Pathfinder General /pfg/

If I ask politely would you please stop?

So I know that Oradin is the go to build for healers, but are there any others? Is Chirugeon any good?

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What's the age of consent in the prominent realms of Golarion?

>>50985802
I can't fathom your mindset.

>>50985871
58.

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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Did your new year get off to a good start?

>>50985620

Age of consent in the Middle Ages was kind of like porn; I can't give you a solid definition, but you know it when you see it. Generally, a girl was considered a woman after menarche, aka her first menstrual cycle (which back then could have been as late as 17, due to poor nutrition, though a setting like Golarion it would probably be 12-13.)

This is of course ignoring the most important event of a child's life, and something that was unfortunately destroyed with the Industrial Age and the gradual breakup of age groups; the Rite of Passage. Back in the day, you were a child until you had your Rite of Passage, which in those days and even now was an "easy" way to say "this person is an adult, this person is a child." Rites of Passage could be something as simple as reading out of your holy book while the priests and your family watches (like a Bar Mitzvah) or something as complicated as hunting down and killing a lion.

When you complete your Rite of Passage, you are no longer a child, but a man, and you are given all the rights afforded a man up to and including a wife.

Golarion is complicated in that gender roles vary from place to place, which means a girl might be considered a woman as soon as she bleeds, while in other places she's a woman only after completing a Rite of Passage.

remove weebs

>>50985871
>>50986029

It varies in Varisia, but I'd pin it as early as 12 for barbaric lands like Realm of the Mammoth Lords or Belkzen while the more orderly realms would have clearly defined ages, namely 15-18 in Brevoy, Taldor or Cheliax.

Sandpoint is under the jurisdiction of Magnimar, which is by all accounts an Italian city-state. The rules would say 16, but I've got a feeling the rustic attitudes of Sandpoint might make it lower.

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>>50986029
Have any rites of passage been written up by Paizo? I'm inclined to start filling in the gaps. Would do wonders for backstories.

>>50986136
The Shoanti have the ritual where they get their first tattoo, though it's never said when that takes place.

>>50986155
Oh, and they're way cool. Easily a top three human ethnicity.

The last thing I want from life is hearing /pfg/ discuss the age of consent. This general is depraved.

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Dragon Game DM here.

Its fucking hard to get to an Alternator on a Chevy Aveo. its not hard work, just hard to get to. Had to take off the wheel well and everything.

But yeah, anchor any questions about the game to this post, or feel free to ask them in the LFG here.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons

>>50986136

I could've sworn the Ulfen have a Rite of Passage, probably something to do with going on your first sailing.

>>50985927
Well yes and no since I am the guy who is good friends with lots of people, but rarely hang out with them outside since they have their own circles of friends they hang out with and as such have no new year's parties to attend to. On a more positive note my group decide to do a what-if scenario where we spontaneously fight Krune from the PFS scenario fully awake from the get go, which is nice since the encounter leading up to the lazy bastard was having a cat vs. mouse with a herald of a dead goddess as she flies away with my fighter tailing her and her getting cut off by a teleporting cleric as the other casters slowly move along our direction. Fun times yay.

>>50986186

Look at it this way; we're discussing actual anthropology and sociological practices and how they might work in the context of Golarion.

Believe it or not, but we're actually thinking about the setting!

>>50986222
It's all about masturbating to idea of children, don't try to dress it up.

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>>50985884
Maybe in Kyonin

>>50986172
What would you say are the other two?

>>50986186
I need to know in case I ever play any bright-eyed young people. Otherwise, how will I know what thick, throbbing content to put in their tight, barely legal backstories?

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What's the age of consent for youkai kitsune?

>>50986269
Chelaxians for diverse, interesting realms and Lawfulness, and Keleshites, for Arabian Nights shit, beheading those who insult Sarenrae, and sexy brown women.

>>50986276
They're foxes. Like, sentient immortal foxes, but foxes. So, like, probably about one year old. 49 years before they learn to shapeshift.

BREAKING NEWS! WE HAVE THE FIRST MALE KAIJISTSU SIBLING IN ROTJR!

>>50986435
Nobody cares.

>>50986435
12 hours ago, and it's still shit.

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>>50986276
That's actually a pretty good question. That probably depends on how you fluff them. If they are simple but long-lived foxes for the first 50 years of their life then that's probably consistent with other animals. If not then ig gets stranger.

Also, how would half-youkai kitsune work, for that matter? I made the foxwife for Molthune Knights game but I have no idea! Also, maybe I will try to adapt her to that fluffy First World game.

Why is /pfg/ obsessed with furries?

>>50986644
I'll take furries over pedophilia any day.

>>50986651
I prefer neither, why isn't that an option?

>>50986644

Probably because there are quite a few furry character options, some of which are mechanically viable.

>>50986644
We aren't?

>>50986525
reflffed skinwalker with a unique heritage

>>50986672
Because apparently there are enough people that want either to continuously talk about their fetishes.

>>50986240
Children aren't hot, even if science is, anon.

What's considered an adult or not is a huge factor in numerous social dynamics; it determines when someone is able to properly inherit (so it can literally be your timer window for all sorts of regency-type coups), how education's done, and even the ratio of people who leave town...

>>50986726
If you want to be a creepy fuck and talk about fucking children don't do it here.

>>50986196
How high of an optimization standard are the encounters going to be built around?

Does anyone have any tips for making and playing as a prepared caster?

I am a bit worried that I turn out to be a bit shit. I usually always play spontaneous casters because then I don't have to worry about preparing a spell that never gets used and ends up being a wasted slot.

Or is there a way to regain a wasted spell slot?

I dunno, I am just worried.

>>50986740
Anon, we've managed to segway from "is she old enough to fug" to "how do Golarian cultures handle legal adulthood". Don't try to drag it back down to childfucking because the conversation acknowledged that's fucked up and started looking at the other parts of adulthood.

>>50986525
I mean, if you want to draw on the actual half-kitsune mythology, then they're said to result in extremely powerful sorcerers but otherwise look human. Fey bloodline probably has the closest fluff.

>>50986806
Pick spells that are super versatile, like Summon Monster

>>50986807
You know damn well that the entire thing is just dressing for "When can I force the other players to deal with my pedophilia." No matter how you dress it up.

>>50986806
Play a cleric, spend wasted slots on healing or harming fools!

>>50986806
Which prepared caster, anon? Because if you're like, a wizard, there's a discovery that kicks your single-slot spell prep time down to a minute, meaning you can prep your necessary spells and then leave slots open if you need to dig out a utility spell.

Otherwise, well, even if your spells selection is shit one day, you can still rearrange it in the morning. Carry a fuckton of low level utility spells as scrolls, prep general purpose stuff if you're worried, carry a couple cheap wands of stuff you think you'll need.

>>50986845
Even if it is, this is starting to look like an awful lot of projecting

>>50986740
As long as it doesn't actually start going on about sex I don't see a problem. Whether golarion's sending children off to murder orcs while they're not even allowed to drive or vote, or whether they're not even allowed to take specialized training before they've reached majority (thus starting age being, say, 15+2d8) tells you a lot about a culture.

Crime and justice as well: Consider America, where you can be considered an adult for sentencing in criminal proceedings before you're even allowed to learn to drive, and with a drinking age of 21, you're not only treated as an adult for all the bad stuff, but can't even have a beer legally despite that for some years, and are even allowed to be shipped overseas and shot. You're old enough to sign your life away, but you're not old enough to make your own decisions about booze.

Ages of majority, consent, 'punishment' and all those things tell us a LOT about a kingdom or culture.

>>50986740
If any mention of ages whatsoever immediately makes you think about CP, you might have a fucking problem.

It reminds me of Santorum, and how he so disagreed with gay sex:
>If you thought about gay sex about as I do you'd know how disgusting it is
(yeah uh, I don't think about it, sorry Rick!)

>>50986891
It's /pfg/, everything here either starts off about sex or turns into. The conversation started off on raping 12 year olds.

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>>50986845
Are you ANGRY that we switched from this?
Are you hoping we'll go back to lolicon-stuff from a raging "fuck you" reaction to your trolling?

Are you pic related?

>>50986838
>>50986860
>>50986864

I plan on being a wizard, was looking at Spell Sage because of the +4 CL 1/day which was going to be my trump card against tough encounters. I think I will take my time going through what would be viable though.

>>50986845
If you think discussing rites of passage is pedophilia, then maybe you've got some issues you need to deal with.

>>50986804

low.

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As a GM, what's a good way to "reward" people for staying in character? I've often heard from my players that even if their characters would (or would not) do something, it's obvious to the players that this is a bad idea. And therefore, they essentially get "punished" for acting like their character would.

As an example, one of my players plays a Fighter with a great love for all things alcoholic. I have prepared some barrels with Amber Ooze in them (3PP monster that hides in Ale-barrels and gives a Will-save penalty when ingested). The chances of him drinking straight from the barrel the moment I describe it are around 90%. But I'm afraid that when I spring this on him, he will be cautious and stop playing his character like he wants to play it.
Is there some method that could help me reward my players in situations like this?

>>50987075
Hero points, maybe? When a player does something that would be in-character for him to do even when it puts him at a disadvantage, award a hero point. It's something that awards good roleplaying without causing permanent disparity.

Leveling up is illogical and immersion breaking
There is literally no believable reason why characters become stronger at such rapid rate

>>50987075
5e has inspiration, if there's any equivalent in PF.

>>50987073
Alrighty then.

>>50987124
That's fine, game mechanics have a habit of being illogical and immersion breaking.

>>50987147
To make the game better
we need to remove game mechanics

>>50986740
If you want to post like an SA goon, don't do it on 4chan.

>>50987159
To make the game better
we need to remove the player base.

>>50987122
Hero Points could work, but their effects look a bit too powerful for the rate I'd want to award them.

>>50987124
That looks pretty neat actually. I could probably port that system in it's entirety and go from there. Thanks.

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My character in a one GM, two player, serial killer-themed, evil game set in post-Jade-Regent Kasai will be using Shattered Mirror.

Craft (sketching) can be a discipline skill for Shattered Mirror.

Would it be terrible if I gave my character Craft (sketching) and had my character produce cutesy drawings with wide appeal to foreigners?

That would mean that my character could attack and defend with the sheer power of manga.

>>50987124
>Not tying experience and leveling up into the lore and backstory of your game so it actually makes sense

The reason my players are special is because they can gain this power in such a rapid rate. Where other NPCs devote their entire lives to only becoming level 6 or 7, the players reach that point in just over a month.

>>50987208
Well explain that power then
Everything must have a reason.

>>50987223
They're the protagonists.

>>50987232
In-universe explanation that upholds verisimilitude
If you do not have one, you are just breaking immersion

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>>50987203
>not craft glassmaking

>>50987247
I don't care, my players don't care. Why does it matter then? Am I having bad wrong fun?

>>50987223
That power is actually linked to one of the Great Old Ones residing on another plan. They aren't the only people with this power as they have met many others.

The Great Old One cannot step into the mortal plane, so he is filtering his power through the PCs as they act as unwilling conduits.

The Great Old One is giving them power, similarly to how a deity grants divine power to a Paladin or a Cleric.

>>50987262
yes

>>50987262
Well you and your players are definitely less intellectual

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>>50987351
Hah, okay. I'll bow down to your intellectual greatness and tell my players we're playing how you want now. Recommendations?

>>50987369
Steal from Dark Souls

>>50987223
Some people are just better than others. PCs are just special because they are better than NPCS

>>50987388
I don't like dark souls.

>>50987397
Steal from Divinity

>>50987397
Don't you want to tell them the game you're running is "like Dark Souls"

>>50987450
I have no interest in that either, though.
>>50987462
Not particularly? I mean, it's not like I'm selling an indie game.

What should I do if the locals offer a child bride (10-13) to my character as a reward for saving them from an evil mummy lord? He's a lawful Good cleric.

I'm worried, /pfg/

>>50987474
Well aren't you boring
Get some interests buddy

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>>50987484

>>50987496
I collect reaction images, how can I fit that into my game.

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>>50987506
Print them in each session and hand them out

>>50987484
And here we go. Fuck this general.

>>50987522
But nope, I'm the pedophile apparently, because I know what this general does.

>>50987484
Say that your faith (or your code) does not allow you to marry a woman who hasn't yet lived through 20 winters in a most polite manner.

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>>50986845

Anon, I'm going to say this very plainly.

You're being a fucking stick in the mud by instantly trying to shut down any and all attempts at converting a blatant fetish topic into something productive for both the thread and our understanding of the setting as a whole. This topic started as a thinly-veiled "ey yo I wanna fuck that teen" but it's long-since become a discussion on what "childhood" or "adulthood' actually means in Golarion, and it varies!

We're taking bits of sand that went into our filter-feeder mouths and are trying to spin them into pearls. Just because the origin of this conversation is irritating does not mean the end result of the conversation will be equally stupid.

>>50987540
No, you punch the GM in the face. You tell them you're there to have fun, not to have to deal with sexual slavery.

>>50987540
I plan to try this, but my character canonically loses control of his impulses when he drinks alcohol (which we've played for laughs in the past.) I'm worried that the DM will concoct some kind of festival with booze, and he'll be sunk.

>>50987568
Losing control of impulses shouldn't mean you do shit WAAAAY outside your character's moral code, anon.

>>50987550
Converting blatant fetishes into actual conversation spurs them on just as much and makes them come out into the open more. Were furries that big of a deal before we got kitsune, catfolk, skinwalkers or whatever?

>>50987550
How would Cheliax treat adulthood and coming of age?

>>50987075
>Is there some method that could help me reward my players in situations like this?

Roleplay is often it's own reward, if you punish the player for staying in-character than you better reward him with some positive roleplaying later.

Example: The Ranger notices some valuable and incredibly rare flowers in a clearing of a forest that could be used to cure his [insert disease or curse here,] but chooses not to pick them because their loss might spell doom for that entire species in the region. He chooses to suffer a mechanical drawback because he wanted to stay in character.

Because of this, the Ranger chances upon a Hamadryad, who noticed his selfless action protecting the forest's ecosystem and, since she is the corporeal manifestation of the forest, he was in a way protecting her. The Hamadryad can not cure him of his malaise, but shows him the way out of the forest and offers to reward him with a rare bow crafted from the heartwood of her own sacred tree when he returns.

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Tell me about your experiences fighting cults, /pfg/. Did they try to recruit you? Were they actually a genuine threat to the realm, or were they just a bunch of wackos with too much time on their hands playing with things they didn't understand?

>>50987587
That's the idea, but still, probably going to Owl's Wisdom beforehand or something in case he tries to make him roll a save for it.

>>50987540
>>50987561
i like you

>>50987568
Low impulse control doesn't mean 'instant rapist'. In this case? It probably means 'murder all the child sex slaver fuckheads regardless of the political ramifications, flee into the night with all the children you've rescued'

>>50987684
>arrange marriage
>"child sex slavers"

No.

>>50987647
>Were they actually a genuine threat to the realm, or were they just a bunch of wackos with too much time on their hands playing with things they didn't understand?

Both? I've got regional Death Cults and I've got stuff that would be right at home in a ZOG thread on /pol/

>>50987713
Yes. This child is being sold to this adult so they can be joined as one. The child doesn't get a choice in the matter. Sexual slavery by any other name is just as foul.

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>>50986186
>expecting anything less from mortals

>>50987713
Arranged marriage to a 13 year old? Yeah, it is.

>>50987738
The parents choosing to marry their child off is very different from that child being sold to slavery.

>>50987594
>Were furries that big of a deal before we got kitsune, catfolk, skinwalkers or whatever?

We've had Catfolk and Kitsune and Skinwalkers since forever, man. Those things have been in the setting since the days of Greta, and I can assure you we rarely talked about them back then.

What we're seeing now is sustained shitposting due to people throwing a shitfit at the first sight of a busty, barely-dressed fox girl, and knowing they can get a rise out of people they continue to post those barely dressed fox girls.

Treat the question like a question, and before long they'll realize all they'll get out of you are answers when they want reactions. If you've noticed, the earlier discussions of fucking teens has died out after we dissected the issue.

>>50987624

Adulthood and coming of age would be a very precise thing in a country that's all about law. When a boy becomes a man or when a girl becomes a woman is very likely codified, and given Paizo's West Coast Bubble sensibilities, I'd say their AoC laws list them at 18.

>>50987684
Good point. Though that might bring some heat down on us from "legitimate authorities"

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>All cultures from around the world and f i c t i o n have to abide by our American/West-European [CURRENT YEAR] worldview.

>>50987801
No it isn't.

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>>50987738
>>50987740
>>50987801

Here's me posting a smug anime girl at the outrage over something that has produced innumerable successful, happy marriages since Greek times.

There is literally nothing wrong with arranged marriages. If you're worried about your partner being cruel or ugly, pray to Shelyn before you tie the knot! That's what The Eternal Maiden is there for!

>>50987822
>I wanna fuck children and I don't want to hear complaints about it from anybody.

>>50987740
>>50987738
What if he's chaste and merely supports and protects the girl until she's older?

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>>50987858
>Implying I give in to the wills of the flesh

>>50987822
Yes, most people tend to not want to fuck children. Good job.

>>50987822

Golarion is written by a Washington-based company full of sheltered white people who grew up on Californian standards.

>>50987858

A 15 year old who completed his Rite of Passage is not a child, he's a man.

>>50987871
She was sold to another person without her informed consent.

>>50987879
You know damn well you don't even have the opportunity to give in.

>>50987837
Yes it is. A wife has rights, a slave does not.

>>50987817
Makes sense. Andoran will have an age of majority for voting and thus adulthood purposes, since under Common Rule, the adult is a citizen with rights and privileges associated therewith.

What about Taldor?

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>>50986644
Because there is no hope.

>>50987897
>She was sold to another person without her informed consent.

That's kind of the point of an Arranged Marriage, anon.

Young people are retarded and don't know what they need, only what they want. If your parents can negotiate your marriage to a man that can provide for you, protect you and come to love you, than they've done more to secure your future than your horny-ass ever will.

Again, parents arranging marriages for their children has been a thing since Ancient Times, and it worked really fucking well.

>>50987897
>She was sold to another person without her informed consent.
Except she wasn't, shithead.

>>50987897
How do you cure the situation best, causing the least harm to the least number of people involved? Turn down the marriage and offend a community? Leave the child in another community and never speak with her again? What's the ideal path?

>neckbeards defending sexual slavery because they know they'll have authority over their child bride and use that their advantages.

>>50987955
You do what >>50987561 said and tell the dm to stop with that shit.

>>50987935
>it worked well

Yeah, all that inbreeding worked out /real/ well for the monarchies of Europe.

>>50987203
>Being halfway to HEAVEN'S DOOR

This sounds like a pretty great idea.

>>50986196

Does the Queen have the booty?

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Tell me about your homebrew, /pfg/. What stuff are you working on? What stuff do you wish was official so you didn't have to plug away at it? What official stuff are you trying to make a homebrew fix for? Have you ever used your homebrew in a game, and did it work out? Have you ever had other people use your homebrew?

>>50988037

The Queen's humanoid form has breasts the size of her torso and hips that won't quit. She's been a mother for a thousand years, and it shows.

>>50987999
It fails when parents have things like political motives that override their parental love, but in countries like india where there's a much more common arranged marriage culture, there is a solid track record of them being stable and working out well.

Because guess what, good parents genuinely care about their children and aren't going to set them up with some deadbeat.

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I wanna play a gish, but I don't want to magus it up. Are there any good 3pp gishes out there?

Also, /pfg/, give me a picture you want to build a character around.

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>>50988075
>>50988037


Can confirm, Humanoid form has good genes... or has manufactured genes...

I don't know anymore. she's just good.

>>50988087
Do you actually want to be able to cast spells, or are you happy with the magic themes of flaming swords and shooting beams?

>>50987999

Oh sure, the Hapsburgs were the only royal family that ever existed in Europe and were the only people known for arranging marriages.

Did you know that arranged marriages were used among the peasantry to make sure inbreeding didn't happen? Amazing I know, but parents from one village might negotiate with parents from another village over who has available sons and daughters for their own sons or daughters.

Because guess what, if you're letting your children "marry for love" in a village of 300, eventually the gene pool is going to get muddy.

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>>50988117
Well I like the variety of spells, being able to buff myself, a couple of utility things, and being able to augment my offenses to match situations. It doesn't have to be spellcasting, though, I guess.

>>50988087
I'm no expert but the Mageknight from Spheres looks like what you'd want.

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>>50988087
>Also, /pfg/, give me a picture you want to build a character around.

>>50987915
>What about Taldor?

The Land of Knights and Chivalry would obviously keep those ancient orders in mind when determining Rites of Passage or age of adulthood - rather than being a codified thing or an issue of running up the mountainside to collect a rare mind-altering herb for your spirit journey, children in Taldor would become pages, squires and apprentices, and when they finish their training they are officially adults.

You don't fuck your squire, but you can fuck a knight. That sort of thing.

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>>50988102

Oh sweet Jesus that figure.

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>>50988087
>pictures you want to build a character around

I mean, I guess.

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>>50988087
>Also, /pfg/, give me a picture you want to build a character around.

>>50985802
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
>still no spheres
Does the new GM not like them either or are they just keeping that bit for no good reason?

>>50988274
Spheres do not play nicely with Vancian casting.

>>50988298
Get rid of vancian casting then, but what's wrong with having both?

>>50988298
Um, they totally do.
They're two separate systems to track, but what exactly goes wrong when they can both be used?

>>50987822

If we wanted to base Golarion's culture and laws on CURRENT YEAR society, than people would marry at 35 and have 1.5 children.

>>50988171
>he doesn't fuck his squire

Art thou a knave that would deny the squire some of the most important lessons of all?

>>50988102
Would honorably serve and fight for/10

How does /pfg/ feel about characters with multiple personality disorder?

>>50988575
They aren't going to be done well so they shouldn't be done at all.

>>50987851
[citation needed]. It's fucking pedophilia, and we're not conducting a historical analysis, we're talking about a goddamn roleplaying game as people in the present day who SHOULDN'T be so fucked up they want to bone a pubescent girl. Y'all fuckers need Jesus.

>>50986196

Does the Dragon Queen have any siblings?

>>50988575
Real people with disassociative disorders are really fucking unnerving to be around, and I wouldn't trust a player to ever pull that off properly.

>>50988626
No, anon, you're the real pedophile or something.

>>50988171
So Unbearded common folk would just apprentice or serf it up? How do we know when little Ludmila graduates from helping her parents put buns in the oven to getting a bun put in her oven?

>>50985927
40°C fever, so a damn hot start if you ask me

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>>50988645

Oldest of three siblings, last she check five hundred years ago.

>Have to make a choice between playing a base Avowed which I had a cute idea for but find a bit mechanically average, or a Betrothed Avowed which I would find more mechanically fun but would need a more convoluted backstory that could clash with the setting

Decisions are hard.

>>50988702
Gods, aunt or not, that bob cut is hitting me in just the right place.

Anybody got the PDF for the First World book?

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>>50988744
>>50988702
Same, but for pink hair and witch's hat. Really digging her robes too.

I had a dream. I was DMing a game for a single player, where they were playing a minor BBEG with a lair.

Anyway they started rolling up random encounters and started fighting heroes on their own and I was just sitting there all miffed and thinking "but I'm the DM, I'm supposed to roll that stuff!"

>>50988790
Thank goodness magic can probably eliminate any possible incest-based defects.

...magic can do that, right?

>>50988829

Well lets see. On average a dragon only lays about 5 clutches of eggs their entire life. Queen Culdranth has layed over 200....

I dont think the normal rules apply here.

>>50988829
I'm sure theres amniomorphic spells in use by higher magic institutions.
Hell, you could probably get a designer baby with the right contacts.

>>50988814
Well I would happily be the minor BBEG for you and you can roll all the random encounters.

>>50988626
I can't imagine the people want to be murderers either, but they play as them in these games.

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>>50988626
>implying Jesus can help us now

Call it blasphemy, but I don't see any fixing this.

>>50988550

You don't fuck the squire, you introduce the squire to Camilla, the sweet barmaid you slipped five silver to earlier that night so she could take him upstairs and make him a man.

>>50988452
Vancian casting makes some spheres uterlly pointless.

Like Divination essentially becomes useless outside of Talents and Drawback cheese for blindsight.

Cantrips feat is now worthless

>>50988653

We know when her parents know.

Ludmila will be happily putting buns in the oven until, one day, she's introduced to Alderic, a cute squire of a passing knight that talked with her parents earlier!

>>50988852

Why is Culdranth so productive?

>>50989258

Dragon DM here.

Its related to why she has 5 heads instead of just one.

>>50989202
So some bits of spheres are suboptimal if you include vancian casting. What's the problem with including spheres then?

>>50989202
>Because everyone in a game which allows Vancian Magic has it.

Flawed logic, desu.

The two only don't play as nice if you have both at the same damn time.

>>50989306
>>Because everyone in a game which allows Vancian Magic has it
No, but there' s not too much point in spending several feats(or feat equivalent one talent is worth one feat) to bring you up to speed another party member can do simply by nature of being another class.

That's Divination vs Detect magic.

>>50989357
Some parts of spheres also invalidate vancian.
That's how it will always be when you have two different systems.

>>50989357
>thinking that people who want to use spheres care this much

>>50989400
Probably not but it's an example
>>50989399
In what cases, I can only think of twinking out destruction and even then that's not invalidating Vancian blasting, you just get to do it earlier.

>>50989422
So no two aspects of a game are allowed to overlap at all ever?

>>50989194
If he can't even pull his own honeys, I don't think he'll ever be ready for knighthood

>>50989014
The people that are masturbating while coming up with ideas on how to murder npcs also have issues.

>>50989441
Of course not, I'm just saying I can see the logic behind not letting them mix.

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>>50989292
>>50989258

Another thing to note is that every single one of Culdranth's Descendants is effectively a mutant. You guys age weirdly, often times in huge growth spurts. you "Breed" isn't certain at all until you hatch. Its all fucked up. Even if you guys turn out relatively normal.

>kill a PC off
>it feels good
this is how DM vs Players starts.

>>50989292
Hey Dragon GM

What kinds of things are you looking to have happen in the campaign? Looking at the ad it mostly says something about doing bits of work and being kinda draconic.

Is it gonna be heroic murderhoboing? Going off to find waifus and bring them back home? Husbandos? Are going to go shake down villages for loot and virgins ,build hordes, become True Dragons, what the main thrust?

>>50989494

Explain!

>>50989202
>cantrips feat is now worthless

isn't it recommended that spherecasters get that feat for free anyway?

>>50989239
This sounds cute

>ywn play out a cutesy teenage romance in your campaign

Why even play a role?

>>50989446

Even Podrick Payne needed Tyrion and Bronn to hook him up with those whores, anon.

It was common for the young types squiring with knights to discover womenfolk through meetings organized by their master.

>>50989535
i purposely split the party so i could put the PC i couldn't fucking stand in a situation where she would die
she got her ass ripped to shreds by crazed cultists after trying to convince them she was actually their leader

>>50989530

Well i had a few ideas.

The main idea i had was Queen Culdranth has been waiting for a really long time for *Something*. And Now after a thousand years of being content with eating candy, reading books and being a general loaf. She suddenly want to take a very active role in the world around her.

Why? Is some cosmic event happening? Was she biding her time so that her natural power would increase to take the world by storm all of a sudden? Is this mearly just her haveing a very late mid life crisis?

You should be as much in the dark as the rest of the citizens. This sudden need for activity is as alien as can possibly be.


As for general campaign direction, I expect that Draconic Intrigue, Treasure Hunting, and Titanic battles would be the three man focuses of the the campaign.

>>50989539
The wiki says it but I can't find it any books.

>>50989460
What if I'm masturbating while coming up with a compelling, believable hero with a combination of concrete goals and high ideals?

>>50989646

Then more power to you!

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>>50989558
>Why even play a role?

There is literally nothing stopping you from playing an awkward 16 year old sorceress dork or alchemist lad that falls madly in love with another young person.

>>50987740
Only in our specific modern-day specific western value system. Feudal times had different ages AND LIFESPANS, so marrying at 20 was like staying a virgin till you're 30 today. MANY marriages were arranged, especially if you were nobility, as that was how you signed contracts or peacefully ended feuds back then.

A knight wasn't usually allowed to marry until he could support a family, so it was far from rare to have a 22-25 year old marrying a 13-14 year old.

You were probably dead by 50 anyways.

oaky folkies posting this again because the last time I did it the thread got archived so HERE wE GO

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LZldGlHu0p6JorqqwnzadMyHx874TVfzXTH6kOEjcRo/edit

Ironbodied Folk. They're LITERAL STATUES. How good of an FCB: All is 1/4th a point of DR/Adamantine? Would it be better if it were DR/- that stacked with other forms of DR?

>>50989702
>You were probably dead by 50 anyways.
Reminder that this whole "died really early" meme was planted by Hollywood not understanding the reason the mortality rate was low: a lot of infants died, but those who didn't often lived to 70 or 80.

>>50989702
Wizards fly around shooting fireballs out of their ass at fire-breathing flying lizards that collect shiny bits. Stop trying to justify your desire to fuck children in the game with "muh historical realism"

>>50989720
Correct.

>>50989720
Actually I thought "dead by thirty was a meme" and most medieval folks did live to around 50-60ish.

>>50989711
2/10

>>50989702
>so marrying at 20 was like staying a virgin till you're 30 today.

Holy shit, this.

A Bride's Tale is a super popular manga around here and everyone laments how the main character is going to be super old and withered when her child husband's old enough to bed her because she's already 22 and will probably be around 25 when they can do the dirty.

>>50989720

And people still married young, because fertility was a very fickle thing and you wanted to be pumping out babies as soon as you're able and financially supported.

Because when you're 50 and feeble, you want a small horde of strong sons and married daughters to work your lands and keep you fed.

>>50989744

>Wizards fly around shooting fireballs out of their ass at fire-breathing flying lizards that collect shiny bits. Stop trying to justify your desire to fuck children in the game with "muh historical realism"

And we've got space shuttles and miniature computers and we're still killing each other over religion.

See how your argument is dumb?

>>50989562
Yeah, because he was a fucking dork. Jon fucking Snow just started pulling honeys. Even Theon Greyjoy scored some casual blowing, and he was pretty fucking skeezy.

>>50988122
This.
We all know about kansas and utah and other such places and what happens there, but even Canada was not safe from this practice. Lac-St-Jean region in quebec is notorious for certain genetic problems like muscular dystrophy.

It turns out that when your whole family spends all its time in a small area it settled, passing down businesses and farms, it doesn't take many generations before all the girls you know are technically your cousins. A couple of generations of "I married the one girl that was a first cousin instead of virtually my half-sister" and the neighbor's kid has an electric wheelchair and an 18 year life expectancy with 12 of them useless.

>>50989769

Jon Snow got Ygritte because she was a wild, very-assertive young woman that liked his adorable curly locks and gormish facial expressions.

Theon Greyjoy scored blowjobs and easy ass because he's a wealthy nobleman bedding whores and harlots. He was getting honeys due to his position.

>>50989750
>>50989720
Little of both. "Dead by thirty" was what everyone claims, but that's because Hollywood and Dung-Ages Fiction writers can't do averages or math. A lot of people didn't make it out past 2 or 3 years old (and as such, people were having kids at 15 or 16 and didn't really stop having kids until they were 30 or 40), but if you got out of toddlerhood then you were pretty safely going to survive until 60 or 70; a bit less than the 80s and 90s that people can get to today with regularity, but still pretty fucking old.

>>50989683
But I'm already playing a thirty-something cleric with no romance in sight...

>>50989810
>and as such, people were having kids at 15 or 16 and didn't really stop having kids until they were 30 or 40

But anon, that's a skeevy statement! Jessica Price herself has claimed that Golarion is fine with most women having 0-2 children because that's how it is in the modern day!

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>>50989832

>Career woman lamenting the loss of her youth and subsequent dating prospects

Women that age are considered "desperate" for a reason, anon. Same with men to some degree.

>>50989764
>>50989810
The married young thing wasn't as socially acceptable as you've been taught to believe, actually.

If you WERE married to a young woman in most European cultures, you were expected to not have intercourse with her until she was at the very least 16.

The whole "dudes in their 50s were cumming inside 13 year old girls on the regular" meme isn't true, they were outliers that most people shunned.

>>50989764
But she's hella cute. Even when she's old she'll still be cute.

>>50986196

She title claims she's master of the Arcane. How so?

>>50988575
We couldn't come to an agreement on the subject.


Seriously though; no one wants to be AROUND those people very long, and the better it's played the worse it would be.

Bipolar's already bad enough, but imagine if the "muh gender fluids" asshole didn't just get triggered at the wrong (yet technically correct and of appropriate syntax) pronoun, but actually regularly flipped playstyles and way of talking or seeing things entirely.

We used to have asylums for a reason. They may have been abused, and they weren't always a good thing, but they did exist due to a need.

>>50989832
Better accept that offered child bride then.

>>50989832
But is she cute?

>>50989841
Well, even having Stabilize around as a cantrip makes the whole process of childbirth and young children growing up INCREDIBLY safer, since as long as there's a cleric or mid-level paladin around, it's literally impossible to die from bleeding out.

So it would make sense that birth rates would be lower, in the same way that birth rates go down in the real world when availability of health care goes up.

>>50989876
Marrying young was also something that almost always only happened among the wealthy and nobility. The common people would most often marry in late teens/early 20s because they wanted to have some money saved up first to be able to start married life with.

>>50988626
>y'all fuckers need jesus
That doesn't seem to help all those 'true christians' who bone little children and then say it's okay because they prayed and keisar-ephes forgave them for their sins.

then their parishes get all offended that someone would dare want to bring the law into these "totally matters of faith", or at worst they switch'im parishes* to get a whole fresh set of toddler prey.


*or synagogues, if it's the more "purification bath" kind of creepy old bastard.

>>50989799
Plus J-Snowy was aces at sucking that girl-dick

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>>50988575
>ywn play a Time Sphere focused Symbiat

>>50989917
Yeah, people also need to remember this:

Most of what you think you know about the medieval era was shit written by clergymen that lived with other men that all were unmarried and usually virgins.

You've basically been reading what medieval 4chan said about the world and the most of our media has taken it as fact.

>>50989881

Well The Demesne is a physical location that resides simultaneously in both Taldor and Thuvia, which are on seperate landmasses.

In addition The cavern in which the Demesne is made from is formed enter form Geode crystal. Something that doesn't form easily without being either at the bottom of a river or near a volcano.

Not to mention her appearance is clearly not natural. Though weather she did that herself or it just happened to her is anyone's guess. She probably doesn't even remember.

>>50989473
That certainly explains the fairy dragons, their giant different-species cousin, and the humanoids.

>>50989863
Not sure if slutting it up is Justice or not.

>>50989898
>So it would make sense that birth rates would be lower, in the same way that birth rates go down in the real world when availability of health care goes up.

Paizo has been incredibly schizophrenic with the availability of magic in Golarion, and saying birth rates should be down because magic exists is like saying people shouldn't be starving in the modern day because modern irrigation techniques exist.

And lower birth rates is not due to available health care, it's due to available social services such as pensions and social security. People had 6 children not because three of them might die in childhood, but because those 6 children will provide for them when they're old.

When you're old and gray, who's going to put food on your table? The village, or your children and grandchildren?

>>50989981
>Most of what you think you know about the medieval era was shit written by clergymen that lived with other men that all were unmarried and usually virgins.

Says you, I regularly read Primary Sources on the Middle Ages written by everyone from Emperors to literate commoners.

Plus clergymen weren't always awkward neckbeards, they were commonly second sons or slutty daughters that were too risky to keep around with inheritance.

>>50989841
>because that's how it is in the modern day!
Only in supremely-advanced parts of the world like Japan or France, and those have large amounts of immigration to make up for the downward-spiral of population. In a setting like Golarion, Price's belief as to how the world works would only mean that the constant attacks by goblins, orcs, demons, drow, and other such monsters would very quickly get everyone killed.

>>50990048
Depends on what country you're talking about, but yes.

And I wasn't saying you directly, I meant it in the plural form, my apologies.

But overall, a lot of the misconceptions about the medieval era, especially the role of women (it wasn't as bad as people think for women) comes from the clergy.

>>50990057
To be fair most of those monsters are jobbers and most towns have at least a few level 4-7 people kicking around.

>>50989562
Arranged marriages ranged from
>you'll give us HOW MANY sheep, you said?
to
>she's 19. Anyone, ANYTHING will do, surely one of you has something they need to ship off somewhere as well? maybe a blind one maybe?
to
>their daughter has similar tastes and values to your own, and from what I know of you, she's dead center of your strike-zone so to speak. our families are on good terms and it would be perfect to head the village on the border between our lands before anyone starts getting tense about who owns the place

hell, for all of people's complaints today; consider how many are signing up for fucking e-harmony, j-date and christian-mingle and the like.
>Oh shit, I couldn't find anything decent for myself, let's have people set me up, maybe that way I'll have a chance

it's not new!

>>50990057
Charitably speaking, the counter-point is that there's also a generally stronger type of average person defending their homes, usually with the backup of the town priest, local militia, and at least an adept.

That said, it's a pretty sure thing that mortality rate is still going to be high unless there's PC-class people around to fight those monsters.

>>50990057
>Price's belief as to how the world works would only mean that the constant attacks by goblins, orcs, demons, drow, and other such monsters would very quickly get everyone killed.

Not just attacks by those things, but something as simple as accidents or disease would kill more than an Orc ever will.

Price has literally no understanding how the Middle Ages were and how those governments operated or provided for their citizenry. Social Security did not exist. Medicare did not exist. If you wanted to live comfortably as an old man, you needed sons and daughters, and a lot of them.

How the hell is one farmer boy supposed to support two parents?

>>50990090
>it wasn't as bad as people think for women
No, people just forget life really wasn't pleasant for anybody Male or Female.

>>50989631
Different applicant here, but, what might you be looking for FROM us, more specifically? Like, what are your hopes and dreams? Plenty of players or characters may be either uncertain everything they wanna do or even on the fence about where to take things, so knowing "well that's the kind of game/roleplay gm is hoping for" isn't railroading at this point, more just a compass.

>>50990117
Obviously, but I'm referring to the fact that in many European nations, women often took the role of being the diplomatic head of house hold, managed finances and managed the defense of the home if her husband was at war.

>>50990057
>immigration
>make up for the downward-spiral of population
You realize immigration doesn't grow your population at all in practice, right? It grows a foreign population inside your borders and not your own one.

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>>50990090

>mfw reading a Primary Source by Anna Komnene
>mfw she's talking about horoscopes and astrology like they're huge fucking hacks

>>50989898
>But is she cute?

He's a half-elf, so definitely.

>>50990141
Intermarriage and the like increases population, unless you're an idiot and keep all immigrants in their own little ghettos, which all that causes is crime to rise.

>>50990135
>women often took the role of being the diplomatic head of house hold, managed finances and managed the defense of the home if her husband was at war.

Especially in Scandinavia, where women were considered the head of the household and master of finances.

Men were the warriors and the rulers, they were the ones that made laws, but the person that kept the household was the woman - hell, this was an understood thing in Medieval Russia (where you'd expect a bastion of misogyny) which discussed how a "house without a woman is a house in disarray."

>>50990173

Why are people unwilling to fuck their own race, but will happily marry another?

>>50990141
Found the Rahadoumi rabble-rouser

>>50990154

>Worrying about being in your 30s and unmarried as a man

But why? You'd be in trouble if you were a woman, but men are desirable as partners well into their 30s.

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>>50989882
>I will never again be able to hear the term 'gender fluid' and not immediately imagine the person is calling themselves semen or girlcum

I feel okay with this.

>>50988140
Bloodrager maybe?

>>50990126

I like exaggeration. I don't want some "grizzeld mercenary in it only for the money that doesnt speak a word."

I want bombastic personalites, i want ambitions, i want someone to see an undiscovered island on the map and say "This is mine now." Larger than life people.

I want dragons.

>>50990195
>Why are people unwilling to fuck their own race, but will happily marry another?
They're not? Interacial marriages are really fucking uncommon.

That lady marrying not getting lynched for marrying a nigger doesn't mean jack shit, calm down Heinrich.

>>50990195
Exoticism and the mistaken belief that an outsider will ALWAYS shake things up when it comes to how things work.

The Japanese, as a culture, are raised under the idea that it's honorable to put work and your superiors over yourself, but all that causes is men and women to focus solely on their jobs and fuck over any chances of having a family; the people who don't have jobs are shunned as freaks, and thus don't get any marriage or sex either, therefore ALSO not increasing the population. But "everyone knows" that Americans are blonde-and-tanned sluts/studs, Europeans are Pale Americans, and even other Asians are Stupid Americans. This is all wrong, of course, but the Japanese are fucked-up like that, as is every other culture on the whole damn planet.

>>50990195
If you went outside once in a while, you'd know that interracial marriages aren't as common as you seem to think.

>Why are people unwilling to fuck their own race, but will happily marry another?

Because that's their choice. They find those people attractive. Why do you care?

>>50990195
That may be an instinctive attempt to avoid inbreeding.

We know our targeting suite is glitchy as all fuck, but evolution is about "good enough in a general sense spread across the population" and not "aw yeah perfection". That's how we get gays, bis and lesbians; in terms of continuation of the species, it's a minor whoops. very minor, because individuals don't matter, the species as a whole does in these scales.

another glitch we know of is that close cousins or even siblings, if you never grew up with them, can be highly attractive due to "oh hey, these genes are similar to mine but not exactly mine, that's even more spreading of my own genes if I fuck it".

chances are, "this is exotic and different" is exactly the counterbalance to that last one.

>>50990292
There's a difference between "caring" and intellectual curiosity.

Haven't you ever wondered things without them directly impacting our life?

>>50990173
The intermingling doesn't work out so well when you import a bazillion untrained shitters that will breed more children that inherit their social standing, and you do this over multiple generations, and they don't speak your language, they follow alien habits, come from lawless hellholes and bring the lack of law with them, and are members to a death cult that hasn't gone through hundreds of years worth of reforms.

Also the intermarriage doesn't work out so well when people on both sides prefer their own company, and have completely incompatible ideas of how things like relations between genders and family work.

>>50990057
>Japan
>Immigration
>Laughing Geishas.png

Japan's the only one doing population restabilization right. Everyone else imports third world problems with third world citizens to keep up the myth of endless growth to appease shareholder. Japan is the only 1st world nation that actually gives a shit about its people and lets the population stabilize with automation rather than toss them out because they're not breeding enough cheap labor for the corporations to exploit.

Not saying Japan's ideal, but they at least don't have those problems.

>>50990211
He'll probably turn out alright; he's got heroic, religious conviction. That said, I don't see much hope for the wandering holy warrior to ever have a family, and the saddest part is that it doesn't even bother him. He's too busy thinking about killing demons.

>>50990320
A minor "whoops" that has, recently, been shown to have some evolutionary advantages: Evolutionary psychologists now believe that in our primitive and tribal stages, homosexual tribe members were useful as extra care-takers and would feel a stronger connection to the tribe than a heterosexual male, but would also increase the chance of a "better" specimen being the one to impregnate all the females in the tribe.

Today on how /PFG/ can sleeve out the rest of /tg/

>>50990376
Fuckoff /pol/.

>>50990000

Slutting it up can be considered Justice if you're doing it for a good cause!

How does psionics interact with magic?

Can a psionically "magical" item be detected as a magic item?

Numerian techno-whatsits can't be detected as 'magic', can they? Is it similar?

>>50990376
Educate them, idiot. Humans are clay. Shape the clay, or you can't call yourself a man.

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>>50986196

How well known is Culdranth to the world at large?

>>50990379
>lets the population stabilize

No, what they're actually doing is

>lets the population rot in their beds when they get old because the younger workforce isn't big enough to care for them and automation can't substitute for nursing homes

>>50990012
>And lower birth rates is not due to available health care, it's due to available social services such as pensions and social security. People had 6 children not because three of them might die in childhood, but because those 6 children will provide for them when they're old.
Actually it's kind of both. 3 children would probably be enough to take care of you pretty well, but if you have only 3 children, the odds are pretty good that one or two of them are going to die before making it to the adulthood or even through infancy, so...

>>50990292

Interracial marriages are portrayed as extremely common in the media!

>>50990481
No, they aren't.

You're telling yourself that, but really, you're only seeing what you want to see.

>>50990437
>How does psionics interact with magic?

They treat each other as the same thing.

>>50990509
Inconvenient.

And "technology", numeria-style?

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>>50990447

To mortals? They know jack shit about her.

To dragons? Only a select few old ones, and any previous mates of hers know about her.

>>50990443
>shaping the clay
>not destroying it

What are you, someone with Hope or Goodness in your heart?

>>50990470
One dies from illness as an infant
One gets crushed by a horse or something
One runs off to gods know where in search of who the fuck knows what
One dies after getting drafted by the local lord
One goes with the wife's family because they'd lost THEIR sons so he'll be taking that farm
Six don't feel all that overwhelming anymore... maybe we should've had one more just to be safe...

>>50990352
I suppose I have. I'm just touchy on the subject.

>>50990527
It's its own thing; works in antimagic. But the tech guide's a giant trap; it's cheaper and easier to use magic in antimagic than it is to use tech anywhere else.

>>50990424
How do you figure? In what way can slutting it up be used for Justice?

>>50990637
GM here, I just want to make sure I'm being plausibly consistent in the world, I don't actually have to worry about efficiency.

Thank you.

>>50990527
>Many technological items replicate specific spells or magical effects. However, they do not use magic in any way, and thus function normally in areas of antimagic or primal magic, and are otherwise unaffected by any effects that target or affect magic items.

However, there are also spells that specifically affect technological items.

>>50990653

Teaching the young people how to please a man or woman, or raising a depressed person's confidence! A gentle slut is exactly what a heartbroken man needs to get them back on the path of finding their true love.

>>50990653
You gotta reward your heroes for their hard work you know

>>50990636
DON'T be.
People not wanting to discuss things calmly leads to insular groups, discrimination, or worse yet an anti-intellectual wave of political maneuvering giving those who'd see you crushed the foothold they need to bring anyone that can understand when they fuck you over down.

People need much thicker skin; that "silken mittens, everything you do is totally good and okay" upbringing we saw appear in the late 90s is how we got trigglypuffs in every campus today trying to re-enact farenheit 451.

>>50990669
more like spells that completely fuck them up with ease one would never find acceptable against a magic item, but technically you're right.

>>50990697
It's also how we got people like Milo Whatever-the-fuck that think spouting whatever edgy bullshit they can makes them seem intelligent.

>>50990481
>portrayed as
Usually just because "the media" wants to seem kind and inclusive. Some might even say they're pushing some kind of agenda, but really, they just want to keep people watching so they can make money.

They don't have any attachments to ideology, they just want to keep butts planted in front of a screen.

>>50990739
Yup.

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>>50990695
I thought /pfg/ hated that kind of character

>>50990818

We love them, we just don't like people gushing over them in these threads.

I like sluts in my games, but playing with them and talking about them are different things!

>>50990818
>not wanting to be kept as the heroes pleasure girl
>not accepting you can't give him the political power he needs
>not tending to his wounds anyways, physical and emotional

>>50990854
>mfw our bard slit the rogue's throat when he asked her to fuck him as a reward for killing some bandits
was a funny day

>>50990689
But won't they just obsess over the slut instead? Sounds messy.

>>50990852
I'd like to gush over some sluts in my game

>>50990854
That's the idea, Anon

>>50990892

Not if she's good about it!

>>50991020

As would I, sadly sluts are pretty rare in the campaigns I'm in!

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>>50990872
How did that even happen? How was the rogue so weak?

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>>50986196

Dragon DM! Dragon DM!

Why are there Lamia Commoners in the Demesne?

>>50991100
she told him she'd come to his bed that night
slit his throat while he was asleep for the coup de grace

>>50991121
Dude fell asleep waiting for his hooker? That's fucking weak

>>50991121
y tho?

>>50991058
She'd have to change her appearance, or they'd obsess over her, especially if she was there in their time of great emotional pain.

>>50991108

Well the idea was that they'd be Lung children. You know Asian dragon human hybrids.

Though i think couple lamia families might be pretty cool to have around.

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>>50991058
Maybe somebody on /pfg/ should run a campaign filled with swordplay, brigands, and wholesome sluts.

>>50991100
He's a rogue.

Duh.

>>50991121
>not succeeding on the fort save against coup de grace

How sad.

>>50991230
>rogues
>succeeding on Fort or Will saves

oh im laffin

>>50991230
Most people don't unless they have some insane luck or bullshit high saves.

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>>50991262
>>50991230

>rogues succeeding on Fort saves vs the hardest fucking save in the whole game

They can't even escape getting toothy aberration BJs

>muffled gibbering intensifies

>>50991230
>DC 10+Damage Dealt
And it's a guaranteed crit. Assuming the bard has literally no boost to damage and is using a rapier it's still going to be a DC 17 on average. Add in Inspire Courage, a strength bonus, power attack, a magic weapon, and it's pretty easily pushing a DC 30.

>>50991208
Like RotJR?

>>50991354
How the fuck are you going to sneak up on a nigga with inspire courage up?

>>50991371
I hear RotJR talked about a lot in here, but being new to pfg, I have absolutely no idea what it is, aside from something about the Jade Regent.
Are any anons kind enough to elaborate?

>>50991411
Dancing, Mime? I dunno.

>>50991155
just the amount, I'm pretty sure, unless the DC explicitly says "10+ 1/2 caster level + stat" or the like.

If it's just level/class level it won't

>>50991411
Because he's asleep and you can use Perform (Dance).

>>50991371
I thought that was about Orientals and horsecocks.

Though, come to think of it, Tian-Xia is ripe for swordplay, brigands, and sluts.

>>50991208

>That pic
>Sassy doe-eyed witch with a quick wit and sharper tongue... And huge chest and hips that won't quit

Anon please, I'd waifu that in an instant.

>>50991430

Someone got it into their heads to run a gestalt game that starts with the first book of Rise of the Runelords (which establishes a few characters and places that reappear in Jade Regent) that then goes into Jade Regent proper. Also, apparently some degree of lewdness is permitted, which got some people very excited.

>>50991430
It's a campaign that's gotten crazy popular here in the past few months that it's been advertised. A rather high power game, with a lot of 3pp allowed, 25 pb, feat tax rules, etc. As for what the game itself is, it's the first book of Rise of the Runelords (Burnt Offerings) with a two year timeskip at the end, seguing into the entirety of Jade Regent.

>>50991452

>Horsecocks

What? None of the characters have horsecocks.

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>>50991449
It's strange because everything in the entry is effected by 'cleric level' and not 'caster level'. There's not even any channel feats that are effected by caster level.

The DC for this Will save is equal to 10 + 1/2 your cleric level + your Charisma modifier.

You can control any number of undead, so long as their total Hit Dice do not exceed your cleric level.

>>50991492
Oh, so that's where the endowment chart thing comes from.
Good to know, I guess.

>>50991504
So then caster level does nothing for either.
It's using class levels to avoid multiclassing and just getting ALL your class bonuses for, say, two more levels from just a simple trait.

>>50991502

every female is secretly a horsecock futa

>>50991556
E-even the 16 year old?

>>50985850
Before Pazio nerfed it for being "too good", the Glorious Heat feat was kinda cool for Druid/Oracle/FireDomainClerics.

>>50991556
The bookworm is definitely not one.

>>50985871
fuck you faggot

>>50987935
or a poor family can sell their 8 year old daughter so they can feed their 6 other children for the winter. Its fine if the 8 year old ends up dying from the complications of rape, because all of the children would have died without the money.

>>50988087
warpriest

>>50991556

The only potential horsecock futa is Bellenka!

>>50989585
lol, funny. But a bitch move still.

>>50991733
>not Onryou
forever pleb

Hey guys I'm working on updating some of my builds and maybe turning them into actual gui...

jesus christ

...why do you do this?

>>50991745
yeah i guess
i hate meme / referential characters and made this clear
this player didn't care and made totally-not-azula

Would anybody mind updating the MEGA trove? Thanks!

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>>50991778
For the same reason anyone does anything.

No good reason at all.

When does Reign of Winter take place?

>>50991825
ah, i can't help but feel azula wouldn't try to convince some cultist she was their leader until after she beat them up.

>Be making Calistrian Holy Woman for RotJR.
>Hekatonkheires || Pactmaker Ethumion
>Look at pactmaker secrets.
>Immortality is literally a class feature.

What the fuck, Pactmaker.

>>50989585
You sound like a sperg.

>>50991888
if he had done that she would have been fine
but she just walked in going HELLO I AM YOUR LEADER YOU ARE TO OBEY EVERYTHING I SAY

>>50991904
quite possibly

>>50991859
It was released in 2013, so 4013 AR?

>>50991859
Add 2700 to the publication date. Reign of Winter came out in 2013, so it takes place in 4713 AR.

>>50991924

That aint right

Hell Aroden died in 4606

>>50991778
Why do you feel the need to draw attention to yourself?

>>50991943
Yeah, he got it wrong. It's add 2700, not 2000.

>>50991933

Oh that's the metric behind it. Okay.

Dragon game takes place in the winter of 4736

I'm making an Admixture Evoker and there is nothing you can do to stop me.

>>50992026
No, but I sure can bully you!