Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1160: Melted Ice Cream Edition

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>>50080458
To be fair, anon, Dabbler is literally a jumper.

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>>50080497
>Melted Ice Cream
WHY WOULD YOU LET IT GO TO WASTE LIKE THAT!?

>>50080508
Whatever do you mean, anon?

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>>50080497
Hey /jc/, tell us about a time you totally derailed a setting.

>>50080510
Melted ice cream is wasted ice cream anon

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>>50080508
His fridge malfunctioned and he didn't have a substitute?

>>50080515
What are those floating plates on his left shoulder?

>>50080533
I...think they're from Deadman Wonderland?

>>50080506
Is there any way to make tech that teleports back to your warehouse?

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>>50080531
That poor bastard

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>>50080497
Letting ice cream melt is a waste and a crime.

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>>50080515
I showed up as an Angel in Person of Interest. Plot got derailed real quickly after that.

>>50080533
>>50080542
Those look like Shiro's Original Sin.

>>50080430
>almost died in the first encounter
Vehemence was fucking bastard who grew stronger through violence occurring in his vicinity. Something so scary that even Dabbler, with decades of experience fighting and learning and exploring and beating the asses of deities, took a step back once she realized what was up.

And Maxima was trying NOT to kill him. Because, you know, PR is a thing. She made it very clear that should could have killed him, but then he pulled a new power out of his ass and beat her over the head with it. Normally crippling/mortally wounding an enemy takes the fight out of them.
It should be noted that when he had her pinned, he wasn't hurting her besides bruising her neck as he attempted to strangle her. She dumped every spare bit of energy into durability and was simply no longer was strong enough to push him away, when he was pulling new powers out of his ass left and right.

Vehemence was only able to break her nose and bruise her neck, with all his strength. She vaporized one of his arms and dropped a bridge on him.
If his power was static he'd have been toast.

>>50080458
You mean when she tried to punch Dabbler, but Dabbler threw up a ward? No real context there. We know Dabbler's decent with magic, but we don't know how strong the ward was. And there's no way Maxima was legit trying to hurt Dabbler anyway.
Or are you talking about how Maxima gets flustered by Dabbler's lewdness? Because that'd work against a lot of people regardless of how powerful they are.

>>50080462
Dabbler said it was an ability she'd only ever heard of warrior demons having. It made them nigh-unstoppable once they got going.

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>>50080551

>>50080531
I now need the Sea Salt Ice Cream from Kingdom Hearts.

>>50080549
I don't eat ice creambecause I don't have shit taste.

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>>50080555
>stalemate
No, I'm talking about pic-related. Of course we don't know the context, but still.

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>>50080556
I have absolutely no love for anyone in RWBY except Neo. (Granted it's practically standard policy to derail the plot as far as I can tell now) Don't listen to what anyone says about Yang or Cinder, especially if it comes from a demon. Demons are notorious liars.

God if somebody was so kind to make the Tales of Zestiria jump (as fucking crapshoot as that setting was). Edna makes me gguuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>50080566
Obvious bait is obvious.

>>50080577
>Context
Most important part really. We know Dabbler has access to a lot of magic and tech, meaning she gets a lot better with prep time to get spells and weapons and so on ready and precast/used. With lots of prep time and all her stuff ready and available could she draw with Maxima? Most likely. If Maxima decided to go for her with no warning given? I doubt it.

>>50080582
>Neo
Why? I've always wondered. What's so good about someone who has basically near zero character shown? Is it just that she's cute?

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>>50080506
> If I let go of something, it automatically teleports back to my lab.
That sounds extraordinarily inconvenient, actually.
> Oh good my coffee's ready. I'll just set my gun down and pour myself a GOD DAMN IT

>>50076132
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>>50080589
>Why?
It's because she has the best voice-acting.

>>50080556
>>50080582
Nope, correct answer is Velvet, the Tali of RWBY

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>>50080597
Well, /obviously/ you wouldn't put it on everything, anon.

>>50080608
I disagree, but I am incapable of finding fault in your taste

>>50080615
Holy shit that tearing.

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>>50080604
>spoiler
I'll fite you.

>>50080589
I like blank slate characters because they give me more to work with in terms of "expanding room" goes. Characters like the main quartet are developed enough that I don't really feel like interfering for the most part, but with side characters like Neo I can see a lot more opportunities to actually interact with her, and "discover" things about her so to speak.

That, and she's mute too, so there's the inherent conflict between my main jumper (who can't communicate properly to save his life already and has a really bad tendency to play pranks on his companions sometimes stressing relationships) and a mute girl who is most likely just as troublesome, if not more so. I like that sort of clash in personalities.

With Yang it was just "Shit she's trying to kill me after one prank - IT WAS JUST ONE CAN OF HAIR SPRAY." It wasn't nearly as amusing as the long years spent trying to figure out how to communicate properly with this mute girl. (After convincing her to join in a not so pleasant manner, main jumper wasn't much of a technology tinkerer at the time, so fixing her with tech wasn't going to fly.)

Anyone know good genetic engineering perk that is not from Rick and Morty ?

>>50080608
Velvet's not bad I guess, but if I had to pick from that team I'd go for Coco instead. ...Heck after the terrible first chain with Raven, Coco would be a godsend.

>>50080643
Geneforge, obviously, as well as Kamen Rider, Skullman, Generic Creepypasta (Cultist capstone is genetic engineering mixed with magic), Medial and Biology Focus from Worm (technically a power but whatever), and I think Animorphs?

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What /type/ of drawbacks do you find most interesting?

>>50080634
I admit Nora is awesome, however I think her energy level would wear me down eventually. I'd have to put a knock out spell or something on her to get some peace and quiet.

>>50080664
Thanks.

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>>50080677
It says a lot about Justice when his harem is already that big, and he has Nora on top.

>>50080667
Drawbacks that add story to the jump. Like Skull Man's Battle of Black Ghost drawback, or the DeSu 2 600/800cp drawbacks. They're more then just enemies you have to fight, it's a story of its' own. Of course, I really like scenarios for that same reason, so...

>>50080687
Oh, and I think there's a drawback/scenario reward in the Lost Valley jump that gives you alien genetic engineering knowledge/tech for the creation of monsters/kaiju?

>>50080643
DUNE has some good options.

>>50080687
Pretty sure the Zerg chapter of Starcraft should have something for genetic engineering.

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>>50080662
Coco is pretty awesome

>>50080745
She's has appreciable fashion sense, I'll say that much. I've worn the same fuggin' coat for decades.

okay so ive puzzled over every link in the OP but i have no idea what the fuck this IS

how do i play?

>>50080789
Go to the drive. Find a jump that you like, or go find Pokemon in the first folder. Play it like a CYOA, then go to another jump and repeat the process until you're satisfied.

>>50080745
Cute, but not my type.

>>50080789
See >>50080815
Writefag if you feel like it, roll for the results if you feel like it, go nuts. It's an imagination game.

>>50080789
it's a Series of CYOAs, unlike most CYOAs the builds from the different jumps accumulate for the same character so you can combine things from different universes.

Uh, what's this Great Game jump in the Jumps with Folders section? I don't remember it being posted.

Are there any ways other than Sacrificial Bestowment for me to give my powers to my companions or vice versa?

>>50080865
it was,more of it is coming.

>>50080789
You do one CYOA, then you take that character and do another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and anoth-

You get the picture.

>>50080865
It's Part 1 of the Elder Scrolls Gauntlet that Cool Cats Don't Trip was making.

>>50080873
>>50080893
Oh, okay. I just didn't remember it being posted, so I was a little confused.

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>>50080667
Drawbacks that make for interesting stor-
-what this guy >>50080690 said.

Basically, things where the Jumper has to act and achieve something, rather than sit and suffer.

A Dude Who Can't Be Killed hunting me down is something not particularly interesting, because I don't really have to do anything but survive.
Having to gather a super squad of cape misfits and save the world is.

Having no companions is not particularly interesting.
Receiving a quest to rescue your waifu from a dragon is (or rescuing a dragon from your waifu, whatever).

Being stuck in prison for the first half of your jump until your companions bust you out is not particularly interesting.
Starting your jump at the bottom of Deathtrap Dungeon and having to get out is.

That said, not all drawbacks have to be interesting. A difficulty raiser is okay, too, so long as there's some variety.

>>50080506

I kind of vaguely recall a perk that protects stuff on a jumper from being stolen, or something like that. Maybe that would be relevant to >>50080544


Anyone remember such a perk, and what jump it is from?

>>50081111
FFTA has unlootable, but since that requires you to have the item on hand it's kind of redundant. Maybe one of the isekai/dungeon crawl jumps would have a perk like that?

>>50081111
Unlootable from FFTA, I think.
The upgrade to Attired Appropriately in Otoyomegatari (Bride Stories) can prevent people stealing your items of clothing, but doesn't work on other things.

>>50080515
I use Universal Canon from Lone Wolf to scout out a setting before I really go to work. Most notably I used it in Naruto to figure out who all the key players were before things got insane. Then I spent a few nights using teleportation, time stops, and various other bits of chicanery to put me in a position where all of the protagonists and antagonists were alone. Once alone, I drained them of their Fortune Energy, Binbougami style. That gave me enough juice and time to work to go around, collecting and destroying all the supernatural, planet busting secret technique scrolls I could find.

Then. THEN. I reintroduced martial arts. Normal martial arts.

So, long story short, I became a villain in order to rerail the plot: I made a show that was supposed to be about ninjas actually be about ninjas, not god-powered shonen capes. Pretty happy with how that turned out.

>>50081182
>Some Technique scrolls being removed means no one knows ninja magic anymore
You really don't know how this show works.

So, /jc/, I have a question for you; which is more likely to get me kill if I take it as a first jump: Dwarf Fortress, or Chrono Trigger? DF is it's own special little brand of messed up, but CT seems fairly dangerous itself, and there's always Lavos to deal with there.

>>50081213
Yeah but CT is a JRPG that has a definite resolution doesn't it, versus Dwarf Fortress where dying is essentially part of the fun as it were.

>>50081198
>t. Asshurt Fanboy

>>50081245
At least Obliviate them or something. They don't need to have the scrolls sitting around to use the techniques, and can in fact write a good number of them down from memory if they have to.

>>50081198
Anon, I don't think he knows how humans work. Removing some scrolls won't stop people knowing techniques they already do. He's just salty about the series, probably didn't even watch it.

>>50081265
I don't remember anyone really using scrolls at all past a certain part of the manga.

>>50081289
The only technique scroll I remember at all was the one in chapter 1. They use them for sealing and summoning a few times but I don't remember any technique scrolls afterwards.

>>50081265
>anon at the library
>"Sir, you can't check out all those books at once"
>"HAHA! Now nobody will remember how to do elementary sums!"

This is funny to me

>>50081289
>>50081296
To be fair, destroying every scroll in the world (which might not even be possible) would have a pretty major impact on the setting. It would be like burning every book in the world. Obviously, the other anon's belief that it would prevent anyone from using/learning ninjutsu is hilariously wrong, but it would definitely make teaching/learning it harder. Plus, there might be some techniques that would be lost entirely if no one knows them or the person who does know them can't teach it for whatever reason.

>>50081182
You do know that the ninja as punch wizard trope is one well supported by Japanese folklore, right? Naruto's take on ninja is just as much "real ninja" as the stealthy assassins you favor.

>>50081360
Well, to a certain extent it'd make teaching harder. The problem here is that most ninja learning is passed down directly from teachers to students, by word and action, rather then written down and given to them. I think the majority of ninja jutsu, stuff they use on missions and in combat, is going to survive just fine. It's things like Medical or Fuinjutsu I reckon would suffer most, since they're the most complex and heavily dealing with seals.

>>50081230
Eh, fair point.

>>50081369
That is true, though genjutsu would also suffer greatly I imagine, given that it seems to be much more difficult to learn and requires a lot of practice, knowledge, and skill. I'd say that while masters like Kurenai would still be able to teach genjutsu it would much more difficult for other ninja who are trying to learn it.

>>50081413
So it would hinder ninjas' use of stealthy and tricky illusion magic, forcing them to rely more on their flashier techniques. What irony.

>>50081413
Not sure. Genjutsu seems so rare that it might be even more of a mentor-student thing, but how much that is reality and how much is 'genjutsu is pretty boring to the average viewer, let's keep it down a lot' is unclear. Probably more the latter though.

>>50081443
This is great though.

>>50081443
The irony is indeed amusing.

>>50081485
See, I'd imagine at least part of it would require reading and studying, given that genjutsu affects the senses as well as being used as a psychological weapon. At least part of it would require study into the senses, how they work, and ways to trick or manipulate them, not to mention psychology books and of course the techniques for chakra control and how to apply that to genjutsu as a whole. Of course, the mentor-student thing still applies, I just assume that it would be more difficult to teach/learn it without scrolls. Then again, the masters could always just write it all down again, though that would take time and it's doubtful they'd remember everything, so a lot of theory and research could be lost still.

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>>50081413
Genjutsu was already pretty worthless unless you were from the Uchiha clan. Everyone and their mother recognizes the signs of Genjutsu and were able to counter it.

>>50081559
Wait a minute.

Naruto Ninjas are basically wizards, right? And they use and shape and release their inner energy...

What about wandless casting?

>>50081573
They already don't use them?

I'm not sure what you mean to lead into.

>>50081573
What about it? Wandless Casting removes your reliance on external focusing devices, which ninjas don't use.

>>50081756
>>50081793
Fuvk. Thought it would let me bypass doing handsigns

>>50081934
Even Madara had to use handsigns. There's only a few jutsu that don't and those are mainly just raw chakra manipulation or a jutsu that someone specialises in to crazy levels, like Sasuke and the Chidori given it and related jutsu make up about a third of the jutsu he uses.

>>50081934
You want something like gestureless casting from Anima.

>>50081950
How does Madara compare against Hao?

>>50081991
Fuck if I know, I couldn't give a shit about Shaman King.

>>50081991
Which Madara? Be specific.

>>50081950
The Chidori actually does need handsigns, it's just that Sasuke and Kakashi got so good at it that they could skip them. Handsigns are an aid, but not strictly necessary. Someone really skilled can cut down on the number they need or even avoid them entirely. Like, the Water Dragon Bullet normally takes twenty-three signs, but Tobirama can do it with only three. And Hashirama was good enough at medical jutsu that he could heal himself just by thinking about it. The reason Madara still needed handsigns for most of his techniques is just because he was using such ridiculously high-level stuff that even his ability to simplify the techniques wasn't enough to cut them out entirely.

>>50081991
Depends on which Madara. Memes aside, how strong he is depends on which version you're talking about. Pre-death Madara is about the same level as Hao but not Hao with the Spirit of Fire, zombie Madara is stronger and has infinite chakra and might be able to fight Hao with the Spirit of Fire. Revived Madara would probably smack Hao around even with the Spirit of Fire, and once you get into Sage Madara it quickly becomes a stomp. However, Hao with the Great Spirit is a whole other beast. I'd say you'd need Sage Madara with both his eyes and the Divine Tree absorbed to fight that, given that the Great Spirit is the spirit of the planet itself.

>>50081991
Before or after Hao becomes the Shaman King? That pretty much determines who stomps who in that fight.

Which version of Madara doesn't matter because all of them are vastly stronger than normal Hao and vastly weaker than Hao in the previously mentioned spoiler.

>>50082014
Let's see...

I'd say Edo Tensei Madara or perhaps the ressurected Madara with one of his eyes and without being Ten Tails jinchuriki?

Spirit of Fire Hao

>>50081991
I don't really remember, it's been a long time since I've read Shaman King. But Hao was pretty powerful, strong enough to tank the spiritual equivalent of a direct nuclear blast, and return fire in kind. Then again, Madara's about that strong, too, and only gets stronger from there. Hao could probably match him once he gets the Great Spirit, but Spirit of Fire isn't strong enough to keep up.

>>50082037
>>50082033
>>50082032

Important thing to remember is that Hao, both in manga and anime, could control five elements. It wasn't limited to changing element of his Spirit of Fire, he was almost a bender and could also affect Wood.

And remember that OS have higher durability against non OS attacks

>>50082024
Yes, that's basically what I said anon.

>>50082035
I'd say Madara is stronger. Keep in mind, the first could create meteors and throw them, could absorb chakra, and could go Perfect Susanoo and slice mountains with casual ease, not to mention uber Shinra Tensei could level cities in the hands of the much weaker Pain. Revived Madara is even stronger, even being able to stomp all nine Biju at the same time.

>>50082047
And that's great, but so could Madara. Also, again keep in mind that by the final arc the big players were tossing around nuclear scale attacks like candy. Hell, if we were using Saga Madara I'd point out that he started tossing around small nations during his final fight with Naruto and Sasuke.

>>50082047
That's...really not that important anon. Madara can control all those elements too.

Okay but no seriously Shaman King anime at the very least was better than manga in one aspect.

Manta/Morty breaking out of possession by Oversouling Mosuke in his laptop and doing it again in Finale against the Oni. The ones made by Hao

>>50082047
He changed his spirit to whatever element he needed at the time because he is just that OP, it is still just one spirit and he sticks to fire most of the time (probably because that is the strongest due to it being the natural state of the spirit).

Also since Chakra is spiritual in nature the Preta path would most likely translate well in that fight, good luck pre GS Hao.

>>50082066
And the ending. I just couldn't sympathise with Hao all that much. I get he went through some shit, but what he did in response was even worse, and plenty of people suffered worse, at his hands no less, and still became good people. So him winning was pretty disappointing, especially since it seemed so obvious that he would given the huge power difference.

In light of the recent BS regarding Grrl Power I have to say, I really want Achilles power.

>>50082075
The thing is, changing element of his spirit only changed how much of the element he could control and how strong it was.

He could control elements without any sort of spirit

>>50082096
Absolute Invulnerability? Yeah, seems 'neat'.

>>50082097
Fair point but I still don't see him getting through the Preta Path.

>>50082106
Swap to a solid element, have the Spirit bombard Madara with long-distance attacks.

>>50082103
Most of the top end durability perks are essentially just part of the generic brute package. Achilles looks like his power could be an entirely durability based capstone.

>>50082096
I like his power write up "Proper, Aggravating Invincibility" is such a fun descriptor to have.

>>50082121
Gosh, inter jump balance. Even neater.

>>50082121
Yeah, and be a completely broken one too. Actual, Real Deal Invincibility is a bit too insane anon.

>>50082114
He absorbs physical attacks two if they are formed from spirit energy. Normal earth or water attacks still wouldn't work, Hao would need to grab some existing mundane crap and hit Madara with it for that to work.

>>50082061
Were there any Villages (Hidden or otherwise) left standing for the protagonists to return at the end or was the whole continent basically a smoking crater?

>>50082144
All of them remained. The final fight took place in Earth Country I think, which is pretty much a gigantic wasteland. The countries Madara ripped into the sky were just minor ones that only came up in Filler or a few character's backstories. The Juubi does blast gigantic craters all over the continent but I don't think any major villages are hit.

The more people sperg about their favorite shounen, the more my indifference magically transmutes into a tangible hate. It's like the difference between knowing earthworms exist and watching someone chuck some in your face.

Not seinen, for some reason. Blame! sounds metal as fuck, but this powerlevel shit's retarded.


>>50082132
Not him, but at the risk of tempting fate-that name practically SCREAMS this isn't actual complete invincibility and there is, well, a weakness somewhere. Right?

Besides, from what people said about other people consider high-end supers here actual invincibility seems a bit...disproportionate.

>>50082132
The Toonforce power in Worm makes you completely unkillable by anything short of powerful psychics or conceptual effects. Not much different.

>>50082141
I'm aware. But Oversouls can generate real matter that isn't a simulacrum made of spiritual energy. It takes more furyoku to do, but Hao's got plenty to spare. His earth, water or wood attacks would go right through the Preta path's defense.

>>50082158
Well, all Achilles has is that invulnerability. He can't do anything else. So in the series it's balanced because his role in fights is just to jump in the way of attacks, often get knocked way the fuck out of the way, and then have to spend the next five minutes running back to the battlefield.

>>50082158
No, everything in the series indicates that he is actually Invincible. Everyone refers to him as such and fully believes he is and this is a series that usually points out holes in powers. If there is a weakness or a hole, it hasn't shown up in canon yet.

Also, you're an idiot if you don't think seinen gets into exactly the same arguments, just less visible because it's less popular. Or worse, you can get 'morality arguments'. The Berserk ones are particularly awful. Heck, at the very least I've seen plenty of people argue about GBEs here.

>>50082158
None of us really like Naruto, anon. It's like hatefucking or watching a brutal accident where people get dismembered. We just couldn't turn away.

>>50082161
You can be knocked unconscious still and then killed. Worm is also getting updated.

>>50082132
Invulnerability is not invincibility nor vice versa, many jumpers already cannot be harmed by physical means for a variety of reasons.

Also he is only invulnerable in terms of his home setting, he has never stared down a GBE or any thing ridiculous like that and many of the more esoteric threats a jumper might face would probably ignore his physical resilience.

It is not overpowered in the setting and it isn't op enough to be banned for interjump balance reasons.

>>50082178
>Worm is also getting updated
This is going to be one of the single largest shitstorm of the year, at the very least.

>>50082184
Ah, you're one of those 'it only counts for stuff in that setting' twats and 'things work how I say they do, not anyone else including the creators' twits. Shoo will you?

>>50082184
Funny that I mention the GBE being used in arguments here and only 2 posts later, voila.

>>50082184
I don't know, his character profile says that he's withstood attacks that should have reduced him to loose quarks. I think he can probably tank a GBE. It's not like the GBE has any special durability-ignoring power, it's just ludicrously strong.

>>50082144
Mostly everything is intact, but there is a lot of damage done. Half of the shinobi/samurai alliance is killed off even before the final battle with Obito/Madara/Juubi. This is not to mention the cities that got nuked, the (admittedly minor) countries that got torn up, and people who were psychologically damaged by the Infinite Tsukyomi.

>>50082186
Everyone could just... not, you know?

>>50082184
Okay. Have to make sure the jump specifies you only get enough durability to block a magic sword with your eyeball then. Because if we're going by feats, that's basically all he's done. Except he did get hit with a laser once.

I'm sure massively nerfing it from what the setting considers it would satisfy everyone's complaints about it being OP anyway.

If you guys want to be invincible, get the fiat-enforced invincible item from SAO, then get the ability from Claymore that lets you temporarily absorb an item for its properties. Absorb it, then just spit it back out when you want to train or improve yourself somehow.

>>50082211
>Fiat enforced
You mean time locked, including any moving parts. Like all the moving bits in your body/being. What a horrific death that'd be.

>>5008221
Pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to absorb it. It's not just invulnerable, it's completely unalterable. Fusing it with yourself would be an alteration.

>>50082158
To be fair, you could say the same thing about comics and video games. Power levels are just a thing we have to deal with now. As someone who was with Naruto from the beginning, I actually didn't like how ridiculous everything was at the end. It used to be that half of the fights were strategy and figuring out how the weaknesses in the enemy's technique/defense.

>>50082190
>Low level cape shit super durability tested against nukes at best can resist a fucking GBE.
No.

>>50082200
A nuke can do that and a GBE carves massive holes in materials that simply ignores those.

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>>50082211
"Hey, great, I'll become invincible by absorbing the property of being frozen in time, there's no way this could possibly go wrong!"

>>50082178
What's getting nerfed?

>>50082211
>>50082218
time locked also means you wouldn't be able to spit it back out. now if you went with the one in samurai Jack and then imported that as your body in undertail and then picked up. This is in fact my final form.

>>50082232
Something something how much can you move in the frozen time something something.

>>50082227
>Used to be
Since when? That started dropping off by the Wave mission. After that, it only really happened when Shikamaru was in the fight with a few exceptions like Neji vs spider guy. After Part 2 it's only Shikamaru's fights like that.

>>50082229
Yes yes, no one can trump your baby. I'm sure the people calling it OP are happy if it's nerfed to nukes anyway.

>>50082235
Nothing, Worm anon is clarifying that some particularly stupid power wanks are bullshit, buffing a few of the weaker powers, and adding some new ones to fill the roll table.

>>50082218
>>50082226
Fine then. Get Thanatos, kill Alexandria or the Siberian for their quantum invulnerability, use Real Eater to change Thanatos from a projection to a form you can change into or something, and voila.

>>50082088
Although gotta be fair Great Spirit OS looks more intimidating than yellow SoF

>>50082236
Or get the weapon that can't be broken as long as your resolve/willpower isn't, then get that perk from Lightbringer that gives you infinite willpower.

>>50082251
Well nukes are the standard for durability.

>>50082257
Neither is really total invulnerability. We know Alexandria isn't because Siberian beats her and in all likelihood Siberian also fails to something, probably Sting at least.

>>50082268
B-b-b-b-but thats not demonstrated in the series! You can't have an infinite! That's the wrong way to play the game!

>>50082248
Not necessarily. You had the fight with the Rain ninja, where Team 7 faked defeat in order to lure the real ones out. You had Naruto vs Neji, where he planted a clone underground to sucker punch the exhausted prodigy. And there was the fight with Gaara, where Naruto planted bombs on Gaara's transforming state and then when he and Gamabunta transformed into Kurama in order to grab Kurama so Naruto could punch Gaara and wake him up.

>>50082272
True, but to be fair, you're not likely to run into someone with a Sting effect or someone with the "wavelength" of invulnerability.

>>50082229
>A nuke can do that
No it doesn't. A nuclear weapon reaches temperatures of fifty million to one hundred and fifty million degrees Fahrenheit. The dissociation temperature of atomic nuclei is (on average) ten billion degrees Fahrenheit.

There is no such thing as true invulnerability, there is always something stronger or some bullshit that simply bypasses a defense.

>>50082257
That just means it takes more energy than a Shard has to access to in order to hurt you. Which is admittedly super durable, but there are lots of things in the chain that can top it.

>>50082293
Anon. . . that is what a nuke is. their entire function is the release of energy from the breaking up of atoms to their sub atomic components.

>>50082297
This. Aside from omnipotent beings, nothing is truly invincible.

>>50082257
I mainly want Thanatos for the projection thing. I've got two Stands, a Persona and the Royal Aura from LTTQ. Any other things like this?

>>50082310
Breaking up atoms and breaking up Quarks are two different tiers of power anon

>>50082316
Tell that to the Saint of Killers, when I say nothing I mean nothing.

An Omnipotent being by their very nature must be able to create something that can kill them, it is surprisingly rare for them not to actually.

>>50082290
So...3. That's definitely half. Does help that the Naruto vs Neji fight was basically a straight up brawl until that one moment (And he wouldn't even get that far without the shounen power up the fox gave him so Neji didn't instantly stomp him) and that the Gaara fight was the same till that one scene at the end. A minor one you forgot was Shino beating Zaku by filling his bugs with arms (Unless that was fanfiction).

On the other hand, there's just too many straight brawls or shounen fights. Naruto, with his oh so vaunted unpredictability, basically lucks his way through fights or wins due to the fox. Most of the other genin also fight straight brawls, though at least some like Lee give really good fights.

>>50082175
Well, maybe it's because I haven't come across any actual seinen arguments in THESE THREADS along those lines.

I'll take my ignorance with another helping of bliss, if it's all the same to you.

>>50082177
I don't know. They sound a little too earnest for me to believe they're just joshing. There was a literal "(character A) can totally beat up (character B)" argument, for crying out loud.

>>50082227
I'm just saying, comics/vidya arguments don't come up nearly as often in these threads and when they hae they're at least a lot more interesting to me than all this gushing over HUEG NUMBERS.

>>50082292
There are things worse or at least more destructive in an out-of-context way than Sting out there. The reality-enforcing light of Judgements in Fallen London. The Endless' conceptual powers, if you took a certain DC drawback. Dipping your balls in pure Chaos (40K, Exalted or Webmage-pick your poison) without any relevant perks.

Just saying.

>>50082297
Also, this.

>>50082326
And the description of his power doesn't say quarks, it says destroys matter on a subatomic level. Which would be happening at the point of detonation of a nuke.

>>50082329
Being able to and doing so are not the same things. And even if they did make something that could kill them and they did, they could just come back because that's what Omnipotence is.

Besides, Saint of Killers ain't shit. He could only kill God of that setting off his throne, where he was no longer Omnipotent (If he ever was anyway, given it is a DC setting isn't it?)

>>50082310
Yes, and? We're talking about the damage a nuke can do, not how it generate the energy to do that damage. You're right, a nuclear weapon causes the dissociation of uranium nuclei in order to create an explosion. But said explosion can not itself cause nuclei to dissociate. It's pointless to talk about how a nuke causes the damage it does, because Achilles is not a sub-critical mass of uranium and therefore wouldn't be subject to that mechanism.

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Jumpers, tell me about a time when you tried to fix canon, only to horribly fuck it up far worse than it ever was instead.

>>50082344
>If he ever was anyway, given it is a DC setting isn't it?
Well, kind of. It's a Vertigo imprint, but it's not set in the same "sort of DC, sort of not" setting as other Vertigo comics.

>>50082337
You come off as an arrogant, condescending prick who hates that people enjoy something he doesn't.

Just saying.

>>50082321
My man. I don't even like Thanatos and I can see the appeal of that.

Hunger Demons from Toriko are similar, you can get a living shadow in Fallen London and I think Dreamselves in Problem Sleuth/Sburb are similar but can't affect the real world or something

>>50082329
Be fair: Preacher!God is a massive scrublord of a cosmic being. Couldn't even wish his loneliness away, handle Genesis without CASSIDY setting up Jesse or apparently foresee Genesis' creation.

>>50082360
And you come off as an oversensitive autist who feels insecure that not everyone loves his favorite chinese cartoons as much as he does.

Can we just stop talking to each other? If we're going to devolve into slinging insults I'd prefer it at least be over something actually interesting.

>>50082373
Is that you ASA?

>>50082373
Says the guy who comments out of nowhere about how much he hates shounen and everyone who likes it and how great seinen is? Coming off a bit hypocritical there.

>>50082332
Anon, when I said half, I didn't mean half of all fights were strategy, I meant half of each fight was strategy. I mean, the Neji fight also had Naruto try and use his clones to get around Neji's rotation ability. But yes, the Zaku thing happened. There's also Sakura using a variety of traps against the Sound Trio, if that counts.

I see your point about the brawls, but at the very least there was something more to it then just throwing around nuclear attacks or something. There was skill and strategy, there was just...more to it then power levels. I wish we could have seen more of Lee though, he was fun.

>>50082374
Even if I was someone who doesn't usually post at this hour, why the hell do you think I, "ASA", would say yes?

I didn't know jumpchain suddenly had this honor system not written in the rules.

>>50082393
Eh, if that's your definition of half being strategy, it seems like there's generally at least that much in a bunch of the final fights too. Things like the various shinobi teams, whether of the alliance or the dead hokage, trying to find a way to deal with the immortal zombie ninja seems to qualify and those make up most of the last few arcs. The very last fight with Kaguya even has some manoeuvring with shadow clone decoys and kamuis. There's still some level of skill or strategy, it's just that the power levels are higher.

>>50082403
Huh. Never would've thought you were like this.

>>50082393
I've got to say my favourite fights that actually displayed intelligence were the one in JoJo's part 2. Joseph is best Joestar. At least the Joseph from part 2. Kind of went downhill after that for the character.

>>50082321
memories reborn from ship girls

where To next? disgaia,Coco's bizarre adventure or warframe?

>>50082417
Mostly Jotaro's fault. Couldn't give the Best Man the spotlight in Jotaro's series. Joseph did get a couple of neat scenes I think but he was mostly portrayed as just an idiot, rather then a cunning idiot. I think the stand battle where it shrunk down and crept inside someone's head was one where he got to do stuff. Was one of the few times we saw hamon shit again too.

>>50082417
I'm with you except that my favorite fight is the one against Bastet

>>50082363
In Sburb, Dreamselves are things that physically exist. If you can get them off Derse/Prospit, then they're perfectly fine extra bodies, and even have the ability to fly. The two catches are that either your real self or your dream self will be asleep at all times, although one Heart player in canon managed to have both awake at the same time, and that you're going to drop back to one body if you god tier.

Problem Sleuth Imaginary Selves, on the other hand, can't exist outside of the imaginary world for more than an instant unless you have an ungodly high imagination stat.

>>50082415
I don't know how that reply was unclear but I'm not ASA. This thread's stupid enough without you trying to drag unrelated people into this.

>>50082417
>>50082433
Jotaro even got the mercy kill Joseph never received

>>50082347
I tried to make things better in Evangelion by helping out the pilots as an Angel. That went relatively well up until Zeruel showed up. He kicked my ass, and the rest of the pilots were less experienced then they should have been because I had been "coddling" them. We came this close to Zeruel killing everyone, it wasn't even funny.

>>50082409
I suppose that's true. Maybe it's just me, since it seemed like all that got less focus then the whole "there goes several countries" thing.

>>50082417
Joseph was fun, because half of it was him being actually clever and the other half was just blind luck and him being really good at bluffing and pretending he knew what he was doing.

>>50082088
The worst part is that originally a Shaman King manga was discontinued at end of the Shaman King tournament. The armor OS's and Hao being redeemed and legitly having GS as his spirit and basically everything after the end parts of tournament... was part of an attempt to continue the series after a few years by a different company. So if you wonder why manga had it the way it did is because of that.

>>50082446
>since it seemed like all that got less focus then the whole "there goes several countries" thing.
That's the fanbase talking mostly. Well, fans and non fans and people who just hate it.

>>50082443
Well, Sburb's a lot weirder than I thought I guess? Shouldn't be surprised, really.

>>50082417
I think Stand battles happen too quickly for people to sit down and think out detailed plans, like Joseph's arena trick shot.

>>50082446
Did you eat other Angels to have more than one S2 organ?

>>50082446
I'm still wondering what Jonathan's actual Stand would have been now that The World is apparently confirmed Dio's personal Stand by Steel Ball Run

>>50082475
Isn't it meant to be Purple Hermit? Since he got it from having Johnathan's body.

>>50082158
For me the difference between the two, shounen and seinen, is that in seinen powers and conflict serve the plot, the have a point, whereas in shounen powers and conflict are the plot.

I likes me a good fight, and powers are neat, but when it's just AHHHH, I/HE/SHE/IT/THEY AM/IS EVEN MORE POWERFUL for a million episodes its just grating. Listening to people talking about shounen is just like listening to people talk about whos hypothetical dick is bigger. It's just wasted space.

Jumpers can apparently have any power other than true immortality, what about a jumper whose only power was true immortality?

>>50082489
Pretty much this, to be honest.

I don't think it's even universal across all shounen ever. I just think the ones people do tend to spout on about in these threads recently are the most egregious offenders.

>>50082488
I thought Hermit Purple was Joseph's Stand, not Johnathan's?

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>>50082452
Huh. I didn't know that. I suppose that explains the ending then.

>>50082454
Maybe. Now that I think about it, I suppose there was more then just massive attacks and what not going on and I just focused on the latter when I read through it.

>>50082469
Nope, I just helped out the pilots by providing support and extra fire power. Actually, can you have more then one S2 organ? Wouldn't that mess you up or something?

>>50082475
It's apparently Hermit Purple, though a more efficient one and one that can view what is in one's heart through a crystal ball. Jorge Joestar buffs it by allowing the user to see the past and future of their bloodline relatives. So I could see my mother's life in the past or my son's life in the future if I had it, for example.

>>50082494
They'd spark after getting the shit kicked out of them for several centuries, then go back and beat up everyone.

>>50082489
Whenever someone describes Shounen like this, it becomes painfully clear that they don't actually watch any shounen or, if they do, they purposefully misinterpret it to make it look bad. Anon, the only series that matches this insane interpretation of Shounen you have is Dragon Ball Z if viewed through the eyes of someone who's only heard about it on the internet.

>>50082494
He's called Steve, from accounting.

Sometimes we talk over lunch, but he's not what you'd call a people person. I heard he's working to get a transfer to HR next quarter.

>>50082489
Not even the worst offenders like DBZ and Naruto are like that. What the hell are you smoking?

>>50082510
And how exactly would they complete an endjump when his only power is not dying.

>>50082511
Nah, Naruto and Bleach are also just autistic screaming fights. I'll give you that there is good shounen out there, GL and RK are fun, but the genre is largely trash.

>>50082508
>Jorge

Isn't he non-canon?

How did Joseph get Johnathan's Stand?

>>50082511
>>50082532
I think people get that impression because people who do know about the ones you mentioned tend to go on and on forever about whose power beats whose and not the actual characters.

>>50082534
His secret is, that he's come to bargain

>>50082541
If people get that impression from listening to fans argue online and consider all shounen to be like that instead of, I dunno, watching one themselves to see, they're idiots. Plain and simple.

>>50082534
A combination of their inability to die and relentless grinding.

>>50082551
>>50082541
It's basically the equivalent of someone hearing about Tranformers 3: Revenge of the Fallen or some other godawful Michael Bay flick and then declaring all action movies ever to be bad just from hearing about one.

>>50082551
Count me an idiot then, because I'm never touching Naruto after how stupid you people made it sound.

>>50082534
I guess you could take the Heroic Age as an end jump where the qualifying condition is to kill Belcross and wait til he dies naturally.

>>50082564
Well, more accurately it's like someone hearing about Michael Bay movies and then saying shit about the action genre. Since people above are complaining about the genre as a whole rather then a single movie.

>>50082541
Yes, Jorge is non-canon.

Who knows? The Stands of children tend to be similar to their parents, perhaps Joseph's Stand being similar to his grandfather's, if weaker, is the same situation? Oh, I should mention that the Stand itself is canon, we see Dio using it to spy on/track the Crusaders, and we also see him use it to see Polnareff's desire for revenge on J. Geil.

>>50082564
Hey, don't degrade transformers by comparing it to naruto.

Transformers is unintentionally funny and moving at least.

>>50082508
I mean, as far as I managed to read up on it that's the reason the ending is like that.

As for S2 organs... I mean, kind of? Core holds the Soul but mostly it's the main powerhouse. Core is the Brain, S2 organ is the heart and considering it can be turned into an engine... I'd say having more would be possible if you have any perks that let you incorporate things into your body or assimilate them

>>50082564
>It's basically the equivalent of someone hearing about Tranformers 3: Revenge of the Fallen or some other godawful Michael Bay flick and then declaring all Michael Bay movies ever to be bad just from hearing about one.
FTFY

I know you want to make it seem like shounen is the only place to get action, but it's not. Shounen is a type of action that gravitates toward vapidity and autism.

>>50082576
Can you read anon? I'm really curious. Because you seem to think I'm calling you an idiot for not touching Naruto. I'm not. I'm calling you an idiot for decrying all shounen ever to be the most awful thing because of arguments on internet forums you see. That's what makes you an idiot.

>>50082585
I thought that Dio's ability to track the Joestars was because he was using Jonathon's Stand for that?

>>50082600
I can.

I'd challenge you to provide an example of an objectively well written shounen if I believed one existed.

The sooner you accept that there are things people will always disagree on and that includes the intrinsic value of your favorite cartoons, the better.

>>50082595
Okay, let's walk you through this analogy, since you seem to have so much trouble grasping it. I compared someone shitting on the shounen genre for arguments about a few series to someone shitting on the action genre for a few bad movies because they're both genres. Understand?

Honestly, morons like you don't even seem to understand what Shounen means beyond what you hear argued on internet forums. You understand it is just the audience a work is directed at right? And that many shounen can have many elements found in works labelled as 'seinen'? Or even look like they should be directed to seinen audiences entirely?

>>50082508
Given that the S2 organ apparently produces a limitless amount of energy maybe it's more a matter of how much power the core can channel and as such there's not really any advantage to multiple S2 organs other than if one of them is destroyed.

>>50082594
Well, I suppose that would be helpful, to have more then one S2 organ I mean. I wonder what would happen if you had the S2 organs of all the Angels except for ADAM, Lilith, and Tabris...

>>50082604
Yeah, that's what he was doing, using Jonathan's Stand to keep an eye on them. Remember how Joseph could smash a camera in order to get pictures? Jonathan's Hermit Purple could do that as well, except unlike Joseph he didn't need to smash the camera.

>>50082638
Man, and right before my post, too. Yeah, that's a good point, the core might not be able to channel more energy then it already does, so having more then one S2 organ wouldn't do much.

>>50082630
Not him, but you do realise you're trying to argue something that people aren't going to change their minds on?

Do you honestly think that if you argue hard enough on a Lithuanian Morse Code sounding board, you will suddenly convince someone they are objectively wrong about their stance on Japanese animation, and completely agree with you?

Has anyone in this thread ever done that?

>>50082619
HunterxHunter? FMAB? Rurouni Kenshin?

If you'd like, we could go into some of the seinen you idolise so much. Elfen Lied sure is the peak of writing achievement. Tokyo Ghoul? Not edgy tumblr bait at all. Terraformars? Fant-hahahahaha I can't even say it.

Look, maybe you should realise that painting one entire genre a single colour is utterly retarded.

>>50082663
Man I am sitting at this desk for the next 9 hours with motherfucking spreadsheets for company. I have got little else to do to fill my time.

>>50082630
Here's the thing, when shounen fans talk about shounen they do so in a way that completely undermines the position that shounen is anything other than just a wank fest for powers.

When faggots like NuGod talk about how jumpchain is all about muh powers, he gets it from shounen fan-style discussions that center around, you guessed it, shounen. Rarely if ever do I see shounen fans discussing plot, theme, setting, or character. It's always flashy powers. It's the equivalent of defending a genre based off of special effects.

I get the naming convention of shounen and seinen, that they're named after their audiences, but the naming convention isn't the point here: the lack of any real depth and story to the vast majority of IPs within the genre is. I've said there are exceptions, GL and RK, that do have thought out settings, characters, and themes. Those are exceptions, though, and not rules.

IPs like Bleach, Naruto, and DBZ, the real banner carriers for the genre, have nothing to them beyond flash. That's what I'm critiquing.

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>>50082347
I tried so very hard at preventing Reach from being glassed. It was my home planet in that jump, and I thought it would be a good goal for my first attempt at affecting a canon on a massive scale.
I succeeded.

Earth was glassed instead.

I don't even know how the fuck it happened.

>>50082715
Just curious but have you actually watched/read either Bleach, Naruto or DBZ?

>>50082715
I'd say Medaka Box at least had fun with the idea.

Isn't FLCL shounen too?

I think someone was actually gonna make a jump for that. I'd like to see hoe that turns out.

>>50080643
Prototype

>>50082619
Gurren Lagann?

>>50082754
Yeah, had a friend that was really gung-ho for them so I watched out of camaraderie. It was painful.

Like said, there are exceptions in the genre, but the big tent-poles are just horrible.

>>50082758
>Medaka Box
It wasn't as good in that respect as Madoka, which is an amazing deconstruction of its genre, but it was smart enough that I like to think it was at least trying at deconstruction.

Here's version 1.2 of Generic Creepypasta, "Remembered to change the version number" edition.

Changes:
Imported/Created Cryptid companions now get the same discounts that the Jumper gets.
Clarified/changed the wording of a few Cryptid perks to be clearer and better reflect their intended purpose

Also, here's the first batch of Cryptid Perk combinations:
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>>50082715
....wow. You really are basing your opinion on the majority of a genre because of watching what people on 4chan argue over most.

Well, now that you've given out your reasons, I'd like to point something out to you. Seinen, if you're looking at the majority (Or even just a large number), is exactly the fucking same. WHere do you think all the hundreds of pervy, mostly fanservice series are directed at? Teenage audiences. Which is part of Seinen. Meaning that godawful shit like Freezing and Queen's Blade? Most harem series? That's all Seinen too.

Yet despite the hundreds of series, including well known ones too, with zero depth beyond fanservice, or zero depth beyond pointless, gratuitous violence, you somehow don't think exactly the same of it as you do shounen, despite it doing everything you criticise Shounen for doing.

It seems to be that you either don't consider the many many bad works in that demographic at all or you ignore it because there's actually fair amount of stuff that is either good or average or bad with some great moments. Like shounen. Some of it's great, a lot is average and some is bad. Even the series you decry as having nothing but flash are so obviously not to anyone who watches a few episodes. Do Bleach, Naruto or DBZ have much character development? No, but they have some. Do they have a plot? Obviously but you seem to think they don't and it's just endless fights with no breaks. Do they have emotional scenes? Sure.

The point I am trying to make is that what you are critiquing is not like what it actually is and what you are defending is also not like what you defend it as being. You're blindly judging and making sweeping declarations based on little more then internet arguments.

>>50082820
>404: Jump Not Found

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>>50082831
Whoops, how spooky! I forgot the PDF!

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>>50082758
>FLCL shonen.
Don't make me slap you.

>>50082794
Okay, I actually agree but-

>Madoka

I like it. It's neat. But in hindsight, it's...honestly kind of one-note.

>>50082675
Just go back to your spreadsheets or browse an actual Naruto thread or something.

It's bloody obvious nobody is going to agree on anything here.

>>50082794
Kudos to actually watching something you're complaining about. The number of internet arguments about shows that begin with "I haven't seen it but..." have kind of soured me on online opinions about things like this. I think they're coming out with a new Madoka thing as well.

>>50082660
>>50082638

Now, we are not sure if the limit on how much energy you can draw in at once from S2 organ is limitation of core or organ. I think it's mostly that the Organ will never run out of power but it can only produce so much at once.

>>50082794
>amazing deconstruction
Suffering for sufferings sake? A poor man's rehash of what was done in Princess Tutu? Amazing.

>>50082820
Could you combine Sanity Damage with Pocket Realm to make it as eldritch as possible?

>>50082825
Hey, let's do something fun: Why don't you say something nice about the plots in Bleach, Naruto or DBZ?

I hope you realise you are rapidly becoming eveything you just accused that one guy of doing by judging an entire genre based on some cherrypicked examples.

>>50082869
You could make it look eldritch already, but that's a good idea for a combination; having Sanity Damage work on others all the time while they're in your realm. I'll add that it.

>>50082820
>>50082834
Seems like everyone takes Cryptid anyway so buffing it more seems a little odd though I'm happy to take whatever you're putting out.

Might be worth coming up with some combos for the non-Cryptid options to keep them competitive though.

>>50082870
>Becoming what I accused him of
No, I'm not anon. I'm pointing out what his view, applied to Seinen, should look like. I DON'T consider all but a few seinen to be bland, lifeless harem series because a majority is about some pervy stuff and some of those are totally worthless, which is what he views Shounen as (Though with the examples changed to a more fitting type). I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough that that isn't the view I take.

You know what I think of the Seinen genre? It's a genre that has some good and bad things in it. Just like Shounen. And making sweeping statements about everything but a handful of works in it is stupid and blind.

As for the examples you've asked for, sure. DBZ? I think Vegeta's character arc over the course of the series is enjoyable and watching him grow from the arrogant, racist monster into a man who not only loves his family of humans but also has the humility to admit his long time rival is better then him at something is interesting and touching. Bleach? I think the early parts of the series were very good and that the Soul Society arc was generally well paced and the betrayal was pretty neat. After that it turns mostly into a slog but I never said all shounen was excellent, only that not all was bad. Naruto? I liked the rivalry between Sasuke and Naruto in Part 1 but most things in Part 2 are pretty bad. Again see the last sentence.

>>50082846
I think the visuals (inb4 qualityposting) and music grab people on a way less animated shows don't.

Well, that and the fact that most people I know don't watch that many magical girl shows.

I mean I tried branciing out to Symphogear and it was shit. But as someone who was introduced to the concept by Madoka, I gotta say I wouldn't even call it a deconstruction ultimately because that implies a certain exploration of the themes being deconstructed. It's just a Grimm's Fairy Tale disguised as a magical girl show.

I don't even think it's shit, it's just a lot more on-note than it gets credit for.

My break's over, so while it's been fun I'm out. Thanks for the discussion everyone.

>>50082825
At no point have I said that seinen is without reproach. I have said that I prefer it to shounen because in seinen there is, typically, some sort of point to the conflict, whereas with shounen the conflict is the point. That emphasis and what flows from where is important.

I have said that I find shounen to be vapid, and I backed up the claim for vapidity by pointing out that fans of the genre talk more about powers and fights than they do plot, theme, and character. I know you want to blow that off, but that's a legitimate critique. Again, its like a movie where all people talk about is the special effects. If that's all there is to say about it, that's all there is to say about it. A good action movie, though, should allow you to talk about effects and action as much as plot, theme, and character.

>>50082841
>>50082846
>Madoka
Eh, amazing may have been a hyperbole on my part. Though I do stand by the assertion that, for the convention of anime, it is a great, thoughtful deconstruction of the genre and its associated tropes. I enjoy a story that takes its premise seriously and, for its faults, Madoka did address the ethics and implications of using children to fight some weird cosmic war. The why behind it was fun too.

>>50082843
Eh, if you're going to bitch about something you should at least do it the credit of checking it out first. It might be painful, but at least that way its honest.

If I take Omega Adaptive Evolution, Omega Healing Factor, and the Worm power that makes you a better Crawler, how do I compare to 682 on a purely physical level? And how can I pick up the ability to adapt to magic/conceptual effects?

>>50082925
...not much of an amazing deconstruction if all you can praise it for are things not related to it being a deconstruction the music is really good I agree on that. Which makes sense because it's a shit one that's mostly a vehicle for the author to make fictional characters cry to get himself off.

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>>50082820
>Combining Glitch and Genius Loci, one can haunt the entire internet
>Internet Haunter shitposts on 4chan when they're not spooking people
>Where as everyone else is getting freaked out by this virtual ghost, anons just get into an argument over waifus with the Internet Haunter
It will be great.

>>50082820
>Glitch+Genius Loci- You can haunt games, virtual worlds, the internet, etc. to use the abilities of Genius Loci. Know everything that happens on the internet, or in a virtual world, move freely, etc. The weaknesses of Genius Loci do not apply; instead you use the rules for Glitch.

Haunting a pornsite - bad idea or worst idea?

>>50082921
Listen I'm the guy who talked about how futile this all is. At this point I'm just trying to move on from a topic I can only see ending in torrents of salt from all parties involved into something at least some of us can have fun with.

Okay then. Personally I actually think DBZ majorly suffers from an annoying stereotype I've seen too often in seinen: HURR IM THE STRONGEST AND THAT MEANS I AM RIGHT BY DEFAULT BECAUSE I FIGHT FOR PRIDE REASONS. See also: Goku punching his son. And as Vegeta's one of the most blatent examples of this attitude I've always thought his arc took way too long to be driven home when he kept being beaten up. I did hear it finally started to stick in DBZ Super though

I am curious what was actually ever good about Bleach's plot early on, which I've never heard anyone talk about.

>>50082975
Depends, are you suddenly going to turn porn into nightmare fuel at just the right time, just to mess with people?

Because that's horrible, you're a terrible person, and you should totally do it.

>>50082899
The other backgrounds are really good though. I think we just all want to be spooky monsters as personal preference.

>>50082975
Depends on the site.

Could be a good way to get a virus.

>>50080867
Avatar from the new creepypasta jump

>>50082934
>Conflict is the point
Really? Doesn't seem like it to me. In most shounen series, conflict generally happens for a reason and that reason is generally the plot. Even something like Naruto has the fighting happen for a reason. Do you think they're just fighting for the sake of fighting? You might not think it's very good plot but it's pretty piss poor criticism to say there's no point to the conflict.


>I have said that I find shounen to be vapid,
>I backed up the claim for vapidity by pointing out that fans
No, I don't actually find this a legitimate criticism. Because it's entirely subjective and based on where you spend your time online. I've seen plenty of people talk about the plot or characters of some shounen, just as I have seen many many people talk about power levels. Different sites and communities have different people in them and those people talk about different sorts of things. A place like Jumpchain? Yeah, power levels and powers are going to be the most prevalent topic. That's how it is for everything. But judging a whole genre just based on what topics get discussed on the sites you visit as if they are representative of every discussion on it ever? No.

>It's like a movie where all people talk about is the special effects
Except in this case it's like you only listen to a single part of the audience who saw that movie or only to every third conversation that part has.

>>50082925
I also don't know if I'd really consider it a deconstruction, it's more something that you think is a typical magical girl show that actually has a different setting than implied. I consider a deconstruction to be more when a generic plotline/archetype has the writers apply reality to it and show the flaws in it. Like RE Zero did with the hero summoned from another land plot. Any news from the Anon who was making a jump for it? Admittedly I did find Subaru's sudden change in temperament that lead to him screwing everything up to be kind of different from previous episodes characterisation.

>>50083000
Oh, no, it's an Avatar in the "clone" sense, not in the "mantling your power" sense.

>>50082899
I understand that feeling. Like I'm really tempted to go Drop In just to be IMMUNE to half the shit on the cryptid list.

But all those tasty treats from the Cryptid perks are so nice!

>>50083016
oh. nevermind then

>>50082996
The blocked off options make it a better move to take Cryptid most of the time. You can go Cryptid and dip into any of the other options but not the other way round.

A Cryptid build however is not likely to take 2 other capstones (although a fair few have taken one) so if there was an incentive to take 2 non-Cryptid capstones due to some neat combos there may be more diversity in builds.

>>50083016
>"mantling your power" sense.
Actually, is there anything for this?

>>50082942
Well I did say I agree it's not much of a deconstruction, just worth a watch.

Like I said, it's a fairy tale in anime form. Pity about Rebellion Story, though.
That was just basically just Rebuild of Eva for a different series.

>>50082834
In future jumps, if we import Slenderbro, can we have him look the same way (really tall, faceless, tentacles, etc.) and have people treat him like he's perfectly normal? Because that idea amuses me.

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>>50082834
Would No Face let me have hair like this and still see fine?

>>50083036
Is there any reason not to just allow all origins to take Crytid perks?

>>50083038
I think Siren has a perk for that, actually. Though it does also strip the person of their free will and transform them into an avatar of your will.

>>50082846
>Princess Tutu
That was a good show. Actually, could a jump be made out of that? Is there enough there?

>>50083038
Jumper Powered Warrior, from Showa Kamen Rider 2, sort of?

>>50082983
>Goku punching his son
See, I find that's actually one of the more interesting bits of the series. That Goku is so genetically predisposed towards battle and so raised to do it that he doesn't even consider his half human son wouldn't be the same, resulting in his insane healing of Cell so Gohan could fight him at full power. I thought it was good at showing how Goku just fundamentally didn't understand points of view other then his own and built on Gohan's character too. It definitely doesn't get much focus but I'd definitely not criticise the series for one of the few times it tries to go beyond it's usual fare.

>Vegeta being too slow
Yeah, that is a problem. It's more a symptom of how long running the series was, which, as far as I have come to know, was also against the author's wishes. From what I hear the author wanted to change out at least the protagonist from Goku to Gohan and possibly more but Goku's massive popularity forced him not to.

>Early Bleach
Pacing is one of the big things. Bleach suffers so much from taking years to do anything, despite many things happening in that time nothing major really advances. Early Bleach wasn't like this and things generally kept moving quick enough and new things introduced regularly. The series was much better about the power wank and the cool parts of the series, stuff like Zanpakutou or Soul Society, got a lot more focus then they would later on. There's some more stuff but it's been a long long time since I watched it so I won't say in fear of saying something that isn't true and fucking up.

>>50083039
Ugh, fuck Rebellion so much. Urobuchi just completely fucks over a perfectly bitttersweet but eventually happy ending in favour of pointless misery.

>>50083011
Agreed. I mean, I'd say Narutaru is technically more of a deconstruction even if it's a worse show overall because it did run with the premise of kids with pet battle monsters before making it all go wrong. Even if it was also the absolute edgiest thing I've been able to force myself to watch.

>>50083080
>Showa Kamen Rider 2
How many Kamen Rider jumps do we even have at this point?

>>50080867
The Imaginary Friends jump has perks that let you give someone one of your perks that increase physical/mental abilities once per year. Cardcaptors Ensoul lets you create items that let people use the magical ability you ensouled into the item.

>>50083099
Four, I think? With more coming up.

>>50083095
>Urobuchi
Wasn't him this time, actually. Executive meddling was the cause, because they wanted to leave open the possibility for a new season. Uro actually wanted to give them a (relatively) happy ending for once. Or that's what I remember being told.

>>50083099
Four, the two Showa jumps, Neo-Heisei part 1, and Heisei part 1. Neo-Heisei part 2 is almost done though.

>>50083036
I could argue that power combinations give incentive to stay in the cyptid tree. And the other origins capstones are worth ait.

>>50083136
Huh. Holy shit I've been (Maybe) blaming the guy wrongly all this time. Shame (Maybe)

>>50083097
Man... There are so many ways that giving kids animals predisposed to fighting and telling them to encourage it could go horribly wrong. Any other shows that deconstruct battle monsters?

>>50083095
Was it even Urobucher's idea? I thought the company just wanted to milk more cash out of the franchise somehow.

>>50083083
I take your point, and I'd agree if the show DID explore Saiyan psychology more instead of gloss over it every time with Goku's work ethic being jerked off and everyone laughing together when the villain's beaten. To me the problem is it's just too jarring to suddenly bring it up and expect viewers to associate that level of complexity with the character otherwise defined as the all-loving savior of the universe.

Ugh. Fucking studios ruin everything.

All this talk about what Bleach might have been actually reminds me of Mob Psycho, which is also about an absurdly overpowered dude with powers related to interacting with ghosts. I like how ONE is clearly halfassing everything, but somehow he presents these characters who actually excel in personal prowess but can't take meaningful satisfaction in it without external validation.

>>50083038
The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, also by me, has a discounted for villains that allows you to split your powers between you and eight other people.

>>50083041
Not by default, no. You might be able to convince people to accept him over time, but the default without other things helping with that (I think there was a perk in Dodgeball?) will be "Holy shit, what IS that thing?!"

>>50083042
Sure.

>>50083059
Mostly thematic reasons; the majority of Creepypasta stories have the cultists/servants, the protagonist (documenter/storyteller) and the monster as separate beings. As for Drop Ins; it wouldn't be balanced to let them take Cryptid perks, AND have discounts in their tree when the other two don't.

>>50082834
Whatever happened to that Yeong_Johnson guy? I hope he's okay.

Jump 6XX: Generic Creepypasta
Rolled age: 30
Drawbacks:
Original Recipe, Weirdness Magnet, Men In Black, The Foundation, Abandoned by Jumpchan (just for kicks)
Total CP: 1600

Drop In
And Then A Skeleton Popped Out (free)
But Who Was Phone? (50)
We Don't Have A Clown Statue (150)
Expired Pasta (300)
Outsider Information (300)
Non-Euclidean Mind (600)
Found Footage (100)
Pasta Recipies (free)
Cult of The Magpie (100)

Agents swarmed the perimeter of the old amusement park, featureless black SUVs and dark suits cutting off the one road leading back to the highway.
From behind a regulation pair of dark shades, Agent Able cast another worried glance towards the grand entrance. The park's banners had long since decayed and fallen, and even the signs were too peeled or rusty to make out the name.
Only one sign remained under the grey sky, and some asshole with a can of red paint had struck out the 'M' and replaced it with a 'B', altering it to read:
'- ABUSEMENT PARK!'
"We're sure it's in there? Whatever it is?" Agent Bill asked yet again.
"Section P isn't known for fucking up. The moment it entered, they had the site nailed."
"I'd say it's a fuck-up. They're better than that. We get a week's notice on the usual cases-"
"-this isn't a usual case. Section P said a shitload of Charlies were gathering here, and only picked up the breach when it happened. Whatever came through - command's calling it Trespasser, by the way - is way outside the usual, even for us."
"So why aren't the Janitors sweeping in by now?"
"Because the Janitors know there's about thirty gamma-class or higher Charlies in there...and this park is home ground for them. It's got a history. I wouldn't send a team in with five Charlies. The only thing we can do is wait for Trespasser to leave, and hope we can bring enough assets to bare in time."

>>50083207
That works considering I was planning on taking him to Dodgeball anyway (because the idea of Slenderbro playing Dodgeball also amuses me).

Did we ever get anything that lets you compete with comic level flying bricks? I seem to remember there being a DC spin-off that made you Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel or something.

>>50083210
Yeong Johnson? I haven't heard that name in a while... he was my roommate. He died a few months ago when some dudes jumped him, wrapped him up with chains, and threw him in the river.

>>50083188
>To me the problem is it's just too jarring to suddenly bring it up and expect viewers to associate that level of complexity with the character otherwise defined as the all-loving savior of the universe.
>Fucking studios
Yeah, it's why quite a few people feel that the Android/Cell saga tried to change stuff and make things more complex but studio interference kept it from doing so. I think there's definitely signs they were trying. They killed off or pushed away characters to make room for new ones but it didn't hold, the villains were generally nastier instead of just being about power and there were attempts to make some conflicts that didn't revolve around fighting or at least make some solutions to fighting related problems (Androids) with non fighting solutions (Just invent something to blow them up instead of killing them). I won't say they were good attempts or really big pushes to change it for the better, because they weren't really, but I do think Toriyama wanted to veer a bit away from the pure fighting it had gotten to.

>ONE
Personally, I'm not very satisfied with what's at it's core, just OPM again. An overpowered dude finding he can't get much satisfaction without external validation is fine once but doing it twice isn't great. Does at least make up for it with generally good humour and some amazing adaptations.

>>50083153
All the SMTs, technically? Though Devil Survivor 1 in particular starts with a very Persona-like cast, and then shows how badly they're going to get fucked when kids get trapped in a warzone between angels, demons and desperate humans.

Also the childhood friend turns out to be absolutely wrong and your smug cousin/rival has good reasons for his scheming and is also the most well-equipped personnto deal with this shit.

>>50083257
I think someone was working on a Mystic DC jump that let you compete with the low end of the top tiers. Being a SMT tribrid gives you Aquaman level physical abilities I think. The Imaginos body from GUNNM also gets pretty crazy.

>>50083311
We did, but that jump is apparently going to be split into two different jumps or something like that.

>>50083311
>>50083332
That's Cracker Jack, I think.

>>50082347
Every.
Single.
Jump.

>>50083476
Is USM ready to be on the drive?

>>50083257
Disgaea. Or did you mean starting off the jump with the ability to compete?

>>50083210
OI, Myr. Would Body Parasytes have easier time between switching body parts in case of Multi Parasyte or would Cranial Parasyte have easier time?

Would Body Snatcher help with it?

>>50080582
I'm not putting down any extra claims, but my hope was to eventually make all the Tales games into jumps.

Blade, if you are here i got a question about SK jump. The drawback cp limit says that it's 600 unless one takes "An Army of Myself, Me and I" or "Jumper must die". But do these simply not count towards drawback cp limit or they just raise it a bit like how it is in Overlord?

Also, Shamans pay 100 cp for each doubling of Furyoku and Mochirei companions pay 50 for each doubling of a Reiryoku, is that right?

>>50082175
Nobody who argues Griffith was right is being serious. The most I can believe is someone thinking Guts was mean for not returning Griffith's crush.

>>50082942
>mostly a vehicle for the author to make fictional characters cry to get himself off.
This is Urobuchi in general.

>>50083188
>To me the problem is it's just too jarring to suddenly bring it up and expect viewers to associate that level of complexity with the character otherwise defined as the all-loving savior of the universe.
At least he had Piccolo (Gohan's real dad, frankly) freak out and yell at Goku for his stupidity surrounding Gohan and Cell.

>>50083261
The Rake companion says discount creature, should that be discount Cryptid?

Honestly, with all this talk of Marika, I watched it and it seemed like complete shit.

>>50082820
>>50082834
So, do you need anything like Traveller or Teleportation to be summoned by Ritualist, or can you just spontaneously appear when summoned?

Can you 'discontinue' Rituals? Like, first letting yourself be summoned by saying "Jumper" three times, and then changing your mind and requiring an elaborate summoning circle with a virgin sacrifice?


Also, a few suggestions?

Maybe have a Stranger+Image Distortion combination to just not show up in recordings? Possibly showing/not showing in images at will?

Maybe a Mark+Teleportation or Traveller, to travel instantly to a marked person?

Maybe Mark+Possessive to posses marked people?

>>50082820
>Imported/Created Cryptid companions now get the same discounts that the Jumper gets.
Is there an actual reason you did this, or did the power-wankers in the IRC finally yell at you enough?

>>50083811
It was the people in the thread yelling at him, not the IRC.

>>50082820
Can you use companions for power combinations if they would reasonably apply? Like in an "All our powers combined" sort of way?

>>50083819
Not that anon, but afaict it was just one guy.

>>50083819
>>50083836
In the thread at least. I'd be hesitant to call any of the IRC-goers"power-wankers".

Hey, so when is best to unfuck the 40K timeline?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy_Timeline

The imperium jump lets you enter at "any major battle inthe Horus Heresy".

Also, unassuming jumps with OP stuff?

Danny phantom, besides the ghost stuff. There's The Reality Gauntlet, a cut-rate Infinity Gauntlet. The Infi-map allows free and unrestricted time travel as well as being a Marauder's Map for both the real world and the ghost zone. The Fright Knight's sword imprisons beings in a pocket dimension containing their worst fear.


Also, the tech in that world is obscene. Shrink rays, reactionless drives, clean renewable energy, belt-sized force shields, personal and vehicle-based energy beans, hover-tech, power armor that amplifies your strength and powers, oh and wormhole-tech.

And then there's Xiaoling Showdown
There's an actual no-paradox Time traveling Wu, a nigh unlimited source of lighting, a mist that turns people into zombie slaves. And the tech has time portals, actual AI and whatever were the robots in the evil future

And Futurama, where you can pay a few bucks to a guy to let you blow up a planet with a glorified wrecking crew equipment, or just use the beeping from car keys.

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>>50083846
Hey guys did you know you can become omnipotent if you combine Savant, Harem Protagonist, a bunch of squirrels tied together on a stick? True story.

>>50082820
Do other types of fame apply to that needed for Myth+Spook? Like, could you use your fame as an Idol singer to do amazing spooky things in your secret Cryptid identity?

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>>50083884
Oh shit, really? What kind of squirrels?

>>50083884
>>50083846
Aaaaaaaaaand here comes the IRC...
With propaganda-style responses like this it really is obvious that you guys don't try to control the thread! Bravo!

>>50083908
European red squirrels.

>>50083773
>The drawback cp limit says that it's 600 unless one takes "An Army of Myself, Me and I" or "Jumper must die". But do these simply not count towards drawback cp limit or they just raise it a bit like how it is in Overlord?

Those raise the cap.

Mandatory stuff is what counts as 0 pointers

>Also, Shamans pay 100 cp for each doubling of Furyoku and Mochirei companions pay 50 for each doubling of a Reiryoku, is that right?
Yes. each purchase doubles the Furyoku or Reiryoku

>>50083908
Mostly red squirrels. You should change at least two into a blue squirrel, though, and make sure it was born on a Thursday.

Then, you need to plug the controller into the player two port.

Do we have the Generic Creepypasta jump?

>>50083955
Yes. It was posted earlier this thread.

>>50083908
How do they get all of those into the carton?

>>50083981
it's not real you fucking retard

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>>50083981
Kid, how do you think?

>>50084000
And he wasn't serious, you fucking cock-mongler.

>>50083870
Kill Erebus and Pharon. They corrupted both Lorgar and Horus.

>>50083773
Not blade, but he did a thing either in the last thread or the one before that where he counted out the maximum possible amount from drawbacks. I think it was 2200?

So presumably, they don't count against the 600 max.

>>50084041
Found it.

>>50058989
Might need to go to the archives to look at it, as its a full three threads ago, so it won't work for much longer.

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>>50082834
So the non-euclidean mind perk, making a small hallway that connects two doors across the continent would only cost as much material as the small hallway normally would, not as much as a hallway between two continents, right? If so that's pretty rad.

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>>50083884
>>50083940
Damn it. I bought black squirrels. What if I painted half of them red and named three Steve? Or is that too much power wanking?

>>50083779
Yes, I'll fix that in the next update.

>>50083805
You don't need Traveler or Teleportation, but then your movement is restricted to people doing rituals. You can discontinue rituals, yes.
I like the Stranger+Image Distortion and Mark+Traveller combinations, and the Mark+Teleportation one with the stipulation that the range limitation from Teleportation is kept, so I'm going to add those, too.

>>50083811
Mostly it was so things weren't worded so awkwardly, but I also weighted the options that would be available to companions if they had discounts and decided that there wasn't a good reason not to let them have discounts.

>>50083836
No.

>>50083889
Just being well known is enough, no matter if it's for the horrific murders or the hit country single.

>>50084132
No, it's the amount of materials required to make a continent spanning hallway.

>>50083870
>Also, unassuming jumps with OP stuff?

Viscera Cleanup Detail. No, seriously. It's got laser guns, artificial gravity/anti-gravity, and either shrinking/miniaturization tech or wormhole tech.

Sure, that doesn't sound that OP. But then you consider this is for fucking JANITORS, not top-of-the-line shit.


Nichijou also has some seriously great robotics and AI, despite... those mostly being made because it's cute. Though I guess not really OP?

>>50084141
No, you have to name them after Greek letters, or else the octopi won't align properly. Every third one being named Steven should let you jerry-rig it, if you didn't take the trap option earlier.

>>50084168
Hint: Never name a squirrel Sigma. That's how you get Maverik forest animals.

>>50084142
>No, it's the amount of materials required to make a continent spanning hallway.
That seems rather less-than-useful then, at least as far as connecting two distant places goes. For building a house in a box it makes sense though.

So is there room for a Stepping on Worm jump, or is it too similar to the current one to count?

>>50082834
>>50082820
>Yesterday I'm told that companions don't get extra discounts
>Proceed to remove their extra powers
>Now they get them

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that the imports get the same freebies. I just find it odd that you actually did it.

>>50084220
Please don't. Seriously, while I don't doubt that a good enough jumpmaker could make something decent, the lionheart stories are a hell not even jumpers would be willing to brave.

>>50084220
>Perfect Lionheart fanfic jump. . .
I guess you could but why would you ever want to?

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>>50082820
>Avatar+Genius Loci+Glitch
>Infect various networks through the entirety of space and time

I see it less as less usefulness and more a matter of resourcefulness!

With as many Jumps as we have, something like infinite resources shouldn't be a problem.

No need for a power source, no complicated math, and a decent way to connect distant places. Might be a bit easier if it was several separate tunnels maybe.

>>50084142
Is the image outside completely separate from the inside? Like, if someone saw one of these, would they be able to see inside your infinite hallway or just its normal appearance? Can you choose which appearance takes effect?

>>50084254
Wow. I managed to derp so hard I forgot to link what I was commenting.

>>50084201

>>50084220
>>50084242
>Stepping
>Lionheart stories

Wut?

What are those? Spin-offs? omakes?

>>50084220
Go for it. Just don't be mad if people here complain about it too much. Might want not to make it too similar to worm, or go for a generic 'bad SI' jump.

>>50084254
Yeah, just go to Supcom and make moon-sized houses.

>>50084142
>You don't need Traveler or Teleportation, but then your movement is restricted to people doing rituals. You can discontinue rituals, yes.
Ah, alright. Thanks.

>I like the Stranger+Image Distortion and Mark+Traveller combinations, and the Mark+Teleportation one with the stipulation that the range limitation from Teleportation is kept, so I'm going to add those, too.

Cool.

Maybe something like Mark+Demograph or Ritualist+Demograph, to size up people that get your mark/try to summon you?

Or Malediction+Fate Worse Than Death, to automatically grant them a Fate Worse Than Death if the Malediction would've killed them?


Also, if you use Possessive does you body come with you or is it just laying around somewhere while you drive around the possessed body?

And could I get a non-functional tail for Monstrous body without Extra Extremities? Like, a cat's or something?

Or wings that don't actually allow me to fly?

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>>50084242
We already have Sonichu. What could go wrong?

>>50084220
.....you're kidding right?

>>50084142
Could traveler be something as generic as "TVs/viewscreens" or does it have to be a specific thing?

>>50084279
Fanfics. Lionheart is the authors name.

>>50084280
Maybe a gauntlet? where everyone you meet is a psychopath and tries to redeem you with massages and death.

>>50084329
And here we have it. Not gonna happen.

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>>50084329
Yes, best waifu, I'm kidding. I wouldn't never want to hurt you.

>>50084338
It gives mirrors as an example, anon. That's pretty generic, and also happens to include a lot of cameras and telescopes.