Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?

Lewdness.

And the fact it's all an act to look more confident and charismatic to others when she doesn't have any real experience

>What's your character's vice?
Chronic masturbator

>>50182609
being an Eldrich Scion

oh wait thats more of a crippling disability.

>What's your character's vice?
He's a necrophile.

>What's your character's vice.

Eating and drinking (non-alcoholic), he's an Elan that has been without food for years.

Second one is stealing (and returning), but had a Warder that with Stoneplate and a Tower Shield had an armor check penalty of -2, and pumped a lot of points into Slight of Hand and Stealth. He has very good at stealing.

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>>50182609
Guys, what in your opinion is the most unique class?

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>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?

Vengeance.

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>>50182609


Violence and Gluttony.

>>50182609
>Vice
Falling asleep in the sun, and even though he tries to avoid it, the herbal menace called catnip

>>50183006

"No sir knight! That's for my Glaucoma!"

>>50182790
Magus, really. It's the only truly effective and ~working~ gish to have shown up in the entirety of D&D since githyanki were a thing.

>>50183006
>>50183016

Interestingly enough, Catnip has a soothing effect on humans when brewed as tea and/or smoked.

>>50183036
Magus is hamstringed by a shitty spell list tho

>>50182790
Kineticst overall

Honorable mention goes to Incanter, show me a more dippable front loaded class..

>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?
Depends on the character. My current one is into powerful weaponry.

My favorite one is collecting sexual conquests of a more bizzare and monstrous nature. So far her strangest has been a female drider. She's hoping for an even bigger male dragon than the last one, but it's unlikely at this point.

>>50183063
Not really - it does the job its intended to do, which is channel spells through weapons and hit areas of effect hard, and give some minor utility (flight, detections, intel). Remember, gish were originally githyanki warrior-mages, so anything utilitarian was covered by other classes in their troops. If you needed utility spells, you were already fucking up the raid.

>>50183089
Its more that they rely way too hard on shocking grasp. In many ways it might as well be their only spell.

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>>50182661
>>50182699
>>50182739
>>50183074

3lewd5me

>>50182609

>What's your character's vice?

He's a homewrecker; He sleeps with married women and the unmarried daughters of said women with flagrant disregard for their honor or social standing.

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>>50182806

That's standard with ALL oni my boy. What's her personal vice?

>>50183071
A little *too* dippable, in my opinion. One level can get you 3 bonus talents, +1 caster level to 1 sphere, and the minor power from two different cleric domains. Oh, and you can all knowledge [all] to your class skill list.

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>>50183226

Cheap cliche ridden copper store romance novels with flip out illustrations.

>tfw dawn of the last day for WotR
>tfw no selections
>tfw will never protect a Wilder's smile

>>50183328
>tfw your wilder's smile will never be protected

It hurts but i'll get over it

>>50183319

Wait, isn't oni-girl's younger sister the one *writing* those cheap copper romances?

I'm building a two handed wolf style user, any tips?What feats can I take to max my AOO damage (besides PA)

>>50183337

If she is, she's either really happy, or mortified at the possibility of her sister discovering that she writes Oni girl's "lewds".

>>50183199
>>50183319
>>50183337
>>50183361


see

>>50183105

What would be cuter, zenko kitsune or archon blooded aasimar for PsyArm/PsyWar gestalt? He'll be a trap either way.

>>50183333
Honestly, I think you have spared yourself some disappointment because the base wilder is fairly underwhelming. Tried it once and that was what happened to me.

>>50183333

All those characters lost, like tears in the rain.

>>50183199

>NTRing the DM

This is a level of magical realm I didn't think possible

>>50183393

What's lewd about awkward young women reading cheap dime-store romance novels possibly written by their younger sister?

>>50183036
Debatable.

Depends on your definition of gish and willingness to accept 4e as D&D.

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>>50182609

Here's an important question i have for you folks.

For Oni-Spawn; Sacred Fist of Irori, Onryou Kaijistu, Master of the Many Styles of the Sacred Mountain.

Would it be worth it to get a permanent Enlarge person spell cast on her?

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>>50183036
The magus should have been far more "build your own", and the fact that medium and heavy armor require you to hit 7/13 to use just feels like a slap in the face. Not even getting into how garbage your options are for spells.

>Want feature
>Games likely to die before you get it
>Don't want feature
>Not allowed to trade it out, few archetypes that do trade it are worthwhile

>>50183694

She's big enough as it is, anon. If she gets Enlarge person cast on her than only centaurs or giants will want her.

>>50183730
Enlarge Person doesn't work on Outsiders anyways.

>>50183772

Oh... well that sucks.

>>50183776
>>50183772

It *does* if you take Pass for Human, though.

>>50183799

I'll probably just wait untill Wish is available to me.

>>50183776
You can try to use psionics and Expansion!

As an oracle that needs the CHA to AC bonus do I go 'lore' or 'lunar'?
I'm not super eager to risk slowing down a combat with the lunar animal companion even if I have the macro's set up and all the tricks written down.
Lore seems nice and it gives me a lot of bonuses to booksmarts, and lets me keep some fun emergency spells in my back pocket.

>>50183892
>As an oracle that needs the CHA to AC bonus do I go 'lore' or 'lunar'?

What's the party make-up? Lore lets you become the best skillmonkey in the land.

>>50183089
That doesn't mean that's what they are now.
And the shocking grasp issue brought up by >>50183095 is on point.
I ran into the same issue with duskblades in 3.5, and worse, it was a game where later on, everything was resisting lightning damage. I thought I would cry after the 7th different enemy had resist 10+ lightning.

>>50183914
That was probably your DM actively doing that.

>>50183907
Not sure yet. I wouldn't want to step on peoples toes by taking to many skills though.

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Cutebold

>>50183922
the problem being that as a class Magus has way too much of a reliance on lightning damage via shocking grasp.

This could probably be solved via an arcana that trades points from the pool for a temporary element change tho

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Is the Brutal Slayer any good? I really want to play an action-movie style hit-man which is an easy way to say, "kill as many fuckers between you and your contract."

>>50183776
>>50183772
>>50183694

Commission a Wizard to research a new spell, Enlarge Monster, Its probably either Level 2 or 3.

Pay the guy about 4000 for research labor, then another 3000 for a permanent cast on you.

>>50183942
Elemental Spell is already a thing.

>>50183947
How is that any different from usual PC behavior?

>>50183942
>Solved via arcana that trades points from the pool

Fucking NO, that's an awful idea. It could be solved by Elemental Spell not being +1 for no good reason, or by there being actual variety in the spell list.

>>50183968

I might be going solo for most of the fights, and I don't want to look like a heavily-armored monstrosity while doing so.

This guy's gotta look professional, you know?

>>50183960
usually doesn't have space on a magus going MAXIMIZED EMPOWERED INTENSIFIED SHOCKING GRASP

but yes, elemental spell is a thing, its also annoying because its not worth it and you have to take it multiple times for more than one element.

>>50183978
Glamer.

>>50183955
>Enlarge Monster, Its probably either Level 2 or 3.
Animal growth is 5th level...

>>50184008

For what it does, and how much it costs. Animal growth should be lower i think... But then again, T-rexes are also animals.

Slap on a 25-100 gold material component and think we're good for enlarge monster

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>>50184001

How could I forget about that enchantment.

>>50183978
>Professional
>Not heavily armored

Chooseth one, knave.

>>50183985
Suddenly I wonder. If the 1pp Magus could take a feat or second Arcana that made it that, so long as he had a point in his Arcane Pool, he could make a pool strike for free, would that make it actually a good ability? With the ability to spend a pool point as a free action when using it to double the damage.

>>50184098
Maybe? it would make them less nova-reliant

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>>50184056

I just rewatched John Wick so I'm in a bit of that funk, anon.

>dm gave the party 20 point buy
>gave me 15 point buy
why tho

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>>50184115
Honestly, it sounds like a solid plan IMO. Dunno if any GMs would actually go for it. If I have to be honest, the more I look at Pool Strike, the more it looks like it should have just been a base part of the Arcane Pool itself, though then then probably would have had to get lower damage scaling.
I'll probably try pitching the followup arcana to my GM, should I ever get to try playing a magus. Freeing myself from the shackles of shocking grasp memery sounds pretty legit.

>>50184274
he can smell your faggotry.

>>50184274
what's the difference between you and your partymates?

>>50184274
Either he thinks you're going to break the game, or he hates your guts.

Well, my health issues may be improving enough that I can finish up the last few archetypes. I apologize to everyone who was waiting on my play test There weren't many of you, but I am extremely sorry to those that there were. I have been a bad homebrewer and generally a bad guy when it came to informing you all as to the state of the playtest. My illness did not keep me from making that minimum effort of being transparent, it was my own fault that it occurred.

So, hopefully next week we shall return and the playtest shall begin, and the archetypes (hopefully) will be done by the end of the week. I know I've said this before, but this time I hope I mean it!

>tfw DM is oddly pushy about a male character hanging out with mine
>tfw I just learned in one of the most awkward Skype conversations of my life that he thought, since my guy turned down a potential romantic interest, he must be gay

It's too early to drink the rest of this Kraken.

>>50184364
>not taking said man to pound-town

Its not gay unless balls touch you prancing la-la fancyman

>>50184379

Hey hey, I didn't say I was opposed to it, just kinda salty since I never saw this character as being gay.

>>50184364
Your character isn't gay? I remember last time I played a homosexual It was a hobgoblin who the party never found out was gay because there were no goblinoids around and he wasn't attracted to humans/elves/orcs/etc.

>>50184312
I'm an experenced player and GM and they are bunch of noo...

oh.

>>50183922
No, the area we were in (it was a FR game) had creatures with resistance natively, right out of the MM.
Stop being so quick to think every DM is a shitter, anon, because >>50183973
and >>50183985 are both correct.
>>50184274
Time to talk to the DM, anon, because that isn't cool.
>>50184364
It's NEVER too early for kraken, anon.
>>50184379
>fucks up the quote
>prancing la-la homoman
>no boy molesting, tho

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>>50183694
>that pic
I just realized that would be a creative use to Immovable Rods.

What other creative ways are there to use magic items and spells for making Gains?

>>50184274
You were too strong. You know what you can do though? Be an absolute monster.

What class are you? I'll minmax dat point buy

>>50184458
warpriest of gorum

>>50184420
then your dm is a faggot, you can help them doing betterwithout getting cocky, first level character have not enough power to make a difference

>>50184463
>Race: Archon-Blooded Aasimar
>Racial Traits:Immortal Spark
>Base stats 16/12/12/9/13/9
>With racial: 16/12/14/9/15/9
>With aging: 15/11/13/10/16/10
>With age resistance: 16/12/14/10/16/10

Easy peasy.

>>50184274
So tell the dm to fuck himself then put together a 10 point buy SAD caster and break the game.

>>50182609
>what's your character's vice?
autism
rampant debilitating autism

>>50184504
>SAD caster
what is a SAD caster? I'm not an english speaker, we talk about roleplay in our own language
I'm not >>50184274

>>50184521
Single Attribute Dependent.
Aka a spell caster that only needs one stat to fuck the world.

>>50184507
A-anon, I don't think that is what vice means.

>>50184123
Good taste Anon.

>>50184527
You can still play on 15PB as either a aasimar or a hobgoblin, aasimar is better however.

>>50184444
Rings of Sustenance. Perfect nutrition at all times.

>>50184502
damn. Nice.

>>50184123

Oh, John Wick's easy.

Assuming firearms are no bueno and PoW is allowed, he'd be a Scarlet Throne focused Warlord prestiging into Landsknecht with all the proper Style feats.

>>50184364
Oh THAT had to be a joy for the rest of us to read.

Personally, I kinda just not think about what my character's into unless there was a specific flaw/preference rolled up (whether that's "obsesses over dryads" or simply "is an extremely snobby fop and won't settle for anything that doesn't have princess in its name at least three times").

Inevitably, the campaign ends far before anything would ever come up anyways, *OR* something just clicks when you see it, after multiple sessions, and you just go "I'm gonna run with this"

Most recently:
>Huh. I wonder if I could enchant *that* dragonskin the same way I did the armor few weeks back
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY WERE YOU IN THE BATHS WITHOUT THE LIGHT ON?!?
>eep.

>*It's at that moment the player realizes his character was staring at the dragon disciple's "natural armor" with great interest and decides eh, fuck it, why not

>>50184556
The ten point buy is more to make a statement of you don't need to gimp me if I want to break the game I can, so let's put everyone on equal footing.

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what are the best items for a two weapon unchained rogue?
he is an elf, not a drow, I didn't find an art with short hair of a normal elf

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>>50184379

>>50184583
how would you build him with nonpow?

>>50184604
I think Slayer would do well. High martial capability, good skills. Overall pretty good hitman esque class.

>>50184502
nononoNONONO!
HUMAN ONLY
Human fcb with the warpreist give syou 3 fewer feats than the fighter OVER 20 levels

Stay human.

>>50184604

Slayer, easily.

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>>50184541
>a practice, behavior or habit considered immoral, sinful, criminal, rude, taboo, depraved, or degrading in the associated society. In more minor usage, vice can refer to a fault, a negative character trait, a defect, an infirmity, or a bad or unhealthy habit (such as an addiction to smoking). Vices are usually associated with a transgression in a person's character or temperament rather than their morality.

When autism talks, it ranges from rude to degrading
It can easily qualify as a fault, negative character trait, defect or some might argue an infirmity And if you're sperging the fuck out, that's certainly a transgression in the person's character or temperament.

>>50184583

Why not ZweiSent? Warlord's Charisma suits his immense force of presence, but Zwei really handles his zone of nope and sense of being untouchable.

>>50184619
Nigga, just take the ART that makes you have the human subtype. Boom, you can take the human FCB.

>>50184619
Is true fact, but you'll be a lot weaker at lower levels. I would plan out the build to see if those three feats ae really necessary.

>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?
He is a paladin, he has no vice.
What he is getting is Pride, verging to arrogance.
He is the hottest shit around, save for the Paladin King of this realm, and he knows it, and one day, he will surpass even him.
Even the heavens have acknowledged his all knowing sense of justice, mercy, compassion, and strength at arms, elevating him to the status of a living angel, whilst his lord and god, recognizing his peerless devotion, have transfigured his body into the His image.
He has trained a small army of fucking ORCS to follow justice in his footsteps, their leader is his closest ally and confidant, initiated into the secret rites of his family's way of war.
He has defeated giants, banshees, demons, undead horrors and their necromancer creators in single combat, often in a single blow.
Who better than he to decide the guilty?
Who better to mete out justice to the deserving?
Who better to be the bringer of peace to a troubled land?
None purer!
>my DM is going to hate me

>>50184652
>>50184655
Almost forgot about that, true.

>>50184657

He sounds like a chronic masturbator, anon.

>>50184657
Perfect is the enemy of good. He's going to end up murdering everyone who don't meet his excessively high standards..

>>50184666
>>50184652
you guys seem like you know your stuff:

It seems that due to the scaling damage dice thing, I should grab a scimitar or a cutlass for my weapon because of the ability to two-or-one hand it and the crit range.

Is the weapon specialization feat route good to take? WHat about vital strike and greater weapon of the chosen?

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>>50184680
anon doesn't know what you're talking about anon

>>50184694
In my opinion? No. You'll be better served if you want damage going with Eldritch Heritage Orc. it's three feats for +6 str. With a two handed weapon that's +4 damage and +3 to hit. Better than full weapon focus/specalization with one less feat. Plus it gives you other things.

This is an example. Things like item mastery, teleportation tactician, weapon mastery, or style feats. Give yourself something gives you options rather than just big numbies. If you want big numbies there are better ways. Unless you have free space I'd say no.

>>50184680
Not yet, my friend, not yet.
>>50184687
Yes, he is.
Hell, he has had eyes on the party's wizard for a long time now, a very powerful mage with no moral compass.
What he doesn't know is that the dispel the party paladin hit him with was simply to test his defenses so that he could better prepare to kill him.
I have been researching alchemical means of nullifying his magic just long enough to remove his head from his shoulders, IF NEED BE.
There is also that entire orc city to the north that I, and my orc companions, will turn to TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND GOODLINESS, even if we have to kill every single one of them to do so.

>>50184708
+2 str for three feats, then +2 more at level 15 and +2 more at 19. By then you can just buy a manual of gainfull exercise.

Not worth it until the game is already over.

>>50184792
Eh, it really comes down to whether you have more money or more feats to burn. If you'd rather splurge on that +5 sword of kickass, the feat route can be a better choice. Plus, the manuals only go up to +5, where orcish heritage gives you +6

>>50184792
That 125k can be better spent than those three feats a lot of the time. Plus it goes to +6 rather than +5 at max.

I get what you're saying but don't think weapon focus/weapon specialization is worth.

>>50184902
The problem with that is the warpreist gets magic vestments and magic weapon greater. If anyone is able to save cash on weapons or equipment it's a warpriest/cleric

>>50184957
Yea it's really a toss-up, but you can get them a lot earlier. That extra damage and attack is more usefull at level 7 than level 15.

I think that he should think about those style feats though, some of them are really good.

>>50184998
I would value item mastery and weapon mastery as well.

>>50184998
Using magic vestment/weapon slows you down as you need to do it before combat starts. Being caught in a surprise round fucks you.

>>50183694
>>50183730
>>50183772
>>50183776

I HAVE A SOLUTION!! its not the best but its there!

Righteous Might Divine spell. you gotta wait till level 13 to cast it and its rounds per level; but it not only does it cause you to Get Large, but adds special defenses like DR 5/ Evil - good (depending on what you channel) and +2 AC.

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Hey /pfg/, I wanna play Sister Friede. 8th level. All core material allowed, all Dreamscarred stuff allowed, others allowed on a case by case basis. Wat do

>Light-to-medium armored scythe-wielding maniac with frost and 'ash' magic for those unfamiliar
>Highly agile preferential, not a must

As for my character's vice... well, for Definitely-not-Friede I can't really put a finger on it, but as forever-DM the primary villain in my current campaign is partial to women that remind him of his deceased Goddess.

>>50185043
Those spells last hours/level dude. You use them like mage armor.

>>50185076
Fun spell. Warpreist gets it as a swift action self-cast.

>>50185082
harbinger with elemental flux refluffed fire to ash.

>>50185085
>Those spells last hours/level dude. You use them like mage armor.
Nah i don't trust it.

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>>50185085
>>50185076

Now i just need a cloud to ride on, and we solid.

>tfw i've been up all night watching klk

>now trying to make ryuko in a gestalt build as faithfully as possible

how much of a weeb am i

>>50184792
>>50184902
>>50184957
>>50184998
>>50185023
You guys are incredibly helpfull. THANK YOU!

I was looking at the styles and mobile bulwark seems to use tower shields. Tower shields seem like a bit of a trap option, but there is a wizard in the party who is fond of wall of stone. Could this be a fun/cool combo or will it just not work?

Item mastery is crazy. I'm checking all of them out right now.

>>50185131
tower shields are a trap

>>50185138
well yea, in general, but:

>If getting full cover costs a move action
>if the friendly wizard loves wall of stone
>if you have vital strike
>if you have sacred weapon damage scaling with a one handed weapon

Does it become a bit less of a trap?

>>50185173
no

>>50185183
: (

>>50185173
you're using a one-handed weapon
you're using vital strike
the wizard will happily just use wall of stone on his own without your help

you're basically unfortunately falling for all of the pitfalls there. Your damage will be nonexistent, and you actually provide far, far less protection than it looks like from the point of view of a level 1.

>>50185101

Thx m8

>>50185173
the Mobile Bulwark style line is only really good once you hit the third feat in the line, because at that point you negate the attack penalty for using a tower shield and can gain full cover as an immediate action

you can't actually hit someone who's behind full cover, so it can interrupt full attacks, spellcasting, that firing line of dudes that was about to wreck your shit, and it'll even block AoEs like a dragon's fire breath.

Until you have the third feat in the line, though, it's a trap.

>>50185227
>Your damage will be nonexistent, and you actually provide far, far less protection than it looks like from the point of view of a level 1.
Actually he might have something here against the right opponents. He can declare full cover as a move action/immediate action. If he fills in the gap in a wall of stone he should be immune from counter-attack while he delivers a non-shit warpriest-powered vital strike each turn. The destruction blessing and furious focus power attack both help with damage.

The problem is that it doesn't work against almost half of the monster manual.

>>50183776
>>50183772
Couldn't you just take Pass For Human? You don't have anything like a tail or cloven hooves, right?

>>50185488

I don't think i can, in good conscience, take Pass for human. >>50182806 doesnt look like it would pass, no matter how much make up you put on. (And that is actually her art, i got her in a drawthread.)

>>50185545

You could always ask a drawfriend to recolor her skin and remove the obvious Tiefling bits.

She'd still be a tall, very muscular and very chesty woman!

>>50184123
>>50184546

There are not nearly enough club shootout scenes in movies anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HSoOFdJ3s

>>50185571
Na man she looks great.

>>50185571

With all due respect. That is a stupid idea. Hell the crimson red skin, horns and black sclera is half her charm!

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>>50185593

It's not stupid if you wanted to make her Pass for Human...

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>>50185609

But i dun wanna Pass for Human, i want her to be Large size!


... Can be permanent or temporary. either works. And i dont fancy trying my luck with a deck of many things.

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>>50185643

Well well, then I guess we're at an impasse here, hmm? I think there's a Wish spell in Book 5-6 of Jade Regent, but you'd have to wait until then to become Large.

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>>50185688

I don't suppose there's a magic item that lets you count as another race for magical effects is there? I feel like there aught to be.

>>50185721
Not for magical effects. You could UMD an item of it though.

>>50185721
A quick look on the srd comes up with: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/m-p/pauldrons-juggernaut-s

I have no idea if it actually works though, since it's still technically just the enlarge person spell. It makes sense for it to actually work, but
>muh exact wording

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>>50185738
at that point why not make a magical item that increases the size of the wearer?

also, pic related.

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This thread has gotten ridiculously lewd out of nowhere and I DON'T LIKE IT.

>>50185822
Oh sush.

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>>50185822

>>50185772
>>50185770

Hrmmm....

HMMMMMM....

I is hatching idea that no sane GM would let me hatch.

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>>50185853
>I is hatching idea that no sane GM would let me hatch.

The DM has already admitted the campaign is going to be as lewd as the players want it to be, a handsome man lounging in the large oni-girl's cleavage doesn't sound out of place.

Only issue is bedroom stuff, but that's what potions of Enlarge Person are for, right?

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>>50185850
>>50185839

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This thread right now.

>>50185770
Sphere Casting Alteration allows size increases with no type bullshittery.

>>50185877
No
You just need creative solutions
Like both hands at once

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>>50185853
Like what?
A large creature with levels in Aegis to increase their size to Gargantuan, count as Colossal with Powerful Build, and then Armory of the Conqueror another four dice ups from their oversized holy earthbreaker?

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>>50185900

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>>50185877

>That last bit
>The item making her Large comes off mid-sex
>He's still Enlarged

>>50185925
internal bleeding and tissue tearing are NOT ENJOYABLE.

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>TWF /tg/ is enabling giantess fetishism
>TFW you realize it's the only magical realm we all share

>>50185916
actually me right now

>>50185925
yes please.

>>50185940

Oh hush, she's a giant even without the spell and the man would only be maybe 9-10 feet.

It'd be a tight fit, but nothing a girl like her can't handle.

>>50185925
>standing inside her, jacking off directly into her cervix
>not that that actually would feel good for her

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I know we're a containment board, but jeeze!

Guys stop. While I can make jokes about not lewd but healthy, this is how we end up getting threads purged and generals banned.

>>50186012
We didn't mean to enter the magical realm, we just kind of ended up there.

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>mfw the character concept I was ultra-hyped to make for a campaign was made almost verbatim by someone else

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP, SENPAI.

>tfw character is a rapist in his backstory
>backstory got approved the GM didn't read it I think
>PC isn't gonna tell anyone because he is ashamed but it might come out during play somehow
>wondering if the GM is gonna be as shocked as the rest of the players

>>50186023

I think the magical realm became deliberate when we started to talk about cocksleeving the oni-girl.

>>50186031

How the heck is something like that going to come up, besides an extremely awkward and probably poorly-done encounter with one of his victims?

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In attempt to swing this thread back into sane teritory.

Tell me about the last battle your character fought in?

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>>50185877
>>50185853
MY ATTEMPT AT A SOLUTION!!

Barbecue of Burgeoning

This is a Legendary Recipe contains the details of crafting a meat based meal.

It requires meat harvested from Creatures Large Size or greater, And at least one sample of meat from the Dragon Subtype. In addition it requires 5000 gold pieces in exotic ingredients

Cooking the meal is a process that takes 3 hours, and Three DC 30 Profession (Cooking) Checks. Up to 4 Assistant chefs can assist in the cooking process, either with aid another checks, or if 4 total help, a +1 circumstance bonus to the primary chef's cooking check.

The arduous process of cooking the meal inflicts 2d6 non-lethal damage on each chef.

After the meal is cooked, One creature may consume this meal, which takes a full hour of constant eating, and will at the end of their meal increase one size category, Unless they are Gargantuan. The meal must be eaten in four hours or its effects are wasted.

Subsequent attempts to consume this meal are just as delicious, but does not increase size category again. It however increase the consumers weight by half, Locks them in at a Medium Carry weight, and reduces their speed by half for ten days.

>>50186041
I don't know someone comes to avenge one of his victims?

He's trying to atone?

I think it could be done, but for your average game it's probably not worth it.

>>50186041
We was convicted and exiled from his home country and the fact he is covered in scars from the punishment.

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>>50186054
>And at least one sample of meat from the Dragon Subtype

>mfw this is doable in Jade Regent for reasons I won't mention
>mfw the situation you find that reason is perfect for making a hot, hearty meal
>mfw it also encourages aggressive snuggling in a tent

9/10 I'd recommend it.

>>50186060
The reason is I'm exiled and covered in scars. My character will endeavor to make sure no one knows. He's willing to admit he is a criminal but not much else.

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>people aggressively lewdposting in the thread
>I'm sitting here justifying taking weapon versatility on a character by saying "he was not formally trained, and the sword itself gave up trying to tell him otherwise"
>I will never totally baffle a necromancer by just beating the shit out of skeletons with a blunted side of an estoc

Now this is a bad feel.
>I'd feel like a dick if I requested GM fiat to have Bladebound/Kensai Magus work in spheres, then turned around and used the Harakami/Ceremonial Robe trick with the Somatic 2x Drawback

>>50186041
>cocksleeving the oni-girl.
Anon, size difference is my bag.
Shit, it is a founding fetish that has sprung half the other kinks I have.
I don't even care.

>>50186031
Since you keep bringing it up I'm convinced the rape is part of your magical realm. Fuck your hobgoblin.

>>50186041
Hey now, cocksleeving the oni-girl came up right at the end.

>>50186041
>>50186091
And in this instance there was only one victim.

>>50186094

*Sniff the finger anime pose*

HAHA! i knew Occult Rituals would come in handy someday~!

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>>50186117

>Anon, size difference is my bag.

You and me both, brother. It is the foundation kink for so many of my characters it's crazy.

>>50186118
This is in fact a skinchanger, not a hobgoblin. A rageborn.

welp prepare for threadnuke.

do you people even play pathfinder
i cant even imagine the awkward table where this shit would even happen

>>50186117
Thread is about pathfinder, not your fetishes. Please stop, before we get another thread purged.

You're turning into a shitty kitsune poster.

>>50186173
roll20 almost definitely.

inb4 anon plays pathfinder at a fetish club

>>50186188
I doubt those roll20 games have webcam on

>>50186054
I kind of like the idea, but I think there's some associated penalties that cause problems.

Is this also meant to be permanent, because it reads as permanent.

>>50186156
>>50186173
>>50185822


Y'now as long as no one freaks out about it, the thread ain't gonna get nuked.

>>50186173
Yeah I would never act like I do in this thread with my group. This thread is for shitposting about pathfinder.

>>50186201

Well its a VERY rough draft, i just threw it together in the space of 10 minutes with out real number crunching.

>>50186173
>i cant even imagine the awkward table where this shit would even happen

This shit only happens in text-only Roll20 games or Discord, the vast majority of "proper" lewd (such as proper can be with that subject matter) is done in private messages or channels.

>>50186173
Yes, we do.
No, we don't make this the "focus" of our characters, fucking hell, anon, real life isn't 4chan.
I generally base my characters off a single sentence, or a character I am ripping off, and simply build up from there.
I'm in the process of making an expy of Zelgadis Greywords, but magus ain't gonna work because Zelgadis is good in fisticuffs, but doesn't combine magic and swordplay, doing them separately.
PoW/ToB may very well work, but my DM is anti-3pp because of dumb shit back in 3e days.
>>50186200
I once banged my girl while during a pf game in roll20, pulling out long enough to move my token and hit my attack/damage shortcut key before going at it again.
I just told my DM about this. He was amused.

>>50186201
>>50186217

And yes permanent

>>50186203
Things aren't even really being spoilertagged anymore, and it's better to err on the side of caution.

Occasionally when people say "guys normally I don't mind, but this is getting a bit out of control" it's a good idea to drop it. Sometimes lewdposting is ignored when we're deeply in autosage and literally everything is spoilertagged but this is taking over the main content of the thread.

Out of respect can we try to control our powerlevels and move on to something else?

>>50186227
>I once banged my girl while during a pf game in roll20, pulling out long enough to move my token and hit my attack/damage shortcut key before going at it again.
And I'm the queen of motherfucking England.

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>WotR is dead
>RotJR is so far away
>All that's left is Myth-Weavers and Roll20 campaigns

so friends how much would you hate this:
>currency is not standardized across the worlds with many countries using different currencies
>though foreign coin is often accepted there are places where it won't be (imperial coin won't get you anything in the republic, or among elves with their stupid wire money)
>players have to exchange currency or carry money in precious metals/valuables
>or bank at an internationally trusted bank

>>50186272
Overly complicated for little to no fun.

>>50186238
We already have, anon, get on the bus.
>>50186054
>see this
>making pot roast as we speak while making a PF toon AND prepping a 4e campaign while drinking lionshead beer, because fuck yeungling the traitorous bastards
>blasting Brothers In Arms from Fury Road ost
My day is awwright.

>>50186266
See. Any good ones lately?

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>>50186272

How about, instead of doing that, you fix economy prices so a gold coin is actually worth something.

Hell, use Game of Thrones as inspiration; a single gold coin could get you good food at inns for an entire year.

>>50186227
pics or it didn't happen

>>50186266
Just work on making your RotJR character the best they can be. You're competing with like 42ish people assuming none of us die, swear off PF, or just lose interest.

Or do something else? I mean, given that RPG campaigns(even ones that never finish) can go on for ages I wouldn't invest in too many at once.

>>50186264
God save the Queen, bitch, your son and grandsons are all cunts.
>>50186272
Annoying as fuck for little gain of fun. Unless you are having "Economics" play into the game, where the players can smartly manipulate markets to become rich fucks (you wouldn't allow the players to do something of the sort, I know your type), it means nothing save "You exchange your money at a local bank" if they are globetrotting, or never comes up in a game where they stay in the same area.

>>50186296
No that's part of the point. Good gold is good gold no matter whose face is stamped on it. However a lot of countries use bank notes or non-precious coinage.

Carrying around gold keeps you fed, unless it has the face of someone people REALLY hate on it.

>>50186288
>See. Any good ones lately?

There's a pretty cool looking campaign recruiting on Myth-Weavers; level 10, 25 PB, really detailed homebrew world with airships and magically-powered railroads.

As for Roll20... It's a little difficult to say, I ascribe to >>50186303 and keep myself limited to three campaigns at any given time, so I tend to gloss over even the good ones unless it REALLY stands out.

>>50186272
There's a reason that many games treat valuable gems and gp as interchangeable, because that kind of bookkeeping is boring and only autistic pedants like it. You want to make it a central mechanic of your campaign. I'll let you figure this one out yourself.

>>50186313
>it means nothing save "You exchange your money at a local bank" if they are globetrotting
That's way to easy and assumes there are banks that can cater to the hyper wealthy adventurers are. Often it's hard getting currency I frontier lands because the locals who could do the exchange (money lenders, borduts, banks, etc.) don't have enough money or don't take your kind of coin/note.

And of course players can get rich playing the game. They aren't the only ones however and it's tough becoming rich.

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>>50186300
You really want to take this thread there?
Alright, here is my ban, mods, crashing this thread with NO SURVIVORS.
>>50186303
So what is this Return of the Jedi game you are talking about?

>>50186272
I would just make it a fucking fluff thing. Sounds neat, but not fun at the table. You know?

>>50186314
>However a lot of countries use bank notes or non-precious coinage.

Uhh, why? Bank notes and non-precious coinage only work when everyone else is doing it. There were a hundred different types of coinage minted in the Middle Ages, but the Byzantine Aureus was king everywhere.

Make gold and silver valuable, don't just try to dump more bookkeeping into the setting.

>>50186334
>>50186296
>>50186278
Yeah that's about the reaction I expected. Ok thanks guys.

>>50186345
nice pussy ;)

>>50186272
Sounds kinda pointless, if I'm honest.

Fuck, GP is already abstracted to fuck anyway. How many people keep track of what's in platinum, silver, or copper?

>>50186345
Rise of the Jade Regeant

The gestalt game that has inspired this deluge of shitposting.

>>50186345
>So what is this Return of the Jedi game you are talking about?

Rise of the Jade Regent, a lewd gestalt campaign recruiting for a January start that has created a new source of waifuposting and lewd-shitting in these threads.

>>50186356
I never said gold and silver wasn't valuable. The country that uses bank notes now do it internally as a precious metal backed bank note based currency. This is due to a massive seizing of wealth from the nobility during a cultural revolution. It was a gambit to rob power from the rich that involved the printing of paper notes. Also to keep citizen moment restricted because no one internationally with accept the notes.

>>50182609
>what's your character's vice?

Besides being as close to LE as you can be while still technically LN? She hates fun.

>>50186043
Approximately two boars.

>>50186385
>Jade Regeant
Got links? I needed something to lol at anyway.

>>50186349
It factors into the plot in a few points like the bank note currency and how it's used as a trap for citizens partially. For the wire currency elves have its a status symbol because of their imperial culture (talked about it here before). For most countries they use precious metal currencies, save for parts of the empire where the coins aren't actually made of gold.

>>50186385
>>50186376
So it's a smut game?
Cool.
>>50186367
I know, right?
Beating it up gently, and she was having so much fun.

>>50186272
I have no problem with this.

>>50186417
I don't but there aren't any applications being posted anyway. That will remain true for like a two more months. The only loling to be had is from people shit posting about there characters here.

>>50186464

>That will remain true for like a two more months

He really should just open them now so we all have something to ejaculate our concepts into, the level of application blue-balls is dripping all over the thread in a very bad, smelly way.

It would also let us know who is posting what, and give the people that *want* to continue lewdposting a way to do so in private.

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>>50186054
Burgeoning Barbecue

School Transmutation (Mundane fuckery?); Level 4
Casting Time 4 hours
Components S, M (500Gp of Exotic Ingredients + at least one pound of Dragon Type Meat)
Skill Checks: Profession (Cooking) DC 28; 4 Successes
Range: Touch(*Special)
Saving Throw: None Spell Resistance: no
Backlash: Primary and Secondary Casters receive 2d6 Nonlethal Damage
Failure: While Consumer gains half their weight, speed is reduced by half, and is locked at a heavy load for 10 days.

Effect:
An exceptional fantastic meal developed originally by Giants as a gift to their closest human friends. The hearty meal, when consumed, Causes the individual consuming it to grow one size category larger. Specifically Doubling(x2) height and Oct-tupling(x8) their weight This effect is permanent. All Magical equipment worn by the consumer grows with her, mundane equipment worn by the consumer will not grow, but will remain on their person for 1+hardness rounds before bursting off. Magical weapons owned by that person will grow to fit her new size, including throwing weapons. Mundane weapons will not.

The cooks can convert this meal into a set of four kebabs to split the growth between individuals, however the effect is then reduced to 1 hour.

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>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?

He's a cross-dresser.

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>>50186610
Kill yourself, my man.

>>50186610
Shit vice, my character diddles body horror'd prostitutes.

>>50186610
Different choice of dress isn't a vice.

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>>50186627

That's why it's a vice, friend.

He doesn't even do it for one of those 4chan hedonistic "I like it up the butt" reasons, it's one of of those, "my childhood was three kinds of fucked up and this helps."

Does Warder's Extended Defense ability and Probability Twist counter from the Riven Hourglass discipline, when used together, mean that I can reroll all my d20 rolls that turn until I get whichever number suits me?

>>50186669
No but why are YOU the player having your character cross dress.

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I hate to interrupt BUT ITS HAPPENING!!

>players desperately try and moralize all villains
>villain is a serial killer who kills and mutilates beautiful women for his own enjoyment
>didn't have a bad child hood or something, he is just entierly amoral as a person
>sees nothing wrong with what he does, just a matter of course and his nature
>does not enjoy it overly, but takes satisfaction in his work
>just wants to be left alone and kill a woman every few months
>players are baffled when he isn't repentant in the slightest and entierly willing to fake confessions and shit to get away/survive
He bluffed In a moment saying he was being forced to do this. The second the players turned their backs he attacked one of them, stole a dimension door scroll he had on his person and used it to get away.

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>What's your character's vice?

He's a floraphile. GM took advantage of this later in the campaign by having the mcguffin in a cave filled with Alraune. The party had to practically drag my pantsless-ass through the cave as I consistently failed every will save to resist their charms.

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>>50186768

>>50186728
IS THAT LEWDANON'S ART?!

>>50182609
>What's your character's vice?

Avarice. Almost all my characters have an extreme love of coin. From rogues to mercs.

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>>50182609

Rabbits.

Pretty much Lenny from Of Mice and Men.

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>>50186826

I KNOW RIGHT!?

Best part is, more is coming!! Unless of course they're just doing the one part of the pose which would make me sad.

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>>50186610
nice taste, anon

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>>50186768

Nigga he's going to set your character up with a Hamadryad and it's going to be the cutest thing ever.

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>>50186863

Welp, I guess that's two of the four spots guaranteed.

Congratulations anon!

>>50186944
I'm not sure how cute it's going to be. My character has cripplingly severe social impediments and doesn't speak any languages. It'd probably be equally likely for the Hamadryad to kill my ass.

>>50187011
There's absolutely no reason that having art drawn would mean that either of those jackasses has a slot in the game. Indeed, it might push them away more.

>>50182609
Every day, she finds what will make in her mind the optimal 'torch' to use her continual flame sla on (as she is a Archon blooded Aasimar). This often leads to... less then favorable situations for the party.

Like the time she took the prized scepter of a Countess because 'It was so pretty I had to make it a torch.'

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>>50187015

How crippling are we talking here? Because you just told us he was able to fuck some Alraune just fine.

>>50187034

Oh shush, they're a little eager with throwing around their characters but they seem like alright people, they have a right to get in as much as anybody.

Envy is one of the seven deadly sins, anon.

>>50187011

YES ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HAUzVJPM2g

You can do it anon, i believe in you! Skeletor never wins.

>>50186768
Does PFhave a plant-person race for PCs anywhere?

>>50187072
Yeah, the Ghorans. They're actually not too bad if you want to be a skillmonkey without being a class that has enough points to put points into EVERY knowledge.

>>50187057
The Alraune were attempting to seduce me out of my magical trinkets. As for the severity of the social imediments... literally all 19 years of his life were spent in complete social isolation with the only interaction with another sentient being coming from his mute master who only ever interacted with him during combat exercises. He was literally brainwashed to be a mage killing device for some paranoid old wizard fuck. 0 social skills.

>>50187072
Ghorans. In the last campaign I played, their stats were used for generic plant people without the Ghoran's creepy petal faces..

>>50187062

But I was planning to make a big Tiefling (male) with Pass for Human, it feels like that might step on the other's toes.

>>50187140

Does said male clean up good? Can they do an impersonation of Vega from streetfighter? Can they be charming if you want to? If so, I think you might have a spot as her potential boyfriend.

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>>50187140
>yfw party ends up being three tieflings and a dhampir
>oh, and Ameiko too, I guess?

>>50182806
I want porn of this character.

>>50187201
>implying my character won't get in
Oh who am I kidding, he probably won't.

>>50187219
This is why we need GMs willing to pick up the slack so we can simultanious Rise of the Jade Regents.

A multiverse saga.

>>50187179

He's shamelessly inspired by Sir Duncan the Tall from Dunk & Egg, which is to say he's very strong and quite dashing, but his humility and lowborn status makes him hopelessly out of his element in noble courts.

He'd be in Sandpoint to bury the old man that plucked him off the streets of Westcrown, probably by a hill facing west so he'd always see the sunset.

>>50187218
oni's are pretty hot, yes. But contain the power level for now friend.

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Wait one second here. When did steelfist commando lose gauntlet support? Why call someone a steelfist without them having steelfists. Did they ever have it? I thought they gave them gauntlets so they could just enchant them instead of fighting with the amulet of mighty fists. It's bernstine vs bernstain all over again.

>Negotiations with bandit lord break out into combat
>Party instantly swarmed by goons and pelted by arrows
>Sworn Protector Warder finally gets to pull off the Extended Defense of his life
>Knaves, break your weapons upon my shield!
>As soon as he uses one counter all the bandits stop attacking and delay until Extended Defense wears off, then buttfuck the party with flanking sneak attacks
I have never been more mad in my entire life

>>50187278

Please tell me your character died so you could tell the DM, "hey you won! Congratulations!"

>>50187241

Then he simply must come by the Rusty Dragon and taste the curry spiced shrimp and smoked salmon, With toasted almonds as a side. Plus plenty of drinks on tap. All of it free if you've got a heroic tale to tell the owner. And the Chef would love to cook for you.

>>50187011
Nah bruh, there have been better character concepts in this thread than those lot.

>What's your character's vice?

Masochism. Our gm rolled us some random magic loot after looting a crimelord's treasure room, and among other things we found a Spiked Chain with the Vicious enchantment. I was the only character with exotic weapon prof so I decided to give it a try. My party sees it as me making a sacrifice to increase our damage output but secretly my character has become addicted to the pain.

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>>50187139
>Ghorans
They're kinda disappointing. I expected something with intoxicating pollen or whip-vines. Not just a seed.

>>50187303
Like what, tho?

>>50187303
Someone needs to link me to this game, I am very curious now.

>>50187324
Elf Slavemaster stand user.

>>50186031
If I asked you very nicely to just change your backstory would you do it?

For me?

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>>50187337
>elf slavemaster
>stand user
>a good character concept

I asked for the better concepts, anon, not the shittier ones.

>>50187325

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https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1770733/waiting-room-of-the-runeregent

>>50187179
>Does said male clean up good?
Mine does, somewhat at least. He used to be a house servant of the Kaijitsu's before Ameiko ran off to go on adventures. She managed to rope him into joining her a few years back.

>>50187352
If you were the GM? I would say I am willing to change it, but to a different heinous crime. My character's entire moral conflict is based around guilt and shame over what he did and how he is both living in exile, and running away from both his countrymen and himself.

I'd be willing to change it to killing the brother of my bride to be in some dispute. That'd also work.

>>50187356
>not loving elf slavemaster
it's like you don't even want to see a middle aged elf romance Ameiko.

>>50187360

Good chance you Know Onryou because she's her younger sister... Longjiku's got some bad genes or something. Or really really good genes depending on who you ask.

>>50187366
That's a much better option, partially because there's really nothing you can do to "apologize" for it. Eventually a rapist might be forgiven by their victim, but if you murder someone then that's it; there is not apologizing, no redemption, no forgiveness. It's much more of a struggle to deal with as a person.

>>50187411
>murderhobos
>somehow murdering someone in the past is worse then murdering all those goblins right now

>>50187366
Murder, torture, arson, whatever dude. Its all fine.

I was in a game once where we were doing a dark and gritty style. Later it came out that my character was kicked out of his home for being a rapist. One of the guys we played with was super quiet and I later learned that he was raped by his dad before he left to join the army. He was a cool guy but that really kinda ruined the adventure. It made everything a bit too real.

Could you change it to be something else, just for me?

>>50187433
In the game in question it'd be fine, mostly because of a cognitive dissonance between wartime and peacetime murder/fighting. The character is a soldier and always has been. The brother killing would be an act of jealously and guilt, rather than in service to his nation. It would be a personal failing rather than duty.

Even then in war he tries really fucking hard not to kill, rather to capture. In play he would spare those he can, treat the wounded, and generally try not to have anyone die. If he things fighting/killing can be avoided he will straight refuse to fight. When fighting in self defense he would do all he can to ensure the other doesn't die, which he can do due to his class.

>>50187302

After weeks of hard rations and salt beef, a meal that fine would make him feel like the Grand Prince of Taldor! He's never had shrimp before, much less curry, so he'll probably think the cook's quite the master of her craft.

He's poor on coin but rich in stories, and since that's accepted currency at the Rusty Dragon you'll be seeing a lot of him!

>>50187272
Right now they read as 'barehanded' combatants whose natural attacks function as manufactured weapons too.

The only initiating archetype that I know of which was gauntlet oriented was the fiendbound marauder.

>>50187378

We've already had an anon talk about his middle-aged Oracle making Ameiko his wife.

>>50187356

Then tell us who you thought were good concepts.

>>50187411
Dude. There's explicit resurrection magic in the rules.

>>50187438
>Could you change it to be something else, just for me?
I mean I'm not unless the GM wants me to. I know no one in the group has had issues of that type mostly because a previous adventure featured a villain who was a rapist and nothing happened.

>One of the guys we played with was super quiet and I later learned that he was raped by his dad before he left to join the army.
A friend of mine was murdered while I was with them, but I don't freak out whenever killing happens in game. I have moved past it. I'm not saying your friend is weak because he hasn't, it was likely extremely traumatic, but I do not think the fiction should be stifled in that manner.

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Can a paladin worship a god that isn't LG and still be LG themselves? I mean only clerics have to be one step from there god, right? Even if that's not the case though, can a paladin then at least follow a LN or NG god? How would such a paladin work, roleplay-wise?

>>50187486
>We've already had an anon talk about his middle-aged Oracle making Ameiko his wife.
Not enough slaves.

What Tier 3 classes can hit Tier 2 with proper optimization?

>>50187494
>Having rape in my story is more important than the players enjoying their time.
Quit being a douche.

>>50187510

Well Paladins dont nessiarily get their divine power from any one deity. Just from the raw goodness they exude.

So technically you could have a Paladin that worships Asmodeus.

>>50187522
So, the thing is, tiers describe the ability for a class to be versatile both in and out of combat. You have to disentangle tiers from power. Because there are tier 3 characters (bard) who can have the shit kicked out of them by tier 4 characters (barbarian).

A Hexcrafter Magus, Monster Tactician Inquisitor, and Magician/More Bard can increase their versatility enough to scrape the bottom of tier 2, but not really.

>>50187541
I've heard of Paladins of Asmodeus before, but how does THAT even work? I mean a LG class working for a LE deity? How do they not lose their powers?

>>50187532
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the game featured a villain who was a rapist in the past so I know it won't be a problem. Some players are able to handle these topics in their game. Not everyone shirks away from it instinctively. The point is that it is a heinous crime.

It is a topic that can come into play, it just depends on the table. The point is I'm not changing it to appease a poster on /tg/ who isn't even in my game.

>>50187565
>an a LG class working for a LE deity? How do they not lose their powers?

Worship him from a Lawful neutral prospective.

>>50187552
>versatility
You're misunderstanding tiers. T2 classes are actually less versatile than t3 classes. T1 vs T2 is versatility, T2 vs T3 is about having access to abilities that fundamentally alter the gameplay, such as divination spells and long distance teleportation.

>>50187593

You could say Asmo is quite the cunning linguist down south, hmm?

>>50187483
Gauntlets look like they only change the damage type to 1d3 lethal instead of his 1d2 lethal. With gauntlet style feats it's warpreist -4 for gauntlets. That's passable. Seems weird as I remember some sort of damage scaling for his unarmed back when it was in play testing. Either way, I guess it's functional with the style chain and it's cheaper than the amulet.

>>50187594
Then my statement is still correct. Major/Grand hexes alter gameplay hugely Hello 18th level caster from any class. Monster tacticians alter the game for the same reason summoners do. Magician bards are debatable.

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I'm going to be playing a campaign where we're all holding various positions in a castle and have to defend the queen! My party is a Symbiat, a Stonelord Paladin, and some weird third party class involving love colored magic, but I don't know what to play! Someone please help!

>>50187593
How can you worship an LE god from an LN perspective but still be LG?

>>50187646
Multiple different ways. Only progressing the lawful, not evil aspects of the deity. Only learning about a heretical version of the deity and their faith, mainly involving law. Taking a trait that allows it.

>>50187381
>Or really really good genes depending on who you ask.
He would never really give this much thought given that Lonjiku basically took him aside one day and told him "You do good work kid, but if you lay one lowborn mongrel finger on my daughter(s) you'll find yourself bound, gagged, possibly castrated, and on a ship to the Shackles. Good talk."

Which is also why he didn't retire when he returned with Ameiko, that and learning that his mother died in a church fire meaning he didn't have all that much to go back to.

>>50187637
What position in the castle are you gunning for? And it just castle positions or country positions?

Anyway, play a Castellan Cavalier:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/castellan-cavalier-archetype

And use Martial Training feats to get maneuvers.

>>50187646

Simple, dont have a class that requires you to be in one step of a deity to have powers.

>>50187646

Channel your Obi-Wan Kenobi and look at it from "a certain point of view."

>>50187625
Fiendbound marauder has fiends grip, which is 1d8 lethal bludgeoning or slashing 20/x2, grapple & reach & grab properties, can hit adjacent foes. Full strength bonus, gains whatever enhancements the gauntlet / spiked gauntlet has.

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>>50187637
>some weird third party class involving love colored magic

Excuse me? Can you link what they're using?

>>50187682
>http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=05e0eglm27caqe2sgrefgd0ep5&topic=13491.0
I did a quick google after my post and found this!

>>50187674
>>50187625
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder/warder-archetypes/fiendbound-marauder-warder-archetype

Seriously, try that. You can re-fluff it based on your character too. You could be a 'holy' one and gain a nimbus of burning fire instead of armor spikes, and some sort of celestial claw or someshit.

Take the trait that lets you swap a school and drop black seraph for silver crane.

What is the most bitter and angry PC you've ever played?

What made him such a bad person?

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>>50187696
That seems neat!

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>>50187769
Yeah! They get 9th level maneuvers AND spellcasting while being cute!

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>>50187712
>>50187674
I kinda like the idea but I'm tied into CHA as I'm gestalting with an oracle. It's only +2 average damage and a reach with some added grapple specialization, plus warder boosts. It adds a little bit of utility with some AoO feats but I'm already a little choked for feats. As it stands the size increase and the sneak attack at level 8 would deal more direct damage then the swap and the team buffs warlord gets are more attractive overall.

Thanks for the advice though anon's, I appreciate it bigly!

>>50187486
Literally any character but the slavemaster was at least "a character I'd be willing to play with", even if some of them were of lesser quality. Best one by far was Artisanbro, for sure.

>>50187359
link leads to a not authorized error

>>50187790
Which one was of the least quality?
What made the good quality ones good to you?

>>50187762

He was cuckolded by his wife with a dragon.

>>50187762
A paladin. He wasn't a bad person, but he had frustration issues.

Hated being able to sense and smell evil but constrained by laws not to act without evidence. Almost went full biblical satan ("I will tempt you to do evil, so I can punish you for being evil, and torment you for not being good in the first place - I'll leave people who resist my temptations the alone though").

For the most part he was an alright guy, but occasionally he could get vindictive when he was having a particularly shitty day. He *was* alright to the truly good though.

Occasionally went Rueben "Rooster" J. Cogburn at times.

>>50187790
>not wanting to play with slavemaster

>>50187762
I made a drow who wanted to be evil but kept messing up if that counts?

She wanted to keep up with how evil her sisters were so her mom and pop would give her attention.

>>50187817
>Occasionally went Rueben "Rooster" J. Cogburn at times.

By this I mean "You will surrender and I can take you to the local justice to be hanged for your crimes - you will be given a burial with full and proper rights and sent to your god... If you refuse I will kill you here and I do not have the time to bury you - your bones will lay unconsecrated and your soul shall wander forever. Make your choice".