Worst: Everything Stormcast and Khorne. I hope to god they are fucking done with them for now.
Honourable mention going to Kurnoth Hunters, purely for all the shit flinging arguments they brought along with them.
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>>50970722
Damn, I would like to mix my skaven army with daemons somehow but everyone is talking about these dwarfs and they look so good I'm already thinking about dropping the rats
Also didn't I saw you somewhere else, did I? >>50969256 [s/poiler]
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>>50971497
Guilty
I always try and get as much feedback as possible, nice to see another Xposter though

Tbh dude i'd wait until new WD drops, see if there's any Duradin teases/rumours in Jan and if not go for the Skaven/Daemon combo
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What are the differences in playstyle between nurgle mortals and nurgle daemons?
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>>50971374
Theres no argument to be made sonce eveybody uses swords. as they should.
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>>50971566
theres little to none.
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>>50971532
If you're serious about duardin, hold that thought until january.
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>>50971732
Shit, I mean february, as that's when everyone says stuff will be revealed.
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>>50971532
Is Skaven x Nurgle romance reasonable if my army has no pestilens and nurgle keyword right now?
I have already picked two SoD boxes and borrowed a Warp Lightning Cannon to build a 1k pts list but probably I would like to brew something bigger someday - maybe 2k pts.
I don't really know If should I go into 100% "pure skaven" army with Pestilens SC! Box if it is even possible or got into Skaven/Chaos keywords
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30 Skeletons
15 Black knights
1 Mortis Engine/Coven Throne
1 Wight king with blade
1 Necromancer.
Should I just buy another wight king, 10 more skeletons and then just some high impact pieces?
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>>50971803
Not a bad start
If you want to go full Bone Zone then bring Settra, a Necrotect, and a Liche Priest
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>>50971792
I'm not really that knowledgable about AoS, i do apologise. But i'll do what i'd do if i was starting Pestiliens https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/The_Clans_Pestilens
I'm running Daemons + Nurgle Mortals, and thanks to here made a pretty nice list (on paper anyway)
It's all about the keyword synergy anon in AoS

Thoughts on my not based Plaguebearer?
>I love Typhus Corrosion
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Would I be a dick to run this for Mortal Nurgle at 1000 pts.?

The Glottkin
5x Blightkings
5x Blightkings
Festus

I'm not a WAAC player, I really just love the Glottkin. The idea is that Festus can help solve the Blightkings lack of Rend, and the whole army has a lot of heals.

Thoughts?
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>>50971895
dont worry, you are nowhere near a waacfag woth a list like that. Pretty much the opposite in fact
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>>50971895
You play with only 4 units and 12 models. It wouldn't be waac at all, and you'll have your fair share of problems at objectives and similar.
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>>50971895
how do you think you would fare against even a mid tier casual list like we got in the last thread ?

>>50953180 for example ?
And what about the high tier seraphon 1k list we got in the other threads ?

long story short youll just be a NPC to the other gamer. There is no way any of your actions will impact the game because you'll just be able to fight (roll dice) to what your opponent sends into you.
And he will not charge something he cannot crush in 1 turn.
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Starting a Stormcast Eternal army with the Battleforce and SC! boxes.

I'm still working on a colour scheme.

If you have one of these chambers, post em - I need some inspiration
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>>50971982
>no mention of kroak vortex
>no mention of competitive tournament player tripfags shitting all over everyone
>no mention of assuming that playing with point automatically means competitive tournament play
>no mention of people begging for steam dwarves
>no mention of GW ignoring AoS as they have been and not releasing anything significant for a long long time... seriously new models WHEN???
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>>50972050

I'll be playing casual games with friends. I will be fighting Seraphon, Vamps, and Stormcast.

I'm open to suggestion, maybe I'm overestimating the power of the Glottkin.

I thought the army would have good synergy with all the heals, making up for Nurgle's footslogging on the way in. A "Rotstar" if you will.
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>>50966174
Go syllvaneth. They are perfect for beginners.
Also, check out Duncan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZUfPnves4
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>>50972140
not mine but the first 3 is about waacfagging, you could filled 20 bingo with only waacfagging.

beg for dwarf is literraly newer than the bingo
and last : new models literraly next week.
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>>50972171
i understand its a new player list obviously.
But nothing in your list can survive massed shooting or a grimwrath berzerker equipped like the list above.
Theres nothing to heal if everyone is dead.

look up the past threads there have been nurgle list and critics posted (1 in every of the last 5 threads)

Even in casual environment, it will be no fun playing with or against that, you can have a much more fun time by adding chaos knight or plagues drones and be able to counter some things.
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>>50967876
>Dark Elves got split up.The sorceresses and all infantry bar Corsairs and Witch Elves are Darkling Covens.Corsairs, horse chariots and Kharibdyss are Scourge Privateers.Witch Elves, Sisters of Slaughter, Doomfire Warlocks, Cauldron of Blood etc. are Daughters of Khaine.Cold One units and Hydra are Order Serpentis.Assassins and Dark Riders are Shadowblades.

I have a theory about this. Some asshat at GW had a boner for destroying the elves and managed to mutilate them by breaking them into impotent worthless factions. Its such a joke how worthless all the new elf mini factions are.
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is there anyway to field very high model count armies that doesn't come across as being an annoying ass?

not that it matters as the only AoS group in my area meets on the nights I have to work late, so I can't ever play anyway
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>>50972176
>One of the hardest armies to use properly
>Only bad Duncan Guide
>Perfect for beginners

Are you the anti-christ?
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>>50972293
>Kurnoth with swords and close combat only dryads are hard

When will this meme end ? Is it sykvaneth player trying to persuade themselves they play like 7th ed wood elf or something ? Looks more like beastclaw riders than anything.
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>>50972318
It is mostly getting used to the movement shenanigans, since most Sylvaneth units will be destroyed point for point outside of Wyldwoods.
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>>50972220

>massed shooting
>chaos knights or plague drones

So my problem is lack of tarpit and low speed?
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GW deserves to fold for squatting tomb kings, does anyone have the link to the chinacast ones?
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>>50972171
>I'm open to suggestion, maybe I'm overestimating the power of the Glottkin.
Yeah you are, Glottkin is not a very powerful fighter (for his point cost there are better offensive options) and is best used as a buff/support piece in 2000pt games.

The command ability is great but any other chaos general can use the Lord of War trait instead, and that trait is completely bonkers on Blightkings because of their hit6 ability. His spell is great (especially on a screening unit of Plaguebearers) but the high casting value makes it unreliable.

His shooting attack is extremely powerful... if it hits. On 3+/4+ it's only a 33% chance to cause a wound, and then you get a save roll.

His healing ability is usually not enough to keep him alive because he is just a huge walking target, but if you put him near some Damned terrain you can take D3 mortal wounds, then immediately heal D3, and get a +1 hit buff (I do this all the time with my Death units that can ressurect)

He's a lot of fun to use because he fits the defensive Nurgle playstyle perfectly, but he is a big target and easy to play around in small games.
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>>50972286
High model count armies are annoying but they get hard countered by lots of things.

The worst thing is having to move 100+ models. Fuck that shit.
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>>50972347
look in the old threads there the link somewhere just CTRl+F "mega"
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>>50972383
I love the flavor of light infantry but heavy infantry seem so much more practical for this reason
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>>50972347
TK are not squatted. They still have rules (which were updated a week ago) and are one of the strongest armies in the game.

GW isn't producing their models any more but that could change at literally any moment. They weren't producing some high elf models and they just recently brought them back with Spire of Dawn. I'm not holding my breath that TK are coming back but anything is possible.

If you want chinacast then google yoyhammer or read the last aosg
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>>50971895
Its not a Waac list. Glottkin damage relies heavily on his shooting-which will hit ponly once or twice.
His buff capability is amazing but works better on 1 wound/attack units.
You'll have a lot of problems because you have only 12 models.
Its interesting, and can punch a lot of damage, but definetely not waac.
Also, any warmachine will tear your units apart.
If I were you i'd cut 5x blightkings and add as many plaguebearers i could for some objective-grabbing meat. You can also buff them to theextreme. 2 wounds 2 attacks plaguebearers are nasty little bastards.
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>>50972339
Just low speed.
you also need something that hits like a grimwrath berserker or Ironjaw Megaboss.
Glottkin hits hard but its way too expensive at that point level
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if your army isn't fast with good saves and powerful long range shooting (think 40k scatbikes) go back to the drawing board
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>>50972365

Thanks for the input Serabro. I always wanted to field the Glottkin and I was pumped when I didn't need 2,000 pts. Of generic Chaos (mostly Marauders) to do so.

I wasn't expecting him to do all the killing, I thought I could win with toughness, heals, and attrition, but I guess I underestimated the amount of firepower that could potentially be brought against me.
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>>50972423

That was my thought too. I have 40 pts. To spare in my original list, it would be great to get a Nurgle Sorcerer Lord in there because his spell on Blightkings could be completely nasty.

What do you think about Festus?
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>>50972483
festus is nice, but remember you have only a 50% chance to cast the spell. Outside of that, he is not that useful.
You really need more meat in there if you want to use the glottkin in 1k points. You definetely don't need 2 sorcerers(in addition to the glottkin too)when you are so low on models!
remember to always keep the general with the +1 to hit trait with you blightkings.
Because this way you'll generate attacks with a 5+ instead of a 6, or even 4+ if you roll a 6 when attacking due to chaos trait! You'll launch so many dices you wo't be able to hold them.
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>>50968911
>>50968875
Ungor raiders with bows
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>>50971088
Both battalions are stellar
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>>50972539

Got it. Thanks for all the input. I haven't bought my second box of Blightkings yet, so I'll switch in some Plaguebearers like was suggested.

Though I'll have to do some more figuring because Blightkings are only Battleline with Mortal Nurgle allegiance.
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Made a quick chart that shows the success chance of abilities that use two dice rolls (charge, casting spells, etc.)
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>>50972666
My 2 cents:
Throw away festus, get 120 more points for a total of 300.
get 2 units of 10 plaguebearers for 2 battlelines, use the last 100 to get a sturdy hero to help your kings on the battlefield, like a plague lord(or a slaughterpriest for that 18" objective grabber prayer)
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>>50964545
>be GW
>dress dwarfs in power armor
>but refuse to revive Squats
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What do you guys think of Ogres/Gutbusters ?
Does anyone have experience with them ?
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>>50972771
>Bloodbowl armour is Power Armour

What?
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Which paint would be the best to use both on fur and wooden elements? I have plenty of models to paint and I want to use as few new paints as possible. I thought about mournfang brown
- with agrax earthshade on wooden shields
- with reikland fleshshade on fur
Or is there any paint that would work better with those two shades?
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>>50973182
im partial to dryad bark
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>>50972124
Astral templars?
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>>50972778
I'm a bit biased because I play them and get Shit stomped by them all the time.

Bulls are pretty meh but can easily bully lesser troops , putting them against units like blood warriors and liberators is an easy fight for them

Leadbelchers don't do that much damage but they can throw loads of dice at key targets, roll well and they can out a huge dent in the Enemy

Scrap launcher doesn't do shit

Butcher is a decent wizard and his reaching into the pot is always helpful, seriously the +1 to hit on ironguts is unfair

Ironguts are incredible. They molest my army almost every game because it's hard to avoid d6+6 move and charge. 3 damage a swing at 3 swings each is not fun for any enemy

Tyrants are good melee fighters but their command ability only really shines on grots, since ogres are hard to kill to begin with

I'm not too familiar with any other units since this is what I have fielded against me all the time.
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>>50973477
in that case i may give them a try, thanks

Should i paint one of them green and call him shrek ?
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>>50972778
They are solid, but not without issues.
The Destruction trait helps them big time, turning them into pseudo-cavalry, and they have enough wounds to survive some incidental damage, but their shit saves and low numbers mean that they can't withstand a concentrated effort for long. Also, they are fucked at range.
Ironguts were the long-time gold standard for monstrous infantry and are still plenty scary with their Damage 3 weapons, reasonable saves and solid everything else.
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>>50973607
Everybody and their dog has made that joke.
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>>50973688
than i wont do it

at least not for now
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>>50972771
they dont have the IP for squats.
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>>50966448

Eternals can actually be converted into really good looking chaos units.
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New to Stormcast, want to build a Warrior Brotherhood list. How does this look?

Leaders
Celestant-Prime (360)
Knight Azyros (100) - Artefact: Quicksilver Potion
Lord Celestant (100) - General - Trait: Reckless - Artefact: Quicksilver Potion

Units
Liberators x 5 (100) - Warhammers
Liberators x 5 (100) - Warhammers
Liberators x 5 (100) - Warhammers
Judicators x 10 (320) - Boltstorm Crossbows
Judicators x 5 (160) - Boltstorm Crossbows
Paladin Retributors x 5 (220)
Paladin Retributors x 5 (220)
Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins x 3 (80)

Battalions
Warrior Brotherhood (140)

Total: 2000/2000

Judicators have Thunderbolt Crossbows to help clear enemy screens before a charge, Liberators have Grandhammers.

The plan is to use Lightning Strike to put the Azyros into play 9" away from an enemy and then put the rest of my army into play within 5" of the Azyros.

There are only two deployments so you can usually guarantee getting to choose to go 2nd. If you can get a double turn you can use the Azyros and Celestant abilities in that hero phase to massive effect.
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>>50974163
Huh, what program are you using?
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>>50974163
Bolstorm crossbow is 2 attacks not 3.
also "chance per damage done" means literally nothing in english.
And as you are all footslogging, believe me you want to shoot with more than12" range
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>>50974247
http://tools.druchii.net/AoS-Combat-Calculator.php?q=r:336:6:1:m000&s=

>>50974435
Boltstorm Crossbow gets 3 attacks if you don't move in the movement phase. Using Lightning Strike to enter play does not count as a move.

>And as you are all footslogging, believe me you want to shoot with more than12" range

Maybe you should look up what a Warrior Brotherhood does. I even wrote in my post what the plan was...
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>>50974163
The Celestant Prime is doing shit-all for your force, he's ranged support that can't do too much because your entire force will sit in the enemy's grill most of the time.
The Azyros is fire & forget, the potion is utterly wasted on him since his melee damage is garbage anyway. (Also not too fond of that potion on the Lord-Celestant, but it makes a little more sense.)
Thunderbolt Crossbows are very meh. The Shockbolt Bow is leagues better when it comes to thinning out anything and are better against most monsters, too.
The rest is good.
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Sigmarines look amazing when they're alone in a unit of non-sigmarines

They look dumb as fuck when they're in units of other sigmarines
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>>50974488
I use Celestant Prime for his shooting attack and reducing enemy bravery, not his melee profile. D3 mortal wounds to everything within a 6" radius is massive damage, and combined with Judicator attacks it can either clear enemy screens to make room for a charge or pick off key buff heroes/wizards.
If you get a double turn the Primes shooting is insane burst damage!

Azyros is there so I can deep strike directly into melee and shooting range. Quicksilver Potion because nothing else is really useful on him.

Lord Celestant is there because of his hammer cloak shooting attack, and the command ability if he survives to get to a hero phase. Quicksilver Potion there too because nothing else is really that valuable. Maybe Talisman of Blinding Light?
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>>50974559
Maybe that's it. Seeing them all together like that kind of makes them look dull because their is so much on their design that it's hard to appreciate them. Like how rank and file space marines all look the same and are simple design helmets so there is no issue, but Sigmarines all look like some ultra god priest warrior individually.
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>>50974595
tell us how your first game went.
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>>50974595
>Celestant Prime
Yes, I know. But his gun affects your units as well, so it's a huge danger to your dudes, considering they drop damn close to the enemy. I mean, if you are fareful, I guess it's all right, but the fact remains that it's easy to get overzealous and bomb your own army. I know I did.

The Lord-Celestant is aces, no doubt, but his melee output does not warrant a Quicksilver Potion in my opinion. I am the biggest slut for the Relic Blade, but the Phoenix Stone or the Talisman of Blinding Light is probably better to ensure he might be left standing turn after turn to pop his lovely Command Ability. He should be nestled deep within a pile of Liberators, anyway.
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>>50974729
So don't pick a point that contains your own units? Unless they are turtling in a corner somewhere this won't be a problem, and if they ARE doing that then you can just snap up objectives and win the game.
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>>50974595
i dont understand why half your list is shooting and you still want to teleport right in front of other armies.

if you teleport close to a death or destruction force you are done.
if you know that and stay in the back you only have 12"range with Xbow

most of the list just doesnt do enough damage. put some close combat extremis in there.
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>>50974163
this are the 3 staple list youll encounter at 2k :

Chaos :
Guo
Guo
Herald of Nurgle

Tallyband of nurgle
10 bearers
10 bearers
20 bearers
6 drones
6 drones

destruction :
Frostlord on Stonehorne
Frostlord on Stonehorne
Forstlord on Stonehorne
Thundertusk beastrider

3x10 savage orcs (or 3x20 gnoblars)

Order :
Kurnoth x9
Celestial hurricanum x3
gryph hound x3
glade guard x30


thise are all tournament winning list that people field regularly with some variation.
Amd we didnt even eenter the unregulated casual games with mourngul, kroakmeme etc.

Just see how those army all dosh a lot more damage and a lot more consistently.

its not a bad list but we can feel that you limit yourself because its the model you have and you dont understand that half your list hit like wet noodle compared to what you'll find out there.

its just friendly criticism
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>>50974946
>i dont understand why half your list is shooting and you still want to teleport right in front of other armies.
Because Prosecutors and Judicators are a requirement to use this battalion?

Also having an entire melee army doesn't work well because you don't have enough surface area to get all your units involved in combat. Mixing in some ranged units to clear away the enemy screen and then charging in with your melee units is always a better tactic than having half your army waiting to get into melee.

>if you teleport close to a death or destruction force you are done.
Except you get to shoot and then charge with a bunch of Retributors, which are one of the best melee units in the game.
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>>50974946
Nah, the basic idea is reasonable. Drop down, box the opponent in with Liberators, fill them full of bolts by the Judicators and have the Retributors murder anything worthwhile.
Trouble is, at 2k he has neither enough guys to really hold the line or pour out enough damage right from the start to cripple most opposing forces enough to blunt their counterattack enough.
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>>50975070
>>50975153

You don't have to deep strike on turn 1. You can just sit off the board for as many turns as you want and strike when the time is right. The threat of such a huge attack forces the enemy to keep his army in one place because anything that splits up

Liberators can also be held in reserve and dropped directly onto objectives - they don't do that much damage anyway, not a huge loss if 5 liberators aren't in melee.

If I took this list to a tournament I would use 10 Decimators as my sideboard, but this is a general Take All kind of list. Prime is great here because a guaranteed Arcane Bolt against every enemy in a 12" diameter circle is incredible against any army that relies on buffing heroes (which is most armies) and the bravery debuff makes even Death and Daemons units start fleeing.

>Chaos
Swap Prime and 5 Judicators for 10 Decimators. Put the decimators on the plaguebearers, retributors on the GUO. Drones are garbage that you can mostly ignore.

>Destruction
Thundertusk has no valid targets to shoot at until I come in play, and when I do come in play it is on my turn and the Thundertusk will be dead before it has a chance to shoot. Especially if I get a double turn.
Stonehorns without the charge are not nearly as scary. Retributors can reliably take down 1 stonehorn per turn while I keep the others busy with Liberators until I'm ready to go kill them.
If the scenario allows it, I can wait 2 or 3 rounds I can drop in with a charged up Prime then he will murder one behemoth per turn by himself.

>Order
Keep Prime against this list because he will be bunched up, but swap 5 Rets for 5 Decimators.
Need to play this match more carefully because of the Gryph Hounds. Drop in the Judicators to kill the Gryph Hounds, then next turn drop the rest of the army. If he screens gryph hounds with Guard then you can deep strike close enough to charge in.
Use his poor mobility against him, forcing him to turtle in a single position.

Good discussion so far
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>>50975435
>Retributors can reliably take down 1 stonehorn per turn
Look, I love my Retributors, but they cannot take a Stonehorn in one go, especially one with a Talisman of Protection.
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>>50975681
You don't think 10 retributors can kill 1 stonehorn? That's an easy task, especially if it was weakened by shooting first
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>>50975435
I disagree that you don't need to drop turn 1. I mean, yeah, sure, in theory that's possible, but you give your opponent all the time in the world to rearrange his formation for maximum fuck you, set up shop in choice pieces of scenery and generally be an annoying cunt.
As for the Celestant Prime, sure his gun is lovely, but if you drop him in a way to really benefit from the debuff it requires putting him close enough to be in danger of being shot at (and given his size, he *will* be), where his 8 wounds will melt away in a hurry, 3+ or not.
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>>50975774
Well, mine certainly can't. God knows I've tried.
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>>50974163
Don't waste your time with the Crossbows, they are garbage. Judicator Prime with Shockbolt Bow hits on 2s and bows have much better range. If you're going to run Prosecutors, have one of each type. Swap one Retributor for another pally class, like Decimators if you're going up against hordes or Protectors if you want to kill big guys.
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>>50975965
>recommending Decimators
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>>50975965
Crossbows will do more damage on average, that was the way they were designed. Range is not a factor when you drop into shooting range - having an extra 12" on your range doesn't matter if your target is right in front of you.

Judicator Prime hits with 2s on every weapon, that's not something unique to the Shockbolt bows.

>>50976035
It's good advice. Have you ever faced a screen of 60 grots? Retributors can't do shit to that.
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Guys, has anyone of you used Lustrian Undergrowth when basing? I want to buy one but can't find any pic of raw, dryed Lustrian Undergrowth on base
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>>50975965
Not him, but:
- Crossbows are solid in a Deeep Strike list. Though I agree that the prime should always carry a shockbow.
- The prosecutors are probably there to satisfy the batallion. Why take more of a at best mediocre unit, especially the worse variant?
- Decimators are inferior to Protectors in nearly all situations.
- Retributors kill big shit just as well as Protectors, if not even better.
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but glaives have more range anon
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>>50976201
>- Decimators are inferior to Protectors in nearly all situations.
Decimators are really good at hitting large mobs, which is a common tactic in competitive AOS because they counter mortal wounds.

>>50976256
That range is great when you're defending and you can strike from behind other models, but when you charge you still have to finish within 1/2" of an enemy so your 3" range isn't that useful here.

Protectors are good against monsters but so are Retributors.
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>>50976378
>Decimators are inferior to Protectors in nearly all situations.
>Decimators are really good at hitting large mobs
Well, that's the one situation.
More seriously, I confess that I've had real trouble getting the most out of my Decimators. I like them in theory, but I seem incapable of wedging them into enemy units in way that gets more than five swings out of them. Which is still reasonable, but not exactly the blender they're often presented as.
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>>50976593
You gotta deep strike them into play
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>>50976602
Shame you can't teleport them right INTO an enemy unit. That'd be wonderful.
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>>50976801
2x Knight Azyros lets you do exactly that
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>>50976853
Assuming the unit is spaced far enough apart to actually have room for the paladins' huge guts, I suppose?
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>>50976853
Hmm, didn't consider stacking them, I'll admit. That seems kinda bullshit, but then again, taking two heroes that are otherwise dead weight and require an unwieldy setup probably balances things out.
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>>50971895
Where is this art from?
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Plagueclaw WIP. Will finish tomorrow. How's my work? I'm new to the hobby.
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>>50977492
Another but with better lighting
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>>50977492
Payload needs to look more disgusting. The rest is fine.
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>>50977556
I've used xv88 and aloe brown. What now? Waywatcher green in bits with some screaming skull?
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>>50973182
Dryad bark, Gorthor brown and baneblade brown.

Only three browns you'll ever need if you also have earthshade.
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So am I right that moonclan grots have no limits on how many netters they can have? Netters who are directly superior to pokin' spears?
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Howdy Guys and Girls :)

Some whispers via Perturabo's Raven:

"- Cadia will fall in preperation for 8th edition
- 8th edition WILL NOT AoSify the 40k franchise, they will only gave it rule tweaks, GW isn't crazy to kill their most successful franchise
- From January till Summer, the release schedule wont be full 40k, it will have AoS and Bloodbowl here and there.
- Regarding Roboute being rumored to be released, he said that it is a possibility but no confirmation right now. Since Guilliman is the imperial poster boy so he would probably be released.
- So with Fall of Cadia, GW is optimistic that it will be a huge event across the globe, with the storyline progressing etc.

And I need to repeat that this is not the End Times, like with AoS/Fantasy-reboot."

As usual, take it with a bit of salt, but it sounds quite alright ^^

Regards,
Lady Atia
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>>50977953
Ok so why are you posting here? As long as they fix eldar, I'm cool
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>>50977939
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/AoS_Errata/warhammer_aos_destruction_en.pdf
>Q: On the Moonclan Grots warscroll, how many Netters count as a ‘few’?
>A: Up to three out of every twenty models.
You tell me.
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>>50978075
>gEEdUBS fixed shitty rules
Sorry not used to them doing that.
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>>50968786
>slaanesh isn't even addressed anymore
Slaanesh will heppen whenever they get around to doing Dark Aelves.
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Mortis Engine or Coven Throne
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>>50977520
>>50977492
Looks amazing for a newbie! Keep it up
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>>50977953
>only gave it rule tweaks

that's a shitty move. The worst part of 40K is the convoluted mess of rules on rules on rules scattered across >$1000 of books. Its a HUGE barrier to entry to the game and hanging onto that mess of a system caters to the established crowd who are NOT likely to buy a lot of new product.

Also in case you're reading responses please tell us poor souls what the hell is going on with elves and if there is anything on the wind about a release for them. I'll take anything no matter how vague at this point just to keep my hopes alive.
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>>50979004
They'll be soon.
The last Realmgate Wars book had heavy hinting towards Tzeentch and the Shadow and Light realms.
Tzeentch is already being delivered on.
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>>50971587
But Rend -2

Seriously though, swords are fine. The only real determining factor for which is better is situational. Neither option is shit.

I mean, if you want rend, tree-revenants and treelords already have you covered, although the consistent damage values of swords are also useful.

Tl;dr it doesn't matter, there is no reason to argue over it.
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>>50971587
There is plenty of argument and only dumb people use swords

Go back to jerking off over your poorly painted witch elves, faggot
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>>50973970
Are there good guides on converting the sigmarines into chaos? I have good hands but my creativity is shit.
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>>50979256
>your poorly painted witch elves


I'm not this person >>50971587 but I am painting some witch elves.

also you're the faggot.
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>>50979132
Swords have half the effective killing range and do damage comparable to the scythes no matter what.
Scythes are also better against anything with a 4+ or better.
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I bought a Darklings Coven Sorceress for my Stormcast, and holy shit she was useful. I was looking into Darklings coven and I found executioners. Would they be a good addition to my Stormcast?
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Do Decimators suck?

Debating whether or not I should pick up a box of them or if I'm better off using Protectors and Retributors.

It just seems like the "1 attack per model within 2 inches" rule can be easily negated.
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>>50981099
>Darklings Coven Sorceress... ...useful.
not sure if trolling

>executioners... ...good addition?
no. overpriced.
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>>50981214
She helped when I played a game with her
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>>50981146
i tough it was the same box ? if yes they are easy to magnetise.
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>>50981146
Paladins come with all the parts you need to make Protectors, Retributors and Decimators
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>>50981146
Decimators are very good at what they do, but what they do is very situational.

When you see a squad of 40 clan rats you'll wish your Retributors were Decimators instead.
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>>50981099
Wizards are great for Stormcast

Check out the Loremaster and Celestial Hurricanum, both are very common choices for Stormcast armies
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>>50981611
Holy moly. I like the look of that Loremaster. It looks to be that he can actually survive hits!!
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>>50981611
Compared to my sorceress, that is
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>>50981966
>>50981984
okay the real deal is that alarielle (the compendium version for 200 points is the best wizard to buff any single monster leader character defensively and the loremaster can turn that some character into a true nightmare. They are best used on things like the high elf dragon lord or dark elf dragon lord or a stardrake because that's how you get the most bang for your buck out of them.
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>Spent over 500 quid over the last week purely on hobbying
A-At least i'm having fun right?
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How to finish this off guys?

It's a standard Skybourne Slayers list together with the Vexillor/Retributors combo but I'm stuck as to what the last 200 points should go to.

I could just up the Protectors to 10 but I feel I need another character so I don't get fucked in 3 Places of Power.
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Forge world preview of the death roller. Have to say, seeing this, i don't think it looks like that "duardin steamsuit" rumour picture.
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>>50965256
Find a local place that offers discount with membership and buy two Start Collecting! Seraphon/Sylvaneth boxes.

I've lived in two different cities and both have had discount with membership stores, here I have one that offers 35% off anything GW if you pay cash with membership.

I effectively started a seraphon army of 1 Carnosaur, 1 Troglodon, 1 Old blood, 24 Saurus Warriors and 16 Saurus Knights for a little over 100 dollars. Absolute steal.

My roommate got Sylvaneth the same way.
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>>50984378
Here, have a better picture.
How would you guys stat this bastard in AoS?
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>>50984622
It's beautiful.
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>>50984622
>madmaxfuryroad.png
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>>50984378
Its not, steamhead duardin in february.
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>>50971982
Aelf Battletome when?
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>>50984690
No, we will never see steamhead duardin.
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does mr.xiao sell wyldwoods?
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>>50977632
Green stuff some dicks or cow placenta in that bitch anon. Right now it's just not gross enough.
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>>50985149
Yessss weee wiiiill ;)
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>>50977953
Bitch get out. GW cut off your little rumor source and is doing it themselves now. Go find another way to attention whore.
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>>50985149
>Lame cogfop dwarves

On one hand, i hope it's delayed forever, and on the other i want it just come out and be forgotten just like the fyreshitters
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If a Command trait enhances a Battle trait is it a straight buff, or is it only affecting things in the General's range
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>>50985580
General's range.
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>>50985738
Thought so, thanks for confirming
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>>50985550
Why in the hell did GW make them their own faction, and more importantly why was shooting their shitty focus.
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>>50986327
>Why in the hell did GW make them their own faction

Slayers are iconic and popular.
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>>50986379
So they shit them up?
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>>50986327
One of my biggest gripes with Age of Sigmar is how pointlessly broken up they've made a lot of the factions, particularly the Empire and Dwarfs.

I would have simply slapped 'Duardin' and 'Freeguild' on the on ranges and called it a day, but instead we now have them spread across half a dozen redundant sub-factions - and the 'Ironweld Arsenal' seems to have killed the Empire Great Cannon kit in the process, so if you want a non-Dwarf cannon in a Freeguild army it's going to be a pain.
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>>50986461
They didn't shit them up though.
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>>50986327
Dwarves still have classic style Slayers. They just don't come in units anymore.
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>>50986461
Man, Fyreslayer are very strong.
the only problem is that its a first draft for the faction.

I can garentee than it there second iteration they will recieve some kind of artillery.
If GHB 2 give then a MINIMAL point adjustment, they will be in the top, easily.
The whole faction as shooting, give them any kind of long range shooting and vulkite berzerker with shield become as good as mathammer say they are.
Give them more means to dig holes in the ground and they will dominate.
look at the difference between the first ogre book and the second.
From "literraly who" to tournament stomp for years.

lots of people arent Waacfag, and if you ally some gyrocopter you can do good against most of lists
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>>50985495
Its just someone reposting faggot, like the threads before.

You also think everytime an art is posted its the artist himself ?
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>>50985149
t. elf player faggot that got raped by a dwarf in midschool.
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>>50986535
because in 5 years each of them will be fully fledge indepedant take on their old factions
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>>50986535
I actually like the concept of "Ally factions", factions that you can't use alone and that if you want to add to your force you have to reounce to your allegiance bonus. Ironweld Arsenal and Collegiate Arcane for example.

Now there are still too few factions with allegiance bonuses to actually make this relevant, but try to think about a stormcast player having to think about keeping his allegiance or adding artillery or wizards to his forces.

Also StD are a faction with a incredibly good concept. Generic chaos troops that can be taken alone or instead thanks to the mark system can be used as a support in a full marked army. It is something I'd like to see repeated.
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>>50965322
>>50965322
>>50965322
>>50965322

Literral BTFO

>>50984378
>>50984622
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I found a store near me that offers 20% off GW shit. Whats a good 1000pt nurgle list? I know everyone recommends 2 SC nurgle boxes, but I was wondering if theres a better list for a similar price.
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the dwarf butt hurt tears in this thread right now are delicious.
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>>50984378
Because GW rumor engine only shows GW plastic models.
This being FW mean that the other pic is Steamhead.
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>>50987326
look up in the thread.
this question comes at least 3 times per thread so buy looking at old thread you'll also find lots of diferent amswer and critics.

but yes 2SC nurgle is mandatory
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>>50987326
Pure Nurgle? Yeah 2SC
Nurgle and Mortals? SC and a box of Chaos Knights to start with
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New player looking to start list building - where do I find points please? Thanks
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>>50987510
in the OP
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>>50987510
General's Handbook
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>>50987510
Now you just need to find slaanesh
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>>50987377
That's better than going after a certain battalion?
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>>50987685
look at the tournament winning list above or in past threads.
you only need tallyband of nurgle to win
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>>50987947
Isnt that a 2k list? I just want 1k
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>>50987510
>>50987592

Here have a primer for your new life in service of the dark prince
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>>50988114

See

>>50975070


Flavor to 1k.
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How do I fuck up my friends ranged kurnoth hunters as chaos? harpies? eshin? liberal application of assholery?

Beware relatively new player.
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40k and 30k player here, but getting silver tower soon for my b day and thinking of getting into age of sigmar. Is pic related a good way to get started? I don't really like the scaven tho, and can't see elves any where else on the web store? It's only £50 tho so may just get it for the elf models.
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>>50989914
if you want help, we need lists

>>50989951
If you dont want skaven or elf, dont bother.
Its only a good deal if you use the models.
Its like a dark eldar player buying $600 of orks for $250, its stupid even if theres a "discount"
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>>50989951
its only 35 pound online.
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>>50989998
The issue is that I am debating what to get to fuck them up, as right now I have footsloggers in blood reavers and chaos warriors, who the kurnoth will probably laugh their asses at.
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>>50990102
if he uses Bow Kurnouth to shoot at cheap shit like blood reaver and chaos warrior, you already won
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>>50990130
and if he guns down all their supporting heros?
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>>50990280
that why we need the list... we dont know if there is 18 kurnoth or 3.
If you field a Chaos knight horde or manticores something fast like a Bloodthirster/Skaarac etc.

There is just 1 Billion variables without a list
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>>50990350
>>50990102
>what to get
I am looking for what chaos units are good against kurnoth hunters in general. Not a specific tactic that will probably work once and then be countered. I told you I have only chaos warriors and bloodreavers, neither of which are good at eliminating them. He has six.
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>>50990421
A squad of chaos knight with glaive.
A bloodthirster
Deathshriekers
a Nurgle list that heals more wounds than he can make
Plague drones
The new flying squad of Tzeentch out next week

Or even skullreapers or shit like that once they are in melee.
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>>50990483
Well fuck it does look like I am waiting for the tzeentch shit, if only to make sure it doesn't fit the bill perfectly while being awesome. That or suck it up and get a hellcannon.
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>>50989998
I like the elves a lot I'm just wondering why there are no they elves available. Have the been 'squatted'?
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>>50990760
GW will unlist armies when they are revving up a relaunch
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>>50990760
??
A quick look at the official store is proof that 11/21 Order factions are elf, how are they squatted ? its more than half of the "good guys"
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>>50990812
>>50990760

Forgot pic. They are all over the store.
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>>50990033
What site?
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>>50990812
Sorry I wasn't up to scratch in the various factions, I just searched 'aelf' on the store as that's what it's called on the spire description and there wasn't anything. I also couldn't find the models that are in the spire anywhere
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>>50990993
Wayland, darksphere and countless other website you normally buy your 40k or 30k models in.

Even any real FLGS that isn't games workshop have constant 20 to 35% discounts

>>50991060
No problem, its a clusterfuck right now.
Those models will be given separate boxes soon, or use ebay to have more, but generally speaking you wont use too much the Aelves in the box beyond what you have here.
After Spire of dawn you'll probably buy a lord on dragon, some wizards and phoenix guards
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>>50991095
Cheers for the help mate I'll do some investigating
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>>50990826
>A full 50% of Order's armies are various flavours of elf.
Christ on a stick, GW. Consolidate some of that shit.
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>>50991255
actually its 55%
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>>50990573
>hellcannon
bingo
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>get Sylvaneth big box for xmas
>havent assembled anything because I only have spray primer and nowhere to prime
>outside is wet and 5 floors down
>inside is a small efficiency
>tfw
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>>50988542
So like

1x GUO
1x Herald of Nurgle
10x Plaguebearers
10x Plaguebearers
10x Plaguebearers
3x Nurglings
3x Beast of Nurgle
Tallyband of Nurgle

Comes to exactly 1000. Plague drones were too expensive to fit in for under 1000 and still fulfill the tallyband requirements.
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>>50991879
try that then expand your army slowly
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How is a DoT army with mostly Horrors when the rule of 1 nerfs their magic?
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>>50991692
get gesso
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>>50992131

I'm not hand priming a ton of trees. I hand primed once and hated every second of it.
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>>50991984
I would come back until they've released the battletome, they might get something nice in there
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>>50992590
>please be good
>please be more than a gimmick army
>please have decent traits and relics
>please have better Tzaangors
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>>50992190
then you're probably a shitty painter anyway.
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>>50993107
How can mortals of tzeentch + demons of tzeentch + beastmen of tzeentch + new things from silver tower compiled in a single, self buffing book can "not be good" ?
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>>50984622
So not much like
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>>50993127

How does not wanting to hand paint an army twice make me a shitty painter? I have more models that need to be primed than just my Sylvaneth box.
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>>50993206
Because literally HATING every-second of such a simple thing, just doesn't look good.
Also you just compared a 1 layer thin primer to painting your army....

your comment just confirms that you are indeed, a shitty painter.

Its not like you MUST hand primer 400 models before starting to paint your sylvaneth anyway.
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>>50993333
The only people who hand undercoat are the shitty painters / new kids to the hobby so thanks for outing yourself.
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>>50993333

Primer plus base is hand painting the entire army twice before even going into any sort of detail. It's another layer of redundancy. In the amount of time it takes to hand prime a model, I could have sprayed 20.
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>>50993154
Dunno, garbage spells/relics/traits would be a start.
Shit pts costs or weird keyword restrictions would be another way.
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>>50993429
Still waiting for nicely painted miniatures.
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>>50993429
>>50993452

Ticktock
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>>50993452
Except "you cannot spray because of the weather"
Or was that a lie too ?

Why do you need to handprimer more than 10 models before being able to do it outside ? unless you just paint as fast as you primer, in which case you are just a shitpainter.
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>>50993107
>>50993154
>>50993454
Do tzaangors have pts yet? what if they are cheap as balls and thus amazing?

Not saying their statline isn't underwhelming, but there are ways to fix it.
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>>50993518

I can't spray because of the weather and where I live. I live 5 stories up and would have to carry everything down, set them up in a dank alley, try not to get shot, and then carry them back up.

Also, I have no AoS models painted yet.
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>>50993454
they said in the 2 hours live stream that they created this so you can field a tzeentch army where all models are under the same keywords and the buffs affect basically everyone.

we will see soon enough, but it looks better on paper (more like on what they promised) than the other gods or the half assed khorne bloodbound
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>>50993569
Why do you answers the bait man ? Just dont and they will go away

>>50993534
>>50993534
They can certainly be priced accordingly.
and even then, you cannot judge them without seeing the formations and spells that could make them stronger (Looking at you Magmadroth Steelburner pack)
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>>50964545
Those are Blood Bowl Dorfs my man
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>>50993616

Because I'm bored and feel like I'm going crazy. It's part of the depression, man.
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>>50993629
you are 310 post to the party and we just reached post limit ;)

someone make a new thread pls
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>>50993640
Go to a HEMA club, depression will be over.
Nothing better than stroking big swords with 20 other men
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>>50993665

I have no idea what that is, but I bet I wouldn't be able to do it at the very least because of work hours.
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>>50993569
>living in Detroit

Why?
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>>50993727

Not quite, but some dude was shot down the hall a few years back and someone was hiding crack in the wall blight outside my apartment earlier this year.
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a little more headway today
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>>50993840
i think it lacks a complementary, non-hot color in some hair/thong or something. There is no focus point for the eye
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>>50993840
>3 tenebrael shards
Why
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>>50993650
As you wish

>>50994077
>>50994077
>>50994077
>>50994077
New thread
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>>50994076
It's an avant-guarde meta-ception to kill artillery and archers
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>>50988279
>slaaneshifest

I had no idea militant feminism was slaaneshi
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>>50993840
Are you trying to make your army look like WoW Blood Elves? Because all I can see is Blood Elves.
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