MTG EDH/Commander General

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Wow, the flavor text on this is awesome. Anyone else have anything neat?

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Fist for GOAT Giant

She's probably my worst commander but best deck

>What in particular sucked about it?
WotC built her precon as a trap: never go Full Giant-Tribal. She functions a lot better if you treat everything after her Keywords as flavor text and deck her out with equipmemt

>>50959257
As a house rule, we ruled that playing your commander from the commander zone shares the same effect as playing it from your hand.

Someone runs the Green One for a stompy deck.

>>50959343
>As a house rule, we ruled that playing your commander from the commander zone shares the same effect as playing it from your hand.
Hmm, neat. Any special interactions outside of the usual phage nonsense?

>>50959389
Not really. Just let's us simplify things and use the Myojin/Phage if we wanted as our commanders.

I can't think of anything where it's honestly abused. One dude has Phage as his general, but it's just a normal reanimator deck with Phage at the helm. I don't think he has any other mono black legendary creatures is why. lol

>>50959343
>>50959389
Possibility Storm would like a word with you.

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Not that she's a bad commander, but people usually hate my chaos aggro decks so I'll be hatefucked out of the game.

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Gimme the spice and no one gets hurt!

>>50959257
Would proliferate

>>50959417
House rule banned.

Yeah, I don't get it either. I came into this group maybe a few months ago. The commander thing is new but Possibility Storm/Warp World/Thieves Auction/Scramble Verse/ect are banned because "they make the game go much longer and everyone loses interest in the game". I mean I get it, but at the same time those cards aren't broken. I think someone was doing something stupid with a chaos deck at the time and made them all salty.

>>50959479
Knowledge Pool?

>>50959479
>I think someone was doing something stupid with a chaos deck at the time and made them all salty.
Which is the appropriate reaction, and meshes nicely with the commander rule change. Come to think of it, that could be neat as an official rule change.

>>50959493
Basically any card that causes confusion like those cards do. They wrote the list down somewhere, I just need to read it again.

Few other cards are unbanned. Sundering Titan, Primeval Titan, and Sylvan Primordial are unbanned. Deadeye Navigator is banned.

One card that isn't banned that fucks with the game a lot is Timesifter. Used it in Kozilek for the longest time before I dismantled it.

>>50959479
>>50959497
>banning possibility storm

Shitters, the lot of them. Find a new group.

They go out of their way to make their decks easier and then ban a simple card because they can't be assed deal with permanent.

This type of approach breeds stagnation.

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>>50959322
Always found this one funny.

>>50959340
These giant fetishes need to stop; first face sitting, now fisting.

>>50959547
>Sundering Titan, Primeval Titan, and Sylvan Primordial are unbanned
Jesus don't walk, RUN

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>>50959340
Why in God's name they didn't include Avatar of Fury in that deck is absolutely beyond me.

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>>50959949
The same reason they put this in: fuck you that's why.

>>50959949
They could have at least included some evoke dudes for an easy exp or two.

My group has no house rules and has so far been open to play with everything short of fast locks like Leovold, which I can understand. I appreciate my group.

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>>50959987
They gave us ingot chewer and the one that destroys a land, I think.


The 5Cmc Dash guy from khans block is probably the best recurrent way to get XP with her at a discount, sans proliferation schenanigans

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What the hell should I build with this waifu bait? I have extremely little experience with UG and her ability doesn't overtly point to any specific mechanics or archetypes

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Best 4color general. Every other 4c general was just lame

>>50960132
auto include mirris guile and chingchong top

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>>50960174
no

>>50960132
sylvan library

>>50960199
>Dies to breya
>Shit colors
>Does not go infinite
Lame.

>>50960230
Don't come whining to me when I naturalize your commander

>>50960132
I would go for ramp. big beasties supported by thassa and other unblock shenanigans

>>50960262
>not stealing commanders

>>50959732
Nah, it's actually alright. None of those cards are really that bad to us, and without Deadeye Navigator it hasn't been bad.

Less infinite combos tho.

So I want to make a blue (with others I guess) colour the gets out big stompy krakens, Oct', and leivithans. Little control, little this and that. Thoughts on Cmd'er?

>>50959257
>Worst Commander deck
8.5 Tails. I love the strategies in it to death and it wasn't a *bad* deck per se, but every deck at every table I've ever played at had either more powerful win conditions, better card advantage, stronger interaction, or combo'd off more reliably. Sometimes my deck was the worst at the table at all of those things.

It's fun on paper, but in practice getting curbstomped gets old quickly.

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>>50960360

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Ahoy maties! Are ye' looking for a life of adventure, riding the multiverse and plundering its treasures? Y'arg, then ye' be in the luck, for ye've been selected fer the crew of the damned. Join us on our adventures as we cascade into troves of booty, impress our foes into joining our vile ranks, and best of all loot the landlubbers! Our ultimate prize is the famed Aladdin's Ring and Lamp. But be warned, not all who set sail. Y'argh.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/le-capitane-yidris-et-son-equipage-des-damnes/

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Which of these commanders would you play?

>>50960360
there was a braids deck someone posted the other day that was basically exactly what you discribe, you might still find it if you look through archived threads

>>50960404
>angel spirit
>no flying
runo seems easy enuff to combo with

>>50960360
Momir Vig is also cool, he also gives you Access to all the ramp

>>50960404
None of them seem very good or interesting.
Also, you chose shitty tribes.

>>50960404
>Silara
Maybe. She seems more interesting than Atarxa.. Also, >>50960475 is right, she should have flying.
>Edlyn
No
>Runo
Yes, but that's mostly because this guy is busted as fuck. Run zero basics, maybe 50 creatures, and Hermit Druid, GG
>Ryfon
No, boring card
>Lychnus
Interesting, maybe. I don't think it needs the damage clause though.

>>50960404

Fuck off to your containment thread you troglodyte.

>>50960404
Lifegain ability in the only commander who is missing white. Why?

>>50960392
Yerr was thing this, but more RU with Jhoira, to get wheels and things like back to basics.
>>50960490
A friend plays Vig and I'm not a fan of him. Dumb cunt. (Card not the player). Any other ideas? Kiora seems like a plan with Vig and the whole GU.

>>50960392
cute
CUTE
CUUUUUUUUUUTE!

>>50959257

Is Mizzix more or less fun for a U/R general compared to Niv-Mizzet? No infinite combos in niv-mizzet though, and I do try to focus on spell slinging.

>>50960404
Your formatting really needs work, but I actually like Ryfon and Lychnus.
It's weird that your Pirate has White in her color identity, though. It doesn't really make much sense and I don't think it fits her ability that well either. Also, don't put flavor text on cards that already have that much text.
Runo doesn't look like he's flying in the art, which is weird. Silura has the opposite problem. Maybe give Runo menace instead.

>>50959479
House bans tell you a lot about a group. Usually that they're at least a little bit shit.

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>>50960475
Yeah I honestly don't know how I missed that.
>>50960520
Boring maybe, but Treefolk need something other than Doran and Colfenor. I felt like Pirates would be a good theme for a looting commander, and I thought a Vampire/Zombies dude might be neat. The other two admittedly took like 5 minutes to figure out, so that might be why they're boring in comparison, especially Ryfon.
>>50960549
And a nip nong ching chong to you too, young lady.
>>50960558
There are several black vampires with lifegain-related abilities. I felt it wasn't that far off the spectrum.

Gonna go take >>50960548's advice and tweak them some more, maybe post them next thread or in /ccg/

>>50960230
>shit colors
Anon, they share 3/4 of the same colors

Reccomend mesone insane chaos red cards.

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So I'm working on a K&T enchantress deck, and would like some ideas on anything spicy I could do with four colours. I'm already thinking enchanted evening+opalense+aura thief+vicious shadows for a win con, anything else janky and weird I could do?

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>>50959257
>What is the absolute worst commander deck you've ever built?
"Ever" is a really boring way to ask this question. It was Patron of the Nezumi rat tribal. Basically just a pile of 99 black cards that I took to my first ever EDH event.

The worst deck that I currently play, which I think is a much more interesting question, is Sedris, the Traitor King "phasing tribal". Basically it's built around abusing Unearth to keep things for longer than one turn. In reality I don't unearth much and it's just cool cards I like that are all Grixis colors. It's got some spicy ones, though. Magosi the Waterveil, Teferi's Isle, Synod Sanctum, Gilded Drake (actually spicy). I also threw in Worldgorger Dragon combo even though I can't really win with it easily. The one and only time I actually won with it involved a lot of Mindclaw Shaman triggers and luck

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>>50959257
To be fair, pic related is pretty much auto include in every Myojin deck.

>>50960392
Built a deck utilizing her to get out big beefy sea monsters with islandwalk for my campus playgroup.

...it wasn't good.

>>50960638
Eh really? That art... Not really cute stuff... More... wangy school girl.

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>>50961021
>wangy school girl

>>50960404
the pirate cuz she looks cute

What commanders should I be looking at if I want to build Mono white, red, and green?

I like enchantments for white, I want a massive explosive weenie rush for red, and green might just be straightforward ramp good stuff.

>>50961021
>>50961056
Futa yo

>>50961329
Omnath Locus of Mana is too easy. Literally, it's playing with an infinite mana cheat.

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According to EDHrec (which, eh) this is still only played in 2% of Kaalia decks. Now, I'm not a fan of the typical Kaalia deck but I still maintain that this card is pretty sick. I emphasize ETB pretty highly so maybe it honestly isn't as great as I think but there's a lot of really fun plays you can do with it.

Get Karmic Guide from hand and Rune-Scarred Demon from graveyard. Tutor something with Demon, bring back Sun Titan, revive something. Attack, Karmic Guide dies, return Demon to hand.

Or, Angels of Despair and Serenity. Exile three creatures and attack with a 5/5. Seems sweet.

The dream is to somehow Ninjutsu Ink Eyes (my much looser and more personal secret tech for Kaalia) to get back the creature that's going to your graveyard.

>>50961021
>school girl
>not cute
Are you serious?

>>50961367
>obligatory "traps are gay" post

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>>50961471
ur wrong.

>>50960813
Probably all my decks are jank to you guys. I like them though.

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>>50961492
Jank with a purpose and the ability to win is fun. I've also got an Iname deck that tries to combo with Conspiracy but mostly just plays big black mana cards.

>>50961367
>>50961021
Blue Braids is a human wizard (female) and she is cute!

>>50961517
All my jank has purpose. It's just I don't have some of the classic win condition cards experienced players might know about yet and I win a little less often than I'd like. I've only been playing for a year and a half.


I'm slowly accumulating the stuff I need, but now have to decide if I want to get the even more expensive cards to replace some of the ones I bought to keep up in my meta and I'm really not so crazy about that.

Basically I've taken a more economical route on most card buy decisons (poor man's versions when possible), and it shows in my win ratio.

I played LCGs first so it's hard for me to justify spending 40 bucks on the planeswalker I need, much less 4x of a $25 card I would want. This is also why I don't play standard.

>>50960787
I'm running something similar, but with more MLD/Pillowfort. Enchantress is there for more of a means to an end.

I'm planning on utilizing lands for this. Swans + Chain of Plasma to draw my deck, Borb V.2 to chuck them at people, with Wheel of Sun and Moon to flip them over.

I'm also running Wildfire and Destructive Force because 90% of the time I'm always coming ahead thanks to KnT's big asses.

Rector + Omniscience is in here, obv.

I'm also thinking about Guile+Purph+Dovescape but unsure how to fit in them in.

>>50961471
Now Now, I said Futa. If you are going to miss quote me, Please then don't try and mock me with what you wrote, not I. As for what I wrote, I see nothing wrong with a trap or futa Braids, But i will need to find some new art.
>>50961388
She is still very... man-ish

>>50960404
>custom cards
I'll play a Triple lotus as my commander. It's an artifact creature for 0 manas, 10/10 that i can sacrifice to generate 10 manas. I also start first if he is my commander, and win the game once i cast. cannot be countered

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>>50961714
>She is still very... man-ish
What? No she's not.
Seriously, how? Here's a larger picture. Circle the "mannish" parts for me, please. Cheekbones don't count.

I know I asked this question last thread but I wasnt really quite clear with what I was trying to say:

I'm torn between 4 different color combos for a stealstuff deck. The four decks are
>Lazav or Mirko Vosk
>Tasigur or Leovold. I'm not impressed with Mimeoplasm.
>Anything Grixis thats not Marchesa or Jeleva. Tried them. Didnt like either of them.
>Sen Triplets

I've played each of them once but always taken it apart because I didnt really have the cards to support them back then. Now I want to try it once again now that I sort of "purged" most of my edh collection to just a bunch of cards stacked up and ready to be sleeved.

I want to atleast keep it Blue/Black since I want to run both Bribery type and Grave-Theft typea of effects. Along with Dragonlord Silimgar/Gilded Drake/Sower of Temptation.

I also want to find a wincon of my own since relying on other peoples wincons isnt the most reliable thing to do. The only things I can think of are Mindcrank+Bloodchief Ascension qnd the Leovold Locks.

Tl;dr I want to find a UBx that can utilize cards like Bribery, Expropriate, Diluvian/Sep Primordials, Rise of the Dark Realms.

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Anyone have any experience with this card at all? If you run a light land deck or are able to get rid of a lot quickly from your deck with something like Endless Horizons then wouldnt it be almost worth it to exile most of your deck to get a huge swarm real quick? I am considering it for my Hazezon deck since I already only run 33 lands, and the warrior part is right on theme.

>>50961782
Not him, but she's got a strong chin, strong jaw, flat hairline, and an adam's apple. The shoulderpads don't help. I can see it.

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>>50961659
This is a bit vague, but in general taking cheap replacements for expensive cards is a worse route than just finding a strategy that's cheaper. But one thing I do like about EDH is building up decks over time, not just evolving them but finally getting that one card that upgrades it. Finally managed to get an All Hallow's Eve for Iname a while back which was really sweet.

>>50961811
>strong chin
I'll take that
>strong jaw
That's the same thing
>flat hairline
Que? What does a hairline have to do with it?
>Adam's apple
404 not found, that neck is pretty darn smooth pal.

>>50961811
>strong chin
Strong narrow chins are typically considered attractive in females, it's a result of high cheekbones
>strong jaw
Meh
>flat hairline
They're called bangs. Ask any girl about them, faggot.
>Adams apple
No she fucking doesn't. Are you blind? That's just shading of musculature which your neck is mostly made of.

Christ it's like /tg/ posters never actually interact with women.

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>>50961811
>not liking chin

>>50961329
For white I like Odric Lunarch Marshal. Jazal Goldmane, Avacyn Angel of Hope, or Jareth Leonine Titan can be pretty good too.

Krenko Mob Boss is really good for red but it's not very original

Omnath Locus of Mana is good for mono-green, when I had a Yisan the Wanderer Bard he was pretty fun too.

I wish gifts ungiven wasn't banned its cool.

Why do people like the new Avacyn? She seems utterly worse than the old one?

>>50962135
You mean Guardian Angel?
I knew a guy who ran her in Sisay legendaries. It's pretty good alongside Eight-and-a-Half-Tails, I think it was.

>>50962183
Pretty sure he means the one that flips.

Should it take longer than a week to build a deck, it once took me six hours to make a 60 card deck but this is rediculous

>>50961841
>>50961890
>This much defense.
Not him but she doesn't look like a woman. She is androgynous at best and the only giveaway to feminity is the braids. And the cheeks scream masculine. Would not approach in Thailand/10

Try naming feminine things about her.

what are some cool cards with effects that activate and trigger while in the graveyard?

>>50962497
>And the cheeks scream masculine.
Cheekbones aren't feminine.
>Try naming feminine things about her
Well, to snark a bit, there's her distinct lack of an Adam's apple for one.

>>50961329
Mono red tokens? You want purphoros my bro, not sure he's right for you? Here's an aptitude test.

On a scale from 1-10 how hard does your dick get from the idea of casting hordling outburst and dealing 6 damage?

>>50962554
I'd say that she has a small one or a very toned neck. It's not necessarily masculine, but it certainly isn't feminine either.

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>>50959340
>She functions a lot better if you treat everything after her Keywords as flavor text and deck her out with equipmemt

Then why not run Fabio as the general?

>>50962497
Her eyes are the giveaway

whats the most interesting doomsday pile you've ever seen?

>>50962731
Fabio doesn't have double strike

>>50962839
Yeah but the 8 power man.

>>50962453
>>50962183

Yea I mean the one that flips, Archangel Avacyn.

>>50962891
She seems kind of cool. I like her over OG Avacyn, but just because she's so fucking boring and I love ETB/damage triggers.

>>50962839
Voltron fixes that. Put an inquisitor's flail in his hand and go nuts.

>>50961806
>card depicts Godo
>doesn't make samurai tokens

>>50962731
Because I like soldiers.


Jor is also more of a 'go wide' commander and she scales harder for voltron

>>50962973
Double sword activations is pretty nice desu

>>50962995
Godo himself is a Barbarian.
The typing of Kamigawa was bullshit, they should have just made Samurai Knights because they're basically the same thing

>>50963119
And a million weeaboos cried out in outrage.

>>50963161
It's fucking true, mate. I even have a friend who was upset with me for saying so, citing her boyfriend's education in Japanese History. When we asked him he agreed with me so she dropped it, though. They're both warrior castes in feudal societies serving lords and maintaining a code of honor, just because one of them wears bamboo armor instead of leather or steel maille doesn't mean they're different enough in Magic terms to have different names. Theros didn't give "hoplites" their own type, so why samurai?

>>50960787
>Commanders No One Should Play Edition

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how come I never see this used? it seems stupidly powerful. I want to make an Animar morph deck just to play this

>>50963289
My mono red and black decks have been raped by this.

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So I went to FNM last night and got a promo Call the Bloodline. I'm in love with the aesthetic of this card. Vampire deck advice to make use of this card?

>>50963325
Olivia, Mobilized for War, all the beefing Vampires, Squee and some tutors.

>>50962476

I think to get something in a playable state should only take like 1-2 hours. But yeah, to make a good deck takes time and practice. And testing.

>>50962995
>>50963119
It would have been a mistake to make Godo a samurai. Japanese punchy guy does not equal noble who follows a martial code of honor.

>>50963248
But they did give it to naga for whatever reason. WotC is consistently inconsistent with this kind of thing.

>>50963325
I played it in queen Marchesa for a bit but cut it after a while, wish it was better

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>>50959322
I really like the flavor of Dictate of Kruphix

>>50962135
I love her aesthetically, even if she is just a worse Boros Charm. I kind of want to build her, but I don't want to pay standard all star price for a card that would be the commander of a designated shitty deck (I already have two of those). Maybe post rotation.

>>50962476
A couple hours if you know what you're doing. Maybe just buy a precon and make changes to it if you're new and deckbuilding is hard.

>>50963362
It's designed for limited. I suspect it's better in a b/g or Jund graveyard strategy than anything having to do with vampires.

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Who is bringing in the New Year with some EDH and drinks?

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>>50963541
I'm sitting on my own brewing decks :^(

>>50963541
can you have this and xenagos planeswalker out at the same time?

>>50963564
yes

>>50959257
>What is the absolute worst commander deck you've ever built?
W/R with every applicable legendary in the colors so I could switch the commander around, usually helmed by Iroas.

>What in particular sucked about it?
It was fucking W/R. I love the colors to death, but they suck in EDH. I'm doing the interchangeable commander thing a lot better with my Kozilek deck these days.

>>50961841 >>50961890
>>50962554 >>50962771
I didn't say she was a man. All I am saying is that she maybe a woman, who is packing meat. thats all. Kinda reminds me of Sorin or some one? I think i'll cheak the art dude's other stuff

>>50963661
Nope, in other art they can do woman. So maybe they dropped the ball on this one? odd

>>50963541
I wish. I havnt played a game in 2 weeks, starting to get withdrawl.

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all right EDH general, let's play a game of would you rather.

for the next commander precon decks would you rather

>have them all be class tribal focused commanders (e.g. knight tribal)

or

>no new legendaries, instead reprinting an underused legend for each color and printing new cards to give them some support.

or

>all 5 commanders are new gods, but from different planes than theros.

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>What is the absolute worst commander deck you've ever built? What in particular sucked about it?
Mizzix, but that's because I'm still building it and have trouble when it comes to the direction I want the deck to go and don't really play the color combination at all unless in draft. I really like cards like Radiate and Reiterate and copy spells in general but I also really like shit like pic related and wish there was a better way for it to work in UR. Controlling the board until I combo off into milling or burning everyone, while efficient, seems pretty lame.

Also fuck storm.

>>50963661
>some features kinda sorta look like a man
>definitely got a dong in the pants

You realize that's a bit silly right? There's a really wide variety of what people actually look like.

>>50963842
>>have them all be class tribal focused commanders (e.g. knight tribal)
Is the only choice that isn't complete shit, and is a really cool and good choice to boot.

>>50963842
this is barely a choice, give me a monk tribal commander

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Looking for feedback on this

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/papa-ginos/

Is there anything I should have in / cards that have better version I've missed, or any secret Tasigur tech?

Want to keep it pretty creature light or I'll just start jamming TnN Hoof and shit like I do with all my other decks.

>>50963661
like alesha?

>>50963868
>>50963915
okay fair enough, i was just trying to generate discussion, to be fair though i'd really like class tribal too.

in that case, what class would you want for each colors?
>white: we have enough soldier tribal but this is probably what it'd end up being, knight tribal would be dope, though that's split between W/B and they'll wait awhile to use the enemy color gimmick again
>blue: W I Z A R D S
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A
R
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>black: more rogue tribal would be pretty cool.
>red: warrior tribal for sure, if only so they can reprint boldwyr intimidator
>green: i'd be curious to see how they'd approach archer tribal for a commander product but it'd probably be druid or shaman tribal

>>50963848
just play big blue spells like Expropriate, Time Stretch, Rite of Replication, Blatant Thievery, Rise from the Tides. if you can't win like that then you combo off.

>>50964099
gotta be a combination of colors.

RBW Warriors
GRW Treefolk
???

>>50964162
treefolk is a race not a class anon.

>>50964173
oh shit misread it, my bad.

GRW Druids

gotta have the nature deck.

>>50964099
I'd like to see some of the secondary classes used but it's pretty hard to get away from Wizard for blue.

Could also pick 5, 2 color pairs. Not sure which ones but some ideas

WB: Knight
UB: NINJA
RG: Shaman
RB: Warrior
WR: Soldier/Angel
WG: Archer?
UR: Wizard probably

WU:
UG:
BG:

Pick 5 of those in some sort of pattern. Preferably enemy pairs because they're the best.

Warriors seemed fairly represented in black from a quick look but I'm not sure how deep that goes.

>>50964099
Problem with this idea is, as much as i like it, they seem reluctant to print more than 60 new cards in these precons and the tribes I'd be most excited to see would probably mandare 30 odd new cards per decklist because theres not enough tribal support or the cards that already exist are borderline unplayable.

>>50960005
My group is pretty cool
No house rules or anything except for one thing, if anyone manages to cast fifty Warp Worlds we just scoop. No point in playing it out, someone is bound to get their combo pieces off of it and kill everyone


If my group dislikes an archetype or deck or card, they focus the individual who's making the game unfun. Forces the guy to switch over to a new deck or continue dying very quickly

recommend me an angel wizard for my bant deck

>>50960360
Lorthos for flavor.

>>50960360
that's funny I just put whelming wave in my deck

>>50964263
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&type=+[%22Legendary%22]&subtype=|[%22Angel%22]|[%22Wizard%22]&color=+[W]+[G]+[U]+![R]+![B]

>>50961373
I use it in > muh dragons. It's one of my favorite cards tbqh

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Happy almost new year. If you feel like it, post some fun combos.

>>50964960
I feel like Amulet of Vigor is possibly better than Cobra in this instance and in EDH in general. Might just run both though.

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>>50964975
Yeah maybe if the artifact removal you're facing is weak, otherwise its a wash.

...and speaking of artifacts, heres an infinite turns combo featuring them.

Who is best landfall general?

>>50964207
>WB: Cleric
>WG: Knight
>WU: Tactician
>WR: Warrior
>UB: Ninja or Assassin
>UG: Sorcerer/Beastmaster/Summoner
>UR: Spellshaper/Arcanist
>BG: Shaman
>BR: Berserker?
>RG: Elementalist/Earthshaper

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>>50963541
Well, I'm quitting before midnight, but did some schnapps and MODO using pic related.

>>50963433
I am trying to change a precon actually

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Looking to build a blue voltron or unblockables and blue control deck based around this guy any auto includes and tips would be nice.

>>50960360
I just built Braids and it is fun as fuck. Probably the best "group hug" deck I've piloted, in my opinion.

>>50965152
Angry Omnath

>>50965152
The Gitrog Monster + Life from the Lome + landfall creature = good times

Looking for extremely annoying Red spells that aren't Goblin Game.

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>>50965152
If I tell you, you can't tell anyone, okay? It's a well kept secret...

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>>50959257
Noone has posted this ebin maymay.

>>50965674
So all you have to do to get a bland 3/3 for (1)BB is to put it in your hand then discard it and THEN cast it. And then do it over again to dodge exile effects

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So, presumably Monday will see a continuation of Aether Revolt spoilers. Any EDH-relevant stuff you are hoping/looking forward to?

I am, personally, very curious and eager to see Yahenni. I know that I am holding on to my Blade of the Bloodchief (which had previously been in trade binder) in case she's finally a vampire that might be interesting to play.

I am also curious about the rare land slots, anyone have any hopes/ideas? I have a bad feeling we might get more crap like the rest of the shadowland or battleland cycle.

>>50965496
Thieves auction, scrambleverse, warp world

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Yes, I know it is only effective against mono color decks and could actually help an aggro deck by the time you get it off.

I don't care, I just want to be bizarro Hitler and get rid of all the lebensraum.

>>50963541
For new year's I sat in a car for my security job and read that god emperor of dune book. My brain hurts, 150 pages is a lot to digest at once. Also, I brought my magic cards and built a bitchin ghave deck. Snowplows and dreams were my only company.

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Happy new year, lads.

What do you guys want this year? I'm wanting to rebuild my old deck with pic related, and I'm hoping Amonkhet brings neat Bolas shit, because I fucking love Bolas.

>>50966496
Got the list? I'm running Ghave atm but need some tech against a buddy's Yisan deck (thinking Lignify/Song of the Dryad's for Yisan and Praetor's Grasp for Craterhoof)

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For some reason this is the commander I play that my group hates the most, despite it being my weakest deck by far.

>>50966802
I want to build Wort Raidmother and Zurgo Smasher.

I already have 7 edh decks and I dont even get to play them all when I get the chance to play with my friends, so Im thinking 9 edh decks that I barely have time to play might be overkill.

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>>50966338
We can go deeper, Anon.
First run Glissa the Traitor as your commander, then replace Animate Land with Lifespark Spellbomb.
Now run Codex Shredder to recur Eradicate, and use Salvaging Station to recur the Shredder and Spellbomb.

>>50960285
>homeward path

>>50961752
My commander is 'As long as ~ is in the command zone, if you would lose the game, you win the game instead.'

>>50966941
I've got a buddy who plays Zurgo Helmsmasher, and it's pretty nasty. I've been on the wrong end of a turn 4 kill from him, and I've been in another game where he killed our resident Narset player turn 3.

When it's not going for fast blowouts, it's throwing down Jokulhaups and Wraths like they're going out of style.

>>50966291
There will be no rare land cycle. Perhaps a single land that has some utility to it.

>>50963842
desu I'd like to see more partner legends. It's a neat concept, but half of them I like, and the other half are kind of trash.

Also 3 color gods would be neato

>>50964207
WU: archons or angels?

>>50967236

Are you sure? I'm never keen on the numbers of rares/mythics in a set. But don't they usually have a few in the second part of a block?

>>50966923
I also have a medomai deck but I only play it in 1v1. I played with my group twice, and I got hated out once, and the second time she was taken control of.

>>50965426
Naw anon, you gotta
>Gitrog + discard outlet + dakmor salvage

We Kermit Druid bois.

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>>50965152
The Wild Bornberrys enable landfall pretty well.

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>>50966338
And heres another way to do it. Yay redundency.

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My friend said that this combo doesn't work for some reason to get infinite turns. Is he right?

>>50967670
No, it definitely does work that way. That's why Time Vault is banned in pretty much everything.

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>>50967684
I knew it. Also shouldn't the wording on the older printing make the card balanced?

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Some of the easiest infinite tokens available.

>>50967898
Warriors, come out and play....

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>Prossh player whining the entire game because everyone's ganging up on him
>still wins
>keeps whining

>>50959428
Her in Kazuul is great.

>>50963842
I've been wishing for

>no new legendaries, product focused on reprints

since the very first fucking commander decks.

>>50964207
I wish ninja were retconned into being rogues, and cards mentioning ninja would instead specify "creatures with ninjutsu" instead.

>>50963842
>>all 5 commanders are new gods
Fuck that. I already hate most of the gods with a passion.

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>>50966923
>someone casts medomai and I have a face-down vesuvan shapeshifter
>an opponent has no creatures in play so I'm free to swing at him
>mfw I time walk 7 times and everyone gets mad at medomai instead of me

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Does anyone have any experience playing Alesha hatebears? How much does one suffer from not having green?

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>>50960392
>>50960638

Nicest person you'll ever meet and...

>>50969293
Any reason why she is banned? She really does not look overpowered or gamebreaking

>>50969293
TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH

>>50969311
I'm sure a more experienced player could tell you, but just an offhand guess, EDH is a have fun format.

stax is not a have fun deck.

>>50969311
As early as turn 2 you can lock everyone out of the game.
That's largely why. She used to just be banned as a commander, but that doesn't exist anymore so she's just banned.

>when your opponent takes 100 years to put a card on the field

>>50969365
>When your opponent takes infinity years to decide if he has a response to a spell
just counter it if you're going to counter it, fucks sake.

>>50969365
>"I'm thinking stop rushing me"
>turn 4
>casual meta

How many possible plays could you have, play your 4 drop and stop shitting the game up

Is angry omnath good as a commander?

>>50969549
He can take a bit to get rolling, but once you get there it's kind of like making control players your bitch "what are you gonna do, wrath me?"

>>50966941
If you want to assemble, first you must disassemble

>>50966941
I got 8 decks and I'm starting to have this issue too, I love them all too much though.

>>50969549
I got an angry omnath deck, works pretty well.

At first I played too many big and expensive spells, but I realized playing Omnath was superior 9/10 times. So I took many of them out for more ramp and draw, to great results.

>>50969617
I've won tons of games by threatening to direct all the triggers towards the guy with the wrath in hand.
Then I just kill them through attacking while holding the proverbial trigger towards his head.

Biggest problem is when they just kill Omnath over and over.

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>>50969617
>"what are you gonna do, wrath me?"
Quote from man wrathed.

>>50969953
>goblin bombardment
>ashnod's altar
>phyrexian altar
>greater good
>tooth and claw

Sac outlets are crucial in angry omnath.

>>50961795
What about Merieke Ri Berit?

>>50970005
I expect my elements to be dying anyway, but perhaps I'll add some more sacrifice. The majority of my decks wind up with some sort of sacrifice theme, what is wrong with me?

Rate my cheeky as fuck Zedruu deck that steals opponent's spells and otherwise confounds spell casting
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/whose-spell-is-it-anyway/

>>50970295
You NEED the sac outlets, because people will always use targeted removal on your Omnath before they boardwipe.

If someone threatens to remove your omnath, you can threaten to remove his face in response.

>>50970295
>The majority of my decks wind up with some sort of sacrifice theme, what is wrong with me?

Sac outlets are nice. Protecting your stuff from mind control, tuck, exile and other memery is nice. Also, getting extra value out of your stuff from dying is nice when people are constantly wrathing

>>50970298
Wild ricochet and misdirection?

so i bought the meren precon as a christmas gift to myself, what are some good upgrades for it? its amazing how bad that deck is out of the box

>>50970425
The meren deck out of the box is objectively the strongest of the 2c precons. I'd put it on par with the 3c ones. Just throw in a spore frog, even out your curve and you're ready to rock.

>>50969549
I think so. If anything, I have a lot of fun with it since I get to make a bunch of strong tokens. On one hand, I have a bunch of lightning bolts. One the other, I can hit players with a bunch of 5/5s. I remember one game I killed a player at 87 life due to some smart sacrifices and a well-timed boardwipe.

The main weakness with my deck seems to be not having enough basic lands (running 25; 40 lands total). This could be fixed by altering my play style. I would also benefit from having more card draw effects. One general weakness of any deck will be against targeted removal.

As >>50970005 mentioned, the best way to get around targeted removal is with sac outlets. Perilous Forays is a recommended sac outlet. If you have enough mana (which should never be an issue), you can sac elemental tokens to fetch for lands and then sac the new tokens you make. Combine this Amulet of Vigor and Lotus Cobra and you can likely kill a handful of people.

Also, Triumph of the Hordes is great in this deck.

>>50969293
>Be on the play
>T1; Swamp into Sol Ring
>T2; Swamp into Braids

Now on everyone Else's turn 2 is spent saccing what is probably their only permanent, 1 land, and playing another land trying to to get something on the field/path2exile braids and now they aren't playing magic they're watching Braids player play solitaire and kill everyone with commander damage with no responses.

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>>50959257
This has to be one of the worst cards ever printed. Though, Rakdos made a come back with a vengeance in lord of riots.

>>50970654
>This has to be one of the worst cards ever printed.
This is a joke, right?

Rakdos is pretty sick in general but also a good one to Kaalia in.

>>50962500
Genesis, Undead Pharoah, Undead Gladiator, Gigapede, Phytotitan, Narcomoeba. That's about it for ok-good triggers for craw-wurm meta.

>>50963557
My kinda guy, anon
ended up taking wifey to my mom's for drinks and karaoke instead. I'm there in spirit though

>>50970727
>>50962500
Dont forget about Glory, give all your creatures protection from 1 color for only 3 mana.

Is there an artifact version of Phyrexian Alter?

>>50970915
yes, look up phyrexian altar

>>50970915
Krark clan ironworks is as close as you're getting I think

>>50970920
haha
>>50970924
Figured as much.

>mfw group couldn't handle gitrog deck due to life from the loam

I think I found a new favorite deck

>>50959257
>What is the absolute worst commander deck you've ever built? What in particular sucked about it?

Kemba, mainly because I lacked good equipment and stoneforge mystic.

>>50970692
It's a six drop that has you sacrifice half of your permanents for the chance of having another player do the same? Regardless of whether or not you make it through, you won't be able to cast him a second time. Is there some sort of deck that makes this anything more than a coaster?

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So I've been out of the game for about two years now but I've been looking through my decks and lurking through this thread and I've been feeling the itch again. My old store doesn't even run Magic any more so I'll probably be checking out some of the other options soon but I was wondering if people still used those simulation programs to play games. There weren't rule engines if I remember correctly so you had to not be a shit but I thought it might be a decent replacement to in-person games.

Also unrelated but which is better: Sword of War and Peace or a judge promo Sword of Fire and Ice. I like being able to punish people for having too many cards in hand and I think I prefer prot white over prot blue, but drawing cards is nice and the promo is just too cool looking.

>>50971051
Oh, no, I didn't mean "as a general" ("in general" probably wasn't the best way for me to phrase that). Just that it can be a useful and powerful effect despite the obvious drawback, though admittedly a bit win-more.

all right boys it's done. My first EDH deck after losing my first 3.

r8 and h8, and give some advice if you have any.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/krond-auras-1/

>>50967898
I have these and would put in my bant deck, but how do you guys manage tokens?

>>50963248
They are essentially knights but plenty of stories have them acting like cowboys

>>50971215
Plenty of stories have knights acting like cowboys as well. There's stories where cowboys act like knights or samurai as well.

Turns out there's some thematic similarities you can draw between people who ride horses.

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>>50959322
Sounds so powerful

>>50971241
Kinda makes naming things look stupid

>>50963325
New Olivia loves this card as a madness enabler and to creare surprise blockers though Edh isn't really where she shines but tiny leaders she's pretty good imo.
Too bad barely anyone plays it.

>>50971317
There's probably only ever been like 5 things total.

>>50971113
Favored Hoplite
Pacifism
Ordeal of Heliod
Collective Blessing
Sigil Blessing
Seeker of the Way
Spear of Heliod

All seem too low-impact to be worth a card to me. You probably also don't need that many value aura-carrying creatures like Fleecemane Lion and Thran Golem. The golem's actually kind of sweet though. Sun Titan is probably just better than Silent Sentinel. Try to pick up a skullclamp if you can, it's usually a good card anyways and with all your incidental saproling generation you'll be able to draw quite a few cards off of it. I'd look at running more removal, one or two more sweepers, and some recursion as well. Don't really have any good recommendations for those since green isn't really my color.

Good start to upgrading your first deck. In general I'd watch out for sacrificing general utility for theme, your theme in this case being "get value with auras then attack with them". Cards that don't directly help that can still help your deck overall.

>>50967898
>>50971180
Do you just say 'I have infinite tokens?

Is there no, "whenever an artifact taps..." because Basalt Monolith taps infinity?

>>50971588
yo man thanks a million for the advice
I kinda like spear of heliod just for the threat of removal itself.

any good removal you'd recommend in these colors? I know there's that one green enchantment that turns a creature into a land, and i have bound by moonsilver which seems pretty spicy

>>50971853
Always perform any loop a few times (announcing each trigger on the stack and resolving them one-by-one) so everyone can see what's going and allow for interaction. I was playing Ghave the other day and got Phyrexian Altar, Ghave, and Geralf's Messenger down, but ran through a couple loops so they could see it wasn't just value.

>>50971113
You have too few lands for how little ramp/rocks you have. I also think you have too many creatures, and aura creatures. I'm not saying there shouldnt be redundancy, but with 22 auras before even looking at creatures I'd say you're not going to be missing them often, espically if any of your draw cards are out and going. You are also pretty sorely in need of more removal. You're in the perfect colors for it too. I'd add in a few more boardwipes and spot removal. Also you need to swap out some forests for plains if the mana circle is to be believed.

Also good luck with your first EDH deck. This is the one you're probably going to be tweaking for a long time, and even if its not great now it will get there by every new card you add.

>>50966802
I want to play more EDH and meet new friends. I've been too low on both EDH games and friends to play them with since I moved to a new state last year.

Also, I want WotC to print a new boros commander that isn't dumb aggro or centered around a parasitic strategy like vehicles.

>>50967898
You can use elemental mastery, its only 1 mana more and the tokens have haste. Sorta splinter twin like

>>50959257
What do you guys think of Liliana, Heretical Healer in Meren?
Is it busted that Liliana can come back if she's ever removed with Meren's effect?

>>50972280
I play it

How do I play Thada Adel? Anybody got a list? I'm just looking for some artifact fun with a side of "everyone's sol rings are mine now"

>>50963248
For the same reason everything that is a land animal isn't a beast.

>>50960977
>>50960360
Here is my braids playlist, I win about half of the games against goodstuff izzet decks and the like.
It is a good deck that can pull a win against spikes.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/braids-sea-monster-slam-jam/

>>50972501
I'd also like to mention I've never built an artifact deck before, and it's between Thada and Slobad. If Slobad is more fun, hit me with a list for him too.

>>50970378
excellent suggestions good sir

>>50973057
Have you thought about the new card from this years commander Frenzied Fugue?

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>>50965357
Basically build it like you would Edric. Maybe a lot of thieving magpie effects. Costal Piracy etc. Draw all the cards! Counter all the spells!

>>50970654
Give Rakdos double strike, fill your board with dudes with Death Triggers. Attack... wreck your opponents board. He may not be Tier 1, but there seems to be a lot of potential in OG Rakdos.

I'd build him, but my playgroup can be rather salty about a general like this.

What's a fun deck to build for when your main stuff has gotten too competitive for your group?

>>50973447
Malfegor Hellbent

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>>50968939
Wait how do you get your extra turns? The sphinx can't attack in extra turns.

>>50973447
I mean, tribal or theme is the easiest way to do what you're asking.

Otherwise I'd say either budget, or simply tone down your deck somehow. I have a Karador reanimator deck that slaps the shit out of everyone in one of my playgroups, so I just play the same list with Teneb at the helm. The difference is power is astonishing.

Most folks seem to want an "easy deck" to pick up for less competitive groups, but the trick is finding a deck you enjoy playing, then finding a way to play that deck in different groups. I also play an obnoxiously strong Ulasht combo deck, but I frequently hold cards when I could win on turn 5-6. I let everyone play their game, and have their fun. If the game is obviously dragging on too long, then I'll drop the combo and end.

This sort of philosophy may be a bit difficult for somebody who can't keep themselves from being competitive, but its worked for me. Find what works for you.

Failing all that, here's some fun guys I've been toying with.

Borborygmos Enraged Land Chucking
Mayael Fatties for Years
Vela Ninjas (although EVERYBODY tries this one)
Ink Treader (if your group allows it)
Wort Spell Slinging
Horobi Jank Tribal (there is a $5 decklist out there if you wanna check that out)

>>50962856
>3 artifacts for 8 power
>1 equipment can make kalemne swing for lethal because of doublestrike
hes not even close to her

>>50973547
>attack as morph creature
>flip before combat damage and target the medomai
>turn face down again on extra upkeep

>>50971090
People still use cockatrice and the other program. Have you found a new card shop?
Regarding the swords, it depends on the meta and your deck. Otherwise, I'll just run both. They're fun to use and they're reliable.

>>50973620
Oh i get it now. Thanks for the explanation!

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>>50971113
Increase your lands. Bump it to at least 35 or 36. Green as lots of ramp spells so that'll help. 2 drop mana rocks increase would help, such as talisman of unity. Recovery spells also would work, such as pic related and eternal witness. 1 drop mana dorks, like birds of paradise, also are good. Playtest the deck and see what works and those that don't to take off. Hope you have fun playing edh!

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>>50973447
did someone say fun?

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>>50973447

>>50974148
not that guy but that seems like a fun idea

>>50965789

Cast Knight cards from your graveyard.

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How shit is my deck?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/olivia-voldarens-whacky-wombats-and-combats/

Looking to make it more fun and able to win. Not opposed to spending a few bucks. I guess the main idea is to kill whatever opponents drop and win with my stuff. Or steal theirs.

>>50974449
wheres the cock in this art? Objectively worse and not just cuz it's a terrible alter

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>>50974449
This might be a good bit of Exile removal that will also beef up a creature to snatch with Olivia.

>>50959629
If only there was a way to keep recurring this into your hand.

>>50963325
As said, in multiplayer it's a terrible card. But in Duel Commander Queen Marchesa or Tiny Leaders Olivia, it's really damn good.

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>>50974773
ino rite?

Are there any good budget, fun and actually decent commanders?

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>>50974903
Like a more fun, less douchey Edric

>>50966291
All I want is more cards for creatureless control Queen Marchesa but WotC hates control.
Other than that only things that could make me happy would be a new powerful elf for Ezuri or some nice tech for Karlov.

I didn't buy a single card from Kaladesh and the only thing I got from C16 was Ash Barrens. I feel like I was bait-and-switched because I really liked CNS2 a lot and it seems the card design for CNS2 is a rarity and not in line with what WotC wants for the near future.

>>50973621
I'm very tight on slots and I haven't even started looking at the cards that have come out in the last year. I'll just go with the Fire and Ice for now since I had been running War and Peace before.

No new shop yet. There's a good one about half an hour away but I'd prefer something closer. May not be an option though.

>>50974934
I bought Narset (not knowing how much people absolutely loathe her, and without the intent to take extra turns) so I could just play good stuff jeskai. Because I have a lot of that stuff from my collection.

But then I played it. And when I get all my mana rocks out, make everything indestructible, get two triggers off in the same turn and then destroy all lands? Yeah, my friends all scooped. They watched me solitaire for 5 minutes just so they could scoop.

To be fair to them, they said it was fine. They didn't have a problem with her, they just didn't realize how much of a target she is. One of them used Bribery on me and found a Dualcaster Mage. He went through my deck like 4 times and said "seriously? This is it?!"

I wanna keep that deck around, but I'd like a fun commander I can just play and maybe just tap some creatures sideways. Idk. One dude in my group is a spike in everything he does (surprisingly one of the nicest people I've ever met), so his deck is always going off and solitairing. So, I wanted to play blue so I could disrupt that. It got really fucking boring watching him do that shit for a total an hour in a 4 player game that took 2 hours to play.

>>50974449
Looks pretty good anon! What made you want to build around Olivia?

>>50974941
I'm pretty sure you can through enchantments. The mardu color enchantments, planeswalkers, fieldwipes, and artifacts are enough.

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>>50975045
>I bought Narset (not knowing how much people absolutely loathe her, and without the intent to take extra turns) so I could just play good stuff jeskai. Because I have a lot of that stuff from my collection.


Numot might be a good pick for Jeskai goodstuff.

>>50975159
He just seems so cost heavy and LD isn't "fun". In competitive formats, I have no qualms with LD. In a casual format? Eh, it just feels shitty.

>>50975485
I run Numot. I generally use him as a big fattie when needed and tend to use the LD to take out things that have to go, like Coffers and Urborg. And the fact that you can choose the lands you take out (they can be different players etc) means you tend not to hit land bases.

>>50975485
mld being bad is a meme

the only time it's bad if it's cast by some memer who only wants to slow the game down. it's a very good way to deny resources when you have a dominant board state. it's hard to play board-dependant colors like white and red without relying on MLD. they can't wrath your board if they don't have any lands

>>50975551
>mld being bad is a meme
Unfortunately it's a meme on the part of other player which you have very little control over.

Numot is still great. Good for targeting specific lands held be specific people which you can hopefully leverage to your diplomatic advantage. But some people just glaze over as soon as they see "destroy... land".

>>50975046
She was my first Commander ever. Got her in an Innistrad pack, saw her potential, and built my first deck. It was a voltron deck with all kinds of crappy pieces of equipment but giving her hexproof, having her ability to pump herself up, and having some damn good removal made her unstoppable in my group. Until a guy spent a few hundred on his deck and way overpowered the table.

I've made other decks but she's still my favourite.

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>>50975718
This. MLD is a good way to keep other degenerate decks in check.

>>50975817
>lolol I don't have any other turn four plays so I guess I'll cast armageddon

MLD has its place but these types of fuckers need to be removed.

>>50974449
Mer-ek Nightblade seems like a good include. How do you feel about going balls deep on mana rocks and running an Unwinding Clock to steal peoples' guys more efficiently?

>>50975978
Armageddon is sweet if you have a bunch of mana dorks & rocks

>>50975978
Agreed, those guys need to be cock punched. I'll happily cast Armageddon in a competitive playgroup with an aggro board state or a suited up Voltron general shamelessly though.

lmao@u if you don't have competitive & casual playgroups

>>50976042
Dropping a commander like Ruhan or Zurgo and playing armageddon the following turn is a good strategy.

>>50975984
I kinda want stealing to be a sub theme type of thing. Something I could do but not really rely upon.

Not sure how Mer-ek can help this deck to be honest.

>>50976116
*vs using Quietus Spike or Basilisk Collar

>>50972001
>>50973785
all righty, I can't get my hands on some mana rocks immidiately.

but I've got a list of what i have on hand as far as ramp and removal

>removal
silkwrap
predatory urge
savage punch
epic confrontation\
prey upon
rabid bite

>ramp/rocks
hedron archive
meteorite
fractured powerstone
astral cornucopia
armillary sphere
voyaging satyr
verdant haven
map the wastes
sheltered aerie
farseek
awakening zone
avacyn's pilgrim
elvish mystic.


also side note, i found an open the armory laying around should probably put it in right?

>>50975485
Try Ishai + Bruce Tarl. Cast Bruce only when you need to squeeze in the last bits of damage in. They make a great goodstuff combo.

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>>50976116
>I kinda want stealing to be a sub theme type of thing.

This is my favorite non-graveyard based theft spell in Black.

How do I fight Yisan in Abzan/Junk? So far thinking Bitter Ordeal/Praetor's Grasp to get Craterhoof Behemoth, Lignify/Song of the Dryads to shut down Yisan before he goes off, and Elesh Norn via Pattern of Rebirth

>>50976349
Damping Matrix, Linvala or Faith's Fetters are good at switching him off. Or Ob Nixilis, Unshackled for lulz.

>>50976412
I'm playing Ghave so Linvala is definitely my best bet, but dang is she expensive

>>50976523
Also Darksteel Mutation. It's like Lignify but harder to get rid of the creature.

>>50976349
A million ways. Grafdigger's Cage, Containment Priest, Hex Parasite, Nevermore, Aven Mindcensor, Pithing Needle, Phyrexian Revoker all work and that's not close to all.

Future sight border or regular border? For the sake of pimping

One time playing 3 way commander we somehow lost our hands and were topdecking with 2 knowledge pools on the field. I can't believe we sat through that without scooping.

>>50960132
sylvan library, mind's dilation

>>50976598
Is it foil? Then the answer is always the one with the lowest print-run.

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>>50965496
How annoying are we talking?

>>50974449
Could use some input, folks.

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>>50965496
Can be annoying as fuck but also legitimately useful and awesome.

>>50976694
>awesome

Like casting Chaos Warp and Radiating it.

So goddamn fun.

>>50976745
I was thinking more a kicked Rite of Replication

>>50976576
Oh shit these are some I didn't think of, hell yeah buddy

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>>50976694
>Gotta have homosex before you get burned to ashes

>>50976769
yeah, that happens at times as well, but chaos warp is something you can run in mono red as well.

>>50976847
Also a great spiteful response to a Hero's Downfall

Any suggestions on what to do with this?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/leave-my-planeswalkers-alone/

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>>50976898
Thrummingbird will be a great little addition.

>>50976898
Also, Chromatic Lantern is the best mana fixing rock around. And Celestial Dawn.

So I want to make a Voltron-ish deck with a knight theme to it. I've already looked through all the Knight Legendaries, and found Tivadar of Thorn to be my favorite. Any other recommendations for commanders or cards?

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>>50976898
>4 Colour commanders come out
>wow now I can make a dedicated superfriends deck
>in Yore Tiller
why do this other than to evoke this response?

>>50976920
>>50976965
These are interesting suggestions, I'll probably add these
>>50976982
I dunno, I think planeswalkers are neat. So, I like to play a lot of them. I like the art.

>>50960393
Is this just pirate tribal or did I skim over the non looty win con?

>>50977027
It's just pirate tribal. I wanted a low powered deck to play with my non-usual playgroup, because sometimes the pseudo-vintage shitfest gets old.

What are the best colors and the best commander for a suicide/group slug deck? I've got most archetypes covered between my seven decks but I still have one more slot in the box and I think I want to make a meat grinder deck. Pure pain.

>>50977506
Rakdos colors and Malfegor or Mogis

>>50977506
hidetsugu damage doublers
kokusho sac & recur

rakdos color group slug is mostly good for killing yourself really fast but i guess if that's what you want to do then go for it

you can also go RBx with something i guess. just don't build nekusar

>Boonweaver Giant into Flickerform into everything else
Bad?

>>50977740
lotta mana, pretty spicy, probably bad.

>>50977700
RBw group slug would work. Plenty of enchantment recursion, especially since most punisher cards are enchantments.

Zurgo would be good at the head as an emergency beatstick.

Vial Smasher / Ravos Soultender would be a good partner pair.

>>50977774
and pretty slow, since it's end of turn.

>>50977740
I used to do that, but then I just got Pattern of Rebirth and Gift of Immortality, which are only ones that matter

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Thicc

>>50978041
Well there's Stratus Walk, then other Voltron favorites