Warhammer 40,000 general

1st for Dark Angels being loyal

Second for 1st post being a cunning ruse.

>>50991903
>Give more dark eldars! Give me VECT BACK! Edition.
More than half of the current Dark Eldar range have atrocious rules and do not function at all.
Rather then more of that, I take workin rules

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>>50991963
DE Player here. I'd take working rules first. Even if it's just formations, something that makes us better/workable. Vect, Sliscus, etc. would be nice, but I want to be able to play first.

Updated chapter upgrade sprue for Templars when

The torsos it comes with don't even fit the new torso backs.

1st for tricky armies.

1St for tsons are shit and gw still can't write rules properly

>>50991993
>>50991990
dumbassess

>>50991963
>>50991982

I just want playable wych cults. They'll never be as good as GSC, but I want them to at least not be utter shit at everything while also being more expensive than the better troop choice.

>>50992016
I want to use Wyches and Hellions. Reading the books makes them feel SOOO awesome.

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What has thread been up to lately?
Also game and army pics anons. If anyone wants to batrep some of their games that would be great too.

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>>50991903
>Give me VECT BACK

Give me: Kheradruakh, Lady Malys, Baron Sathonyx and Duke Sliscus back

>>50992042
doing a horrible job of highlighting my drop pod while i wait for my nids to arrive

>>50992049
we need the thin white duke now more than ever.

>>50991963
>>50991982
OP and deldar player, my plead for more deldars includes new and more rules, I want all deldar vehicles to have aerial assault and veil of shadows to force enemy units to shoot snap fire against them, also chain snare and gravbikes with the upgrades should receive vector strike.

>>50991903
>>50992049
>TSons literally get their Primarch
>more Primarchs on the way
>DE's big cheese literally USED to exist and was REMOVED
>Still no return of him in sight

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>>50992105
>Duke Sliscus
>cheese
Anon please

>>50992016
honestly I don't even care, what units of a dark eldar army will work, if they work. Currently its the fastest army, but dont move more then 6 inches or you snapshot and 50%-glasscannon, very fragile but lacking in oomph

>>50992049
>Kheradruakh

be honest anon; did you really use that guy or actually model him?

>>50992042
i need to go prime my eldar, they're finally built and magnetized since last thursday

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>>50991985
Hopefully now but I dont know, it still is a great kit but could use an update.

I just hope there's a formation for the Emperor's Champion that gives it the Vows back.

>>50992149

That, too. The turbo fast army that lives on speed and cocaine shouldn't be hindered by going fast. At least they can jink and shoot.

>>50992169
poor stompy
he dindu nuffin

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>>50992042
Ill repost

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>>50992042
For the grayer good!

>>50992184
Ork Lifes mater!

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How's my list?

I came up with the idea of using a Grand Master as I was trying to fall asleep. Inquisitor sits in the bunker with comms relay and everything but the NDKs and Interceptors deep strike on turn 1. If I manage to fail a re-rolled 3+, I'll consider suicide at the table right then and there.

Am I missing something, or are rules for chaos icons and instruments included in the book, but not any rules dictating what models can take them?

>>50992254
Chaos daemons? I believe those are mentioned in the unit profile for some units, I don't remember if those are still a thing in 40k

>>50992217
>1/9 chance to fail
>8 units
it's more likely than you think
besides , your command bunker might get annihilated before you can even deep strike them in

>>50992213
We Wuz Nobs.

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I want GW to hire Amano Yoshitaka to design DE special characters

especially Vect and Sliscus

>>50992169
Honestly, all I want is a formation that only requires Templars (no Cadians required), a plastic Emperor's Champion and an updated upgrade kit.

Vows would be really cool.

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>>50992254

What?

>>50992314
Only deep striking GM with Pallies, Lib with 1 term squad, and then the 3rd squad. Unless I've been doing my deep strike completely wrong and have to roll deep strike for each unit even if they're attached. As for the bunker, everyone always aims at the NDKs first. ALWAYS.

>>50992299
They're in the new codex, but I can't find a single unit list in that codex that mentions them.

>>50992342

It's like you haven't even read the book at all or something.
>>50992339

>>50992317
>Dark Eldar designed by famous Final Fantasy artist, Tau operators will still be more weeb

>>50992339
Huh. Okay, I'm just blind then.

Never played any 40k before, can you guys tell me how Skitarii play? Specifically the Sydonian Dragoons.

>>50992254
page 64 or the fold out page in the back of the book. the units that can take them have the option listed in their entry.

>>50992342
new codex? do you mean the daemon incursion edition codex or the rules in the curse of the wulfen supplement?

>>50992370
tau are for dumb weebs
eldar and dark eldar are for trve japanophile otaku

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>>50992213
Now someone with more painting skill then me needs to buy this mini and make a Ork Lifes Matter Backbanner to model our spokesork for da movment

>>50992374
They run fast, hit hard on the charge, and are pretty damn resilient for their cost.

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Alright anons whats your favourite xeno race?
Mine is the kroot

>>50992421
see
>>50992400

>>50992374
>Scout forward 9 inchs
>move forward 9 inches
>Charge Closest Vehicle/horde with nothing to kill it
>Profit

>>50992421
Skaventarii.

>>50992421
Suffer not alien to live

>>50992421
harlequins because new romantic Bowie worship

>>50992443
no talkin, humie
back to work, humie

>>50992436
skitarii designs were inspired by skaven designs (which in turn were inspired by a RT xenos illustration and a chaos champion design).

>>50992421
Nids cause they look kinda cute

>>50992142
>Duke Sliscus
>cheese
>Anon please
Are you retarded?
>DE's big cheese
Big cheese is a common term for leader, the DE "Big Cheese" is Asrubal Vect.
He had a model. his model was discontinued and hist stat block pulled from the new DE book.
Losing fluffy characters who were introduced in 5th was harsh, but outright squating the DE equivalent of Eldrad, Yarick or Marneus Calgar was fucking barbaric.

>have 4 armies
>not including fantasy/aos/wmh
>want to pick up another

Kill me please. My back log is so huge because I can't prime anything atm.

>>50992477
>The DE "Big Cheese" is Asrubal Vect
No, it's Asdrubael Vect.

>>50992504

Lady Malys is also a big cheese, and Lileth certainly isn't small cheese.

>>50992499
If weather makes spray unuseable, use brush primer, I recommed Vallejo, no need to die

>>50992539
Who the fuck is Lileth?

>>50992374
They're great, but the models are fragile. My second one now has a bent helmet-spike and antenna, I really need to upgrade my cardboard boxes to something with carry foam.

In game, awesome, cheap and stabby, and AV11 means they are excellent for killing vehicles or tarpits, or being tarpits themselves if the enemy can't kill it with anything but Krak Grenades.

>>50992499
Have 12k of Eldar, 5k of Fantasy Empire, 3k of Daemons, 5k of Imperial Guard, 5k of Orks, 5k of Chaos Space Marines and 5k of 30k marines.

All of my Orks and most of my chaos need to be painted/put togethor.

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The Order of the Eternal Fupa

The Order of Our Martyred Muffin Top

>>50992374
How about the army in general tho?

>>50992549

Weather and location makes spray primer hard. I'm on the 5th floor in a small apartment in a shitty neighborhood. The only place I've managed to prime anything is at work while we were slow.

I'd rather kill myself than hand paint the amount of models of have to prime by hand. I helped a friend prime shit by hand once. NEVER AGAIN FUCK THAT SHIT

>>50992580
Ain't nothing wrong with a slightly thicker sister. Just more emperor for the emperor

Or they are closer to making female space marines

>>50992499

How many models you got on your backlog

>>50992589
fragile, close ranged shooty. Hits REALLY fucking hard with the right gubz, but don't expect them to stand around under fire as they're not that tough and although they have decent leadership they wont stick around forever. Cool fluff and gorgeous models, if spenny in both points and dosh. A few units can assault worth half a damn, but dont expect them to be taking out any Death Company. Onagers with neutron lasers are pretty fucking cool, and barebones rifle squad of vanguards can actually hurt pretty much anything they shoot at.

>>50992629
Disregard the bait anon. He's been at it for several threads

>>50992433
can't scout and charge

>>50992589
Unless you are running the rape train formation. Don't put many upgrades on the rangers/vanguards. They get expensive quick. If you go infantry heavy. take two of each units. and take one of each bare bones.(take the omniscope, because its fucking amazing)

>>50992646
Cheers mate, I'm gonna pick up my codex asap then, sounds like my kind of army with the whole class cannon thing, and the aesthetic is so nice.

>>50992690
What upgrades do you recommend for the infantry heavy list? That sounds like something I'd like.

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How does this look? The exalted reward on the slaanesh herald will be a doomstone. The oracular dais on the tzeentch herald is to guarantee a second turn deep strike of the second unit is seekers, which with their instrument guarantee the second turn arrival of my warp talons.

The whole thing is meant for leadership shenanigans.

>>50992668
Has the fact he is using different points of view between the models get pointed out?

>>50992643

Assembled? 30ish horrors, 3 princes, a LoC, a Deldar SC!, 15 or so sisters, an immolator, 70 Glade guard, 8 Dryads, and 6 converted treekin.

Unassembled? Another Deldar SC!, Box of Wyches, scourges, succubus, venom, Sylvaneth battalion, WMH 2-player box, both HH boxes, 2 drop pods to be converted into dread claws, a box of raptors, a box of CSM, and 2 Knights.

I'm not hand priming all that shit.

>>50992697
Np dude, i'd advise against getting rangers, as unlike what >>50992690 said I'd just go for 2-3 squads of Vanguard. Rangers don't really have a decent role to fill that isn't done by other units more effectively, which is a shame as their models are gorgeous.

>>50992753
Ah OK, I was hoping to have a squad with that huge anti-tank rifle because it looks fantastic, maybe I'll leave that one for games with friends.

>>50992718
If you play a lot of mech players, either two arch rifles and an arch pistol/ maul (One or the other because points) on the rangers, and 3 plasma calviers on the vanguard.

80th for flyrant models look terrible

CSM now have access to old shit like Volkite.

What changes?

>>50992753
Rangers are good for fighting Scions or Tau, ignoring 4+ save? plus precision shots with the whole unit

>>50992797
The arquebus is fun and pretty, but always found it just too damn expensive to justify the cost. If you want to, go for it, just know that it's not the most effective use of points in an army that you should be wary of overspending on gear.

>>50992820

Not the bitching.

>>50992580
Their hips are almost Quarian level though...

So, Are wolf scouts worth it, or should I just buy wulfen for my Great wold detachment?

>>50992736
He keeps doing it every single thread anon. If it was once then fine but he does it cause he knows it gets reactions.

>>50992421
Eldar and Harlequins

>>50992841
Alright, thanks for the help anon.

>>50992477
Isn't Eldrad dead now?

>>50992580
>THICC women are bad

Nigga you are gay

>>50992893
FIRM
SUPERIOR
QUARIAN
POSTERIOR

>>50992952
>Isn't Eldrad dead now?

Nope, just got shot and wounded. He's not dead.

now that my IG is getting squatted, what other army should i start?

>>50992977
Anon, you a stupd mofo if you think IG is getting squatted.

>>50992952

>Thicc
Less thick and more ripped.
Using jump packs probably makes thighs a mountain of muscle.

>>50992977
Astra Militarum.

>>50992952
i doubt they'll let Eldrad die again, he got 2 models last year i believe. no wait, ahriman got 2 new models while eldrad just got 1

>>50992977
>IG
>squatted
Please tell me you aren't actually this retarded, I need a piece of good news for this day.

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>>50992973
I thought he got dragged into the Warp to play Hide and Rape with Slannesh

>>50992998
Like this?

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>>50992952
>wanting fat bitches
m8, the fuck is wrong with you, i like my girls to not die a 45 from heart failure

Can't we go one thread without someone taking the fucking bait.

>>50992991
No, Creed is just getting everybody off cadia so he can unveil it was really just a big ass bomb.

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>>50992977
>guard getting squatted

>>50993023
>>50993036


This is what I get for taking bait

Sorry /40kg/

>>50993036
Anon that would be a good thing and we can't have that

>>50993074
i desire a conversation that isnt about women for once in my warhammer

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>>50993016

>>50993089
Well anon how about those boys that play warhammer. Are any cute?

>>50993089
GW shouldn't have made Bolter Bitches then

>>50993116
n-n-no
Yes :^)

Quick, chapters that aren't represented well by their "normal" chapter tactics.

>Doom Eagles: would be better as Bangles
>Storm Wardens: unknown, wolves or bangles
>Sons of Dorn: literally more ultramarines than ultramarines
>Silver Skulls: Iron Warriors

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What is the cutest race and why is it nids?

>>50993150
I don't know, but my girlfriend loves painting them

Maybe all women are insectoid broodmothers at heart

>>50993144
>Sons of Dorn
>Ultramarines

wut

>>50993150
Couldn't tell you, but my gf thinks they're adorable. She doesn't even like Warhammer, but she thinks those are cute

>>50993172
are you implying that all nids are actually part of GSCs?

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>>50993150

>>50993172
The meme is real.

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>Order 20 juan diaz daemonettes for my Psykana division summoning factory
>While waiting for them, buy 10 Sisters of silence to fight invisible deathstars
>Get an itch to play some more AoS, buy 20 skeletons for a battalion
>Get Canoness Veridyan because lol only model my army got since 2002
>Celestine is nearing release

>>50993202
all girls*

>>50993186
Sorry, meant Hammers of Dorn.

>>50993202
>>50993220

Yes.

>>50993217
At least you can use the sisters of silence in your sisters of battle army anon

>>50993242
purge the xenos

>>50993217
>Psykana summoning daemons
>Sisters player

Stop fag, you're giving other sisters a bad name.

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Well i don't know if this is the place to do it, but i'm gonna ask and hope you all can be helpful.

So at my local gw store they are having an event. There is a league starting up soon, and if you kitbash something special for your army by the deadline and pass it off with the manager then you can play it legally in the league.

I got really exited by this opportunity to do some my guys, and i got in on it. Did a kitbash of a Skitarii Tribune that i wan't to use as an HQ for my Skitarii army in the league. Thing is now i need to come up with rules for it, and i'm kinda stumped. I don't really know how to go about doing that. I'd like it to be viable, but i don't want to make anything overpowered because the manager has a strict "no-powergaming" stance for this league. It's just for fun and to enjoy the hobby.

Here is the picture of what i've got so far, could you all help me figure out some rules for it? Something reasonable for say a 90 point HQ? I'd like it to have an effect that improves other Skitarii's FNP roll by 1 based off of Iron Hands chapter tactics if possible, but i don't know if that would be ridiculous or not. Many thanks in advance for any anon who helps.

>>50993144

>Silver Skulls: Iron Warriors
Only because of their chapter icon.
In battle, they go full Predator and decapitate their foes and collect their skulls.

>>50992315

He wud a good ork he wun't not muckin' about

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Tau stealth suit are my favorite unit out of their army. I love the way ghostkeels look too, even if it's a bit silly to have a giant stealth monstrous creature.
Nobody would forgive me if I took two, would they?

>>50993274
why do you paint it from the bottom and not paint all parts of the same colour at the same time?

>>50993258

>Psykana
Sorry I meant IG Psykana division as opposed to IA Psykana division.
I joked about it with friends because the formation rules make the commissar blam a psyker anytime they perils, where it's very easy to perils on Daemonology.
It would seem right that the commissar would blam one of them anytime they summoned daemons.

>>50993342
I haven't heard anyone have same hatred for them as the riptide but I haven't played a match yet so I dunno

>>50992813
I think they look great actually, which is a shame because I still refuse to use them because it's so fucking old in this Codex.

Fuck monolists.

Currently working may way through stripping a bucket full of minis and it fucking sucks

Secondhand painted figures - not even once

>>50993342
Ghostkeels aren't that OP compared to Riptides if you don't take them in the OSC formation.

>>50993392
Still terrible.

>>50993342
Anyone got the full picture of the diorama?

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>>50993482

>have a unit of metal models
>try using pinesol to stripe them
>soak them for 2 days
>go at one model with a toothbrush
>30 minutes later and the paint is barely off
>models now stink

oh lordy help me

>>50993359

Honestly i started by doing all the orange for the cloak, and then i started in on all the metal bits, but halfway i ended up just painting the bronze bits on the legs. I don't know man it just kinda happened.

>>50993482
>not buying cheap shitty second hand tanks to strip and turn into destroyed tanks for terrian
Smh

>>50993515
get power cleaner or simple green instead

>>50993482
Oh god i hope that doesn't happen to me as i just bought 26 termagaunts and 14 of them i believe are already painted and based.

>>50993515
Metal models are a dream to strip anon, the paint just comes right off of them compared to plastic motherfuckers. What did you do wrong?

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Hey guys, I've been out of the game for a while and I'm trying to get back into it. I play CSM and I really like Death Guard and would like to build a small force.

But there's so many supplements that it's kinda overwhelming. I was thinking of grabbing a Lord and some Plague Marines, but after that, not sure where else to go.

I will appreciate any help. Cheers.

>>50993144

Based on 30k representation, I'd argue that NL are better represented as a 30k Legion

>>50993620
Get the latest traitor legions rules anon death guard are also doing the best for chaos

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>>50993502

>>50993620
Get Traitor Legion and the CSM codex.

That's it.

Avoid Plague Marines, regular CSM with the Death Guard rules are pretty much cut price Plague Marines, and unless you want a poison melee weapon and blight grenades, the points difference isn't worth it.

>>50993643

Why can't all the legions be as powerful as DG? Who the fuck thought that armywide relentless, T5, FnP, and fearless was on the same page as Stealth and Fear?

>>50993682
I dunno anon. Was looking forward to the thousand sons rules as well but guess they don't like tzeentch marines as much.

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bringin this list gonna be a fun game

>>50993682
The same rules writers that honestly thought you could charge out of a rhino until corrected.

>>50993680
hmm alright then. I guess the bonus the get from the Nurgle formation isn't worth it then?
I might just grab one kit, just for modeling purposes.

>>50993643
thanks dude. once i get that, is there a general direction i should follow in terms of army building?

>>50993682
Is it better to bring regular CSM with mark of nurgle in a vectorium than death guard?

>>50993392
I have 20 of those metal semen demons. For reason I do not remember.

Play SoB too.

Is this a thing or what?

>>50993670
Is it just me or is this an obviously 1 sided fight? That's a fucking Ordinatus Engine right there.

>>50993739
Enervating Pestilential Aura: Enemy models within 7" of any Plague Colony units at the start of the Fight sub-phase must reduce their I and WS by 1 for the duration of the phase. If this Formation includes the maximum number of units at the start of the battle, then enemy models within 7" of any Plague Colony unit at the start of the Fight sub-phase must also reduce their T by 1 for the duration of the phase.

That's what you get with the Plague Marines formation. It's alright but eh, they're too expensive when you basically have the same unit for cheaper.

If you want more of a fluffy army, go for it, but otherwise go for a Chaos Warband.

>>50993739
Which nurgle formation?
The death guard has something where if you take a warband, aka chaos demi-company, and some spawn all your guys get objective secured and rerolling FnP rolls of 1.

>>50993742
but don't you already need 3 squads minimum of Plague Marines for the Vectorium?

>>50993742

Death guard are more expensive and only offer grenades and poison in melee. Really not worth taking. Like, ever. Take auto canon Havoks and walk down the field with your T5 FnP and relentlessness.

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How would this fare against non wraightknight, but d-scythe wraithguard and psychic heavy eldar?

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>>50993780
the Vectorium thingy. I think you need between 3 and 7 squads of Plague Marines for it.

>>50993779
what would you see for a fluffy army? odds are i won't play much and im not trying to be competitive (plus meta always changes) so im going more for the modeling aspect, and i'd like to have fluffy models. What would you recommend?

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>>50993775
Yeah that's a whole lot worse than the warlord titan

>>50993719
That looks awful to fight against. My all rounder 1850 list would be decimated.

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Today I was going to assemble shit.
Ate a Johnny Rockets burger because fuck it.
I'm puking and with a headache now. How do fuck do amerifags eat this shit?


Food poisoning aside any motivation to paint and assemble?

>>50993780
>>50993787

>Vectorium has stealth, fnp, T5, relentless, and rerolls fnp of 1
>Murder talon gets stealth, fear, reroll charges, and a single turn of NF

Someone thought this was perfectly fine.

>>50993855
You're thinking of a Plague Colony, which actually grants fear to the Plague Marines and an aura that fucks with stats in combat. The Vectorium is their Decurion that gives stealth and rerolling fnp of 1, which can include a Plague Colony.

>>50993940

What should NL have got that would be equal to those DG rules in your opinion?

>>50993936
Do it you fucking mook

>>50993896
That's a cool display table right there

>>50993719

>skyhammer assaults at full initiative T1
>devs don't have to snap shoot
>raptor talon has to assault a disordered charge

>>50993940
>Grand company gets Stubborn, fearless in buildings, FNP6+, tank hunters for Havocs and Obliterators, and twin linked on barrage and ordnance weapons

>>50993896
Dunno if you're being sarcastic but it could be, these things are pretty much one use rapecannons the admech generally abandon after building. A warlord and ordinatus together is fucking horrifying but if that engine fired it's weapon at a warlord it could easily damage it, might not be as big or scary looking but it's what happens when admech get their shit together and innovate instead of relying on stc designs.
Warlord titan is still bad tho, but you might be underestimating the engine.

>>50993896
Is that ship an actual model in game?

>>50993855
Well get a Plague Colony for a start, you get army wide Relentless, so don't take vehicles and just have massed footsloggers. Don't take Bikes or Raptors, Death Guard didn't use them much.

>>50994030
Yea, and is FUCKING expensive. But it will literally carry an entire fucking 5000 point army onto the table

>>50994030
It's called a Manta.

>>50993936
Americans don't eat Johnny rockets. They exist poorly because of dumb European tourists.

Americans eat 5guys, inandout or a local burger joint that you just have to try.

>>50993964

Give them their rule from 30k that gives them +1 to hit/wound when they outnumber in melee.

I'd be ok with infiltrating Terror Squads, I mean Chosen.

As much as I love jump infantry, and I do love jump infantry, NL have more than Raptors.

>>50994030
The big one? Yeah.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Tau-Manta

>>50993993
the Fearles + Stubborn bonus only comes when they're in fortifications

>>50994054
>>50994047
>>50994045
Anyone got rules for it?

>>50994035

What's funny is that DG raptors and Bikes are better than everyone else, except for possibly EC Raptors.

>>50994049
That explain why the fuck the thing is so toxic.

>>50994049
>in'nout

I live in California and I really don't get it. The shakes are good. Animal fries are decent. But the burgers are average at best. hell, Del taco has better burgers.

>>50994054
Jesus christ who has 1000 pounds to blow on this hobby?

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>>50994030

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>>50994067
It's old, and shit.

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>>50993150
>>50993172
>>50993194

My girlfriend loves anything with the Ymgarl genestealer face. I told her it was a female 40K fan stereotype and she said, "I don't want to be a stereotype! Maybe I'll try the Gundams instead."

Yep.

>>50994035
>>50994071
yeah i feel that bikes would do super well with the added toughness, but i think that to get the Plague Colony I need bikers too no? I think you only access the PC when you have a Chaos Warband

>>50994065
No they are always stubborn, they get fearless in or on fortifications.

>>50994116
No, you can take Plague Colony or Chaos Warband as a core choice.

>>50993274
Allied dominus priest from the imperial agents book?

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>>50992042
Since I'm already using a las-carbine for a HP token in the rear turret basket I fell back on an old standby: the Jerry Can.

God I love vehicles. You can give them so much character. Sometimes more than actual characters! Though I have yet to go back and finish weathering/muddying up my tanks.

>>50994116

You're confusing things.

The Vectorium is a formation made of formations.

A plague colony is just a formation made up of plague Marines.

A Chaos Warband is a formation that's like a basic CAD, but you need at least one thing from each slot, and 2 CSM squads.

At minimum, a Vectorium needs either a Chaos Warband or a Plague Colony, plus an auxiliary formation.

It's all in the Traitor Legions book where its explained far simpler.

>>50993964
Well black legion can already take better Raptors, as their raptor talon can turn one deepstrike and can take a mark of chaos...

>>50994133

That's a possibility, but i don't really want him to fix things. Big part of the tech priest is his ability to repair other admech units, but i don't really want that for this guy.

>>50991903
>not "proper csm update when" edition

>>50994205
Oh shut up.

>>50994222
Trips of truth.

>>50994205
Waaaaaaaaaah. You're better off than a bunch of armies with your new bandage book.

>>50992436
It's funny that people compares skitarii with skaven, when skitarii units fit more with the engineers from the empire with their wacky machines, meanwhile Tau are "good" skavens creating giant monsters but they themselves being shit, the Tau crisis are rat ogres, Tau biggest suits are aberrations, drones are rat slaves, and the rank and file Tau fire warrior is punch to dust by pretty much everybody else like the rank clan warriors.

>>50994237
name 3 codexes that are worse than CSM

>>50994257
Orks, Dark Eldar, Tyranids.

>>50994257
orks
tyrinids
scions

>>50994262
i would like to say you are wrong but i can't also im not original anon who was bitching about the OP

>>50994205

I've played Chaos since 3rd.

Shut the fuck up. Traitor Legions is our proper update. It's everything we wanted in an update. It's made us competitive AND fun. This sort of never-satisfied shit is why people call CSM players whiny.

>>50994180
thanks! like i said, things changes a lot since 5e and i find it a bit overwhelming which is why i ask you bros

Are kommandos usable or viable? Anyone ever used them have experience with them?

>>50994305

>its made Death Guard even more playable and the rest less mediocre

FTFY

>>50994315
They're just Boyz that can get sneaky. So not really.

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I want to make a CSM warband whose (in short) concept is that they were a renegade SM band who got trapped inside a planet within the eye of terror and over what felt to them like millions of years lithified and became crystalline.

As such I want to represent it on the field as very few elite units that are fuckoff hard to kill. The immediate thought was a Thousand Sons army due to their invuln saves and the fact that tzeentch would turn lads into minerals for a laugh on a lazy sunday, but I really like the new Death Guard rules from traitor legions, especially considering they're tough as nails and you'd have to force a lot of saves to kill one. Nurgle doesn't really fit the theme though, rocks don't decay, they weather.

Would people be against me running them as count-as death guard? Is that too WAAC?

Also how come nobody ever posts cool models in this thread?

>>50994305
>t. Death Guard player

>>50994333

World Eaters are one of the better assault-based armies in the entire game.

Emperor's Children can pack a fucking tonne of S6 shooting.

1k Sons don't need to use that toilet paper of a supplement they got

>>50994314

I jumped from 5th to 7th, so I know how you feel. Honestly, I almost didn't come back after seeing all the shit that is in 7th. Hell, I'm still not sure it was such a good idea.

>>50994355
Too WAAC, should use TSons, turning to Crystal is a Tzeentch thing.

>>50994364
I play SoB, stopped playing around the start of 5th.

Got back just in time to live the pitty fuck SoB are getting. Wish they would squated my army instead of this shit.

>>50994355
>how come nobody posts cool models in this thread
You're looking for WIP general

>>50994364
yeah. i also play Necrons which I hear are doing well but they completely gutted the fluff, nerfed my C'tan and my Monolith. They used to be my centerpieces and they're more or less trash now.

As for my CSM, well I just like their models at this point. I want to build an army more for simply building them and having them look nice.

>>50994432
>it's that one guy who always puts two ts in pity and one in Squatted
Just fuck off, you got a new codex with your army list and the only thing you lost, Celestine, is coming back with a new model.

The ONLY thing Sistersfags have a right to bitch about is the loss of the Repressor.

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>>50994434
No I'm not.

>>50994406
I've heard that Tsons are the opposite of too WAAC though, in that they're at the bottom. I've never played against or even seen them though, anyone cash in on that

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>>50994355
>Also how come nobody ever posts cool models in this thread?

I very occasionally do.
Have one.

>>50993896
I dont even want to know how expensive this diorama was

>>50994432

I play Sisters, too. My first experience with 7th was getting demolished by podding grav cents. After that game, I never wanted to play again, and didn't for about 2 months. It's was fucking miserable.

Honestly, this update left them better than they were. Plasma command squads are really good, and actually give us a good elite choice. I've been using one with a canoness for awhile now, because of the Cents, actually.

>>50994439

I was there for the Crons update in 5th. Everything was better than before. I'd say "trash" is subjective. Monoliths are still usable.

>>50994546
holy fuck what

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>>50994546
He said cool models, not airbrushed PoS built in a retarded pose.

>>50994569
well i played them mostly in 3e. Monolith has had a steady downfall over the years.

I recall winning a game with just my Nightbringer, scarabs and my Monolith.

>>50994109
>armour: front 13 side 12 rear 11
>2000 points

lmao

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>>50993896
>those knights going around the wall

>>50994584
i wouldn't call it high quality but i still wouldn't call it low quality.

>>50994541
>New Codex
It is the same fucking thing since the bloody WD codex.

Copy Pasted over and over and over.

It got better by accident with Celestian Command Squad being elite because? Reasons. AoF lasting the turn now. Maybe because the intern that copy pasted the shit didn't understood phase.
Repressor has never been in the codex. It is a FW shit out of production.

>>50994543
Oh TSons are overcosted, I meant doing Death Guard is too WAAC. Pick a different theme if you're going to do that.

>>50994592

Sure, back then they were retarded. Now, they're just good.

I remember when my Sisters could rend and army to death with their bolters, but apparently only the eldar are allowed to do that.

>>50994546
That's fucking terrible, dude.

>>50994631
They can still do it
Twice if you bring upgrades for it.
If you are lucky.
Bring unbound Retribution squads only.

Fucking kill the army already, for mercy sake.

Also anyone notice Vyridian only has the 6++ save? Like Rosarium are a thing you know.

I understand that I cant mix and and match chaos artifacts for my specific legion and the vanilla ones, right? Or can you put one from say, the IW and another from the vanilla in other character?

>>50994592
>I recall winning a game with just the scariest melee monster in the game, cheap filler to help me minmax/Gaussglance shit to death, and the most difficult vehicle in the game to kill
Gee sure makes you wonder why the codex was changed.

>>50994315
I've actually been planning to use Snikrot's formation. Four units of 5 kommandos, each with 2 rokkit launchas, outflanking from the enemy's board edge could put on a good bit of pressure and pop some rear armour. Not bad for ~300 points.

But theoryhammer aside, kommandos are overcosted at worst and extremely niche at best. Small units of boyz get wiped out easily, both in shooting and in assault and kommandos are no different.

They get some good boosts. In the right place, Stealth, Move Through Cover and Infiltrate/Outflank is a nice mix. However, at the end of they day, they're 10-point boyz. Mine have captured objectives, only to be annihilated the following turn.

>>50994631
i mean, i'll still field my monolith and C'tan since i love them, but they can't tank armies like they used to haha

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>>50994584
I was just joking

Also, I really like the paint job on this one.

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>>50994584
Airbrushing looks so tacky, but if done well (definitely not like your picture, i'm furious) it looks solid, If I was a commission painter and I could slap out something like that in 30 minutes and sell it for $200 dollarydoos I'd do it all day.

I don't think I'll ever do it because it seems like such a crutch, I start using airbrushes I'll never take days to do a blend again

>>50994584
>That base
>That pilot

Holy shit.

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>>50994614
>It got better
>B-b-but that doesn't c-count! It w-was an accident!
>the intern buzzword
>Repressor wasn't in-codex so it doesn't count
Stay bitter m8, I'm going to continue enjoying that the army my friend plays actually got something new/nice, because my Nids sure as fuck won't.

>>50994671
i mean i had other guys, but they just didn't do much. the scarabs were to get in combat quick and tarpit. but yeah, the Nightbringer ran a train on armies

>>50994626
>death guard
>WAAC

theyre still just chaos marines dude.
Don't be stupid and disregard the faction/Models you like the style of just because theyre good on the tabletop.

Im not going to convert my Emperors Children army and my totally-Not-Alpha-legion Ultramarines into some other faction just because they finally got comparable rules now

>>50994665

They're solid mid tier, though.

As for Veridyan, she's 85pts and gives a bubble of precision shots. She's perfectly fine. Hell, she's remarkably good in the right army (using her for Exorcists is stupid). If you want a more sturdy warlord, take a canoness with EW.

>>50994685

True, but AV14 all around is still pretty durable.

>>50994765

>T5, stealth, relentless, fnp rerolling 1s
>just csm

>>50994765
He's picking Death Guard for an army that makes way more sense being Tzeentchian than Nurglite because they're better on the table.

>>50994793

Except that 1ks are actually unplayable.

>>50994602
Because if they're ignored they'll wreck shit and if faced the other Titans will wreck everybody's shit.

>>50994730
It didn't get anything new. That is the point of the bitching. Simply move things around and split squads into smaller same unit type things.
Looking at you Crusaders and Death Cult. That I now need a bloody formation to take them in the same fucking squad.

Repressor is a FW thing. Never been inside the codex. Why the fuck they didn't put it inside IA is a mystery.

>>50994820
>why didn't they put an OOP FW model in a GW codex?

>>50994770
Wonder if they are mid tier. Due to melta and flamer easy access.

are tzangors worth at all if you use them in there formation or should i just use cultitsts

>>50994770
>True, but AV14 all around is still pretty durable
One Arc Rifle Skitarii squad will kill it in one volley.

I found something incorrect on 1d4chan related to 40k rules. Should I edit out the incorrect information, ignore it, strike through it and overlay the correct information, or pretend to be a commissar?

>>50994834
Make it then

They bloody make GSC, along with Mechanicus double army, out of thin air adding a Repressor spuer to the already old Rhino kit is not hard.

>>50994812

Why not go through the wall?

>>50994863
>I found something incorrect on 1d4chan related to 40k rules
Well stop the fucking presses.

>Should I edit out the incorrect information
If it's beyond saving and you care enough.

>ignore it
This one.

>strike through it and overlay the correct information
Don't be a retard and clutter up the article. Doctor the incorrect information and correct it as best you can.

>pretend to be a commissar
This is why people hate 1d4.

>>50994845

The sheer amount of BS4 melta available plus cover ignoring outflanking melta.

>>50994879
The onlky time GW ever muscled in on FW's stomping ground is when they did BaC and BoP, both of which ultimately served FW's own ends by serving as gateways to 30k anyway. They are not going to make plastic sprues for models FW does or did make. If anything FW should just restock the kit.

>>50994863
Just REMOVE the incorrect information and REPLACE it with correct information. Striking through the incorrect information is a very fast way to get the mainline editors to just undo all of your work and insult you incessantly.

>>50994914
>They are not going to make plastic sprues for models FW does or did make.

Theres plenty of models that used to be sold by FW then got turned into plastic, the Trygon and Baneblade are just two examples. Also the Heresy box sets were made by FW, its the same team thats doing specialist games.

>>50994938
There are editors?

>>50994914
Fucking do it. Like it was their chance, but no.

IA broke, spread and move units around. Old squads are not formations because formations are cool guys!


Ok bitching done move along.

>>50994947
There's a couple people that spend an obscene amount of time on 1d4chan.. They spend all of their time arguing on the god emperor's talk page about whether or not Donald Trump is the emperor, while anyone who thinks he should gets autobanned.

>>50994882
Because
>don't let that ship escape

ADEPTUS TITANICUS HYPE

Anyone else think that 7th edition is too cluttered and bloated with rules?

I play both AoS and 40k and right now AoS is much more enjoyable. I can get in 3-4 AoS games in the time it takes to play one game of 40k.

>>50995009
Never Hype
Never Pre-Order
Never buy unfinished products

>>50995009
Did I miss something?

>>50995036
>t. No Man's Sky player
It's a model range, and we know most everything about it and its game long before release. Chill dude.

>>50995028

>no structure
>only a few armies get books
>5048333 small factions
>top tier lists are literally goodstuff armies made from 7 different factions

I am having trouble finding where it gets fun

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>want to order bitz for a conversion
>every store is sold out
>no auctions on ebay

>>50994086
people with jobs?

>>50995091
because it's 4 pages of rules, you get to make a nice fluffy your guys army, and most people who are actually playing in the store do not have waacshit

>>50995073
Still, the hype part is true.

>>50995045

Other than that we got info for it? No.

Also that moment when they're not gonna probably release smaller models to resurrect epic. Shit sucks mang.

>>50995036
go back to /v/
its perfectly reasonable to get hyped for things, and preorder, as long as you're smart. If you go out and preorder/get hyped from stupid trailers and sneak peeks, yea, you're a sucker. but I've pre-ordered and gotten hyped for things and every time I have, I've never been disappointed. this applies for anything really.

>>50995091
>40k
>Top lists are Tau Eldar and Space Marines
>Formations give you free stuff
>Literally spam your best units to win

>>50995116
>>Formations give you free stuff

at first i thought formations were really cool since i assumed they would be a +/- type of thing.

but instead they are just buffs.

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>>50995116
> MFW I play Space Marines
> MFW people refuse me games because I play SM
> MFW I run SHITLOADS of scouts with custom made camo cloaks
> MFW I have named 50% of my collection, and regularly write lists solely based around having a bunch of heroes leading their own personal kill teams
> Herohammer like a motherfucker. EVERY squad has a veteran sergeant that's fully painted and named
> "Eww space marines, I don't want to play against that because you'll just throw invisible grav cents at me"

>>50995141
>Old Apoc formations
>Huge points costs mean you must structure your army around them
>Good ones had high points costs for the privilege of even playing them
Fun was had.

New formations as a concept are salvageable because they are a breat bandaid that go a long way towards buffing shit units and supplementing fluffy armies. The problem is that formations with absolutely bullshit rules like Skyhammer and WarConvo exist, and others, such as Riptide Wing, reward players by buffing the already great units they are taking, just for the price of spamming them ou the ass.

>>50995116

AoS WAAC is worse, though. Formations cost points, and unbound isn't just acceptable, it's literally part of the rules.

Imagine if I could take Riptides, Wraith Knights and sky hammer as my army. That's AoS WAAC.

>>50995102

Except unless you have a Codex, which is hilarious because MOST DON'T, you don't have a fluffy army. You have like 2-4 units in a micro faction.

>>50995091
>>no structure
>>only a few armies get books
>>5048333 small factions
>>top tier lists are literally goodstuff armies made from 7 different factions
>I am having trouble finding where it gets fun

this is no different than how 40k is right now

>>50995177
>Imagine if I could take Riptides, Wraith Knights and sky hammer as my army
Not to back up that AoS shill, but you can. Minimum Eldar CAD with Scatbikes or just fucking bikes and a WK, sub in Riptide Wing and Skyhammer. Take an Inquisitor with 3 servo skulls and call it a fluffy Inquisition army.

>>50995177
except that formations SHOULD cost points for the bonuses they provide

and the fact that every unit in AoS can damage every other unit

I wouldn't mind a WraithKnight in 40k if my Space Marine bolters would bring it down.

Also, AoS is MUCH more about playing to the specific mission, not tabling your opponent.

>>50995106
Info for what, did they just say the Titanicus was getting an update?

anyone who thinks AoS is cancer needs to check the tourney lists http://bloodofkittens.com/7th-edition-army-list-compendium/

because there's an awful lot of "ally in 3 riptides" and then "ally inquisitors for acolyte spam"

nevermind the tyranids who take 6 flyrants and then GSC

>>50995163
Switch to Guard. Make your Scouts Veterans with Camo Cloaks and Carapace Armor. Everyone loves playing Guard for the free wins.

>>50994355
I had a similar theme for my Slaanesh army, though turning to Marble rather than crystals for the Perfection angle.

EC might be a good middle ground between 1k sons and DG

>>50995211
Just play Raptors. You don't know what the meaning of joy is until you kill a wraithknight in one round of shooting with only 160 points worth of scouts.. WITH BOLTERS.

>>50995211
>I wouldn't mind a WraithKnight in 40k if my Space Marine bolters would bring it down.
Oh, it's just you. Would you fuck off already? So what if bolters can't wound the Wraithknight? That thing should be a fucking vehicle, and as a vehicle it would be immune to bolters anyway. Or are you going to complain that your bolters should be able to crack open Knights, Land Raiders or even fucking Rhinos next?

>>50995204
I just wish to troll post to competitive forums list like that.

Add a random SoB, Ork, DE, Inquisition dude and call it that.

Since they long lost what the hell competitive meant and they are just waacfags, not even waac anymore.

My point wasn't to say AoS is great, just that 40k is fucking bloated and slow.

Feel free to hate on AoS but the point is the gameplay is much smoother than 40k right now. Also, mortal wounds is a MUCH BETTER MECHANIC than Armor Penetration. I really don't know how anyone can disagree with that.

>>50995257
>random turn order is much smoother
>AoS combat order is much smoother
Nobody could say 40k isn't bloated af with nonsensical and retarded rules but AoS is just as full of shit, it's just a different kind of shit.

>>50995296
>random turns is shit
clearly you've never played ANY GAME that isn't 40k

because random turns isn't new to AoS, there's lots of historicals

>>50995296
Random turn order keeps things interesting. It encourages taking risks.
When you know that a unit can only move X inches a turn you can begin to predict how a game will turn out.
Also, you could always just agree to not use it.

>>50995308
I do not recall infinity, malifaux or warmachine having time distortion mechanics

>>50995331
yeah those games are CLEARLY historical

>>50995331
but of those 3 only infinity is good

>>50995308
Let's not get into another argument about the pros and cons of random turns, a thread a while back was entirely shat up by some autists spouting about it. Although, just for the record, I vastly prefer simultaneous turns as opposed to you go I go. It makes the game more engaging and helps speed up gameplay, in most cases.

>>50995325
>you could always just agree to not use it
You are not wrong, but this is a fallacy nonetheless. If the game was good it would not need houserules to fix it.

I don't really see how random turn order is a bad thing.
Just like how I enjoy all the terrain pieces that provide interesting advantages/disadvantages.
Playing on a table with the arcanabulum is fucking bananas and a lot of fun.

Tournament players, in their eternal quest for "balance" tend to create some of the blandest games out there.

>>50995357
The entire purpose of Age of Sigmar is for people to be able to houserule and shit.

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>>50995356
>infinity is good

>>50994914
Almost every vehicle Forge World sold historically is now sitting on GW shelves gathering dust.

Ugh, I need more Fall of Cadia info. I need to know if my guys (Templars) get anything decent.

>>50993977
yeah its great

>>50995342
One thing is having iniative orders the other is having random turns that can basically screw you due to randomness.

>>50995325
In a roleplaying game sure ignore rules.
In a wargame where part of the thing is to bump into random people and play with them
Rules that do not need previews agreement in order to work are needed.

Don't get me wrong AoS can be fun, as fun as a toilet game. Maybe if the thing was prepainted mageknight like sure. But when there are models involve that need to be assemble and painted

I want at least functional rules that are not LOL ZO RANDUM, then again 40k is not better, but at least the core mechanics are not a running joke.

>>50995391
>One thing is having iniative orders the other is having random turns that can basically screw you due to randomness.

yeah and you've:

never failed a charge
never failed to hit
never failed to wound
never failed a 2+ save

etc etc etc

Someone tell me why random turn order is bad.

Is it because it prevents you from being an uber elite tournament pro?

I personally enjoy the random elements, but then again I'm not trying to be some tournament pro. I just like painting models and rolling dice.

>>50995380
Might be because GW is banning their own products in their own stores because? Honestly no idea. They could just let the local store owner order the things for his customers instead of imposing a ban for their own products.

GW is rather crazy. Some time it feels they go out of their way to screw their consumers

>>50995412
Part of a wargame.

I'm talking here about things like not moving your dudes for hours due to random turns.

>>50995419

>ass blasted white knight AoSer still going defending the honour of his shitty game even though everyone else has moved on

>>50995412

Random charges are stupid. You should be able to charge 6+d6 unless you shot with a non-assault weapon, which is halved to 3+d3.

>>50995432
there are lots of wargames which have random turns

>>50995364
In our play group if someone goes 2nd turn 1, and then 1st turn 2 they have as close to an auto win as you can get regardless of what army each side is playing.

>>50995422
What?

>>50995465
Please show me. I'd like to know this random turn wargames.

Sure as hell haven't seen one worth remembering.

>>50995445
Actually I play both games,I just think that AoS has better rules at the moment. 40k is too bogged down in rules and phases and only a few armies are really viable.
I play Stormcast Eternals, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, and Deathwatch so I'm much more heavily invested in 40k.

Why do you think so many players are clamoring for a 40k General's Handbook?

>>50995219

From Andy Hoare
"The book is done, the minis are done. Titanicus is going to print next week and will be out this year.
They are going to do a big release with boxed game plus extras. They pushed the schedule back a bit to flesh it out more.
They have learned from BB that people are lapping Specialist Games up, so are going to get more budget for it."

And finally from lady atias battlebunnies
"Adeptus Titanicus is delayed (it was originally planned to be released around february). Not being rushed out. Might be out before the end of the year.
There will be complete plastic buildings (which you can destroy yourself, by cutting etc).
Thanks to Blood Bowl, and the delay there is a possibility of plastic Titans which go on sale at the same time as the black book / resin ones.
The book art for ‘Titan’s Death’ is being worked on right now."

So look forward to it next year. Sadly they're not gonna probably go with the plan they had before or the one they thought of and that was actually making it into a specialist game in the vein of epic. So it's just gonna be warmachine without the faggots needed to control your stompy robots.

>>50995499
Mostly due to Kirby trying to milk 40k before it died.

Not even sure what happen, but rules for rules sake. Is bad.

Also anon, you just play marines with different colours, all that shit could be in a single book. You are part of the problem, for supporting this anti-consumer practices.

How to fix turn order:

Alternating unit activation.

Each unit gets 2 actions. it can do any combination of these:

>move (different movement stats for different units again too)
>psychic (would need to change casting mechanics)
>shooting
>assault (1 for both charge and strike)

No more Overwatch.

You pick a unit and activate it, doing your two actions.

Then your opponent picks a unit and does their two actions.

So on until all units have been used, and then "end-of-turn" things are resolved and the new turn starts.

>>50995550
What can I say? I like Space Marines. I like the heroes of the setting.

>>50995558
Sounds like each turn would take about 8 hours.

>>50995558
That works in small games like warmachine. Even then the fuckers are trying really hard to get into 40k levels of model count.

Had you seen how long warmachine game drags at bigger points due to that mechanic? And it is only one player activating one unit at the time.

>>50995582
And you reveal the bait. Thanks for playing.

Go back to your dead AoS threads.

>>50995603
How? It's the same amount of actions occurring compared to now. Actually, it's less, since you need to to pick between two.

Psychic melee armies (basically GKs and Daemons) might need special rules letting them do more than 2 actions at once.

>>50995617
the aos thread isn't dead

>>50995477

Imagine if any army in 40k got 2 turns in a row. Those Riptides get to shoot you four times before you get to take another turn.

>>50995647
>you failed your charge, now you get shot four times instead of twice

good overwatch mechanisms

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>>50995629
You already pick between two, unless you are GSC that can do all 4 turn one.

Joke aside, most armies move and shoot. move and use powers.

Move and assault because shooting against a unit unless it is a huge fearless blob you risk missing the charge.

Do you even play the game?

>>50995661

>fail charge
>get over watched
>opponent shoots in his turn
>he gets next turn because random turn
>shoots me again
>i charge on my turn
>get over watched

>>50992820
Point will be 15 points per gun and they will be inferior to grav in every way

>>50995661
I think it's dumb already that you can be hit by overwatch even if you fail the charge. Overwatch should only be a thing if the charge is a success.

>>50995809
Wait it doesn't? Damn it!

Are you going to tell me AP3 guns ignore 3+ saves instead of 4+ or worst?

>>50993964
Bikes and raptors as troops

Bike formation

Hit and run for everything

>>50994193
Just don't take khorne

>>50995874
Your response doesn't make sense to my comment.

>>50995961
I thought you only overwatch on a successful charge. Not always.

If I got that wrong maybe AP doesn't work like I think it does.

Like AP1 ignores 2+ saves, AP2 ignores 3+ saves, and so on. Please tell me I got this right. If not I got a bunch of asshole locals

So why is AI especially vulnerable to chaos?
Shouldn't they be immune since they don't have souls or feelings?

>>50996044
you know how viruses fuck up computers and 'make' them do things
imagine that, but chaos.

>>50995905

NL didn't have HnR in 30k, though, and all jump units can HnR.

Their shtick is actually deep striking termies, rending power swords, fear, and mugging people.

Their special units were basically infiltrating chosen with Volkite, and raptors with a RoW to make each troops.