Warhammer 40k general

First for Slaanesh

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We all dead soon.

3rd for the Hive Mind

Nth for Nurgle ironically being less cancerous than Chaosfags

Anyone have tips for building a low point Guard list? Say, 750 points?

This thread is dead. Time for unpopular truths.

>Chaos Space Marines are still second tier at absolute best, and most are still closer to Ork-tier than not
>GW has changed absolutely nothing about their lazy, inferior rules development- nothing about the last few releases has indicated a willingness nor ability to write a balanced ruleset
>Story progression is going to be glacial and unsatisfactory - look to Horus Heresy and despair

>>50961364
The sad part being our finest hour is gunna be co-opted by necrons and the sisters of freaking battle.

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I can feel your feels.

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Crusade Tech-Support is on its way, heretics get ready to get blown the fuck out.

>>50961456
this thread literally just started you fucking dip

>>50961455
The start collecting box formation isn't awful.

Chimera Vets with melta/plasma are always good.

CCS with plasma or melta in a Chimera, also good.

A combination of those things would probably get you to 750.

>>50961455
Take a tank commander in an exterminator, a couple veteran squads, and laugh as the guard suddenly goes from low-mid to total cheese tier.

>>50961468
You're thirteen years too late for your finest hour. Now is the time for sadness and chaos wank.

So, does anyone have a link to a pdf/epub of the new Traitor Legions book? It ain't in the Mega folder.

>>50961455
Boyz before toyz.

Leman Russ tanks are actually good at this level.

Pick a theme and go for it.

>>50961468
>our finest hour is going to be co-opted by a faction that has received little attention since the early 2000's
>how dare they

>>50961518
>how dare they
Damn right. How dare they. Sisters own the moon for fuck sake, let them fight there and leave my war torn planet alone.

>>50961477
Thread can be fresh as fuck and still be dead. It's a holiday.

>>50961518
I mean, I'm actually happy that we're at least loosing our glorious last stand to the sisters and not, say, the ultramarines. But I was still hoping we could get a last hurrah before Chaos fucked us, mutated us, forced us to puke our guts out and cut up the remaining husks.

>>50961546
>It's a holiday.
The calander turns over. Big whoop

What's the easiest canon major hive fleet to paint?

>>50961499
>>50961482
>>50961478

Thanks, folks. Getting a friend into the game for the first time, he's a treadhead. Running 750 points of Orks as a green tide to match against him, trying to subtly help him tailor it so he has a good first game.

>>50961567
By paint do you mean to paint well? because its probably leviathan. If you dont wanna do that then just do your own custom one. painting nids only requires like 3 colors.

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I've spent a lot of time painting up Word Bearers, I have a (fluffy?) kill team built now.

First squad is 5 Chosen, led by Host First Sergeant Vhalas, the team leader. The guy on the left is Abyssal Brother Ornosh, a Heavy Bolter specialist with Reaping Volley for proper machine gun utility.

Do I have to make slaaneshi daemonkin myself?

>>50961567
kraken

bone is easier to paint than white (leviathan)
red is easier to paint than black (behemoth)

>>50961476
who is that Incubi-lookin dude in red supposed to be? corsair?

>>50961580
Yeah, definitely take a Russ or two. At 750 against Orks, that AV14 front will actually feel durable.

Make sure he still has enough bodies.

>>50961606
>>50961567

No way is Leviathan the easiest to paint.

Probably Kraken. Prime bone, wash agrax, drybrush bone again, base and highlight red on chitin.

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>>50961580
If he's a treadhead, recommend him to paint his guard to match the WWII French. Because the Leman Russ is basically a Char 1 in a mirror. This will also differentiate him from the million other players who paint the Russes to look like German or British vehicles.

>>50961611
GW or HoR?

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>>50961611

(it looks so bad zoomed in this much lel)

Second squad is an Ashen Circle cult(5 raptors). Iconoclast Pyr Gorak has Dirty Fighter(Soul Blaze) as his specialist skill to represent his flaming brand and hand flamer. The guy with the hook whip has a hand flamer too, which is being run as a regular Flamer. The cult's Possessed blade-slave is a raptor with the Indomitable(Feel No Pain) specialist skill.

>>50961580

MechGuard vs Orks at 750 is gonna feel amazing for him. Orks will struggle against that AV14 front, and if it's just a regular LRBT, that big cannon will leave craters where boyz used to be. Definitely a good matchup if you want to encourage him.

>>50961644

I normally have just played GW rules, but I want to try HoR sometime, since it looks like a better system.

>>50961633
hm never thought about that

>>50961652
>soul blaze

Worthless in normal 40k, and basically a self-nerf in Kill Team.

For the love of Lorgar take something else.

>>50961625
What does it say about the rules that the heaviest armor value in the game short of a titan no longer feels durable?

>>50961671

Aren't extra hits from the pistol on the targeted model alright? What makes it bad in Kill Team?

>>50961625
>>50961658
I cooked up a list just to see what'd fit. Two vet squads in Chimeras, CCS, two scout Sentinels (against orks they can't be *that* bad, and the extra firepower is probably nicer than a bare on-foot veteran squad), and the Start Collecting formation. 35 bodies, 3 Chimeras, 2 Sentinels, and a Russ is probably enough versus two full-strength slugga Boyz squads, a Warboss, and a battery of the Ork plasma guns, right?
And yeah, I picked Orks because a horde army would be a good match. I normally play Tau, and I know their rules well enough that I can't really help but play better; Orks are one of the four armies I don't collect (waiting for new models), so we're essentially playing on similar experience ground.

>>50961641
Unfortunately, he's a wehraboo. I can't help it. He's a Steel Legion fan if it helps, though.

>>50961664
faaaaaaaaaaaaaar better

>>50961560
I imagine if Cadia is actually going to be lost to Failbadon, I don't think it's going to be quite so catastrophic. Chaos would claim the planet, Imperium & Friends would fall back, but Chaos would have gotten hit hard enough that their victory is pyrrhic. Maybe it gets Exterminatus'd. Remember what happened in the Tau v. Imperium books; in the end, bunch of gits died, but little to no progress was made.

>>50961686
>he's a wehraboo
I'm so sorry.

>>50961720
Dude's been my friend for the better part of a decade, and I used to be one, too. I don't judge.

My Guard is Krieg.

>>50961675
It's awkward, since anyone not spamming Drop Melts, Grav, or Haywire can still struggle against a wall of AV14.

Fuck TG im conflicted,

So i decided to start building a chaos force to go with my Deldar force so I can participate in the coming campaign. Just picked up some chaos space marines and decided to go with night lords for my faction and have a few questions.

What special weapons should i equip my chaos space marines with? and an i paint my night lords another colour besides the traditional GW ones and get away with it? They would still be blue just a different trimming

>>50961761
Melta if CC, Plasma if objective squatter.

Paint them however you like.

>>50961761

>So i decided to start building a chaos force to go with my Deldar force so I can participate in the coming campaign

You fucked up, son.

Deldar would NEVER ally with Chaos. Ever ever ever.

>>50961785

Sorry thats kinda confusing, I picked them because Deldar probably won't be in the campaign that much compared to Chaos so I would rather have a force that can participate more often.

>>50961761
>besides the traditional GW ones
What traditional, GW's changed that several times over. It started out as a bronze, and has slowly become just plain gold over time.

chaos warbands aren't exactly standardized. Paint what you want. if you remove the lightning bolts I'll cry, though.

>>50961812

why do you like those fucking lightning bolts so much?

>>50961686
Damn Shame! I personally went with an American Aesthetic. Both because I had seen Fury and wanted to reenact the assault scene from that move on the tabletop, and because at 1500+ points the Leman Russ's durability starts to resemble actual Shermans.

I don't regret my aesthetic choice as it's still less common than the usual Wehr-Brit-Grey trio of themes you typically see. But I would probably has chosen differently had I recognized the similarities earlier.

>>50961834
because they're cool

batwing helmets are also mandatory

>>50961848

Leman Russ tanks are more like Tigers though in terms of capabilities. Predators are the Imperium's medium battle tank, but for whatever reason the IG can't take them.

>>50961671
>>50961684

lmao I just re-read the soul blaze rules, it requires a wound to go off, so it does nothing vs most lists in kill team

time to change to a different skill I think

>>50961866

I disagree. The only Russ that really resembles a Tiger is the Vanquisher. What's crazier? The Shermans had primitive stabilizers that let them fire on the move if they were slow about it. Almost like a certain lumbering behemoth! If we look at the late war Jumbo we even get heavier-than-tiger 114mm angled armor (Not that it would matter against an 88). So, at least for the era I was shooting for, the Leman Russ actually does share more elements with a Russ. Also, they fall like flies in larger point matches.


Nerd Nerd Nerd, Nerdy Nerd, Treadhead Nerd. Shutting Up Now.

>>50961978

Interesting, thanks for sharing, /k/ friend.

>>50961866

I think the Predator was meant for the Astartes and Astartes alone.

Plus, why would they ever want a Predator when they can have access to more powerful vehicles?

The basic Leman Russ has is more powerful than the basic Predator isn't it?

>>50961978
>The only Russ that really resembles a Tiger is the Vanquisher

And even then its closer to the Sherman Firefly or 76 or the Panther.

Moving on, what are we gunna theme the orks around? Are they going to be a specific clan, generic green horde, or something special?

>>50961978
At hight point matches, I feel the Leman Russ Vanquisher resembles the Firefly more so than the Tiger.

>>50962067
I think that the reason Astartes have Predators is due to ease of logistics. Its based off of the Rhino, Astartes use Rhinos, Rhinos and Predators share parts thus easier to maintain logistics for both vehicles.

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Am I alright with this list, or am I missing something vital?

>>50962067

The Predator probably has better targeting systems, but is lighter being a converted Rhino. I'm not suprised the Astartes love something that can go faster and fire more accurately, as well as be more easily deployed due to weight, and easier to maintain thanks to Rhino comparability.

Meanwhile, the IG are an army of attrition. They need something strong instead of fast, and unleashes large blasts of hatred instead of pinpoint accurate fire.

>>50961258

You guys think the rumors of exodiites coming out in 2017 is true?

>>50962120
Everything is a beefed up Rhino. Like how they just change the weapons on a Land Raider and call it something different like Redeemer.

>>50962142
Not a lot of long range anti-tank weapons. Gotta bank on your Terminators not scattering for their 1st turn Deep Strike and hit them with a one time melta shot.
But the sorcerers should be able to cause enough trouble with their mind control.

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Rate my fluffy Alpha Legion list :^)

Alright here's my updated kill team, sans soul blaze:

Chosen:
Champion(Leader)
Heavy Bolter(Weapons Specialist: Reaping Volley)
3x Chosen

Raptors:
Champion(Indomitable: Feel No Pain)
Flamer
Guerilla: Promethium Charges
2x Raptors

It'll be fast and has lots of ways to kill hordes, it'll have trouble dealing with bikes though.

>>50962271

well memed

>>50962295
The dogs are actually Cultists in disguise.

>>50962311
And by disguise I obviously mean fursuits.

Power fists or Melta bombs for Zerkers?

>>50962237
Awesome, thanks. I feel like that Mind Control shit really helps newfags like me. If I forgot to bring anti-tank, I'm sure the guy I'm playing against has some I can borrow.

>>50962331

Meltaguns, because you ARE using the cheaper regular CSM profile with better options, right?

>>50962151
In fluff Predator is waaay faster and more mobile tank than Russ. The rules just do crapshitty job at representing it.

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Happy New Year, everyone

I'm excited for new things featuring the Black Templars, even if it's only an updated upgrade sprue, so I decided to start an army.

Here's my first dude I painted as a test mini.

>>50962351
Lucky enough jink saves don't hinder psychic stuff. Just. Are sure they don't get assaulted and mass fired. If you want them to live longer, try putting them with bikers.

>>50962376
Nice, would retake Jerusalem with him.

>>50962376

Looks good!

>>50962381
Well jink does affect them, but just witchfires.

>>50962376
His boltgun is fucking on point.
Bloody nice job.

>>50962355
...Yea. That's what I said: The Astartes love something thats faster and more accurate. Hence the Predator over the Russ.

As for the rules? I mean, Games Workshop seems to have written themselves into a hole here. The Predator can move 12", but the Russ tends to move more because it can shoot all weapons on the move.

It's also another reason I HATE Tau because their size-of-a-vehicle mechs can fire all their weapons on the move. And yes, Taufag, I know you're going to mention your superior technology again. Shut up. Please. You've mentioned it every goddamn time we mention your not-walkers, but for some reason you never explain why you never fit this special tech onto your Riptides or Hammerheads.

>>50962381
Would changing them all to termie sorcs and joining the Terminator Force units work as well?

>>50962376
My god. That paintjob is perfect. Literally perfect. As in "I cannot detect a single flaw nor identify any way of making it better", perfect.

Happy new year fa/tg/uys, may 2017 whipe out the Eldar scum and bring balance in the force!

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>>50961258
OP is giving old stuff with missing shit proper links for next general.

Have of my shitty models to bully. Enjoy

Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

Older stuff in PDFs:
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As current as the FAQs get
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

The Black Library (Eldar poetry is shit):
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List Builder if BS doesn't add enough bloat for you
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>50962469

lol manlet guardsman

>>50962469
those better be count as SoB

>>50962166

While it would certainly be great, I don't think Exodites are coming anytime soon.

I mean, wouldn't they just be CC Eldar with a mount or two? DEldar would be better at CC and their mounts would be shit compared to Wraithbone construcs so few people would play them.

>>50962496
So guardsmen?

>>50962504
Are we still hating on Female Space Marines? Nobody told me we were doing that again.

did they bring the (you) back for anyone else?

My new Kill Team (HoR) for Q1 2017. It should be interesting to see how this all ends up.
Have a nice new years everyone.

Commander
-Force Commander upgrade
-Power Sword
-Antarax Pattern Carapace Armour (4+ re-roll failed saves)
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1

5 Imperial Guard
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1

5 Imperial Guard
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1

3 Imperial Guard Veterans
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1
-Carapace Armour (4+)
-Camo Cloaks
-Snare Mines

3 Imperial Guard Veterans
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1
-Carapace Armour (4+)
-Camo Cloaks
-Snare Mines

1 Sergeant
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1
-Carapace Armour (4+)
-Camo Cloaks
-Snare Mines

2 Stormtroopers
-Death Korp of Krieg
-Stubborn
-WS+1
-Medic Training (6"FnP 5+)
-Smoke Grenades (Assault 1, Large Blast, Grants Shrouded)

>>50962534
Yep

>>50962562
thanks for the (you)

>>50962534
Nope, it was only brought back for (You)

>>50962504
This count as SoB, why they look so shit? Well Vallejo primer ate the plastic, that was my unskillful attempts to save the models.

Most of the time they count as SoB, others as Acolyte with power armor or caparece. On very rare occasions as marines when I feel like an ass and trigger people, that are known to throw a tantrum regarding female marines.

Thoughts on the following list? Its for our first tournament of the New Year (held tomorrow).

Eldar CAD
>Farseer - Spirit Stone of Anath'lan, Singing Spear
>Autarch - Skyrunner, Banshee Mask, Laser Lance
>20x Guardians - 2x Starcannons, Warlock
>3x Windriders - 3x Scatter Lasers
>Wraithknight - Glaive and Shield

Dark Eldar CAD
>Lhamean - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannon
>5x Warriors - Blaster, Venom w/2x Splinter Cannon
>5x Warriors - Blaster, Venom w/2x Splinter Cannon
>4x Reavers - Cluster Caltrops, Arena Master w/Power Sword

Eldar Raiding Party (Sky Burners)
>Corsair Prince - Cloud Dancer, Void Sabre, Shadowfield, Reaper of the Outer Dark
>Corsair Baron - Cloud Dancer, Forceshield
>3x Cloud Dancers - 3x Scatter Lasers
>5x Reavers - 2x Fusion Gun, Felarch, Venom w/Shruiken Cannon, Scatter Laser, Void Burners
>5x Reavers - 2x Fusion Gun, Felarch, Venom w/Shruiken Cannon, Scatter Laser, Void Burners

Farseer joins the Guardians - they're basically objective baby sitters who actually hit hard and the Farseer can act as a force multiplier. The Autarch and Prince join the Reavers as a mini deathstar.

>>50962353
+3 charge range, WS5 and Fleet is worth the points IMO. Now answer the question

>>50962435
Does work, and I believe the psykers don't have to be in coherency or on the board at the same time to use their mind control. But you lose out on psychic test dice.

All depends on what the other guy is bringing so make sure you place them somewhere good on the map because you're still using their melta weapons for a good cause.

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Will that shit work?

>>50962684
Maybe heavy weapons teams with lascannons?

>>50962376
I dig

People tend to go crazy with tabards and shit, templars are nicer when they're kept spartan.

>>50962622
Post a pic of your army please.

>>50962675
Coherency is not required, since they aren't a unit, and the Shroud of Deceit specifically states that you select one model to cast it. Any other members of the Cabal only add Psychic dice (as long as they are within a foot of the chosen model) and offer no other effects.

>>50962684
I dont know my dude, I want to prioritze mobility and abuse the two shooting holes in the chimeras.

>>50961707

My theory is that once Cadia falls, Abbadon's little crusade is going to fall apart, since even at the best of times Chaos is still fractious. Once the objective of the crusade has been reached, I could easily see all the various warbands deciding that now the entire Imperium is wide open to them that they'd rather go and raid and pillage where-ever they like rather than continue on to the the next most heavily defended system in the Imperium. Fits the fluff, lets them draw out the campaign longer and also allows the consequences of the Fall of Cadia to be spread to just about anywhere in the Imperium.

How bad are mould lines on Sisters of Battle?

I wanna know how much metal I should expect to file/scrape off.

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This is my color tester. How does this color scheme look?

>>50962781
it looks nice but you could shave off that moldline on the leg

>>50962761
As long as the Cadians get something out of their demise. Anything, really. Like, "Random Guardsman manages to jab his bayonet into the back of Abbaddon's knee while Abby was slaughtering the rest of his squad, and Khorn was so angry that the Chaos champion let a lone man through his defences during his rampage that it becomes a permanent wound. Abbaddon loses 1 inch from all move, run, and charge distances."

I would gladly give the whole planet if we left even a mark on Abbaddon or Chaos in general. But we probably won't.

>>50962761
Abbadon keeps a tight leash on his forces though. The Black Legion dwarfs most warbands he brings with him on the Crusades. The original Traitor Legions and their champions come with him, but they're a small force with the rest chilling with their Primarchs or Daemon Worlds.
Anyone looking to break away from his force to pursue other agendas will be easily brought back or destroyed with Abbadons' elite.

>>50962781

It'll look great once it's cleaned up and you add in some black.

>>50962858
i want abby to lose atleast one arm in canon

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If Cadia falls its gonna be the gayest shit ever. I mean, yay plot progression, but fucking hell, they`ll probably kill off like half of guard ICs and the fact that Abbadon the Armless wins something makes me... uneasy.

>>50962863
Yeah my airbrush was giving me trouble. Might be time for a deep clean

>>50962895

Ghazzy shows up and rips Abbadon's arms out of their sockets.

>>50962927
>fall of cadia
>first book isn't even about IG
that's what pisses me of

>>50961499
Probably a similar question. I have DA, about to play my first Kill Team game.

I can bring a 10 man tac with sarge who has power sword plasma pistol, a guy with plasma gun, and a guy with plasma cannon.

Or a ravenwing command squad - 3 knights, one with champion and a second squad of stock bikers.

I would assume the tac would fare better based on the extra boys, but I don't know how it plays when every one is it's own unit. The bikes seem like they may be better.

You guys think the shading Duncan used for the Corvus Blackstar (the brown wearing kinda shade) would look good on Black Legion foot soldiers?

>>50962927
>"You can't take Abbadon seriously, he always loses! What a terrible character."
>"Wait, he's gonna win? Gay!"

IGfags, please, don't do this. You guys have always been pretty cool.

>>50963012
>implying it won't be about IG
for the first five seconds, before they get stomped and have to be saved by other factions/newer models

>>50963061
Its just a meme with Abbadon, but the fact that a planet that endured so much, produces one of the best soldiers around and has REALLY cool fluff is gonna fall... I mean, plot progression is a thing but it still pains me that they have to kill the cadian boys off. At least my regiment just orginated from the Cadians, so they gonna survive. There`s that.

>>50962166
No. I expect them to shake up the setting in some significant ways, but I do not expect them to have the Galaxy swallowed by the Warp.

"The Gathering Storm" sounds a long way from "The End Times".

Why even have plot progression, 40k was always a setting not an ongoing story.

>>50963111
I get that. At least Cadian players can give a slight refluff of "Oh, my dudes were fighting somewhere else when it happened and now they're pissed and want revenge."

I think it's good for the setting, honestly. Makes the whole "Long War" thing feel like something happening now rather than 10k years ago.

Growing pains, anon, that's all it is. We'll tough it out.

>>50963091
So far we know SOB , inquisition, AM, chaos and tarzyn are involved
Ig hasn't even been mentioned once whihc is kinda shitty cause it would have been an ideal moment to give some love to a faction that has seen alsmost no updates for a while now kidna sucks
the first book should have been chaos vs Ig , the second book should have been about the reclamation crusade

>>50963141
As long as it doesn't ever end, I don't see a problem.

>>50963012
No kidding. But maybe we'll get sme new IG heroes out of all this. A new tank commander could be cool.

>This Tank Commander is no better a shot than any other, but his tactical expertise is legendary. One time he and his platoon destroyed an entire company of traitor marines, using knowledge of terrain to catch them in a bog. Suppressed by the Russes' many guns, up to their waists in mud, and devoid of effective cover, over 100 of Abbaddon's mightiest were reduced to nurgling food.

>BS4, but no crack shot. Can issue bring it down, fire on my target, and suppression fire in addition to regular tank orders. Warlord Trait is Outflank.

I guess that's about as awesome as killing a Titan. But you get the picture. This guy is the Command-y TC to Pask's Shooty TC.

>>50963033
basic marines are very good in HoR. also bolters are very good.
I'd drop the plas cannon and some marines for a biker

>>50962781
The gradient is cool, Very EC overall. But it's in dire need of some cleanup and shading.

>>50963061
you mean when he waters down rhinox hide. I think it might look decent on a foot soldier would have to give it a test to see how it really turns out tho.

>>50963141
Because having a setting be (largely) unchanged for that long is boring. It always has and always will be boring.

>>50963220
The universe is big enough that they could continue telling stories forever without advancing the timeline.

>>50963363
You can only repeat "Bad thing about to happen" stories for so long until it becomes pointless and boring.

Sure you can do things like the Horus Heresy or War of the Beast, but it doesn't really do much for the story as a whole.

>>50963144
I dunno. I feel like they'll not do anything to invalidate anyone's army. They'll found Cadia Secundus or something.

Same thing with this rumor about chapters switching sides. If my guys all of the sudden played for he other team I'd be pissed.

>>50963363
I don't need a theoretically infinite amount of stories, because 90% of them are going to be shit.

Even if 99% of these stories end up as shit, that's still less shit than 90% of infinite shit.

>>50963399
>They'll found Cadia Secundus or something.

There are Cadians everywhere, they've been pumping out regiments for thousands of years, as well as Cadian pattern equipment, which other non-Cadian guys copy.

There's no way they'll squat cadan guardsmen, they may or may not make them generic guardsmen, but that's about it.

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Guys I really want to play this game.. I built an army but everytime I look at the shop I get anxiety about going in and saying hi.. (I ordered all my figures online)

Has anyone here overcome this? How do you go about playing a game with one other person?

>>50963437
Go in and get over it once you realize it wasn't as bad as you thought it would be.

>>50963437
stop being dumb and do it, faggot

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Are your wallets ready?

>tfw GW has killed my wallet and paint scrubbing used models in one stroke

>>50963468
Why isn't this tactical box for BA? why do they get the one with the rhino? i mean aren't they suppose to be the more assault oriented army?

>>50963468
I play Sisters, my wallet is (mostly) safe.

>>50963480
blood angels can use generic tactical marines, m8

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>>50961258

>New IG Armoured fist set
>I can get the Neophyte Hybrid Armoured Claw for the same price and get a genestealer cult upgrade sprue to pawn off for the same price

Okay.

>>50963498
yea but then i gotta buy additional shoulder pads along with the box.

>>50963518

You should already have a lot in your collection, BA mong

>>50963518
transfers, freehand

you don't gotta buy anything, just paint them red

>>50963527
>>50963524
let me bitch you bastards

>>50961560
>Black Templars
>losing to chaosfags

>>50963565
>This is the way they in game kill off all the Black Templars thousands of members
Im ready

>>50963562
no

>>50963437
>I built an army

did you paint it?

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Ayy lmao, here's my first guy ever he ready to BLAP BLAP some xenos niggaz.

JUST purge my shit up s e n p a i.

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Post yfw Abaddon is about to claim victory at Cadia and Ghazghkull comes out of nowhere and headbutts him.

>>50963663
By the way the guys in the back are less finished than him. HE DA SGT MANE. He a true nigga so I painted his ass first, ya seen?

>>50963675
decent freehand

>>50963672
>Abaddon about to claim victory
>Castellan Creed leans back in his chair
>"Activate it."
>it turns out Cadia is actually a Necron Tomb World
>entire legions of necrons emerge from nowhere and slap Abaddon's shit
>CREEEEEEED

>>50962537
Kriegers should be nerfed a little bit. Stubborn and +1 WS is a bit much if you ask me.

Is the Ravenwing Strike Force actually any good, or would I be better off just doing a CAD and paying the troop tax?

>>50963786
yea they sure run rampant around the community dont they

>>50963663
>my first guy ever
I don't believe you.

>>50961456
>Story progression is going to be glacial and unsatisfactory - look to Horus Heresy and despair

I'd rather this than it all be done in a year then the whole thing gets deleted.

>>50963797
I'm 100% uncertain about if you're being serious or joking.

>>50963713
I have transcended...to the next level!

I am...STRATEGIC GENIUS!

>Special Rule: Strategic Genius
If Creed is still alive, automatically summon 4 full Necron Warrior Hordes at the end of your 5th turn. They are all allied with Creed.

>>50963663

>painted the shoulder emblems

thats cute

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>>50961364

Vostroya will succeed you.

>>50963575
Templars are too reminiscent of white oppression. SJGW must kill them off.

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>>50963875
Your trust is misplaced. Boys in Blue will succeed even the Space Cossacks.

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>>50963875
Nyet, Comrade, vill be glorious Valhallan Ice Varriors. Cyka Cossacks fuck off.

>>50963890

>2 women

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>50963881
i swear i will lose myself if we start getting white oppression shit in my grimdark

>>50963910
It's pretty common in 40k to induct women as well. It doesn't matter how good you are or how strong, as long as you say and squeeze a trigger. They just want your body to block lasers and bullets for tanks and more important people.

>>50963925

Women are icky! Keep your realism out of muh 40k

>>50963910
>Getting mad about women in the IG
like in Space marines i understand because lore but im certain there are plenty of female gaurdsmen
Nice bait bro

>>50963910
sex and color and creed doesn't matter in warhammer, they're all treated equally.
>>50963972
If it was realistic by todays standards, there wouldn't be any women serving, because torture is more commonplace and there isn't mass conscription/training.

>>50963925
but women can produce more meatshields.
so why use them as meatshields

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Quick /tg/ you have 30 seconds to think of two unique units for your favorite codex. Mine would be DE

1) Power Sword splinter pistol kabalites with the ability to assault from their transport or assault other units in their transport to draw them out

2) Bounty hunters that can be a choose your own unit of Humans Kroot and CW Eldar that are paid by the Archon to do something, they get Splinter Weapons or some more exotic stuff

>>50963992
because there are a near infinite amount of women, and a near infinite amount of bodies to throw on the pile to protect humanity.

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>>50963565
>implying they aren't literally worse World Eaters in the fluff
There is angry and then there is Khorne angry.

>>50963993
tyranid version of creep giving movement bonuses and synapse
thats about the only other thing that can be added to nids cause they have like 30-40 units

>>50964010
but that doen't exclude the basic logic.
>but I like lady commisars as much as the next person

>>50963061
I guess the problem is that with all the previous situations where a faction with only one source of recruits has been under threat, it's all blown over and everything was fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. Case in point being Fenris literally just magically fixing itself after supposedly being BTFO for all time.

Cadians come from Cadia, if it and the local system fall, then they are just gone. They're not SM who can pack up their stuff and live on ships, their casualty rates are too high for that kind of thing to work.

Once Cadia falls, people playing 95% of IG armies are playing with models who belong to a dead faction. And that feels bad man.

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>>50964018
>until angry marines are canon

BT do need something like a decurion or something, they are fucked because crusaders cant count as tacs for formations

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>>50963993

Imperial guard

1) IG radio controlled aerial drone ala the Cyclops

2) Ratling engineers filled to the brim with demo charges

>>50963503
As long as you're okay LITERALLY SUPPLYING XENOS HERETICS.

I'm telling the Commissar.

>>50964010
If your population is busy getting killed in war then those who haven't been conscripted yet would be too afraid of having children, thus nuking the birth-rates and making your supply of bodies not be infinite anymore.

>>50964036
the basic logic is that conscription doesn't care if you're female or male when your world is at stake. If earth came under attack you sure as shit would see lots of females signing up. They won't just be sitting at home waiting for the next kid to pop out.

>>50963910
Mordians are hardcore. She would dom you and kill heretics at the same time.

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>>50964040

Stupid idiot all the Cadian regiments in the galaxy aren't sitting at 99% casualties.

There are countless Cadians sitting in garrisons, sitting in fleets. There are countless planets colonised by Cadian veterans after a successful campaign who brought their Cadian culture to a new world and are absolutely Cadian in everything but name. There are countless worlds that ape the military tactics and uniform dress of the Cadians.

CADIANS. ARE. NOT. GOING. ANYWHERE.

FUCK YOU

>>50964059
but I thought they had infinite bodies?

I'm kidding that makes sense

>>50963925
>It's pretty common in 40k to induct women as well.
Not super common. It'd probably be closer to russia's level of female military members/units. Existent, but comparatively less so than the men.

It's space great war/second world war. That's why you see mostly dudes.

>Tau as Draenei
Someone broke the suggestion to me and I need it now. I asked in /wipg/ as well, but does anyone know if any companies sell heads that would work, or am I gonna need to greenstuff some?

Need help with a Kill team HOR 250 pt list, first time player here

250 Points

1 Cryptek - 55
Chronometron - 25
5 Deathmarks - 90
1 Capnotek Scarab - 20
3 Tomb Blades - 54
Shieldvanes - 6
TL Tesla Carabines - Free

The idea would be to snipe the enemy units at long range while enjoying the +3 & +4 RP rolls against wounds, and if they bring in ap we still have the +5 inv save. Meanwhile the tomb blades use their high speed to quickly get in range of the enemy leader and hope to get a 6 with the twin linked tesla in order to quickly gas the enemy leader. The scarabs are there only to be used in Los! rolls (not sure if beasts can be the target of that) and avoid the cryptek getting one shot by a psychic shriek or something. I think this strat is pretty weak against melee and blast/grenades (eventually the rolls are gonna start failing) but i still wanted to hear any advice or tips to play/improve this list

>>50963672
To those who don't get it this exact thing happens to Archaon when Grimgor comes out of nowhere.

>>50964084
I'm not saying Cadians are going to be Squatted, but those existing regiments will rather quickly be whittled down to numbers below minimum combat effectiveness and regiments raised from the newly colonised planets don't bear the name of the soldiers that colonised them, there is no precedent for that.

The Tanith First and Only are a prime example of this, it it was a simple as claiming dibs on a planet's recruits for your regiment, they would be the Tanith First of So Many Fucking Sneeki Breekis.

>>50961468
>>50961518
>>50961531
Honestly, I'll be amased if the Sisters get even a paltry several or so pages with the exception of Celestine.

>>50964157
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>50964117
heeeeeeeeeeelp

Wait my new question is what are nids getting out of the Gathering storm? nids coming to nom on the chaos planet thats left?

>>50964188
kill team is casual as fuck, HoR included

You've got ten dudes, a mix of equipment, and some fast movers. You'll be fine.

>>50964040
>people playing 95% of IG armies are playing with models who belong to a dead faction

I don't know if the current IG Codex mentions it, but one of the older ones - probably the book that came out after the plastic kit was released - mentions that a lot of Regiments base their equipment off the Cadian standard. Since it's simple enough to produce in mass amounts and proven effective.

Quickly name 5 tyranid units that should be removed/merged
codex, FW, white dwarf
>haurospex
>malanthrope
>harpy merge with crone
>mawloc merge into trygon/prime
>exocrine

>>50964145

How quick is quickly? Post the number of Cadian regiments. Post their attrition and recruitment rate. You talk a lot of shit but there's no basis for any of it.

The space wolves lost half their chapter during the wrath of magnus but they are still operational. The writers don't sweat this kind of shit and neither should you.

>>50964180
I see I touched a bit of a raw nerve here.
Do you want to show me where, on this doll, GW touched you?

>>50964045

They're practically guaranteed an update if the rumors about Saint Celestine's new box set is true.

>>50964010
I never got this. More boys are born but less survive to sexual maturity. Why are women more valued for reproduction in a numbers game?

>>50964213

>SWARMLORD
>SWARMLORD
>SWARMLORD
>SWARMLORD
>SWARMLORD

>>50964213
>exocrine
Fuck you

>>50964206
thanks, that´s the only answer i´ve gotten in 3 threads.
And yea, i know it´s casual as fuck, but down here in argentina it´s either that or not playing, since the minis will probably cost you a month´s salary or more, even the replica shitty ones

>>50964213
flying hive tyrant

>>50964213
>mawloc merge into trygon/prime
They do entirely different things and have different special rules, having a similar model isn't reason enough to smash them into one unit.

>malanthrope
Fuck off, Malanthropes are one of the few crutches keeping Tyranids in something resembling a playable state.

Meiotic Spores can go, just use them as alternate Mucolid models. Shrikes and Skyslashers can just be an upgrade for Warriors and Rippers respectively. Toxicrenes and Maleceptors can both be ditched because they have horrible models and awful rules.

>>50963789
?

>>50964219
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>50964222
Because unless women outnumber men 50 to one, the female side of reproduction will still be the limiting factor because a male is only needed for about 10 minutes of the process and will be back at peak efficiency in 5 days while a woman is needed for all nine months.

>>50964235
Casual isn't bad, it just means you don't really have to worry about shit too much. Paint what you like, have some fun.

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Why is he so based, bros?

>>50964217
I can only remember off the top of my head that on Cadia, each generation is a new regiment, and their generations are REALLY close together because of heavily regimented breeding programs (Can't remember the number they used, wont try to guess it) so Cadia pumps out guardsmen like nobody's business, because it has to. Even the most frugal of Guardsmen regiments has severe casualty rates because the shit the Guards is sent to fight is dangerous as fuck.

Sure Cadians aren't treated as bad as Vostroyans or Kriegers but that's because they don't have extreme guilt issues and so their commanders aren't generally as happy about giving suicidal orders. But it's still the Guard, where a 2000:1 casualty ratio is considered acceptable if you managed to grab that clump of dirt.

>>50964078
10/10 would pay to watch.
Would enlist to join in.

>>50964273

>Based
>Space Wolves still live
>Grey Knights are about to become a Space Wolves successor blob chapter
>nobody cares that Magnus wanted to make a point because Abaddon is about to march on Terra

>>50964273
>cuck who let half of his legion die to show how much of a good cuck he was
>based

>>50964269
also, twin linked gauss blaster or tesla carabines for the tomb blades?

>>50964227
well obviously all named characters, thats a given
>>50964232
just make biovores T5 and mucolid spores explode out of DS
>>50964239
no, they need to fix it so thats not the only thing worth its points
>>50964243
they should just do both at once
sorry I love malanthrope I meant maleceptor my bad.
and yeah, skyslashers and shrikes should just be upgrades, thats kinda how I'd like mawloc/trygons to be

>>50964273
>Be magic chucker
>No depth perception
>based

>>50964298
Why do you want to get rid of named characters.

>>50964290
>>50964293
>>50964304

t. furry space wolves

>>50964318
>t.
I'm revving my ree

>>50964329
Why?

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>>50964290

>failbaddon
>succeeding

lol

>>50964339

>>failbaddon

You have to go back.

>>50964337
For the "t." bullshit

>>50964347

Mad Chaosfag detected. Get ready to be BTFO once again.

Can't wait for the 14th Black Crusade, lol.

>>50961567
Paint everything bone/just off white. Paint chitin bluegray or leave it.
Wash most body in Agrax.
Wash vents/tongues Fleshshade or crimson.
Wash chitin in blue wash.
Wash teeth in nuln oil, highlight white if you want.

Its almost as easy as spray & dip necrons.

>>50964298
>thats kinda how I'd like mawloc/trygons to be

Which is a stupid idea, because they do different things on the tabletop. The Trygon is just a big beatstick, while the Mawloc is a harassment unit. Making the Mawloc's rules an upgrade for the Trygon means you'll never get full use out of your unit. Either you use it as a beatstick, in which case it isn't popping in and out of reserve chewing holes in enemy units. Or you focus on those abilities, in which case the points paid for the Trygon's more robust profile are wasted. You end up with a unit which is more expensive and less efficient.

>>50964312
because it doesn't make sense. lorewise its cool to have some legends and stuff.
but thats really not the point of the race. Hive mind is one and all, it is adaptation in biological form. all the chracters are like dna blueprints of expecally legendary nids from human rumors.

nids are supposed to be one being, so having any self consciousness from tyrands doens't make sense

>>50964255
This is the single worst force meme I have ever fucking seen. I'm 99% sure it's the same fucking guy every time. If he doesn't respond to this post with "BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAWHEEHAWWHEEHO" or any variation, I'll hang myself live on stream.

>>50964295
tesla isn't as useful in kill-team

that's the one with the chance to do extra wounds, right?

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>>50964367

Can't wait for you to cry about 'chaos wank', 'ADB' and 'how is failbaddon winning!?1' in the next general.

absolutely lovin' every laff

>>50964374
Combined Mawloc+Trygon

Trygon stats

terror from the deep rule identical to the Mawloc, except instead of going to deep strike reserve if there are any units left after it did it's thing, it gets moved and placed as Locked in Combat with that unit.

180 points

Would that work?

>>50964367
>Can't wait for the 14th Black Crusade, lol.
technically speaking this is the 14th black crusade

they're just calling it the 13th Black Crusade 2: Crusade Harder

>>50964374
you make it a cheaper unit that pops and harasses, allowing giant deepstrike portals and burrowing.
have it hit, form a hole, go back to reserves, repeat
have a unit attached to it that auto comes in through the hole formed

>>50964406
>in the next general

Why in the next one? Is something happening soon?

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>>50964273
>Based

>>50964435

Now this is pod racing.

So how good are flamer vets guys? seems like it would be cool to throw a group of them out of the back of a vendetta next to an enemy blob.

>>50964407
Right, so now we have a unit which combines the best of both units and costs less than the base Trygon. And I've yet to see a good argument for merging the units together anyway.

>>50964459
Kind if a waste of BS 4

>>50963993
Ork

Saboteurs that can debuff enemy vehicles during the game, proper kunning- Saboboyz

Orks that can play instruments to provide buffs to mobs of boyz like war drums, or like the guy from fury road, more like a mobile buff vehicle- Loudboyz

>>50961624
The Khan has gone native.

>>50964464

Exactly. The Trygon right now is horrifically overpriced and in need of a buff. Merging it with the Mawloc would do that.

I don't think they need to be merged either honestly, just made me think a bit on how it'd be handled.

HELP HOW DO I PAINT TANKS.

IVE ONLY PAINTED NIDS BEFORE AND NOW I HAVE THREE LEMAN RUSSES.

WHAT DO

>>50964474
Something "Goffik", say "Goff Rockers"?

>>50964497
>The Trygon right now is horrifically overpriced and in need of a buff.

Sure, I don't disagree, but making each unit better at fulfilling its given role makes more sense than slamming them together. The Tyranid codex isn't even the longest one around, so if people want to cut down on bloat, they should look elsewhere.

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>>50963910
>Not liking stronk Mordian womyn

>>50964386
But characters like the swarmlord are litterally just a nid that has been around for a long time so its strong and smarter than its opponent. it has autonomy but very little at that as the hive mind still direct it where to go.

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>>50964273
Sorry, wrong one.

>>50964522
>yfw she's only crying because there's currently no enemies of the Imperium to kill in the immediate area.

Happy new year from argentina, Cocksuckers
may you be untainted by heresy

>>50964531
returning 4e player here. What the fuck, when did Tyranids get special snowflakes with individual thought?

>>50964499
Look up Duncan's video on the Taurox

Same shit applies

>>50964555
Well apparently only the swarm lord has some autonomy outside of being a mindless alien.

Anybody has a link to a Imperial Agents pdf or scan collection if there even is one at this time?

>>50964546
>tfw you run out of heretics

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>cleaning sprue lines off vehicle tracks
>mfw still half of them to go

>>50964613
It's in the OP under Freshest Rules.

>>50963993

Orks.

An Orkanaut sized Walker that is a Psyker Walker that generates D6 + 3 Warp Charges a turn.

An Ork Flyer that counts as Open Topped for the purposes of disembarking or charging once it has landed (or even if it's still flying in the case of Storm Boyz).

>>50964531
no swarmlords die, they are a pattern. just a tyrant with more detail and mass etc.
he isnt autonomous he is just a larger node of the hivemind. he is still just as much part of the hivemind as the smallest spore mine.

there cannot be nid heroes because they can be replicated until biomass depletes to make them. when one dies no memory is lost no real death has occurred, just a redistribution of mass and energy

>>50963195
Gradients are pretty easy to do when your airbrush is working with you and not against you. Honestly mine probably needs a good sonic cleaning.

>>50963195
Also how would you recommend doing the shading? I was going to paint the shoft armor black and hit that up with a highlight of dark grey, but interested in your opinion on the shading.

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>>50964640

Be strong.

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>>50964544
>Lore says he's supposed to be angelic and beautiful
>Not a single artist even manages to make him look human

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What would you guys recommend I add to my army?
I'm already thinking about grabbing some Wyverns,Punisher Pask and thread decided I was going to get some Rough Rides but what else would round my army out?
Also army pics. I like seeing what /tg/ has.

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Can someone give me a quick rundown of 7th? I dropped out when 5th released years ago, because of "G-Dubz, getcha hand outta muh ass-wallet"

I thought about buying some models to build a small Iron Warriors list from ebay/flee market just for funzies and noticed that there's some kind of Ally mechanic now? How does that work?

Could I, theoretically, play my Iron Warriors according to the Space Marine book and add 2 Basilisks from the IG book as my heavy supports?

>>50964687
That isn't Sanguinius fag.

>>50964691
>What would you guys recommend I add to my army?

color

>>50963993
IG
>>50963171
This one I came up with already.

#2) A Vox Network Tower Fortification. A platoon or company commander garrisoned in this structure may issue orders to anyone on the table with a vox, and has access to the vox reroll ability regardless if the commander actually has a vox themselves.

Would you guys be ok if a ran a devilfish with magnetised barracuda ax-5-2 weapons as a hammerhead?
stats for weapons are almost identical for the ion cannon and railgun.

>>50964700
Well fampai Iron Warriors now actually have rules again. All you need is the Traitor Legions supplement and you're pretty set.

Whats the go for heavy weapons squads? Seems like they would go best with autocannons since anti armour can be got through melta vets and tanks.

>>50964701
Gee thanks, I hadn't noticed.

>>50964691
New bases.

And get some Ulthuan grey on those tanks.

>>50964459
Use SwS instead.

>>50964700
all the rulebooks are in the mega links at the top (might need to search through multiple).

Iron Warriors "could" ally in Guard but it wouldn't be the best. Fortunately there is the Renegades and heretics list from Forgeworld's Imperial Armor 13 that is basically the same thing but for Chaos.

>>50964691
Looks like you need Chimeras but I swear you've had Chimeras when you posted here before.

Have you started thinking of air/anti-air support? Or maybe a centerpiece tank?

>>50964719
Sweet, how do they work now? Can I play 2 Basilisks and a two 10-squads with a Warsmith as HQ? Vindicators?

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>>50964708
Is red a color?

>>50964691
Valkyrie or Vendetta
Punisher
Sentinels
Priests
Bullgryn

Would be the ones I would suggest. I like to use the Vendetta with a Special Weapons Squad that has at least 1 demo charge. Punisher with Pask is amazing. Sentinels with Autocannons are nice units that always earn their points back either by being a target to hurting something. Priests make your giant blob better in close combat and make sure they don't run or fail stupid leadership tests. Bullgryn are bad, but fun, so that's why they are last.

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>>50961641

The Leman Russ is more of a combination of inter-war tank designs and the Mark V. Mainly the Mark V with a turret. Many inter-war tanks came with a hull mounted weapon (such as the Vickers series of tanks).

Here's the monstrosity that inspired the Baneblade, the Vickers A1E1.

>>50964687
I'd fuck him. No homo.

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>>50964747
It's a old pic there but I do indeed have two Chimeras.

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>>50964753
wtf is this guy doing ? cant you at least glue properly the feet ?

>>50964751
Link to it should be in the OP post if you want to check it out.

Apparently there's some formations that mix Black Templars + Cadians. That should be interesting.

>>50964788
He's shooting a Flying Hive Tyrant brah chill.

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>>50964117
I'm not good enough to give advice, but I can say this.

>>50964773
Guard player here.I'd fuck it.

>>50964753
what grays do you use, trying to do a Confederate Guard/Starship Troopers Army but its hard to tell what the paints look like IRL in the pictures on Amazon

>>50964798
Holy shit, I hope that's true.

>>50964817

The world would be less interesting without it...

But thank fuck they only made one.

>>50964788
You know if you used the "Gun Down" arms and use one of the yelling faces your could make it look like the guy was backpedaling in fear.

>>50964826
It's Eshin Grey on the armor,Administratum Grey on the fatigues.

I fucking knew it. Greyfax is going to kill Celestine, mark my words.

She was one who Trazyn released, an ancient Inquisitor and she is pissed about Celestine getting revered.

They hinted this shit in the GW stream, dammit.

>>50964840
Any other bizzare tanks you can share anon bro?

>>50964845
many thanks my dude

>>50964831
Too good to be true.

I'm expecting an Impirial Agent level of bad formations.

Like a crusader squad formation to make the old crusader squad. That level of stupid

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>>50964855
greyfax is going to kill my dick, you mean

Where can I download the Burning of Prospero painting guide?

>>50964881
I'm too drunk or too sober. Explain this

>>50964881
Are the hats on their dicks or some shit?

>>50964895
I want a dick sombrero, if they're available.

>>50964393
yeah, it´s that one.
i tought, since it´s twin linked and the tomb blades are relatively fragile, i should abuse the long range and the bikes mobility to spam the shit out of it if the enemy has squad units (these still are all considered a unit, so the extra hits are not wasted. Still, if you manage to land a 6 on a standard unit, chances are it´s gonna recieve 2 or 3 wounds, and save another one, so that´s also good

>>50963061
I use that technique on my Black Templar units, and I think it turned out great. Makes 'em look rough and weathered.

>>50964895
>>50964891
don't think too hard about it

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>>50964856

It's quite famous as far as Whacky Racers go but the Tsar tank has got to be the most radical design.

Other favourites include the Mark IX, which was the first APC and looked very much like a Land Raider with no sponsons and the Gun Carrier Mark I which... well fuck knows what it was supposed to look like.

Russian T-100 was quite strange and the Tortuga tank looked like something from Robot wars.

>>50964773
Yea, everyone says that. But look at the Char 1 again:

High Tracks
Thin Track Guard (if you spring for accessories)
Hull-mounted gun (if you spring for lascannon Then you especially close)
Too-small-for-multicrew-turret
Backsloped Frontal Glacius
High Lower Glacius
Massive Rear Engine
And, of course, the Char 1 was an interwar tank.


The similarities to the Mark V are purely the sponsons and track shape and even the track shape is wrong; the tracks would need to be entirely forward-sloped in order to take advantage of the track shape to cross wide trenches. The Sponsons I'll give you, but with the caveat that lots of Warhammer tanks, even those not going for an interwar aesthetic, have sponsons.

So you can talk about the early marks all you want, but I'm still convinced the Bis is the primary inspiration for the Russ, right down to the crazy-thick armor.

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Hey, anybody have any relevant news as ti when 8th is gonna drop ir any changes that It's bringing?

As a newfag to the game, what's my best option for a Deathwing army?

>>50964937
Same rumor as before, summer 2018.

>>50964937
Q2, much more simplified game, but not as far as Age of Sigmar.

>>50964937
We are still waiting for fall of Cadia shit. I want to know about the 5 new models rules. The rest I do not care.

Hope we get leaks before the 7th

>>50964408

>tfw in an endless recursion of 13th Black Crusade

>>50964899
>>50964855
>>50964944

Guys I'm scared, I got all these dubs in succession.

>>50964937
it won't happen until they conclude whatever shitstorm they start with warzone: cadia

>>50964940
Best isn't really a thing for Deathwing. They're a Terminator force, they kinda suck.

Maybe take a few on the side of Ravenwing or greenwing, but not on their own.

>>50964951
It is only the chaos gods looking over you. Probably tzeentch so i wouldn't trust it

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Newfag here, don't know what I'm doing. How does this look for a beginner list?

Have the Imperium and the Tau Empire ever allied with eachother?

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>>50964273
>Fucked literally everything for his species
>based

>>50964988
I'm sure I remember something about them fighting off tyranids together. Not on a large scale though to my knowledge.

>>50964982
Cut 2 Scatter Lasers from Windriders, replace with Shuriken Cannons.

>>50964925
Anon you are awesome. It's nice to find another treadhead on /tg/. The kv-3 I think Is a pretty great one too. It was basically three kv-1 turrets on the main body of the tank and when they all fired had a large chance of tipping it over.

>>50964988
Kais sorta works with the Imperium during the events of Fire Warrior.

>>50964691
Add some paint, basing, and post less pics of this trash.

>>50964928
The B1 and Mark IV had sex with a Centurion and the Leman Russ was made.

>>50964990
Skitarii are cute. CUTE!

>>50963993
Imperial Guard

Jump Pack melee Sentinels with a Heavy Flamer. Maybe make the Sentinels AP4 or AP3 on melee attacks. S6 or S7.

And make Ogryn Rending so there's a reason to take them over Bullgryn.

>>50964997
>>50965007
Cool stuff bros. I'm a fan of the Tau's aesthetics and it'd be cool to see the Tau jump in and help the Imperium some how (although it would never happen)

>>50964873
That would absolutely suck.

I hipe that we get a decent formation that is only templars, I don't want to be forced to run IG or SoB to get formation benefits.

>>50964891
>>50964895
It's a huge /v/ meme combining the tf2 hat craze with their unstoppable lust for dicks because they're fruity la-la boys and women.

>>50963480
Don't the angels get super charged engines

>>50965015
He's painted his shit, Anon. Leave GGA alone.

Where's your painted army and game pics if they're so much better.

Have a 1250 point tournament coming up soon and I'm thinking of bringing my new-ish White Scars army. Should I go Biker spam or more of a mechanized army?

>>50965015
suck a benis

>>50965036
Yes, all their shit is fast.