Warhammer 40,000 general

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Why are you still buying models with end times and Age Of The Emperaa so close ?

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Hopefully first for game pics.

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>>50966250

Because best faction came out not too long ago.

>>50966254
Please please please learn to resize your pictures

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>>50966255

>>50966251
I dont like the way the flyrant looks tho

>>50966235
Does the CAD give me enough slots to fit all the gaunts plus the tervigon i dont have my book on me right now so i cant check.

>>50966268
So convert one.

>>50966260
But why anon? Do you not like big,detailed pictures?

>>50966268

CAD gives you 6 slots, so yeah

>>50966282

Most likely it means he has shitty internet, so takes forever to download.

>>50966268
It does, a Combined Arms Detachment has space for 6 troops choices. You have 5 squads of Gants, so you can move one Tervigon into Troops since you have a 30 man troop termagant squad and fit your other tervigon and tyrant into the HQ slots.

Though I will say if you want a melee tyrant you should find the points to give it wings and a lashwhip/bonesword.

>>50966250
Because I want to finish my army before it becomes Marines only.

>>50966280
Title should be "cheap fuck that don't want to spend money on his army and will hopefully be banned from GW tourney for bringing third party"

>>50966296
Thank you for your input.

>>50966273
thats a bit more work than i am willing to put in just to put in a model that im not a fan of.

>>50966255
>>50966266
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>50966282
I live on a farm and every time I open one of your pics my internet becomes unusable for the next thirty or forty seconds. It wasn't a huge deal the first couple of times, but it got annoying quickly and I don't wanna think about what it does to my data allowances.

Besides, you won't actually lose any detail, or any detail that was necessary, and especially not any detail that was crucial to enjoying the battle scene by resizing.

I plan on doing Ravenwing but I can't figure out if I should do a CAD and pay the troop tax, or go with the strike force. Is it good enough to lose OS over?

>>50966250

Because I'm new and playing Space Marines

> Implying they'll ever do anything detrimental to Space Marines

>>50966323
I'll try to anon. It's just easier to post the pictures straight from my camera.

>>50966372

quit being a lazy sack of shit.

You can resize using MSPaint it's not rocket science

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>>50966254

The lads in the process of tabling a Necron decurion

>>50966250
because there are models I'd like to have and paint, you fucknugget

why the fuck do you think I'm buying them in the first place

>>50966372
You don't have to just for my sake, but it'd be nice if you did

Just keep on keeping on anon

If I take a Stormlance Battle-Company and have an allied IC (Battle Brother) join a unit from it; does the IC fuck up the unit's Mobile Firebase?

>>50966392
You took two baby carriers and he took a monolith... One of these players is taking units he likes. The other is a WAAC fag. I'll let you guys guess which one.

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Would you guys accept this mini as a Death Cult Assassin?

>>50966423
Is it the Tau player hiding in the other room?

>>50966437
No too heretical.

>>50966305
I can't tell for sure but most of those bitz look like they're straight from GW kits

>>50966437
no. looks shit

>>50966437
Looks closer to a harlequin imo

>>50966423
>babycarriers
>WAAC
They're the best unit in our codex, but hardly WAAC...There's no such thing as a Dreadknight wing or whatever and they're not unkillable. If this is some delicious new years bait, I guess I've fallen for it.

>>50966437
the horns on the mask are a little overkill

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Thread died right as I posted. 1250 Beginning Scars List.

There is a tournament coming up at the end of the month (not that hardcore); and I"m thinking of running this. I haven't played much 40k, so not expecting much.

Have debating dropping the Chaplain and running a Scarblade Strike Force instead.

>>50966437
just use a random harlequin at this point

>>50966296
Won't the bonesword make it AP3 instead of AP2 like other MC's?

>>50966497
Smash overrides the AP value of the weapon.

>>50966497

no, smash overrides any built in ap values

>>50966494
Stormlance not Scarblade

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>>50966233

Happy 0000017.M3 /tg/.

>>50966504
>>50966502
Does that make his normal attacks AP2 or just his shitty smash attack?

>>50966526

his normal

Is there any point running chimera vets with weapon teams?
I want to put together a mechanized company with only a third of the troops outfitted as grenadiers and carrying close in weapons like meltas. but i already put in a lot of work doing a few autocannon teams.

>>50966296
Original anon here im trying to cut points to see if i can fit in both wings and a sword but im always 10 points over.

>>50966522
if we're being autistic about this, wouldn't the year fraction be 001? for 0 001 017 M3?

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>>50966250

>we will see a new series and model line ushered forth along with the Emperor in all his glory and his (now) most favored son, Sanguinius

My abs quiver with excitement

>>50966598
>sanguinius coming back
Oh anon your so hopeful

>>50966437

Im not an ass, so I would allow it. That said, that 100% looks like a Harlequin because of the mask.

I'm introducing two new players to the game, at either 750 or 1000 points. I'm taking Orks. They're taking Imperial factions of some sort, most likely Marines or Guard but possibly one of the specialty factions.

Since Orks are one of the few armies I don't play at all, how do I make an army that'll be fun for both of us? I know how to make an Ork army that'll get totally smashed without putting up a fight, but that's the easy part about Orks...

>>50966578

I thought you always rounded down?

>>50966250
Because the only Necron involved with Cadia is Trollzyn

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>>50966250
Because they aren't squatting the Black Legion.

Speaking of, how's this?

>>50966494
Yeah run a stormlance.

Might be able to squeeze a speartip strike on there too (minimum points for that would be ~170, ~200 with special weapons), if you compress the Dev squad into one with no extra Marines and only one Rhino.

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I posted in the old thread less than a minute before the new one got posted, so reposting:

I don't know what the best place is to ask, here or the Warmahordes general: I'm wanting to get into casting parts for wargaming (mostly terrain, but who knows), and I have a few questions:

Are there any good resources for me to get started with this?
Does anyone know what kind of plastic/resin other independent casters (i.e. not GW, Citadel, etc.) use?
Are there any pieces you'd specifically be looking for? Barricades, buildings, etc.?

Any help would be useful.

>>50966233
Are Living Saints really only T3? I instakilled one last night with an autocannon, and it feels cheap.

I mean, it came back, but still.

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Do Genestealers really get this big?

>>50966615
We'll your best units are MANz in trukks, mek gunz, tankbustaz, gretchin, lootaz and bikerz (deffkopters are pretty good too)
Any combination of these is pretty much as good as orks get, unless you go full zhadsnark biker build

>>50966630
go to leddit /r/yoyhammer. There's some casting guides on there.

/wip/ might also help you.

>>50966641
Some, they're 'nids. They can become anything as long as they look like 'nids.

>>50966641
Most usual Biomorphs don't but ofc Nids can get fuckhuge

>>50966445
Almost all of it, actually. What I recognize:
>Skitarii Galvanic Rifles, Infiltrator heads (as orb-bot pelvises), Stubcarbines (orb-bots), Power Swords, and some of their legs; Onager Dunecrawler phosphor blaster (tri-skull) and I'm pretty sure the heavy cannon's off another Skitarii kit
>Cult Mechanicus Kataphron torso for tri-skull
>Tau Stealth Suit as the heavy weapon bearer's core
>Far right and background infantry use Skitarii Ranger arms
>The taller legs are definitely from a GW kit, but I can't place it

The only things I know for sure aren't GW are the ball torsos (of course) and the infantry heads/torso armor. The rest is GW or looks just like it. The skulls could be first or third party.

>>50966641
Broodlord/Patriarch?

>>50966658
Those are cron legs.

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nth for 2nd edition nids

>>50966618
nah

>Year Fraction: For administrative purposes the standard year is divided into 1000 equal segments; 001-000. This is a purely administrative convention and not part of everyday usage.

000 would be the end of the year (so, the evening of dec 31st in real-world time)
001 would be the start of the year (the morning of january 1st)

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>>50966675

>people unironically like these nids

>>50966641
Yeah. Broodlords are pretty swole

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>>50966675
The one true color scheme.

>>50966690
i like them because they look so funny.

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>>50966695
>implying behemoth isn't deep purple with red faces

>>50966695
Considering i got an airbrush for Christmas, i might attempt this scheme

>>50966718
Wow that looks pretty cool.

>>50966437
I def would, that looks sick as fuck anon

>>50966718
>third edition rulebook tyranids
Pictures of this army are super rare because they existed in the narrow span of time between the release of third edition and the release of the third edition tyranid codex that replaced their entire model range.

>>50966561
Are gargoyles good for anything unupgraded? i only put them into the list because they come in the tyranid sward package and it looks like a great deal.

>>50966615
>>50966643
Here's a list that im running this month in a doubles comp with a deldar player.

It's not perfect because I'm using what models I have available but I hope it gives you an idea of where to start

My apologies if this is hard to read, it's the burden of phoneposting.


++ Combined Arms Detachment (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1000pts) ++

+ HQ (269pts) +

········Mad Dok Grotsnik, Da Painboss (160pts)

········Warboss (109pts) ['Eavy Armour, Gift: Da Finkin' Kap, HQ, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs, Warlord]

+ Elites (371pts) +

········Meganobz (170pts)
············Boss Meganob [PK & Kombi-Skorcha]
············Meganob X 2 [ PK & Kombi-Skorcha]
············Trukk [Big Shoota, Reinforced Ram]

········Tankbustas (201pts) [2x Bomb Squig]
············12x Tankbusta
············Trukk [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

+ Troops + (70pts)

········Gretchin X2 (70pts)
············10x Gretchin
············Runtherd

+ Heavy Support (290pts) +

········Lootas (140pts)
············10x Loota

········Mek Gunz (150pts) [4x Ammo Runt]
············6x Extra Gretchin
············4x Kustom Mega-kannon

>>50966747
I know. It's a shame, because they're probably the best looking 2e tyranid army out there.

>>50966709

that is acceptable

>>50966752

I like them, just treat them as faster gaunts and a mobile cover screen for my big guys.

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>>50966675
have another

>>50966777

>when zoanthropes walked the earth

also checked

I just listened to the overview on vaults of terra of the burning of prospero. I have a few questions for you guys.
1. Why would anyone play the board game if they know how screwed up all of it is?
2. Is this why everyone is so excited to play the new thousand suns armies?
3. Why would anyone even like Lehman Russ or those faggot space wolves? I mean if you are a furry then sure but everyone else?
4. Can magnus in his current form take out Russ?

>>50966777
Umm does this mean nurgle watches over my nids?

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Rate this tyranid guys

>>50966822

I don't like it at al, doesn't mesh with anything they have

>>50966803
Remember, it's completely lore appropriate to put zoanthrope heads on warrior legs and give them a pair of rending claws.

It would actually pretty badass if there was a CC zoanthrope variant that retained that kind of look. Throwbacks are the best.

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>>50966822
holy shit what the fuck are you doing?!

>>50966280
Are they Necrons?

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>>50966822

Get the fuck outta' here.

>>50966844
Nids get 2 psychic charts
1 is a mix of biomancy and telekenisis
other is a mix of divination and new hivemind table

Where can I download the BoP painting guide?

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Okay guys we constantly have talks about how we can make orks and dark eldar better but how do we make nids better?

>>50966863
>>50966844
>biomancy having rending thropes
We are better at coming up with new units than GW is.

Those of us who actually play the game know what a cunt transporting models around is, I have been carting my shit around in ice cream containers for ages and need a decent case suggestion because fuck selling my soul for a citadel case.

What does everyone else use?

>>50966885
Take one of the older codexes and update it.

>>50966863

that would help a lot, the Tyranids psychic chart is not a great one.

>>50966851
Dude proxies them as AdMech for Kill Team

They remind me of old HeavyMetal Mag art

>>50966885
Improve the BS of shooting creatures by +1, or allow them to purchase improved BS. Replace genestealers with the purstrain genestealers from the cult codex. Make maleceptors mastery 3 and their stupid power warp charge 1. Eternal warrior on synapse creatures.

>>50966896
dude holy shit I didn't even think of that!!!!
>>50966899
we just keep psychic scream (nova) and paroxism

>>50966919

I think genestealers just need to leave the nid codex, they are in a better place now. I agree on maleceptors, I love the model and really want to use them, especially with improved powers.

I am ok with the BS on the little guys being 3 (lol orks) but the more elite ones need away to be improved.

>>50966934
Im sitting here looking at the exocrine entry in the codex and thinking why does this thing with a giant gun on its back only shoot at bs3?

>>50966946

It was a step in the right direction, at least it has a way to improve its BS, just sucks the range is so short he rarely gets to use it

unless I actually get to cast my powahs

>>50966946
Back in my day tyranid units could buy Enchanced Senses and get +1 BS on basically any unit. If you wanted a shooting carnifex you gave it enhanced senses, if you didn't you left it without them.

Why isn't this a thing anymore? What happened to tyranid adaptability and being able to make units do what you want?

>>50966885
bring back more biomorph options (can carnifexes even get T7 or 2+ saves anymore?)
reduce the cost of biomorph upgrades
give warriors/synapse creatures some way of surviving instant death
ways to bring gaunts back onto the table after death
let raveners deep-striking in make tunnels, a-la trygons
let units coming on from reserve through tunnels charge on the same turn
give tyrant guard W3
let genestealers buy flesh hooks

probably more things but I can't think too hard right now

>>50966963

yeah, but he started at 2 (lol orks)

I loved the fact you could customize your nids, but lets be honest a lot were no brainers and you always bought them.

>>50966437

I would allow it but that's defo a xeno senpai

>>50966885
Make them more hordelike to match the fluff
Have an endless horde rule, basically the same as that one chaos/scions rule, where whenever a unit is killed, roll a 3+ and they're back in reserves. Push them as a ridiculous assault army, give them better WS on all of their tiny units and give them a longer charge. Make it so by turn one they're in the enemy's face, forcing everyone into combat before they've established their position on the board. Basically, make them get in there and stay in there.

>>50966964

T7 needs to become a lot more common for nids, the last generation of big guys 4U had a T6, the new ones are so much bigger now and yet, here we are.

2+ would be nice, if it showed up more than once a codex, but I think they need some sort of inv or built in FnP on the new class of MCs

>>50966437
Death cult assasins are so non-specific lorewise I'd accept basically any human with a sword.

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>>50966885
Here's a small taste.

Are Zerkers angry motherfuckers, or just overly enthusiastic about fighting, much like Orks?

I just read Traitor's Hate and the regular Berzerkers seemed to be the latter, while Kharn was the only guy there who was stated to be angry.

>>50966305
>banned from GW tourney for bringing third party
Do they actually do that?

>>50967011

t5 is a little much for me on lictors, and they really should be independent of synapse, since they are meant to operate ahead of the swarm

>>50966988
The funny part is they do have an endless horde rule buts its hidden in the rising levithan 2nd book and it requires 3 units of hormagaunts and 2 units of termagaunts and a brood of warriors.

>>50966992
I think the game could do with a reduction in lethality rather than have to keep buffing everything.

>>50966624
>1 leader
>19 infantry
>2 vehicles
>3 hellbrutes
>1500 points

Are marine armies really that small?

FUCK

IM SHORT ONE TREAD FOR A LEMAN RUSS.

It's one of those little one piece fuckers. What can I do about this?

>>50967029
Depends on who's writing them. The effects of the nails are indistinct enough to leave it open.

>>50967029
Well berserkers are ones who give themselves to Khorne. It's more religious than pure anger like Kharn. But some could be frothing st the mouth angry.

>>50967048
When you run two squads of terminators and two squads of what count as vets, yes.

>>50967034
That's why they're Leadership 10 and Stubborn, and a Lictor occasionally failing an IB Lurk test (which will only happen ~8% of the time) is actually fluffy as hell since they are behaviourally hard-wired to be cautious and patient in stalking their prey almost to a fault, and may sometimes hesitate another few seconds before striking just to be sure. Even then, by treating synapse creatures as being in range within 24" they'll rarely have that issue.

>>50966437
Only if it's balanced without weights under the base.

>>50967043

I agree, but this is what we have now. Tyranids need something for their MCs, seeing as how I don't see Tau and Eldar walkers ever actually becoming walkers, its a step.

>>50967066
Easiest way would be to just make them all gargantuan.

>>50967043
It's not really buffing so much as getting rid of all the unnecessary nerfs that cunt Cruddace threw at them for beating his Guard. These are things Tyranids had access to in the past in multiple editions.

>>50967061

that's what I mean though, its just rules bloat. Just give them the ld10 and stubborn and call it a day.

>>50967048
more or less, though he's loading his dudes up with upgrades

my 1500 codex marines list has thirty bodies, four tanks and one walker

>>50967049
Did you already glue it all together?

>>50967076

as much as I would love that, we tried that in a few games and holy shit it wasn't fun for the other guy.

Trygons were beastly again though, so that was nice

>>50967090
not yet no

>>50967096

call GW and they will likely send you the whole sprue again

>>50967078
Most of them you might as well bake straight into the unit. I'd always take +1T, FnP or an invun on it unless it was absurdly overpriced, in which case I wouldn't ever take it.

>>50967096
Could either model it like it took battle damage, or call up GW and they should send you the piece. The whole one if they're nice

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>>50967110

Even if its all cut out of the sprue and cleaned?

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>>50967034
>t5 is a little much for me on lictors
Andy Friggin Chambers disagrees, newfriend.

>>50967118

comparing 2nd edition stats to what we have now is a losing endeavor anon, its a totally different game.

>>50967079
A single line of text for a special rule hardly qualifies as bloat, but I agree that's probably the least necessary piece on there.

>>50967113
They may ask for you to send a picture with your shoe on your head but it shouldn't be an issue.

>>50967113
Did you drop the piece on the floor and lose it or did it not show up in the box?

>>50967130
I got it through a resaler, do I still go through them or straight to gw?

>>50967127

a single line no, but it adds up over time. Look how large that entry is already getting

>>50967132
I may have lost it but im pretty anal about these things so I doubt it.

>>50966233
Can anybody give me some more info on Imperial Orks?

I saw a comic that had an Ork Komissar leading a bunch of Orks with imperial gear. They called themselve "Da Emprahs Greenest" and now I suddenly have a raging hardon for Orks that revere the Emprah as a god.

"Dis Emprah gitz gots tah now a fing or two if dose 'umies been foightan dose beakies for so long"

"Why dont's we asks 'im?"

I also remember a story of a "Deff Wotch" kill team that disguised themselves as crudely made Space Marines to help out the Imperium of Man and saved the humans' hides multiple times, even preventing the end of Terra and talking to the Emprah himself.

Shit like that makes me rock hard.

>>50967126
And yet almost every other unit in the book still has the same toughness stat today as it did in that one.

Warriors and Lictors should be T5 again, there's really no good reason why they shouldn't. If a marine on a fucking bike can be T5 a 12 foot tall bio-engineered monstrosity with double skeletal systems and interwoven kevlar mesh for muscle fibers sure as hell can.

>>50967134
GW, like with any fucked up product it's the manufacturer that is responsible for replacements due to missing parts, just like with any kind of product. They may want a photo of the lot code printed on the box and to see a copy of your receipt.

>>50967136
Lictors are supposed to have one of the largest special rule sections of almost any unit though, that's their thing. They are hyper specialized at what they do.

>>50967050
>>50967051
So Khorne hasn't blessed them in any way? They don't seem to do anything supernatural either, and they were already the best melee legion before the Heresy.

>>50967155
>So Khorne hasn't blessed them in any way?
they have his mark

>>50967161
What does that even do? I can't make them angry because they clearly weren't in TH, which is as canon as it gets (not to mention anger is not really a blessing).

>>50967165
>because they clearly weren't in TH, which is as canon as it gets
Canon or not, it doesn't really change the fact that some authors just do whatever. Chaos blessings aren't flat stat boosts. They do "stuff", but what "stuff" that is will change from book to book.

the 'zerks in traitor's hate were probably being written as [generic close combat space marines], because whoever wrote traitor's hate didn't give enough of a fuck to distinguish them from their opponents. In another book they may have superior speed, strength, wards, armour (in the olden times, the mark of khorne gave +1 to your armour save. Khorne Marines were rocking 2+ saves standard), or beneficial mutations.

>>50967145

we can keep arguing, but neither of us is going to convince the other anon, so I will just agree to disagree.

Warriors I could see, only because they need it in game to make them viable. But as long as DP are only t5, I think a smaller creature can handle being not as tough.

>>50967152

I just see more is not always better, I like most of what you have and the whole synapse part just seems like extra that will not effect the game in any meaningful way 99% of the time.

>>50967145
With lictors there's an argument to be made that in 7E they're intended to be fielded as a unit, whereas in 2E they were single models only at a much higher points cost so they are weaker individually to compensate.

Warriors however there is no excuse for, the unit size and points per model are exactly the same between those editions.

Playing a game today with a friend, my Infantry Guard company versus his Nid Swarm (Termagaunts and Hormagaunts with some Warrior Support plus a couple of bigger critters)

Place your bets, boys.

Anyone know any cheap Imperial Guard alternatives? I mean cheaper than GW. Don't care about quality just has to be in plastic.

>>50967203

whats in an infantry guard company?

>>50967186
>With lictors there's an argument to be made that in 7E they're intended to be fielded as a unit, whereas in 2E they were single models only at a much higher points cost so they are weaker individually to compensate.
Yeah but I would say that whole argument is flawed because they SHOULDN'T have ever been designed to be cheaper, weaker, and in units, as that was a pretty blatant ploy to sell more models and does against the fluff of them typically working as lone operatives.

Furthermore, if Warriors are increased to T5, Lictors must be as well, since they're just highly specialized strains of Warriors (and possibly even larger?). They are essentially Genestealer Patriarchs which trade away the psychic element for increased stealth and special biomorphs - if those can be T5, so can Lictors. There's no sense in something that large not benefitting from the same Toughness increase over the smaller bugs.

>>50967203
>fighting an army that can't kill vehicles worth a damn with Guard
>Use infantry
I don't even.

>>50967209
Infantry probably.

>>50967213
>and does against the fluff
*goes against

>>50966946
Should be a s10 ap2 large blast

>>50967220

yeah I missed the part where he said infantry company. I would hope nids could pull this out if its bodies vs bodies

>>50967213
I was just playing devils advocate bro, I wasn't saying it was a good argument.

>>50967182
How were they not distinguished from their enemies in TH? They were clearly shown as marines with excessive testosterone and zero discipline. While the Death Company hallucinated about the siege of Terra and were physically stronger, the Zerkers were more skilled and seemed to enjoy battle. The exception being Kharn who was even more fanatical while also being angry.

Also, Traitor's Hate was a campaign book by GW. By default it overrides anything from BL that contradicts it.

A lot of the powers of the hive mind seem rather useless i mean increased synapse or feel no pain is a great but they all seem so lack luster compared to all the other disciplines out there.

>>50967232
I know, sorry I wasn't trying to attack you, just addressing the argument.

>>50967234
what are you even looking for from this, man

I'm telling you GW doesn't have a standard for what berzerkers are like. They're marked by khorne, but the mark of khorne has given different blessings in every single fucking edition.

>>50967219

I like my platoons and I want to still have a friend after the game.

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21,5€ discount from bying them seperately! Fuck me the new GW is starting to deliver. Now I just have to wait for some black templar love in fall of Cadia and all the stars are right.

>>50967262
Im gonna actually be able to buy Rhinos for cheap now, so Im pretty hyped.

>>50967262

BT looking to get another campaign codex? things really are going back in time

>>50967262
It's almost as if they're trying to sell people models or something.

>>50967238
One power should be a blessing that makes a single unit within 24 inches make an immediate extra shooting attack or fight a round of combat if locked in combat

Another power should make a unit move an extra time and still be able to run /charge

Another power should be a kind is mind war power

The primaris should be fnp for a unit

Warp blast should be there strength of the lance should vary dependant on Ld of the nid shooting

Another should be an anti shooting hex

Final should be some virus types attack

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>>50966323
Like this one anon?

>>50967289
It's a trap don't do it it's 4.45 MB

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So I'm considering pic related. The idea is to line my back field with wire to stop drop pods and bombard things from afar while my terminators and obliterators deep strike in behind enemy lines.

Thoughts/criticisms?

>>50967262
Tfw i still want to model all my space marines with veteran levels of detail.
These clean un-ornamented fuckers trigger me hard.

>>50967294
>4.45 MB
>Oh no my dial ups internet

>>50967280

Lets go real crazy anon, lets give the Maleceptor a D warp blast

>>50967301
That's a pretty large image relative to what you actually need.

Sure it takes ME two seconds, but you're just being a turbojewnigger to people that have shit internet

>>50967310
If it is a worry, don't open the picture?
If you want a high res picture taken on a google pixel, then click on it.
It isn't up to me to regulate what you should and shouldn't be clicking on.

would hormagaunts that can run and then assault but can only assault 6" in the assault phase be broken?

>>50966323
Just check the resolution before clicking anon...
It has the file size and resolution next to the file name so you know what to avoid. There's no excuse you denying the rest of us from seeing high quality photos because you have a bandwidth problem.

>>50967322
Why would that be broken?

Hormagaunts that could move six, make a D6 move in the shooting phase then assault 12" weren't broken.

>>50967322

It wasn't a problem before

>>50967322
Broken in a bad way, yeah.

Hormagaunts should move like Sicarians. 9" move, d6+3" Run, 2d6+3" charge. Leaping grants Hammer of Wrath if the total charge roll is 10 or more.

>>50967262
Order from Dark Sphere or any other discount FLGS for extra savings

>>50967342

I like to support my flgs, so I buy from them. Of course if I spend more I get the 20% discount their so it helps

>>50967335
when could they do that. Sorry im a new nids player and if its in this edition im very confused

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>>50967338
WIth leaping warriors and prime having that too this could be nice thing but then again, nids can't have that.

>>50967363

the codexes prior to the current one

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I've never played the game but I've been looking to getting into it. I'd like to build a close combat army maybe, either Salamanders or Legion of the Damned, because deep striking sounds fun.

Vulkan He'stan looks like a fun unit to have, and the Caestus Assault Ram, maybe that Dreadnought HQ the Salamanders can get Ashmantle.
And the Thunderfire cannon looks like a neat unit to have too.

Could something like that work out well? Deep striking, packing lots of fire and melta, giant mobile artillery gun with techmarine accompaniment, all that sounds like it could be really fun.

>>50967368
Really all of them? so hormahaunts got severly crippled is what your telling me?

>>50967275
>>50967262
None of it matters though if people aren't playing the fucking game. It's no secret that their success during the 2000's was tied DIRECTLY to DOW

>>50967376

If you aren't a flyrant, you got hurt this edition.

>>50967363
3rd and 4th.

Hormagaunts are supposed to be some of the fastest creatures alive; they're bio-engineered alien velociraptors cracked out on organically synthesized space amphetamines, they fucking run down Eldar jetbikes in the fluff, suicidally jump on and rip the riders from the damn saddles if they don't crash and splatter on impact from a bad landing. But Cruddace decided they should have the same assault threat range as Grots.

>>50967376
Tyranids as a whole got severely crippled, in almost every possible way, multiple times in a row, while also having their fluff raped and disrespected by a bitter idiot who doesn't understand them.

>>50967386
>>50967393
>>50967384
Now im angry that my 90 gaunts dont get to be super cool and swarmy

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>>50967393

Hey now, resident tyranid expert disagrees

>>50967407
If someone on /tg/ meets this guy at Adepticon and gives him a hard kick in the fucking nads and tells him "that's for Tyranids", and posts video proof, I will pay you $200. Screencap this.

>>50967407
That smug look makes me hate him more

>>50967398

Yeah, that's why I rarely use mine anymore, except when I am playing swarmy and just say fuck it

>>50967407
I wish Andy Chambers would tear that fucking nerd apart in a televised cage match for what he did to the nids.

>>50967393
I'm not sure how much of that is on cruddace rather than corporate/other designers.

He usually adds in a few fun rules, but much of his stuff was forcibly removed when GW cut all the characters from IG/nids, leaving them with their sterile 6e codexes.

he seems a bit dull, but not malicious or anything

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>>50967427

>why do they always forget about me

>>50967427
Nids should have never had special characters in the first place. 4e had zero in the whole book and was the best damn one.

If Cruddace wasn't such a cock how did we end up with a shitty book from him twice in a row? One could be an accident, but all over again? No fucking way.

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>>50967407
>>50967424
For comparison: the handsome, based guy who invented the Tyranids and wrote their early stuff. Looks like a fun dude instead of a smug beady eyed faggot.

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>>50967450

>your time has passed, the future is mine

>>50967459
Well considering Cruddace wasn't allowed anywhere near Genestealer Cults I think it's possible his time is passed too.

>>50967459
can we not zoom on his face its scaring me anon

>>50967437
I use them as Biovores, since their models are so, so bad

>>50967475
Same, honestly.

I think they were intended as a Biovore model replacement but then the business execs said no we want to sell our existing Biovore stock, make it something different so we can sell both.

And then they gave it horrible fucking rules that no one could ever justify using so it became a Biovore replacement by accident.

>>50967467

ok 4u anon

>>50967463

We can hope, but GSC is not really nids proper, and I expect GS to be removed from the next update

>>50967376
That wasn't just Hormagaunts, in 3rd edition any unit with the ***Mutable Genus*** (warriors, gaunts, hive tyrants, carnifexes, ripper swarms) tag except carnifexes could buy movement biomorphs, non-standard weapons options and a bunch of other crap.

So you could have jump pack warriors with BS4, flying ripper swarms with guns, 2+ saves on every monstrous creature, the list goes on.

>>50967489
>and I expect GS to be removed from the next update
Unlikely. Scions are in the Guard Codex despite having their own minidex. Plenty of Codexes share an army list entry with others (hell just look at Space Marines).

If GW lets Cruddace molest the nids again there will be riots.

>>50967442
>>50967437
>If Cruddace wasn't such a cock how did we end up with a shitty book from him twice in a row?
I said a few fun rules, not good rules

Ymgarls, parasite, reintroduction of the red terror by way of the mawlocs, venomthorpes.. the 5e book had some cute ideas that fell short. Then the 6e book took even those cute ideas away and left us with the bad rules on their own.

I dunno. The timing of the 6e nid book was odd enough that its total badness was probably linked to more than one person. That's when the chapterhouse bullshit was happening, after all.

>>50967503

I don't follow loyalist release, did guard get a new codex since scions?

and you have more faith than me anon, I expect him to be the rules designer for nids and just crediting the studio like they have been

>>50967498
all of those ,except for maybe flying ripper swarms with guns, sound amazing i can imagine just being able to make your termagaunts shooting at bs4

>>50967511

I get enough 'fun' rules with chaos, I would settle for solid rules. maybe he pulls it off and silences the haters. Maybe it wasn't all his fault and it was the companies, we shall see.

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So how would you equip a squad of stormtroopers these days?

I'm looking at ordering some bits for a conversion I've been meaning to do and am wondering what special weapons and loadout for the sarge I should pick up.

>>50967526
I personally think the codex is a middle ground between the strength of the GSC codex and the strength of traitor legions.

>>50967540
should be* fuck i need to go to bed

>>50967545

that is the perfect place to be indeed

>>50967530
still mad as fuck they stopped making those dank models.

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Updated 1250 White Scars list. Just starting out w/ 40k. Local gaming store is holding a 1250 tourney at the end of the month. (Not ultra-competitive)

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>wanted to ask a few quick questions about getting into the game
>people decide it's Tyranids autism time instead

O-okay

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>>50967559

>>50967373
if you've never played 40k don't start with Forgeworld. it's expensive, difficult to build, and you'll want to know what you're doing before you take on building and painting big pricey resin kits

but yeah, other than that, if you wanna do salamanders he'stan is great. thunderfire cannons aren't as popular in marine lists these days because they don't fit into their most powerful meta lists but they're still a great unit that can do a lot.

in general, if you wanna do salamanders read what they can do in the angels of death supplement, and then decide if you want to run that or just take them in a normal detachment. deep strike in general is the way to go with salamanders, though, so lots of drop pods are in your future if that's the army you like

>>50967559
what do you want to know?

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Happy new years!
Any general goals for you and your army?

>>50967559
Ask away anon we are just having a friendly conversation about a non-marine or tau army for once.

>>50967559
>wanted to discuss tyranids with the fellows
>some autist decides it's "be passive aggressive about dumb shit instead of asking my question" time instead

O-okay

>>50966552
Bumping this.
Is there a place for chimera vet weapon teams?

>>50967530
assuming we're using the militarum tempestus rules? there's a lot of ways you can do it, honestly. meltas are good, plasma is really good, volley guns can be good, really depends on what you need them to do.

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>>50967575

>tfw still 20 mins from 2017

>>50967559
Grav cannons and grav cannon accessories for marines.

>>50967559
>tfw you get to the thread late, answer anon's question, but you type slowly and he's gotten discouraged right before you finish writing

well shit man

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>>50967575
my goal is to have this thing built and painted by the end of the year

>>50967608

Depending on your pain scheme, that is very doable. Though that lone exocrine makes me sad.

>>50967608
Are those all models you plan on getting, or do you have even a portion of that list done? That's quite a large amount of space bugs.
>>50967595
Don't worry anon, you'll make it here soon.

>>50967559
Sorry anon, shall we just round up all the Tyranid fans having in-depth discussion and tell them they need to stop and cater to your newfag questions??

>>50967595
What the fuck are you doing. 2017 is old news at this point

>>50967625
i plan on getting them all this year. i already have gaunts on the way that i grabbed off ebay.

>>50967621
I plan to go a deserty theme kinda like scorpions where they have a sandy looking body but their backs are black.

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>>50967635

>tfw painting alone with in 2016

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>>50967570
Yeah, I was thinking the Forgeworld things looked expensive as fuck but they sure look cool.

Thunderfire cannons looks fun for being a long range solution to enhance an army dominated mostly by flame and melta, and it adds more shit to drop pod in.

I've had a deep love for drop pods ever since Dawn of War introduced me to the series, so I've always wanted to build an army with them in it. And Deep Striking looks like it could be a way to make up for lists that aren't as meta by being able to apply more versatile tactics.
Are there rules for what happens if a drop pod lands on something?

>>50967572
>>50967576
Here >>50967373

>>50967578
I asked my question literally one post before the autism started.

>>50967604
Are you >>50967570 ?

>>50967640

that sounds cool, but I have no idea what it will look like so if it is fast or not I have no idea

>>50967525
At the low, low cost of +2pts per model you could have BS4 termagaunts.

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>>50967653

Liar, the nid autism was going on well before that, we were just on lictors at that point.

>>50967640
Hot damn that's a lot then. Good luck with all of that, anon.

>>50967559
It's always Tyranid autism time anon

>>50967666
*tyranism

>>50966885
give hive tyrant and other MC invul saves, let a few of their units charge out of deep strike

>>50967665
well i got 364 days to get em and paint em so as long as i dont slack off itll be easy peasy leviathan squeezy

>>50967653
>>>50967604 (You)
>Are you >>50967570 (You) ?
yap

>Are there rules for what happens if a drop pod lands on something?
there's a chaos formation that lets you squish things with a kharybdis, but other than that, no. the main benefit of a drop pod versus a normal deep strike is that if it scatters into a model or terrain it goes as far as it can and then stops; normally when that happens you get a mishap and have to roll on a table where most of the things that happen are horrible. drop pods can only mishap if the scatter throws them all the way off the board, and if you understand how the pod rules work you can usually place them in such a way that it's basically impossible for them to do that (since, again, they'll just scatter as far as they can before they hit something then just land there).

ashmantle's model is fucking cool as hell (and the rules/fluff for the guy that originally piloted it in the Horus Heresy books are even cooler) but fuck if that thing doesn't look like it'd be a bitch to paint. that's kind of the biggest drawback with salamanders in general - they're the legion of craftsmen and artificers, so you have to go a bit above and beyond when you're painting them or it doesn't look right. gotta be a salamander to play salamanders, basically.

>>50967437
This model takes Dicks Out For Harambe (DOFH) to the next level.

>>50967608
now this is a fucking tyranid fluff army

>>50967701
what can i say i love gaunts

>>50967701

its pretty close, but that poor tyrant is going to get his shit pushed in every game.

>>50967710
Eh hell be used to it by the third game and start rolling me 6's all the time

>>50967722

well, as long as he accepts it ok then, its just a weird swarm list for me is all

>>50967575
Finish my Spartan (undercoated ATM)
Finish my Sicaren (just need to glue sponsons, and then paint)
Finish my Fire Raptor Gunship (70% built)
Actually receive my first recastLeviathan, and then assemble that
Then purchase a set of recon marines for use as scouts
Purchase a tech marine
Then I will have 2k worth of Minotaurs :)

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>>50967664
>>50967666
It was off and on since the start and a lot more scattered, it just so happened that all the posts immediately after mine were solid Tyranid discussion.

Honestly I don't care, it was interesting to see people talk about Nids, seeing as I only know one person who plays Nids and she's a mute girl, so she doesn't talk about them much, really wasn't expecting much feedback on my uniformed questions at three in the morning anyway.

>>50967689
Yeah, I've really like the Salamanders, and I've been pretty interested in the modeling aspect of the game as much if not more than playing it, mainly because I love looking at the dioramas and such people set up at the game stores, and I like fussing over little details and trying to give personal touches to things when possible.

The only thing about making models is that it's a hard thing to practice without just doing it, and that could end up with a bunch of mediocre practice models laying around.
I have heard of one guy saying he painted plastic army men for practice before he started on his armies. Maybe I should try that.

>>50967752

is she a cute mute gril?

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>>50967706
>>50967710
this is the kind of army where even if you lose you win, cause your opponent is gonna be so tense and shitting his pants at the 150+ nids coming towards him. would be a great game to play in for both sides

>>50967738
Oh and finish basing my marines and terminators, also need to scratch some mould lines off the termies thunder hammers, and repaint those.

>>50967731
i cant figure out what to drop to make him a flyrant as i feel like the toxin sacs on the hormagaunts are needed to make them hit frequently enough and dropping all the things i think aren't necessary on my other units i end up with about 10 points under having enough for a flyrant with a bonesword that is recommended. And i mean swarms are highly disposable as they are only meant to beat down the enemy so that the rest can take away the biomass and remake them to take the next planet.

What's the most fun way to play Tau?

>>50966305
>Being this much of a redshirt.

>>50967756
She's a racist lesbian.

>>50967759

oh I have a fun swarm list, I just don't have a lone naked tyrant and a lone exocrine in mine.

I have a few warriors (endless swarms) and venomthropes mixed in with my shooty bugs, which change between tyranofex with spray or exocrines

>>50967789
She sounds cute.

>>50967296
Any thoughts?

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GSC 1000 pts

Pretty standard list I suppose.

I'm in two minds about just the Patriarch's familiars, as I could just buy another body for the squad he joins with their points.

>>50967768

melee flyrants make me cry, so I cannot recommend anything there.

I don't want to change your list, you made it yours so I will just drop it

>>50967806
More like you could drop the Familiars and give Metamorph claws to a full squad of 5 metas.

>>50967789

a mute racists, that sounds like fun. is she a qt, would make a great wingman

>>50967790
i would love to shove more exocrines into the thing as i love the way the model looks but its such a expensive model that doesnt do much in game.

>>50967806
Nice list. Shame everyone will hate you.

I really want a GSC list because they are so cool. But I don't want everyone to hate me :(

>>50967831
Anyone who hates you for playing GSC is probably a Tau or Eldar faggot. Most other players are either playing a bad army that loses all the time anyways, or can handle being in close combat turn 1.

>>50967841
>Can't handle being in close combat turn 1
That is most armies my dude.

>>50967830

they are in a weird spot that's for sure. some games they are my mvp, others they just don't perform.

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Do Fire Drakes have their own rules or are they just fancy Salamanders themed hammer and shield termies?

>>50967856

that's because most armies focus on shooting, my KDK against friends GSC are some fun games

>>50967856
As I said, it's most armies that are bad and already losing games to any decent tier Codex, or, Taudar faggots who deserve every loss to GSC you can shove up their gaping asses.

>>50967859
its the 24" on the artilery that makes it kinda hard i believe

>>50966718

Holy crap i remember that picture from like 15 years ago.

that issue of WD is what got me into this fucking hobby.

>>50967872

yes, but people would cry foul if nids got that gun at say 36 or 48, so I can understand. that's why I like to run them with my hordes list as everything runs up the table anyways,

>>50966250

Because Age of the Emperor might finally give my Orks decent rules.

>>50967880
People cry foul now about the few sort-of-decent things nids still have. Those weak faggots would not have survived in the days of 2e.

I can't wait for the next nid Codex to turn them into a shitstomping machine like GSC on crack.

>>50967885
We can only hope, friend.

>>50967806

Your list is illegal and if you want to win games so badly dust off the tau you own and just play your multiple riptide wings again

>>50967896
>Calling a GSC player a Taufag
On behalf of my void-blessed brother, fuck off and die.

Also, nothing about that list is illegal what the fuck are you talking about.

>>50967889

the only complaints I get now are about flyrants when I run them, and most I play started in 5th so they don't know how bad it is.

I still don't have much hope for the next codex getting that boost. I would settle for fixed psychic powers and a few internal balancing tweaks. flyrants are toast and whatever new big model they will cram down our throats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6tlq8jhsOo

Thousand Sons don't seem too terrible in this video. This list is rubric heavy, with a bunch of the IA13 vehicles as backup, no Magnus, no Tzaangors, no Pink Horrors. They almost table memestealers + flyrants, the bugs steal a win by objectives.

>>50967863

In 30k they have two wounds each, I believe.

In 40k they are just standard TH/SS terminators.

>>50967896

>Illegal

What is?

>Tau

what?

>>50967916
If the next Codex is anything short of unrecognizable from the down syndrome shitscribblings of Cruddace from the past two editions I will fucking find the person responsible on a dark moonless night.

>>50967934
Do many people play 30k at all?

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>>50967921

So they lost, again.

>>50967943

I will pay my respects to Cruddance now then.

F

>>50967789
I can get behind this. Send her my number.

>>50967629
>in-depth discussion
>muh old codex
>muh wishlisting
>fug crud ;__;
I guess that's the best that mindless beasts can muster...

>>50967972

not everyone gets free toys for just showing up anon, so which are you?

eldar tau or grav fag?

>>50967972
>being this mad other people aren't talking about your speshul snowflake faction instead
Why is it that anti-nidfags are always the most cancerous? Is there something about nids that just enrages the spergs like Carnac?

>>50967986
Maybe it's the fact that they're played by females often, and the most cancerous manchildren in the fandom are bitter kissless virgins who take it out on nids by proxy.

>>50967993

I have still never met a female who plays nids, eldar yes fat weebs but no qt bug players

Updated list:
>muh old codex
>muh wishlisting
>fug crud ;__;
>general bitching

>>50968010
I met one girl at my LGS reading the Genestealer Cult Codex so I guess that half counts.

>>50968010
It's a meme.

>>50968015
>is the one bitching
>tries to pin it on Tyranid players who had constructive discussion to the point of someone posting an entire PDF of suggested rules
The irony.

>>50968010
I can be a qt bug player if you want me to be.

>>50967752
>I have heard of one guy saying he painted plastic army men for practice before he started on his armies. Maybe I should try that.
I've heard people do that too, it's not bad advice. Read tutorials, watch tutorials (the WarhammerTV stuff on youtube really is excellent), thin your damn paints, and remember that washes and drybrushing are fucking magic when you do it right.

>>50968037

Yes, I would like that

>>50968037
M-me too... my friend tells me if I'd been born a grill he'd date me and always teases me for being so effeminate...

>>50967946
Varies a lot. I'd check to see if anyone would be interested in your local game store, since you never know unless you ask. It's certainly grown a lot in popularity over the last year and a half with the plastic boxes GW has released.

>>50968047
Anon you might need more testosterone then see a doctor.

>>50968047

your friendo might just be gay too
not that its a bad thing either way anon

>>50968047
Stop being such a pathetic piece of shit. this is the 40k general.

fem fa/tg/uy here, can you nose breathers learn to talk to women, or just pretend I am not there?
Yes I notice you looking at me every second
No I don't care about your poor attempt at conversation just because I am a girl.

>>50968069

but 40kg is on /tg/ anon, so its ok

>>50968072
post your nids or gtfo

>>50968072
Post tits or gtfo.

>>50968084
No I like >>50968083 's suggestion better.

Nids or gtfo should be the go-to response to females in /40kg/

>>50968072

post penis or gtfo

>>50968083
I collect DE...

>>50968084
Sorry nose breather, I don't need to pander to your made up rules

>>50968074
It's 40kg not "oWo i'm a qt trap please give me the attention no one else ever would" general.
These people are worse than bronies.

When did CSM Havocs become resin shit?

And are the alternate sources of Heavy weapon arms?; I'll probs be nabbing the autocannon offa forgeworld.

>>50968098
Only if they're not actually cute.

The correct response should be "pics or it didn't happen".

>>50968099

when they stopped making metal, all the weapons and upper torsos were metal.

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more second edition nids

>>50968099
Yes, to make good havoks:
>Buy weapons from Forge World
>Buy the upgrade bodies suited to your army from FW
>Put together with CSM box

>>50968104

I like the color scheme, but damn those models be ugly

>>50968103
>>50968111
Well... fuck.

Guess Anvil Industry'd getting my money, at least they include arms for their heavy weapons.

>>50968139
Oh, my bad, I thought you wanted good looking models, and were willing to invest money for a cool looking army.

>>50968149
I already have torsos and heads for CSM, and anvil industry auto-cannons are closes to current ed autocannons than the 30k lines are.

>>50968160
but dont the 30k auto cannons make sense for the legions since they haven't got new gear ever.

>>50968165


uhoh youve just come across a big plothole in 30k

new strawpoll on your fav army
http://www.strawpoll.me/12003677/r

>>50967962
What are you expecting ger to do?
Calle you?

>>50968190

I think text is reasonable

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>>50968139
Some suggested Big Shootas for it, might work with Nurgle since the bikers are also half war-bikes.

Though I'd have to do a better job removing the ork arms.

>>50968165
True, but on the flipside, they are way to clean.

>>50968190

is ger a pronoun or a mistype, this could be life or death

>>50966934
Way late to the party on this thought.

Genestealers should leave the nid codex it would make them easier to balance. They did it with the space jokers

>>50968190
No I'm expecting her to send nudes. Text me, duh.

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Been tweaking this list throughout the night while working on some of the models.

Just started out.

Been debating if running 3 power weapons + storm shields or 2 PW + 4 SS is the way to go.