Warhammer 40,000 general

>>50663852
epub sucks ass

anyone who uses it is a retard.

Chaos players that whine about drop pod are retards.

nth for Sisters in February

>>50661893
Oh, and by the way, can I use Contemptor Dread instead of a Hellbrute? Im getting it no matter what (its in the Calth set), and I dont feel like buying a fucking Hellbrute, since I dont feel it would fit to NL.Dread also isnt fitting, but it fits more then a Hellbrute.

Dark eldar are awesome. Is there anything they can't take from real space pussies?

>>50663942
Good rules

>>50663919
February is the new L O N D O N

>>50663942
Victories on the tabletop.

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>>50663940
>tfw you qute the wrong post
it was supposed to be this one >>50663862

Is all this shitposting supposed to try and cover up the new release?
Since when where the anti 40k shills this triggered?

>>50663942
Good infiltrators.

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EXPLAIN THIS

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>>50663852

>Chaos Lord on his way to Daemonhood: Ld10
>Chaos Lord ascends and becomes the ultimate expression of Chaos: Ld9
>VotLW already built in

What the flying fuck did Games Fucking Workshop mean by this fucking bullshite!?

>>50663942
Everytime I face Dark Eldar I imagine that their army is fully female, and that my [Insert Tier-3 Army here] are raping them til death after the battle is over.

Every Killpoint is translated into a dozen fertilized mongrel eggs.

>>50664023
Simple, GW doesn't hate Dark Eldar all the time

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BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>50664037
Daemon Princes are aloof fucks?

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Alright /tg/ fess up; what lightly armored vehicle do you favor? AV 13/14 or Necrons need not apply

i love the slaanesh chariots. tough as a rhino (daemon of slaanesh 5++ and ignores immobilized) and if it lives long enough hits hard on the charge

>>50663942
i'm not sure what you're asking but they can't take a punch

>>50664066
>Instead of inquisitor I can ally priest into my war convocation.

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>>50663852

yo i'm happy for all yuo traitor legions players but you think us Red Corsairs could get some special rules, detachments, relics and warlord traits too???

I started playing 40k 9 months ago and i already have +- 11k points( including reasonable, but by far not all upgrades ), do i have a problem ?

>>50664076
My drop pods are always fun :)

>>50664076
i love Blood angel Razorbacks and rhinos, they are fast ( and red )

>>50664039

dude come on no you dont

>>50664076
Vypers are pretty cool. They're cheap, can move at cruising speed and still fire everything at full BS, and carry more dakka point for point than shuricannon bikes (not quite as much as scatbikes though). The only real downside is that they basically ignite if someone gives them a mean look because 10AV all round and two HP

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>>50664076

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And now ForgeWorld's Exalted Bloodthirster will receive new rules, most likely making him actually playable since now with the "No more than 25% of the cost of the army except in apocalypse" none of those greater daemons can be played
Because, you know, Khorne has received so few models and rules in the last years

>>50664066
yes we know sisters butfucked again.

can you please go row on tau or ork players now?

>>50664076

Venoms, because fuck anything with a toughness (GC that are walkers go away)

>>50664039
I imagine it, it's in my head ever since I read that Eldar / Dark Eldar are fully functional.

I thought they were sterile for 15 years.

Not going into the hobbyshop with bondage gear, it's just 100% mental.

Why do people like AdMech? They are the lamest army in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>50664076
Skitarii Sydonian Dragoons. I swear they are the most efficent unit in my army list.
They work great as suicide bombs into big squads thanks to I6, and they are excellent tarpits against non-krak models.

They are the anathema of Predators and Vindicators, too. Once had one get really lucky with hitting and it killed two damaged Vindicators in one charge.

Anyone know of any good right handed termi sword arms? I want to kitbash a Company Master out of some spare Deathwing termi parts and give him the Monster Slayer of Caliban. The sword arm that comes with the regular Deathwing kit has the arm pointing downward, which I'm not fond of.

Or I could just give him the Mace of Redemption, which is objectively better and cheaper.

>>50664169
Wat ?

how do servitors, kastelans and dominuses look the same ?

>>50664153
Try some reading comprehension. The article only said it will be receiving new AoS rules, not 40k.

>>50664076
Drop pods.

Sit the fuck down son.

>>50663927
DEldar seem like they'd be a fun bunch to be around if you could survive it

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>>50664076
Shifty Old Men.

>>50664192
Say anon, could you link me to the article?

>>50664076
Why can't they make a Start Collecting box for Slaanesh with the chariot as the obligatory HQ unit?

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>>50664076

Always loved these guys. I always take a squadron when I play IG.

>>50664222
to be fair the chariots are a nightmare to build and GW doesn't like to talk about slaanesh. but fuck if that wouldn't be great. herald, 10 daemonettes and seeker chariot, and a fiend for 85

>>50664188
Same color scheme and clothing. *yawn*

>>50664222

Same reason they don't make a Tzeentch SC! With a burning chariot.

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>>50664076
We're hitting levels of fast that shouldn't even be possible. Also, 125 points for 5 outflanking TL'd Rokkit's is pretty ok.

>>50664264
>Same color scheme and clothing
what about space marines, IG, Chaos space marines and every other army ?

I rarely saw armys that dont have the same colout scheme and clothing. Except nids, they dont wear clothes

>>50664039
Do you live with your mum?

Literally how fucked up do you have to be to play Night Lords, Emperor's Children and Dark Eldar? I haven't played anyone with those armies but I've always imagined them as edgy teens larping as psychos.

Where are these pics of imperial agents coming from?

>>50664296
yeah, why ?

>>50664300
You're not endorsing rape if you play people you think are the villains. Some people like playing the villains.

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Dear GW,If you were a fat, ugly, middle aged woman, I would make love to you lovingly and passionately for what you've done to SoB in your latest release.

The sheer amount of salt, tears, butthurt and damage control from SoB players right now transcends mortal understanding of what should be possible. Never in my brief, humble existence have I laughed as loudly as am I right now, while my throbbing, erect penis continues to sprout out fountains of life-juice.I decidedly urge you to continue the cleansing of the SoB fanbase, ignoring their pleas and cries for mercy with righteous authority, building additional momentum until the final, divine blow is struck and the Sisters of Battle are inevitably removed from 40k. The sheer psychic backlash from such an action will resonate around the world, as hundreds (because less than a thousand people play them) of SoB players commit collective suicide, finally ridding the world of their existence. It is in that glorious day, as a hundred souls are sent screaming into the warp to be tortured for eternity by the Prince of Excess, in which I may finally pass away in laughter, knowing the Emperor's divine justice has been dealt and surrounded in a pool of my own cum.

Best regards,
Anonymous

>>50664300
it's true, Ork players always seem to be lacking in intelligence and initiative.

>>50664360
k

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoR-3oaWlQ

>>50664300
I'm a 20 year old gay male, with a boyfriend who plays CWE and I play DE and Harlequins , we both have thematic armies.
You should write "I would make love to you passionately and tenderly for what you've done", it flows better than "love to you lovingly"

>>50664316
Reviewers with official deals with GW get early copies.

>>50664360
I bet you vote for Hillary. It is the only logical explanation for this level of shitposting

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>>50664300
anon, there are skulls on the "good guy" human faction and they casually talk about death. do you really think you you above this?

>>50664288
It's different. SM have that problem too but different helmets, armor decoration and the fact that most of their things aren't actually marines makes quite a difference.

IG models can look quite nice with the right color scheme.

Orks have probably the coolest models, the sheer amount of customization and room for creativity is just outstanding, I have no idea why you mentioned them.

CSM are highly varied too, even their troops have a wide degree of different mutations and armor from the heresy.

Meanwhile every single AdMech model has the same 'lol robots' feel. Everything is crammed with some degree of metal + red that gets very old, very fast.

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>>50661441

>>50664382
Goddamn that's cool.

>>50664423
Maybe he plays Tau

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>>50664360

>>50664428
okay, you win, i am tired of talking to you
You are definitly right about Orks having the coolest models

>>50664167

>>50664138

>>50664457
Doomrider is never cool

>>50664387
Meant to send that second bit to >>50664360

>>50664382
i'm tempted to say drop the aura of dark glory and mark of slaanesh for daemon of slaanesh. also remove independent character

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>>50664360
Sweet, my shitpost became a pasta.

>>50664387
>gay male
That explains everything. It's not edge, just faggotry.

>>50664423
Yes.

>>50664296

What's wrong with having some non-harming fun ?

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ORKS

MAKE ORKS GREAT FOR ONCE. MOGFO!

1. An Initiative increase across the board. Boyz are now I3, Nobz are now I4, and Warbosses are now I5.

2. Army-wide Furious Charge.

3. A Ballistic Skill increase across the board. Boyz are now BS3, Nobz are now BS4, and Warbosses are now BS5.

4. Choppas are now AP4. Big Choppas are now AP3.

5. A Toughness increase across the board. Boyz are now T4, Nobz are now T5, and Warbosses are now T6.

6. A Leadership increase across the board. Boyz are now LD8, Nobz are now LD9, and Warbosses are now LD10.

7. Army-wide Feel No Pain 6+. This can be improved with Wargear and Painboyz up to a maximum of 4+.

8. Painboyz and Mekboyz are Elite choices. You may take up to 3 of each type as a single Elites choice, and you may distribute them as Independent Characters.

9. Mekboyz now have access to Kustom Force Fields. A Kustom Force Field grants a 4+ Cover Save to all models completely within 18 inches, including vehicles.

10. A Waaaaagh may be called once per game, and grants all Orks in your army Fearless for that turn. Calling a Waaaaagh also allows all Orks in your army the ability to reroll their Charge distance for that turn.

11. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 2+ armour save, 1 per army.

12. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 3+ invulnerable save, 1 per army.

13. Make new Ork boyz and Warbiker sculpts.

14. BRING BACK the rule about choppa reducing all armors better than 4+ to 4+, so that our boyz can kill TEQ once again.

MOGFO!

>>50664490
I thought he was cool
>>50664497
Well yeah anon, it's faggotry. Only pro-tier dick smokers play anything Eldar. The only group of bigger cock smokers are Ork players.

>>50664510
Please continue to use MOGFO, it makes you easy to filter

>>50664497
u should have thrown something about voting for trump in that shitpost.

>>50661682
As a Tyranid player, I shit myself every time a Dreadnought draws near

Repeating the question, can I use contemptor dread instead of Hellbrute in Chaos Warband formation?

>>50664567
No. Unless it's listed, the answer is almost always no.

>>50664360
you need help

>>50664567
does it say so somewhere ?
if yes, then you can , if no, then you cant

>>50664510
Boyz already massacre TEQ point-for-point, shitposter.

>>50664567

No, mong.

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>>50664525
what do you think about striking scorpions? stealth chainswords dude

>>50664465
there's something suspicious about those tau guys, 1984 combined with advanced tech is bound to have doom on the horizon

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>>50664159
>p-please stop!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

As someone who was thinking about getting 40k and playing sisters of battle, am I really in for a bad time now? Seems like maybe I chose a shit not-fun army.

>>50664497
What I thought the SoB salt and salt producing people are just people shit posting.

There is no way the 10 SoB players are making that much noise

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>>50664076
Sex on anti-grav

>>50663852
If anyone remembers this, I'm the guy who's fluffing a secret, black ops anti-Chaos Tau army. Working on making a Kroot Culexus, but generally it's not great for Kroot to eat chaos-infested stuff.

I'm thinking of getting a squad of Tzaangors to run as Kroot, since apparently there are many on the Planet of Sorcerors that are not TS-aligned, and potentially making Chaos Spawn with guns built into them to use as Krootox. I figure the Tzaangors could be familiar enough with chaos mutants that they may be able to guide spawn into combat and make it shoot what they want it to shoot.

The Tau certainly would not publicize the existence of the unit, but since they don't really have to worry about falling to chaos it's not a huge hazard.

Does this sound fluffy or just stupid?

>>50664606
I think they're metal as fuck. My favorite aspect is Warp Spiders, their old Flame Templates were brutal.

>>50664606
>1984
Eternal reminder that Tau are the good guys in the setting, and that theories of populace control is just lies spread by upset people who refuse to believe in a message as pure as the Greater Good

>>50664617
T3 armies are fun like playing old xcom like games.

If you enjoy playing on hard mode then sure go ahead

>>50664618
You'd be surprised. Queers and nu-males can bitch just as loudly as actual women.

>>50664619
Hell yeah motherfucker - wait, where are the drones' carbines?

>>50664617
Its almost unchanged celestine gone warbands split they are OK

>>50664627
i'm pretty sure the pariah thing is human only
no idea if the kroot could even get it

>>50664567

I don't see why you can't use it as a counts as, but you definitely can't use it with contemptor rules, sadly.

>>50664664
I thought people only play SoB because the concept of nuns with guns was way to funny.

>>50664678
The kroot pick up the genetic traits of stuff they eat (i.e. the entireity of their technical knowledge comes from Mekz) so I think some highly-motivated Ethereals and Shapers could make it happen.

>>50664617
Prepare to have /tg/ shit on your choices, other than that... nothing much changed really.

>>50664600
yeah i mean i always kill so muh wraith and riptide with my boys that point for point, are so much better

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>>50664567
you can't but you should do it anyways because it is cool.

>>50664665
You know I just noticed that myself. I just pulled it off the internet - I don't own a piranha yet, but I want a squad of three to tank hunt.

>>50664617
>Seems like maybe I chose a shit not-fun army
Because that is exactly what you did. I'd sell those models while I can, they're going to be squatted in February.

>>50664701
**They wouldn't bitch so loudly if that was the case.**

>>50664658
This. Imperium are the real commies here.

>>50664690
Well, gonna do that then.
>>50664724
What a coincidence, Im picking him up for my Night Lords. Is this a kitbash, or the one from the Nigh Lords Task Force? Im actually getting normal Calth cause poor.

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>>50664496

>>50664606

>Cadian sleeping on the job

This picture is lies

>>50664658
and i suppose that the etherals were just able to stop the tau from waging war and killing each other just by talking to them and offering them tea? that just makes their naive views even worse when the galaxy is out to kill you

>>50664734
>squatted in February

Why do you say that? I think there's something charming about the old metal models, they'll always be valuable to fans of the faction.

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>>50664734
Well people like >>50664497 are activity trying to make salt. Some must take the bait. Specially such disappointing codex

>>50664606
>titty scorpion

>>50664775
>implying he is not taking a quick 10-minutes nap after 76 hours of sleepless marches all accross a planet

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>>50664798
But anon, both of those posts are mine ;)

Lord Tzeench, bless me with thy power.

>>50664617

The only real issue with SoB are the outdated, overpriced, metal models. Wait for them to get a proper codex besides the current 6th edition digital one and the Agents of Imperium group codex, and wait for plastic models.

Feel free to do research on them, buy a figure or two on eBay to practice painting on, and build armies with their current rules, but definitely wait for a plastic release for the models unless you buy third party figures. You may have to wait for a while for official GW plastic.

SoB aren't a strong army, but they're also not as weak as people claim since their units cost less points than space marines but pack more melta. A full melta SoB list is pretty strong offensive-wise. But their army is also pretty limited as your units are basically going to be all SoBs and all Rhinos with various guns attached.

>>50664567
You can use the Contemptor model as a "Counts as" Warbrute using Warbrute rules. You cannot use it in the Chaos Warband with the Contemptor rules.

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>>50664754
That'd be the nightworld contemptor dreadnought

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Night-Lords-Legion-Contemptor-Dreadnought

Which is probably one of if not the pimpest looking of the legion specific contemptor dreadnoughts.

Now hear me out dog, I know you're saying you're gonna just use the task force one, but good god damn this one is WAY WAY better.

The calth one is a monopose slag garbage heap and dumb and bad.

The resin forgeworld dreadnoughts are pure pleasure on a sprue and you can pose em ultra dynamically with their cool leg joints and what not.

Also, honestly, if I was you I would just get this dreadnought, the TOTALLY SICK looking night lord raptors, and the legion upgrade kit from forgeworld then a box or two of chaos space marines and call it a day.

>>50664798
>For the purposes of this Warlod Trait, this Inquisitor is considered to be your Warlord.

What did they mean by this?

If you choose your own warlord and then give Inquisitor one, opponent can get Slay the Warlord from either?

>>50664066

i actually like this for adding some church models to my marine army, since my chapter actually worships the emperor unlike most

just wish it wasn't so shit since my fluffy marine army is already pretty shitty

>>50664272
I'm guessing Start Collecting: Daemons of Tzeentch will appear when the Blue / Brimstone Horrors get a box.

Or they'll be a stupid Horror Box:
>10 Pink Horrors
>20 Blue Horrors
>20 Pairs of Brimstone Horrors

~$85

>>50664606
>there's something suspicious about those tau guys, 1984 combined with advanced tech is bound to have doom on the horizon

So you ascribe to the "Vespid mind control helmet" theory?

>>50664895
It means all the traits that say "your warlord x" applies to the inquisitor, despite it not actually being your warlord

>>50664779
Remember that the Mont'au was a whole period of planet-wide strife. It's not inconceivable for the Ethereals to have found a willing populace for their message of the Greater Good when the entire planet was embroiled in almost constant raiding, sieges, and warfare. Those exhausted, hopeless Tau might have latched onto any philosophy that gave them hope for peace and a brighter future.

>>50664300
I play both Dark Eldar AND Emperors Children.

Dark Eldar mostly because of their playstyle than fluff (I even started eldar Corsairs).

EC (both 30k and 40k) not because I'm some edgelord, but because I love noisemarines, and their happy rock'n'roll attitude.

NL are however confirmed edgelords. (When I was young and a cringey edgelord, and considered most likeley to commit a school shooting by the people in my school, I used to find NL cool. Luckilly, I grew up and those days are over and long gone).

>>50664608
finished?

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-My-Little-Pony-Space-Marine-Army-6000-16000-points-Warhammer-40K-/262756013187?hash=item3d2d7a9483%3Ag%3AXaoAAOSw8gVX5ALf

W-why...?

>>50664895
No, it means if a trait says

>your warlord gets 4+ FNP

Your Inquisitor is the "warlord."

>>50664701

They should make a literal guns with nuns army. Remove power armor, have all SoB models be skanky nuns showing thighs and legs and have sexy face sculpts (or regular prudish nuns, whatever floats your boat, anti-boobplate dudes) and then give them stubbers or bolters. Or maybe to make up for their no armor save give them crazy S6 AP3 guns.

>>50664895
He gets the warlord trait, he's not your warlord, he doesn't count for slay the warlord.

>>50664608
you can continue but at this point its redundant as GW admitted it was a joke.

funs over

and so has any trust for gw

>>50664962
>>50664982
>>50664932
Oh, ok. Thank god. I was hoping GW wasn't THAT stupid.

>>50664958
Don't look too long, that image'll give you autism if you let it.

>>50664754

That's the forgeworld model, but I'm doing the same thing, though my contemptor will actually be used in 30k, too.

>>50664974
i think RH did this?

>>50664895
No, it's so that the Warlord trait your Inquisitor has actually works.

>>50664895
>mfw when GW doesn't add little reminder sentences like this, people cheese RAW and claim the Inquisitor wouldn't get certain warlord traits because it says "your warlord"
>mfw GW finally wisens up and adds extra sentences to make it absolutely 100% explicit, a la M:tG text, even if it means repeating yourself and adding redundancy but then people go "WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS"

Really?

>>50664855
Exactly my point anon, exactly my point.

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>>50664941

The amounts of delusion in this Tau player are off the charts

Sorry but at the beginning the Tau were quite noble bright but GW is pushing them further and further down the dark side and that is more apparent with each book they release about the Tau.

I don't even play sisters and I want plastics. They could be cool for conversion opportunities.

>>50665013

Yeah I think they did, but their nuns are melee. They also made actual Repentia models so I have no idea what the nuns are supposed to be. I think they have pistols too so they're not Repentia.

>>50665016
I feel the same way. Jesus the people that play this game are so fucking dense sometimes.

Wait has SoB finally confirmed to be the meme army that they were always thought of being?

>>50664895
Because most Warlord traits say: "The Warlord gets x"

But since he's not the Warlord it prevents him (the Inquisitior) from rolling on Personal and say getting "The Warlord gains Eternal Warrior" and going "Lol my Warlord is Cato Sicarius so I guess he has Eternal Warrior now"

>>50664941
you raise a good point

>>50664922
you gotta admit the helmets are odd

>Death Guard Prince with wings has 2+ cover and 5+ FNP, not to mention the Pandemic Staff looks very nice
>World Eater Prince with wings has a good chance at a T1 charge and a face-fucking relic daemon weapon that gives 5+ FNP and IWND
>Iron Warrior Prince with Daemon of Tzeentch and the Fleshmetal Exoskeleton has a 2+ armor re-rolling 1s
What other nice/nasty combos are there?

>>50664076
I'm with this anon
>>50664285
I've had my rokkit buggy immobilize a morkanaut.
blow up a bunch of vehicles and are cheap on top of it.

Other than that land speeders, are perhaps the most effective vehicles I've used.
then again I'm from 5e and used them as melta-assault canon

>>50665033
0.02 Throne Gelt has been deposited into your account, Gue'la

Just let me pretend nothing past 4e exists, ok?

>>50665060

The canoness got more orders than any AoS kit. They have transcended the meme.

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>>50664974
They already have Space Skanks.

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>>50665082

Farsight is the hero we deserve

>>50665091
Im okay with this, i never planned to play nuns with guns any way but i was wondering how long it was going to be confirmed that they are a meme army.

>>50665082
Highlight what you wanna spoiler and hit ctrl + s, it's a lot easier that way

>>50664951
no

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA

>>50664974
Or maybe you should just fap to porn like normal people do.

>>50664998
>and so has any trust for gw
Speak for yourself, my CSM just became playable again and I'm having a shitload of fun.

>>50665033
Farsight Enclaves are pretty alright though.

>>50665060
Yes, and they will be squatted soon.

Why do people hate sisters so much all of a sudden?

>>50665091

I don't doubt that SoB are more popular now, but I feel like that Canoness only sold out because it was exclusive and scalpers gonna scalp.

Quick rules question.
The Night Lords army section says that no unit can take a mark of chaos.
Does this mean I can take a Daemon Prince without a mark or does it mean I can't take Princes at all?

>>50665147
>normal people

Where do you think you are?

>>50663903
>epub sucks ass
>
>anyone who uses it is a retard.

Depends on if you're viewing it on a tablet screen or printing it out.

>>50665091
Man Ironjaws sold plenty. if they really only had 500 Verydian, it has not outsold Ironjaws yet.

The Irinjaws hype is real, its top tier orks for AoS AND i bought like 5 boxes of Brutes to convert as meganobs, and i know im not the only one who uses them for that.

>>50665202
"Daemon of..." is not "Mark of..."

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>>50664617
Don't worry about it anaon. 40k isn't about winning, it's about painting models that you like and occasionally playing with them.

Pic related, ordered these this week mostly for painting / having fun with because I like how they look. You don't want to be the guy that plays an army they hate just so they can win until the meta shifts.

>>50665168
>all of a sudden

You new? This is just the same SoB hate that's existed for years. It just happened to be silent for the past few months.

>>50663940
For my NL I'm planning on using a SM venerable dread I had lying around, slightly converted to look eeeevil but not fucked by the warp.

>tfw still have two contemptors and two helbrutes stockpiled

>>50665228
yeah i mean clearly a Deamon of khorne could have a mark of slaanesh.

>>50665249
Well now you just look retarded

>>50664894
>https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Night-Lords-Legion-Contemptor-Dreadnought
If I only had the money dude, if only. Also, not Task Force, the normal Calth and I`ll just paint the skulls on them. This will be fucking pain in the ass, but beggars aint choosers.

>>50665249

He means in game terms. You can take a daemon of any god, it doesn't have "Mark of...".

>Relentless havocs with heavy bolters

I know it's not the most efficient use for them, but HOLD MY DICK MORTARION I'M ROLLING THIS BUCKET O DICE

>>50665296
Yeah, but I think that guy was referring to the fact that daemon princes have to take marks, and how that works with no units being able to take marks as NL

>>50664722
>Wraiths and Riptides
>TEQ's
>Wraiths caring about having their armor save reduced to a 3+
I mean, I didn't really expect more out of an Orkfag, but come on.

>>50665235
I've literally never seen any sob hate before the last few days. Why would anyone hate them?

It's not like they're a good army.

>>50665325

Somebody post that "Riptides are basically the Tau's TEQ" copypasta.

>>50665344

They hate them because SoB occassionally make whining threads and spam generals. This was from before the days of SoB updates and rumors. They were making huge fusses about not having plastic models, then throwing a huge shitstorm when they got a digital only codex. People hated IG for a while too because of "muh metal regiment" whining and HFY.

>>50665325
i really didnt expect reading comprehension from an eldar but come on..
Wraithknight being 4+ at best at close vs any orks would at least reward the ork player for catching the thing

>>50665322
They do not have to take marks, they must be made daemon of one of the gods
All Daemon Princes are actually markless, and you can't give them a mark. You can only pledge them to one of the gods, and there is no rule for the NL that stop you from doing that

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>>50664169
>>50664428
no they aren't you weak-fleshed mongrel
you can just paint them anyway you want, from golden armor-white robe custodes style to black and gritty
hell i even try to paint my first skitarii using star wars stormtrooper scheme and they were as rad as hell

>>50665374
>Wraithknight being 4+
Hell make Choppas AP2 vs Wraithknights
>T8>S3(4)

>>50665322
Maybe you should read the rules before jumping into a conversation spouting wrong information

>>50665004
Don't worry, they aren't as stupid as you.

>>50665084

Night Lords Tzeentch Prince with Stormbolt armor has a 2+/2++ rerollable

>>50665364
Traditional shitposting when a "new" codex arrives.

"New" poor girls not even new toys or at least have the new SoB model with special

>>50665400
>skitarii using star wars stormtrooper scheme and they were as rad as hell
You got pics of your Skitaroopers?

>>50665084
Magnus is pretty nasty.

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>>50663852
>>50665219

the fuck are you supposed to read these EPUB's on?

Any app I've tried them on all renders the pages as a broken layout, with the writing on one page, the imagery on the next, etc.....if I'm lucky. If I'm not it just shows the images.

Name me an app that actually renders the EPUB's in the OP correctly with the correct page formatting and text formatting.

>>50665426
I was hoping that with that wording some idiot wouldn't want to claim "Slay the Warlord" against me because of the wording in the rule.

>>50665437
where's the 2++ coming from?

>>50665458

Readium

>>50665458
Redium for PC
Kobo (?) for android
iBooks (most of the time) for apple

Cheapest way to ship sprues that I've sold?

>>50665408
Boys arent the only one with choppas.
But i wouldnt expect an elf shitposter to ever have opened any ork codex.

>>50664076
Sentinels

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>>50665476

Stealth, +1 cover from the armor, and jink

>>50665202
>>50665322

Pic related

I can't take this fucking general anymore, jesus fuck. Non-stop Ork and SoB whining day in day out. Shut the fuck up already and pick a different Faction if it's so bad. You're not getting updated any time soon so why do you faggots act like shitposting on a mongolian horse husbandry forum is going to accomplish anything?

>>50665374
He said Wraith, not Wraithknight.

Not that it makes a difference, a T8 Wraithknight is immune to Boyz anyways.

Most of you Orkfags really are just shitposters pretending, aren't you? There's no way a single fanbase could be THIS retarded.

>>50665461

What does slay the warlord have to do with "For this Warlord Trait"

>>50665508
(Base) Nobz? S4 so hoping to fish for 6s on charge before you become
>S4
Warboss with a Choppa? 8/8 b8

>>50665458
There is no app that makes epubs PDF quality. Readium is the closest, but only the latest epubs from gw look sort of good.

>>50665530
Ah okay, when you said 2++ I assumed invul

>>50665541
This is why generals are stupid. They also make discussions shorter than they could be. I've made a thread that reached 300+ while getting 0-3 comments in a general with the same post.

But the retarded questfags gonna go "hurr stop shitting up the 40k board with 40k threads"

>>50665561

No real way to denote cover with pluses, but yea. That's the meme build.

Personally, I would take a Nurgle NL Prince because the Nurgle powers are actually good, and I don't need the armor. That way, I can focus on murder.

>>50664773
I like it. Though with the Steed he can't charge after moving more than 12 right?

>>50664510
>Boyz are now T4
Gets me every time

>>50665599
cover is +++
2+ 5++ 2+++

>>50665618
I thought +++ was FNP

>>50665573
Quests literally got banished to their own board. You anti-quest shitposters have really got to find a fresher horse.

>>50665541
A lot of it is falseflagging shitposters. Fact of the matter is, there aren't enough people posting in 40kgen for their to be more than a handful of SoB players posting.

>>50665461
There is absolutely nothing in the wording of that to imply that he would get Slay the Warlord. Use your brain.

>>50665627
>>50665618
Thats the issue. Cover has no standardized notation

>>50665645
>their
There, fuck.

>>50665649
>>50665627
>>50665618
+ for armor, ++ for Invuln, just use words for anything else. It defeats the purpose of trying to use +++ when there is no standardized notation and just leads to confusion.

Hey, I've got 105 points left, what should I get? I'm really liking how this list is turning up.

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels V3

-Terminator Librarian, 90
+ML2, 25
+Foe Smiter, 15
Total, 125

-Terminator Company Master, 120
+Storm Shield, 5
+Mace of Redemption, 30
+Auspex, 5
Total, 160

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Multi Melta, 10
Total, 180 (540)

Dedicated Transports
-3xRhinos, 105

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Extra Armor, 10
+Heavy Flamer, 10
Total, 135

Dedicated Transport
-Drop Pod, 35
+Locator Beacon, 10
+Deathwind Launcher, 15
Total, 60

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
+Deathwing Company Standard, 20
+2 Chainfists, 10
+Perfidious Relic of the Unforgiven, 15
Total, 270

Complete Total, 1,395

>>50664958
because someone thought they were being funny and or cute.

Is it at all feasible to try and use Death Guard rules/powers to try and kill units by causing their Strength or Toughness to hit zero?

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>>50665458

>>50665627
Yeah it usually is.

And sometimes they use ++++ for a re-rollable invuln or FnP

>>50665458
azardi

you know, the app that's actually advertised on the BL FAQ page because other retarded fucknuggets like you have asked the exact same question a billion times

>>50665547
T8 are immune to boyz. not from the rest of the codex that uses choppa, jamal.

>>50665696
Might be worth it if it's a huge unit of T3 or something.

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>>50665400
>>50665449
herm ... i repaint them brown for killteam, sorry
have a shitty pic of them now
plus a succesful mix of a sydonian dragoon and an old empire knight from warhammer

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Lucius pattern titans – FW dont sell the luciss warhounds any more, what's the status of lucius pattern stuff now?

were they used in 30k as well as 40k? or only a more recent pattern

>>50665696
skitarii vanguard
30k admech anything with rad furnace
rad grenades
biomancy enfeeble?
nurgle -1 toughness psychic power
nurgle core detachment at max units.
If you have unoptomal alliacnes, you can instantly kill a unit of up to t6 as soon as you get into combat with it

>>50665696

I've been trying to work out how to do exactly that, because Horus Heresy DG can pull that exact trick.

Sadly, it doesn't look like 40k has enough stackable sources of -1T to do it, even to T3 models.

>>50665016
its a pity that 40k doesnt requite an IQ test to buy

>>50665828
IQ tests aren't a particularly good measure of actual intelligence.

That said, the average person is a moron, and I don't really want to see the playerbase get gutted. Sure, it's annoying to have to explain simple rules to an opponent, but I'd rather have a game that lasts five extra minutes because I have to explain how emergency disembarkation works in detail than not get to play at all.

Plus, there's nothing more satisfactory than joining a gaming group and watching their mastery of the rules and their codexes grow over time.

>>50665799
>>50665815
Nurgle has two powers that can give -1S/-1T. Granted, one of them is random.

Would end up needing a pretty heavily psyker base. Daemon allies for a bunch of Nurgle Heralds? More chances at Enfeeble.

>>50665815
I think one of the new Nurgle powers specifically says it stacks.

Take 7 Plague Marine squads from the Formation and get one within 7" then cast the power twice and you wipe a T3 unit.

>>50665710
Azardi still formats weird for me

>>50665904
Curse of the Leper does not say it stacks

>>50665883
>That said, the average person is a moron

I'm guilty of forgetting this, and I know for a fact that I'm fairly intelligent. Apparently I must be well above average, because I've never thought I was super smart or anything. But then life reminds you how stupid people are.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

>>50665904
Doesn't the Nurgling Artifact also give -1T?
If so
>Enfeeble
>Curse of Leper
>Formation
>Nurgling

Gg Loyalists

>>50665787
chinaman sell them for like.. $200 as perfect cast

>>50665344
>It's not like they're a good army.
Wew lad, watch those tourneys and their houserules for rankings much?

Sisters, especially when they could borrow drop pods, were amazingly destructive. Mass amounts of melta, rending heavy flamers and exorcists made them shootier than fucking tau. And before you autists scream that's not possible, most sisters lists had at least 12 melta guns that IGNORED COVER SAVES. Combo with repressors for maximum butthurt.

>>50665618
>cover is +++
No, it's not
Stop trying to push some meme formatting one faggot put on his blog. +++ is FNP, has always been. Cover saves didn't get crazy until 6th edition. Cover didn't matter as much until then. FNP was always there.

But honestly, just say FNP, it's 3 button presses, just like +++

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>>50664894
> Dynamic posing Contemptors
I just finally got the parts needed to finish my own. Dynamic posed contemptors are better than sex. Holy shit all of the joints in the model is amazing.

Although I will say it's incredibly difficult to model a contemptor as taking one knee. I was originally going to model this dude as bracing his conversion beamer across his own knee, but that proved to be far too difficult. So instead I've got him in a "peaking over a corner" stance. So he's presumably pointing at something in the distance for his fire-team

>>50665943
Gift of Contagion does.

But again, it's the random one.

Anyone have a link to an EPUB or PDF of Planetary Empires? I don't see it in any of the Megas.
Note: Not Planetary Onslaught or Planetstrike

>>50664510
thats fucking crazy

1 and 5 make sense and thats all and i play orks

>>50665618
+++ is FNP you idiot

>>50665978
would you happen to know someone that could get me a FW shadowsword ?

>>50666052
>>50665990
FnP isn't a save you stupid shits, you don't list it with the saves.
>muh meme blog

>>50666071
My buddy Al can get them for you.

Anyone ever sold mini's to frontline gaming through their second-hand store? If so, would recommend or try to ebay instead?

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>>50663852
why is epub so tiny? and why cant i make it bigger ffs!

>>50666091
See how much they offer you. Depending on how much you have, what condition, and whether you're trying to sell as a lot, eBay can be a bit of a crapshoot. Not that I think FLG will give you a high quote for crap that wouldn't sell on eBay.

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>>50665991

why does he have ammo pouches?

>>50666085
don't be mean anon
currently the only one on ebay has renegade stuff stuck all over it and shipping is 2/3rd's of the price

>>50666071
>>50666085
Forgot e-mail, sorry.

>>50665710
Yeah, have you tried it? Its shit also.

OH SHIT, /TEEGEE/!
Games Workshops needs some formations for Orks, and asked you to make a couple up for the different Klans, Kults, and factions.
It needs to be fluffy, and since it's Orks, it can only be mildly powerful.

Wat do?

Robo-bros, what's your favorite way of running AdMech?

War Convo, all CultMech or Skitarii, or what?

>>50666130
It turns him into a walking resupply point for the meatlings that surround him. Raptors anon unironically thinks the whole "operator marines" thing isn't retarded.

>>50666163
Make more Space Marine kits and formations.

>>50666111
Set it to "Fit Width."

>>50666163
Copy Paste the Imperial Agent ones, but change them to ork names

Done!

>>50665502

bubble mailers.

>>50666163
If you have a decurion consisting of at least 4 trukks, a warboss, and 2+ dragon dildos, you gain all of the bonuses listed in >>50664510

>>50666163
an orc band that has recently raided a shrine world
they come equipped with looted new sister vehicles and equipment
the sisters do not get rules for the original variant of these

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Was going to make check my old joke list of 6 Penitent Engine.
SoB no longer on BattleScribe. Not even mad since I have basically the same list for 15 years.

Just wanted /tg/ to know so they can keep adding salt.

>>50666130
Don't. Don't feed Raptor Anon.

>>50666077
Never said FNP was a save
Stay mad son

>>50664421
Are you racist or something?

>>50666274
As a sob player, i can only sigh at this whole thing.

>>50666163
>Red Sunz of AnOrky
1-2 units of Warbikers
0-1 unit of Nobz, all equipped with Warbikes
1-2 units of Warbuggies

Warbuggies get the Jink USR
All models with a Warbike resolve their Hammer of Wrath hits as though they have +1 Strength.

>>50666163
3 Warbike squad + bigmek on warbike.

"Mek it fasta : This formation can move up to 18" in its movement phase and flat out up to 36".they can also use their KustoM Jet Engine and do a flat out move. They are counted as jetbike and immune to dangerous terrain while using their KustoM Jet Engine. The constant black cloud comming out of the exhaust give a 3+ cover save to all unit having a model within 6" of any warbike of this formation.

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Know what, I'm sick of this anti-Ork talk that the experts of /tg/ seems to resent whenever Ork problems are addressed.

I put it to these amazing tactical geniuses to come up with an Ork list that is competitive, without needing to resort to Zhadsnark or ITC rule changing.

If boys and trukks and everything else is fine, show us a list that works.

You don't need the codex as the points are on the webapp, so you have no reason to prove what an 1500 / 1850 list for Orks should look like.

>>50666342
Shitty and ridiculous.

>>50666351
No one said Boyz are fine you dumbass. They said trukks are fine but boyz are broken, if boyz were good trukks would no longer be an issue.

>>50666383
You think I'm talking about last threads shit discussion?

No I'm addressing all the claims from every thread. If you're not going to make a list, shut up?

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>>50666335
On the flip side the non updated Battlescribe from my phone still has them.

>>50666342
Wht the fuck garbage am I reading.

>>50666337
This one's nice but a little lacking.

>>50666383
But Trukk's aren't good either. They're just mediocre, which makes them pretty good by Ork standards.

Help!

>Night Lords

>CAD
Sorcerer ML 3, senpai 125
Sorcerer ML 3, senpai 125
CSM X10, 2 PG, 10 CCW, rhino 223
CSM X10, 2 PG, 10 CCW, rhino 223
Predator Dakka 95
dread Autocannon+missile launcher 115

>CAD
Lord TDA, chain 115
Terminators x3, CF, LC 114
Chaos Lord Bike, sigil, power axe, stormplate 145
Bikers PW, 2 MG 105
Raptors PW, 2 MG 130
Raptors PW, 2 MG 130

>Raptor Talon
Chaos Lord JP, Hunt Claws, Aura 120
Warp Talons X5, GoM 160
Raptors X5, PW 110
Raptors X5, PW 110

thats 2145

What should I remove to get 2000 flat?

>>50666417
Make me faggot. You're the one who needs to shut up, no one wants to listen to you bitch anymore. Literally no one has said "boyz are fine" but you keep strawmanning at no one in particular trying to start shit, just kys.

Readium won't open mobi for me

What does /tg/ suggest I get for reading mobi files so I can read those BL stories?

>>50666432
>>50666337
all units outflank, come in on turn 1 or 2, players choice before game begins

>>50665458
It has to be an epub3 compatible reader

>>50666437
30 pts for a fast open-topped 12 capacity transport with an additional minor benefit tacked on is pretty fucking solid. It could use a slight buff to Ramshackle maybe, but for only 30 pts it's goddamn gravy. You can run 10 fucking trukks for the cost of one 5-man Terminator squad ffs.

>>50666478
>>50666432
All units snap-shoot at BS 2.

>>50666478
Auto turn 1 Outflank would be pretty nasty. Maybe let them roll Reserves starting turn 1 + Outflank, + aforementioned benefits.

I'd run it.

>>50666163
>Meanest and Greenest
>Nobz earn their place beside the Warboss through countless battles, pure strength, and the occasional git being hit in the head. Once per assault phase, at the beginning of any fight sub phase of which a unit that is locked in combat and contains at least one Nob can proclaim its using the 'Meanest and Greenest' special rule. The Nob from this unit immediately makes a single special attack against any character, model, or vehicle that it is locked in combat with (even if that character is in a challenge). Resolve this attack at S:User AP2 and give it the instant death rule on a roll of a 6. If the Nob manages to kill a model with this attack, all Ork models in the Nobs unit count as having made a successful charge for the remainder of the fight sub-phase, spurred on by the Nobs display of Ork might.

>>50666495

>OPEN-TOPPED

>NO ESCAPE

>AV 10

>TRANSPORTING ORKS

Need I go on?

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>>50664023
Easy. Scout takes place before the game. they and the transport are treated as the same entity before the game begins. A unit with scout confers it to their transport. If a unit is in a Transport, the reverse must be true as the removing the unit from the board is to represent them being within the transport.


During game however, a special rule must specify that they impact the units removed from play in this manner. Even the Vehicle Damage Table specifies the impact it has on it's occupants.

why should you do anything else?

>>50666462
Kindle desktop app. Mobi is kindle's proprietary format.

>>50666559
>as the same entity before the game begins

Citation needed.

>>50666437
>waaah, my 30 point transport isn't AV14/14/14 with a S:D ram
Fuck off, trukks are fine. Every other assault army in the game would ecstatic to have trukks. It's the occupants that are fucked.

>>50666351
I challenge you to build a Thousand Sons list that is competitive, without needing to resort to Magnus or a bunch of units from another codex.

Any decent novels around about the world eaters legion?

>>50666551
THIRTY
H
I
R
T
Y

POINTS
O
I
N
T
S
what the fuck do orks WAACfags want?

>>50666551
Open-topped is a benefit you retard, it means you can shoot with everything or disembark and assault. No Escape hardly ever comes up, how are you constantly putting your Trukk in range of a fucking template weapon and then not disembarking your boyz?

>AV 10
FOR THIRTY FUCKING POINTS YOU FAGGOT. YOU CAN TAKE TWO OF THESE THINGS WITH UPGRADES FOR LESS THAN ONE 5-MAN TAC SQUAD THAT ON AVERAGE CANT EVEN SHOOT ONE DOWN IN ONE TURN.

>>50666422
Holy shit, this picture fits this update perfectly.
Can someone with photoshop create a sororitas version of that?

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>>50666621
Ahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahaha

>>50664023
Models on a transport brace their weapons at the fire points.

>>50666443
Not really sure why you aren't running the Night Lords FBD.

10-man MEQ squads are shit. Uber-grit squads are too expensive.

That Terminator Squad is turbo-shit.

>>50666607
Well, orkish wave serpents would be nice

>>50666621
it should cost 15 and have the ramshackle special rule.

>>50666495
12 Boyz isn't enough to do any real work.
Open topped means anything heavier than a bolter can cause it to explode, which will kill half its riding units.
Going fast in terrain is a great way to have your trukk become a tomb.

Like I said, it's not a bad unit. Giving your boyz three hullpoints worth of health soak is pretty good, but with so much low AP shooting, you're going to watch it kill its occupants half the time.

>>50666574
thanks anon

>>50666607
Thirty points? Are we just fielding Trukks and nothing but Trukks?

Its 95 points taking a standard Ork squad with 10 boys.

Its 115 points taking min squad Burnas

Its 100 points taking min squad Tankbustas.

Its 155 points taking min squad Manz

It is not a 30 point model unless you just field that fucking model and comes with a tax.

>>50666607
AV 12/11/11 and ramshackle giving a 5+ invul
No opentopped, but assault vehicle
It's not enough to bring us to Eldar/Tau/Space Marine tier, but should be enough to at least match IG

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>How to win with Orks
>Just field trukks with nothing in it

>>50663852
Anyone got a pdf of the Raven Guard supplement and the Angels of Death supplement?

>>50666621
>No Escape hardly ever comes up, how are you constantly putting your Trukk in range of a fucking template weapon and then not disembarking your boyz?
A lot of armies are capable of putting flamer templates on fast-movers.

Warpflame Host with a couple units of Flamers is an absolutely brutal match-up for Orks (not that there are many match-ups that aren't brutal for Orks).

>>50664076
Chimeras are always fun, especially when they can be mini-hellhounds when you give them heavy flammers.

>>50666698
Reminds me of 5e parking lots.

>>50666443
Drop CCWS on plasma gun squads.

>>50666683
I seriously hope this faggot is fucking joking or I will never take Ork whining seriously again.

You want your 30pt junkyard scrapmetal shitbox to have fucking 12/11/11 and a 5+ invuln, and still be a fast assault vehicle??????

That would literally be fucking Eldar tier. That would be the new fucking meta. Lists would just run 25 empty Trukks and then another 10 full of units and leafblow over the field with big shootas.

>>50666621
The delusion you live in and the scenarios you think play in this game are retarded.

Yes, what unit could possibly be within the 12" range required for an Ork assault and flamer it.

What unit could possibly deep strike or lay down a torrent or psychic power.

What unit could possibly fly over and template the trukk.

Moron.

Hmm. Is 325 too much to spend on a kitted out Nurgle Daemon Prince?

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>>50666737
We just need these back as dedicated transports.

>>50666737
I didn't mention fast. So no, that is not eldar waacfag territory.
And isn't it justice to be on almost the same level as half the playerbase after all those years of suffering?

>>50666772
Don't be silly anon, only Tau, SM, and Eldar are allowed anything remotely useful.

>>50666753
>no one should ever be able to hurt my 100 pt unit by dedicating far more points than that to flamering it

>>50666737
you clearly lack any knowledge of 40k.
also the fact of them being shitty OS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE RAMSHACKLE RULE.
THE MORE SHITTY IT LOOKS THE BEST THE INVULN.

>>50666794
And even then they complain about things like Land Raiders.
Heck, i'd kill for that.

>>50666765

How many points is the list?

>>50666804
>THE MORE SHITTY IT LOOKS THE BEST THE INVULN.
Could actually be a pretty nice houserule.
>Hey Bob! Does this look like shit?
>Sure looks like shit, Jim!
>K, 3++ it is then

>>50666799
>5 point flamer
>Wipes out 100 point unit trying to desperately do what its meant to do but has no protection against it even in their metal bahwkses.

We haven't even got to the overwatch charge yet we failed to kill in our shooting phase to make way for our boys in green.

Want to know how I know you play a WAAC faction?

>inb4 he pretends he doesn't and he's just tactical genius.

>>50666835
Looking at using him in 1500 and/or 1850.

>>50666770
with a 10 points reduction, ok.

>>50666765
Yes, but Daemon Princes are almost always too expensive.

Princes are in an awkward spot. If they ever fix FMC rules, they'll become worthless. T5 3+/5++ just ain't durable enough for something that costs as much as Knight.

>>50666804
I am now convinced Orks just attract shitty players and the Faction is not even that bad off. If this faggot seriously thinks a 30pt 12/11/11 5++ assault vehicle makes ANY sense in context of other vehicle stats and costs in this game then there is no way I will ever trust another Ork players perspective on "balance".

Beyond. Retarded.

>>50666846
>5 pt flamer
>discounts the cost of the entire unit carrying it, just 5 pt flamer floating around on its own
Kay.

Also I play Tyranids you stupid fuck.

>>50666862
Well a flying DG prince will have a 2+ jink and FNP re-roll 1s as well. I'm just worried I have to jump through hoops to get EW and/or T6.

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>>50666871
dont you have some weaboos to paint alongside those space furries ?

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>>50666175
For now I'm running a standard skitarii detachment with an allied cultmech detachment of a dominus with a grav/flamer destroyer bodyguard unit.
I'm waiting for IA14 Fires of Cyraxus and hoping it allows me to take some thallax as cultmech troop choices, at which point I'll transition the Cultmech detachment into the primary one and move the skitarii into a secondary role.

>>50666846
>as soon as a Flamer hits a Trukk, every ork inside dies
>you can't count Trukks as a 30 point vehicle, because the unit inside costs points
>but you can count flamers as 5 point upgrades, because the unit carrying it is free
Nobody except for shitposters thinks that Orks don't need buffs, but you don't make people want to commiserate with you when you're such unreasonable cunts.

>>50666871
Yes, yes, let that rage flow through you.

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Is 40k the most nerdy, manchild attracting, pussy repelling thing on /tg/?

>>50666891
Well you somehow ignored the 100+ unit because your 100+ unit spent maybe an additional 5 on a flamer, so of course that means he deserves to wipe out everything else below it and justifies shit rules on shit transports for shit units with no saves.

You've literally made up an argument and then got angry about it. How stupid are you?

>Tyranid player

See, theres the fake stuff.

Also, "dedicating" fire power to fucking kill Orks? Jesus.....

>>50666916
>stefan molyneux
Go back to /pol/

>>50666871
Have you even looked at necron transports?

>>50666916
Not that anon, but people really think that SW are a WAAC army?
They are normal space marines without the options that actually make SM top tier
The only thing they have to balance that are two really strong cc units, that while surely able to win against mid-tier army are still cc units in one of the most shooty edition, without really a way to deal with scatterbikes or the likes

>>50666846
Just buy 'eavy armour for your boyz!
'eavy armour boyz are the best shit, ap5 flamers just bounce off their 4+ armour and they actually survive to strike!

Seriously, get gud.

>>50666941
Ok, so a 80 point squad of min tacs with a combi-flamer destroy a minimum 100+ unit.

Now what?

>>50666959
You would think so, but I've noticed something. Every person who does battle report videos has a wedding ring. I think, out of all the traditional games, 40k is the most normie one. It's sort of like how people who play CoD tend to also fuck bitches, but people who play JRPGs don't.

>>50666967
theres nothing inherently wrong with stefan molyneux, he's just become a figurehead used by /pol/ when they want to end an argument but dont have an argument prepared

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>>50664023

Because /tg/ got wind of Blitz Brigade after 2 years of us using it exactly as written, and blew it up enough that Frontline Gaming noticed it, and because Reecius hates the rules as written, and GW's FAQ team consults with him, it was written out of the rules.

>>50666916
That is rude, you asshole.
Not that guy, but I have a SW and a Tau army.

>>50666175
at first i wanted to run full skitarii, but with the new box at 130 euros, i think i'm going add some nice tank-servitor and robot, which will compensate the fraility of my tinmen
i like to run full footslogging vanguard, with some backup, so it will go nicely together, i hope

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>>50667017
You're speaking to the number 1 advocate for Blitz Brigade in all of /tg/

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>>50666891
>>50666891
>G-G-G-Guys i p-play tyranids i swear desu!
>B-B-Baka! of course i don't have any proof, i'm at school right know.
But I sure dont like anything japanese or play Tau!

>>50667008
>Every person who does battle report videos has a wedding ring.
Even yiff players?

>>50666290
but why ? he's nice and it's a funny theme, without being utterly retarded looking