Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for Riptides are Tau's TEQ.

>>50575799
That's just the markings of the T'eq Sept.

>>50575799

That is a very informative info graph, but its not labeled.

>>50575808
Topkek. I wish I screencapped the post where someone realized it looks like sept markings and photoshopped them onto a Riptide.

>>50575810
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Riptides_aren%27t_OP_in_7th

Alright /tg/, let's just for a moment, forget Riptides - how do I counter a Stormsurge?

Hard mode: No Grav, no tank shock.

>Orks are a melee race!
>I2

>>50575826
I know we all like to meme about that, but seriously, low initiative is part of Orks racial identity and shouldn't change.

How do we make Orks good in melee without buffing their Init?

>>50575824

What army do you play?

>>50575824
depends what army you're playing.

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Those of you who got the collector's edition, how do you like it? What's your number?
I'm loving it and how beautiful it is. Subtle dubs in the form of 1212 here.

>>50575824
Thunderstrike Gauntlet

>>50575834
Make them incredibly durable so they can survive to swing

Fix their leadership so they can stay in combat

>>50575824
Wraithknights with dual heavy wraithcannons

Hey /tg/, do you guys happen to know any books that revolve around the Adeptus Mechanicus? Story books, not just the two codices. I don't mind the era it is happening in, be it 30k or 40k, I just want some good Mechanicus literature.

>>50575834
orks are actually pretty good in melee, provided they can survive. the reason they aren't very competitive is because they die in huge numbers so easily

>>50575840
>>50575843
Starting Alpha Legion next week.

I don't even wanna talk about my current army.

>>50575871

Orks or nids I am guessing then

>>50575868
Try the Priests of Mars/Lords of Mars/Gods of Mars trilogy anon

>>50575868
Don't know how good it is yet but there's one actually called Adeptus Mechanicus. You're going to have to look on shit library though.

>>50575882
It's nids

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>>50575889

>>50575824
Wait, since when tank shock affects GKs?

Fuck, I need so many brimstone horrors, and they are only sold on that boardgame. Anyone know alternative minis that would work?

Some say that just convert nurglings, but I can't see how that would work, they are so clearly piles of shit instead of fire.

>>50575928
Normally it doesn't.

In the current draft FAQ it insta-gibs Stormsurges when they have their anchors deployed.

I don't wanna rely on that, though, because it'll probably get changed from all the Tau players moaning about it, just like they changed Dark Eldar (which, that one was a fair change).

>>50575834
I thought about something like they only die at initiative step 1 even if they're lost their lsat wound before that, unless they're instantdeathed.

>>50575824
D shooting/psychic powers

>>50575933
Youre supposed to greenstuff flames all over them except the eyes and mouth.

You could also try not running Brimstones because they're OP horseshit.

>>50575944
D shooting might be tough.

Psychic powers sounds solid. Are they easy to Shriek to death?

So 300 points of Tzeentch demons seems mandatory to make Thousand Sons lists work.

Are people still gonna get pissed at you bringing Magnus when everything else is garbage?

>>50575947

Brimstones are OP?

>>50575952
Yes, because Magnus is another level of OP entirely from even Wraithknights.

>>50575958
Maybe not if you run them on their own, but if you're getting them from splitting horrors then yeah, it's kind of absurd.

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>>50575883
>>50575888
Alright, thanks for the quick response!

>>50575834
Give them good, cheap wargear.
They're shit at shooting, it's why they get assault 1 missle launchers for 5 points.
Allow boyz to take armour for cheaper and allow them to take burnas (with the shitty restriction removed) for 10 points.

>>50575970

Ah ok, I was planning on running them alone and was worried people would complain.

>>50575970
>because Magnus is another level of OP
He's 950 points minimum to run him as TS have no way of getting enough warp charges without demon support.

>>50575995
If you're mixing them in with TS it probably won't be an issue since TS are actually really BAD without daemon support.

If you're running pure tzeentch daemons, however... well, you're already one of the top 2 armies in that case so idk.

>>50576002
And with that 300 points of support he's completely invincible and spams mass D without any counters.

>>50576020
Meh, my orks can take him.

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>>50575784
Have a 1000pt casual games night tomorrow and was planning on running this, is it viable? I went with a fluffy list and am worried it might not fare well.

>>50576020
This is so fucking dumb. Wtf are you supposed to do with this supplement. Cant run Magnus and cant run without him.

>>50575868
Mechanicum is by the author who did the X of Mars series and it's also good fun.

Also the only Horus Heresy novel I've read because Mechanicus.

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>>50576037

I want to tank the anon for naming my canoness the Kranoness in a thread not dying.

Hi, I'm new and starting DA ORKZ, i can't wait to start a fearsome WAAAGH!!

I went to my local GW and had a demo game and the staff told me about how funny the orkz are so I bought some. I've got:

Warboss
6 Nobz
Morkanaut
20 Slugga Boyz in Trukkz

I was told this was a deadly melee force, what should I get next?

>>50576044
Magnus will most likely solo what ever you play against.

>>50576060
Less shitty pasta.

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>>50576060

>>50576070
I don't understand what you mean

The Morkanaut is a tough walker with a mean melee punch and my Nobz with kombi rokkitz and big choppas can threaten tanks with high strength shooting and krump enemies in melee

>>50576074
not baiting, just new

why is this thread so unhelpful?

Daily Reminder you shouldn't give a shit about the setting, the background, the fluff or anything. Just shut the fuck up and roll dice you autistic mantit babies.

>>50576090
>giving a shit about the game

>>50576089
>>50576085
New players don't pluralize with z nor use the word krump.

Neck yourself.

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>>50576092
>he actually plays the game

>>50576089
orks iz already best

you can run anything you wantz and krump any army so there iz no advice to give

>>50576090
>Rolling your own dice
Pleb

>>50576090
The game is the weakest part of 40k.

>>50576044
for christ's sake stop using this website

>>50576112

Nah, I enjoy the social aspect of it. Have a very tight group though, only time I actually leave my house too.

>>50576102
The GW staff told me all about the fluff and I've played Dawn of War

When we played the demo game the staff guy said when you call a Waagh you should really get.into character, it makes the dice luckier

>>50576117
>The social aspect.
Which is not the game.

When is ed. 8 Coming?

>>50576112
Wrong. You shouldn't care about what a BL author says about the setting because who the fuck cares about the setting?

Just shut the fuck up and let Chaos win, unless you're an Imperialfag, then you at least get the honor of being killed by Chaos, while the other xenos races just act as jobbers.

>>50576090
>Imperialfags so mad they're dragging this shit into a new thread
Get out. You're literally proving that guy right.

>>50575818

>Someone bothered to make an article for a meme that died in the thread it was born

>>50576137
If you don't care about the setting just play Warpath.

>>50576140
>You're literally proving that guy right.
It's that guy posting it you idiot.

>>50575834

>How do we make Orks good in melee without buffing their Init?

Double the Wounds and Hull Points of all Ork models (except Grots).

Fits their fluff - Ork vehicles are covered in scrap metal, totems and trophies and other miscellaneous junk that can be blown off without affecting the vehicle noticeably, but they go down hard to shots big enough to just blow them apart. Similarly Orks are described as monstrously tough to bring down, except against weapons strong enough to blast or melt them to smithereens. Also gives the army an identity: whole army of multi-wound tough models that aren't particularly good at either shooting or combat, but have great survivability, except against very heavy weapons.

>>50576145
People forced that shit for days.

>>50576145
You must not have been around much back then. That meme dominated threads for a solid 6 days.

>>50576140
>he thinks it's the same guy
>he doesn't think it's one of the eternal shitposts going for (You)'s

Look at this post >>50576060 and tell me people don't bait. That's literally what the guy is doing.

>>50576160
No it's obvious false-flagging to bait people. Just fucking ignore it you faggot.

>>50576123

I guess that could be true for autist, but when I play the game with another person I am socializing with them.

No point in arguing though, everyone plays their own way.

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>>50576160
>being this new

>>50576179
You could be social over another game, it's not a unique factor of 40k rules that makes you social.

>>50576173
Why is asking for advice baiting

I genuinely want some advice

>>50575834
Cheaper wargear and stikkbomms are now defensive grenades for that blinding small blast.

>>50575834
+1 Armour Save and +1Ld for every 5 models near them.

>>50576163
AoS orruks are a lot like that. Most of them, besides the very basic, lowest level ones have 2-3 wounds.

Savage Orruks are 2wpm, so are 'ardboyz, Brutes are 3.

It works really well.

>>50575834
Make all their charge attacks HoW

>>50576044
Viable? Yes.
Fair? No.

Unless your oponent is taking a Wraith Knight, Knight or a couple of riptides, fucking wind that in. Magnus is going to stomp everything and it won't be fun.

I kinda want to get this mentality out that having a single Magnus is "OP". It's not. He's the Thousand Son's TEQ.

>>50576203
>A group of 11 or more Orks in 'evy armour have terminator saves
Does this fix Orks?

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Imperial Agents leak when? I need to know if my cheap psyker and Chimera psybolt spam is still useful.

>>50576223
Late friday, early saturday.

Same as the last two, it's like you people don't learn.

>>50576215
That's because there is no weapon kill, toughness or anything differentiating a unit from another other than the number of it's wounds and it's save.

>>50576233
rend and damage.

>>50576222
Sorry, I should have worded it better.

+1 Armour Save in general.

Separate rule is +1Ld for each group of 5 nearby. Not +1 Armour Save and +1Ld for every 5.

>>50576223
Piss the fuck off to >>/wsr/, or fucking wait like the rest of you cheap fucking bastards.

>>50576230
I'm not used to have GW that affect my army.

Witch Hunter player of old. Used to run Inquisitorial Storm Trooppers and count as SoB.

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>>50576254
Sorry for not talking for Marine to Marine action like some kind of gay porno.

>>50576259
There might be teasers from GW over the next few days, but the real leaks are going to come from the review copies once their NDAs runs out on Saturday.

>>50576020
So? What stops you from killing 300 pts of Horrors first and finishing Magny after that?

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>>50576259
You getting the new Canoness model?

>The daemons that managed to reach the Emperor suffered worst of all. The strongest, most savage of their kind, they swung weapons at a man who was no longer there, cleaving through the golden mist that swirled in His place. With thunder-cracks of psychic force, the golden warlord would appear at the beasts' backs, His flaming sword already buried in their spines.

Heh...nothing personnel, kid....

>>50576283

You can pretty safely start Magnus in reserves, its damn near impossible to table someone who has 300 points in pink horrors before Magnus shows up now.

>>50576037
Orks actually have one of the best units in the game for taking him down. Just spam Traktor cannons and tarpit him when he's on the ground.

>>50576313
So Magnus shows up, but he heve no warp charges to draw upon seve his own 5.

I don't get why people think Magnus won in WoM. He was driven off Fenris and couldn't finish off the wolves. Worse of all is that after the war concluded Logan was more determined and focused them ever after seeing Russ and witnessing the devastation of his home. This spurned him to head to Cadia and become the overall commander of the Imperial forces there.

It;s canonical that Logan led the Imperials to victory against Abaddon, halting the 13th Black Crusade in its tracks and preventing the Cadian Gate from falling. This means that Magnus directly caused the traitor side to lose by failing to finish off the wolves and by igniting the fighting spirit of Logan Grimnir.

>>50576360
Fuck off Carnac.

>>50576360
Just as planned...

>>50576322
I know, s why i said it.
Bs2 means invisibility is minor and weve chap wnough bodoes that D beams will likeli cause him more points lost

>>50576297
I bet she could kill a man using only her vagina.

>>50576283
usually the fact that horrors split into blue horrors on death, and the blue horrors now turn into brimstone horrors on death. they're now efficient tarpits.

>>50576297
I don't collect SOB, but I'll be getting this model. Looks like fun to paint.

>>50576369
>Carnac
>not sucking dick of Chaos

Wew.

>>50576378
Sexy.

>>50576385
Major problem is it's apparently a hyper limited release. I dunno if it's like their 2 other super rare Limited Edition models they released this year that require you to go to a specific store opening AND spend £100 to get.

>>50576369
That doesn't make sense.
Carnac is pro-Chaos.

>>50576392
>>50576390
it's just a newfag trying to join in with the memes.

>>50576390
>>50576392
Carnac is a troll. See him on Newcron and tau. He literally shit posts for reactions on every new release.

>>50576406
The only one shitposting now is you.

>>50576390
>Major problem is it's apparently a hyper limited release.

I won't be super disappointed if I miss out on this one, if that's the case. I'd rather see people who plan on fielding the model, get it over me.

>>50576406
Naw he just has genuinely stupid opinions about everything.

>>50576359

and from the blue horrors and the brimstones

>>50576360
TS victory goals were:
- Making wolves suffer as much as TS did during the Burning of Prospero. Check.
- Doom Wolves to slow and agonizing decline complete with mutations and insanity just like the doomed TS way back when. Check.
- Power up the ritual for teleporting Sortarius. Check.

Magnus get banished in the end, but he met all of his victory conditions. Bonus points for manipulating Inquisition and GK into dealing the finishing blow and genociding remnants of Fenrisians after Wolves started to think they "won".

>>50576412
>replying with information is shit posting
Tell me more Anon.

Back to the question. Can we all agree that Magnus dungoofed hard?

>>50576422
>derailing discussion to talk about a boogeyman

>>50576432
>all agree
>/tg/

You the one dungoofed hard.
"We all" can't even agree on Orks being the weakest army.

>>50576432
>In the Warp, a cacophony of wild laughter bubbled through the aether. The grand work was complete. The fools of Fenris, thinking their nemesis banished at the last, already prepared to leave their world all but undefended once more. It was a pleasing enough twist in its own fashion, but in truth, Magnus’ agenda was far more grandiose.
Fenris is left barely defended and Magnus doesn't even give a shit.

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Has GW announced any info in relation to blue horror and brimstone horror boxed sets?

>>50576421
>- Power up the ritual for teleporting Sortarius. Check.

His ultimate goal is to destroy the Imperium, right? The events of WoM are meant to have his forces help the 13th Black Crusade in the conquest of the Imperium. We know that this failed because the Imperial alliance led by Logan kicked the traitors back to the Eye. By not finishing the wolves, Magnus failed his life's goal and cause traitors to lose.

That's what I am driving at.

>>50576413
Problem is, the likely result is people buy it to scalp it. Last time I checked, the LE Terminator Chaplain was going for £90 minimum on UK Ebay, with everything from $100 (11 days left bid) to $500 (Buy Out) on USA Ebay.

So I fear that's the result.

>>50576443
Not him, but Carnac is easy to spot. He isn't a 'boogeyman', boogeymen don't actually exist, Carnac does.

>>50576453
That's because the Sisters are the weakest. They no like zero updates.

>>50576453
>I-It doesn't m-matter I got my ass kicked!
>It's all just a set up for an even bigger plan, to make you let your guard down!
>y-you'll s-see!
Magnus taking lessons from Abaddon on how to save face after a massive failure?

>>50576456

Not yet, but they can't be to far behind if they already released the tzaangors. Maybe saving it for the next quarter because that shit is going to sell like hot cakes

>>50576465
If he is easy to spot then we wouldn't see people calling innocent people carnacs.

>>50576475
No, but you're forgetting it's a shitpost tactic in and of itself. Not everybody recognises him, though he isn't hard to spot.

>>50576453

That post is the kind of shit Carnac would post. Not saying he is.

>the agents of the Ordo Hereticus were frequent guests in the Fang’s halls.
How do Wolfers feel knowing that there are culls going on frequently on Fenris after their population got blown the fuck out?

Logan's weak. He wouldn't even let an Ecclesiarchy vessel near Fenris in the past and now theres an Inquisitor of the Ordo Heretics doing what ever he wants whilst he fucks off to Cadia?

>>50576452

I'd like to know what army could be considered worse off than Orks. DE might have been a contender before the FAQ ruling on Jink was reversed, and CSM might have had a shot before Traitor Legions.

>>50576481
Then who is Carnac in this thread. Am I Carnac? Are you Carnac?

>>50576461
>His ultimate goal is to destroy the Imperium, right?
I doubt it. All the TS lore from start to finish shows they don't give a fuck about Imperium save their grudges against Wolves. Which is now settled. Now they can focus on some real work like breaking into the Black Library.

>>50576470
Thanks. Looking forward to trying them out. I'm not going to spam them, just want a few. They look like fun.

>>50576461
>We know that this failed because the Imperial alliance led by Logan kicked the traitors back to the Eye

Last time the wolves weren't critically low on men nor were all the primarchs back, so we have no fucking clue what's going to happen.

Besides, Abaddon is skipping Cadia entirely this time. See Traitor's Hate.

>>50575846
Didn't bothering buying it. I don't buy into such expensive "exclusive" stuff. But I'm really intrigued on designing and crafting my own deck of psychic cards and tokens out of wood or metal. Might be my next DIY project.

>>50576461
Old Eye of Terro campaign was retconned ages ago. Leave it behind.

>>50576494
I dunno, lol.

Carnac is anti-Imperial and usually writes huge blocks of out of context text, or one sentence text, to prove his head canon to get (You)'s.

>>50576469
>The works of the Cyclops did not stop there. In bringing fire and damnation to Fenris, Magnus had given his adversaries a taste of his own people’s fate; the gene-stock of the Space Wolves was tainted by mutation and madness, and monstrous tentacled fiends hunted those still hale and strong. In turning one brotherhood of Space Marines against the strongholds of another, he had ensured the flames of the Horus Heresy roared back into horrible life. More specifically, by manipulating the Space Wolves into destroying a world populated by their former allies, Magnus had echoed the execution of his own planet – and expertly harnessed the psychic backlash of billions of dying souls in the process.
>In terms of metaphysical ritual, it was the single most powerful arcane gambit to have been attempted since the ignition of the Astronomican. With the destruction of Midgardia harnessed by the Silver Towers, it had been an unqualified success.

Stay salty.

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>>50576465

>Carnac is easy to spot

Not to you retards he isn't. People will scream CARNAC at literally anything. I've had people call me Carnac because I cited some lore in greentext. This general couldn't identify him if their life depended on it, but every cunt is always sure they're right.

Now stop giving an attention seeking troll attention dipshit. Want to slap every twat that brings him up. Even if you're right for once and it IS him, you're still the loser because you replied to bait fuckwheel.

>>50576487
>Culls

The problem is that the High Lords have their eyes on Fenris atm so the wolves can't do nothing. After the 13th Black Crusade is defeated which canon-wise took a single year maybe two, Logan returned to Fenris to rule it. With the traitors defeated, the High Lords will focus on other things like necrons and nids. This means the wolves can safely kick out the Inquisition and restore their sovereignty. Hereticus won't do much damage in a year span. The people of Fenris survived much worse than what the Hereticus can do.

>>50576495
>I doubt it

Don't do that. WoM says Magnus wants to destroy the Imperium.

>>50576538
>After the 13th Black Crusade is defeated which canon-wise took a single year maybe two
Go read Traitors hate. I have no idea why people think the fluff is still the same from the old eye of terror campaign.

Also
>Hereticus won't do much damage in a year span
Kek. Sure thing bud.

>>50576514

>Writing in sentences or paragraphs makes you a specific shitposter

Don't be retarded.

>Implying he hates a specific faction and doesn't say whatever gets replies

He made his name by being anti-eldar and then moved on to imperial tears when they prove an easy target.

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>>50576538
Anon, Abaddon's going on a full reunion tour.

He's getting the band back together and taking his show on the road.

From the Cadian Gate to the gates of the Imperial Palace, Baybay!

Time to rock Terra like it's M31!

>>50576055
650 points of lootas would probably fuck him up desu.

>>50576524
But I don't randomly call people Carnac, faggot. I just stated he's easy to spot and I don't call anybody out anyway, faggot. I know who he is when he posts and just ignore him. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>50576553
>Traitor's Hate

Obviously will fail because no way GW will have Abaddon skip Cadia by drowning it in the Warp. That's anticlimactic. Traitor's Hate has the Bangels contacting the GK to deal with the daemon cage. Next book the cage will be dealt with for sure.

>>50576564
I know who he is. He just is, at the moment, anti-Imperial. He was pro-Necrons when he was under his trip, then went Pro-Chaos then Pro-Tau and now goes between whatever ones get him the most (You)'s.

As for sentences or paragraphs, that's not what I meant. >>50576522 that's the kind of shit I meant. Blocks of fluff text to prove a point, taken out of context. That guy probably isn't him, but that's the kind of shit that happens.

>>50576584
What ever makes you happy Anon. Its clear that things are different from the old representations so clinging to them seems odd.

>>50576553
>Kek. Sure thing bud.

>survive a massive corrupted ecclesiarchy invasion
>survive two daemonic invasions by Fagnus
>bu...but they won't survive a few Inquisitorial purges

Smh

>>50576584
It's too late, Anon. The cage is broken, there's no fixing it.

>>50576576

Can you read fuckwit? I never said you, I said 'people'. If he were easy to spot you wouldn't have every third thread shit itself to death with random cries from both sides of the argument. Stop bringing him up and giving him what he wants. At this point, it's you who's shitposting and derailing.

>>50576590
>I meant. >>50576522 that's the kind of shit I meant.

Are you saying that guy is wrong and Magnus lost or what? What's the context here.

>>50576601
I don't think you understand how thorough the Inquisition is. This isn't just some "Oh shit, they grew tenticles, shoot it!" outfit. This is "That baby looks a little abnormal, better kill it to be safe." level of purging.

>>50576495
Well, Ahriman's part in the WoM book says that Magnus now owes him a favour, which he's going to use to break into the Black Library and look for a way to properly do the rubric this time. So yeah, that's probably where the thousand sons are headed next. Besides, the T-sons never could pass up an opportunity to get new knowledge, and the biggest and most advanced library in the galaxy is a pretty tempting prospect to them.

>>50576602
The GK are there. The techpriest who was studying it and developing technology based on it, managed to upload his memory into a new body.

The plot threads all lead to the daemon cage being resolved in the favour of the Imperium

>>50576617
Add to that the culture of Fenris is heretical as fuck. I think its the biggest cheap shot in the book.

Besides I didn't think the Inquisition was supposed to operate on Space Marine homeworlds?

>>50576590

>Blocks of fluff text to prove a point

Aspies posting lore to prove a point is not unique to anyone. That's 90% of /tg/. Shit like this is why threads get derailed into talking about some shitposter. You think it's one guy that posts lore and has opinions on it. You achieve nothing by trying to label a poster as carnac other than ruining the thread, which is probably what he wanted if it was him, so next time just ignore it.

>>50576469
Magnus didn't come to Fenris looking for single minded destructive vengeance this time, anon. If he'd wanted that he could've used an exterminatus instead of going to all this effort. He was looking to do things in order to further the plans of Tzeentch, he's playing the long game now.

>>50576621
>Old Ahriman wanted to get into the BL to gain godhood
>New Ahriman wants to get into the BL to fix what he has done

Worse retcon or worst retcon?

>>50576630
>The techpriest who was studying it and developing technology based on it, managed to upload his memory into a new body.

Because letting Tech Priests dick about with unknown tech involving daemons has ever worked out well.

>>50576638
You misunderstand, I was just saying that he's one of them who does it. That's all. I never said it was him. I didn't label anybody as 'Carnac'.

>>50576648
Best retcon but only if you've read the Ahriman series to understand. Honestly best BL series released.

>>50576648
Eh, It makes him more relatable and shows off the general theme of the Thousand sons, which was always "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" but old ahriman certainly had a power hungry charm about him.

>>50576648
That's actually a good retcon. Ahriman wanting to undo his deeds is actually pretty cool. I like that. The fact that when (if) he ever gets to the BL, he'll probably be turned into a Daemon Prince for shits and giggles will be pretty sweet (in a cruel way).

>>50576648
I like it, makes him less of a flat moustache twirler.

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>>50576567
>tfw motley crue retired before I could field noise marines in their honour

>>50576297
Assuming it ships to my third world country I will.
More than willing to pay retarded taxes

>>50576681
What country?

>>50576631
it's very much supposed. DOZENS of chapters get purged for much lesser shith than Wolves pull. The only two reason how Wolves got away with what they did was because they where first founding and because they had the strength to protect themselves. Now they are understrehght and the Inquisition is too triggered by the daemon primarch incursion to give a fuck about foundings.

>>50576691
Uganda

>Legion of the Damned are 2 points more than rubrics
>Better invuln
>Armoury-wide Ignores Cover
>Useful Deepstrike rules

>>50576648
Eh I like his new motive. Every generic chaos champion and their wifes son wants to gain godhood or some other form of immense power.

>>50576696
RARE
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>>50576671
>Silent King wants to undo the biotransference and return the Necrons to flesh, reversing the curse that he brought upon his people
>Ahriman wants to undo the Rubric and return the Thousand Sons to flesh, reversing the curse that he brought upon his people

The Thousand Sons continue their plagiarism of the Necrontyr.

>>50576703
Salty Imperialfags need to justify their existence with crunch because the fluff outright states they lose whatever happens, so gotta give them something.

>>50576631
>Besides I didn't think the Inquisition was supposed to operate on Space Marine homeworlds?
Isn't there an Ordo Astartes for just such an occasion? I'd imagine an Ordo Hereticus or Ordo Malleus would have one tag along since it's in their wheelhouse and they'd have the jurisdiction and the know-how.

At the end of the day I'm pretty sure what the Inquisition "can" and "can't" do comes down to the power and influence of the Inquisitor in charge of a warband and not what the rules say. As far as Inquisitors are concerned there really are no rules beyond "don't be a blatantly obvious heretic" and even those get perverted, and as a result they're just as likely to go to war with each other over philosophical differences than with anyone else.

>>50576711
>yfw they fight because Ahriman gets a cure that'll work and won't share

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>>50576662
>Honestly best BL series released.
SECOND best BL series released

>>50576711
the thousand sons were here before hungry metal skeletons, fuck off and get your own story.

>>50576594
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Eye_of_Terror_Campaign

"The campaign was hard-fought and senior Games Workshop executives have commented that the events of the campaign will provide a foundation for the rich background lore of the Warhammer 40,000 universe for years to come"

>>50576714
I know bro, I mean I love my rubrics but that's just the gayest shit right there.

>>50576490
"CSM cause allies and supplements aren't in the codex so don't count"

Literally a /tg/ quote.

>>50576691
Chile. Right now they ship to Chile. If they accept shipping super special ultra limited edition models? No idea

>>50576693
>to give a fuck about foundings.
You'd think the wolves fans would be more mad about this but I literally haven't hears a thing about it. It literally flies in the face of everything that they had stood for recently.

>>50576715
>At the end of the day I'm pretty sure what the Inquisition "can" and "can't" do comes down to the power and influence of the Inquisitor
This is ultimately correct but this is a first founding/legion. See what I mean? Its actually a huge bit of disrespect to be so casually thrown out.

>>50576737
Because nothing will come off it. Woofs will beat up Abaddon and then return home to kick the outsiders and celebrate a new saga in a flash.

>>50576715
Nope.
That's marines payment.

Total Autonomy on home and recruiting worlds.

>>50576731

I'll give you supplemented but not allies.

It's like saying:
>Dark Eldar are top tier man! All you have to do is take 150pta of dark eldar and 1600 points regular eldar!

>>50576718
Cain is great but its entry level. We all love it but we also know its flaws
>Jurgen body odour
>If only I'd known what I was getting into I would have...
>Cain does something heroic because he's too scared not too

>>50576752
Well you've certainly got the fanboy attitude not to care but fluff wise does this truely not bother you?

>>50576662
>>50576718
Neither of those are Blood and Thunder.

>>50576760
>Almost an entire chapter about rape.
>Semen and blood used as paint
Fucking Horus Heresy novels

>>50576752
Except Fenris is now depopulated wasteland and they cannot recruit elsewhere.

>>50576737
>Its actually a huge bit of disrespect to be so casually thrown out.
You're right, it is. The problem is that the Space Wolves have been pissing off the Inquisition for a very long time, so as far as the Inquisitors are concerned they've had it coming, first founding attack dogs of the Emperor or not. If they sense weakness and have the available resources I'm sure there's an Inquisitor or two that would love to go fuck 'em up. Remember, with how diverse the Inquisition is and how outrageously fucking crazy some of them are there's somebody that wants to do just about anything.

That said, Space Wolves are obviously too popular to just get killed off by GW, so this is really just plot fuel to further conflict with internal imperial elements especially with the new Imperial Agents book coming. More fodder for scenarios, campaigns, etc.

>>50576722
Yeah, then they retconned it completely.

>>50576776
Mixed into paint, not used AS paint. She was using them to improve the colours.

Slaanesh is a hell of a drug.

>>50576783
That's why they are now officially a dying chapter. More drama would only fuel their chapters popularity (and sales) and the plot would never progress far enough that they move from "dying" to "dead"

>>50576617
How well did that whole "Inquisition gonna slap some yiffs" work out in the aftermath of Armageddon?

>>50576783
>I'm sure there's an Inquisitor or two that would love to go fuck 'em up.
This is what stood out to me when I read it. Fenris is non-compliant to the Imperial cult, has in built genetic flaws resulting in sudden wolfery and the Inquisition have the perfect excuse to go all out because of demon invasion. Theres bound to be a bit of a fuck you coming there way from them.

>>50576811
>comparing SW at full strength to a chapter with almost no fleet, about less than half strength and no way to recoup losses.

>>50576811
Wolves had their fleet, full numbers and orbital deffences. Now they don't.

>>50576811
Exactly. But this time Logan a-oked it then fucked off letting them come and go as they please?

>>50576805
That didn't even make sense in universe or outside of it.

Nor it was needed to be an entire chapter about it

>>50576783
>>50576737
Theres also friends to consider.
Lot of the more independent first founding chapters have a very "first they came for the communists" wiew.

>>50576693
Yeah, and DA are treated suspiciously because they got a secret coven of chapter elite working with DA successors. Meanwhile Ultramarines run their own little mini-empire and their chapter master has the loyalty of several successor chapters around the Ultramar area.

The gummy bears aren't divided evenly, anon, we just have to deal with it.

>>50576828
Slaanesh was corrupting her mind, she was seeing shit.

It was basically a chaos ritual.

>>50576830
That's an interesting angle I hadn't considered and it could make for some more interesting stuff in the future now that they're actually moving the plot along. It would be interesting to see which first founding chapter(s) would come to the aid of the SW if they looked outgunned. Maybe Salamanders? Most of the other first founding chapters are way too busy... other than Iron Hands, but they haven't really given a fuck about anyone but themselves until Kardan Stronos came along, and so far all he's really done is make them remember to have emotions again so that they don't get possessed by Slaanesh (as bizarre as that sounds).

>>50576820
>>50576822
>>50576826
Russ appears, knots the Inquisition, and everything resets.

>>50576876
How is Russ going to stop the rampant mutation then?

>Rubric of Russ when

>>50576805
it's fucked up that modern art gets it's own chaos god

>>50576830
>Theres also friends to consider.
Do the wolves have any friends left?

I mean I agree with this
>first they came for the communists" view.
but still. The DA just exterminatus'd one off there worlds so I'm sure they're gonna argue its justified.

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>>50576874
In the 30k alliance chart Fists, Sallies and Raven Guard are Sworn Brothers with Wolves.

>>50576905
What are Ravens up to now? Scars pulled back to Chogoris after that whole debacle with the Tau, but I don't remember where the Ravens went.

>>50576779
But the text says that Fenris is recovering but a little tainted..

>>50576882
Same way Salamanders, Blood Angels, Black Dragoons, etc.

I don't remember Wulfen mutation being a massive problem to the chapter before, so why is it now?

>>50576882

>Russ returns
>Brings with him ancient knowledge of a Runic spell capable of halting the mutation
>Leads a desperate mission to return to Fenris to enact the ritual
>Fight through daemons and Inquisitors to reach the ritual site
>Finally, the Ritual of the Wolftime is cast
>Every Space Wolf is instantly transformed into a wolf

>>50576925
Waarhammer 40K: Age of Yiff

>>50576922
Because everyone on Fenris got exposed to Tzeentch magic and that made them mutate, and even if it didn't make them mutate right away, their offspring might, or they might when they become adults. Or maybe their offspring. Making them completely useless for making into Space Marines.

It's all in WoM.

>>50576925
>Every Space Wolf is instantly transformed into a Fenrisian Lupine Werewolf wolf.
FTFY

>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light." - The Emperor

B T F O

>>50576874
Salananders, Blood angels too as they are loyal and not too keen on the inquisition looking closely at marines practices.

Raven guard can go either way as they have their own freaks to hide but also dont have the numbers to afford unnessceary conflict.

And once bangles get going so does second founding.

So since Night Lords didn't fall chaos (as a whole) and instead kinda just fucked off, would it be better to different terminators instead of the mutated chaos terminators?

>>50576874
Salamanders are recovering from a Civil War on Nocturne currently.

>>50576967
They still hang around Chaos so do get changed.

>>50576952
Fuck off Carnac.

So to ask bluntly
How fucked are the wolves

>>50576979

Since when?

>>50576948
Until I see Codex: Space Wolves removed or the fluff in it changed to reflect how the SW are fucked, it won't change a thing. I've seen GW do this "shit's fucked, yo!" crap so many time over the decades that I don't care until it's permanently in the rulebook/codexes.

>>50576989
>So it was that the Space Wolves departed for the Cadian Gate, elements of every Great Company taking to the Sea of Stars once more to bolster the war effort against the forces of Abaddon the Despoiler. Fenris was left under garrison, but its defenders were few in number, for between the Wulfen’s Curse and the invasion of the Crimson King the Chapter had been reduced to a fraction of its former strength. Still, the Great Wolf’s conviction was infectious. They would meet the threat of Chaos head-on, and if they successfully hunted Magnus unto death, their sagas would be sung from one end of the galaxy to the other.

They survived.

>>50576997
The campaign books are as canon as codexes are.

>>50576905
>that picture
bullshit. we know why, ravens and other carrion birds follow wolves because when the wolves are done the birds get to pick the bones.

>>50576989
They're the Space Wolves, they'll be entirely fine. Every Imperial organisation that has qualms about what happened on Fenris will either have them quietly forgotten, or fail to bring any serious power to bear against the Yiffs and give up the moment one of their [high ranking officers] is killed by Logan.

>>50576988
>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- Aaron Dembski-Bowden

Been telling you for years.

>>50577011
Read the thread Logan bitched out Anon.

>>50576421
But the Wolves didn't suffer as much as TS did at Prospero.

TS lost Prospero, completely, it was leveled and they were forced to flee or die.

By comparison the Wolves and Fenris took a beating but its made very clear the planet is fine now, its populace isn't gone and that the Wolves beat off the attack and weren't forced to flee like the TS were.

So that isn't check.

Also the SW's aren't doomed. The Grey Knights themselves have okayed the Wulfen Mutation so there's no harm in it anymore, apparently some Mutants are just okay to the Imperium and Wulfen are among them.

>>50577005
No, only codexes are canon. The rest are supplementary expanded universe.

>>50577022
>GW produced material isn't canon
lol

>>50577001
>letting the guy that wields a daemon weapon, harbours mutants, and has attacked other Imperial forces numerous times join the most important fight against Chaos
Gee, that sounds like a swell plan.

>>50576456
Why can you just pain pink horros blue?

man i miss the old horrors

>>50576522
It even says there Magnus only gave the Wolves a 'taste' not even full vengeance.

Look Magnus did well for a non-Imperial, but the fact remains that he fell back on the old 'I couldn't beat the Marines but I stole something so lol I didn't totally lose' tactic GW has been running Chaos on for years.

>>50576979
They and Alpha legion has the most stable geneseed of all traitors.

That said they are old, have substandard apothecary acess, no fresh geneseed or stockpiles to rely on, and some among them do fall, raptors and warp talons are mainly NL stock and are usually mutated.

Chaos is as much a taint of soul as body, exposure to the warp the the fastest but not the only mutating effect.

>>50577020
Fenris. Is. Dead.
GKs may have OKayed wolfen, but they're still on board with Inquisition with wiping out fenrisians due to "daemonic exposure". No fenrisians = no recruitment. SWs are doomed the same way Wolf Brothers were before them, and we all know hos Wolf Brothers had ended.

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>>50577049
YOU'RE ONLY LIMITED BY YOUR IMAGINATION. WOO WOO.

>>50577050
See
>>50576522
>>50576453
Before butting in mate.

>>50577005
Yeah, but if they have no bearing on the setting and next Codex: Space Wolves continues like nothing happened, what difference does it make? It's like >>50576952 crap. Or the 5e rulebook bit about the Golden Throne failing. Hell, let Abaddon win the 13th Black Crusade for all I care, it's all going to happen outside of the setting anyway, so it will not change a damn thing.

>>50577048
Calgar?

>>50576044
Fair and balanced. Go for it.

>>50577048
They elected him as grand Marshall of all the Imperial forces there, He is really popular.

>>50577057
Where could I buy those drugs?

>>50576621
I can already see it. Magnus and the Tsons combined can't beat the Space Wolves but are going to curb-stomp the Eldar and get the whole Black Library cause Eldar can never win in Fluff. Great.

>>50576828
>he hasent seen thge world of post-modernism
forget slaness, Art is a hellva drug

>>50577008
Questions was more why wolves specifically and not all predators.

>>50577080
I really wish people would just read the book instead of posting.

>>50576656
The Grey Knights are en route, a tech priest with knowledge to contain the problem survived, and its explicitly stated it isn't completed yet.

I'm sorry anon but it clealry hasn't succeeded yet and its probably not going too.

>>50577057
Thats....thats fucking beutiful! does the artist do a guide or someting?!

>>50576776
>about rape

The only talk of rape I've ever seen is that Age of Sigmar book where a Slaaneshi Lord basically heals himself by raping sex slaves. He's on a goal to capture the female vampire to make her a sex slave. Shame they made her heterosexual in AoS... I preferred lesbian Nefereta.

I also heard there are 'rape camps' on Mars, but I've never seen anybody provide proof of this.

Oh and Lorgar says "YOU RAPED MY WORLD" to the Emperor or somebody I forget in The First Heretic.

>>50575868
Mechanicum in the HH series. Only about 2 chapters in and its aight

>>50577052

Hrm. I suppose that makes sense.

I might actually end up with 3 different model of terminators in this list:

Night Lords Crusade 1249pts

Lord of the Legion
Daemon Prince of Nurgle
Wings, Talons of Night Terror, Combat Familiar

Raptor Talon
Lord w/ Claws, Viox, and Aura
Raptors w/ Melta and Combi Melta
Raptors w/ Melta and Combi Melta
Raptors w/ Flamers and LC x2

Terminator Annihilation Force
Sorcerer with Force axe, ML3, and Combi plas
Terminators x3 w/combi plas x2 and LCx2
Terminators x3 w/ Combi plas
Terminators x3 w/ Combi plas

>>50577080
You'll have toi make do with being an OP fucking mess on the table top
poor you

>>50577106
Well there is C.S.Sickfuck's Iron Warrior fapfic.

>>50576779
Fenris isn't depopulated or a wasteland (well more of a wasteland). Read the book. Wolves can still recruit and the planet is literally healing. Space Wolves Gods, which are real, can literally undo Chaos.

>>50577111
they build a cheap non-gold golden throne.

>>50577106
Fulgrim, that book a rollercoaster of cringe.

Haven't read anything else after Mechanicus

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>>50577102
I believe, but don't quote me on it, that this woman did them.

http://louisesugdenart.tumblr.com/

So you might be able to ask.

>>50576168
>dominated threads for a solid 6 days
are you sad that your maymay died?

>>50577123
Im just gonna post interesting lore.

>So profound and powerful were the energies of change that roiled across the planet that those mortals touched directly by Tzeentch’s fires underwent terrible transformations. Gangling mutations erupted from bronzed and weather-beaten flesh, eyes bulged from armpits and backs, and crests of feathers and quills ran down shaven scalps and shoulders. Some lost their cohesion of form altogether, reshaped into horrible spawn-things that defied description and damaged the sanity of all who witnessed their transformation. Those born under the unnatural skies were monstrous. Even those who seemed clean of limb, when given the birth-axe, not only grasped the weapon – as was only right and favoured – but used it to hack away at their shocked parents’ hands. Who knows how many young Fenrisian warriors who appeared whole and sound would grow with a hidden seed of change planted inside them that would one day bear shocking fruit.
>The Fenrisian tribes had been cursed. It was a calculated and deliberate bane sent upon them by Magnus the Red, for his Legion had been riddled by the flesh-change long ago; in part that was the very reason they had sought to master the arts that saw them persecuted. The rampant mutation did not go unnoticed by the agents of the Ordo Hereticus still monitoring the Fenris System for traces of Chaos taint. In the darkness of secret psykana sanctums, astropathic missives were sent screaming out across thevoid.

I'm guessing this is why the Ordo Hereticus is there culling people after the invasion

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>>50576820
No fleet...but they leave in their fleet for the Eye of Terror. They clearly still have a fleet, and enough of one to contribute to the battle at Cadia I'm sure.

>>50577129
I read Fulgrim ages ago and don't recall that
The semen painting, yes, but not rape.

>>50577138
Nope, they have a few ships enough to transport most of the remaining Wolves, that's it.

>>50577136
What is out this week? Imperial Agents and those?

Is the new Canoness a in-store preorder only?

>>50577136
That bitch on the left is mine.

>>50577152
No, you can get it online too.

>>50577136
Exactly the priests I wanted for my IG.

>>50577133
It died the moment it's creator stopped spamming it at every opportunity.

>>50577132
>http://louisesugdenart.tumblr.com/
>even lives in the same contry as me
well shit

>>50577011
This is pretty much what will happen, yes

>>50577152
The announcement didn't say it was In-Store only.

On an unrelated note. While I doubt we're getting the rules for Inquisitor Valeria back, I will be needing a radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Any suggestions on what to start with? I have Solomon Lok but I was hoping to convert something more original.

>>50577056
No it isn't. The book makes very clear Fenris and its population are not dead. Read the book.

>>50577147
Well, that's a terrble decision.
Marines are spread so thinly around the fleet for a reason and cramming entire chapter into few ships is just acking for a disaster.

>>50577159
Neat. Thanks.

>>50577172
I was going to get some of the Raging Heroes proxies, but they're female. I also personally like the Inquisitor Rex model, but that's Hereticus (or is it Malleus? I forget).

I suspect we'll be getting new Inquisitor models at some point.

>>50577062
None of that changes that Magnus has not at all dealt to the SW's what they dealt to the TS. That's just a fact.

>>50577094
Um, they're probably right. Eldar always job in fluff and while GW won't let yiffs lose to Magnus they defs won't mind Eldar losing to Magnus.

>>50577167
Yeah, she's pretty cool. Nice painter as well. I hope that helps, she might have a guide somewhere there, I never went deep enough.

>>50577189
Rex is Malleus I think. Karazamov is the Hereticus one.

>>50577134
None of that says the Planet is dead and the population all dead. In fact the book makes clear their are still Fenrisians on Fenris and that the taint of Chaos has been bled out.

No-one's denying there were losses, but in 40k 'heavy losses' is a meaningless concept which never affects the story. Come the next book about SW's they'll be a major fighting force with enough manpower to still contibrute as much as every other major chapter and this is never going to change.

>>50577147
Considering there will be fluff about them at Cadia I highly doubt that. GW isn't going to have SW's appear in the fluff if they can't majorly contribute in all spheres of battle.

Also does it say they only have transporrts? I thought it just said they departed in their fleet?

>>50577218
>that the taint of Chaos has been bled out.


It says the exact opposite of that.

What the hell is the Carnac meme? Did I miss something idiotic since 5th?

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>>50577215
Yeah. I had wanted to convert a Watch Master with the Storm Shield Relic using Rex's shield.

This was the model I was talking about from Raging Heroes.

Are the Start Collecting! sprues the regular ones with all weapon options available in the separate sets or will I be stuck with only one loadout for the big model in them?

>>50577224
What's left of it, which is only enough to take the wolves to Cadia. Magnus literally smashed the fuck out of the rest of them.

>>50577236
It's literally everything in the regular kits in a box, only cheaper.

>>50577227
Newfag get out, reeee!

Resident shitposter who is an ex-tripfag who posts fluff combined with copious amounts of headcanon to trigger people and get (You)'s. He used to spam threads daily until people filtered him, so he took off his trip and people gave him the name 'Carnac' based on the fact the shit he kept spamming was based on a book with a planet called Carnac in it.

tl;dr shitposter who exists for (You)'s pissed off /tg/ with his shitposting and now people call everybody Carnac if they say bait worthy shit.

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>>50577231
I quite like this one.

>>50577231
I'm lost regarding their kickstarter and what is on sale. Since the fuckers are impossible to contact.

Even the Russian guy that make alternative SoB is easier to contact

>>50577250
>>50577227
Carnac stop self advertising

>>50577269(You)
Nice try Carnac

>>50577252
Yeah.

>>50577255
They have Facebook accounts and a main website with a Instant Messaging service.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Their latest kickstarter (Proxy Sisters of Sigmar, Dark Elves, Slaaneshi Daemons, SoB and Dark Elves) has finished to the best of my knowledge. I got my stuff. At least, I think I did.

Anyway, as of now, they're finishing their orders for the Kickstarter backers. My guess is when that's done they'll move onto putting them on their website.

facebook /RagingHeroes/

There is their facebook page if you want to ask.

I imagine that someone here has done this before.
I'm going to be printing and laminating the roster sheets for Kill Team(HoR).
What, in your experience, is best for writing on the sheets and erasing afterwards?

>>50576495
I'm reading WoM right now.

>"Once, this greatest of magi poured every iota of his being into the furtherance of the Emperor’s goals. Now he seeks the total destruction of the Imperium."

Copy and pasted out the ePub.

>>50577322
GW at it's finest - ignoring swathes of the previously estrblished fluff to make just one colourful phrase.

>>50577206
will take a look around, cheers

>>50577314
If it's laminated then use a whiteboard marker.

What is a Tau Enforcer Battlesuit? I can't find it in the codex.

>>50577341
Thats almost always been the fluff Anon. Just because it doesn't match your headcanon doesn't make it bad.

>>50577355
They will cleanly erase and not smudge?

>>50577178
You read the book, then you should know that Magnus laid a curse on the entire population of Fenris making them unusable for SW recruitment unless they want their army to suddenly become birdmen.

>>50577369
Yeah, probably. Definitely if you use a damp rag or something to clean it, they're designed to clean off non-porous surfaces like that.

>>50577369
if you really get desprate, you cna use 100% ethanol. dont know how easy it is for people outside my feild to get, i have never looked, but that shit is effective

>>50577361
It's the slightly larger crisis suit that commanders wear.

>>50577361
It's just a Crisis Commander suit.

>>50577388
>>50577392
Alright then, thanks anons. I just got sick of writing out character sheets, y'know?

>>50577393
>>50577399
Fair enough. The name made me think it was something like a 2+ save suit.

>>50577269 (You)(You)
Neat attempt Carnac.

>>50577407
Crunch-wise the only diffeence is that it have 4 slots for wargear while normal crisisses only have 3.

>>50577425
>(You)
Just. Stop.

>>50577439 (you)(you)(you)
Fuck off, Carnac.

>>50577430
With a name like "Enforcer" you would expect to get a brick shithouse attached to a jetpack.

>>50575834
Armywide Stubborn, reprice super fragile units appropriately, allow boyz ccw upgrades like burnas, PKs and big choppas (which should be made rending).

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>>50577218
It's literally the exact opposite you mong.

Fenrisians are being born corrupted by Chaos and there are hordes of chaos tainted tribesmen, or full blown spawn roving the surface of the planet.

Worlds are turbo-fucked for FAR less than this, and the Woofs have already pulled enough shit for the Inquisition to be less wary of their first Founding status.

And they can justify purging civilians far easier than purging Astartes, especially with the reasoning of "What if some of the corrupted make it into the ranks of the Space Wolves, you don't WANT Chaos in your chapter do you?""

>>50577453
Id cut a tacsquad and take devastators with lascannons or something instead
Missile launchers are pretty garbage anti-tank.

You dropped like $400 because someone at GW told you? Kek, have a (you)

>>50577461
Some of them are tainted.

The aftermath says that the World Spirit is expunging the taint and healing itself. Other worlds don't have World Spirits.

>>50577444
In the current monstrous creature edition they seem pretty quaint, but tau commanders honestly aren't pushovers.

>>50577461
>Born corruped by chaos
Citation needed before anything else is read.

>>50577472

Can't drop any of the 3 tac squads, Battle Demi-Company needs 3 squads.

>>50577453
Drop the missiles in favour of Plasma or Melta. Better yet, lose a Tac and drop in Devestators

>>50577483
Doesnt it need devs too?

>>50577475
For sure, I've ran through entire squads in a good turn with a Tau commander. But "Enforcer" just feels like it should bring something serious to the table.

>>50577453
Okay, drop the mixed weapons, pick one and give them only that per squad. They have no Rhinos, they're going to get killed before they get close.

2 5 man squads works better than 1 10 men Assault squad.

Your dread is going to get shot to shit right quick.

>>50577489

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What do you anons think of my fluffy 1500 list I wrote up? Posted it last night, but I fell asleep before I could see it and the thread was already dying. I'm new to 40k, and I'm in love with the fluff.

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels list

HQ
-Interrogator Chaplain, 110
+Plasma Pistol, 15
Total, 125

-Terminator Librarian, 90
+ML2, 25
+Foe Smiter, 15
Total, 130

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Extra Armor, 10
Total, 140

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 225

Dedicated Transports
-Land Raider Redeemer, 240
+Multi-Melta, 10
Total, 250

Complete Total, 1500

>>50577453
Drop the power weapons from the tactical sergeants and find some other way to spend those points, you don't need your shooty squads to be kitted out for melee.

>>50577482
It is right. fucking. there.

>So profound and powerful were the energies of change that roiled across the planet that those mortals touched directly by Tzeentch’s fires underwent terrible transformations. Gangling mutations erupted from bronzed and weather-beaten flesh, eyes bulged from armpits and backs, and crests of feathers and quills ran down shaven scalps and shoulders. Some lost their cohesion of form altogether, reshaped into horrible spawn-things that defied description and damaged the sanity of all who witnessed their transformation. Those born under the unnatural skies were monstrous. Even those who seemed clean of limb, when given the birth-axe, not only grasped the weapon – as was only right and favoured – but used it to hack away at their shocked parents’ hands. Who knows how many young Fenrisian warriors who appeared whole and sound would grow with a hidden seed of change planted inside them that would one day bear shocking fruit.

>The Fenrisian tribes had been cursed. It was a calculated and deliberate bane sent upon them by Magnus the Red, for his Legion had been riddled by the flesh-change long ago; in part that was the very reason they had sought to master the arts that saw them persecuted. The rampant mutation did not go unnoticed by the agents of the Ordo Hereticus still monitoring the Fenris System for traces of Chaos taint. In the darkness of secret psykana sanctums, astropathic missives were sent screaming out across thevoid.

>>50577506
Still going with the redeemer?

I feel bad for you anon, if I ever play someone fielding your list I'll let him count his redeemer as having a 14 model transport capacity.

>>50577482
Read the fucking reply chain.

>>50577474
The planet cleansing itself doesn't mean the people on it are suddenly fine, it just means that Fenris wont go full blown Tzeentch world.

If the world spirit is capable of full on eradicating the taint of chaos from its inhabitants, then why isn't this a bigger thing? That would be a complete gamechanger if the Imperium could just go, "Got corrupted by chaos? Turned into a spawn? Just go on a gap year to Fenris, you'll be fiiiiine"

>>50576760
>Complaining about an affected writing style that deliberately mimics Flashman.

>>50577231
how would that even stay on the fucking base.

>>50577136
Interesting. The original Imperial Assassin.

Wouldn't a culexus assasin counter magnus? What is your opinion on this?

>>50577509
t. Carnac

>>50577509
Nice try anon, I bet you just made this up.

Show me on the doll where the wolf knotted you

>>50577473
who are you talking to?

>>50577541
>If the world spirit is capable of full on eradicating the taint of chaos from its inhabitants, then why isn't this a bigger thing? That would be a complete gamechanger if the Imperium could just go, "Got corrupted by chaos? Turned into a spawn? Just go on a gap year to Fenris, you'll be fiiiiine"

Fenris belongs to Fenrisians only.

And not all the tribes are tainted. Again, the aftermath says that the Fenris people are warrior born and soon they will put this whole thing behind them and live their lives. Also its says years later people in the Fenris system are still around which means that the tribes aren't going anywhere.

>>50577576
t. Butthurt SW fan

>>50577576
>>50577571
>waaaah, furries aren't mary sues anymore and may actually have to suffer some tragedy that isn't "daddy wolf abandoned us"
It's from WoM.

>>50577528
Aw shucks anon, you're too kind. Though, now that the chaplain is out of Termi armor I'll just have the Librarian with the Deathwing Command. This way I'll have a Termi armored HQ to go with them, as well as the Librarian being plastic and the Termi chaplain being finecast. The Chaplain seems more effective in melee than the Librarian, but the Librarian seems a little more versatile with Interromancy, having access to some cool powers.

At least this way I'll save a little bit since I'll have the BaC chaplain as my power armored Chaplain.

>>50577509
>greentext check
>taking quotes out of context check
>chaos fanboy check

Is this carnac?

>>50577601
It's not out of context.

whats that Chinese site that ppl get forgeworld rip offs called?

>>50577601
It is. See >>50577595

>>50577601
the context is that Magnus came to Fenris and fucked it all up and put a curse on Fenrisians. There context is all there, anon.