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Pathfinder General /pfg/

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

What's your current character's art?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Kineticists of Porphyra IV: End of an Era playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTgiUdDSrTCvATEDeDJ4MnbDgS6KEBLu2e9mjj5fwaw/edit
Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg

Old thread: >>50182609
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>>50188799
Tzneujax, Last of his line!
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>>50188776
>>50188786

That sounds like Molthune, which is the rising superstar of the Inner Sea.

>>50188799
>What's your current character's art?

Here's one of three characters.
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>>50188799
We were going for some nice sprites rather than anything too fancy
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I'm trying to pick but I don't know if I want to play a boy or girl.
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Calin Mallisto, EXTREMELY PRETTY elf!

but really he's a half-drow in disguise
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>>50188823
>Here's one of three characters.

That picture is for my Slayer in the monster hunter campaign, this post's pic is for my Tiefling in the knightly knights of chivalry and herosim (he's meant to be way hairier, though.)
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>>50188835

Get something androgynous then flip a coin.
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>>50188799
Seska waht are yuo doing in Pahtfinder?
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>>50188835
I'm just playing a hermaphroditic tiefling and that will never come up in game ever.
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>>50188799
>character art
http://imgur.com/eDrnsrK
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>every ZweiSent with a Nodachi and Ioun Stones
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>>50188883
>http://imgur.com/eDrnsrK

What is that drum made out of? Looks robotic. Is your character from Numeria?
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>>50188799
I unironically want to base a tiefling's appearance off of long hair!Ky Kiske, just slapping on a single horn on his forehead, then a lion tail because Prehensile tail is too fun to pass up. Except it's all disguise based off his ideal "hero", and in reality he has stringy grey hair, sunken, tired eyes, and super pale skin from never going outside.
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Pic name related.
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>>50187920
>>50188164
H-Hey, nothing's wrong with being a crossdressing shota foxboy! At least as long as there is more to him than just overwhelming cuteness but "don't flanderize your characters too much" is generally good advice.

>>50188799
>What's your current character's art?
Deciding between the two for PsyArm: https://imgur.com/a/bCEV9

Also, shouldn't KoP IV playtest be removed from the OP?
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>>50188799
>What's your current character's art?

I posted it last thread, silly!
>>50188771

Well I mean, he's not technically a *current* character, but he's something I want to play!
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>>50188799
>What's your current character's art?
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>>50188799
I fucking hate Wayne Reynolds. He is a blight on the hobby.
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What was your favorite LG character like /pfg/?
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>>50188799
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>>50188973

I have never played one. As a forever GM this is my curse.
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>>50188981
...what was your favorite LG NPC...?
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>>50188955

So cute!
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>>50188997

Thanks, you have no idea how much fun I am having with her. I really wish it was a lewd game.
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>>50188987

Lazare, 1st Centurion of Caesar Allando;

Leper turned "Knight" turned priest who got part of his soul ripped out of him.

He's been existing in a pocket plane where all people who have become "Half-Dead" reside. He's the head of the Everliving Brotherhood and sends parties of half dead adventurers on Multi-dimentional missions to stave off their collective decay into non-existance.

Jolly person all together, enjoys gardening.
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Which is better for a Warder, assuming both are equally possible?
20 Str and 16 Con, or 18 for both?
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>>50189026

Tell us about her and why you really wish it was a lewd game!
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So is Brevoy the Prussia/HRE of Golarion? Or is it "assholes (also spain)" like the map suggests?
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>>50189048
>So is Brevoy the Prussia/HRE of Golarion? Or is it "assholes (also spain)" like the map suggests?

That map is outdated, the Prussia of the setting is Molthune (More Nazis) while the HRE is labeled (Huge International Clusterfuck.)

Brevoy is Poland, not Prussia.
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>>50188756
>he has apprehensions, but due to basically being a spineless wimp who lives vicariously through fiction and history and regularly fantasizes about becoming a super powerful mage he agrees.
>a year of off screen adventuring happens.
>he's super fucking stoked to share all this gold with his mother. She won't have to work herself to the bone anymore
>too bad she died in a church fire.
>Lonjiku is fucking pissed that some fuck ran off with his daughter.
>pays some mercs to beat the living shit out of him and tell him to get out of town
>He tells Ameiko just that, she's fucking furious and insists that he stays
>He just wants to wash his hands of this
>The stress of recent events also makes him grow a fucking spine and this somehow leads to them having a big fucking fight. Things were thrown, faces were spat in, and terrible things about why exactly they associated with each other in the first place
>He just fucking leaves his share of the loot on the ground, and rides away.
>The next day he really fucking regrets what he did, since Ameiko was basically his only friend and that bridge had been burned to cinders.
>Also getting work is a lot harder when you don't have a pretty face backing you up.
>next couple of years is a whirlwind of odd jobs, ruin exploration, merc work, and booze.
>he also pens some shitty fiction under a pseudonym in his down time in a dingy inn room in Magnimar
>one night, he sees an old Tien man being accosted by some thugs.
>normally he would just ignore this, crimes nothing new in the city but they were blocking his way.
>he dispatches some thugs, the old man is grateful.
>offers PC a job as a body guard, he has no cash on him but claims he can teach him how to better use his abilities.
>PC tentatively agrees
>Old man is a good teacher, teaches PC how to better control his power and grow a backbone. He however cautions him of the burgeoning blood lust he senses within the PC
>He's also a pretty cool guy to hang out with in general
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>>50189067
What happens in Molthune? Besides (more nazis), are they know for anything in particular?
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My character is a Not!Viking who is out to find something more in life besides pillaging.So far he had found more pillaging, plundering and dungeon looting.
>>50188835
Be a boi
>>50188973
I have never played a LG character funnily enough, its one of the three alignments I haven't and probably never will play (LG NE CE)
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>>50188830
Heya, pal.

Also, hi DM. I'm not the only one you're keeping an eye on, am I?
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>>50189069
Again this is way too long and shitty
>old man is really cool, but also very secretive about his activities and why exactly he's traveling.
>eventually they get set up to head to this place called "Brinewall"
>old man suggests stopping in Sandpoint, PC insists strongly they carry on.
>they do so.
>they get ambushed in the middle of the night not that far out from town.
>barely manage to fight off the attackers
>old man is severely injured, so is the PC.
>he manages to drag them back to the outskirts of Sandpoint, before collapsing in a bloody heap.

Roast me.
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>>50189110
>Be a boi
What did he mean by this?
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>>50189087

They're an Imperialist oligarchy that operates under Prussian government standards (which is to say, the military budget and state budget are one and the same) and have spent much effort to expand their realm in the Inner Sea, particularly against the peaceful agricultural kingdom of Nirmathas.

They are, to put it simply, the basic "evil empire" of masked soldiers supplemented by the occasional allied dragon or Superweapon of the Week.
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>>50189127
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>>50189134
No
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>>50189110
>My character is a Not!Viking who is out to find something more in life besides pillaging.So far he had found more pillaging, plundering and dungeon looting.

>He
>Posts picture of someone with obvious breasts

Anon...
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>>50189127
Boy who looks like a girl
AKA A TRAP
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>>50189048
>the distance between Rahadoum and Varisia

Well, there goes that idea.
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>>50189138
Well that's what was meant.
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>>50188973

He was a ratfolk construct rider from the Deep Market under Goka. Pretty silly, but very fun.
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>>50189142
>His trap doesn't pad his armor
Git gud
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>>50189145
>Well, there goes that idea.

Hey hey, hey! Anon! You know what closes that distance real nice?

Longships. Ulfen Longships. Maybe your character was taken as a thrall but got overboard somehow near Varisia.
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>>50188799
he's dropped the ranseur some time ago, but otherwise the same.
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>>50189160

It's going to really disappoint you when I say I'd not have sex with a trap even if we got to the "clothes coming off" thing, right? The obsession with guys dressing as girls is just obnoxious around here.

I want boobs! Not a dick!
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>>50189168
>tfw no partisan martial weapon in pathfinder
A-at least I have you, glaive-kun. ;_;
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>>50189161
Maybe that happens after he gets kicked out.

All he wanted was to impress the local Pure Legion captain, so he thought he'd go hunt down some foreign cultists. Lucky for him, he actually managed to find one!

Unfortunately, they misread his intentions when he showed up with the confiscated holy symbols and texts.
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>>50189192

Why is the glaive such a beautiful weapon.
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>>50189045
On the surface she is just a sweet innocent elf girl what do? who aims to please and get along as best she can with everyone. Her dagger is sharper then her tongue and her fingers are faster than her blade and she swears she saw your lost ring over here in the bushes that only she seems to able to find. That little trick has gotten her out of trouble 3 times now. She doesnt think her luck will ever run out and has a very happy-go-lucky attitude about it.

Currently she is running jobs for her guild while adventuring with the party. Her skills as a "troubleshooter" got her into the group and it was the perfect excuse for her to be sent out and about into the world to collect dues, tithes, and coin for her boss. Each town they visit has drops and pickups for her to take care of, though the groups inquisitor is starting to catch on.

She has a soft spot for him and really wants to troubleshoot her way through him every way she can and the forbidden tension is crazy strong between the two of them. They tease all the time like they are daring the other to try something to breach their code of conduct and enjoy each other.
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>>50189175
A:You're taking the name too literally
B:Traps are not just a sexual thing
C:What are you, fuckin gay?

Also here's what he looked like a few years ago
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> Need to work on a campaign for this weekend
> Can't stop getting distracted by coming up with new characters
Send help
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>>50189208
There's a lot of beautiful weapons, anon.
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>>50189227

No Knight-Kun, you made your bed and now you lay in it.
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>>50189229
Like the unarmed strike!
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>>50189239
Exactly
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>>50189229

Pointy metal attached to a thick rod will never not get me worked up, anon.
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>>50189217
>>50189175
Oh yeah and
D:
>Implying you could get a girl (or boi) to take their clothes off for you anyway
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>>50189239
Or the GUN! To bad it sucks.
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>>50189239
Everyone knows this to be true.
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>>50189262
I'm glad I have the revolver instead!
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>>50189253
Maybe I can be your girlfriend tonight.
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>>50189229
Is psychokinetic fire a weapon?
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>>50189279
Sorry I can't hear you over how nice this is.
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>>50189262
No, THIS is a good looking gun, that is an overly designed gun made to show off as an art piece.

It really is a shame they suck so bad though
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>>50189216

Oh gosh oh gosh, she sounds like a sweet lil firecracker! I'd love to be the fly on the wall for those sessions, because cute n' peppy types are by *far* the sweetest things, and she's got that in spades. That possible relationship she might have with the Inquisitor sounds awesome though, getting railed by the lawman as a wanted criminal is hot.

Have you tried talking to the Inquisitor's player about your interest in a relationship? It's not a lewd game yes, but that doesn't mean you need to say no to love, you just gotta broach the subject with him through private messages!

The very same private messages you could use to hold filthy ERP sessions (assuming he's interested.)
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>>50189229
Is this cheeseburger a weapon?
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>>50189317

PAX
HAMBURGANA
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>>50189317
Yes, if you want it to be.
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>>50189308
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>>50188799
>What's your current character's art?

I'm the DM though.
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>>50189317
How about "full of shit"? Is that a meme___?
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>>50189331
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>>50189342
I think it's a political condition
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>>50189331
This is ugly and getting a little too advanced
>>50189344
See above
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>>50189350

You're a political condition.
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>>50189344
That looks as retarded as the gun rules in pathfinder.
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>All this martial pride created by my picture

For once I am happy in this thread.

Have a pumpkin
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>>50189342
Exquisite.

>>50189308
I hear ya.
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>>50189360
You can't fight nature, Jack!
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>>50189358

That pumpkin is cute! Can I keep it?

Have a ZweiSent from Amanandar fighting some Minkai soldiers!
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>>50189315

Our DM has a policy of PG/PG13 games even though she has the hots for the authority out to get her. Even our in character teasing pushes his limits and he likes to throw in game interruptions to stop it including
>random rain storms to "cool" us off
>random children running up to beg for coins
>random guards rounding the corner to tell us off and to move along

It has all be exasperating for her.
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>>50189357

Sorry, posted the wrong Mateba
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>>50189354
your mother's a political condition
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>>50189379
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>>50189380

So what you're saying is you can't talk to the player in private about hooking up because you're *trying* to hook up in-game, but every time something keeps you from doing it? You poor thing, that girl needs to figure out a way to get him in bed (or in an alley, or under the table, or *something.*)
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>>50189387
Post more swords mayne
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>>50189229
How about nice, slightly impractical swords?
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>>50189380
>she
oh if only you knew...
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>>50189411
>>50189419
Would you a sword?
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>>50189411
>Post more swords mayne

This is the sword my character uses! He only takes it out when things get serious!
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>>50189405

I am not sure how the inquisitor would react to a more one on one session to be honest. That is why I wish it were a lewd game because then I would know for sure and be less shy about asking.
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>>50186694
Bumping the question.
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>>50189433

If i was a bladebound magus, yes
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>>50189411
I like them nice and non-flashy
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>>50189452

He likes you, right? He likes playing with you and roleplaying the cute back-and-forth flirting, yeah? All you've gotta do is tell him, in private, that you think your character is falling for his hard, or if romance is off the table between the two of them.

Where did the DM find this player?
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>>50189471
I prefer mine drenched in the blood of my enemies.
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>>50189471
That's still flashy man
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>>50189475
>>50189452

Meant to say if romance is *on* the table.

Silly me. Though I'd like to add with this post that, if you wanted to see how likely lewd is, if your character just wants to have a purely physical relationship.
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Who is your favorite iconic?
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What are good sourcebooks or material for stuff about Hell and Devilkind? Pathfinder, D&D, real-world material, whatever.

I'm thinking up this small nation that has bound its fate to Hell, not willingly. LN nation forced to submit to LE. I'm trying to think of what Prince/Duke of Hell, Archdevil has them under control.
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>>50189475

I joined the online group. We are text based with no voice (GM insisted due to issues with it). The other player was there before me. I guess the only thing for me is to work up the courage to do it.
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>>50189444

That sword is beautiful.
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Hi, guys, I need some ideas. What would be some plausible reasons for a 'young prodigal' type of a guy to leave his house and join (mercantile?) agency?
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Hol' up.

Is Shelyn the god of moe?
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>>50189511

Parents cut him off. Now he has to make his own money.
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Less common weapons need love too
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>>50189501

Ask him *now*, you big goof. Just say something like how you've been thinking about your character's relationship with his and it might be fun if they actually had something going on between them.
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>>50189419
Practical swords are best swords
>>50189433
Yes!
>>50189444
Keep your sword put away until someone asks for it
Both of your swords
>>50189471
That's pretty flashy
>>50189492
Literally all of them are ahit IMO except maybe the wizard who I don't known about
>>50189511
Adventure, he needed the money real bad, he needs to reach his true potential, revenge, love, wealth, king and country, a past debt and escape all are easy ones.
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>>50189529
>Is Shelyn the god of moe?

You're darn tootin' right she is.
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>>50189511

Disinheritance is one of my favorites. Or the father is going bankrupt and was hiding it so he has to make his own way. Or his father isnt gifting him enough and wants him to do it himself. Maybe he wants to earn it himself or doesnt just want it handed to him.


>>50189546

Shhh it is hard and I am shy! And she has to play it cool and goofy or he might catch on. If she falls in love he for sure will find out.
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>>50189557
Does that make her the goddess of smug by proxy?
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>>50189547
>Keep your sword put away until someone asks for it

Of course, and even then he'll keep it away! He hung up the sword a long time ago to pick up the paintbrush and devote himself to a lifetime of creation after spending his youth as a swordsman, he wants to "give" after a life of "take!"

Besides, he's got a sword cane for the more typical encounters, the Dueling Sword is for when he accepts his fate and takes up the blade to restore the rightful Amatatsu heir to the Jade Throne!
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>>50189583

Dude you have no idea.

She's the best kind of smug too, where she isn't actually being an asshole about her smugness, she's just absurdly ara~ara~ about it.
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>>50189583
No.
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>>50189575

This conversation isn't the only "hard" thing you'll be dealing with if he supports the relationship! And trust me, you kinda have to at least ask him OOC if a relationship is okay, since inter-player stuff like that tends to need some level of screening.

For real though, you seem to love the thought of this thief girl hooking up with the Inquisitor, you really do need to try and advance the relationship tonight if you want to take it to the next level.
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>>50188830
That reminds me, I need to do that with my party! More than just a single mugshot, at least.
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So i am about to join a new party and everyone begged me to get a Cleric or a Paladin because no one is on heal duty, so every single encounter ends up with them almost dying on the spot and then resting a fucking lot so i decided i would fill that role.

The thing is i hate being so straightforward, dont just want a boring Cleric with Healing domain to heal and call it a day.

What are some good uncommon ways of being a healer? Maybe alchemist? Get some healing potions and throw them at people to heal them? What are some good healer alternatives that arent Cleric or Paladin?
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>>50189668
Telekineticist or hydrokineticist with the Kinetic Healer talent.
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>>50189630

Tonight! Ohmygosh this is all so sudden and moving so fast!
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>>50189668

Vitalist from DSP is sexy. Oradin is a good choice as well. Vitaldin combines as well.
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>>50189668
Oracle is good for this.

Alternatively, you could do a Cleric or Paladin that specializes in whatever you want and buy a Wand of Cure Light Wounds. Anything with CLW on its spell list is fair game for this, actually.
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>>50188799
He's an Aegis, in case that wasn't obvious.
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>>50189693

Go get 'em! Go talk to him now, and give us an update when you're able!
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>>50189668
PoW's Creation Zealot does his healing as a free action and does immediate action damage reduction + suppressing status effects. They are what you need in your life because you are one or the best healers AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, you still wreck face as a full initiator.
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Hey folks, I've got a question about a scarlet throne-focused ZweiSent and the Landsknecht;

Which is more efficient; [Warder 8| Landsknecht 2], or [Warder 6| Landsknecht 4]? The former gives me that delicious bonus feat at level 8, however the latter gets me a bonus to attack rolls and turning my longsword into a reach weapon!
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>character forced into loveless abusive marriage
>has daughter which is the only thing he cares about
>character abused to the point that he ends up murdering his wife after she killed his daughter
>it was covered up
>father who despises the son reveals that he pushed for this as the daughter was weak
>ends up throttling him at his wife's funeral
>is going to be executed
>city leader essentially make Suicide Squad centered around him
>gets vile leadership
Too much?
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>>50189779
Reach should almost always be better than a bonus feat.
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>>50189792
That sounds way too forced.
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>>50189227
>sleep tight crusader
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>>50189810
In what way? There is more detail than this as to why his father has this cruel vendetta but I didn't want to make too long of a post. To summarize it he is actually the son of the father's rival who died years ago. His wife cheated on him, the son was born and the rival died. He did not want to reveal the charade for fear of disgrace publicly. So he raised the kid cruelty. The father is LE for reference.
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>>50189843
The culture he lives in is LE, he himself is LN.
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>>50189843
So the character never did anything about the mother's abuse to his child even though she's the most important thing in his life? Did the mother just snap and go from normal mother to murder in one day? Why would the father reveal that he pushed his daughter-in-law to do that without being sure of his safety. He knows that his son just murdered his daughter-in-law. Why would the mayor even recruit the murderer into a squad. What would the murderer be able to do that the guard couldn't.
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>>50189860
No he did do a lot about it, but as a military sailor he had to leave on campaign so was gone for extended periods of time. He returned after six months to find out what had happened. The mother was abusive but thing basically started going down hill from mild to extreme abuse and the character couldn't do much because he was gone.

The father revealed it by accident, essentially caught by the son in a lie and admitted to it.

It wasn't the guard the character was put into a military unit. For reference the game starts at level 8 so I'm a lot stronger than a guard and an established competent military man enjoying some reputation up until this point.
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>mfw someone argues against the use of feat tax
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>>50189936
Why?
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>>50189955

The DM is already giving non-magical martials a free bonus feat and +2 to any ability score, the other player is arguing they're "already getting enough" and "this isn't supposed to be a mechanical game anyway."
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>>50189967
>"this isn't supposed to be a mechanical game anyway."
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>>50189967
There's no hope
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>>50189990
>use
A rare kumiko!
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>>50189967
An extra bonus feat should be replaced with feat retooling imo
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>>50190008
Have a small kumiko
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>>50188799
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>>50190051

Have a small school.
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>>50190062

Too small?

Here's a bigger one, much more spacious!
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>Shelyn has a kurisumassu deito holiday
>Goddess of moe
>Goddess of smug
>Has a chuuni brother
What's next?
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>>50190099

She's also the goddess of ara~ ara~, as she presides over romance regardless of age or orientation, and above all loves children.

Heck, she's even the ultimate ojou-sama, as she always knows the right things to say that keeps everyone happy.
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I've been comtemplating adding some house rules into my pathfinder sessions, and I was interested in getting your guy's take on it

>Medium/Heavy Armor don't give as much AC anymore, but rather now gives DR (DR5 for medium, DR 10 for Heavy), and gain further AC and DR against different types of damage based on the materials they're made with/enchantments you give them
>Light Armor give increased AC(further increased with magical enchantents)
My goal with this is to differentiate between AC being "how easily you are hit," and giving actual armor the capability of "reducing how much damage you take."

Magic Users
>Any spell that normally requires a standard action now requires a full-round action. However, spells whose levels are 2 or lower than your highest known spell can be cast with standard actions. (I.E You're a 10th level sorcerer, knowing up to 5th level spells. 5th and 4th level spells require a full-round, though spell levels 0-3 can be cast with a standard action).
>Quicken Metamagic reduces the casting time by a tier (Full-Round -> Standard, Standard -> Swift).
I'm hoping this will lower the overall power level of casters, but give them a sense of becoming more adept with magic as they increase in levels.

In context for my setting, I'm planning on a relatively low-magic campaign, hence the changes for magic. What are your guys' take on this?
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>>50190120
>she always knows the right things to say that keeps everyone happy.
I must become her apprentice!
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>>50188799

Have you convinced your party mates to Pose with you yet?
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I'm alive and back home. Vacation(TM) isn't officially over just yet but you should be seeing new malefex content soon. Once I get that posted, could folks do me the courtesy of putting that playtest in the OP?

Or granting me the peace of death, death works too.
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>>50190120
>>50190099
>>50190145

>The few paladins who worship her practice courtly love, with female paladins attempting to win the attentions of attractive young noblemen (or sometimes, attractive young noblewomen).

Shelyn loves building up a relationship with lots of chaste, cute love before consummation! This means she likes cute little kisses, but loves hand-holding!
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>>50188907
I am actually genuinely curious, how big of a shitter am I for doing this for my character's appearance, anyway? I'm obviously not so dumb as to just copypaste wholesale and was going to look up some references for a different outfit, but even then I don't feel particularly creative with it.
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>>50190148

Nah, I'm gonna lone wolf it!
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Have you guys ever played gestalt? What's it like? What are some fun gestalt combos?
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>>50190193

Considering the vast majoirty of my applicants are either,

A, Gruff mercenary types with stubble and stern gaze.
B, Slutty girls who have random cat features.

I think you might be okay.
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>>50190193

Dude it's fine, oftentimes when someone makes a character they copy the appearance wholesale from their character art anyway.

>>50190199

Gestalt's actually a whole lot of fun! People like to say it's overpowered - and it can be - but there's many combinations you can play in it that are simply unavailable elsewhere!

The most popular combination by far is Paladin|Oracle, but you can do all sorts of neat things like Paladin|Steelfist, Warder|Slayer, or Barbarian|Brawler (or as I like to call it, the Brawlbarian.)
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>>50190199
My personal favorite gestalt combo is to take Druid on one side with the Ambush Hunter Ranger on the other side. It's pretty "nature theme" heavy, but means you can have both a full set of spellcasting and an animal companion capable of meaningfully contributing to combat in fun and interesting ways. Excellent action economy too.

Is it great? Nah. There's plenty of stronger combinations. But it's fun.
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>>50190199
I played a Bard||Warlord Gestalt back in PoW1 playtest days. Lots of fun, other than getting yelled at because I'd charge in to be a hero. It's not my fault the warder||psion was slow to react every combat!

Pic related.
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>>50190199
I've played it and GMed it, and I am still doing both.

It's really nice. Any combos where both sides involve the same ability scores are fun and pretty easy to make without having to worry about being bad at what you do.

>>50190258
Best pic best character
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>>50190199
I played a Warder|Investigartor not too long ago, primarily because I wanted to make use of my high intelligence for skills as well as sneak attacks for supplemental stuff.

Practically speaking, I ended up as the focus character for the group, since I ended up taking Orator because the party had no face, on top of being the frontline combatant and the person who actually knows everything about what we were fighting.

The team made it less fun due to being butthurt about me hogging the spotlight, but the character was a lot of fun for me,
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How do familiars/eidolons/animal companions work? Do they get their own turns? Do they share actions and movements with their owner? Do they have their own moves and actions, but share turns?

Every source I look up seems to claim something different.
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>pfg always talks about waifus, always about the waifus and the big tits
>OP asks you to post character pics
>Only like one of the posted characters is waifu material

What the fuck, guys?
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>>50190155
How was your vacation, Gareth? Did you see any sights? Eat good food?
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>>50190278
They're the cutest together.

I will say, gestalt planning is easy as long as you keep the ability scores and action economy in mind. everything else just werks.
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>>50190148
That's a cutie with a big book!
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>>50190148
>>50190307
Throw in her older sister.
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>>50190292
Technically speaking, companion creatures get their own turn, but for the sake of simplicity most GMs roll the companion's turn into the player's turn, so your wolf buddy will act on the same initiative as your druid.

All companion creatures get their own set of actions. If you somehow manage to have your character, a familiar, an animal companion, and an eidolon, you effectively have four standard actions and four move actions, one of each for each character.

As such, "they have their own moves and actions, but share turns" is generally what occurs.
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>>50190307

The book is actually her primary melee weapon!
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>>50189967
Yeah, he's literally one of those colossal douchebags playing full casters that used to scream shit out like

>Psionics is imbalanced you can spend infinite PPs every round full OP OMG infinite damage !!!!oneoneone11!11One

>Fighters have martial proficiency, which means they actually have the equivalent of fifty separate weapon feats, while my wizard only has these six half-feats because they're simple weapons, and despite that they have just as many skill points as I do

>Clerics have only a tiny bit more but have to follow a strict code of conduct so you pay for it in roleplaying; it's actually on par with your rogue as a result

And other COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKING BULLSHIT that they will tell you with a straight fucking face, because NOTHING turns them on like seeing others in the party be less capable than they are in every way.

And I mean "turns them on". That player that's arguing, in your party?

He's jizzing in his pants with every piece of punctuation in his claims. Tell the disgusting son of a bitch to get back in his hugbox until he stops feeling like he needs to be a gigantic asshole.
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>>50190246
>>50190253
I mean, I've already done "basically this except with x" before. My Half-Elf Lunar Oracle is just just pic related with pointy ears in terms of appearance. Nothing alike with personality aside from maybe "goes ballistic if you hurt his friend" or actual dress, but the half-elf is STRONK.

>tfw legit thinking of going to compile a reference and get a drawfriend to draw a character I may never play

What am I doing.
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>>50190363

>Hitting people with a book

That's kind of mean, you know!
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>>50190378

Specially since it does 1d6 damage
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>>50188955
I have none.

I need some. Probably a mini for him too.
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>>50190370

A-Anon... He's not playing a caster... He's playing an Unchained Rogue.
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>>50190424
Jealousy?
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Still masturbating.
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Anyone got some good character creating music? I need something!
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>>50190304
It was great, with the exception of, ah, Tuesday evening, which is about as far as I go on the off-topic questioning.
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>>50190475

Dont spend them all in one place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusKtwGn6pg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIqxoUKU0U0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napHgL9iqfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqK3AUzpCtA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zGSkMImDlk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7I4Ryzwg1A
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>>50190155

>4 white girls
>2 black Drow

WEBBED
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>>50189276
Being threaded together like that is bad. you want a solid shaft otherwise your weapon will deform.
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>>50190515
Margrave is /still/ a maenad.
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>>50190525
That's the right one, right?
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>>50190532
It's the gentleman in the long coat, with the tied-back black hair and the stolen military medals.
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>>50190525
>maenad

I thought those were suppose to be female? Wait is he a trap?
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>>50190547
No, you're thinking Naiads. Maenads are psychic headsquid people.
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>>50190547
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/races/maenad
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>>50190547

I wouldn't doubt it, being this far from the ocean for this long probably drained her air bladders!
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>>50190554
Norals are the psychic headsquids.
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>>50190514

Little extra in your pocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rxbrPI9Jdk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6GByhL-XeI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVXvvakpb00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4h7OufbXW4

When you're making a bard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRNky9clbrc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIT3TqIZHic
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>>50190199
Currently playing a Dervish Defender Warder||Baleful Shadow Beguiler and I'm having a blast.
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>>50190554

I was thinking followers of Dionysus. Illithids?

>>50190559

>The coloration of these crystals define the look for each individual maenad, ranging from pale white to jet black, and many believe that the coloration is determined by their most powerful emotion.

Oh my I hope the emotion is lewdness
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>>50190573
So psionics is just psychic casting!
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>>50190603
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>>50190603
>yfw someone on the starfinder forums actually suggests "changing to psychic casting components" so that the sci-fi setting will be psionic 'without having to worry about debalancing like if you got rid of the good magic system'
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>>50190638
The worst thing is they probably will use psychic casting
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>>50190603
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Tell me about your weekend, friends. Do your sessions look comfy?
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>>50190501
>with the exception of, ah, Tuesday evening, which is about as far as I go
Fucking bullshit dude.

If you didn't want to say anything then you wouldn't have, but now you've said it so now you need to tell us.
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>>50190603

What's the difference between psionic and psychic casting? They sound like they're the exact same thing.
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>>50190673
Psionics is using power points (mana points from rpgs) to use effects. Psychic casting is just another fucking form of vancian casting.
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>>50190411
Guys: Where do you find character art for your character, and how do you find a mini for him?
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>>50190680
There's also strong thematic differences. Psychic casting relies on external connections and taps into sympathies and emotions that bind people to people, symbols to cultures, citizens to nations, and more. Psionic power is inwardly focused; it externalizes something inherent in the user.
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>>50190705
Yeah, but that's irrelevant because I never cared to learn the fluff of arcane casting under a different name.
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>>50190705

>Strong thematic differences
>That

Mhm, yeah.
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>>50190301
I mean, if you wanted chesty waifus, you just had to ask.
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>>50190699
>Guys: Where do you find character art for your character,

All over. I collect it. I have about 3 gigs worth here
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B52pEESRLwfBVU12SWp0MTJSWTA?usp=sharing

The rest comes from concept art for video games, here, lots of places.

>how do you find a mini for him?

I just use a close up of their face.
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>>50190673
Psionics uses Power Points, which can be likened to an MP gauge in games like Final Fantasy. It's also more internally-focused; you think that something should happen, and then it happens. As such it's kind of hard to affect other people or things beyond throwing them around or blasting them with bolts of brainpower.

Psychic Magic is more accurately labeled as Occult Magic; it has the trappings of late 1800s/early 1900s pseudoscience and paranormal belief like hypnotism or Ouija Boards and has connections to the spiritual plane. It also has the same general mechanics as Divine or Arcane magic, except in-regards to the components being different.
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>>50190723
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>>50190723
Speaking of big-titted character art, does anybody have any orcs or half-orcs of that sort. Been meaning to play a half-orc warlord, and still need to find character art for her.
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>>50190739
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>>50190723

Don't make me ask twice, anon.

Though I would like to say I was looking for characters people have actually played, not just material in your special folder!
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>>50190705
Psionics is also highly contrasted with psychic casting in that it's the same path of enlightenment and power that gods use - though they may not have used it before they ascended.

You're using the power available within you to force your will unto the universe; the difference being that a regular psion has just his own body producing such fuel, while even a lesser deity has tens of thousands of psy-batteries sending it worship energy every day.
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>>50190752
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>>50190751
Here you go anon!
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>>50190760
Closest I got for you, anon
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>>50190720
Cut me some slack anon, I just spent like seven hours on a Greyhound and got shit for sleep. Eloquence is somewhat beyond my grasp.

>>50190762
Indeed.
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>>50190751

Sorry friend, closest I've got is this Elven Steelfist Commando.
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>>50190776
You didn't take a plane? Dear lord man.
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>>50190099
>tfw it could easily have been Shelynite texts my Pure Legion aspirant tried to confiscate before getting exiled

Because who doesn't love awkward moments, right?
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>>50190784
>thinking that game design is good for your bank account or sanity
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>>50190776
Busses are hell for that.
When possible use the train. More legspace, less bumpy ride, easier to sleep in.

I dunno about the US but up here in Canada it's hella cheaper than the bus as well. We're talking a good 40%
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>>50190751
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What's the best skin walker variant for each race in your opinion?

For me I'm liking:
>elf
Werebat
>dwarf
Werebear
>halfling
Wererat
>human
Werewolf
>Orc
Wereboar
>hobgoblin
Werebat
>goblin
Wererat
>gnome
Wereshark
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>>50190816
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>>50190803
Yeah, here in Canada, when I made infrequent trips between provinces, I often found that it was only about 10% to 15% more expensive to take a plane than a bus, which is convenient because said plane would only take an hour to go between the places I was going, versus the eight hours a bus would go with, usually in the middle of the night with much worse conditions for travel (such as being extremely cold)
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>>50190831
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>>50190840
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>>50190842
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>>50190816
be cute. cuuuuuuuuuuute
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>>50190864
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>>50190766
Well, that's certainly... a thing. And weirdly enough, "Half-orc magical child" is only slightly less good than a human magical child. So there's that.

>>50190778
I've always sort of hated elves for some reason, but I appreciate the attempt.

>>50190870
Thanks for all of these, anon. It helps a lot.
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>>50190870
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>>50190870

AAAAnd i'm out
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>>50190864

He didn't ask for cute! He asked for huge knockers!

Have an actually cute piece that looks like it would work really well for a character.
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How does one go about making an effective bard?

I've been playing the game for years, and not oncve have I seen a bard that wasn't a waste of space. I'm downright certain the class is better than I've seen it played, but I can't for the life of me figure out how it's supposed to contribute outside of a few spells, which alchemists, wizards, and sorcerers could do better.
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>>50191022
There are multiple ways to play a bard. They do their best work as support/ranged damage. They can do decent area control and buffing, they struggle at debuffing but are at least decent at that as well.
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>>50188799
Ok /tg/ I have a question.
A noblewoman pays to have 1 of every potion made for her. Then drinks them all at once. What happens?
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>>50191052
She really needs to go to the bathroom later.
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>>50191052
>A noblewoman pays to have 1 of every potion made for her. Then drinks them all at once. What happens?

Some of the potions cancel each other out, most of them work as per intended.

She gets fucking plastered on the alcohol present in every potion, and winds up throwing up in a back alley like poor Aqua here >>50190765
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>>50191052
Miscibility rules!
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>>50191052

Is that a new character from NieR: Automata?
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>1st: Power Attack
>Human: Furious Focus
>3rd: Quick Draw
>Bonus: ???
>5th: Scarlet Throne Style
>7th: Scarlet Throne Dignity
>9th: ???

What should the last two feats be if I'm playing a [Warder 6 | Landsknecht 4]?
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>>50191088
I've heard good things about those rules
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>>50191241
Lunge can get pretty funny with Landsknecht's extra reach, and makes it easier to qualify for Never Outnumbered.

Advanced Study into an extra utility stance, or extra readied maneuver can never go wrong.

Alternately give up your bonus feat and become a Bushi to supercharge your maneuver recovery.
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Pummeling Style+ Dragon style+ Snapping Turtle style+ Djinni style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfa5VuTVN4 (?)
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>>50191052
Enlarged, Extended, Color Spray.
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>>50191360

From both ends
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>>50191052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Gx8hYi0hQ
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>>50191296

Lunge sounds like a whole lot of fun, I just might have to go with that.

Ooh, should I be going for Weapon Focus to get a little more bang out of Scarlet Throne Dignity?
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The way lunge is worded makes it seem like even natural attacks can have reach.
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>>50191549

they do
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>>50191398
Never go weapon focus, anon.
Don't do that to yourself.
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>>50191562
That's rather funny ; now I'm just imagining an orc or lizardfolk suddenly growing out their neck to bite someone.
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>>50191574
*Unless you're a warpriest with multiple natural attacks
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>>50191585
Its more them leaping forward, taking a nibble and jumping back really fast.

But yes very amusing
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>>50191604

Here's an example of lunge in action!
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>>50191641
Best seiba
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>>50190766
>I will never be able to play a Half-Orc Magical Child who wields a big ass axe because the archetype is wet shit

What's the point of living lads
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>>50191296
>>50191398
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdHX6WAfG9A&t=17m0s

This fight at 17mins (because 4chan doesn't like correctly jumping to time in embeded videos) is basically lunge and vital strike vs sunder line of feats.

I really wish there were 'school styles' like legend of the five rings, potentially getting greater bonuses to shit for being from a school.
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/pfg/, does your character want a family?
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>>50191916
No. All he wants is to find someplace he can call home.

After all, he can't go home again.
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>>50191916

>Family

She wants lots of kids.... five hundred of them. Babies everywhere.
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>>50191916
He does in a general sense, but hasn't exactly met anyone that makes him wanna go "let's put a dozen kids in her"
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>>50191916
Jel/'half-slime'/slime-descendent separated from her own people at a young age, she has no idea as to whether or not she breeds true and she kind of feels that she's an aberration.

Is very hesitant about children.

her race does breed true
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>>50191916
>that webm
It hurts.
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>>50191916

He already has a family, a wife and two daughters! They worry about him constantly, but they stay in touch with letters!

I started this campaign on Roll20 like three weeks ago, but I'm really liking it!
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>>50191936

Why's a girl that baby crazy out adventuring?
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>>50191983
How else are you supposed to make enough money to raise a family that large?
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>>50191916

He would like nothing better. Unfortunately, the world is full of horrible monsters, dark magics, and those who would use either or both to harm the innocent. So until the day comes that it isn't, he has work to do.
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>>50191916
He tried to just be a normal dude and start a normal family, but then he lost it all to a plague. Sulked for a while, then got his shit together and became an adventurer. Now he's got two daughters that are pieces of his own soul sliced off and put into their own bodies. One a mortal human, another a homunculus. He also has a crush on the party sorcerer that he's very embarassed about.
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>>50191989

That's a very good point. I wish this girl the best of luck on becoming the best mother she can be!
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http://pastebin.com/jH8jpzgx

4chan servers were acting up the other night when I posted these

What are peoples thoughts on these (summarized) house-rules?
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>>50191936

She better be an Elf or a Skinwalker (they have litters, right?) otherwise I don't see that happening.
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>>50191916

Last time I gave my character a family, one of the other PCs wound up killing his wife.
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>>50192039
You murdered the player in return, right?
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>>50192042

Oh absolutely, I wasn't going to be passive aggressive or sneaky about it.
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>>50191983

Well she's got a blessed womb and every kid she pops out gets slightly more powerful.

So she did the math, and by number 500, she'll have a birthed a god.
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>>50192056
That's uh... less cute and a bit hecked up.
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>>50192059

Let it be known, that intelligence is a "dump" stat for her.
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>>50192056
see now you've gone from an innocent young girl's dream of a long life with a loving husband and an arbitrarily-large number of kids she blurted out one day, and turned it back into creepy edgelord magical border-realm.
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>>50192065
that still doesn't help.
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>>50192071
>>50192056
>>50192078

Well she wanted a lot of kids, and a fortune teller foretold that she'd have lots of kids! She prayed everyday that she'd have lots of kids! So BAM the gods gave her a divine baby maker. Unfortunatly, there's a certain deity that likes messing with fertility. One former demon named Lamastu.

Realistically, she'd hit the minor god levels at around baby 30, and GOOD news everyone! She's already at kid 15! Bad news is they from Lamastu cultists.

So now she's going around trying to find those children, and bring them home so she can start a big happy family FOR REAL THIS TIME! Mutated kids and all!
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>>50192107
>yet more lamashtu monsterfucking cancerbeast crap

>Interest completely lost
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>>50192116
Would it have been better if i said (Insert apocalypse cult here?)
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>>50192107
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>>50191936
>>50192056
>>50192107
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Can we maybe stop going so fucking magical realm in these threads?

Particularly shit things like >>50192107

Do you want PFG banned? Cause this is how you get PFG banned.
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>>50192107
The only thing to do with any pregnancy even remotely related to anything lamashtu is to wait at the entrance of that vagina with a holy-enchanted flamethrower.
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>>50192159

Well to be technically, Its just the first 15 kids that are corrupted by lamastu, The divine womb is part of her Oracle mystery.
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I just wanted to start building an exiled Rahadoumi Cavalier. I never asked for this.
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>>50192176
Well it's a good thing seeing as Cavaliers are awful.
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>>50192184
Bollocks they are. They're solidly T4.
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>>50190732
That link is awesome dude. Maybe you could help me out:

I'm using unhindering shield to get some extra AC with a buckler, I was thinking of a male human in some heavy armor, wielding a sword one or two handed, with "extra" armor on one of his shoulders or arms. Does that make sense?
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>>50192184
No they arent
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>>50192192
Whether or not they're tier 4 it doesn't change that they're awful.
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>>50192192
>tier
>usefull way to describe a class
They are like a shitty version of a fighter. Don't play them.
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>>50192195
Awful how? They're competent at what they set out to do, that is, kill people dead. Also some Order Powers are just cool as shit.
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>>50192206
THe class comes with a videogame boss tier weak spot that when hit, drastically weakens your character. That's frustrating to DM for because the player feels like i'm being a dick when the enemies obviously shoot at the weaker of the two targets.
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>>50192223
Or when you can take your feature in places. Like many many dungeons or indoor areas.
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Guys: what is a good way to "gimp" my warpriest?

The rest of the party is kinda bad at optimization and I'm looking to perform more of a support role. I was thinkiing of just one or two hard rules that I can then optimize the fuck out of the rest of it.
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>>50192223
>>50192236
See, this is why you build your Cav as a switch-rider. The basic mount competency feats alongside a functional THW build, and Challenge everything.

You only lose a small amount of effectiveness in close quarters (and your Mount comes pre-packaged with the Guard trick so have your camel camp the entrance and spit on anything that tries to sneak up on you), and on open fields you wreck faces. Let's never mind how your Banner abilities work out really well.

Go Beast Rider so your mount can double as a flanking buddy.
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>>50192267
But basically any other class can do the same thing but better.
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>>50192223
Dude, Cavaliers are more than chargebeasts.

Fuck, I always trade out the damn mount cuz I don't wanna fuck around with it.

Challenge is great, Tactician is helpful to have, and Orders are super fun.
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>>50192273
>Smite-lite that works on anything
>built-in flanking buddy
>teamwork feats for everyone without wasting everyone else's feat slots
>Order abilities

Of all the non-Cavalier classes I can think of, only one Inquisitor archetype does even two of those things simultaneously.
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>>50192288
And it does it while having 6th level casting support.

No one is saying it's swashbuckler levels of bad, but it is certainly surpassed by most other classes due to some annoying mechanics and it's general power level.
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>>50192116
>>50192107

You know, if you actually did make it a random non-demonicmotheroffurrymutantgod cult, You might have had something compelling.

For instance, the childish desire to have a large healthy family, coupled with a divine "Exact words" blessing. Said character could give birth to chosen ones left and right.

A lot of religions would love to get their hands on her. Lamastu not withstanding. A cult or secret society could steal the super powered children (If not produce them) to further their unscrupulous desires.

Another thing that might have screwed with the concept is the lady herself wanting the kids because each subsequent child get stronger. Though probably a matter of pride on her part, shouldn't be the only reason she has kids. Icing on the cake for the joy of new life.

Take these into consideration... you sick fuck.
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>>50192311
>not swashbuckler levels of bad

Then why take issue with anon building one in the first place?
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>>50192330
I didn't.

I joined this conversation halfway though.

And would LOVE some help with: >>50192262
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Cavalier is one of those sad cases of PF
Cavalier is basically Fighter 2.0 Paizo made but people did not embrace the class for some reason
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>>50192351
Because mounted combat is an abomination in 3.x
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>>50192341
Oh. I suppose that's the sort of risk I take on an anonymous imageboard.

As to your Warpriest question, maybe you could restrict yourself to direct damage and direct healing spells? I honestly don't know, I've never played with the Warpriest's kit.
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Incidentally, I turbo-want to play a Constable Cavalier someday.

Inspire both myself and my allies with my badge, the ultimate symbol of THE LAW.

Just point at an example of CRIMINAL SCUM, shout APPREHEND THEM, then slam into 'em and tackle them to the ground.

Unfurl a map and hash out THE PLAN prior to a fight.

Constables man. Aces. And all they really replace is mount stuff. And Banner, but you get your BADGE which is very similar.
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>>50192379
i made a sheriff style paladin for my old west setting that operated like that.
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>>50192366
What exactly makes it so bad?
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>>50192317

Well, I'll admit, i sort of defaulted to Lamastu because i didn't want to add anything that forced the DM to write in a whole bunch of stuff just for me. Having an established god that deals with fucked up pregancy helps with the short hand as it were.


And its still early in the campaign, all the other characters know is that the character has a blessed reproductive system, and that she wants to bring her rebellious children home and start over from scratch, with more than a few additions to the mix. Possibly with someone dependable.... and makes a lot of money....
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>>50192408
it just doesn't work that great in the system is all
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>>50192412
Don't debase nep-nep with your degeneracy.
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>>50192421

I'll just go now.
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What would be the best gestalt with Synthesist Sumoner to make pic related

I considered Zerker cause she gets pissed off a lot, but that was presented as a negative and bad thing that made her fuck up

I guess I could always just take fighter? Any other ideas.
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>>50192440
Fighter or slayer
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>>50192440
Honestly?

Fighter is EXCELLENT gestalt material.

Combine it with Synthesist and you're gonna be a right terror.
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>>50192456
I'm less worried about strength and more trying to figure out the best feel.

>>50192453
true true.
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Are there any rules for playing by yourself?

I don't think i'm right for any group.

You know was was awesome? The AI cards From Kingdom Death. You drew a card and it told you exactly what to do with the monster's actions. I wonder if there is an AI system for pathfinder.
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>>50192474
>I don't think i'm right for any group.
I thought so too until just a little while ago.
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Man, looking back over Cavalier archetypes, a lot of them are really cool.

Even if Courtly Knight is kinda crud, Grand Boast is a great mental picture.

Daring General is 'I have an army'

Ghost Rider is friggin' Ghost Rider. Less worry about what happens to the horsie too.

I wish there was a non-companion version of Castellan, since it looks kinda neat. Maybe it's just the name that sounds neat. Ahh well.

>>50192458
Well Ryuko herself doesn't have or employ many particularly unique abilities of her own in fights. In most cases, it's either just beating the shit out of people or figuring out the specific WAY to beat the shit out of them.

So maybe Fighter, taking that 'I'm going to have these combat feats now' AWT (Whatever it was called)
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>>50192476

What changed?
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>>50192481
"Weapon Specialist (Ex) The fighter selects a number of combat feats that he knows equal to his weapon training bonus with the associated weapon group. The selected feats must be ones that require the fighter to choose a type of weapon (such as Weapon Focus and Weapon Specialization), and the fighter must have chosen weapons that belong to the associated fighter weapon group. The fighter is treated as having the selected feats for all the weapons in the associated weapon group that are legal choices for those feats. The fighter is also considered to have those feats with these weapons for the purpose of meeting prerequisites."?

Doesn't seem that good.
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>>50192498
Nah, I thought there was one that gave them the Brawler's featswapping. I might be mistaken though.
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>>50192505
Thats the martial master archetype, trades away weapon training altogether though
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>>50192494
I moved to a big city, then just gave up and stopped trying, but still forced myself to go to the local gaming store once a week to play catan or whatever. I found some people who fit me, and now we game weekly.

It took like three months, but I just let it happen and it did. It's funny how everything worked out once I stopped trying.

I just made myself get out every week and it figured itself out.
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>>50192509
Ew.

Maybe just the Barroom Brawler feat. Then the Abundant Tactics AWT so you can use it an extra number of times equal to your weapon training bonus.

Also, Barroom Brawler assumes you can only use it once a day, so doesn't have a proviso for what happens if you use it while it's still in effect.

So you could stack it up. And it's a move, so you could use it twice in one round if you wanted. If you used it in later rounds, the earlier ones expiring could cause the later ones to stop working due to failed prereqs though.

But still, not bad, all told.
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>>50192543
>Also, Barroom Brawler assumes you can only use it once a day,
>so doesn't have a proviso for what happens if you use it while it's still in effect.
>So you could stack it up.

How about we don't piss off the GM and use things that obviously weren't intended to be used?
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>>50192552
I don't think it's that bad. It's a move action per feat. If you use it twice in the first round, then that's a round you did nothing towards the cause of making shit dead.

And as mentioned, if you use it in LATER rounds to get deeper into a tree, then the earlier ones punking out will cancel out the later ones.
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>>50192579
Oh ok that sounds reasonable.
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Sooo, did WotR campaign take off or did the GM abandon everyone and farm their backstories for NPCs?
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>>50192474

Random generation, random generation random generation. Dont even let yourself know what's coming up next. Set up Event cards on the map, Write if its a trap, a monster, a treasure encoutner, ect... Then place them randomly about the map inbetween you and the "Goal". When you come up to the event card, and find out which it is roll randomly to see what kind of that event it is.
Roll 1d10 to see the trap
1d10 for monster
1d10 for treasure bundle ect

Then make up an AI roll table, Anywhere from 1d6 to 1d12, and give each result a tactic.

You might want to make different AI Tables for each monster you want to use.

1 Attack nearest target at range, If no target search for target, if no target found, full defense
2 Attack nearest target with melee, If no target search for target, if no target found, full defense
3 Fight nearest target defensively
4 Full defense
5 Withdraw to more advantageous position
6 Use special item, if already used reroll.
7 Ect.

Finally do NOT give yourself DMs fiat!
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>>50192587
didn't happen we were all abandoned
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>>50192543
why not just be a brawler?
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>>50192590
There there, anon ;_;

One day you'll find a game!
There's only a 10% chance it will be RuneRegent just statistically though
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>>50192590
How many people saw that coming?
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>>50192601
i will never find a game.
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>>50192588

That's dumb and bullshit

Just play actors reasonably.

No one is going to fight to the death or without greater-than-even odds unless they're morons.
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>>50192588
Prepare to find out what a fucking meat-grinder this game is to player characters without DM fiat keeping them alive.
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>>50192598
Well the character in question was to emulate Ryuko, who's a swordfighter, not a fistfighter. (Or close fighter or monkfighter)

Plus, AWTs are really nice.
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>>50192629
nothing says a brawler can't use a sword anon
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>>50192633
You can't brawl with a sword! Brawling is for punching people in the face in a bar!
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>>50192614
>>50192627

Some people find it hard to not metagame when you're the only player, anon.
>>50192590
I have a feeling Rise of the jade reagent will end up the same way. but we still keep trying like fools.
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>>50192639
ryuko does tho
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>>50192633
Brawlers' stuff works with Close, Monk, and Unarmed.

I mean you technically could use like. A Temple Sword or something.

But still. AWTs. Good stuff.

The Brawler archetype is better than Brawler Hybrid Class, fite me.
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>>50192651
you can't take AWT if you take martial master
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>>50192662
We're not TAKING Martial Master you goomba, we're taking Barroom Brawler and jacking up the times we can use it per day with Abundant Tactics. Try to keep up.

Hell if anything, we're probably taking Weapon Master. Ryuko doesn't exactly wear armor.
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>>50192671
thats a lot of move actions for one minute

And Ryuko doesn't wear armor because she's wearing Senketsu, aka, her Eidolon from the summoner half
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>>50192683
Yeah that's the point. No armor, so more focus on her singular weapon.

And in all practicality, you'd only use it twice at a time anyway. Spend a few seconds thinking about the situation, then jump back into it with new tactics. I seem to recall a bunch of standing about thinking about the situation while she panted and bled from getting the shit kicked out of her.
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>>50192671
>>50192683
Can use Barroom Brawler as a swift with Combat Stamina.
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>>50192697
i mean its a solution, i'm just not sure its that good

And I'm not sure how often it'd be used, generally i doubt they're gonna need that extra feat.
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>>50192698
Well then that's three uses you could cram into a single turn if you so chose. That's enough to nab an entire style line or get some really niche shit.
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>>50192718
You can also take the Warrior Spirit AWT, and use your standard to activate that, adding some +'s to your weapon and grabbing the Training enhancement, to lessen the dependence on BB uses
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>>50192716
Thing is, it's not that much of an investment cost, is what I'm saying. It's one feat for barroom brawler and then one for Abundant Tactics. And if she's a Weapon Master, then AWTs taken via bonus combat feat don't count against the limit of how often you can take them.

So two feats for 2-5 temporary feats per day. Or 4-7 with the dueling gloves.

>>50192725
True, but you do get a bunch of uses.
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>>50192741
doesn't the weapon master archetype trade away weapon training?
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>>50192752
It trades out normal weapon training, but it gets quicker-progression weapon training back, starting at 3rd level.
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>>50192752
They jiggle it around a little. They technically trade out weapon training, but they get it back in exchange for Armor Training.

So basically it comes in earlier, and only works on one type of weapon, not a weapon group.

It 100% works for AWTs though. Weapon Master got its own unique proviso saying that any AWTs they take via the feat using their bonus combat feats don't count against the normal limit of how often you can take that feat.

So Weapon Masters can get a LOT of AWTs.
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>>50192760
its kinda rules lawyer-y to claim thats the same thing as the normal fighter weapon training.
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>>50189792
Hobgoblin fag pls go
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>>50192768
It's called Weapon Training, it does the same thing as weapon training, it's talked about in things like the AWT feat as like it's weapon training.

I don't know what else to tell you.
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>>50192766
where's that proviso?
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>>50192780
what i mean is i think it counts for the feats, but i'm not sure it can be swapped out for AWTs as per usual, because then he'd just get AWTs and lose nothing.
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>>50192781
It's in the AWT feat itself.

>Special: Fighters that have the weapon master archetype can select this feat beginning at 4th level. The benefits of a weapon master's advanced weapon training options apply only to his selected weapon rather than all weapons in the same fighter weapon group, and he can't select the weapon specialist advanced weapon training option. A weapon master can select this feat as a bonus feat; if he does so, it doesn't count for the purpose of the requirement that it can be taken at most once per 5 fighter levels.
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>>50192795
ah, neat.
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>>50192639
That means Brawlers can never go adventuring outside of bars, taverns, inns, and lodges.
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>>50193098
its true they can't
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>>50190167
Missy, get ready, because you will be holding the shit out of that hand.
When Shelyn is around, loving is srs business.

>>50192184
Mounted combat is the issue imo.Cavaliers are okay. Personally I just use the daring champion for a somewhat better swashbuckler.

>>50192639
You hold a bat, then you punch people in the face with your other hand!
Or you know, you pull one of the weird moves the little guy in Streets of Rage used with weapons.
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>>50188977
So we're using background skills. I'm playing an unchained human rogue and invested up to 14 int. I also am spending my FCB on it.

I have 18 dex and 14 charisma.

So I have 12 skill ranks per level to play with I am thinking of going with the following:
>appraise
>bluff
>diplomacy
>disable device
>disguise
>intimidate
>knowledge (local)
>perception
>sense motive
>sleight of hand
>stealth
>use magic device

I could drop my charisma down to 10 and lose the charisma skills except for UMD. Then bump my wis (it's only 12). Then I grab anlther knowledge skill, maybe spellcraft, escape artist, and survival.

What are must haves what should I drop?

Also what should I skill unlock?
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>>50193365
Why is this in reply to the post it is in reply to?
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>>50193395
I didn't mean to quote a post, that was my mistake. Sorry.
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>>50192780
unfortunately that means little, due to some other errors here and there.

For example on DSP's side you've got the Aegis and the Aegis...
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>>50193408
My favourite is the Gambler by RAW qualifying for the caveat on the Energy blast line of powers:

>Special: A kineticist does not need to select an energy type for this power when he gains psionic focus. He may choose the type of damage at the time the power is manifested.

When it was meant for kineticist psions.

I wonder if the final pdf ever addressed that.
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Hi fellow anons, any advice on playing a TN or CG cultist of Yig? I think the idea of a pretty decent and functional character who is also an adept of a great old one has merit, and from what I read in the writeup and remember from Lovecraft Yig among the few who won't be particularly disruptive to the party. I am thinking of using an inquisitor, zealot vigilante, or a serpent shaman druid.

Also, is there any way to get poison fangs on a constrictor snake companion? I want something that is both big and venomous.
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>>50193467
... Oh right.

Cuz Kineticist is... huh.

See this is what happens when you call a class different just because of a choice you made.

Like Wizards getting noted down as Necromancers or Enchanters. You're all friggin' wizards, stop trying to be special!
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>>50193494
In DSP's defense they didn't expect Paizo to do a heel face turn and shamelessly steal and whitewash psionics, but still, hilarious.
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>>50193509
Yeah, but they still shouldn't have gone along with that bum naming scheme they use for wizards.

Shoulda just said like 'a kineticist psion'

Or 'a psion with the kineticist discipline'
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>>50193491

Sort of like that,
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>>50193522
>>50193509
Well we do the same thing irl.

A doctor who specializes in feet is a Podiatrist

A doctor who specializes in hears is a Cardiologist

A doctor who specializes in children is a Pediatrist.

etc etc.


The evoker, enchanter, etc thing worked find because those terms just didn't come up anywhere else in the game.

This was true for Psionics too, until Paizo decided they were going to steal it.
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>>50193545
Yeah but if you're referring to a class, you use that class's gosh darned name!
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>>50193545
>paizo
>stealing psionics

Yeah its not as if DSP stole psionics from wizards in the first place

Lets not make a moral argument about that.
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>>50193545
Just because the word isn't already in use doesn't mean you should just go about willy nilly using them!

We gotta fucking future-proof here and there's only so many gosh danged words!
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>>50193571
>Yeah its not as if DSP stole psionics from wizards in the first place
Well to be fait that was a port.

Paizo basically said "here's something totally different" but were going to take all the psionic words and terminology that was used.
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>>50193571

Parapsychologists STOLE the terms from DSP back in the early 1900s, DSP has been trying to reclaim the terms ever since but jerks like WotC and TSR and Paizo kept misappropriating them until now
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>>50193604
So what?
>>
what race would ryuko be

would she be a changeling? Because her mom is a bitch? :^)
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>GM decides your character picks through cryptic non obvious questions
>Your characters ends a mess with features that don't synergize at all, that overlap, contradict themselves, etc
Why so many Gms are afraid of players having a voice?
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>>50193655

This to be quiet honest.

3e psionics was MASSIVELY different from 2e psionics. 3.5 psionics was fairly different from 3e psionics. 4e psionics was very different from 3.5 psionics. Pathfinder psionics is very different from either.
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>>50193680
>GM decides character picks

This was your first problem
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>>50193692
Thank you Captain Obvious, once again you state what we all know.
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>>50193698
You're welcome

why are you in that game

what purpose

You're not playing pathfinder you're playing that GM's novel
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My DM just allowed us to use any race and class on the SRD. You fa/tg/uys got any cool ideas I can steal?
Bit overwhelmed at the possibilities.
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>>50193715
what do you want to play

just give us a general idea.
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>>50193703
I'm, well, was, not going to appear for the second session. I stated my complaints to him and he just spouted "hurr powergamer durr" because now making your character yourself with stuff that actually works and isn't picked randomly throwing a dice or whatever is being a powergamer.
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I am thinking of playing Aasimar cursed with weredemon curse
Any ideas how to do that?
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>>50193721
I'm usually the support guy, so I guess any support or healer theme.
Also like to take advantage of some of the weirder races, but I can't bring myself to legitimately play an ogre on account of memes.
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>>50193731
jesus fucking christ.
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>>50193734
Can't go wrong with a bard

play whatever race sounds cool
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>>50193680
How dare you to try to derail his precious story with your free will?! Also did you chose how to be in real life? no, right, so your character also shouldn't.
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>>50193734
Be a Vitalist
The only class good at healing with interesting healing mechanics
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>>50193724
well don't show up

fuck that DM he's a retard
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new thread

>>50193841
>>50193841
>>50193841
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>>50193734

The bard or its pseudo-barbarian cousin the skald are both good support. There is a bard-like cleric called the evangelist, which also works quite well. For a skill support build, I think the investigator is also very cool, but it takes a while to ramp up, A wayang investigator/spy can be pretty awesome imo.

For a healer, well, it is hard to go wrong with a cleric or oracle, and there are a few others that do a good job of it too. I would go for an oracle or a healer witch, because as good as the cleric is it strikes me as rather bland. If you want a somewhat atypical healer, you can try a wyrwood witch or a gathlain life/nature/wood oracle (life is the best healer, but any oracle can heal decently).
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>>50193731

Hmm.... maybe a variant moontouched barbarian, or just a bloodrager with the appropriate bloodline?

You could also have a class or PrC that comes with a dual identity or transformation - master chymist alchemist, brute vigilante (just talk to your DM to, for the love of cthulhu, reduce the DC on that infernal will save) , maybe also the experimenter vigilante with minor modifications.
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