Warhammer 40,000 general

First for the greatfather.

I just hope I can put Repentias inside a Valkery or a Landraider. So I can use my damn bondage nuns without getting a transport from another codex. Deploying them outside first turn. Move them inside after.

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Age of 40k

plastic sisters in february when? 2020? 2030?

>>50660101
I expect crusaders.

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>>50660181

that's a good question anon

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Dear GW,If you were a fat, ugly, middle aged woman, I would make love to you lovingly and passionately for what you've done to SoB in your latest release.

The sheer amount of salt, tears, butthurt and damage control from SoB players right now transcends mortal understanding of what should be possible. Never in my brief, humble existence have I laughed as loudly as am I right now, while my throbbing, erect penis continues to sprout out fountains of life-juice.I decidedly urge you to continue the cleansing of the SoB fanbase, ignoring their pleas and cries for mercy with righteous authority, building additional momentum until the final, divine blow is struck and the Sisters of Battle are inevitably removed from 40k. The sheer psychic backlash from such an action will resonate around the world, as hundreds (because less than a thousand people play them) of SoB players commit collective suicide, finally ridding the world of their existence. It is in that glorious day, as a hundred souls are sent screaming into the warp to be tortured for eternity by the Prince of Excess, in which I may finally pass away in laughter, knowing the Emperor's divine justice has been dealt and surrounded in a pool of my own cum.

Best regards,
Anonymous

>>50660181
Never, you already got your SoB release.

>>50660181
Never. Zoats and full Necromunda banda in plastic before SoB get anything outside of metal or Resin.

It has been this way since 3rd it will be like this for ever. Rumors about plastic SoB have been wrong since 3rd. No idea why people believe them.

So asume trolls and shitposter. No believes SoB plastic rumors.

>TFW you've been playing sisters since 3rd
>TFW you realise your miniatures are older than some of your opponents

>>50660154
I dont want landrider. Marines use bricks for everything. I want something better lookin.

Lords and retinue
Lots of freakin customization(like CSM 3.5)
Impactfull and tactical acts of faith.
New vehicles, walkers.
Pusity seals
Temple brothers
Bunch of assasins that dont suck
Option for drop pod(even 1 would be cool)
Xenos weapons
Archeotech
Demonhst
Rouge suecide psykers.

>>50660154

The FAQ is thoughtlessly stupid and I think most of it should be disregarded and common sense used as a substitute.
Why would a squad only use a single charge against a vehicle?

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>>50660229
What he said

Rest in shit SoB

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>>50660229

I'll see YOU in February.

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>>50660229
Tell on what turn did the SoB player table you? This is a safe space anon you can tell me.

>>50660308

turn 2, the SoB players table xerself.

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>>50660229
>updated after 10+ years of being ignored
>It's just two shit formations and one of their special characters being removed
>shitty old metal sisters models go up for """"pre-order""""
SAVAGE

>>50660308
>meme armies existing beyond /tg/ shitposts and falseflaggs
>let alone tabling anyone

Yeah man i got rolled by the Sqauts last week. Didn't see those plasma-trikes coming!

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>>50659631

>what is open topped

Wew fukken laddie

>>50660333

Point out on the Rhino where the AP1 touched you.

>>50660340
Do they still keep their old formations?

>>50660176
tellme its fan made satire...pls.

>>50660340
Its ok. We got Super Imperium Friends codex.

I just hope we can mix and match things from all over the codex

But knowing GW some odd restriction will be in place. And out of fucking nowhere a FAQ saying you can't use different armies in the same game.

>>50660229
Agreed! Finally the SoB are dead! May their grave be filled with worms.

>>50660380

yeah he has been spamming it for the past few threads.

>>50660101
>What do you expect from the Inquisition codex?
More space marines. Except this time it'll be super space marines, duper superer space marines, and S3/T3 girl space marines.

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How could we do for fixing Tyranids?

Imo they are one of the coolest looking races of the setting

>>50660229
I'm going to laugh so hard if the rumors for onces are actually true and by some cruel universe joke. SoB get new models in resin along with an Elder level codex.

It would be rather funny.
Till then I'll continue to shitpost being pro-skub or anti-skub just to produce salt as usual

Hey, at least that one hipster anon who preferred metal models over plastic's happy, right?

You all remember him, the anon who spammed sisters and asked semi-retarded questions, though some were legitimate for a new player, and stated that he was in it for the metal models.

Are haemonculus covens fun?

Would Death Guard, Black Legion and Night Lords still ally now?

Because I vaguely remember that Mortarion, Horus and Konrad were buds.

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>>50660368
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>>50660287
>they're still trying to damage control
Please livestream your suicides, your new Codex can only be used as fap material for so long.

Top fucking Kek I can't breathe.

>>50660287
finally shut the hell up februaryfag

>>50660429

yes, they are a nice change from regular DE

>>50660429
yes

What's the deal with sister hating? I don't okay the army, but I just don't see the appeal of laughing at what is objectively terrible balance.

>>50660432
Mort didn't like Konrad, Konrad just admired Mort's way of fighting. Horus was actually Mort's onlyfriend and only reason he had joined the Traitors. A decision he would regret greatly, as he was soon surrounded by witches, sorcers, and psykers, then tricked by Calas Typhon into corrupting the entire legion into Plague Marines, and he into that which he hated most. A powerful sorcerer.

>>50660387
Someone was molested by nun.
>>50660434
you must be 18+ to post.

>>50660466
The Sisters fanbase is perhaps the second least liked fanbase after Tau. Even then, it could be argued that they're worse.

I'm fine with them in-universe, but the people that play them in real life are absolutely more cancerous than most.

>>50660446

You shouldn't be on 4chan while in school.

>>50660466
I dont get that either but I guess its 4ch way...

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>>50660478
>y-you're a child!

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So, I've found this list online and copypastad it. How much butthurt will this bring, and is it worth trying to build it?

>>50660466
this if 4chan after all. people laugh at the suffering of others.

>>50660466
They just don't fit into 40k, neither them nor their fanbase.

>>50660466
It's manchildren being manchildren. It comes with the nature of 40k, where neckbeards laugh at fans of other armies who get shafted by the devs. Usually it's space marine players laughing at Dark Angel, Chaos, or anything else, while the Eldar players masturbate in space marine tears.

This shit is exactly why 40k is the COD/Halo of /tg/. I quit in mid 5th edition. Ex-Ork player.

>>50660466
4chan. Basically that.

Personally I have no idea why people are in favor of keeping armies with bad rules just to spite people is beyond me.

Personally either people are just trolling or the shitposter are very loud.

Why do people hate Tau players?

>>50660487
I'm pretty sure Ultramarines, the army of primary colours for primary people, top both of thosr in universal hatred.

>>50660466

Same people that browse /pol/, /b/, and eventually spilled over from /v/.

Why do people like AdMech? They are the lamest army in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>50660552
New I2 melee race meme?

>>50660539
Because Tau's MC shooting spam is very strong, and very unfun to play against.

>>50660539
Most of the times they are weeaboos. Also tau in General are strikingly out of place in 40k universe

>>50660535
>Personally I have no idea why people are in favor of keeping armies with bad rules just to spite people is beyond me.

It's 40k. If you're not playing the current OP army, and obliterating the opponent in the most un-fun way possible, then you're doing it wrong. And the more new(er) armies get shafted, the less new stuff you have to buy.

If you don't reply, it'll waste away.

>>50660540
Not really. Wardian marines, sure, but even then they weren't that bad. Just poorly fluffed.

Ultramarines are too vanilla and popular to be the most hated, there's too many good things about them. Color scheme is number one.

>>50660552
Mechanical engineering students with Stockholm syndrome
i am one of them

>>50660466
They attract the worst kind of people to 40k, being an all-female army and that. Queers, nu-males, and generally people who are shit to play with/against.

>>50660539
Same reason people hate Orks, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Sisters, Guardsmans, or Mechanicus... They're not roided-out ass fuckers in power armor.

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>>50660497
Wow a list that's even more mechanically boring than mine

Impressive

>>50660577
Ultramarines have only ever been popular with the little timmy assfires of the 40k world. Even before the Wardian codex, they were universally laughed at and hated. Their color scheme looks like a 5th grader's idea based on using "best colors". Even now they're hated more than anything else in the game. Even other space marine players hate them.

>>50660365
Open-topped doesn't turn bolter glances into penetrations.

>>50660589
What? It's never been about girl power or anything. It's always been about how an army of the meek, with absolute faith, becomes powerful.

>>50660564
40k is very unfun to play...

>>50660589
I mostly played them because I found the concept of nuns with guns funny.

Also I run them as an Inquisitors personal Battle Harem. So I change rules on the fly. Playing with Marines/SoB/IG as I like

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>Just fielded the new IW
>4++ will not die, daemonic possession Helbrute with Autocannon
>Shoot oncoming trukk open, half the boyz dead
>The fucker can challenge, wrecking every klaw-nob
>Make it to Grukk's mob, tear him in half like it's nothing.
>Brought down by weight of klaws
>Just in time for the Rage Maulerfiend to hit home and clean up (They were elsewhere punching dreads/kanz to death).
>Mfw

And before you ask, the Lootas were too busy being torched by a single Oblit and stared down by 2 Mutilators they had to deal with.

I felt bad, is this how Eldar feel?, but he plays Alpha legion too so he'll have fun with this book soon enough, no doubt drown me in cultists .

Anyway, point is a Helbrute did something for the first time ever and i couldn't believe it.

>>50660466
>I just don't see the appeal of laughing at what is objectively terrible balance.
The sisters codex is balanced, it's just boring. Sure, Penitent Engines, Repentia, and Celestians are shit but they're shit because assault is shit and T3 assault is even shittier. No way to fix that without writing something absurd.

Gonna start 40K, what is the best between SM and Tau for a beginner ?

>>50660621
Anon, you're projecting. Calm down and take a deep breath, you're just mad that you didn't get a very good update.

>>50660649
Cool story bro.
Nobody plays Orks anymore.

>>50660661
Space Marines for sure. They have a nice power level that isn't too OP as long as you stay away from cheese.

>>50660662
I quit 5 years ago. It wasn't even because of an update to one of the armies I played.

Hi, new Ork player here

I posted a while back looking for advice and was told I was baiting so I'm trying again.

I've got a squad of 6 Nobs in a Morkanaut and was wondering how to equip them - Big Choppas and kombi-rokkits seem good.

I was told when I bought the models this is a fluffy and effective combo.

>>50660635
>what is IG

>>50660644
You're on the minority then, I do feel sorry for you. But hey, there's always Orks for 'comedy'.

>>50660679
Altight then, I assumed you were a butthurt Sisters player.

>>50660697
I'm sorry anon.

>>50660619
As I said, just copypasted. I never even played the game, and just have the Necron Starterbox but I want something to work towards. And my LFGS happens to have a 25% discount on everything. So, why not try to find something that might even do some work when playing?

>>50660365
>>50660623

Wow, the writer of a shitty fandex doesn't know the rules.
Figures.

>>50660697

Morkanaut isn't worth its points. Drop it for a trukk, or get a stomps instead.

You can't go wrong with big choppas.
Drop the rokkits. They're only AP3 and most will miss.

Get a painboy for the nobs if you can.

>>50660635
That's pretty much IG, anon.

>>50660706
>I'm sorry anon.
What do you mean?

Elite melee infantry with a mean AT punch at range, all in a deadly walker with a wide range of guns - it's a strong combo.

>>50660678
Ok thank. What do you mean by staying away from cheese ?

>>50660679
>quit playing 5 years ago
>he still bitches to this day
SoBfags, everyone.

>>50660709
You aren't that smart, but I forgive you

>>50660619
I want to play Necrons but the mandatory Tomb Blades in the Reclamation Legion suck ass.
I hate, hate these goofy models and will never buy or play them but going without the Decurion seems dumb and like crippling myself.

I just want to play a classic Necron Warrior, Immortals, Destroyer force.

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>>50660702
This is why I've always run Guard and Sisters together ever since Witch Hunters. Them together is such a great sight. The Sisters whipping the Guard up into a religiously motivated frenzy and bayonet charging. S3, T3 fuck yeah, as we die horribly.

>>50660697
Don't be stupid, claws on everything for that meaty charge out of the Morkanaught, any tank in your way will be toast. this is why nobz in a 'naut is feared

Now you wanna give someone a Waaagh! banner for the 1+ WS, but here's a trick only the pros know about. You can take the Waaagh! banner on anyone since it doesn't swap the weapon, do it multiple times and it fucking stacks. at WS10 how will anything hit? even a Daemon prince will miss all day.

Get ready for Chaos players to tell you you're cheesy as hell, but don't listen to them. also ignore blatant shitposts like this dude doesn't know what hes talking about >>50660728

>>50660738
Are you having a giggle or are you just the gullible sort?
>>50660745
Oh, does space odin usually use a trip? I don't recall.

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>>50660766
Oh me too anon, i think they look dumb as fuck
But Decurion is nice, and fluffy, and i figured that they used to be messengers / light cav in the days of flesh

Pic related is not my paintjob btw

>>50660743
Mostly just the overpowered combos and such, which is considered cheese. Like grav weapons with amplifiers being too effective at anti-tank, etcetera. You're fine anon.

>>50660769
T3 armies are the most fun I had playing 40k Im glad to leave the marines in the shelf.

>>50660743
Flier spam, grav amps, grav centurions, that kind of thing.

>>50660729

>mfw I play IG and SoB

>>50660743

The cheese, OP stuff in C:SM is hard to just stumble on, they have to be built that way.

Grabbing the Start Collecting box and the upcoming Skyhammer Tactical Squad box will give you a great, well-rounded starting army.

Altogther, it'll have:

>Terminator Captain
>2 Tactical Squads
>Drop Pod
>Venerable Dreadnought

That, with the right gear, could be a 750pt army.

>>50660841
This guy gets it. Now I have Militarum Tempestus to play too.

>>50660827
Same. I started with Marines, then switched to Guard and Witch Hunters. Now I have Inquisition, SoB, Militarum Tempestus and Guard models. Just a shame to field them all I'd have such a weak large point list.

>>50657049
>7. Why? For reference, whenever any other unit in the game has inherent FNP, it's explained as being part of cybernetics or a medikit or something. There's nothing inherent to Orks that would warrant this.
Actually, the T4 ork boys get is also to represent their ability to ignore pain while fighting. They do indeed seem to 'feel no pain' when in the middle of a waaaagh.

>You have some good ideas, but taken all together, these concepts would make Orks more powerful than any other army in the game right now.
Well yes, that would make sense. Because one of two things will happen:
1.Orks are the most powerful and then the next edition drops, or
2. Orks are the first codex for the new edition, and every other codex creeps hard until they're irrelevant again

>>50660649
But anon, all the things you listed sound god awful.

Why would anyone waste power klaw squads on a hellbrute that has a single TW autocannon for its firepower?

Literally just ignore it?

Any story of success that involved an ork player who brought trukks is immediately negated. Why the fuck would anyone ever buy trukks?

>>50660859
This is why I think people bitching and moaning about SoB are just trolls.

Anyone that plays SoB plays a mix with other armies. We know full well SoB suck.

I just play SoB now to defeat the idiots trying to netlist and formation spam to win.

If I loose oh wow big deal. If they loose the rest of the players will be busting their balls for ages to come.

>>50660803
>>50660838
>>50660849
Well, thank to you. If you have other tips for well start please tell me

>>50660904
They look cool

Why don't you guys just play whatever codex you like?

>>50660904
>Ork trukks are bad
ugh, i wish this meme would die

>>50660697
I can't tell if this is bait or not desu.

If GW tries to sell nobs in a naught I wouldn't be surprised if some poor Anon who missed the meme got tricked into buying it by GW staff.

If this is real then you got tricked, it's an awful combo. You can't charge out of a naught but GW didn't even fucking realise this (someone post the fucking picture). Both nobs and Morkanaughts are utterly useless.

>>50660922
Don't bring land raiders against Necrons.

>>50660922
The Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Space Wolf chapters have their own Codices. Be sure to remember this in case you want to play them or a DA or a BA successor!

I say DA or BA as Space Wolves cannot have sucessor chapters.

In a related note, are there any chapters that have caught your eye?

>>50660904
>Just ignore shit that's walking towards you and killing you
>Just ignore shit that's right in-front of you and your transport is dead

You might as well just post "Why the fuck would any ever play Orks?" Then you might have a good point

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>>50660466

Just the fanbase is not liked. Before the recent moves by GW towards sisters you had people trumpeting sisters as potential space marine level of sells, that idiot who spammed pics of sister units from the GW online store asking 'how do I SoB' general after general, etc. Just generally obnoxious behaviour that made them hated so people are going to jump and ride their ass if things aren't turning out well for them.

How long has Ahriman not had terminator armor? I could have sworn he did, but the traitor legion datasheet only has a 3+.

>>50660941
They are literally the worst transports for any Ork unit bar MANZ though.

Every single game with trukks:

>yeah lets go WAAAAGH :^)
>something shoots trukk t1
>trukk explodes
>half the orks die
>you payed 35 points to kill half your orks, or give them protection against protection against... fuck all

Is there any reason not to take a looted wagon instead of a trukk baring the fact you might've crammed the fuck out of heavy support?

>>50660406
It's no simple fix. They need a drastically different Codex to the point that it would require dozens of pages of explanation.

>>50660841
>>50660859

>I started with Marines, then switched to Guard and Witch Hunters. Now I have Inquisition, SoB, Militarum Tempestus and Guard models.
Holy shit, are you me?

>>50660952
I didn't watch the chapters in details yet, where can i have informations ? What are the most importants chapters ?

>>50660999
>30 points
>assult vehcle
what the fuck do you WAACfags want?

>>50660994
Never had termi armor

>>50660961
So shitposters. Shame on you /tg/ feeding trolls.

Even GW is confuse about the Canonnes sales. Maybe /tg/ is confuse as well wanting boob Marines but feeling dirty for wanting them

>>50660955
>two S7 shots are killing my swarms of 6 point models
And why would you charge a model you can only kill with a single model in your entire unit? Fair enough if he didn't realise it was a character but it's still a shit tarpitt.

>>50660999
Trukks have been shit since 5th edition, where 12 boys swinging at I3 became fucking worthless in combat.

>>50661004
Seems like we got a few of us with the correct opinions.

>>50661020
for 7 points more you can get an assault rhino, why would you not take this option?

>>50661001
>It's no simple fix. They need a drastically different Codex to the point that it would require dozens of pages of explanation.
Why? Just make them play like in DoW.

>>50661042
Just not trolls or shitposter claiming super legit rumors or stupid shit like prepare your anus for Eldar level rape codex.

I bet the waacfags started all this shit so they didn't have to play Eldar or Tau to waacfag.

>>50661057
>looted wagon
>1/6 chance of not doing anything
>not fast
>not offcial rules
man Orkfags are bad at this game

>>50660406
+1 wound for all models.

>>50661020
15/15/15, 5HP, Armoured Ceramite, Fast, Immune to Lance & Haywire, -5 to D weapon results, carry capacity of 100, Immune to No Escape

>30 pts

>>50661078
>ork players would still complain that its not fully immune to the D

Anon any idea to a competitive Black Templar list?

>>50661071
>not offcial rules
its white dwarf rules for 7th you gaping retard, how is that not official?

It has twice the durability of a trukk for 7 points more and you think it's shit... nice one Anon.Totally not grasping at straws here.

>>50661103
Play Eldar

How do I make a competitive but fun dark eldar list?

>>50661088
But anon...

>>50661113
Play Space Wolf

>>50661115
The knight archerons chain fist gives +1 to the D chart when targetting models with an av value

>>50658694
>GW does not make new models better or old, popular models worse in order to sell shit.

What are carnifex.

>>50661057
>rhinos
>durable

Do all Night Lords wear those funny bat-helmets? I wanted to start a Night Lords force, but Im sure as fuck I wont be buying a conversion set for all my fucking raptors and talons.

>>50661146
Lets add to the list Wraith Knights and StormSurges

Would say Magnus but haven't seen it on game yet.

Also Rhinos are a wild ride of good/bad rules

>>50660744
Nope. Ex-Ork player. But thanks for trying.

>>50661163
they are a relic from yester year. go check out some of the horus heresy models to get an idea of 'modern' night lords

>>50660994
never.

>>50661174
So do I need to buy something else now, or do I just paint them NL colors?

>>50661163
batwings are out
skullface is in

>>50661113
>>50661103

Yep.

Counts as World Eaters.

I'm dead serious. World Eaters now play as better Black Templars than Black Templars.

>>50661060
>/v/ trash
Are you baiting? Fuck outta here.

>>50661199
honestly buying either BaC or BoP and useing them. NL dont go in for mutations very much.

>>50661163
>>50661199
You may just say that your Chaos Lord thought those wings were ridiculous so he forced all his army to abandon them/thought they were something only a great warrior could use so only his chosens/whatever can use them

>>50661146
My theory on GW power is that the limited game dev games (like 3 whole games probably) they have nerf all the cool shit. But don't actually explore the codex properly. So all the lame shit no one played is strong. So for Tsons all the actual cool shit the reason you are there, the dust marines are shit, cause someone stomped the designer with them. But since that same guy thinks daemons are for fags no one even played the pink horrors so they are stronk.

>If you have something strong and its cool and simple to use it will be nerfed unless the designer has a hardon for it.

Now that the new book is out, how the fuck do I start bulding chaos? I was thinking about ethier death guard or alpha legion, but dunno yet. What should I get for them?

>>50661216
The shoe is on the other foot. I member World eater fags proxy space wolf book. To bad nothing happens to space wolf players.

>>50661254
Tau

>>50661171
Cry more SoBfag.

>>50661218
Your tears are delicious.

>>50661260
Play one of the T3 Imperium armies. One edition your combination of models might be decent/good for like 6 month.

Anyone remember the terror of Valkeries when they first came out? Fun times.

>>50661146

You can say that about the whole NIds codex:
Tervigons good, nerfed, sold enough
Trygons good, nerfed but maybe not sold enough because mawlocs pretty good.

Genestealers, remember when they were good? 2 editions later they sad in Tyranid armies.

Hive guard, BTFO

Next edition the flyrant is toast. I could go on, but it just gets depressing

>>50661103
Competitive BT is hard because their chapter tactics and traditional composition (I.e. no devs) really offers very little or actively works against the things that are good in the Space Marine list at the moment.

If you want to be competitive consider running your BT using Ultramarines tactics and using one of the the competitive demi-company drop pod lists running around.

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>>50661282
SoB bashing is like mocking an abused wife. They are already dead

>>50661285
Early 6e the Vendetta spam

>>50661303
>>50661103
I thought Black Templars got squatted. Are they still a thing?

>>50661282
>Thinks I'm talking about SoBstories
Bruh, read the reply chains before looking like a fool.

>>50661334
They are the SoB of the Marines but even more sad.

>>50661113
Top level competitive is unlikely. For local competitive try Venom-spam or Raider Gunboat-spam with fighters/reavers/haywire scourges.

>>50660582
Oh fuck.

>>50661334
A chapter tactic in vanilla marines with 3 unique units.

Not that they were that unique to begin with. More snowflake marine books need to be rolled in.

>>50661334
They are included in the C:SM, as the second army with most named IC and a troop unit that can be used only by them
Sadly they are really assault-heavy and would like to use footslogging and Land Raider tactics so they don't play that well

>>50661174
>>50661204
wait what? that means I cant field my bat helmets NL now? wtf I knew nothing about this change.

>>50661113
Play Eldar Corsairs.

No seriously. They aren't Craftworld good, but they are still really damn good. They take items from both Craftworld and Dark Eldar.

Like 25 point shadowfields.

>>50661157
I'm not saying they're durable, but if you can swap out fast for +1 AV on the sides and front for 7 points its always a good choice.

You can also take a fucking killkannon on them so they can't really be ignored either.

>>50661373
God you're fucking autistic

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>>50661163
Nah. Go with Forgeworld's skull helmet motif. Even if you don't get the FW bits you can paint the normal CSM with a bone colored faceplate.

>>50661403
fuck you I have assburgers.

>>50660229
Ministorum Delegation is the only way you'd ever field Arco-flags now.

>>50661407
Oh, ok. Is the night lords box from BaC a good pick up for a start? I think it uses the new models.

>>50661403
Everyone does, you aren't some special fucking snowflake

>>50661410

Then he literally just stated a fact.

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guys, why does Khorne and Slaanesh have animosity (and hatred rules, or used to anyway) for each other, when clearly Khorne and Tzeentch seem like the more likely candidate for hating each other with Khorne's outright hatred and anger at anything psychic?

I never understood this. This may also be ret-conned by now, I've not touched the game for 15 years.

>>50661103
Instead of Las-Plas Crusader squads, run grav-grav.

Inquisitor Karamazov can make his S10 AP 1 orbital strike have no scatter if he centers the blast on a friendly model. Crusaders drop podding in could overwhelm the enemy with targets and get turn 2 charge.

Skyhammer with no or few heavy weapons in the dev squads.

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SoB fans

>>50661296
>You can say that about the whole NIds codex:
Very true, but carnifex were the original. It was the most blatant sign that GW purposely did this shit. That's why they're still remembered as the poster child for "every player has one, so nerf it and sell something new that's similar but better."

So, do you think the next mandatory tyranid unit will be another totally new choice, or new options on an old one that previously didn't come with those options in the kit?

I have a star phantoms list and am considering a dev cent squad in a drop pod instead of a shooty termie squad. What should I arm them with to be all-rounders that are good in a few different situations?

>>50661334
Folded back into the Space Marines Dex. They still have unique chapter tactics though, like Fists, Scars, Hands, RG, Salamanders, etc.

>>50661441
Its because Slaneesh makes her/his/its followers kill for fun and pleasure, not for the thrill of battle and blood for the blood god. But Khorne also hates Tzeentch, but giving him hatred agianst him and Lewd-god would be 2good. Also, he proabl hates nurgle. And everyone who isnt Malal. He hates Malal slighty less.

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>>50661475
Back in the day when you fielded Khorne and Slaanesh or alternatively Nurgle and Tzeentch daemons on the table with each other, if they got too close to each other you would have to roll to see if their animosity got the better of them and they started fighting each other instead of the enemy.

Does that not happen anymore?

>>50661420

>>50661441
Tzeentch set up a big Maury episode between them, started a war.
Got Slaanesh so buttfrustrated that it made the one person trying to cheer it up dance 5ever.

>>50661450

Carnifex was nerfed because it was a no brainer though, people forget that. Though we have come a long ways from 6 carnifex Nidzilla list.

I believe it will be a new model, probably a flier to replace the flyrant who just got btfo, and people already have enough harpy/crones.

Then next edition drops 2 months later and its worthless.

>>50661503
Dunno, not a demon player. But I thibk that warks like that if you get too close to the other daemons, there is a chance that they dont do anything for that turn, just if they were on Come the Apocalypse.

>>50660287
I'm honestly curious what you will do if your shit-posting becomes true and there really is a full plastic release come Feb?

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>>50661420
You mean this bundle from Forgeworld? If you can afford it sure. That will get you a cool ass looking force from which to expand. Keep in mind that they'll have a lot less bling on their armor than standard CSM so may look a little out of place next to stuff like Raptors. So going that route may tempt you further down the FW hole.

The cheaper alternative would just be to grab some FW helmets to mix in with standard CSM models.

>>50661441
It's never made much sense desu

As anon >>50661475 points out, this is generally the fluff but the stupid thing is killing for fun & pleasure and the "thrill of battle" are basically synonymous.

I've always seen it like so

>Khorne loves killing shit and war
>Slaanesh comes along after too many space elf orgies
>suddenly loads of transexuals start getting sexual pleasure from killing and war
>itsnotsupposedtobethisway.jpg
>Khorne angry because Slaanesh followers are gaying up his favourite pass time
>starts rivalry with the new god

>>50661559
Bitch about shit quality and bad rules?

>>50661503
No. Daemons of different Gods work together as well as different soldiers in the same ig regiment, except they can't join units together.

Instead of any unit animosity, daemon armies are subject to the warp storm, which can hurt daemons of one God randomly.

>>50661580
I've always seen it as khorne and slaanesh being tsundere for each other.

>>50661579
I mean, they look sweet, but the thing that is kinda weird for me is the termies. Arent Night Lords should be all about fast strikes in and out? And I really hope that I can afford it when I`ll add up the paints (the horror). Any of you know how many paints do I need for painting my Edge Marines?

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Choose one unit from a faction you do not play to be buffed, because damn it, it deserves to be scary.

My vote goes to the Carnifex. Those things have always been iconic to 'Nids for me and I wish they were as terrifying as they ought to be.

>>50661633
>I-it's not like I like you or anything Slaanesh, baka!

>>50661503
Nope. We're all a big happy-ish family.

Only thing is Heralds can only join the same type of Daemons as themselves.

I am a little sad how the Daemonic Incurison detachment pushed so hard for mono-god lists. Would of kinda liked a Daemonic Host for core, which had options for all Lesser Daemons, Daemon Beasts, and a Chariot with a Mandatory 1-4 Heralds where the more different gods you took the better bonus you got.
>Then again I am a fan of Undivided

>>50661222
Kelly clearly plays Eldar and SW.

>>50661644
St. Celestine needs to be buffed back into existence and then buffed some more.

>>50661644
They're pretty good if you take a stone crusher carnifex desu m8.

Just convert a little wrecking ball and extra claws onto it and it becomes a +1T carnifex that cleaves every model in base contact with it.

>>50661644

Dreadnought.

I play CSM. I should be afraid of the entombed warriors bringing their old grudges to bear.

>>50661580
It's pretty much this.

Each of the Chaos Gods is kind of a cliche archetype of people. Khorne is the normalfag jock/chad muscular meathead kind of guy. Sure, he hates scrawny nerd psykers like Tzeentch because he finds them pathetic, but he REALLY hates the sissy emasculated weirdo tranny shit that Slaanesh is into.

Tzeentch and Nurgle hate each other because one is the snivelling tall and lanky thick glasses nerd and the other is the fat, smelly, greasy unwashed neckbeard nerd, and they get into nerd arguments over which was the best Star Trek series and shit like that.

>>50661078
>not assault vehicle

Otter shiite

>>50661677

leave the poor SoB players alone anon, its much too soon to be doing this to them.

>>50661644
>by Andy Chambers

Sigh. Long gone is that time.

>>50661643
Sure, but they still have Termies. Teleport assaults are pretty fast and you aren't flying Raptors through space when you want to assault a ship. Still, if that bothers you just pick up the conversion bits separately.

>>50661702
Lost Celestin
Got Valkeries in Return.

Not even mad

>>50660729
I'm pretty sure the IG is more about how an army of the meek with armor out the ass can do things

Sisters rely much more on their faith
Guardsmen rely on the battery of basilisks hitting more enemy than ally troops

What role do banshees fulfill? They can't sweep the units they're supposed to sweep and against anything else scorpions are much much better

>>50661644

I would say that Dark Eldar melee needs auite a bit of all-round buffing. Every time we've played my Skitarii hang on for far too long and allow my Infiltrators or Dragoons to pull them off me.

>>50661720
The seperate valkyries still suffer from being a different faction, and thus the SoB can't start on them.
Real dumb move on GWs part

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Reminder.

Also reminder that raptors literally don't exist in Death Guard and never existed in Death Guard. Not even a case of "There were some but far less than other legions" like bikes, DG never used assault marines at all because every tactical carried a bolter and pistol/CCW.

>>50661760
That got to be speculation. I doubt GW took the time to separate faction in the Super Imperium Friends copy past codex.

>>50661711
The man is a genius and his books were incredible. If we had him back today 40k would be fixed in 4 months.

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Is this competent? Also, there is an Imperial Space marine in the first tactical squad.

>>50661714
Well, it does seems that it would ne cheaper to get the bitz by themselves. And I shall build an raptor only army.

So SoBfags are btfo, but for my mechanical brothers, it is a good time to be alive.

Enginseer returns to the fold, providing a buff and repair support
Easy access to Psykers for dirt cheap
Easy access to flyers via the Aeronautica

What a world

>>50661776

nothing in that text or in the ryles suggest Death Guard didn't use "any" bikes at all, just a general dislike of using bikes and jump infantry, not a BAN of using it in the legion

>>50661776
if they literally didnt exist, wouldnt the highlighted part say gave no instead of gave little?

>>50661729
>Guardsmen rely on the battery of basilisks hitting more enemy than ally troops
>"You know, faith in the Emperor is all well and good, but hearing a shell explode on some traitor is also quite motivating."

>>50661853
Oh shit I didn't even think of that.

My Skitarii are going to LOVE this book, fuck!

>>50661747
deny overwatch and attempt to kill heavy infantry with armor. the exarch can do some work with the glaive thing but only kills 2 or 3 marines. maybe if you doom/guide them they can work or if you need to kill some tau/guardsmen

>>50661776
you have the tism.

>>50660229
HOL UP

They don't even get Objective Secured?

Man I thought the SoBfag salt here was good, but on Dakka it's fucking GLORIOUS.

Haven't enjoyed this much schadenfreude since the liberal tears on Election Night.

>>50661974
>have faith battle sister
>keke

>>50661976
It must be really great to be a basement dwelling sociopath.

IF player here, should I take my centurion devestators with the typical Grav set up, or go TL lascannon to take advantage of my army wide tank hunter trait?

>>50661853
Pretty much. I already used the Inq book for some psyk and Chimeras, now I can have a ground-attack flyer of some kind.
Not too versed in the aircraft, is there anything that could do a good job shooting down Stormravens and still be OK if there isn't any?

>>50661974
Yep. The salt is kind of justify. Specially when it requieres an Elite slot of SoB

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>>50661989
Fucking hell.

Herpaderp. Open-topped matters for the incredibly common higher-S weapons SM get alongside their plethora of psychic powers & BS4.

No, bolters cant explode a Trukk, but their being S4 exploding deathtraps since Bailin' Out! and Ramshackle were lost is pretty fucking problematic.

I guess keep pretending that bolters are all Spess Mehrenes use, but good luck on the TT with that.

>>50661998
lascannons and missiles, my dude. Enjoy exploding fucking everyone - I do.

>>50660766
Not nearly as bad if you mod them some; Rob from Spikey Bits had a great conversion, but it requires bits from the Ghost Ark kit.

>>50661990
Keep it up and you might be able to compete with the tears on dakka!

>>50661974

I don't expect anyone to seriously use that formation.

Is the only source of a portable lascannon for CSM the resin havocs?

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>Chaos supplement was good
>Loyalist supplement is bad

WHAT STRANGE NEW WORLD IS THIS?

>>50661776
Your statment is objectivly wrong, stopbeing a fuck wad

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>>50662007

>>50662077
It's not bad, just the Sisters part is (and even then not that bad, especially compared to shit like Thousand Sons).

It's 99% SoBfaggots whining.

>>50661832

Why a chaplain when you can get a captain or a librarian?

Never take command squads if you want to be competent, or take a command squad full of regular veterans all with special weapons, and maybe an apothecary.

Never take plasma / grav / melta pistols, waste of points. They can work on assault squads maybe, but take a flamer or melta before that.

Centurions are better with grav amps

You have many footslogging tactical units, the program allows you to use the dedicated transport option if you select the rhino under the unit, and it will add to that unit.

You can make the dread more versatile if you use the multimelta + power fist with flamer

As for the firespear, captains in terminator armours suck. Artificer armour on regular captain much better.

The venerable dread is ok but I recommend the same, melta + flamer or at least power fist with flamer. Lascannons could work in this case.

Also you spend points on heavy weapons on tactical squads, yet besides heavy flamers, grav amps and maybe missile launchers they're all pretty bad.

Dictch a tactical and get a devastator squad.

>>50661441
>>50661516
>>50661580
>>50661475
i thought he was angry because slaanesh tried to eat the eldar god of war whihc khorne also wanted to do and while they were fighting over it he splintered the fuck outta there

>>50661976
Ahh Amerifags. That explains the salt.

>>50662084

Thats over $1000 in models

we all know you are never actually going to buy 45 bikers and 9 mek gunz

Help me understand the logic behind the new sisters rules. I don't even play sisters, but the fact that they would get so screwed is surprising to me.

>No mark of nurgle on Hellbrutes to give it IWND

I just want Hellbrutes to be decent.

>>50662077
It's because it's not a loyalist MARINE supplement, it's codex: unloved imperial factions.

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>>50662138
>Buying at retail price
>Not making own Mek Guns from a Trukk of which a single kit gives you 3
>Thinking money is an issue

>>50662151
Honestly no idea. The bloody thing is not even out.

My guess? People overreacting like always

>>50662138
so i guess you dont have a job ? i mean nobody ever did a DKOK army, Chais dwarf army, Regular GW Dark Elf Wyches Horde etc ?

If your only point is how much money other people have, kys

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>>50662024
>entire thing starts when anon says bolters can cause trukks to explode.
>proven that bolters in fact can't make trukks explode
>"keep pretending that bolters are all Spess Mehrenes use"

Okay

>>50662164
i would love to see what your Mek Gun out of truck looks like tho. 20€ on wayland with a coupon looks like a pretty fair price for a model that big already

>>50662024
>I-I'm still relevant guys
>please g-go back to talking about my codex

Where is the Dreadnought TL HFlamer arm at?

>>50661976
gimme some screens

>>50662151
They're getting a brand new Codex with plastic model range in 8th. GW wasn't going to waste time writing new rules for old soon-to-be outdated models that will end up having totally different options later, so they copy-pasted a placeholder Codex in a compendium with other odds-and-ends allies.

>>50661801
The sisters section has their own faction. So unless the valkyries in that book have the faction sisters of battle, they can't use em

>>50662070
Take any lascannon marine
Add spikes

Starting a Kill Team Campaign tomorrow. Marines vs Chaos Marines, 8 missions planned. Rate my starting force?

1 Vanguard Veteran Sergeant With Power Sword and Storm Shield.

5 Tactical Marines.

1 Heavy Bolter Devastator.

2 Scout Snipers with Camo Cloaks.

1 Scout with Camo Cloak and a close combat weapon.

2 Assault Marines.

1 Apothecary 30pts.

1 Sternguard 22pts.

>>50662245
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgRLlOUQpA

Pretty good, all told. I made 4 out of a Trukk kit, Battlewagon upgrade sprue, & 1 MG kit, similar to the video but not exactly the same.

>>50662291
That would be oddly cruel even by GW.

They went out of their way to dick over SoB? I'm curiosos though is each thing on the Imperial Agent index a separate faction? Because that would be very silly

Okay, so my list looks something like this:
HQ
Lysander (because he's a badass)

Elites
5 Sternguard w/ Combi-Meltas in a Drop Pod

5 TH/SS Termies in a Land Raider Crusader (to accompany Lysander)

Troops
2x 10 man Tac Squad w/ Heavy Bolter; Sergeant with Melta Bombs and a Power Sword in a Rhino

Heavy Support
Centurion Devs with TL Las and Missles, Sergeant with Omniscope

2x Vindicators with Siege Shields

1850 pts total, going for a fluffy, but competitive list. Any recommendations?

>>50662323

I'd specialize more.

For example a grav amp devastator to fuck up high armor shit and a flamer in an assault marine.

Get rid of some tacticals if you need to adjust for points

>>50662335
Its likely that every different subfaction in imperial agents will be its own faction

So how the fuck do I paint Night Lords?

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>>50662348
So no one could use Valkyries beside imperial navy? At least that would be the case if every topic in the index. Extremely silly

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HOLY SHIT im mad that the sisters formations are nothing, but the inquisition got shafted no true warbands anymore just shit and forced acolytes

>>50662344
I was thinking of starting the list as it is, but then expanding into Grav. My thinking is that my opponent will see the fairly generic listing and then swing towards heavy armours because of that, expecting a sweep. Second match happens and up pops Grav weapons to ruin their day. Valid?

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Do GKs actually even perform well against daemons anymore?

I remember when the draw of psycannons and incinerators was that they ignored invuln saves. Now that there's basically no counterplay to invuln left in the game and daemons find themselves with 2/3++ rerollable...

But at least there's power weapons to ignore all those armor saves daemons use!

Daemonhunters my ass. Cant even use a psychic power against tzeentch.

will always look fly, though

>>50662364
With lightning bolts...

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>>50662271
This was pretty choice

>>50662336

If you're going competitive dont waste points on power weapons for tactical sergeants.

Also heavy bolters arent that good. Flamers or grav weapons do it better (at their respective uses)

Also combi weapons are one shot only. Bear in mind you can take a command squad that's all made up of veterans each one with a meltagun.

Also the terminator / land raider unit is a black hole that sucks your points.

You'll lose to almost anything merely for the fact that you have so few models on the table.

Your terminator unit with the land raider can go to shit if you get charged by a massive unit of cultists, gaunts or even gretchins, invalidating a huge portion of your army

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>>50662364
Armor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YumAwDRAUaw

Lightning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5-7hOb9JoU

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>>50662366

everyone in the book can use it, they just can't start in it

Pottery

>>50662113
sisters did not change except celestine lost, the inquisition book got gutted and nerfed into the ground

>>50662364
Duncan tutorial

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>>50662398
>tfw Big Dunc has your back

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>>50660257

>>50662364

>Prime Black
>Base Kantor Blue
>Trim Gehenna's Gold
>Mecharite Red spot colours

For the lightning bolts, draw some lines using Caledor Sky, then thinner line with Lothren Blue, then thinner again with White Scar.

>>50662373

He's going to do the same and escalate with hordes of weaklings once you do that.

I'd say start widespread with ability to counter any unit that may come, and flamers and grav guns are pretty good against chaos marines.

Also sniper scouts are very good on kill team, since they're cheap and your opponent wont focus on them most of the time

>>50662382
noice

I assume the people saying its not bad are just shitposting, or are they that dumb?

>>50661001
What was the worse change they made for them? Cuz im noticing its hard to compete with other races when your tyranids.

>>50662398

PRAISE BIG DUNC

>>50661071
>>1/6 chance of FLAT OUT

"Orkfags" are bad at this game

>>50662389
Okay, how can I improve it, but still keep Lysander?

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>>50660257
>tfw have to rebuy them in finecast because opponent won't risk them chipping the primer off his riptide

>>50662369
>0-1 crusaders
>0-1 death cult assassins

For what raisin? And where's servitors? Must I take a techpriest and buy servitors for him?

Thanks, Obama, thanks a lot.

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>>50660257

>playing with 12 year olds

>>50662459

Da fuck? Do you guys throw your models at each other? Also:

>not using a varnish

>>50661974
Most of the faction-specific detachments don't provide Objective Secured.

>>50662458

There are things that have to go and things that are lackluster for your mindset of wanting to play lysander + terminators, but you just have to do it for competiveness.

I'd ditch the Land Raider and add a dreadnought with melta or a las predator for anti-vehicle firepower

The centurions work good with grav amps, which can fil the role of heavy armor unit hunters

Consider ditching the sternguard as well, maybe add one more 5 man tactical squad inside a razorback with assault cannons or lasers or las/plasma

The point is you have to get more models in the table and spread the utility of your army into specialised units for Space Marines to be competitive.

Also doesnt Lysander allow terminators to deep strike? Use that rule

>>50662501

That's making me rock hard.

>>50662522
I never found the source.

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>>50662369
>>okay sweet, I can run my xenos inquisitor with deathwatch vet bodyguard in a blackstar. Finally im free from those garbage ass good for nothing bs3 acolytes.
>>must form a unit with this formations acolytes
>>mfw

Emperors sweet sweaty fucking sack, why?

First I thought I might get to roll with my scions in a valkyrie, then maybe deathwatch, but NOPE. Just tell me
>>50662402 is true too so I can just throw these chumps in the trash where they've belonged since 5th edition killed all flavor inquisition had.

>>50662377
Not really, take Deathwatch if you want anti-daemon
Banishment helps a bit.
Force gives you reroll Wounds in CC
The rerollable is only for 1's on Tzeentch (not saying much I know)

>>50662458

Also, use this

https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>50661254
For Alpha Legion, you'll want the Chaos Warband detachment and the Legion of the Damned detachment, +1 Chaos Lord.

You need 4 units of Cultists minimum, 9 maximum. Buy about twice as many as you have in your list for that sweet, sweet "Two Heads are Better than One" thing.

Shove in Chosen wherever you can fit them.

>>50662443
Everything being too slow to make it into CC and not having access to flesh hooks.

In 3e a guardsman could move 6" in the movement phase and charge 6" in the assault phase, for a total threat range of 12". A hormagaunt could move 6", run d6" with fleet, and then charge 12" (note, not 2d6, a full 12"), for a total threat range of 24".

Now, guardsmen are potentially faster, while hormagaunts are slower, both having a total threat range on the charge of 18". What the fuck?

Genestealers in all early editions could take flesh hooks (assault grenades) for 1ppm so they didn't have to strike at initiative 1 when charging through cover and could actually make use of their I6. Despite still having them in the goddamn kit, Cruddace took that away, because fuck nids.

In 3e they could charge from infiltrate. In 4e they could charge from outflank. Now, they can't do either of those things, so they spend a turn sitting around with their thumbs up their asses and when they finally do charge after getting shot to shit, they get shot a-fucking-gain from Overwatch, and then probably hit at Initiative 1.

I could go on and on and on. How our Shadow in the Warp is now useless when it was once one of the best psychic defenses in the game, how instinctive behaviour has gotten worse and worse to the point where horms out of synapse now eat each other despite this being complete rape of the fluff, how Warriors used to be 14ppm and immune to instant death and now they're 30 points for a useless piece of shit tax for any of the Formations that MIGHT have otherwise been decent like the Endless Swarm which is the only way we get back the Without Number rule we used to be able to just purchase....

The stupid bullshit has never let up since Cruddace got his faggot IG fanboy paws on our design.

>>50662465
Hopefully it's 0-1 Deathcult Assassin (units), which was 2-10

>>50662578
Nvm its not referring to a unit... it's literally 0-1 models...

Wtf :(

>>50661776
>Dudes with jumppacks with swords have the same tactical flexibility as dudes with swords.

>>50661254

Alpha Legion is easy to do.

Shove hordes of meatshield cultists + chosen with special weapons + a neat chaos lord

And that's basically it

>>50662459
>finecast
>sisters
>finecast
Boy, have I got some bad news for you.

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how old are those ?
Whats the chances of them being updated with the 8th codex ?

>>50662470
A vast majority of the SoB miniatures will be twenty next year.

>>50662544
Based on my previous games against tzeentch daemons, I have low hopes of actually casting Banishment or force. Ive avoided fielding my old silver friends this edition, maybe when IA drops Ill test them out for the hell of it.

>>50662618
>the chances
<1% id say

I really love Deathwatch, but it feels like what they should be good at is being hampered by how the game functions.

Their whole deal is versatility, with every guy being able to be armed uniquely.

Except, of course, it'd be stupid to do something like having a marine with a thunder hammer being in the same squad as a guy with a heavy bolter, because for one to be good, the other guy's utility has to be sacrificed.

>>50662624
Thats well above legal age.

>>50662618
>Wuz wrong wit da bike?
At the beginning of your movement phase roll a D6 for the Warbiker unit. On the result of a 1 to 5 your bikers suffer a massive exhaust explosion! All models in this unit cannot move and must take a dangerous terrain test with no saves of any kind allowed. In addition they lose -1 shot from their guns as they're too distracted to hold the trigger properly. On a 6+ they act normal.

Price increase to 22ppm.

Veteran noob still figuring out formations here;
I'll be playing a 1500 Skitarii list, I had points all worked out, then I went here:
>>50662554
and saw that the Dominus Maniple itself is 0 points with units included. Am I being retarded?
Worked out my list originally paying full points for the units in the DM.

>>50662369
Is the Astropath the same as the current Guard codex?
25pt ML1 Telepathy psyker?
And can the Acolytes still take Bolters for 1pt or Storm Bolters for 3?
Because if so, im fine with it. They just increased the cost of the only discipline I used by 15pts, and let me use him in Kill Team. Seems fine by me.

>>50662650

The problem is they have only one wound and get easily fucked by how the game works.

All super expensive units can be fucked for a whole game if the opponent decides to entangle them in close combat with a horde of meatshields.

>>50662636
That's what Deathwatch + Libarius Conclave Null Zoning + Culexus Assassin is for.

>Yes I am aware the Assassin will drop Null Zone if he gets within range.

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Homebrew rules I'm working on for using Doomrider in a narrative campaign. (this time without spelling errors)

>>50662323

This is a HoR list right? Because it's illegal in all sorts of ways for GW KT...

>>50662577
what the fuck GWS

>>50662682

You didn't actually fill in the Dominus Maniple. You still have to add the units.

>>50662543
>Emperors sweet sweaty fucking sack, why?

Dirt cheap ablative wounds for your Deathwatch and Inquisitor.

Hey, I've rewritten my fluffy list, but now I have about 290 points left to add to it! What should I add or change?


-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
+Deathwing Company Standard, 20
+2 Chainfists, 10
Total, 255

>>50662369

>No servitors

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>50662459

good to see that my store owner has spread that far already.

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Sister players got BTFO'd.

I'm Sister player since start of 3rd edition. I'm sad.

>>50662703
what's the stats on the inferno pistol and what does murderous strike do? both aren't native to the chaos codex

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>>50662716
Thanks Mr.

>>50662776
Inferno pistol is a 6 inch melta gun, murderous strike is instant death on six's to wound.

>>50662721
I don't think the chamber militant gets added into the unit, unless it does? Which would be fantastic???

>>50662763
Same. But not sad. A decade of this shit made me imnue.

Shiting over my Inquisitorial Battle Harem. That hurt

>>50662763
I heard from a reliable source that plastic sisters and a real codex is due first quarter next year.

>>50662377
>Do GKs actually even perform well against daemons anymore?

nope nurgle and tzeench make it hard for grey knights to use force/banishment and can just overwhelm you with numbers

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>>50660229

So i can just add this mofo to my globguards alone. Neat.

I have bad feeling that IG will lose all those priests and psykers in next codex due to this shit.

>>50662748
Crap, misclicked.

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels V3

-Terminator Librarian, 90
+ML2, 25
+Storm Bolter, 5
Total, 115

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Multi Melta, 10
Total, 180 (540)

Dedicated Transports
-3xRhinos, 105

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Extra Armor, 10
+Heavy Flamer, 10
Total, 135

Dedicated Transport
-Drop Pod, 35
+Locator Beacon, 10

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
+Deathwing Company Standard, 20
+2 Chainfists, 10
+Perfidious Relic of the Unforgiven, 15
Total, 270

Complete Total, 1,210

>>50662847
Sincerely hope not, was planning on adding some Sanctioned Psykers to my Skitarii to help defend against warp bullshit.

>>50662834
I'm starting to think it's all nerdrage power from that time in 5th edition Kairos Fateweaver showed up to hang out with Ahriman and got immediate brain surgery from a dreadknight.

After that he just started hulking out at the chaos gym until 7th.

>>50662799
I assume it does. The Chamber Militant rule states that the Henchman Warband (the name of the formation) can also include a squad of Terminators, Sisters, or Deathwatch. The Formation rules state that everything has to form a unit with the Acolytes. So everything you take - the Inquisitor, the Acolytes, the Chamber Militant unit, and all the little bits and bobs - gets turned into one big blob.