Warhammer 40k general

How bout them doomed yiffs?

>>50577788
I am Carnac

>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light." - The Emperor

Chaos wins. Nids, Necrons, Orks, Eldar and Tau are all destroyed. Chaos wins. End of. So you're just jobbers.

>>50577803
I am Carnac

>>50577806
t. Carnac

Best way for Deathwatch to beat Tau?

>>50577820
I'm Carmac and so's my wife.

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>Orks are a melee race!
>I2

>>50577825
By only engaging them in fluff

I'm not sure which list I like better.

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels list V1

HQ
-Interrogator Chaplain, 110
+Plasma Pistol, 15
Total, 125

-Terminator Librarian, 90
+ML2, 25
+Foe Smiter, 15
Total, 130

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Extra Armor, 10
Total, 140

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 225

Dedicated Transports
-Land Raider Redeemer, 240
+Multi-Melta, 10
Total, 250

Complete Total, 1500

Or

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels list V2

HQ
-Interrogator Chaplain, 110
Terminator Armor, 30
+Mace of Absolution, 30
Total, 170

-Librarian, 65
+ML2, 25
+Auspex, 5
Total, 95

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Plasma Cannon, 5
Total, 130

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 225

Dedicated Transports
-Land Raider Redeemer, 240
+Multi-Melta, 10
Total, 250

Complete Total, 1500

Delete this thread.

>>50577849
Nice try Carnac

>>50577849
MAKE ME

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>>50577788
Hey guys have a casual games night in a few days and was planning on running this list. Didn't get enough feedback last thread so I'm asking again.

This list all good and viable? I went for something fluffy by using the Rubrics and was wondering if this would punish me?

>mfw I didn't send in the janitors application form again for the 5th time

I always write it out and never submit it. I think it's too much work. Then I see shit like this and I regret it.

>>50577844
I know I suggested swapping the armour, but if I were in your position I'd just field the cheaper list.

Maybe that's just because I'm a poor neet though.

>>50577806
>>50577824
I posted that originally as a joke on how utterly bullshit BL was. Somebody has literally assumed I was posting it seriously and now thinks Carnac said it.

This is fucking irritating. I was trying to dispel this meme that BL books are worth the paper they're written on.

>>50577829
we are all Carmac

Welcome to the new thread, same as the old thread.

>>5057788 7
>taking a LoW to a casual night.

You're just looking for yous. Well I'm not giving you any.

>>50577840
In all seriousness, what role do Orks even have in 40k?

They sort of fit in back in the old days when 40k was more "wacky" but the setting has evolved beyond that and become more serious, Orks have not.

Their terrible rules, their terrible lore.
Why not just get rid of them?

>>50577844
I'd say with list 2 remove the Auspex and Multi-melta, then purchase a Deathwing Company Banner for +1 Attack on everyone in the squad. The chaplain will have 4 attacks, and the rest will have 3 attacks, therefore they'll have a decent chance of wrecking things in melee.

The first list is also good, as the Librarian can bless the Terminators and you can have the Chaplain stay with the tacs in case they're assaulted, giving them some bonuses to fending off attackers. Plus the Librarian Termi model isn't failcast and if your opponent also has Psykers, you'll be able to Deny the Witch easier on your Command Squad, which is important, seeing as in the second list you'd probably have him with the tacs, blessing them instead.

I rate fluffy/10

>>50577806

Necrons will give Chaos a sound spanking, m8.

>>50577981
Fuck off. Your idea was shit in your thread the other day and its shit now.

>>50577894
Yeah, that's what I'll probably do.

>>50577985
Thanks for the advice, anon! I think I'll stick with my first list, but the second list is really tempting me.

How does everybody rate the Storm Warden fluff? I think fantasy flight did a decent job compared to relic and their magpies.

>>50577930
I am Carnac.

Many heads of Carnac edition

>>50577981

In all seriousness, what role do Chaos even have in 40k?

They sort of fit in back in the old days when 40k was more "wacky" but the setting has evolved beyond that and become more serious, Chaos has not.

Their terrible rules, their terrible lore.
Why not just get rid of them?

>>50577887
Dude, go up to 1850 if you want to use Magnus, unless you have your oponent's express permission to do so in such a small game.
He's gonna wipe the board.

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>>50577981
>what do orks have
deffsqauckdren it was fucking awesome
>Their terrible rules
yes let us remove every army with bad rules right now
how many non space marines/eldar/tau lists are left.
>their terrible lore.
it's great, you are just wrong also it tends to be a bit more consistent because
>orkz need to grow up bullshit
you are a massive faggot

Is there any way to run:

>CSM based around standard troop marines
>Footslogging

Because my favourite Chaos unit is just standard Chaos Marines, but I really don't like vehicle based armies.

>>50578013
>Sideshow
>Interfering with the mainshow.

>>50577826
>>50577826
Real thread here, no shitposting allowed!

>>50578046

In all seriousness, what role do Eldar even have in 40k?

They sort of fit in back in the old days when 40k was more "wacky" but the setting has evolved beyond that and become more serious, the Eldar have not.

Their terrible rules, their terrible lore.
Why not just get rid of them?

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Rate my Alpha legion list?
I think I've done something pretty sneaky and smart here, and it is a good use of their rules.

>>50577788
Doing a death guard themed nurgle army, 750 points for a small free for all

Unclean one – 280
Psyker 3
2 Greater Rewards


1 Herald of Nurgle - 155
Palaquin
Psyker 2
Greater Reward

5 Havocs - 135
1 Sergeant
Mark of Nurgle
Missile Launcher
3 Autocannons

5 Chaos Marines – 90
Mark of Nurgle
Heavy Bolter

5 Chaos Marines – 90
Mark of Nurgle
Heavy Bolter

However I am unsure whether to swap the GUO for Typhus with 10 zombies? Any advice?
Also with Plague marines hitting in at 24 PPM and Death guard basic marines 16 PPM is there really any reason to take plague marines now? Aside from poisoned CC

>>50578164
Do explain more.

>>50577981
The best characters, the best comics, the most character ful models and best opportunity for looting and conversions.

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>>50577981
Orks are a faction that embodies rolling lots of dice and risk taking. They are basically outdated as GW and FW already made a more refined version of the ork playstyle, Legion Astartes World Eaters

Both easily get a hundred attacks on the charge thanks to bonuses and special rules which also buff them, then they become relatively easier to handle.

They both CAN shoot, but its only really to prepare things to be charged or pop transports enemies are hiding in.

Both want to drive right into the enemy with assault vehicles and get stuck in or play huge swarms of basic troopers.

Rely on devastating charges to cripple units and strength of numbers to ensure they can clean them up.

Hit hard on the charge and thus are tactically reliant on making the charge.

Their elite units are two wound terminators

The only difference is that World Eaters are more durable and hit harder with Chain axes. I have a local ork player that built World Eaters the same way he built his orks army wise, filling the same roles and approaches to the game and hasn't come back to his orks since, joking that the Legion rules for World Eaters "ARE the new Ork codex".

>>50578204
Cultist wave provides cover for the vehicles and respawns when killed.

Then, turn 2, every is close enough to jump on them and destroy them their whole army!
Assuming the terminators come down.

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>>50578164

>1001

>>50578294
"I think I've done something pretty sneaky and smart here"

He's a true alpha legion player, he's operating on at least five or six layers of deception at the moment, wrapped in just enough truth to deceive you even further.

>>50578164
You posted in a picture which is obnoxious in it own right but then you scaled it so the text is largely illegible.

6/11 troll points.

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>>50578319

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Since this is what the thread has devolved into, here's some 40k funnies.

>>50577887
>oh(You).jpeg

>>50577841
Very funny. And on the tabletop?

>>50578180
This army is compleatly illigal, being from 2codexs with one detchament
lrn2ply

>>50578403
deepstrike in squads with high strength, instant death, ap2, guns?

>>50578424
Yeah a casual game with friends? I don't care, deathguard with nurgle demon allies

>>50578448
>playing with friends
>not adhering to the rules in the most autistic way possible
Just where do you think you are buddy?

Hello fellows, I asked on the previous thread but realized it died by the time I posted. I seen some people commenting on the Gods of Fenris being real, and while I did skim through the WoM epub, I didn't really see anything specifically claiming that they were real. I was just curious - did I miss something explicit or is everybody just referencing that elemental battle (fiery wolf, snake, etc).
I appreciate the assistance, fellow anons.

>>50578424
>What is Unbound

>>50578424
It can be an unbound army.

>>50578180
The herald of Nurgle can't join the space marine squads so he will just end up stuck on his own, swap him for a CSM character.

>>50578523
>>50578424
Thanks everyone, but GUO vs Typhus? Better choice?
>>50578523
This is a problem why?

>>50578584
It's part of the daemonic instability rule, they can only join units with daemonic instability and then only daemons of the same god.

>>50578612
no I mean im aware they cant join the marines but this doesn't bother me overly

>>50578584
Characters standing around on their own are asking to get shot. And he's nowhere near as durable as a MC like the GUO.

>>50577981
They don't really have a role anymore since the faction bloat. We used to have Choas resigned to fighting under the Black Legion against a part of the Inperium and then Orks, Tyranids and the Eldar, DE to fight each other and the rest of the imperium.

End times coming encouraged by the shite that is HH has removed the indefeninate war tag line that worked so well with the Gothic theme.

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>>50578500
>>50578501
>unbound

>>50578644
>T4 5++ 2 wounds
that, is why it should: your opp will deploy a single krak, and that will be that.

>>50578080
You want Alpha Legion or World Eater legion rules.

>>50578080
>>50579015

Though Death Guard get relentless. So maybe look at them too.

>>50578985
What's wrong with unbound?

>>50579167
>oh yeah my army is just 20 deff dreads
>oh yeah my army is just 8 riptides
>oh yeah my army is just deamon princes
its an excuses to make rediculous OP shit, it take the alrady unbalences parts of 40k and puts them into overdrive

>>50579167
>>50578500
>>50578501
Most people won't play against unbound is the problem.

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You guys, remember that Mechanicus Adept hand with keys? This is another peace of that model :D.

>>50579276
>dat face
dass chaos

>>50579206
You can always just turn down games vs stupid lists, it's not like you cant make a bound list with nothing but riptides thanks to the riptide wing.
Actually, you can also make a bound list of nothing but daemon princes thanks to being able to spam the unholy tetrad, the only thing you can't do is 20 deff dreads bound!

Besides, 20 deff dreads sounds fun!

>>50579323
I have done 18 Deff dreads+ bike big mek before. its alright for a lark, but its basically you win, or get hard countered

>>50579276
>>50579287
What if it's some sort of ad-mech psyker?

Some kind of secret, brain stealing project to create a psychic super weapon so they can reclaim STCs from daemon worlds!

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hello guise, indecisive (for the last time) anon here i just bought an army codex.
I became the Space Yiffs
can't wait for the insults

>>50579513
Good job anon, I hope you have fun!

I was never much in to space wolves, I always wanted a kind of space marine army but I could never decide on chapter.
I liked the blood angel rules the most but I wanted a dick dastardly type chapter like iron hands or marines malevolent and these two things seemed totally at odds.

>>50578472
the FUN ZONEEEEE

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>>50579513
Ohoho, I have become your enemy, anon, but I respect your choice and hope we can become friendly rivals in future.

>>50579582
i decided on them because they give me freedom to expand on the other Astartes armies if i feel like stuff is going to get stale. Like adding some Inquisitors or something

>>50579468
If we're running with wild guesses, I think it's a mobile Void Shield Generator on legs with guns all over it, so you can advance your Vanguard up behind a forcefield as your Dunecrawlers lay down a creeping barrage.

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>>50579607
i will make you
> TAKE THE KNOT

>>50579654
please, please run that army. paint it, homebrew it, yell it at your enemies. just do that.

>>50579000
They're T5? and with the steed hes given it its actually 4 wounds

>>50580158
It's pretty much a mini monstrous creature at that point.

>>50580193
Psyker too so could potentially summon more daemons. Heralds of nurgle are pretty nifty, pretty sure you can upgrade them to have IWND as well

>>50579513
Congrats, I look forward to many days of friendly banter and fighting alongside against forces of chaos

t. Dark angel

>>50579654
>>50579672

You fucking do it, you legend. Post pics. Your name will be remembered.

I'm abit confused in regards to the combat drugs that EC get.
You roll once for the entire detachment?, or on a unit-by-unit basis?....

From reading the images provided by based anon, i'd assume one roll for the entire army, but that makes the combat drug relic seem pretty damn strong....

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>>50577844
>>50577844
I know you are being fluffy and not tryhard or anything, but consider dropping the plasma pistol and probably the plasma cannons on the tacticals, they're just very limiting choices. Also isn't the DW apothecary upgrade more than 5 points? Default command squad is 15 and Ravenwing is 30 for the apothecary.

Is the WE Talisman of Burning Blood better on Possessed or on Bikes?

>>50580279
You roll once and it applies to the relevent units in the detachment.

With the relic you roll an extra d3 times and apply it the model with the drugs relic on top of the detachment drugs bonus.

>tfw finally freeing yourself from considerations of what's "competitive"

Everything that can have it in my Word Bearers is getting Gift of Mutation. I might even run a unit of Possessed.

PRAISE THE DARK GODS AND THE FLUFFY ARMY LIST

>>50580182
>shitty photo rules pdf compilation incoming!
>https://mega.nz/#!SwU2CTyA!DB5ScdknXIkBK3G4DQt3qUPzv0T-6BPAcpKTw3Tf0Cg

From the other thread

Can Blood Angels in the Deathwatch fall to the Black Rage and become Death Company marines while in service?

Is it appropriate to model a few DW marines as Death Company, DW-ized?

>>50580322
>yfw I spend 1000 points on possessed, a DP and possessed Rhinos.

I have a 36% chance of losing a 26 pt model when they just leave their transport.

Get on my level, scrub.

>>50579217
>>50579263
>>50579291
>>50579312
So what's the best way to run an EC army now?
Kakophani + sorcerer for the detachment
Lord with the elixer to become a challange monster, Sorcerer with the grin to take advantage of all the pinning?

Which aux choice would I take to get some more 'normal' infantry models in there?

>>50578055

The rules are the rules, faggot.

650 is 650

>>50578164

None of those units are good save for the vindicator desu.

The chaos lord can be viable, but csm suck ass, and so do footslogging terminators or chaos terminators in general.

Maybe try to cram a unit of chosen in there, all with special weapons

>>50580563
You can't force someone to play your faggot primarch, so shove that 200 dollar dildo up your poopchute

>>50578380

Nice

>>50580568

Always loved the inquisitor with the plasma pistol and the preacher with the sword and the book

>>50580592
I bet you are a joy to play against

>>50580297
Nope, Deathwing Champion and Apothecary are both only 5 points. Anon has all his costs correct.

>>50580592
wait till they release a leman russ model, then everyone will be primarch fighting.

>>50580707
He's not coming for a while. Someone else first. Guilliman probably.

If I ever feel like I want to spend all my money but not on crack, what's the cheapest faction to play as that also isn't actually terrible?

>>50580749
Eldar, probably?

>>50580746
>Buy now, the new Roboute Guilliman model
>WS0 BS0 S1 T1 W1 I1 A1 Ld10
>Just Roboute dying in a chair in a stasis field.
Would love to see the looks on the ultrasmurfs faces when they see that.

>>50580677
Sure am, but if you bring something cheesily retarded and anti fun then bitch and moan about how I won't let you jack off for an hour over me taking my beloved minis off the board, go fuck yourself with a cactus.

>>50580297
Nah, I just love plasma weapons too much. S7 AP2 can remove termis or other big things, as well as medium vehicles. It has a very low chance to glance AV13, and an okay chance to glance/pen anything below it, and since they're AP2 they get the +1 on damage tables, which means a set of lucky rolls can get Vehicle Explodes on AV10-12.

Can't do diddly to AV14 in my list though. Which I just realized.

Oh well! Not like people bring a ton of Land Raiders anyways.

Also, rewrote my list again, removed the Land Raider's Multi-Melta, gave Librarian a regular Stormbolter and the Deathwing Command Squad a Company Banner for the +1 Attack.

Good idea or no?

>>50580780
It should substract a D3 VP from your opponent if he kills the unit. Somekind of "he slayed a cripple" debuff.

>>50580509
pretty much that, with spawn for the aux choice.

>>50580804
Yeah the company banner is very helpful.
I sometimes run a 5-plasma DA command squad with a prescience librarian- if you really love plasma and can't get enough you can do that and if its in a pod or razorback its pretty fun.
For AV 14 remember you can take melta bombs on tacticals (not necessarily a good idea, but an option) and chainfists on your terminators, I would recommend at least one per squad.

>>50580871
They fucked up and put an Imperial Agents page in there.

>>50580780
>100 points
>all models with the ultramarine chapter tactics gain zealot and relentless
>unlimited tactical doctrines
>May enact two tactical doctrine each turn

Ultramarines proceed to trash worst bearers while daddy smurf watches on from his wheelchair.

>>50580408
They probably just get returned to sender.

>>50580868
But what do I do if I want regular chaos marines without taking a chaos warband?
>But why would you want regular chaos marines?

>>50579276
>This is another peace of that model :D.
Not necessarily.

>>50580871
i can only think of 2 reasons why it's not a fuck up

1 they have tried to eliminate abaddon by assassins and 2 chaos also uses assassins. i think the grey knight book even mentions a trainee capturing a daemon assassin and just mistaking it as a test

>>50580871
>>50580896
Or Alpha Legion is in control of Assassinorum.

>>50580889
Do you know many chainfists are included in a Deathwing Command Squad box? I removed the Extra Armor from the Venerable Dreadnought, and gave 2 Chainfists to the last two unupgraded Terminators in the Command Squad.

I think that should fully round out my list.

>>50580921
They may be doing as a sort of two part like angels blade and traitors hate shared the same art work.
Traitors hate has one side, angels blade had the other.

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>>50580898
alright to be fair if GW had the balls to pull that off i'd roll ultrasmurfs just as a show of respect.

>>50580592

Its not your game faggot

Its in the rules.

650 is 650, nerd

>>50580871
BL? That's Warhammer digital. It's a GW fuck up. Remember when they printed a Vampire Counts in a Dark Angel codex?

>>50579636
>Legs of a Crab tank
>Body is a Void Shield generator

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Thoughts? IW CAD, the Warpsmith's Daemonheart is actually 30pt sink to represent Fleshmetal Exoskeleton which isn't an option yet. Same with the Hellbrute and Cultists, they're supposed to be a Helcult but for whatever reason that's not in the Formations...

>>50580967
Was thinking longer, so 6 or 8 legs, but pretty much that, but more compact.

>>50580959
A player has the right to decline any game they don't want to play in. Pretty sure that's even in the rulebook.

Deal with it faggot and enjoy your no games as you continue to be a social pariah

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>>50580921
>>50580953

There's no fluff in the book outside a quick explanation of the Long War and a few pages per legion.

>>50580996
So dual kit
>Build One
Lobster Transport Walker

>Build Two
Lobster Void Shield Generator Walker

>>50580965
Black Library handles GW's digital publications. He's not complaining about boys love.

>>50580917
unbound + kakophani
or
CAD/AllyDetach + kakophani.

CAD isnt even a dumb idea to get some Obsec

>>50580965
I believe that was actually in the 5th(?) blood angels codex and while it's a fuck up there are vampires in 40k, it just doesn't get mentioned much

>>50581015
Yep, and they can be mixed in squadrons and all have the Dunecrawler's shielding.
So have 2 full of Skitarii flanking a VSG as you crawl forward.
Make the transports open-topped to compensate.

Alpha legion has me super excited. Anybody theoryhammering them care to share your thoughts?

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>No way to take chaos bikers in any of the new decurions

>>50581060
Take an entire army of characters.

>>50581063
They're in the fucking core Chaos Warband that everyone can take.

Has anyone done the math for Magnus v. Horus yet?

>>50581015
Stop, my penis can only get so erect

>>50581060
Lots of Infiltrating Cultists and Marines.
All characters modeled identically.

>>50581045
But I really want my free combat drugs!

I guess I can just use noise marines as regular troops, 7 should be enough squads.

>>50581056
>open-topped
What do you think we're savages or druggies?
12 cap
12 firing points
Assault vehicle
Access points on both sides, rear, and front

>but seriously I'd say that it shouldn't have any firing points, Cancerguns are hella strong.

>>50581081
30k Horus? Are we including psychics?

>>50581140
No, it would be open-topped to compensate for the fact that if my rules were there it would be a Void Shielded 4++ beast. Hard to hurt, but goes down quickly once you manage it.

Also lets you trade speed for an assault transport for the glorious Sicarians.

I envision Skitarii transports as gunboats slowly crawling forwards while the Skitarii fire out, not fast but inexorable. Makes sense that the transports would be designed to cover their squishiness.

>>50579996
And the unit of Horrors technically only fires one psychic power yes? So even with a unit of 10 or more Horrors I can hide all but one and fire potentially 4d6 shots? Then jump back into cover since it was used in the psychic phase and not the shooting phase.

Or am I reading that completely wrong here?

Has anyone tried slapping the Deathwatch shoulder pads on MK3 Marines? I'm wondering how it'd look.

Anyone leak the new Canoness rules yet?

Word Bearers Khornate Psykers

>>50581081
I'd say Horus, Disabling strike is really strong and Magnus' strength come in the psychic phase

Scoria V Magnus though

>>50581081
>>50581198

Stalemate,

Daemon Magnus will simply because he's flying and shits out a bunch of witchfires.
Banking on one of his D's getting through and 6'ing.

Big issue is Horus Denies on a 5+ and has a special nullify on a 3+ he uses first.

BUT Horus only has a 3 shot twin-linked bolter to bring down Big Red.

But in pure melee, Horus wins.

>>50581272
Yup.

>>50581244
No you're right.
Hide 9+, put one in LoS, he shits out 2/3/4 d6 shots. And then tries to run back into cover. If he fails to make it. You lose one. Rinse and repeat.

>>50581272
Pretty much, these'd be the finest example of em. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Sanctified

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So-- still psyched for the Legion rules, but slightly disappointed that the EC's FNP isn't the +1 to FNP rolls or 6+ I expected. No "free" 3+ FNP from using the 4+ FNP psychic powers.
That said, is the bonus to the icons of Excess worth it? 4+ FNP is nice, for sure, but is it worth the 30 points on anything less than a 10 man Noise Marine Squad? Legion rules or no that's a pricey-ass CSM squad.

>the agents of the Ordo Hereticus were frequent guests in the Fang’s halls.
So Logar is being forced to let in inquisitors now?
Or, now he knows there is some real heresy going on, he now sees the need for inquisitors?

Any models that would go nicely as cultist for Thousand Sons?

>>50581540
Nope, he only said yes because the High Lords of Terra were paying a lot of attention, plus how weakened they were.

Otherwise he'd have said no and probably fought it.

>>50581538
It's defiantly worth in the 10 man, but dubious for anything less.

>>50581540
>>50581588

He was also worried that if he said no this time, they'd get killed.

>>50581538
The EC rules are absurd. +1S Shred Sonic weapons are super strong.

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>ordered from waylandgames

>>50581348
Last question: I lose one Pink Horror, gain two Blue Horrors and a new unit. Switch in a new Pink Horror and get it killed again. Gain tons of little units, each with their own warp charge contribution?

>>50581538
>>50581622
>>50581595
Oh, forgot to mention, the good news is drug-fueled chaos spawn and cultists. Not limited to Veterans of the Long War.

>>50577887
>Magnus in a 1000 point game.
You're a bit of a shit guy eh?

>>50580568
Unfortunately I have bought all the models out of those that I've wanted years ago.

>>50581652
All non-vehicles was in the original leak, glad you're hype, but we know.

https://regimental-standard.com/2016/12/07/inquisitorial-mandate/

>A complement of fully sanctified Adepta Sororitas will be on station to aid you and purify any such items.*

>*along with anyone who has has been in contact with them.

Top kek.

>>50581642
They generated horrors get added to the same unit of there is an existing one within 6". So you'll have to wait till next turn after you can run the first blue horror unit away before another one will get created.

>>50581642
split blue horrors HAVE to go into an existing blue horror unit if one exists within 6".
If there isnt already a blue horror unit, yes, you create a unit unit.

>>50581704
>>50581708
theoretically if you create your new blue horror unit at the maximum 6" away, and then pink horrors getting killed in the assault phase puts them out of range of this unit of blue horrors, you could create 2 seperate blue horror units in one turn, but its unlikely

>>50581587
High Elf Phoenix Guard and what ever the Archer unit is called. Mix those with Imperial Guard bits and boom: instant Spireguard

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Can I take an Allied Detachment of Daemons alongside my Emperor's Children Rapture Battalion?

>>50581781
why couldn't you?

>>50581781
Fuck yes you can.
I plan on fielding a keeper of secrets, unit of daemonettes, and a unit of seekers in exactly that way with my EC.

>>50581730
Horror creation was already FAQed to be "wholly within". You can't cheese that aspect of it.

>>50581708
>>50581704

Gotcha. though I figure it will only take a turn or two for my opponent to figure out I'm just getting him to make me free warp charge batteries and just ignore the Horror unit after that.

>>50581816
Horrors are still broken as fuck.

>>50581789
I'm just learning about formations and detachments. I've only used Combined Arms and Allied so far.
>>50581806
Thanks mate.

>>50581846
Oh yeah.

New Canoness is no longer limited edition. There will be limited quantities in store but she'll be available indefinetly as a webstore exclusive.

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>>50581814
right, but line them up so every blue horror is 6" away, then if enough pinks are killed later, you could theoretically be out of range.
not sayings its easy or likely, but its possible

>>50581850
quick and easy explanation:
you can take any number of any kind of detachment, of any faction, as long as you obey the restrictions of each detachment.

>>50581896
Hmm yeah. I guess it's technically possible. It's a bad idea to shoot horrors you plan to assault for a number of reasons though.

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>>50581891

>>50581920
its generally a bad idea to target horrors at all, really.
Only safe way is to *almost* kill them and hope instability finishes the job so they don't split

>>50580934
I've got the sprues with many of their bits on them at home, but off the top of my head I don't know... the Dark Vengeance termie squads come with one and I have a nagging suspicion that GW in their infinite jewery may have put just one in the DW command squad kit.

>>50578228
Respawning cultists is a rule in the AL detachment, not part of their legion tactics.

So whatever happened to vassal 40k? Did anyone ever use that to try and play a game?

>>50580934
sprue pics are on the gw website

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Wanting to run a chaplain with some lightning-claw cataphractii terminators, and Rule of Cool says run him in terminator armour, but my head tells me he might be better off without.

Pic related arriving tomorrow, but I have a stock chaplain waiting to be painted as well. I'm also quite frustrated that termie chaplains can't be run with power fists, but regular ones can...

How to run chaplains with terminators?

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CAN YOU HEAR THE PRIMORDIAL TRUTH, BROTHERS?

THE GODS BESTOW THEIR GIFTS UPON YOU, THEY SMILE UPON YOU

THEY SEEK THE DEATH OF THE FALSE EMPEROR

TREASURE THEIR GIFTS

>>50577806
Is that from Master of Mankind? I thought the fluff as of Outcast Dead was that the Emperor had always known that Horus was going to go rogue and just didn't do anything about it because reasons.

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>>50582353
>I thought the fluff as of Outcast Dead was that the Emperor had always known that Horus was going to go rogue and just didn't do anything about it because reasons.

>>50582353
He didn't do anything about it because Magnus wrecked his master plan to save humanity from Chaos.

With the webway ruined, there was no way to do it, so why bother?

>>50582292
Is he your main HQ? If so you could either give him the 2+ relic power armor and a fist or termie armor and the +3S relic sword.

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Whats an ideal loadout for a squad of wolf guard terminators in a land raider redeemer/crusader (still havent decided which im going to use)

Also would it be a poor move to bring a land raider to a 1500 point game?

>>50582424
If the Emperor knew Horus would go rogue, why not install someone else as Warmaster? Why not bring Horus to Terra and just have him sit in the corner while the Emperor does science? Why not implement some sort of watch-group to look for signs of the Chaos corruption that would have to be there to ensnare Horus?

If the Emperor knew that Horus was going to go rogue and decided that the best way to stop it was to just ignore it and try to implement a project that, ultimately, has no real effect on Warp's ability to fuck with humanity, then the Emperor is a moron.

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>>50582309
>190 points of the worst the codex can offer
>no Dark Apostle
>no Cultists
>Word Bearers

>>50582090
It's still around. I think most people that used it have migrated to tabletop simulator.

>>50582491
Hey, at least he'll have a Sorcerer summoning good units for the first turn or two!

>>50582460
Hammers and missiles for killing big shit
Claws and ass cannon for killing little shit
LR is fine in 1500

>>50582501
Does that actually have all the models somewhere? If so hook me up. I have a CSM player out-of-state I want to play.

>>50582524
I'm not sure, I know there's a lot of model packs floating around, including for CSM. I know there's /r/TTS40K on Reddit and they have a discourse chat room where they can get folks up to speed.

>>50582491

Spawn are pretty good suicide melee units now.

>>50582292

>chaplins get bikes, termie armor, and jump packs
>apostles get power armor only

I just want a flying apostle for my night lords damn it. The best I can do is give him the Armor of Shadows and stick him with some LC terminators that either walk or need a land raider.

>>50582309
is that serious?
do you seek help?

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are you going to watch it?

>>50581284
Scoria ties with Horus, so he'll probably kick Magnus's ass in melee.

>>50582435
There aren't any captains or CMs that those would be better on, so you do have a point there, but those options do nearly double his cost at 175 points. Worth considering, I guess.

>>50582611
insert post about Abaddon telling the traitors to leave all their cool toys before disappearing into the Eye of Terror here

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>>50582309
YES BROTHER!

LET THE WORD OF LORGAR BRING RUIN TO THE IMPERIUM AND GLORY TO THE GODS!

(Give Malefic Tome to the Sorceror and Scripts of Erebus to the Dark Apostle in my list, 2000/2000pts.)

If you came to the table and your opponent was playing, hypothetically, Dark Angels and asked to field a unit of Vanguard Veterans in a fluffy demi-company, would you be okay with that? They're not in our codex but fuck I've already bought and started painting them because I just couldn't resist the allure of ornate jump-packs and lots of unit customization. Do any anons have experience fielding technically illegal but fluff-reasonable and non-cheesy units?

Also do any anons have experience with usage of Mk III and IV armour in their 40k lists? I just started painting up some MK III tacticals and they look glorious, I was wondering if anyone had input on if they should be fielded together, spread out across tactical squads or their bits spread across the whole army.

>>50582644
Probably not going to pay for it. Might watch the free first one though.

>>50582309
Don't listen to the naysayers, anon, your list looks fun, fluffy and very enjoyable to paint. You're never going to beat anyone but hopefully if you're a good painter then it'll be great anyway!

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>>50582611
>chaplins

>>50582715
This

>>50582715
>pay for it
Pay for what?

>>50582740
Warhammer Live subscription service. 5 pounds a month for several livestreams a week.

>>50582706
>If you came to the table and your opponent was playing, hypothetically, Dark Angels and asked to field a unit of Vanguard Veterans in a fluffy demi-company, would you be okay with that?
if I am asked before and its not a cheesy list, i'd be ok with that

>Also do any anons have experience with usage of Mk III and IV armour in their 40k lists?
GW has for a long time put older Powerarmor parts in their SM boxes. So just mix in what you like, how you like.

SM player here. Started out small with a Captain, Tactical Squad, Devastator Squad and Scout Squad. Have access to Razorback/Rhino. How should I proceed? More tictacs or armor?

>>50582740
You gotta pay to sub to their twitch channel for the content

>>50582773
Some, pretty sure there's still going to be free streams.

>>50582725

That's my entire idea. My group are casual as hell, so I'm just building entirely for fluff and fun. And I love the Word Bearers.

>>50582689
Conjuring with a Sorcerer is a stupid idea. He'll peril himself to death. A Word Bearer's Prince is hella efficient at Summoning, on the other hand.

>>50582782
At least for the first week yeah, but I guess nothing in this hobby is free.
I probably won't sub, but I don't know that I'll be freeriding either, unless it completely replaces their Youtube/Facebook videos

>>50582769
More troops and probably some fast attack after, preferably a flyer.

>>50582769
What does your Captain actually do? If he hangs out with a shooty unit all battle, consider a librarian to buff them instead.

>>50582773
Huh. I can't think of a single other twitch stream that requires payment for the live content.

>>50582802
That was the original idea, but I thought the concept of Dark Apostle and Sorceror working together was cool.

Might change it if I find it really doesn't work though.

>>50582802
Also, so is possessed, and possessed in possessed Rhinos. But I don't let that stop me.

>>50582706
With the variety of options both modelling and gameplay, why? Dont like the rules? Want more bells and whistles? Play SM codex

>>50582802

Yeah I can't honestly see any way word bearers are gonna function besides spamming daemon princes with summoning and familiars.

>>50581063
>Muh spam
>Muh list
Play the army, not a list

>>50582877
Gee, it seems like all you guys care about is winning. But with how much these threads dislike WAACing, that can't possibly be true. :^)

>>50582706
I'd be happier if you ran them RAW and counts as, say in an allied detachment of SM codex that are just painted as Dark Angels. If they're replacing Assault Marines in the demi company then that's a fair chunk of versatility that you've added to a formation that's hardly shit-tier.

>>50582925
>4chan is one person

>>50582925
there is a difference between WAACfaggin and havin an army that can actually deal with you opponent.

>>50582871
Well specifically DA don't get a fast assault unit that can actually kill stuff except Black Knights, and while I love Black Knights, they're an incredibly powerful unit that isn't really appropriate to bring against every list, because its easy to just shit all over everything with 100% twin linked plasma, 30 attacks on the charge and 2++ rerollable jinks with the Darkshroud.

I'm not really interested in good formations or centurions or any of the other SM stuff, I just want some jump pack lads who can do more than lightly caress their opposition.

>>50582957
I was going to take them in the Veterans slot of the demi-company and then run a separate assault squad so I keep the tax.

>>50581081
All I care about is that Angron, should he reach the bastard, will tear the flamboyant turkey down in a mess of gore, and that is all that matters.

>Demon Angron when pls

>>50582802
Perils usually means one wound at worst. The odds of rolling a 1 for Perils and then failing a ld check are about 1 in 72.

Take a Palanquin and you're doubling your wounds. You can generate multiple powers on Nurgle now thanks to Legion rules. And Nurgle now has a cute power to let you heal D3 wounds while at it.

Feel free to be cute about it and model your Sorcerers as preachers on cultist warshrines or something badass like that.

Me? I personally like 3 of the 5 Warlord traits they get (Turning your dude into a Psyker, buffing nearby friendlies, or shifting mutation rolls by +-1), and the fact it's easy to adapt from the original Black Crusade formation to field them. Technically, cheeky Warlord Traits could give you stuff like a Maulerfiend with Zealot, a free Boon of Mutation, or Summoning (remember that Maulerfiends/Defilers/etc **are** Daemons so they wouldn't Perils when they summon...)

Incidentally, that Tzeentch Warlord Trait of "knows an additional power" would be useless on a non-psyker Warlord.
Hopefully that will also be FAQ'd.

>>50582925

There is almost zero reason taking word bearers for the mechanics, besides 3+ summoning.
Just play BL and call it word bearers if fluff is your thing.

>>50583013
Idk. If you really want to, draw up a list with your handwaving and another that's legal and then you can still give people a game if they say no.

>>50582837 Sounds like a plan, since the Captain's still not fully put together, power sword can double as a force one too. 5-man squads still the best way to go? Imperial Fists Chapter Tactics in use so I have Scouts make use of Heavy Bolter.

>>50578164
what program is that? seems like it would be easy enough to use.

>>50583047
2/3 of the perils results wound you. 1/2 of them have some other, additional negative effect.

I could understand going Malific on a Sorcerer in a low-point game, but if you already have a Daemon prince in the list, it's just retarded to not have him act as the Summoner.

LOL Jain Zar in dow3. Fuck i hate this, why they touched codex characters?

>>50583213
sauce

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Anyone got this to share?

Night LoLs

+Raptor Talon+

Chaos Lord Sigil, JP, Claws 145
Warp Talons X5, 1 GoM 170
Raptors X5, 2 MG 115
Raptors X5, 2 MG 115
Raptors X5, 2 MG 115
Raptors X5, 2 MG 115

+Favoured of Chaos+

Demon Prince PA, Wings, Mace, ML 3 335
Possessed x10 260
Possessed x10 260
Possessed x10 260

1890

>>50583090
No thanks.

>>50583159
It's in the OP.

>>50583275
>Night Lords

>that much Chaos

>>50583231
stream that just happened like an hour ago. personally I like jain zar, but I hope they dont put her as a speaking role or anything like that. I would have preferred a generic banshee exarch, though.

What do people use to read the epubs?

>>50583314

Hi ADB, you looking forwards to father's day?

Can someone write a list that works using Dark Angel terminators and Grey Knights..and by works means at the local shop not a GT

What goes into making a good GSC list with the cult insurrection detachment?

>>50583314
Yeah its not like there's at least two Night Lord Daemon Prices. Oh wait there are.

Seriously I'm sick of this attitude that every Night Lord is exactly the same in their attitude towards Chaos.

>>50583275
DP needs to buy a "Daemon of". List is pretty one-dimensional, and those Possessed are going to take massive casualties turn one before the Raptors come in to draw heat. Get some Rhinos and/or Sorcerers to support them.

>>50583323
I got a kindle for college, but I use mobi-pocket on my computer.

>>50583341
A big, fat, Subterranean Uprising detachment as your auxiliary. Most of the other formations are for funsies stuff, but that's the important one.

Either of the Core formations work, though money-wise it's usually easier to get the Cavalcade together considering the huge amount of acolytes you need for the Subterranean Uprising.

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>>50582309

>spending points on boons while your Raptors and Chosen don't have max special weapons
>spending points on boons while your psyker is only ML2 with no spell familiar
>mixing special weapons in your regular squads
>Possessed outside of Crimson Slaughter or Favoured of Chaos

the punishment for failing the Dark Council to this degree, is death by ritual sacrifice

>>50583170
I get that.

However, the Prince is **expensive** and not that tough for his cost. Frankly, if I wanted to spend the points to get a flying fighting monster, I would just find points for a detachment with a Lord of Change or two, especially it starts with ML 2 and is cheaper than **any** winged ML 1 Prince, while also having an extra wound and T6...and of course that Prince either needs the Malefic relic or a 2nd ML to even attempt to summon. Don't forget that Spell Familiar too. In the end, it just costs too many points.

A Palanquin Sorcerer is 50 points less than a LoC, and has full ML 3 and rerolls Psychic tests, and you can hide it in a cultist blob, and Nurgle is mostly a good discipline too, with 3 really handy blessings, and a tasty Witchfire to boot.

>>50583395
I'm glad to see people get excited about dusting their CSM off, but these new rules aren't good enough except for Death Guard for these absurdly bad lists to work even in friendly settings.

>>50583422
You assume that the lists will be bad forever.

been reading Traitor's Hate and realised that a Murder Sword on a Raptor Talon lord could be a really nice meme
tell me I'm not the first one

>>50583422

Not lists like that one, but other lists, yes. All the legions finally have something good going for them.

It's just there's a now split between legions where everything is good(Death Guard, Emperor's Chidlren, World Eaters, Night Lords, Iron Warriors) and only specific units are good(Black Legion, Alpha Legion, Word Bearers, Thousand Sons).

>>50583488
>All the legions finally have something good going for them.
What does Word Bearers have going for them?

Crusader and bonus on malefic?

>>50583488
>specific units are good
>Thousand Sons
kek

>>50583423
you can swap the slugga on the boyz nob for a shoota for free.

>>50583374
2nd this.

The calcavade seems way more solid then the mass dudes required to make the brood cycle work. I would suggest more than one Leman Russ with the twin linked auto cannon and heavy bolter sponsons. Decent ranged support and with that number of mid strength shots you can threaten FMC and lightly armored fliers. I would take a group of sentinels as well either scout with a heavy flamer or armored with the laser.

There's a debate on the first curse formation or not. Some prefer the large unit to hid the Pat in or small units to divide up threat. Generally, I like smaller units such as 5 to 12 across the board. I do however think the first curse is worth it. It will take lots of shooting and is generally overkill on whatever you attack though.

>tfw Word Bearers are the only legion without artificer armor or a daemon weapon

Are the Axe of Blind Fury and Black Mace good enough for WB? Funnily enough Scroll of Magnus makes more sense for WB than Thousand Sons(use it to make your Dark Apostle or Coryphaus a latent psyker). And Burning Brand makes more sense for WB than for World Eaters(burn the icons of the false emperor with hellfire!)

>>50583526
No.

>>50583533
>a group of sentinels
Nah. Take exactly one Sentinel with a heavy flamer and hope for lucky ambush rolls.

>>50583526
I know, I just do it anyway that I didn't feel the need to account for it in list building.

>>50583533
>the twin linked auto cannon
Hmm. In guard I normally prefer the ignores cover from the Eradictor. But the anti-transport firepower from Exterminators may indeed be better for GSC.

could the kakophoni formation work in a competitive environment?


6 units of ignore cover marines, possible 4+ fnp, str 5 shred rifles or str 9 blasts.....


I mean I could see them being a proper threat to eldar or bike lists

>>50582706
Only MkII and MkIII can have mixed parts as they're the same system. MkIV and V because V can use IV when possible, as IV is far better.

VII can use VI, but VIII can only use VII.

>>50583506

>Better Dark Apostles
>Free boons

Their relics are all niche and/or "vanilla":

>tome that gives extra daemonology power(for sorc or DP)
>tome that gives extra warp charges(dark apostle can carry this)
>better sigil that any hq can take(best for lord, warpsmith or DP)
>banner that causes enemy melee units to falter(for shooty 20 man legion squads or shooty cultists)
>one-handed relic blade that gives pref. enemy vs imperium(really good, wide variety of applications)
>skull that makes you hate smurfs more than ever(garbage)

The advantage of these relics is they are all very cheap in points.

>>50583506

Yup. They can poop out demons way faster and more reliably than any other legion.

>>50583718
Hmm I guess, so.. budget characters and summonspam.

Is there any way to rapidly kill my own characters as chaos Marines?

>>50583734

They actually poop out daemons faster and more reliably than actual Codex: Chaos Daemons does, now that horrors can no longer summon.

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>>50583741
I think I know a guy.

Swell dude, real stand up guy he is.

>>50583741
Plasma or daemon weapons.

>>50583768
Oops, should have said, they can't be special characters, I want it in alpha legion.

>>50583275

You're not even using any of the sweet NL relics.

The DP needs a God, so go with nurgle for Stealth+Shroud. Then, give him Talons of Night Terror(20pts) for d6 extra stacks on the charge.

Give your Lord a Viox Daemomocus(30pts) to give -1 to your opponents reserves as well as that sweet -4 fear test against anything that isn't Marines.

Stormbolt Armor (20pts) is a decent option for 2+ and +1 cover, and Claws of the Black Hunt are rending lightning claws, though expensive at 40pts.

>>50583346

They at least have stealth and +1 cover on turn 1, so they're not as defenseless.

>>50583798
Plasma, Plasma everywhere.

>>50583667
VI can freely use components from previous marks as can VII I believe.

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What color scheme should I paint my nids? I built the SC box and am at major road block. I suck donkey dicks at painting so I don't want to do anything too crazy.

>>50583841
How many of these cute Nids are there in this series?

>>50583841
>Watch the Alien trilogy
>Prime in black
>Lightly drybrush in grey (or a bright color for a glow effect)
>pick out details
>dip in gloss coat
>enjoy your new Xenomorph army

Also you should have sprung for the swarm box. Much better units than the SC box.

>>50583841
Kraken or Behemoth are probably good choices then. Leviathan can be a bit tricky to get looking right. Or you can do what ever you like. Just pick two contrasting colors, one for skin and one for carapace.

>>50583892
Frankly you want one of each box.

So for a Sicarian Rustalker squad with 2x Transphonic blades, is it worth taking the Chord Claw & Data Spike on the Princeps?

>>50583741
run the Black Crusade detachment and force Champion of Chaos rolls hoping for Spawn/Daemonhood

>>50583819
>>50583777
Excellent.

Killing your dudes seems like an excellent way to select for the best warlord traits.

>>50583591
What is this shitpost?

>>50583423
What service is this?

>>50583948
Unless you're forced to take them, don't take Ruststalkers.

Unless you're facing pure Terminator spam (In which case you should be spamming grav) Infiltrators are just better.

But if you have to take them, I personally never take the 2 blades, the +1S isn't worth the loss of the fleshbane attacks.

>>50584019
It's in the OP.

>>50583994
None of the traits are worth the waste in points. Just get your reroll like everyone else.

Do Orks relaunch Roks after they're smashed into a planet or do they just leave them and build more?

>>50584044
That's nice but it didn't answer anything.

>>50584061
It isn't really a loss in points if you take the lost and the damned. On average you'll get back one unit of cultists per cultist destroyed.

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>>50583865
a few

>>50583892
First off I never played 40k before. Second, my lgs had a few different kits laying around, though not we don't have a large community so product just sits there. I asked one of the regulars for advice on picking an army and he said go with aesthetics so I picked the cute ones. Swarm box looks cool, I'll probably swing for it whenever I figure out what I want next. I received a lot of advice on army building but it all goes over my head. Not sure what to buy next desu

As far as color scheme, I kinda want some contrast.

>>50583909
How is leviathan tricky exactly? Also, I was thinking about just going with one of the hive fleet schemes like you say but still can't choose.

Also I have no paints. Is this at all worth it?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Tyranids-Paint-Bundle-Leviathan

>>50584084

Once they land they're fortresses. I don't believe they relaunch them, no.

Besides, plenty more free roks floating around in space.

>>50584084

The regular Orks just smash into the planet.

The smarter Orks leave a few in orbit and teleport back and forth between them.

Majority, after conquering a planet, will either just wait for a Space Hulk to warp in and then build all the shit ships they can to go board it, or they'll build a tractor beam to pull asteroids into orbit and repeat the above while building guns and propulsion into it.

>>50584106
You're asking if having a chordclaw is good, and fuck yeah it is. Because it's straight up better than the blades. To the point where they should all be using them. And dataspike is always worth it for gibbing cheeky dreads

>>50583423

Honestly I'd drop the Boyz squad; they're not going to accomplish anything much.

The Tankbusta squads are also quite large for being taken in Trukks. As a general rule, if I'm running TBs in Trukks, I keep squads relatively small, around 7-8 at most, since Trukks are so explosion prone. 10 and up go in a Battlewagon for a bit of extra protection. If it's in a Trukk, it's a disposable unit.

I also think there's too many TBs. Ever since the Great Grenade Nerf of '16, TBs just aren't as good as they used to be (and someone is going to chime in now and say you could always only use 1 grenade in CC, but that's not the way most of the world was playing it). In keeping with the speedy theme, a suicide squad of MANZ in a Trukk would be a pretty good addition I feel. Never really gone wrong with them.

>>50584106
Yes. Always take the Dataspike. The claw is debatable (I prefer claws anyway, so to each his own) but especially with swords the Dataspike is a must have. You'll get 5 auto-hit haywire attacks against vehicle on your alpha, so guard will be afraid.

I know they get shit on, but Ruststalkers are pretty good. Very fast, scary as hell against stuff that can't kill them back in CQC (Tau shit their pants at these guys) and the single best grenade in the game combo'd with haywire makes for a good time at just 170 pts.

Do the Chordclaw if you want, but the Dataspike you MUST take. 100% worth it

>>50584144
The white with pink shading is a little tricky compared to the straight colors in all the other schemes. Watch the WarhammerTV tutorials if you're interested. They have one for Leviathan and one for Behemoth.

https://youtu.be/gevL5Rvn0Jc
https://youtu.be/PJaW_rQIS_s

>>50584144
The bundles don't save you money, they're just to make shopping easier.

>>50584224
>You'll get 5 auto-hit haywire attacks against vehicle on your alpha, so guard will be afraid.
why auto-hit?

>>50584248

The SC boxes absolutely do save money.

What formations are good for an old-fashioned shooty Spess Yiffs list?

>>50584215
>Boyz squad
Back field objective sitters

>The Tankbusta squads are also quite large for being taken in Trukks.

They're going to die, I don't want them to be useless from the get go and I also want enough bodies to get those 9 str 8, hitting on 2 Squig Bombs off, they won't be in CC.

>suicide squad of MANZ
Easy single target, overly expensive, would limit how much fire power I have for 2-3 bodies.

>In keeping with the speedy theme
Theme is Str5+ guns, not speed.

>>50584427
S'why he said Bundles and not Battleforces/Start Collecting

>>50583827
Other way around. VI and VII were designed so that the two could use each other's parts and components interchangeably.

>>50584432
>shooty Spess Yiffs
You're yiffing wrong.

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>>50584248
Well that sucks.

>>50584228
Is there anything for kraken? I already watched those and they looked really informative.

Also, are the tyranid painting books worth it or is it GW trying to shaft me with more overpriced crap?

>>50584495

The painting guides are in the Mega in the OP.

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>>50584495
What the fucking fuck is that picture

>>50584481
GW can eat my dick if they want me to abandon all my bolters for wulfens and mass wolfriders. It's not my fault they changed strats after all these years.

>>50584551
If you have ever played long range space wolves, you've done it wrong. Mayreens are shooty, wolves are bitey. Fluff army or bust.

>>50584449
>Back field objective sitters
Dat a grotz job ya git, dey hide betta and noffing wasted aving them hidin' like a.. err. grotz

I have a question. If I ran ig and scions and ran them with some tanks a few valkyries and of course, infantry, you know combined arms warfare. On a scale of 1 to 10 how viable would it be? Or would it just be an absolute waste of my momey?

>>50584584
No, the grotz job is to guard the Mek guns.

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Rate for casual games at local store, list building strategy mostly "How do I run what I already have?"

>>50584566
Mahrens are shooty, bloods are choppy, darks are plasmey. and wolves are flashy. They take more heroes and gear, which includes more guns.

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>>50584510
I looked through a couple of those mega links and couldn't find any nids ones. The current one and probably 2 or 3 of the outdated ones.

>>50584515
It is a graphical depiction of what happened to Karla the witch in the Irithyll Dungeon in Dark Souls 3. It's also how I feel anytime someone recommends me what I need next and I check the price. I was told this game was expensive, but holy shit.

>>50583346
Sorry, is "Daemon of", forgot to write it up, but it's in the points. Still undecided (Slaan vs Tzz)

>>50584515
Tags: non-consensual, bestiality, monster(male), mind break

>>50584612
Ultramarines chapter tactics, in case it matters.

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>>50584612
>2009 points
Save 9 fucking points off you cheating Peace of shit.
>Calm your autism bro xDDD
A points limit is points LIMIT, not an APPROXIMATION.

>>50584612

>2009 points

what memery is this

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>>50584704
>2009
The year he was born

>>50583804
The Raptor Lord has the Claws. Have to look at the other relics more carefully.

Would the Talons gain AP2 on the DP? Would he be better with the Stormbolt armor (DoT for 2+/4++/3+++ (bonus jinking if that stacks)

>>50584690
>>50584704

It's the local's gimmick, they do 2017 point armies in 2017, 2016 this year etc. etc. Thx for the nerd rage though.