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This thread has been reclaimed for the Adeptus Mechanicus.

>>50900472
carrying this over here because i like where its going

What's with all those digits in the /tv/ sticky? Geez.

Anyways, have any of you guys used the Horus Heresy Victory is Vengeance rules before? I was thinking of adapting them to 40k armies as an improvement on HoR and Kill Team. Any experiences to share/ideas for a 40k version?

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Fifth for Cutefax

>>50900542
That guy is going to be a fucking ASSHOLE to paint. Holy fucking shit GW.

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>>50900552
>As troop choices are already lacking on the table top and are pretty much a tax unit at this point it will probably shove them entirely lower on the flag pole.
That's only an issue with poor internal balance. Balancing up would allow troop choices to be improved, like actually making tacs worth taking by actually making them feel like elite veterans who could kill basically anything else in the game like chaos warriors in WHFB: expensive but deadly, or giving orks more options and making mob rule good to make boyz right an proppa killy.
And if vehicles were also improved that would do a whole lot for troops.

>>50900553
>I was thinking of adapting them to 40k armies as an improvement on HoR and Kill Team.

The only thing you'd need to change is the name for loyalist vs heretics to attacker vs defender. Its a cool system that I dont think requires too much fiddling to work in 40k but you have to realize its a system intended for campaigns and not just pick up games.

Has there ever been a Mordian HQ?
I thought Bastonne was one, but turns out he's Cadian.

>>50900553

Currently reading through. Honestly, I'm liking the look of it as is. HoR's campaign rules can indeed be expanded upon in this way, possibly as an alternative campaign ruleset.

HoR's assumes a base of operations for extended operation, but ViV fluffs it into a very desperate situation. They could be kept mutually apart, or be combined in some way to represent that, while the teams have safe places to retreat to, they're on their own when it comes to the acquisition of supplies.

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>>50900579
True, but he'll look damn cool if I/anyone manages to do it well. It does look a bit like GeeDubs' sculptors have forgotten that models are occasionally taken down from the satin cushioned display case and taken to a table where they will be picked up and moved about a lot, though.

Also, if I ever pick up a second one (if his price isnt too exorbitant) that's my 30k conversion parts requirement done for months.

>>50900583
Yea but we can't really be certain as most of the top armies only use elites and heavy supports. Now i for one would gladly take tac marines being actual veteran like and being expensive but strong and if we can make nids not be take some tax units and have hormagaunts and termaguants be swarming all over the board it would make games 100% more fun.

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So what's the best Knight to take for my War Convo? My original idea was an all purpose Crusader with Stormspears and a Battlecannon, but that's the priciest knight in the book. It sorta cuts the rest of my army short. This is about all I can squeeze out. And I really wanna run some Kastelans. I thought about swapping some destroyers for the cheaper breachers, but I feel that's a poor choice.

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waaagh

>>50900687
>2540 becomes 1850

jesus

>>50900695
Good looking models man. I'd give everything a couple dark washes though, they look a little clean.

I miss my Cyboars. Bring back Feral Orkz!

>>50900695
good idea, tabletop paintjob, Fuckhorrible basing

>>50900706
Free stuff is one hell of a drug

>>50900632
Special Character? No I don't believe so. we've had Cadian, Catachan, Tallarn, and Valhallan SCs. MIG is the only one of the original regiments left out.

>>50900706
The worst part is that I can't even begin to compete with Eldar, Tau, and BA unless I take the War Convo, and even then it's a gamble.

>>50900656
>Yea but we can't really be certain as most of the top armies only use elites and heavy supports.
Only space marines really. Tau need pathfinders for marker lights, daemons love pink horrors, and eldar have windriders.
>Now i for one would gladly take tac marines being actual veteran like and being expensive but strong and if we can make nids not be take some tax units and have hormagaunts and termaguants be swarming all over the board it would make games 100% more fun.
Oh most definitely. Theoretically the end goal of balancing up should allow for any possible army build to be viable and have special rules to encourage variety, like chapter tactics, clan rules or regiment tactics. For nids they would definitely need changes to instinctive behavior, and perhaps some type of RoW and/or fomation that allowed nid troops to keep coming back, like that one apoc formation

>>50900726
Dammit. I'll need to use an already existing unit and just change the name then. Sucks.

>>50900706
To be fair, a lot of that is fairly useless, like Digital Weapons on all the sarges.
Also, I don't think you're allowed to take relics on Oathsworn Detatchment Knights since they aren't characters, although I may be wrong.

>>50900687
If you need dakka and versatility, Crusader. Warden for slightly less dakka, Errant if you want to keep it really cheap.

>>50900719
Snake bite support when.

I want Orks with poison and Squigs.

>>50900737
>BA
What? are admech outside war convo that bad?

>>50900742
I mean we will only see when nids get and updated codex out of 6th ed.

>>50900687
>warconvo will become the standard decurion when the combined mechanicus/skitarii army book is finally released
Mark my words /TG/, this is only the beginning.

>>50900720
dont worry, its not done yet.

>>50900748
I meant Gallant, not the Errant.

Are gene cults still good? I have 220 guard/traitor models and I was gonna run a neophyte heavy list

>>50900781
Seems unlikely as it's incredibly inflexible.

>>50900781
It's not an awful idea, without the Knight at least. I don't see the reason for requiring one of every Skitarii unit, but I also don't see why the Skitarii WOULDN'T overspecialize like that, fluff wise.

>>50900643
my thought on all those super detail things theyre bringing out is :"you cant properly 3d print that yet"

>>50900798
Yes. But Acolytes/Metamorphs are the main selling points of the army.

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>>50900745
Are you looking for a model to use as a Company Commander? Just use a Commissar, judging from the Lieutenant that's basically what Mordian officers look like anyway.

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>You can't tell me what to do sub-edition
>Curze is a Demon Primarch

>>50900798
GSC are excellent, but Neophytes are just roleplayers/support. The power is in the Acolyte Hybrids.

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>you can't tell me what to do sub-edition
>Fall of Cadia
>Curze is true prophet of the 8th
Curze rules when?

>>50900808
Look beyond, if they're combined they won't need current structure, but will become more flexible and with more buffs than the current one, it'll become a core choice and HQ that'll will give the free stuff, a full warconvo makes me shudder in fear.

>>50900870
>>50900855
I know this is bait but ill give a (you) anyways to say nothing you have shown actually gives any thought that he will be a daemon primarch both those just show that he lost himself in the heresy and many people have pointed out that curze is not the prophet of the eighth.

>>50900578

ALL HAIL GREYFOX

>>50900855
>>50900870
I sure miss the curze fag now that this faggot is roaming.

>>50900925
Some random false prophet Decius is the prophet, bah! Curze truely has the premonitions, he is the true prophet.

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>>50900964
MFW it's only been me Curze posting this whole time

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Army Builder won't let me put the warbuggies in a squadron of 5, so I had to list them separately.

Also, the warbuggies have twin-linked rokkits, but again, Army Builder wouldn't allow it.

Warboss and Painboy join the unit of Nobz.

Feedback appreciated.

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>>50900995

How bad of an idea is spending the extra points for CC weapons for a squad of Meltagun Havocs? I plan on giving them a Rhino to help them drive in close and pile out to slag things, but I'm wondering if the extra melee ability will help them in case I need them to charge something.

What's the best set-up for a unit of 8 Rust Stalkers?

>>50900542
That model is such a hot mess.

>>50901103
Well, the turn they exit the Rhino they can't charge. And you should be blocking their LOS in Shooting phase with the Rhino's flat out.

It would be useful in a handful of niche situations, but not enough to warrant 10 points that could buy an important upgrade somewhere else.

>>50901121
An awesome one.

>>50901119
Turn them into 5 infiltrators

>>50901146
Well, it'd only be 8, since the champ already has one. Ideally, it'd be for the turns after they exit the Rhino, assuming there are more viable targets to charge rather than melta.

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How do I do a Chapter based on wrestlers?

>>50901193
paint them like hulk hogan and macho man

maybe green stuff cowboy hats

>>50900855
>>50900870
>get told by fucking quints to stop
>still try and force it
Curze is dead anon. There is literally nothing that indicates otherwise, and even that bit of fluff you keep posting isn't necessarily about curze

How should I build Word Bearer Favored of Chaos? What marks, Icon, or artefacts?

>>50901187
Also consider that you're putting your meltaguns at risk when you send them into CC (even against weak shit), and they gain no benefit from those 10 points you spent on the guns once they're stuck in.

Sometimes the risk of entering combat with Guard vets is better than taking that Battle Cannon shot, but that'll have to be a situational call.

If you're CSM, you'll have much better ways of killing things or tarpitting them up close. Let the meltas melt unless they need to hide in combat to live.

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>>50901193
the raven guard already exist

you can't see them

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Two Eversor Assassins or a squad of Custodes?

>>50901103
Better just to do the free swap

The 2 points is never worth the versatility, if you want cc option just ditch the bolter

Chaos Xenos when?

That's pretty much as heretical as you can get

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>>50901244
What's Brock, then?

>>50901208
>Following numbers
>Getting butt hurt over Primarchs returning
All Primarchs are coming back over the next two years, except for Horus, Sangpenis (except maybe his consciousness through the Sanguinwhore) and the two missing Legions.
I have simply provided an in-roads to how Curze will come back.
>Primarchs make GW money
>All possible Primarchs are coming back
Ignatius Grulgor came back as a Prince when he died, as have many other marines, why wouldn't a Primarch you silly boy.

>>50901282
a greater monstrous creature

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Just dropped by to laugh at all you filthy Gue'la and your poor excuse for "technology".

>>50901280
They do have Tzaangors now. That's probably as close as we'll see for official support, outside of AoC with various xenos and chaos.

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Alpharius/magnus incoming

>>50901280
Tzaangors.

>>50901291
How's Iron Hands coming back?

>>50901291
>being this mad that there was a primarch with a better ability to tell the future
sorry that your guy could only see bad things and was a whiney little emo about it

>>50901282
Either Wolves or World Eaters

>>50901304
>>50901302
Aren't Tzaangors supposed to be beastmen, e.g human mutants?

>>50901291
>All Primarchs are coming back over the next two years, except for Horus, Sangpenis (except maybe his consciousness through the Sanguinwhore) and the two missing Legions.
[citation needed]
They're bringing back some primarchs, sure, but we have absolutely no proof that everyone is coming back

>>50901291
>I have simply provided an in-roads to how Curze will come back.

You shat up, like, 18 generals with spam. We all know that all the Primarchs CAN come back, stupid, and we've known for years.

>>50901323
nope, they're from the Planet of Sorcerors.

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>tfw I ignore all /tg/ advice on Orks and run Nob Bikers with Burna Boys in melee

>>50901313
>Thinks I like Curze because he was good
Curze was the shittest Primarch, and that is why I like him. He wasn't a Mary Sue who ran around the galaxy being awesome, he was insane, with unreliable visions, with a Legion of rapists and murderers he hated.

Only in Daemonhood will his visions clear, and he will reunite the Night Lords in to a Legion, as the Prophet of the 8th. (It's like how Angron finally stopped being insane from the nails after he ascended to Daemonhood)

>>50901309
Fulgrim has been cloning him for the past 10,000 years, trying to convince his old friend to join him in Chaos. Each clone is a perfect recreation, and is slaughtered as soon as they make it clear they have no intention of betraying the Emperor. Each one last about 15 minutes, IIRC.

If even one clone escapes, Ferrus is back.

>>50901355
I don't get it, Orks lack good melee weapons yet can get incredibly easy access to AP3 weapons that can bring down most hard hitters they struggle with, not to mention its a model by model basis so you can use the Orks at the front to cover as many models with the template, then as they're in the front lines before charging can soak up overwatch and early melee attacks, before coming back round with the remaining orks for S4 AP 3 attacks.

Why isn't this ran?

>>50901291
>I have simply provided an in-roads to how Curze will come back.

This is the part that angers me the most about this massive faggot: that he's actually stupid enough to think a vague description about a Primarch "losing his [humanity]" from a 3 year old novel set in M31 means Curze is going to return as a daemon primarch even though this has NEVER happened before with someone dead coming back as a daemon prince or a primarch coming back from the dead.

At best he'd come back as part of a greater daemon with a totally different personality or as a daemon host.

>>50901371
Where's this?

>>50901338
Really, because >>50901309
doesn't get it

They can bring back Ferrus Manus in two ways:
They hinted his head was kept alive in HH books
Ferrus was cloned many times (albiet not perfectly) by Mr. Beautiful Snake Primarch. Just say one clone was perfect and it escaped.

>>50901309
He's already the emperor's stand, all he needs is a new body.
Also, in beast arises the iron hands where shown to be working on a way to bring back dead heads to life.

>>50901386
I've got no idea, do you have any idea how many fucking books there are?

>>50901377
16 pts/model.

>>50901379
It is set in modern era 40k not M31 you turd burger

>IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THEREFORE IT CAN'T HURR DURR GW WOULD NEVER DO THAT
K friend, thanks for that wonderful insight.
He will return as a Demon Primarch, mark these words.

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>>50901303
Jokes on you its Age of Sigmar stuff nobody wanted

>>50901391

Or they can just say M'Shen didn't actually kill him. Idiot.

>>50901418
>>IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THEREFORE IT CAN'T HURR DURR GW WOULD NEVER DO THAT
>HURR DURRRF HUURURF CURAZE CUMIN BAK AS DEMON PRIMARCH PROFIT OF DA 8TH

Ironic, isn't it.

Anyone have an okayish way of running Favoured of Chaos?

>>50901420
M'shen took his head silly billy.
They never got the head back.
I guess they could bring Ferrus and Curze's heads back on a different bodies.

>>50901418
>He will return as a Demon Primarch, mark these words.
Everyone understands your beliefs by now, so please shut up and stop spamming.

>>50901247
Erversors for sure

>>50901291
>mfw new abbadon model is twice the size of current

Horus Clone confirmed

>>50901303
Its kron crap

>>50901431
It is more ironic that you can't use the word ironic properly. But even that isn't very ironic.
Please keep being this butt hurt it is encouraging me to Curze post, because you are making me laugh.

>>50901419
Doesn't line up, dummy.

Dammit anons i took the bait so you didn't have to. Why must my sons fail me.

>>50901461
>People telling me to stop being a turd makes me feel like Xanatos.

This is why trolls always win.

>>50901461
>misuses ironic in the exact same fashion as he accuses others of doing

Ironic, isn't it.

>>50901121
Keyword "hot".

Really lubricates my Phallus Mechanicus.

>>50901461
>Please keep being this butt hurt it is encouraging me to Curze post, because you are making me laugh.
Do it faggot. I'll laugh when the mod bans you for spam

>>50901510
>Implies generating healthy discussion about fall of Cadia is spam
No friend, what you are doing is spamming/griefing, luckily I find it amusing so I don't report you.

>hey /tg/ what's the worst faction in terms of shitposters in 40k?

the answer is always the one which has the most recent release and/or rumors.

Chaos, Sob, Chaos, Space wolves, Tau, etc etc

with new releases come new shitposts

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This is a bitch to keep up and it is all metal. The new Saint Celestin is going to be a nightmare.

>>50901532
>being a retard in every single general for weeks and getting everyone mad at you
>healthy discussion

>>50901532
>>Implies generating healthy discussion about fall of Cadia is spam
>implying reposting the same pic and same text in every fucking thread isn't the text book definition
>implying it generates any discussion besides telling you to fuck off
>implying you even know how to use ">implying" right

>>50901544
I have not been in every single general.
How rude, please get your facts straight.

>>50901540
>implying it isn't Chaos

Look at this very thread. Even if there wasn't a Chaos release going on you'd have Curzefag. The faction itself is needlessly and obnoxiously edgy.

>>50901562
Sorry friend, I didn't mean to trigger your autism by writing >implies instead of >implying.
>MOM HE WROTE IT WRONG AGAIN

>>50901540
Chaos and Tau are a permanent shitposting.

Chaos for wanting their 3rd edition book and Tau since they got their anti tau fluff Not! Titans.

>tfw as an ork player I always cheat and take an extra 200-500 points
>tfw I still lose 60% of the time
>tfw I have played nearly 200 games.like this and have never been caught
>tfw no face can describe my grief

So bad a handicap doesn't fix it, Orkz are finally bottom teir

>>50901595
>TFW you realize you are actually just a bad player to lose that much

>>50901583
>gets called put on the fact that his spam is in fact spam
>tries to shift arguement
Nice try faggot. Now take your spam and get out.

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>>50901587
Thing with Tau and Chaos is that there's a select few resistance posters who just want to have fun with their faction without being cheesy fagmunchers (me for one) and they're drowned out so we can't get involved in any conversation or ask for advice without the entire thread turning against us.

>>50901616
>Tries to stop "spam" by spamming
K, thanks friend.

>>50901629

I guarantee you're a faggot and you just don't know it yet.

>>50901595
>tfw as a space marine player I always cheat and take an extra 500 points of razorbacks and drop pods
>tfw I win 90% of the time
>tfw I have played nearly 200 games.like this and have never been caught
>tfw no face can describe my smirk

I am alpharius

>>50900870
>all cadian regiments get reformed into a single cohesive fighting force
>headed by creed
>despite being the first of its kind they keep their honorary number
>8th legion castellan's own

>>50901632
not him, but in what world is a discussion spam?

are you ok anon? because what you just said makes no sense

>>50901658

Point to the discussion.

>>50901371
That's one sick bastard.

>>50901632
>no u
Fucking hilarious. But I don't feel like giving you any more (You)s, so i'll just tell you to fuck off one last time.

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>>50901653
>as a necron player I always gimp my self and play with ~200-300 points less
>I still win 90% of the time
>I have played nearly 200 games and no one suspects im doing this
>I have the face for this

>>50901653
>taking RBs in Battle Company just to get "more free points"
>doesn't realize Rhinos are better due to the top hatch

>>50901673
the series of replies from different people?

anon what do you think spam is?

>>50901675
So much butthurt over Curze's return :(

Would y'all say $67.50 for the start collecting orks is a good deal?

>>50901689
>spamming and shitposting
>discussion

How the fuck is that a discussion, let alone a discussion about Fall of Cadia, you dumb sack of shit?

>>50901543
The ones in AoS that use the same sort of scrolls to keep them up are pretty sturdy, actually.

>>50901707
If you are trying to attack me (the Cuze poster), that isn't me you are talking to anymore.

>>50901707
>How the fuck is that a discussion
because it's different people talking about something, namely anon's spam?
>let alone a discussion about Fall of Cadia, you dumb sack of shit?
when did I say it was about FoC? that was the NL spammer.

Anyone else feel like they're in a rut? I feel like I'm drowning.

I have both HH boxes that I'm kit bashing for NL, but I haven't actually glued them yet because idk if I'm going to run them as 30k or TL. On top of that, my LGS is missing a color I need, so I can't paint them anyway. Finally, I also have 2 drop pods that are probably going to be converted into Dread Claws.

I have an army of Sisters that is probably 75% painted with a few more tanks and Veridyan on the way.

I have most of a Deldar SC! assembled with a bunch more unassembled including another SC!.

I have a pair or Knights that I got for 40% off that I don't even know what I'm going to be doing with because I've never done anything that big, and I don't want to assemble it without magnetizing, which I've also never done.

I got the big box of Sylvaneth and a WM 2 player box for Christmas.

The icing on the cake is that I have no one to play with except one new player with KDK because no one can afford it.

>>50901595
>as a guard player i always put ~ -1 to 1 extra conscript in my 50 man conscript squads on accident
>i still win 50% of the time
>i have played over 200 games and no one suspects i'm doing this
>tfw no face can describe my mediocrity

>>50901721

Not everything is about you, faglord.

>>50901728

Two people swearing at each other isn't a discussion. I know you're too stupid to know what subtext is so I'll leave it at that and see if you can even figure out what I meant by that.

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>>50901686

>his razorbacks don't have a top hatch

>>50901736
>NL player
>also an SoBfag
>DE edgelord
>Knight spamming faggot
>also plays Warmashit

NLfags confirmed yet again for ultimate cancer. You could literally make a faction of floating penises and not be as gay. It really says a lot for someone to be attracted to a faction like that.

Cue armchair psychologists trying to reflect criticism back on me.

are dark eldar truly evil? i'm new to 40k lore and it seems like they are sadistic assholes who cruise around on their bikes to catch unarmed people and torture them

>>50901759
>As a Guard player I tell people that the Leman Russes have Lumbering Behemoth and can fire all weapons no matter what
>I use Demolishers with Lascannons and Multi-Meltas and fire at full ballistic skill
>Have only ever gotten called out on it around 3 times in 70 games
>It doesn't help me much and my Conscript blob always ends up doing more

>>50901771

Are you fucking stupid?

>>50901771
His razorback are free.

Also Retribution squads with Heavy Flamers inside Repressors. Pure delicious wall of flames.

If only the retarded FAQ didn't remove the Vyridian bonus while inside it. Rending and snipping heavy flamers.

>>50901645
I know I enjoy penis but I don't enjoy being a WAACfag so I don't do it. What's your point?

>>50901808

Well, not everyone gets retarded formations with free shit.

Anyway, I like HF rets with Promethium pipes, mostly because don't have repressors. One day we might actually get them in plastic.

>>50901193
wall to wall ogryns and bullgryns

>>50901786
>>NL player
I like jump units and Raptors are troops. Plus, I like the dark blue and want to try. I hand at lightning.

>>also an SoBfag
My first army that I've been playing since the dawn of 4th edition. I regret nothing and love playing them.

>>DE edgelord
I bought them so I could have good looking plastic to work with, and I love the look of Raiders. If I had the money, I would've bought them with their 5th release.

>>Knight spamming faggot
I bought them because they were 40% and there was no reason why I shouldn't.

>>also plays Warmashit
I just want people to play with. If I can assemble and paint a 2 player box and play with someone, I'm happy with that.

>NLfags confirmed yet again for ultimate cancer

I love that you're roping me into a group based on an army that isn't even glued yet.

>>50901703
yes but no

Reposting my list from last thread to get some feedback. Store doesn't allow unique characters sub-1000 points, so no Emperor's Champion or Grimaldus. Not sure if having a Sergeant as a character as part of a Tac Squad instead of the two shooty Crusaders is better or worse.

850 Points Space Marines
Chapter Tactics [Black Templars]

+ HQ +

Captain
·········Power Armour [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chapter Relic: The Burning Blade, Melta bombs]

+ Troops +

Crusader Squad
············Initiate [Chainsword] ×8
············Initiate (Heavy Weapon) [Power Weapon (Sword)]
............Land Raider Crusader [Extra armour, Multi-Melta]
............Neophyte [Chainsword] ×3
············Sword Brother [Bolt Pistol, Power Fist]

Crusader Squad ×2
············Initiate [Boltgun] ×4
············Initiate (Heavy Weapon)
················Missile Launcher [Flakk Missiles]

>>50901908
the two player box is pretty shit all things considered

>>50901920
>sub 1000 points you're not allowed a unique character
>nothing stops you from making a captain who's better than a unique character

your local store is shit

>>50901942

Still, it's not like I paid for it, and it gives me something different to do.

>>50900494
does anyone have the pdf for xenology?

>>50900539

I'd say replace the Tankbustas since they're much worse following the FAQ. 3 MANZ in each Trukk would probably serve you better; the Mek Gunz cover your anti-3+ shooting just fine. 140 would buy you 3 MANZ with 2 sets of Killsaws, which cover anti-vehicle pretty well.

>>50901957

6th edition shitter detected.
Back in 4th edition, unique characters weren't even allowed under 1500 points.

>>50901645
I can definitely guarantee you are a butthurt bitch.

>>50901053
are warbikes the only viable way to even play orks now?

>>50901986
>be me
>point out that a local meta is retarded for banning unique characters when you can build better herohammer units from the nameless datasheets
>get called a 6e shitter

you're fucking stupid I've been playing since 2nd

>>50901976
The tankbustas are for tankhunting dear.... rerolls and all that without needing to be within 6 inches to charge?

>>50901976
how did the faq nerf tankbusters?

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Any nids player here? Couple of questions -

How do you go about adrenaline glands?
Do you glue them on models?
Do you play the glued ones as having adrenaline glands only, or do you just say that they don't actually have them?
Any possible way to magnetize/pin them on gants?

Just thinking what would is the most common way with the adrenaline glands.

>>50902012
Yes.

>>50902026
You're fucking dumb for playing anything later than 5th edition

>>50902044
Nobody models adrenaline glands on gaunts

if you're super autistic then ring the bases of the ones who have glands if there are some that don't have them

>>50902054
no

>>50902054
I don't know you, but next time tell your shit relatives that you can get all the books for free in the Mega.
Also you have it, so just read it and see if you like it.

>>50902041
Only one nade in cc per unit

>>50900494
First for the Orkz!

>>50901787
Good people don't do that kind of things to other people.

>>50901920

My Sisters would have a field day against that list. That LR is just begging to melta'd.

>>50902089
>Orkz confirmed for glacially slow

>>50902105
Aren't you just as cute as a button.

>>50901957
Yeah, their rules are a bit...weird.

Only just realized last tourney to maybe put a limit on fliers after a few people pointed out that their vehicle limits can easily be abused by flier spam and most decided to just play it fair and stick to one or two.

At least the captain isn't plain better than the Champion. Costs 30 more points for a potential downside of the weapon and extra wound but without the challenge bonus rules.

>>50902089
>I2

Just got a Leviathan from MI what sort of a wait time am I expecting in Aus, and how much of a shit time am I in for having to model a recast

>>50902100
My entire store has around 15 players, with pretty much only SM, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, one Necron, like 2 ork players and a few Tyranids. If anything, Grav spam would be my main danger.

>>50902054
Horrible

Are devastators better in Blood Angels or Salamanders if I'm not using cheese

>>50901914
why is it not a good deal?

>>50901377

Because they're 16 points per model with a wet t-shirt armour save, leadership 7 and to get them anywhere you need to invest in a transport, oh and they're initiative 2 and Strength 3 if they don't charge so even at Ap3 they tend not to do much.

>>50902039

Trouble is they don't do that very well. Oh they can strip some HPs off of a rhino but they can't blow up non-open topped vehicles. Ironically they're actually pretty good against Monstrous Creatures that lack 2+ saves, but against most vehicles they're pretty poor. What they used to be good at was running into a vehicle as a suicide squad and taking it out because they could all use their meltabombs.

>>50902012

Yes. There's other options (I personally love the Triple B Formation list of Badrukk's Flashgitz, Bullyboyz and Blitz Brigade, but that is strictly for fun only) like Green Tide and Buzzgob's Stompa but none of them match up to Bikespam, especially with Zhadsnark.

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>want to make a kek themed thousand suns army with magnus as lord kek himself
>don't have the money to piss away on a shit joke
Some richfags please do this

>>50902166

That's fair. It's still about 30% of your points plus the dudes inside, so just watch out for that.

>>50902226
Hey mate, this is /tg/ 40k General, not a /b/ cringe thread. Pls go.

>>50902226
Go to AoS. Look at Slann.

What's a better assault Chapter Tactic?

Blood Angels - +1 Strength +1 Initiative on a charge

Carcharodons - Buy CCWs for +1 point PPM or exchange Bolter for CCW for free, each unit gets rage after it wipes an enemy unit or makes it fall back in close combat

>>50902226
>wanting to further defile 40k with shitty /pol/ memes
Frogposters are universally cancer.

>>50902276
>recommending someone defile the blessed Slann with frogposting
By the old ones, you should be sacraficed to sotek.

>>50902239
Yeah, had my first BT game (and first one using Space Marines in general) last month and ran Land Raider Crusaders, a Missile squad and a Drop Pod Command Deathstar. Pretty much the only thing pulling any of its weight was the Land Raider and the only time it even got damaged was from a Gorkanaut ripping it to shreds.

Hoping this list will work a bit better. Won't have as much flexibility due to no Drop Pods, but unless people specifically prep for a Land Raider now (which I doubt), I can most likely just directly bust that thing over the board and puke out my Crusader blob + Captain to wipe pretty much all infantry they run into.

>>50902324
It's already been done, why fight it?

>>50902281
Clearly it's Black Templars :^)

>>50902281

BA because you don't run towards the enemy like a retard, are allowed to take allies, you don't have to win melee to activate your Rage bonus, and get melta guns on assault squads.

t. Carcharodons player

>>50902324
>someone defile the blessed Slann
What is AoS for 5 points.

>>50902383
Eh, the lizardmen lore is at least decent. It could have been far far worse

>>50901920

1 Captain with Artificer Armor, Power Sword, Melta Bombs

5 Crusader Marines with 1 Meltagun, 1 Multi-Melta, 10 Scouts with 10 CCW in Land Raider Crusader with 1 Multi-Melta Pintle
5 Crusader Marines with Lascannon
5 Crusader Marines with Lascannon

That's how I would do it.

>>50900542

Belisarius has been working on the webway for 10,000 years. Mark my words.

As he is 10k years old, should he even have a scrap of visible flesh left?

I remember seeing text that said some Magos are little more than brains in jars, how is this dude rocking an operational arm and a face with an eye?

>>50902440
can't have more scouts than marines in a crusader squad though

>>50902474

BT are dumb.

>>50902471
Could just be artificial stuff that looks more real than plain metal.

>>50901391
>They hinted his head was kept alive in HH books

Negatif. I've been working my way through the HH anthologies recently since i finished all the real novels, and there's a short story where Horus is talking to Ferrus Manus' skull. Fulgrim had The Gorgon's head flensed and cleaned up and presented to Horus.

>>50902471

Well a Magos doesn't HAVE to upgrade his whole body. It's just that they all pretty much do. Once you're up that high in the Mechanicus you can essentially do whatever you feel like doing. Want to study an ancient chaos artifact? That's Thursday. Create a genetic cross-bread of Tyranids and Ogryns? Pfft, we did that three decades ago, ended up having to purge five systems. Delve into the scrapcode repositories in sealed vaults on Mars? No problem, the password is 1234.

>>50901442
The only way this works for me is if it's like that guy in Crank 2.

>>50900578
Why is greyfax with black templars? Don't they fucking hate the inquisition? Aren't these the dudes that have enough marines to put the black legion to shame?

>>50902536
>Delve into the scrapcode repositories in sealed vaults on Mars? No problem, the password is 1234.
That's amazing, I've got the same combination on my luggage!

>>50902471
>Belisarius has been working on the webway for 10,000 years. Mark my words.
It's either that, finding the Omnicopaeia or bring back emps.
Hopefully Belisarius Cawl proves to be the savior of the imperium and does all three

>>50902552

She's from the Ordo that is practically the Inquisition version of Black Templars.

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>>50902552

>Aren't these the dudes that have enough marines to put the black legion to shame?

Retconned by the faggots at the Black Library.

Black Templars are now are tidy codex compliant 1000 marines.

>>50902552
She's a psyker who hates psykers. It doesn't make sense either.

What do we expect from Fall of Cadia except, new Celestine ubermagos, new Inquisition waifu. New Abby model? New Black Templars rules?

>>50902671
More hot chaos dickings

How the fuck am I supposed to play my Tzeentch demon army before GW shits out all these stupid new blue horror/brimstone horror models I'm supposed to buy?

>>50902552
>enough marines to put the black legion to shame
no even if they had 6k brothers still less than Black Legion + abby has all traitor legions united. (legions of old has 100k marines)

>>50902684
Splitting is optional. Just don't do it. Or use tokens like everyone has been doing with blue horrors for years.

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>>50901711

Fuck tard lier, those prosectors or whatever they are called with the wings tip over at the slightest touch

>>50902671
possibly an update to canadian models/rules

>>50902684
wrath of magnus isn't mandatory and you can get by with just the daemon codex

>>50902671
>new Black Templars rules
Hoping for a re-retcon of the "only 1000 Black Templars" bullshit and at least 2 Formations, one 500-1000 points and one sub-500 points, to actually use Crusaders with.

>>50902708
Oh you mean like that. Then yeah, I meant they don't snap, break or bend.

Just glue a small coin to the bottom of the base.


>>50902715

>possibly an update to canadian models/rules

Mountie IG Regiment when

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>>50902604
That would be hilarious. Thousands of years of struggling and death and people like Eldrad, Creed, Vect and such all trying to run their endgames, and this ancient Magos, who, due to spending all his time actually Getting Shit Done instead of scheming just walks up and goes "Screw you guys, I've got this" and fixes the Throne and the webway project, and revives Big E.

Now that Admech are clearly a legit faction who get do do things in lore, when will we get an Admech-centric campaign? Might be fun, as long as it isn't against Tau. Agripinaa vs Chaos might be nice.

My bet, which is almost certainly wrong, is he has managed to search the vaults of Mars, reverse-engineer and destroy the Death of Innocence, allowing Mars to regain some of it's old glory and come to the aid of Cadia with a new array of DAoT bullshit. Seeing the Reaper's Scythe, Terminus Est and the Planet Killer, plus whatever other shit Chaos has being outmatched by the Arks Mechanicus would be awesome.

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>>50902671

With all this talk of the new Magos, Inquisitor, Celestine, and Black Templars I am very worried that the actually Imperial Guard whose homeworld is being attacked are going to be sidelined in the story.

>>50902684

I don't understand your question. If you're wondering what you will do with your army when they make new models, you can still use your old ones. If you're asking for the common popular Tzeentch builds being run right now, it's basically Fateweaver, 3 Heralds of Tzeentch, a bunch of Pink Horrors to cast psychic stuff and summon, and rest is up to you.

>>50902329

Fair enough. Unless you're vomiting melta in every slot like Sisters, a LR is pretty durable at 850.

>>50902734

IG are already sidelined in every campaign.

>>50902684

Ignore this guy >>50902707

You should buy models for each of the splits, if you buy several boxes of silver tower you will have plenty of models and can play epic silver tower games with your friends.

Personally I find using Games Workshop models rather than proxies far more immersive and help forge an authentic narrative. It's up to you but I like to support the hobby and ensure high quality miniatures are available for my kids kids

>>50902552
>Don't they fucking hate the inquisition?

No? There's plenty of instances where the Inquisition has fought with the Templars, the only one that actively hates the Inquisition is Grimaldus but thats mainly because of the 'Ork snipers' incident.

>>50902552
Black Templars getting everything they should've gotten in Angels of Death

>New Black Templar decurion
>Relics
>Vows for the Emperor's Champion

Hopefully a plastic kit to replace the 10+ years old conversion kit.

>>50902731
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>>50902734
don't worry, we'll get some talk about some valiant guardsmen dying in droves to buy the marines more time to cripple abbys forces

>>50902731
eh, Eldrad does a bit more then plot.

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>>50902773

Yeah, pretty much but if there is one campaign that shouldn't have happened in should be 'The Fall of Cadia™'

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Are Missile Launchers useful on Heavy Weapons Teams? Is it silly to field 5 Missile Launcher armed Heavy Weapons Squads? Figured they'd make quick work on most vehicles, monstrous creatures and blobs, but I'm worried they're too expensive for what they bring or how easily they're killed off, but I'm thinking the latter issue can be countered by using cover. Already planning on fielding a 50 man blob with 5 Autocannons in it.

So I'm in the US and a lot of stores like Warstore and Dicehead all offer up to 30% off MSRP. That's great. And then like 10 dollars shipping. Not so great. I mean, it's still not retail, but eBay is significantly cheaper still. Hell, I found a Start Collecting box for about $60 from Poland on there.

What gives? Or am I just going to the wrong places?

>>50902785
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I would honestly expect the Admech to try that, maybe do their best to rip off the Necrons.
They probably have the capacity, they make Forge Worlds. Would be a bit ineffcient, though. They already have Exterminatus and Chaos wouldn't be too scared :(

>>50902833
Dream on.

>>50902801
Yeah, but it didn't accomplish much. Still spends more time fucking over the others than actually doing stuff, though.

>>50902860

30% off is 10% more than the norm, and $10 shipping either means you're across the entire country, and it's only $5 more for shipping than FLGS which offers good deals.

Just wait till you are buying twice as much as you usually would. Shipping isn't cheap, you ever try shipping something in a box before?

>>50902891
Yeah, I sell stuff out of my house all the time, so I get it. And I understand it's cheaper. It was more of a comparison to eBay more than anything. Though I suppose reputation carries a lot of weight with the other places, over eBay, huh?

>>50902648
oh fuck that.

Why can't the Templar's be angry and righteous enough to ignore the codex?

I don't even like them that much, and this sucks

>>50902671
Honestly, the IG plastic kits are fine as is, if anything, I'd add more special weapon variations to their boxes, but I wouldn't prioritize very highly. There are other kits that could probably need an update more.

If anything, some Cadian compatible rough riders, instead of every cavalry unit in every regiment ever looking like they call the Emperor Tengri.

>>50902927
It's Black Library, they might as well not exist if you don't want them too, they get overridden so much by GW.

>>50902921

Honestly as long as you don't have negative ratings and your auction doesn't look sketchy, you should be able to make a sale on NEW product.

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>>50902927
>i want an updated black templar codex along with being on par with vanilla!

>>50902927

They used to be.

Then some snivelling Black Library rat came along and undid it.

yay, thanks guys.

>>50902188
because you get a bunch of orks instead of a good unit

I want Forge World to make an Angels of Death style book for the Badab War chapters. Or if not that, then update the Badab War but with more content than just the FAQs. Like how IA4 Red Scorpions got a ton of new relics and shit.

So are nids suppose to be swarmy with a couple large creatures cause they don't seem to play that way.

>>50902996

Nids are Pacific Rim kaiju: the army

>>50902964
I'm with >>50902955, if it's not it's not written by GW, I'm going to ignore it.

Either that or I start using multilaser armed Razorbacks and Landraiders interchangeably to transport my backflipping Terminators.

>>50902996
That was how their original codex played, but then people started taking tons of Carnifexes and the monstrous creature meta was born.

>>50903031
but i like hormagaunts and termagaunts they look cool and like the thought of 1000 of them rushing at some tau is great.

>>50902996
Theoretically, there are a lot of different ways to play Tyranids, either with swarms, infiltration, or giant stompy monsters.

Realistically, it's all Flyrants, outside of homebrew fixes

>>50902707
What would you recommend using as tokens?

>>50903062
So play like that.

ill build a list in a bit

>>50903107
meant for >>50903082

>>50903080
Anything you want, so long as it's clear what it represents. Use coins, going smaller as they split, for instance.

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>>50901787
Yes they're pure evil. They could give up their edgelord ways but no.

>>50903080
you could make flames easily from green stuff on a base

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>>50901301
How's the Space Pope doing these days?

I really, really want to field a bunch of 50 man conscipt blobs. Is there a way to do this without spending my life savings?

Guardsmen are fucking bullshit expensive.

>>50901787
They are probably the most evil race in a universe of evil races.

>>50903180
>"He's just fine! Why, we saw a live holo broadcast of him just last week!"

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>>50902671

They said on the Warhammer Community video where they look back over 2016 that the Gathering Storm (which Fall of Cadia is part of) will have something for every faction.

For my Orks, I'm hoping that Ghazzy marches over to the Eye and unites the warring Ork empires just next to it, then descends on Cadia to show any puny Chaos gitz what a real boss looks like.

>>50903186
>Guardsmen are fucking bullshit expensive

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Imperial-Guard-Cadians-5-models

Even the normal guardsmen aren't that expensive, it's because you decided to buy FIVE FUCKING BOXES OF THEM that make them prohibitive.

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Thoughts for improvement?

>>50902858
Autocannons or bust really anything else isnt optimal

I just got a space marines start collecting set - what should I paint them as? Any underrated chapters?

>>50903194
I'd really like to see the Orks show up during this crusade to disrupt everything and turn the whole thing into one giant shit show. Not to mention that would buy GW some more time in the timeline and grant the Orks a campaign book.

>>50903272
Work on building a list and playing a few games. See how you like to play and then decide what you want your chapter to be.

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>>50903272

>>50903272

Red Scorpions allows the tactical squad from that box to get a 5+ FnP apothecary, and the terminator captain will be able to buy some exclusive Red Scorpion relic weapons.

They're not really underrated, but they are a bit uncommon. Most underrated chapters are just color schemes with generic uninteresting rules anyways.

>>50902471
Fluff-friendly reason: Rejuvenat treatments

More likely reason: GW sculptors don't understand the implications of their fluff choices/vice versa

>>50902858
Missile Launchers interact poorly with the Vehicle damage table. You generally want lots of shots at any AP to just strip hull points quickly, or AP 1 or 2 shots so Pens can role "Explodes!". Missile Launchers have neither characteristic and aren't superior enough at something else to be worth that downside.

>>50902858

I personally find them 'jack of all trades master of none'.

>Frag rounds only reliably wound GEQ with such pissweak AP
>Krak rounds reliably kill one space marine if you hit him, can't faze TEQ with strength or volume of fire, and are crap against medium/heavy vehicles due to poor (for anti-tank) AP and only S8
>Flakk missiles have the punch of an autocannon against skies full of AV12 and T6 3+ FMC's for way too many points

Way I see it, the heavy weapons SQUAD is hot garbage right now, due to low wound count, poor Ld, and bad points efficiency. It's much simpler to fold the HWT's into your infantry platoon.

As for the guns, I use Lascannons for anti-tank, and Autocannons for everything else. AC's are strong enough and fast-firing enough to reliably wound all infantry, even TEQ through sheer volume of fire, and can give light vehicles, aircraft and FMC's a hard time.

The only thing they can't really bother is heavy vehicles. For which you use a Lascannon.

>>50903300
>Initiate Domus once saw an eldar. He was given Terminator honors
>mfw some clueless kid is trying to operate the terminator suit and keeps knocking other marines over

>>50903194
come on mordrak, the grey knights need some flavour

>>50903321
MLs would be an interesting option if they got Flakk for free.

>>50903321

I wish MLs were still free, 5, or 10 points. 15 points means I might as well pay 5 more for the LC. I never use the shitty low S frag template anyway.

>>50903350
Or a reduced price. I was going to take them on my GSC sentinels until I figured out they didn't have the sky fire option at all

>>50901461
The only thing Curzeposting in every single fucking thread achieves is getting everyone to think that Curze fans and Night Lords fans are a bunch of insufferable faggots.

I guess it kind of fits into the lore.

>>50903436
Night Lords are the Dark Eldar of Chaos Space Marines.

>>50901759
kek

>>50902536
>Delve into the scrapcode repositories in sealed vaults on Mars? No problem, the password is 1234.
SIDES ESCAPING MARS ORBIT AT TERMINAL VELOCITY

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>>50901759

>as a guard player I always add extra lasgun shots for my sergeants even though they have laspistols
>no one has noticed

>>50903180
Still dead.

I have an idea to make some money pls rate no steal.

>Buy decent 3D printer
>Bulk buy plastic spools
>Commission a 3D designer to produce a bunch of ruined gothic buildings and grimdark as fuck terrain
>Make all terrain modular
>Setup a website and sell terrain flatpacked for semi reasonable prices

Good Idea or nah? Obviously it would be sanitized of GW logos but would still fit thematically.

>>50901303
Did you even look at it?

>axe
>spikey armor

It is neither alpharius or magnus.

I just got my Diaznettes and seekers, How do they do in GW killteam? I noticed 10 nettes and 5 seekers, both upgrading to their sarge equivalents and taking 20 points of gifts is 200 points.

>>50903579
Why do your sergeants not just have lasguns? That extra CC capability is pretty much worthless.

>>50903587
it would require several 3d printers to make minimum wage so high set up costs, and maintenance costs would fuck you.

>>50903587
>he thinks he will ever be able to move product fast enough to sustain a sales site

lol fuckin 3d printfags are so clueless

>>50903587
I mean, it'll work. It's the set up and niche appeal which demands higher prices to make a profit that generally stops most 3rd party miniature things. If you can tolerate swishing the shit taste of start up costs around in your mouth for a month or more, then you should be able to make SOMETHING.

>>50903587

Do it, if it looked good you'd make your money back fast. That said lots of people are probably doing the same

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Less melta, more grav? I like both I'm still new and I just like to fool around making lists and would like more help on learning how to make one work with Blood Angels

I got the renegade box for xmas.

I play a mostly ravenwing DA force so I don't know how I'd fit a knight in. I do have some green and death but they see less use.

Do I paint them both up as allies? I see some green knight houses but no black. The bone color house looks meh.

I suppose I could paint them up as completely random for games of renegade but it doesn't seem like I'd play it much.

Or I could get a third and make it a new army...

Help me dudes who play big ass models.

OK guys time for a hotly debated topic at my local club. How do you roll dice?

>Gaming table
>Dice table
>Phone app

We had a faggot a while ago using a rigged dice roll app and since then most of us won't play anyone not using physical dice.

>>50903681
most of the time on the table, but with how terrain is i can see the advantage of dice tables. not to mention how loud they are

>>50903658
>Lots of people doing the same thing

Please tell me where I can find cheap 40k terrain. I really want to cityfight but no way am I paying GW prices for buildings.

>>50903681

I have a dice app for convenience but I prefer rolling dice on a mousepad type gaming mat. If the board is too cluttered or is a plastic style table that doesn't support dice rolling without tons of bouncing or chipping I'll either roll it somewhere else or use the app.

If your tables can't support dice rolling you really need a dice table or a small dice rolling tray.

is there a decent small sized list (kill team to 750) list i could build for blood angels for about $225?

>>50903714
go to a retail store and buy some ornaments of tiny houses on clearance. you can also make stuff from sprues

Anyone else pick up the cataphratchi apothecary? Managed to get 2, one for me and one for a friend

>>50901787

Dark Eldar are about to save the galaxy, don't listen to these chaosfags

>>50903633

They can't take them.

>>50903675
Just pick a Noble House to paint them as. All Knights are allies. Matching the scheme is nice but completely unnecessary. Also houses are like Chapters. You can make your own scheme.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Knight_Houses

>>50902734

That's virtually a guarantee, sadly. This ought to be their moment in the sun, too.

>>50903775

I'm at work and all the ones under $60 have been sold out on eBay. Only the faggots wanting $70 to even $100 for it left.

Farewell, my dreams of having a Sundowner miniature.

Anyone near Redmond, WA wanna buy a factory-wrapped Deathwatch Overkill box for ~$89? I can drive

>>50903681
I either roll on the table in some unused section or in a tray, most often wooden.

>dice apps
HISSSSSSSSSSSSS

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OKay this is my swarmy nids list i know its bad but anything you guys can tell me would be much appreciated

>>50903834

Physically rolling a bunch of D6 is like half the pleasure of playing 40k. The other half is the painted models and terrain. Why people try to cheese this game with unpainted models is beyond me, it's barely worth playing like that.

>>50903633
Read the fucking codex before you comment on shit goddamn retard

>>50903912
just know one thing: you will practically never win.

make sure to ask yourself if you're ok with that. everyone says pick based on the fluff first, but no matter how much you love the fluff going 0-10 will suck. remember that.

>>50903579
That's grounds for flogging, trooper. You win by the rules or you don't win at all!

What's there to make you any different than the alien, the heretic, the mutant, hmm?

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>>50903743
2x Start collecting BA + the BA Gauntlet tactical squad, one squad has a rhino that I forgot about. Get a terminator to put the characters in and some pods/rhinos for the other two characters and you have a fun army.

For Kill Team just take a tac squad plus a rhino.

>>50903321
What if you opponent really likes his MCs, AV 13 and daemonette hordes?

>>50900843
I actually have that figure acting as a commissar at the minute. I'll probably strip him and cast him.

Do you think it would be fair to use the 3.5 Guard codex to build a custom force that reflects Mordian battle styles, then stat and cost it accordingly? Or would players bitch and moan about it?

>>50903979
Bring melta, plasma and lasguns instead

>>50903976
thanks for the advice!

>>50903960
oh i know i wont win. My first army is BA known as a not very strong army even for marines. If i wanted to win i would just buy what ever the top netlist are and run with that. I want to be able to play an army how i want no matter how times i lose.

>>50903939
I can understand playing with unpainted models if you're really tight on time and such and actually intend on doing it. It's all about how you come across. An arrogant WAAC douchebag is still cancer, but if he has unpainted models, it'll bug me more. But a bro who just wants to play a game amidst a busy schedule to get some R&R, I can't fault them.

But not rolling physical dice is like.. why? Why must you be that much of a filthy heretic?

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What think

>>50904089
Fucking christ, resize that shit

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>>50904089

>5184x3456

>>50903612

I thought of the same Idea when my first batch of MTO daemonettes came in. But the problem with daemons is the lesser ones kinda lack personality, not as bad as tyranids but I always kinda feel like the Lesser daemons arent fully self-aware.

They also lack shooting and will struggle with even the less armored vehicles allowed in Kill-Team with their S3

So you'll need to gamble for strong ranged weapons with your rewards.

In melee daemonettes will wreck stuff though. but vehicles will still fuck you up

>>50904039
good for you man. i run blood angels too, and i get how it feels to lose a lot.

wish you the best of luck on the list. have fun!

>>50904100
Dslr init

Coming back from 4/5e, what's the current IG meta? I still have a bunch of stuff lying around

>Mfw it looks like they STILL haven't updated the cadian sprue

The fuck?

>>50904148
>current IG meta
TANK SQUADRONS

>>50904148
I dont think they ever update sprues :(

>>50904142

You can resize it in paint, very few people are going to have the patience to wait for that to load.

Why doesn't GW just buy the new hip listbuilder, adds direct links to their shop and some other neat features?
FFG did something similar with a LCG deckbuilder database site. Would be good promotion and a win/win imho.

>>50904170
I'm on my phone, it doesn't take that long to load does it?

>>50903912
Don't put adrenal on the horms. They already have fleet so they don't benefit from them much. Furious Charge is usually much worse than poison which works every round of CC.

You also really, really need more big threats and disruption to make something like this work. Raveners, Mawlocs, something in a Tyrannocyte. Lictors aren't threatening enough they can literally be ignored.

>>50904148
spam, spam, spam. as many guardsmen and shots as you can get. a lot of people are loving conscript blobs, since they're so pathetically cheap for such a sheer amount of dakka.

wyverns are used a bit too. mainly to wipe out whatever threatens your blobs.

chimeras are a good transport choice if you run decent troops like vets.

all of the special stuff is basically worthless. ignore ogryns, bullgryns, ratlings, psykers,etc. just get as many guardsmen on the field as possible is the main goal.

>>50904173
>Why doesn't GW do something that would be smart?

What's the best way to equip a Helfist Murderpack (5 Helbrute formation)?

Reaper /Twin Lasc mix + 2x Missile Launchers?

>>50904173
>GW
>Doing anything that helps customers

Top kek

>>50904204
>So pathetically cheap

Be careful ith that word anon, points wise they are cheap as fuck, cash wise not so much.

>>50903992
>3.5 Guard codex
Too old man. 7th is just radically different. I think it makes sense to use those old rules as a basis for some homebrew regimental traits and see if people are okay with that. But trying to present them as somehow "official" rules would be bad form. I'd also try to stick as close to the 6/7th ed. AM codex as possible while still getting the feel you want. And like all homebrew just be prepared that some people just aren't going to want to play against it. Many people should be fine with it if you're reasonable though.

>>50904105

looked over it again. you could Ensure to have both Sarge equivalents be able to deal with vehicles but theyll get focused easily.

>>50904148
MSU Melta Vets, a big blob of combined infantry/conscripts with a priest/commissar. Lots of Wyverns. Some allies for extra punch. Imperial Knights for example.

Would a blob guard army that goes in for assault be feasible ? Using 50 man blobs with close combat weapons, priests , commissars and primaris psykers with hammer hand.

>>50904148
>Mfw it looks like they STILL haven't updated the cadian sprue

Well Cadia's about to fall, maybe they'll put out new guard plastics to replace them.

>>50904269
If you can actually get them into CC without them being shredded then yes, it would be very effective.

>>50903826
Is there some other place other than Craigslist where gamers can swap stuff? I got a bunch of junk I'd love to trade for some Admech stuff.

Another shameless plug for my ebay account

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>Prophet of the 8th