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Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Pathfinder General /pfg/

So earlier, /pfg/ totally bullied and trolled a shy and unconfident GM into shutting down their game. Any other GMs want to step up and run this concept? The premise and the character creation rules can be tweaked as necessary.
http://pastebin.com/uWzNSVYd

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Legendary Kineticists II Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_w1o5dSef2tzu2GDLnJKElHY3uyETzuzFHDAjI6P6k/edit?usp=sharing

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>>50979876
>So earlier, /pfg/ totally bullied and trolled a shy and unconfident GM into shutting down their game. Any other GMs want to step up and run this concept? The premise and the character creation rules can be tweaked as necessary.

No
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>>50979805
>>50979831
>"1pp, Jolly, Forrest; no Leadership, Sacred Geometry, Blood Money, Simulacrum, or infinite/arbitrarily-high loops of any kind."

Ban full casters and the EX Turbo too and I'd be totally down for this game.
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>>50979527
Are you going to make it happen anon?
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Holy hell, I've been away for two hours, did you guys fill another thread with lewdposting alone?
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So. Orc-fu, Elf-fu, or Orc-Elf hybrid-fu? Which is best?

Why do we even call this Pathfinder anymore? This should be Magical Realm General.
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>>50979903
>EX Turbo

What's that?
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>>50979903
I genuinely don't understand.
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>>50979858

I liked the fact that all of the main characters were absurdly huge.

Jojos should be MASSIVE and BUFF, not twinkish and /fa/.
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>>50979927
I'm working on the page for it now, and I'll do my best, but that's all I can promise.
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TELL ME ABOUT A COUNTRY IN PATHFINDER

DESCRIBE IT TO ME LIKE I SHOULD WANT TO MAKE A CHARACTER FROM THERE
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>>50979949
It's okay anon, Araki grew out of that phase, I'm sure you can too.
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>>50979949

Nah, it was better that Araki's artstyle changed, because his characters started looking more distinct than "Same body and face, different hair".
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>>50979938
>>50979940
The EX Turbo is Forrest's most overpowered class yet. It's a spellburst savant.

>>50979960
Be sure to include lots of fey if you're doing the fey plot hook.
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>>50979933
I tried to save it, but as usual I failed.

>>50979963
OSIRION

IT IS ANCIENT EGYPT (OLD/MIDDLE KINGDOM SPECIFICALLY) BUT WITH THE CULTURAL LONGEVITY OF PRE-COMMUNIST POST-HAN CHINA AND THEN SOME

THEY EVEN HAVE THE ACTUAL EGYPTIAN GODS IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SING ABOUT THEIR POWER
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>>50979752
That may be, but the mind games and creativity of the powers got way better when the art style changed. I'd consider that a fair trade.
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I have like 15 different tabs open trying to work on character gen
This feels a lot more complicated than 5e, which I guess was expected. I think what's giving me trouble is all of the acronyms.
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What class would be best for an expy of Luna from Shadowverse?

Essentially, a necromancer who believes the spirits of her dead parents follow her around. To others, this is plausible due to her necromantic powers.

In truth, the spirits of her parents are just her own delusions.

The class should ideally have some method of conversing with spirits or other spiritual companion-like entities.

Shaman? Spiritualist? Shattered mind? Any class with a psicrystal that the character could claim to be a "soul gem"?
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>>50979984
I'd probably just limit it to official sources published in the books. Core, Ultimate Combat/Magic/etc, and so on.
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>>50979984
>>50979903
>EX Turbo
Basically she fucked up the math first time around, but some people LIKE fucked up math, so she went "Okay here's the high powered one, if you wanna play it with people who use Broken Blade and Primal Fury. For everyone else, here's the fixed one." Sorta like Unchained Summoner, the later one was nerfed, except she renamed the original the Ex Turbo to make it clear it was OP, rather than the non-indicative 'unchained'.
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>>50980013
Like what?
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>So earlier, /pfg/ totally bullied and trolled a shy and unconfident GM into shutting down their game. Any other GMs want to step up and run this concept? The premise and the character creation rules can be tweaked as necessary.

So fucked up.

I know I'm on the internet, and that's to be expected but holy shit. If you hate the concept so much then just ignore it, jeeze.

This is /pfg/ for Christ's sake. There's fucking anime faggotry everywhere, and you wanna bully someone over it?

Fluffy GM, if you're reading this please know I have respect for you for coming back to try again, and owning up to cancelling the game before.

People make mistakes, and it takes courage to admit them.

Hope you're okay.
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>>50979938
The regular spellburst savant is kinda ... flat, and best suited to normal-optimization pathfinder first party groups. It'll fit in well as a magus alternative in a team of rangers and paladins. The kind of class that sells on the paizo site well enough.

The Turbo version was actually the original spellburst savant version, which had 5e style super-cantrips with limited spellcasting, to be a more all-day offensive warlock type. It's meant to match up with high-optimiziation ceilings such as veterans with PoW or SoP characters, psion/wilder types, and so on.
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>>50980013
Quit complaining and get back to lewd generation.
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>>50980047

t. thirsty kemonomimi "IT'S NOT FURRY" lewdfag.
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>>50980019
Look at Soul Weaver from SoP, it's literally constantly followed around by spirits, and if it's a captured spirit of a specific creature they can talk to it freely.
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>>50980047
Don't encourage him.

He's just trying to troll all of us with his flakeyness.
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>>50980005

I CAN BE THE MORNING AND THE EVENING STAR? THE NILE MADE FLESH, BOUNDLESS VIRILITY HIDING VICIOUS CROCODILIAN DANGER?
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>>50980022
Well, if you're doing that hoping for balance, just give up. The most broken stuff remain the original core classes, and that's in both directions (a core-book-only-monk was about as bad as you could get after all, and the non-unchained rogue is basically a shittier version of every other character with trapfinding every).

This isn't a joke. Most of us are on here because the sheer scale and amount of material and optimization lets us spend hours crunching out characters when everyone else at work is only watching porn.
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>>50980067

I would rather not use Spheres of Power, but the suggestion is appreciated.

It is such a shame that the soul weaver is one of the more underwhelming high spherecasters.
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>>50980072
If this is still Gebrek's guy shilling, just go on F-list and have a wank. Calm down, dude.
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>>50980072
PROBABLY
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>>50980045
Gestalt, the tenatively allowed 3pp that isn't spheres of power, and a few other little things.
Just so I'm not doing something horribly wrong, PB is the point buy total, and WBL is wealth by level?
Also, what folder in the Mega is 'In the Company of Dragons' located?

>>50980058
I'm trying real hard fampai
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>>50980047
Second
It wasn't going to apply, but I gave honest feedback and shared genuine ideas to help.
It's a game. You're meant to have fun with others.
Have Fun.
It's really not that hard to ignore something you won't think is fun.
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>>50980070

He didn't flake, though.

Flaking is setting a date, acting like it's going down, then just not showing up.

He cancelled the game way before there were really any concepts nailed down.

It was a genuine attempt to run something that clearly some people around here would be interested.

He should grow thicker skin, but still man. I just want everyone to be nicer to eachother.
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>>50980089
>If this is still Gebrek's guy shilling, just go on F-list and have a wank.

I'm not that guy, honest! I'm just having some fun with neat country ideas, nothing lewd about it!
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>>50980022
>>50980077
Why not do 1pp only + Forrest + Jolly, no full casters or EX Turbo?

This gives people lots of options.

Allowing Path of War in its pre errata state is... really hard for a new GM to balance. Really, REALLY hard. Especially if the rest of the party is more low key tier 3s.
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>>50980111
>He cancelled the game way before there were really any concepts nailed down.

We call that "flaking" around here.
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>>50980026
>>50979903
You know, that's fair. Although not the banning of fullcasters, since sometimes it's fun to just be a Sorcerer and be the biggest Megumin rip-off in the world.
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>>50980117
how do you do a healer if full casters are banned?
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>>50980135
Bard, paladin, whatever.
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>>50980047
As the person who suggested they close, I am genuinely sorry if they were being sincere, but I also truly did feel there was too much evidence it was a troll at the time.

It wasn't any sort of personal grudge or dislike for the campaign setting.

I also firmly believe that the negative attention they would have gotten over two months if it stayed open would have been worse.
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>>50980135
The answer is "You don't," it's just not worth it.

I mean, even the vitalist, DSP's full manifester healer? It's STILL BETTER when it's a life leech/sadist instead of an actual healer.
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>>50980077
I'm not especially familiar with Pathfinder to begin with, so delving into homebrew is pretty much out of the question. Finding out that the worst offenders are in the core books doesn't inspire me with a great deal of confidence about the feasibility of such a game.
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Why is it so hard to find a game where I can roll dice, enjoy combat and then later get lewded? I've already run three lewd pathfinder games. I just wanna play one already!
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>>50980114
Shut my mouth, then.
Here's some cool shit.
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>>50980111
What ever happened to "be excellent to each other" man
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>>50980117
>Why not do 1pp only + Forrest + Jolly, no full casters or EX Turbo?

Because I have never run a game of Pathfinder before, and I have no idea what you just said (outside of EX Turbo, explained earlier in the thread).
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>>50980154
What about rolling dice and then getting lewded mid combat by enemy wolves
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>>50980173
Forrest and Jolly are specific third-party material authors. Full casters are casters who get up to 9th-level spells.
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>>50980188
I can deal with that at this point.
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>>50980173
What about just 1pp only, no full casters, no Blood Money/Sacred Geometry/Simulacrum?

I'd be cool with that, I totally would!
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>>50980128
Hm, anon's right, that's not flaking.
I've dealt with a lot of flakes, and "yeah, guys, this future game won't be happening" ain't flaking.

>yeah hey listen the bus is taking its sweet time because of all the traffic I'll be about half an hour late, just make sure you've got your characters ready
*when we can hear the login theme of motherfucking WoW and his microwave just dinged*
THAT'S flaking.
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>>50980165
As if there was ever any hope of that.
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>>50980191
See: >>50980152
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>>50980188
Go on.

>>50980200
Personally, I'd want some PoW even if just the archetypes to make 1pp martials less boring.
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One of my players was brutally pulverized to death by an Ogre's greatclub during a torrential downpour and his nearly dead friend killed the beast to avenge him.

What was the most recent death in your game like?
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>>50980230
PoW is really, reeeeeeeally hard for a totally new GM to balance combat for.

Especially before the errata.
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>>50980200
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>>50980246
Where is the errata?
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>>50980240
None of us have actually died.

Only one fight has ended without me having to be healed up from the negatives.

Watch it turn out to be someone else who bites it first.
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>>50980152
look, I know hearing "well if you don't like it go play something else" sounds pretty childish, but take it as an honest piece of GOOD advice.

Pathfinder isn't a good game.
Many games are good games.
Pathfinder's not one of them.
We're mostly here because everyone else we know only plays it because everyone else they know only plays it, or because we're simply THAT assburgered.

Have you considered other systems? 5e's got its problems but it's not all that busted, Unchained Heroes is pretty cool, Rolemaster's a lot better than some people give it credit for, The Dark Eye is quite good, Iron Kingdoms RPG is great fun too, hell you might even enjoy Pendragon?
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>>50980290
Run Chuubo's with maximum comfy!
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>>50980240
Magus flew back into an enemy army 'cause she was hoping taking out the rune-engraved commander might disrupt his forces.

It didn't. Last she ever saw was gelugons converging from literally every direction.

>And that's how I learned not to go straight into casters directly after having played a barbarian for years.
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>>50980019
Hmmm, this is pretty interesting. I think I'll be using this as my next character concept if I find a game...

>>50980047
>>50980070
>>50980107
>>50980111
>>50980148
I'm still here. I'm so sorry. It was a bad and stupid idea to make that listing so early just because other games did. I'll be sure to make a listing only when I'm totally sure I can run a game soon.
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Well my Atomic Adept nuclear dragon concept got shot down with no real explanation why. Maybe a Dragon motif Henshin Hero instead? Make the transformation like an enchanted scale of Mama Dragon? Be some sort of Draco-cop perhaps.
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>>50980290
>>50980304
Run Golden Sky Stories for /pfg/!

Run Fellowship PbtA!

Both are nice, good, and comfy!
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>>50980101
In the Company of Dragons is in the Rite Publishing folder.
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>>50980240

I got killed by an ambush in the local tavern from some PoW using assassin. The DM had apparently been noticing my "unsinkable" nature and vowed to take me down at least once during the campaign.

He didn't expect me to actually *die* from the encounter, so while he insisted I could still be saved I declared my character was dead, dead, dead. Poor guy just wanted some excitement in his position, but I felt like twisting that dagger and boy oh boy did I make him squirm.
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>>50980240
No deaths (it's a light-hearted game) but one of the characters was knocked unconscious and had their hip dislodged by minotaur last session.
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>>50980240
My druid was executed by elven cultists. Shot in the back of the head with an arrow at point blank range.
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>>50980342
Thankee
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>>50980290
This anon speaks the truth.
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>>50980323
probably because you expressed having no interest in not protecting the party.

that's like saying "well I don't care if they eat my fireballs, they can just buy fire fire immunity"

-which you flat out state, except 'poison' rather than 'fire'.

Most of your pitch was also "I won't have to worry about any of this because I'll take immunity to the drawbacks" too.
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>>50980355
Sounds light-hearted and lewd.
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>>50980240

Before it was cancelled, our last game saw us running afoul of a Deep One cult. Our cleric was torn apart by a horde vicious hybrids after we discovered their deception-probably better that he died then rather than get taken alive by those monsters. Our skald nearly suffered an even more horrible fate, but we managed to recover her before anything too awful could happen.
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>>50980290
This! Break the cycle! And maybe save one or two of us as well!
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>>50980398
This sounds about right.
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>>50980355
>minotaur
>hip dislodged

O-oh my...
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>>50980240
Oh boy.

My character has been ganked by an animated/undead scythe into the negs.
Swarmed by and downed by wights (but saved by hero points).
Downed and dragged off to be dissected later, only to be brought back by a potion. Then pulled a crazy, yet successful, acrobatic leap to land back in front of their captor. Finally dropped the surprised alchemist with an attack of opportunity as he went to drink a potion of invisibility.

That's all the near-death experiences
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Sounds like people wanna play a D&D 5e game. Any takers?

Text, No lewds, no weebs, no comfiness. If people are interested, I'll post contact info.
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>>50980444
>>50980403

Why are minotaurs the go-to "large insertion" race when we've got stuff like centaurs and giants?
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>>50980455
Could be. What's warlocking like nowadays?
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>>50980290
Just saying DM-kun, if you want to switch over to the much more learner-friendly 5e, I can teach
-t. setting anon
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>>50980463
Centaurs too awkward, giants tend to be too big for non-lethal "large insertion". Sweet spot is a creature around 8-10 feet tall, not 20+.
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>>50980455
>no lewd
>no weeb
>no comfy
kys
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>>50980463
Because they're big, but not hugely so like giant, and still humanoid, unlike centaurs.

You can get the same result from a 7'-8' tall werewolf.
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>>50980474
not enough people use giant lamias

A true shame
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>>50980472
you're responding to the wrong guy.
try hitting on the right people, it works a lot better!
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>>50980508
I meant to double link but forgot because I'm distracted

>>50980472
>>50980152
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>>50980488
That and because their head is an animal, they basically get to do this guilt-free.

>No see I'm not a slut, I was forced by a monster, there's nothing I can do. I'm ESPECIALLY not cheating on my boyfriend since I'm forced to by this animal.
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>>50980488
>werewolf

Yes, please.
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Is it bad that I find Chimney Sweep to be a fun and interesting class?
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>>50980464

You know less spells and cast far less spells than other primary casters, and your spells are a little more specialized, but ALL YOUR SLOTS are maximum level slots, so you're going full bore every time you cast a spell, and recover them all after any rest.

You get pact gifts that give you edge benefits and gain spell-like abilities that are better than cantrips and can be used at-will every now and then.
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>>50980165
>>50980220

I mess up when I'm upset, and this is a moment where something on the internet made me super mad. In b4 "you mean like always?" and such.

I just want to gather all of those fucking bullies up and force them to go through an entire Hayao Miyazaki movie inspired journey where through great adversity and suspenseful hijinks they learn to be just a little bit less shitty.

There would be a big friendly serpentine dragon who offers them a ride across the acid lake, but they call him a faggot so he dejectedly flies away. Then they would shitpost and troll eachother for many days, scaring away the few people who offer them help with crossing the acid lake. When they're about to starve to death, a little kitsune grandma approaches them and offers them grandma candy that turns out to be so fucking good and magically nutritious. She's a little grandma, so she can't take them across. So she brings them back to her little grandma cottage and makes them do chores. During their stay, the people that they bullied eventually show up one after another, and little grandma kitsune makes the bullies apologize to each one of them.

In the end, all of the bully victims help the bullies cross the acid lake so they can return home. Once on the other side, they try to keep up the facade with a shaky and stuttering "K-kek thanks for nothing! B-bye, f-faggotss!" The bullies break down and start crying Miyazaki crocodile tears and then they hug their new anime friends goodbye.

Also the Kitsune grandma was secretly some kind of nature spirit or whatever, we care about the enviornment.

The End!
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>>50980455
Why 5e? Why not Fate or Fellowship or Golden Sky Stories?

Why no weebs and no comfiness?
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>>50980537

Congratulations, we've found the most pathetic poster in this thread. and it's you!
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>>50980240
Everyone died to Babaus sent through a portal by a half-demon after we broke a shiny rock!

Then we all got possessed by heroes of old, kicked the shit out of the babaus, and learned we all now effectively had a second character.
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>>50980536
>What anon did not tell you though is that you won't have as many max level slots as other casters until your third short-rest of the day, most parties only do two (lunch and supper or the like), and highest-1 and highest-2 slots are pretty fucking useful too.

That and if you want to actually do good damage your warlock hex uses one of your two slots for every rest, and it's a concentration spell at that.
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>>50980312
That's fine.
In the end you did convince someone you were sincere about making the game.

Hope you have the time to run that game in the future Fluff anon.
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>>50980333
Whatever happened to the Ryuutama game that started the /pfg/ IRC anyway?
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>>50980483
fuck off, stop shoving your dick down everyone else's throats
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>>50980398
I literally pointed out that I wouldn't be casting most of the time, so meltdown and irradiating the rest of the party wouldn't be happening. Nuclear Strike when not made an AoE affects no one but myself and the target, and so any situation that requires precision because of other things in the way (like party members) I can use that instead. I even fucking pointed out that once we get to a level where rads on the party may be an issue I will be able to cast spells to soak it from others (I was wrong, can do it at level 5 because of, again ALCHEMIST). And investing a whole 10 levels just to be immune to rads is "too much"? I could have just worn a fucking Periapt of Proof against Poison or Gamboge Nodule Ioun Stone and spent those levels on something useful instead of something that fits flavor-wise while also having synergy with the other half of the gestalt. If you're going to allow silly shit like Gonzo 2 don't fucking back out on it like a goddamn pussy because you read more maliciousness in the post than there actually was.
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>>50980464
2 or 3 levels gets you agonizing blast, and then you switch to either fighter or sorcerer or something to actually get spells and drive your power much higher.
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Does anybody else think it'd be interesting to play a RotJR character with Childhood Crush, and then *not* pursue the designated NPC?

It'd be an interesting character arc, I think, to grow beyond a youthful crush, and remain friends, maybe play Cyrano for another PC, while I focus on my career and maybe realize I'm falling for someone else.
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>>50980587
I'm not the DM, I'm just reading through the conversation between the two of you in there? I haven't even filled out my application yet.
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>>50980537
>implying that would work
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>>50980472
Maybe, but it's not the game of choice for folks around here, and even though I'm a novice, I know Pathfinder better than I know 5e. I'm not opposed to the idea though, just worried that it wouldn't have the same (type/quantity) playerbase as what's available here.

>>50980290
Having to vet character concepts first, and sheets later is something that was always going to have to happen. I'm comfortable with doing that, but I'm really shocked to learn that the only way to make it possible is to use third-party materials I know nothing about. Using jargon with a novice just makes things even more confusing.
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>>50980605
Noble goal.
Shame /pfg/ will only know you as "that cuck who got cucked because he was a cucking cuck."
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>>50980605
That would be cute.
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>>50980632
can you make a roll20 or a discord or something so I can stay attached to this as you continue your decision making?
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>>50980660
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1897993/forging-the-caravan-road
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On the topic of 5e vs. Pathfinder, is this accurate?
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>>50980683
>https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1897993/forging-the-caravan-road
how about a link that works
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>>50980696
Is it a problem if I want a bit of both?
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>>50980699
https://app.roll20.net/join/1897993/JVpCwQ
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>>50980696
/5eg/ actually gets to have OP's made by more than one person, and has no memes of its own.

They will see in time.

No one is safe. What you see here is but a vision of your future.
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>>50980709
like that?
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>>50980696
No, your assumption is that this is the thread for Pathfinder. This is Lewd Fantasy General, in which we happen to use Pathfinder as a guise so the mods won't delete our threads.
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>>50980731
I can get behind this.
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>>50980632
Pathfinder's mechanics are all sorts of fucked up. We encounter new and interesting potholes every day; it's like the streets of Montreal.

Some first party classes are ONLY functional with third-party support (Kineticist tops that list), or WERE until very recently (fighter before the armor and weapon master handbooks, rogues before unchained).

There's good and bad everywhere of course, but the worst offenders are the original core book, and the games are usually much less dysfunctional with the 'third/fourth' tier type characters: mostly gishes and special classes like the alchemists, paladins, bards/rubatos.

Much of the third party stuff we usually talk about on here is in that life-sustaining sweet-spot.
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>>50980699
>>50980724
1pp only, ban fullcasters and Blood Money/Sacred Geometry/Simulacrum, please.
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>>50980764
3pp only is the best way to a balanced game.
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>>50980788
>Path of War pre errata
Enjoy your Steel Flurry Strike+Reflected Blade Style from a half-giant/dreige in Primal Warrior Stance.
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How exactly does the half elf's multitalented racial feature interact with gestalt games?
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>>50980797
Where is the errata?
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>>50980745
That makes sense to me. I'm willing to put the time and effort into learning what's necessary to make it work, but it'd be easier with a group who knows what they're doing (even if the intent is to build more easily managed characters).

>>50980764
Suggestion noted, but not understood.
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>>50980824
Are you still trying to do that general pitch of "The local merchant lords have launched a campaign to create a safe trade route through the underdark to bypass a mountain range. They need explorers to map it out, and help the engineers make it safe. Problem is there's actually a Fae Forest in that section." ?
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>>50980816
Ask Keledrath.
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>>50980797
Yes, because everyone who plays PoW does that, just like every wizard goes for God Wizard and every druid goes for Tyrannosaurus Spellcasting.
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>>50980312
>It was a bad and stupid idea to make that listing so early just because other games did.

Don't beat yourself up too hard, Fluffy. 2-4 weeks out is a good spot to put the thing up, IMO. I'll be eagerly awaiting your offering.
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>>50980904
>It was a bad and stupid idea to make that listing so early just because other games did

I know your pain FluffGm.
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>>50980281
I'm telling you, Byron is toast soon
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Quick--in 10 seconds, tell me what your character's most charming physical feature is.

Can't be boobs or dong.
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>>50980845
Who?
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>>50980987
The little beauty mark just above her left dimple.
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>>50980987
His wings are sharp yet nearly diaphanous
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>>50980987
His metal forearm that he uses to conduct prostate examinations on the good bandits of the realm.
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>>50980987
Her gleeful bullying smile.
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>>50980987
The shadows under her eyes are pretty cute when she's sleepy!
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>>50980724
I've decided not to run this game. As much as I'd like to do something based on the concept originally put forth, there's just too many uncertainties at the moment.
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>>50981087

Get your shit together and make up your fucking mind, you autist. Despite what your anime doujins might have told you, waffling and wasting people's time is not cute, it's annoying.
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>>50981087
>>50981104
t. Fluffy GM, shit GM of the month.
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>>50980983
I'd buy that, honestly.
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>>50981087
you fucking faggot
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>>50981168

Please be the trap player. I need that little bit of delicious irony in my life.
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>>50980987
A tough call, really. She's got a face one may want to cup with both hands and squish her cheeks while also having a pair of amber stone eyes that some might find hard to look away. Either scenario would likely annoy her though.

Anyhoo, trying to shake off this holiday hangover with something dumb; last level Elsbeth recently learned Form of the Dragon 1 and why not warm things up with a dumb design idea? Yeah, she'll more than likely simply take the shape of a feral dragon in-game and rendering this moot, but fug it. Let's have a little bit of fun.
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>>50981242
Thumbs up from me.
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>>50981241

If it was, I'd be sad. He seemed helpful and I'd still totally be down for running *something*, it's just that the original thing was nowhere near ready and people were already asking for setting information that I didn't have yet.
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MOTHERFUCKING COCKGARGLING CUNTSUCKERS
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>>50981293

You also made the mistake of hijacking a thread start to advertise your game and ONLY your game.

Bad move, autist.
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>>50980987
Toss-up between his abs and his large, expressive eyes.
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>>50981242
You know, I think it's a bit weird to consider Elsbeth with draconic features. She seems too ubiquitously "elf" to have them, you know?
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>>50981320
Hijacking what? Someone replied to one of my posts in the prior thread, and I responded. I said I was working on it, the question of whether to use Pathfinder or 5e arose, and >>50980660
asked for the link.

At no point was there a ready made game to waffle on, the page got deleted because people were joining up under the impression that it was ready to go, and it wasn't.
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I'm playing in a P6 game and my character is joining the group at level 6. There's no arcane people in the group, so I was thinking of being an Arcanist for MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY.

Given that it's P6 and capped at 6, should I take a Blood Arcanist archetype for the fun extra powers? Or just go regular Arcanist and take wacky Exploits? I already got the OK from the GM to use Sacred Geometry to cover my Metamagic needs.
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>>50980987
I don't think I've ever made a character with charming physical features. I think my char creation fluff routine is entirely flaw-driven, come to think of it, even personality. Never realized.

They just wind up charming sometimes in the way that flawed things can be, I guess.
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>>50981412
>Sacred Geometry

Kill yourself.
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>>50980987
Don't know about charming, but her most striking feature is purple eyes that glow when channeling magic, or when she gets pissed.
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>>50981448
do they glow polkadot panties onto a nearby wall or something or is it the typical mary-sue description stuff?
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>>50980806
Depends entirely on the DM, as gestalt isn't a Pathfinder rule so they're already doing houserule stuff, so it's something that they should have already considered.
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>>50981444
Can do!
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>>50980087
>It is such a shame that the soul weaver is one of the more underwhelming high spherecasters.
How so?
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Teach me to Occultist.
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>>50981474
Alrighty then, thankee for the response
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>>50981471
Cliches are cliches for a reason. Also somethingsomethingDarkTapestryOracle.
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>>50981495
Incanter, fey adept.
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>>50981512
What do you want to do as an Occultist? They're quite open-ended. Do you want to be melee-combat, utility-mage, or specialist (summoner, blaster, necromancer)?
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>>50981512
Make a skeleton.
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>>50981541
Incanter's strong as a dip but boring as fuck, I'll give you Fey Adept though.
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>>50980806
According to the GM's old thread on rules, I think his ruling was that you choose one favored class for each side of your Gestalt, but then a third if you're a half-elf. Might want to ask in the new RotJR rules clarification thread to be sure.
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>Creation Handbook playtest
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#

>Transformative Curse (Magic)
>You either blessed or cursed with an uncontrollable transformation. Choose one common material (ex; water, iron, or daylight) which when exposed to causes you to transform into a specific form of the same species and opposite sex. You always take this specific form when exposed to the material and it is the other sex in all respects. This also grants a +10 bonus to disguise checks to hide your identity. This is a polymorph effect that automatically overrides any existing polymorph effect.

>When exposed to a related but uncommon variation of that material (ex; hot water, cold iron, full moon light), chosen when this trait is taken, you revert to your natural form, overriding all other polymorph effects.

Oh god oh god oh god, could it really be?
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>>50981550
Battle Host seems interesting...

So I guess Melee?
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>>50981567
>that pic
Goddamnit boner, that's one spilled cup of hot cocoa away from being a dude! Calm the fuck down!
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>>50981567
It is it is indeed a reference to Ranma.
>Source: One of the SoP Handbook writers that comes here often
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>>50981560
RotJR is?
This is the PF ultra newfag, incase it wasn't obvious.
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>>50981567
>it's an actual literal Jusenkyo curse

Never thought I'd see the day.
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>>50981550
Someone else here, but tell me of Necromancy.
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In Dreamscarred's Monster Classes: True Dragon, why does the feat to gain humanoid shape give a different ability than the actual change shape ability, but only if you don't already have change shape (and if you do it just gives you +1/day use of change shape)? It's silly and inconsistent.
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>>50981567
>daylight
>you walk under a bridge
>switch again when you hit the light
>someone opens the blinds
>you take the subway
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>>50981293
You're a faggot for nuking the one coherent method of communication about the game outside of this anonymous, piss sea of trolls that is called 4chan.

And you nuked it because one fag admitted he didn't know what the deal was and was just trying to jam himself into a game like a friendless loser.
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https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4399356/character-applications

What would your ideal party of 6 Molthune knights be?
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How do I go about building a Guru? I don't see any decent Veils they get to build around aside from Spear of Light and Forcestrike Knuckles.
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>>50981686

There's nothing stopping you from PMing me on Roll20 to talk about it.
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I know I'm way too early for Starfinder, but can /pfg/ look over my proposal anyways? I think it would be cool to play as a Fighter Ship or a living Mecha.
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>>50981606
Oh, Rise of the Jade Regent is a gestalt game, so that's the ruling from that one's GM.

Don't know about other GMs' opinions on it.
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>>50981795
What mechanical information do we even have about Starfinder, anyway?
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Can somebody post chapter 1 and 4 of Strange Aeons. They're missing from the trove.
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>>50981797
Thank you again for the response.
I asked in the character creation rules thread on dragongame, to see what the ruling is.
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>>50981795
>crystal-like

See, I'd say to make them a bit more Transformers-like. Half-Construct still fits that, because you can borrow the Transformers idea of having a Spark/soul that's the 'living' essence, along with having complex systems that emulate life.

This also allows you to slot in an ability to make a Medium-size humanoid "drone" that can be used for some social stuff. (Say, make it work like Spectral Hand - you lose X hp while the drone is active and get them back if it returns to you but not if it's destroyed.)

BUT. The biggest factor: don't use race points! They suck! Just make a custom race and try to balance it against an existing one.

Though, honestly, "living mecha" might work better using the approach in DSP's Monster Classes, where you have a "starting race" version that's just the basics (in this case, maybe warforged-like with some weird touches), and then a racial paragon class that advances race-specific stuff including things like size.
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>>50981811
We know what the classes are, we know a few of the races, we know a little about ship combat. Aside from that, nothing.
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>>50981774
>delete game
>delete's discussion forum
>delete's the only place with a link to your name
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>>50981849
Why is he buffing her butt.
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>>50980240
Our wizard ran past 4 zombies to climb a rope, all 4 of the AoO missed and he failed the DC 5 climb check. Zombies turn was right after him and they tore him to shreds right in front of our witch.

I wish the zombies would have eaten the witch instead. He's our group's That Guy. Who the fuck claims to be an rpg expert and doesn't carry rope? Especially when we're attacking a fort and we need to climb over the walls?
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>>50981849
I'm okay with either, it's just that it looks like Starfinder will already do that. If you can just add the Large Template to them, I'll take it.

I'm just looking forward to being able to play as the Scout Ship/ Fighter.
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>>50981858
Presumably because everywhere else was already buffed.
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>>50981858
So there's less friction when they're getting busy.
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>>50981854
I'll just PM you then.
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>>50981622
Necromancy Occultists have a strength that no other necromancer has: they don't need a body to create undead, nor do they need to worry about skirting the alignment line regarding the [Evil] tag on Animate Dead. Their main Focus Power can create an immediate, disposable, useful minion with which to use as they see fit, gaining in power with every few levels, alongside the power to cast standard necromancy spells. It's effectively 5 spells in one over the course of your career, as it constantly upgrades and improves to stay relevant and useful (although admittedly not as much as Conjuration's Servitor does, but then again what can have the utility of Summon Monster).
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>>50981795
Heteropoly Acids would be far more likely to sprout life - especially high-metallic-content life capable of handling insane conditions, than silicon, which doesn't do all that well with complex chains.
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>>50981686
hey cmon man I've got friends :^(
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>>50981938
Thanks, I've learned something today.

>All those elements it bonds with
While Tungsten caught my eye quickly, looking up Vanadium is worth it. I could use it with what >>50981849 since it has a history with them, but I also like the fact that it has different colors depending on oxidation. Making the character change color depending on planet visited might be neat.
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Okay folks I got bored and decided to make a race of things for a homebrew setting.

Give the following a lookover. This is unrelated to Silicoid Mechanon.

The gist of it is: a bunch of priests of an ancient empire wanted to save the citizens. They got together and performed an ancient ritual, trapping the souls of millions in a massive, mountain range-sized hunk of iron deep below the earth. Thousands of years later, shards of this iron chunk have risen to the surface and taken on human form.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LZldGlHu0p6JorqqwnzadMyHx874TVfzXTH6kOEjcRo/edit?usp=sharing
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Hey is there a way I could PM someone for that no longer running game? I'd like to do some setting work or quest design for it if someone wanted to chat. I have honestly been wanting to play a lighter paced game for a while and I figure a lewd PF game would be fun. I also like setting design so I'm happy to discuss. I kinda came in late to the party so I'm behind on what's going on.
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>>50982056

Post your Roll20 profile and they'll probably get in touch with you.
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>>50979876
Why is it that this thread and system are so attractive to autistics interested in optimization, "theorycrafting", and "system breaking"?

Is DnD itself attractive to these people or is it just one of those lowest common denominstor things?
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>>50982133
Because that's pretty much all the fun you'll get out of PF.
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>>50982023
The lore seems fine, but I'd like to know more about their Empire. If it was powerful enough to do that, it better show itself in the campaign.

While a bit higher on the Race Points, it doesn't seem too bad.
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>>50981661
>She wants the Scimitar
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>>50982067
Alright man, Thegn Belisarius on Roll20. I'm happy to be doing some stuff from the design or player end, just wanna participate.
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>>50982133
what *else* is anyone going to do with pathfinder?
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>>50982133
The game actively punishes not going the most optimal route.
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>>50982150

The thing is, the Empire is destroyed. Gone, kaput. It does not exist. Literally, it was ERASED. The only remnants of it are the Tieflings and the Ironbodied Folk. There's a gulf of nearly TEN THOUSAND YEARS between the death of the Empire and a prospective campaign with this race in it.

The Empire, anyways, was composed of humans and human supremacists who didn't like the various other races that inhabited the world. They had a caste system, but knew enough about meritocracy to see the benefit of promoting the lower castes to higher positions. There was psychic and divine magic, but nothing like arcane (i.e all magic was rituals and faith, y'know). They weren't big fans of those /filthy/ ratfolk and skinwalkers and others. So they opted to keep the population of these other races down, in order to have the most room for themselves.
Unfortunately, a VERY BAD THING happened, which ended up killing EVERY SINGLE HUMAN. Like, ever. But not really.

About a few hundred thousand were converted into Ironbodied Folk by the priestly caste. The unscrupulous nobility and upper-caste merchants made deals with otherworldly devils in order to escape the VERY BAD THING, becoming Tieflings as they spent their time in the realm of the devils, but that's a topic for another time.
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>>50982133
Because most of those people people assume that everything is run entirely rules-as-written, with, instead of a GM, an AI that directs all monsters according to programming.

As such, they gravitate to a rules-heavy system with exploits they can put to use, and try to make something broken, because in their minds, that's the only way to play.

This then influences people who don't particularly care for Pathfinder--even those who wouldn't dislike it otherwise--and they come to view it as only played by people who are autistic, winning-obsessed fucksticks.
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>>50982205
So I'm guessing the VERY BAD THING is back at it?

IBF seem fine, so go ahead and offer them to the players. Though I suggest you think about a group that wants to restart the old Empire
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>>50982270
I'm leaving the VERY BAD THING up to interpretation (disease? aliens? liberal social values? smoking?), but as it stands, it does not affect the world of the homebrew campaign today.

Thanks for the input. I'll probably make a couple of FCBs for Ironbodied Folk when I get up in the morning. I'm thinking of the standard Fighter/Ranger/SmashyFacer-classes that would get FCBs, and then an FCB: All in case those weren't appropriate.

In fact, question. Is an FCB: All for 1/4th a point of DR/Adamantine decent?
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>>50980240
Most recent death in our campaign was the monk, who was under the effects of a geas and was stuck murdering townsfolk. the party was preoccupied escaping the town (some were also under the geas) so a sympathetic questgiver tried to save the monk. Didn't work. Questgiver's friend saw her buddy get killed by the monk, and put her below zero.

She was morally against killing and couldn't live with what she'd done, so she refused any aid and died as the town burned.
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>>50982227
I don't just view it that way, I've had exposure directly to this type of player before. I ran a non-PF/D&D game that was heavily advertised as being focused on more narrative elements and playing loose with the rules that were present, and this fucking guy comes in and just "system breaks" shit to get the most powerful character possible, constantly undercutting my judgement as GM, and encouraging other players to behave in the same way - now that case was the most extreme instance but it seems to me that this game is legitimately a breeding grounds for cancerous autism.

It's such a shame because I see so many of /pfg/'s posters seem to be invested in cool scenarios, characters, and ideas, but then it's all totally and completely wasted on Pathfinder.

I guess that /tg/ yarn about D&D inflicting something akin to brain damage on its victims is true. Feels bad, such a pathetic situation.
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>>50982304
I don't have too much experience with it, so I can't say. It is midnight Plus in the US, you might try asking again in 8-12 hours.
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>>50982326
>it's all totally and completely wasted on Pathfinder.
Well the nice thing about Pathfinder, in my opinion, is that the system's content bloat allows practically any concept to work as a character mechanically without extreme amounts of refluffing, handwaving, or fiat.

If you aren't worried about optimization, which I believe a quiet majority of /pfg/ is, and I know a great majority of the playerbase as a whole is, then it's a great system to express creative character ideas mechanically as well as in a narrative.
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>>50981917
But an unupgraded skeleton or zombie is terrible.
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>>50982376
If most of /pfg/ admits that Pathfinder is bad and says they want to play other RPGs instead, then how come nobody is interested when someone offers to run another RPG for /pfg/?
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>>50982376
>express creative character ideas mechanically
Nah, maybe it's somewhat decent at letting you express different killing machines mechanically (noooot reeeeally though) but the horrible skill system+d20+class/level progression+class/race/alignment characters+murderpoints really fucks with fun character ideas that -don't- have to do with killing.

Half of me wishes that they would play a less awful game, and the other half warns me what letting them out of containment is like for everyone else who now has to deal with them in their games.

If only there was like an RPG lobotomy or something.
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>>50982427
I wish all of /pfg/'s Roll20s were in other systems instead. I would gladly play them.

But few systems apart from Pathfinder have as weeb a fanbase as /pfg/.
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>>50982440
I was going to say 'Anima is just as weeb as PF', but then I remembered that we were talking about games with fanbases.
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>>50982440
>all the cute 2d girl players locked up in /pfg/
That's the biggest shame by far.
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>>50979963
CHELIAX

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT LAW? REDUNDANT QUESTION, YOU LOVE LAWFUL ALIGNMENTS, UNLESS YOU'RE SOME FUCKING GOODY-TWO-SHOES WHO THINKS THAT THE UTTER COLLAPSE OF SOCIETY IS WORTH IT AS LONG AS YOU GET TO WORSHIP PUSSY GODS THAT LOOK ALL PRETTY.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT RACIAL PURITY? YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING HALFLING, ARE YOU?

MOTHERFUCKER, MOST OF OUR COPS ARE HELLKNIGHTS. HELLKNIGHTS, YOU FUCK.

ALL WILL LIVE UNDER ONE BANNER, AND THAT BANNER IS THE EMPIRE OF PROGRESS AND SURVIVAL.

WE'RE LITERALLY A FUNCTIONAL* VERSION OF LATVARIA

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE INQUISITION? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

CULL ALL STRIX MALES. IMPREGNATE ALL STRIX FEMALES.
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>>50982520

Dude, I think you need to Chel-ax
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>>50979876
If you're here, please check your roll20 inbox.
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>>50982618
I'm completely calm. Now get on the giant spike.
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How you determine how busty and buxom is your female character in RotJR?
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>>50982735
There was something with the average of STR, DEX, CON, and CHA, but I don't remember what it was called.
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>>50982735
You can always just choose
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>>50979876

I've picked up the fluffy tail First World game. I have GMing experience but none with Roll20, but I'll learn fast enough.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

Applications close on the 29th, and I'll choose four on the 30th.

The original GM is welcome to join.
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ways to kill a barbarian with superstition using cleric spells at level 8
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>>50983089
Anybody got the PDF for the First World book?
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>>50980345
Eh, probably the right way to do it. Fuck that DM.
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>it's another episode of "player makes a character themed around a silly concept and then is salty when it's not good and annoys the group"
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>>50978221 #
The character is half-elven, so his skin tone takes after his human Andoran (Chelaxian) father, but the necklace is the only thing he has from the mother he never knew, so he's kept it all his life.
I was just curious how likely it would be for folks to notice it and know what it means, because he has no idea. Just a simple man that praises the Inheritor everyday, not a student of obscure Mwangi history.
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>>50979937
Orcs need to be killed, so Elf-fu wins by default
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>>50983547
Are you and 2hu the only half-elves?
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>>50979963
Numeria

Giant robot spiders and metal men vs Conan the Barbarian vs wasteland raider scum.
Also, artificial qts.
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>>50980463
Because the Bull is a potent symbol with sexual undertones.
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>>50980987
His brilliant green eyes or his lean, athletic physique.
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>>50979963

TALDOR

YOU THINK YOUR COUNTRY IS COOL? IF YOU ARE NOT FROM TALDOR, YOUR COUNTRY IS SHIT. YOUR HISTORY ARE SHIT. YOUR MILITARY IS SHIT, YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM IS SHIT AND YOUR MUSIC IS SHIT. THIS IS NOT INSULT, MERELY FACT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT LONGER AND BETTER.

WE ARE THE DESCENDENTS OF THE AZLANTI. WE BROUGHT CIVILIZATION AND TRADE TO THE INNER SEAS. WE STOPPED THE KELESHITE HORDES,WE BEAT BACK THE THRONGS OF THE WHISPERING TYRANT. THE GODS FAVOR US. ARODEN WAS OUR PATRON FIRST, AND TWO OF THE ASCENDED ARE OF TALDAN BLOOD. FOR ALL THE QADIRAN INTRIGUES AND CHELISH TREASON, TALDOR ENDURES.

NO MONARCHY IS AS ILLUSTRIOUS AS OURS.NO NOBILITY AS CUNNING AND RESOURCEFUL. NO ARMY AS SEASONED AND WIDE-RANGING.

AND IF WE COULD ONLY UNITE THEM ALL TO ONE PURPOSE, THE WORLD WOULD TREMBLE.

ONE DAY, WE WILL.

(BASICALLY, A DECADENT MIX OF BYZANTIUM AND LATE MEDIEVAL SPAIN THAT STILL HAS AN EGO AND JUST ENOUGH MILITARY POWER TO NOT BE MESSED WITH)

>>50982425
Personally, I think most people actually like PF enough on some level, but complain because either a) it's the cool thing to do and no one wants to look like a newb or b) they get annoyed by certain bits in the system, but not enough to ditch it altogether.
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>>50982520
>IMPREGNATE ALL STRIX FEMALES

Where do I sign up?
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>>50983557
I don't know who that is. I found myself with a half-elf concept after I thought up his mother, but realized that I didn't want to play as her right now, so I went with the child she abandoned instead.
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>>50983718
Looking at my Slayer build, and I'm wondering: Is it better to go Two-Handed STR, or Two-Weapon STR? Are they close enough not to matter, because I'll make a flavor choice in a heartbeat.
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>>50982735
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>>50983779
Two-weapon STR also requires a huge amount of DEx to get all the feats you'll need eventually, so unless you're going finesse two-handed usually wins out without shenanigans.
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>>50983864
And what does this give you? Difference between underbust and bust?
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>>50983865
Slayer can use talents to take ranger combat style feats without needing to meet the prereqs.
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>>50983864
>numbers with nothing indicating what they are.

CCs? kilos? What?
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>>50983779

I think they are close enough. You can take the ranger TWF style feats so you ignore prerequisites, and TWF relies on additional damage modifiers which you have with studied strike and sneak attack. Two-handed is a powerhouse as usual.

You can also go TWF with a sword and shield combo, it is marginally more feat-intensive but still viable.
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>>50983881
The way it's worded makes it sound like you can only take Ranger Combst Style three times, but you'd need four to get the three two weapon feats and double slice. Otherwise, you'll need 15 DEX to pick one of those up vanilla.
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>>50983958
I don't know, saying "He can choose feats from his selected combat style, even if he does not have the normal prerequisites. " sounds to me like you can choose them with normal feats in addition to gaining a feat from the talent.
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>>50983898
>>50983877

cup sizes
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>>50984132
Only teen boys think cup sizes tell anything about tits real size
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>>50984143

You think anyone on /pfg/ has been close enough to a woman to have any other frame of reference?
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>>50984143
It's all about dat band size
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What's the best way to reward a friendly Osiriani innkeeper that bears a striking resemblance to Arnold Vosloo? Obviously we're paying him for his fine accommodations, but I feel like we owe him some gesture of good will beyond crass currency.
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>>50984195
>>50984158

well the idea was to have male manhood size and female bosom size be from the same roll.

For fairness and ease of creation.
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>>50984214
Just base band size on CON and STR adjusted for height somehow, so you can pin a number on how huge or tiny the torso is
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So why does Belkzen still exist? The existence of multiple kingdoms and nations that wouldn't think twice about eradicating the orcs for all time, and all the high level casters and mighty champions of those peoples make the continued existence of what is essentially a tumor-kingdom of murderous rapists pretty unreasonable.
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>>50984143

The roll was meant to be universal and easy to remember, there's more to how hefty a chest is but cup sizes are pretty ubiquitous as indicators of how huge a girl's tits are.
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>>50984233
I cant be assed to do it now. By all means if you're up for it, create an improved bust chart for us.
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>>50984303

Well share the rest of it damn it. we cant go about with just the START of the process.
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>>50984302
Several reasons, both in-world and out of character.

First and foremost, OOC it exists for the same reason there's an entire nation of undead - it's a kitchen sink setting, and as such there needs to be at least a few "brutal lands with tribal leaders". Belkzen and the Realm of the Mammoth Lords count for that. Numeria also counts somewhat.

In world the logistics of eliminating it are horrific. The thing with taking armies to go after rabble is that in those cases, the rabble isn't well-trained; all orcs, even the noncombatants in belkzen, have some weapons training and have their famed ferocity. You send an army in there equal to their artmy, that'll spur their hunters, guards, and even a fair number of their otherwise noncombatant populace to pick up arms and come after you too.

Additionally, getting bogged down in Belkzen is a good way to get every last one of your men killed, because the only common races that can see in the dark (and they're in a strict minority) are Half-orcs and dwarves, so your army is constantly going to be harried like mad by night raids where the orcs can see but your men can't.

Furthermore, there's the animals - gortheks, warcats, and war bulls; a trio of animal types that the orcs use as combat animals because they are, frankly, extremely difficult to fight, to say nothing for the standard. The land is flatly hostile, difficult to forage if you don't know what you're doing (and the orcs do, whereas modern armies won't) and if you go into the mountains to try and skirt the orcish armies, you'll have giants all up in your business, and the orcs may be able to form an alliance with them due to the threat, which makes it even worse.

Finally, getting the men you need to do this in the first place is a pain. The kingdoms of the inner sea really don't work well together, and here is no exception; getting an alliance together willing to brace all the shit I just mentioned would be a political crapshoot.
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>>50984302

Because all the bleeding heart martial classes keep the wizards from dropping meteor swarms on that shithole. Everytime the subject of magic'ing a nation into dust comes up, it's always "wizards are too strong, what about us idiots who chose to be fighters?" and they hold everyone else back. Just let the wizards take care of it and everything will be alright.
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>>50984423
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>>50984423
Wizards that cast meteor swarms never survive long enough to cast meteor swarm.
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>>50984364
But couldn't Cheliax just conjure up a Devil plague that causes orc flesh to rot away but spares all others? We're talking groups of high-end casters with Infernal support, and that's just one kingdom.

Logistics don't mean much when Literal Satan supports your opponent.
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>>50982455
/tg/'s Traveller fans are building up a decent community of cute girls doing space adventuring and trading, and getting a few games running as well.
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>>50984438
Sure, in the same way any of the gods could just wipe out all the mortals opposing them.
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>>50984438
I have no idea why you think Cheliax is in ANY position to even be concerned about Belkzen, much less help eliminate it. Look at where it is on this map; To get the belkzen, Cheliax would have to send an army through two of Varisia, Nidal, Molthune, and nirmathas, which are all places that split off from the chelish empire initially, and an army from cheliax showing up on their doorstep would make every single one of them freak out and retaliate. Additionally, due to cheliax's internal problems, such as entire cities seceding from its governance, the Holy Reclamation, and others, it needs to keep its armies internal to put down rebellion or it'll simply lose everything and won't be any help to anybody.
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>>50984482
Obviously whichever divine faction wins the Reclamation War will proceed to annex those lands for the Glory of Iomedae/Satan. This is basic shit, and you better believe fucking Molthune can't do shit about it.
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>>50984480
The difference is that orcs' patron Rovagug already got gang raped by the other gods. Logically they should have no qualms about fucking up his nasty green kids.
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>>50984506
That's not really how the gods work. Particularly not the good gods, and as we've already established, Satan isn't in a position to push for that sort of thing either.
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>>50984506
They've still got Lamashtu behind them, and she's crazy strong.
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Hey so got a game, it's going great, kinda wary that a party member might get cocky and either IC try to kill us or OC brag about how badass he is.
Game's gestalted, he's running a Rogue/Vigilante and he's pretty much a backstabbing madman with good damage.
Meanwhile I'm tanking and healing and trying to fill gaps here as a Oracle and PoW Warder (3rd party is allowed "so long as it's not totally OP") with access to Veiled Moons by being a part of the Wayward Path and Ancestor mystery.
My question is: how can I shut him down if worst comes to worst and he tries to kill us all?
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>>50984535
Pretty sure Sarenrae alone could handle that strumpet. Lamashtu's no Rovagug.
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>>50984550
High initiative and the Guard's Glare feat. As long as you can get a mark on him, he can only attack you reasonably, and as the tough bastard that means you're also the most likely to live under assault. Additionally, grab a ring of sustenance, and offer to stand guard duty most nights because you only need two hours of rest, which will give you plenty of time to watch him.

These are also reasonable suggestions even for characters not worrying about betrayal, so you can hide it as "these are just some character choice I'm making" rather than active prep for shutting down a backstabber.
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>>50984550
A reach weapon.
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>>50984573
That seems incredibly straightforward and easy, thanks!
Though I do want to say he probably won't do anything because he ain't that much of a shit head and would course correct worst come to worst, but yeah this would be great for dealing with any other sneaky hostile assassin type.

>>50984584
I mean, I'd be down, but if you'd be willingly explaining further would be great.
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>>50984566
Lamashtu, however, has the full might of shitty fetish posters behind her. Even if they're not particularly strong they're still able to ruin everything.
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>>50984320

Easy mode is to figure out the girl's band size, since that's the thing that really highlights how massive the girl's chest looks on her. A pair of 40Fs will look far less impressive than 32F, but once you get lower than 32 things get very awkward, since that's the size of her torso.
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Dragon DM Here

Any questions about dragon game i can answer?

i'll be off an on throughout the day. Gotta swap out the alternator of my car.
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>>50984642
What's your favorite movie?
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>>50984654

Planescape: Torment... Wait that was a book.
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>>50984642

Who are the most eligible bachelors and bachelorettes of the Demesne?

What's your favorite color?
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>>50984642
>heir of Tiamat

So the party is evil?
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>>50984711
When you're recruiting from /pfg/ that's definitely the most likely outcome.
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>>50984688

Well at the moment the candidate for best girl is Xelleria.

She's the Granddaughter of The Queen, and is equal parts Red and Gold, and Human. Her mother, a Red dragon had fallen in love with a Dragon slayer that fought her to a standstill by himself. The dragonslayer reciprocated, and Xelleria was born.

Xelleria is currently in the demesne to be tutored by her grandmother. however being a massive lazy bum, mainly just lets her wander free and be charisma 22. She has a fondness for strong and skilled swordsman who can also sing.


also my favorite color is blue.
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>>50984761
Those proportions are whack, but it's a cute picture anyways.
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>>50984711

The party equates to about neutral.
>>50984761
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>>50984761

its hard to find good art from the original source material that isnt grainy and old as fuck.
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>>50984782
>>50984837
What's Mink from?
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>>50981861
Kingmaker?
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>>50984642
Where is the game going? She's taking a more active interest in the world but what does that mean for the players?
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>>50982520
>not a fucking halfling

Fucking slips man, fucking slips.
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>>50978144
>>50978163
>>50978232
>>50978331
Sorry people. It's definitely flattering to hear that Lilin was well liked, but there were a couple of reasons why I felt Seht was the better choice for an app.
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>>50984950
I bet the main reason was just to make this year as awful as the last.
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>>50984879
Dragon Half, it's in the first image.
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>>50984965
O-oh, that's not just a weird way to word half-dragon, huh.
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Does someone reads the Pathfinder comic book?
I am interested in the latest material, which is a macro crossover involving Red Sonja, Tarzan, John Carter and other pulp era sword & sandal heroes.
Seems the first issue had an archetype called sword saint and the second gave the rules to roll a multi armed green martian as well as Barsoom fireweapons.
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>>50984962
I think there might be a bit of malice involved, in that I wanted to go with the less memed character.
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>>50985040
I literally know nothing about Song Lilin other than the name.
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>>50985060
Well that's only one of the reasons. Honestly, it's not final, and I may end up switching before the 15th, if a few of those reasons change.
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Why does this general in spoiler tags so much

Holy fucking shit
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>>50985117
Because it's fun. Also because off-topic or more... unacceptable things are better if they're spoilered, that way people can avoid them if they want to more easily.
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>>50985134
You mean like consensual lovemaking between adults in furtherance of their mutual romantic feelings and for the ancillary purpose of potentially conceiving children?
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>>50985166
Yeah, if you're going to talk about that a lot at length then many people would appreciate it if it was spoilered.
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>>50985134
It's a bit much when 90% of my fucking screen is black bars but I suppose I can agree.
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>IDrive has posted his character for ROTJR
>It is his fetish centaur

Anyone who expected better than this from the premier powergaming OP fetish faggot furry btfo
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>>50985216
Do you wake up every morning and go "Today I'm going to be an asshole!"
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>>50985216

Which character were you hoping he'd apply with? I quite liked Agna, she was a huge-chested Dwarf with a fat jiggly booty sure, but she had a pep in her step and a goal that was both achievable and interesting!
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>>50985259
I voted for the Alkenstar qt
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>>50985240
Yes.

>>50985259
A noose.

>>50985308
The full caster/half caster half initiator? That's even worse than the one he went with, why would you vote for such a powergaming faggoty thing.
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>>50985345
Because she sounded cute.
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>>50985352
Khair was a he.
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>>50985363
Then he must've sounded very cute
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>>50985345
I'm sorry that this is how you're choosing to use your time. Hopefully this new year will be better for you
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>>50984761
>Her mother, a Red dragon had fallen in love with a Dragon slayer that fought her to a standstill by himself. The dragonslayer reciprocated, and Xelleria was born.

I can't help but imagine most Red courtship rituals involve beating the crap out of their potential partner.

>>50984780 is right, those proportions are whack.
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>>50985392
>I'm sorry that this is how you're choosing to use your time
You're on /pfg/ nigger.

We're all wasting our lives.
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>>50985409
Yep, but at least most of us are enjoying ourselves without having to tear others down.
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>>50985216
Lol. The little girl archer has ranks in ride, they should team up for mounted combat shenanigans.
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>>50985470
What if they also had sex?
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>>50985536
What's the age of consent in Sandpoint? The girl is only sixteen.
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I want this place purged. And then I want asexuals to take over the general.
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>>50985564
Pretty sure it's probably 12 or some shit. In practice it's probably age Who's-gonna-stop-me
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>>50985802
>>50985802
>>50985802
>>50985802
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>>50985620
>Who's-gonna-stop-me
Song Lilin would have stopped you.
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>>50984919

She wants to expand her influence around the surrounding area of the demesne
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>>50985892
Song Lilin is welcome to try, but vigilante intervention only makes my erection harder!
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>>50985564
People are considered "adults" in PF by age 15, rules as written.
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>>50985936
Lilin wasn't a vigilante, she's a deputy. For vigilante intervention you're probably going to need to look to Valeriya.
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>>50985620
The other players, because I imagine they dont' want to play with a child rapist.
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>>50985956
Deputy is even better; I'll put those manacles to good use
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>>50985938
>>50985958
I'm pretty sure the player was banking on that two year timeskip to reach eighteen.
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>>50985958
It's not rape if they want it.
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>>50985938
Wouldn't it be 16, since the minimum will be 15 + 1 if you roll low?
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>>50986033
You're a disgusting person.
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>>50986120
I know~
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>>50986120
No statutory rape without a statute, friendo
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Okay I posted this at like 3 in the morning last time but HERE I GO AGAIN:

On a scale of 1-10, how good is an FCB: All that is "+1/4th a point of DR/Adamantine that stacks with other forms of DR/- and DR/Adamantime
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>>50988320
wait fuck I forgot the google doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LZldGlHu0p6JorqqwnzadMyHx874TVfzXTH6kOEjcRo/edit
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>>50988320
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