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/swg/ - Snubfighter Edition

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Post about X-Wing, Armada, FFG's Star Wars RPGs, d6, d20 (Saga), movies, shows, books, comics, vidya, lego, lore, and everything else Star Wars related

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/wCRBdus6
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Destiny and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (d6, d20/Saga, etc.)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ

Reference Materials & Misc. Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T

Shipfag's hangar
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing

HoTAC
>http://dockingbay416.com/campaign

Once and for all: who is the best girl?
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1st for T70
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>>50050470
Best starfighter reporting in.
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Love me some Jedi Starfighters.
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>>50050470
Lets hear it for the space F-22!
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>50050163 #
>>50050204 #
seems a safe bet

but at the same time i feel like something that can change direction fast enough to get reverse should have hard 1 turns.

though it should be noted that article actually said at least 6 1 speed manouvers, so we could end up with more
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I sent him a tweet saying "herkily Jerkily"
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>>50050800
jej

I'm new to /swg/ actually.
What's your collective opinion on the nu-canon?
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>>50050840
Theres good parts in it for sure, but its still in infancy so we're not 100% subscribed to it. Also Wendig is a cunt who will ruin it if he makes more books for it.
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>>50050840
At its worst the legends canon is and was just as goofy as the nucanon.

But the best of legends - X-wing by Stackpoll and Allston, anything by Zahn - is better than anything the nucanon has put out to date.
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So what is the bare minimum dial for the Upsilon shuttle to be not trash?

For me if it had the lambda dial but a white/green 2 hard and white 3 banks its scraping by as usable.

A dial like the decimator is acceptable as well
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>>50050800
How many signatures on a petition you think we need to get this guy banned from the IP?
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>>50050864
It won't matter because every signatory will be dismissed as a sexist and homophobic.
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>>50050877
Theres gotta be a threshold where disney listens to the fans right? I desperately want him off this IP
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>>50050800
Who the fuck is Chuck Wendig and what did he do?
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>>50050856
>anything by Zahn
That's the thing though, isn't it?
The EU had a strong foundation in the Thrawn trilogy.
Nu-canon has TFA.
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>>50050920
He wrote the awful pre-TFA nu-canon novels
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>>50050920
He's an 'author'.
He forced a bunch of 21st century ideologies into his massive rewrite of the old canon.
That's not so bad though. What is bad is his writing; he is a terrible writer, so much so that excerpts of his writing read like jokes.
When someone criticizes his writing, he dismisses their critique as being based in homophobia or sexism. As such, he has made his writing immune to critique.
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>>50050955

Would you prefer Traviss over Wendig?

I understand that theyre both bad, but I'm wondering who /swg/ considers worse
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ffgrpg question: if i want to exclusively use slugthrowers for my ranged weapons, what's the best way to go about that? which are good, what's a decent loadout for them starting out/early game?
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>>50051069
I like Traviss
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>>50051074

Slugthrowers in FFG are terrible - they can't ebenfit from most of the weapon upgrades and mods, have no real benefit, and often tend to be prohibitively expensive.

Your better off with a Blaster
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>>50050470
Not a snubfighter, but what was the Raven's Claw supposed to be? I always saw it as some other HWK model that was either produced like that or Kyle pimped it with huge thrusters ala Doc Brown's Delorean.
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>>50051074
>>50051086
Slugthrowers can't be reflected. If the jedi part of the group is acting suspitious, a fiver or a shard shooter is a reliable way to sixtysix them when they become openly hostile.
The best way to start the game is to take the extra cash and give yourself a regular blaster rifle and padded armor. Don't forget at least one set of comms, if needed buy several sets of comms and distribute them to the party.
It's up to you how to spend the rest of the money, really. The sensible way would be to get a tent, winter clothes, a pair of macrobinoculars, some canteens and a way to start a fire, but we all know most GMs never bother with any of this stuff. Just buy stimpacks with whatever money you have left.
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>>50051069
Honestly the thing that really bugs me about Wendig is that last bit: he won't take criticism. He literally dismisses all critique, no matter how reasoned, as bigotry. This leads me to believe that, no matter how forcefully or gently, how blatantly or subtly, anyone tries to encourage him to improve his writing, he'll just keep spewing out the same shit, safely enclosed within a bubble where all the haters don't count because they're bad guys.
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>>50050879
Bad reviews and bad word-of-mouth sales will make sure of that.

He can spout all the progressive bullshit he wants on Twitter, if his books aren't pulling in money, then the Mouse will quietly drop his ass.
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>>50051158
So we shouldnt bother setting up a petition?
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>>50050920
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>>50051169
Online petitions are a joke anon
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>>50051140
>Slugthrowers can't be reflected.

Not according to the rules of reflect, which specifically states a "ranged light, ranged heavy, or gunnery check"
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>>50051196

Well, the way I see it, a GM would probably rule that a Lightsaber would melt any slugs, but if you were using that power with a solid weapon of some kind it would work.
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>his wife's kid
bravo
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>>50051169
A petition sounds just as childish as his crying bigotry at every single critique. It'll make him look like a victim, which is what hacks like him want.

The best thing you can do is torpedo his sales by warning people to stay away with legitimate critiques. He's already a meme-level joke around here: spread that around to the normies. If you know somebody who asks you what you think of his SW books, tell them. Tell them he's a shitty writer who has public tantrums when faced with legitimate criticism.

>>50051069
Kevin J Anderson. By a country mile. At least when he dips into bad writing, its entertaining and flows well.
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>>50050955
>When someone criticizes his writing, he dismisses their critique as being based in homophobia or sexism.

Does he scream "GAMERGATE"?
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>>50050860
i reckon as long as it has a white hard turn it'll be at least enough.
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>>50051185
Damn, no survivors review there!
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endless vigil up yet?
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>>50050696
>space F-22
That would be the StealthX.
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>>50050800
Happened to me too, I wonder if his page just has a filter.
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Unpopular opinion: the TIE Fighter is an excellent craft and a superior option to the expensive X-Wing if you're trying to actually win a war and not just a one-on-one dogfight.
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>>50051519
There's been a modified version, from the photo pdf an anon posted a week ago, in the folders for the past ~4 days.
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>>50052603
TIE fighters are severely limited in both range and armament compared to the Y and X-wings, which both have built in hyperdrives and ordinance launchers.
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>>50052603
The TIE fighter is good at what's designed to do: Act in support of capital ships and other larger assets. And to mop up and decimate spacecraft that are older or of lesser quality.

The TIE is like the A6M Zero or the MiG-29 fulcrum, designed to be cheap and stomp out anything it fought of the generation previous, but had the floor wiped with it by new competitors.
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As much as I am looking forward to Star Wars: Destiny, I'm really disappointed they didn't post the Quadjumper.
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But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of defender pilot who would k-turn at the most predictable moment? Now, a clever man would put the 1 bank into his own dial, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the K-turn in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the 1 turn in front of me.
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>>50052603
I agree I love it to pieces
>no built in lifesupport cutting down costs and making sure no one can go AWOL
>no built in hyper drive for no pilot can go AWOL or stray to far from a star destroyer
>no shields. Life is cheap
>superior speed and insane maneuverability
>TIE Tide
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How possible is it to convert X-Wing models? I'm thinking of trying to convert a Tie Advanced to have the SF rear cockpit but I have no idea if that's even possible.
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>>50051069
That's a tough one, A very tough one. Unless we're talking "First three Repcomm Books" Traviss, in that case I'd take her by ten lightyears.

>>50051074
Berserker Rifle, one of the heavy shotguns, or Imperial heavy Repeater for your end game gun.
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What sort of protection would a mid-rim Imperial ordnance center have?
My players are going to Dxun and I want them to worry about the imperials on the neighboring planet and in space above.
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>>50053103
Have you worked with other models before, like warhamms, or malfaux? The plastic for X-Wing is about that same kind of quality, give or take. It can be cut into or drilled without too much effort. And the ship is actually several pieces tightly pressed together or glued. So like the B-Wing, for example, the front of the cockpit can be pried off of it's fat peg and repositioned or magnetized.
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>>50053341
Even at her absolute worst, Traviss was at least technically proficient. Her plot points and character writing were poor but her prose never truly descended to Ned Flanders' herkily-jerkily level.
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>>50053357
Awesome, I have wokred with Warhammer models before, so it sounds like it shouldn't be a problem. Looks like I have a plan for getting into X-Wing then.
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>>50053345

They would likely have a naval presence, most likely some Gladiators and a Victory or Imperial Star Destroyer.

The base itself would likely be fortified, probably with some AA capability and a garrison of defensive personnel. Starfighter support would come from the naval side of things.
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>>50053396

Lots of fun stuff you can do with the models.
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>>50051237
No. But reviews and criticisms made by people from here on 4chan are just as blatant as those from people who hang out on reddit or tumblr. So that makes it easy to pinpoint what social media the critique is coming from, and draw upon the usual conclusions about the person writing the review. I'm not saying he's a good writer... far from it. I'm just saying we're prettty shitacular when it comes to writing reviews that don't sound like it came from 4chan. Tact is a lost talent among us here.
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>>50053481
Okay.
That's a pretty big "this is a fight you CANNOT win" label for my group then.
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>>50051069
Traviss was legible as you'd expect from a professional writer and you could read it.
You might not like reading some of her stuff, plus her internet-spits where quite hilarious and your brain isn't going to go crazy from three word sentences. Aside from that I just didn't like the characters in his story to the point they annoyed me like every fucking idiot kid in TV-apocalypse/sci-fi shows lately and having to (try) and re-read over sections that just didn't make much sense. Book ended up binned before I could be bothered finishing it.
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>>50053503
Oh man that's cool! And I've also seen some wicked paintjobs online. I guess you have to strip the models first though, since they're pre-painted?
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>>50053392
The problem mostly has little to do with the writers themselves. Yeah, Traviss and Wendig are bad in their own ways. So is C.S. Goto, Gav Thorpe, or any number of writers that are pushing out books for a series of some kind, like Star Wars, Star Trek, Warhammer, Warmahordes, Neceomunda, Doctor Who, whatever. It's all shovel-literature. Like shovel-ware games. Most of it is bad writing, and shitty dialog designed to just push out another book under the franchise name for some quick cash. Very rarely you will find a writer who absolutely enjoys and loves the media, and (here's the important bit) is actually a competent writer. When this happens, you get the X-Wing series of books, or Gaunt's Ghosts, etc. The ones that are so good, it makes up for all the garbage being written just to pull in some cash.

Wendig and Traviss are the former without the latter... They love the medium, otherwise they wouldn't be writing for it. But they're not professional level writers, and it is painfully obvious. Meanwhile the professional level writers are building their own worlds and aren't bothering with established settings (cases in point, George RR Martin, Stephen King, James SA Correy, JK Rowling). So it is exceedingly rare to find someone who is both a professional writer, and is willing to write for an established setting that they have very little control over.
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>>50053645

Nope. No stripping required at all. Slap a primer on it and go to town, just need to keep your paints thin and I'd highly recommend using stains and washes over paints unless you really want a particular thickness to certain areas. Washes applied in like 3 layers just look alot cleaner most of the time and are way easier to apply.
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>>50053682
Hell you don't even need primer. The paint they use can be painted over easily.
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>>50053607

I would only go with the Imperial Class if it is an important supply base, like one that ships out to several Outer Rim bases. If it is less important, maybe a Victory or Gladiator as the local naval command vessel, with Raiders as fast attack interceptor vessels. Gozantis would likely be in the area moving cargo shipments in and out, with at least one TIE/ln wing to each shipment.
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>>50053481
>>50053607
>>50053720
A couple of Victory 1s could definitely work defensively, they're slow and their reliance on Concussion missiles ties them up to supply lines, so they'd be perfect to defend a munitions dump that can resupply them on the spot.
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>>50053807

For sure. Vic 1s would make good heavy torpedo vessels. If they have the Vic 1s as close brawlers, then they would likely have an light cruiser or two for long range fire support and backup long range comms.
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Question: Are Cluster Missiles super expensive or something?

Because back in Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike I would take a set of those, mount them on an X-Wing and annihilate entire squadrons of TIEs just like that.
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>>50053655
Travis was at least technically proficient.
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>>50052603

The TIE variants make my totalitarian neckbeard tingle
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>>50053898
Generally speaking nothing works like the Rogue Squadron games in Star Wars.They're heavily arcade flyer and play pretty loose with power level stuff to make the player feel badass.
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>>50052603
I get where you're coming from, it's just... You're wrong. The Empire lost. They lost pretty handily.
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>>50053952
How effective are cluster missiles actually then?
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>>50052603
That depends on the methodology with which you're fighting.
The Empire simply couldn't interdict Rebel forces, which let them rip the Empire apart with a thousand cuts.
Their regimented supply lines and interdependent craft worked against them.
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>>50053974
They average 3.5 hits against an enemy with 3 agility and 1 focus token.
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>>50053921
Yes, she was at least that.
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>>50053960
That wasn't the TIE fighter's fault though. The Empire lost because of Emperor Palpatine and his infatuation with moon sized, planet destroying space stations.
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>>50053704

Maybe it's just me, but the texture feels different when painting over the pre-painted parts on the models most of the time. Like they raised the areas where the paints are applied or something. I use the primer to try and even out the area where the paints being applied so that lip isn't there when I repaint it.

Or you could just incorporate the existing paint into the scheme like I did with Chulo 1 here.
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>>50054049
I meant post-Endor. Yes, there were multiple factors, but a smaller force of Rebel Fighters were able to keep up with a large force of TIEs
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>>50051117
The Raven Claw always seemed like a lazy design to me. Which i guess is 90% of star wars ships.

*Glares at the million different YT variants that just move the location of the cockpit.*
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>>50051199
I'd Imagine that a Jedi could just pull a Neo and stop the bullets in mid air.
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>>50051196
Reflect blocks the bullets, but IMPROVED reflect does not grant a bounceback of the projectiles.
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>>50054049
Sheev likes big balls. And he always wants to have the biggest balls around.
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>>50054109

>Expecting Corellians to actually make a new ship
>Not expecting them to just sell you the old one a dozen times over
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>>50051074
Generic slugthrower rifle and an ASP-9 autopistol to start out. The assault carbine and 8 guage scatter gun are also good choices if you want to spend a bit more. Once you get some cash you can look at getting a KS-23 Hammer or Model 38 sharpshooter's rifle. The Verpine shatterguns are absurdly expensive but very effective. The big drawback is that usually only the expensive stuff has hardpoints. There are no slugthrower specific attachments either, even obvious shit like silencers are absent.
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>>50054109
I thought the Raven's Claw is more Incom than CEC. But if it is another HWK model, then yeah it's Corellian.
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>>50052949
You're stalling.
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>>50054164
>Often upgraded with turrets by less savory types
>Reliable and rugged
>Incremental upgrades that barely change the look
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So, I ran a test game with this today:


>Unnamed Squadron (99)
>Norra Wexley — ARC-170 29
>Veteran Instincts 1
>Rey 2
>Alliance Overhaul 0
>Ship Total: 32

>Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing 25
>R4-D6 1
>Integrated Astromech 0
>Ship Total: 26

>Bandit Squadron Pilot — Z-95 Headhunter 12
>Ship Total: 12

>Jess Pava — T-70 X-Wing 25
>M9-G8 3
>Primed Thrusters 1
>Integrated Astromech 0
>Ship Total: 29

My opponent ran a Asajj - Party Bus - Headhunter combo, and aside from overloading the Z-95 a bit I think that's more or less the sort of list that would give me problems.
I won in the end, but it did highlight a few things that I need.
Firstly, put R2 Astro on Nora, the amount of stress that Asajj can deal out is very very troubling, remove Primed Thrusters from Jess. Honestly the only reason I think I won is because Biggs lasted so long.

My main weakness however is my lack of experience in formation flying. Does anyone know where to find a tutorial on it? There was a point where I got it completely wrong and Biggs + Nora and Jess and the Bandit got split up from one another and I lost the Bandit as a direct result.

If I hadn't gotten a couple of lucky Nora hits paired up with some unlucky defence rolls by my opponent then I don't think I'd have won.

As an aside, jesus fucking christ the Lancer has a native evade. Why the fuck does it have an Evade when neither the Fang or Starviper do?
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>Obi-Wan reads Aftermath
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>>50054320

If you want to practice formation flying, set up a game board with asteroids and just dial in maneuvers and try and keep together
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>>50054320
I like that budget Norra.

The easiest way to fly in formation is to checkerboard. Have your ships staggered almost front corner to back corner. This way, when you bank they will form 2 rows instead of crashing. It's usually best to put low PS in the first row and higher in back. With your squad it would be, Z at the front closest to the middle of table, Jess a little more than a base length next to her closer to the board edge, Biggs in between them with his front corners close to their back corners, and Norra next to Biggs. Put your ships on the table and practice flying them.
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>>50054391
>I like that budget Norra.

It works. It really does. You set up along the board and spend a couple of turns building up the Focus Bank. And don't forget, any time you have a focus and don't use it, it goes into the bank. Any time you take a Focus OUT of the Bank of Rey and don't spend it, it goes BACK IN at the end of the turn.
Realistically, you aren't going to use her ability every turn, but when you DO it's going to really hurt.
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Hey anons, in Force & Destiny, how much experience should I use to make a Clone Wars Obi Wan tier npc?
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>>50054489
Thousands.

For Obi-wan, a Jedi Master, I would say 5-6 thousands at least.
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>>50054525
Wouldn't I literally max everything with that much experience?
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>>50054600
You'd be maxing out several trees, maxing out your force rating, and taking on some other non-jedi classes.

Not to mention your skills.
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>>50054489
Several thousand. Remember, obi-wan has had twenty years of combat experience before the clone wars even started, plus the ultra-high tempo of warfare during the clone wars would send XP totals skyrocketing even from there. Obi-wan was easily one of the most dangerous men alive in those days, remember
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Well fuck it then, I'd feel bad to throw a monster like that to the party, even if they're supposed to run away from it.
I'll just go for a different concept.
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>>50054264

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my Dengaroo, which means you're exceptionally strong. So, you could have put the K-turn on your own dial, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not choose the K-turn in front of you. But, you've also bested my Tie swarm which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that defenders are mortal so you would have put the K-turn as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the K-turn in front of me.
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>>50054647
One of the lower-end jedi of the era could be built on 1000 or so XP, and would while still being extremely dangerous, would not be nearly as bad as obi-wan
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>>50054621
This is something people forget-most Jedi in the prequels weren't doing crazy fliparoo moves and casually taking out entire droid armies. In fact, most of them die on Genonosis to blaster fire from battle droids. It's just that the protagonists were RIDICULOUSLY POWERFUL Jedi, the best that the Order had to offer by far. Qui-Gon Jinn, Kennobi, and especially Anakin do not represent common Knights. It's the same in the OT and in the Sequel trilogy-Luke was the progeny of the literal Chosen One, and Kylo Ren was of his bloodline. Rey is-well we don't know what's up with her yet, but she's not a common force sensitive for sure.
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>>50054656
You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
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>>50054706
When you think about it, it's actually insane how fast she picks up new force techniques. Desert life must have done her mentality a lot of good.
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>>50054742
I've watched the movie four times, and my theory at this point is that she either 1)has some sort of genetic memory or 2)she's picking up force powers from other people around her, like the Exile in Kotor II. Notice that she only uses the mind trick after Kylo invades her mind, and she starts kicking his ass right after he says "I can show you the ways of the Force." The only thing that doesen't explain is how she suddenly started flying the Falcon-unless Finn really is Force sensitive, in which case she's just leaching off of his recent experience in the Tie fighter.

Either way it supports my original point- for some reason Rey is just as much of a prodigy as Luke and Anakin were, if not more. Doesen't mean she's related necessarily, but it does mean she's special.
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>>50054809
>The only thing that doesen't explain is how she suddenly started flying the Falcon
Supplementary material says she logged a billion hours in XWA, had a decent amount of suborbital flight time, and had been inside the falcon before while it was being fixed up, which combined with intuition would give her a reasonable degree of skill flying the thing
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>>50054914

While stuff like this does affect the quality of the film itself, since this whole canon unification thing going on, it's good we can take novelizations and supplementals at their word as intended expansions on stuff filmmakers didn't want to add time to the movie showing you. Because movies are fucking long these days.
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>>50054716

It has worked--you've given everything away! I know where the K-turn is!
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>>50054961
I still think the scenes with Leia on Hosnia should have made it into the final cut. A New Hope took time to put the plot on hold and provide some vital exposition, and way too much about the Resistance and First Order goes unexplained without those scenes.
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>>50054999
>I still think the scenes with Leia on Hosnia should have made it into the final cut
Oh? I've not seen any deleted material, was it good?
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>>50054961
I think it actually was in the novelization.
But yeah, a fifteen-second scene with rey in an X-wing simulator replaying the DS II run would have not been amiss, and a good bit of foreshadowing for the star destroyer boneyard stuff
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>>50054320
>As an aside, jesus fucking christ the Lancer has a native evade. Why the fuck does it have an Evade when neither the Fang or Starviper do?

The main reason why, is because every ship card can only ever have 4 actions at the most. Interceptors have "the sweet deal" by having focus, evade, roll, and boost. But Starvipers and Fang Fighters have targeting computers built-in, which (canonically) makes more sense than giving them Evade. And since they're both hyper maneuverable with roll/boost, and every ship has to have focus, that leaves Evade to be the action left out. This gives them the ability to "fully modify" with a focus and target lock, making their potential damage output beyond that of an Interceptor at the cost of the Evade action.
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>>50055021
>>50054914
Where and when did she get the chance to play simulators living in the middle of the desert?
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>>50055012
Afaik, the scenes were filmed and scripted but didn't make it in, they're not in the deleted scenes of the DVD however.
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>>50055052
Mail order.
But actually she found an intact one in a wrecked cruiser
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>>50055082
At this point I'm starting to believe the Force is just luck taken to superhuman levels.
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>>50055082
I wish they showed that in the movie. I've always wondered what star wars simulators look like.
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>>50055126
They showed some simulators in Rebels.
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>>50055140
XWA's menu screens also have images of simulator pods.
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>>50055115
This is a theory.

Some force theorists in the universe believe that all beings use the force.

That blaster bolt that is aimed at the smuggler, but just barely misses. The Force.

The one in a million shot teh Smuggler fires back in kind and blows up the gas tank behind the enemies? The Force.
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>>50054992
Then make your choice.
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>>50055140
I don't watch Rebels. The difference in quality between it and Clone Wars is too great for me to find it enjoyable.
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>>50055021
There's also the scene where she dons a rebel fighter helmet. The helmet is from a Captain Ræh (written in arubash), whose X-Wing supposedly ejected and crash landed on Jakku. Rey supposedly salvaged the shit out of that wreckage, and is where she got a lot of her nicknacks and shit in her burned out AT-AT. There was also a visual book released that was intended to be her handwritten scavenging notes, that went into detail about a lot of the wrecked ships on Jakku, including the little known fact that the B-Wing cockpit itself was an escape pod and how she rarely finds the cockpits still in the wreckage of those ships.

I attribute a lot of her knowledge and skill as the typical junkyard idiot savant. The kind of people you see at junkyards who know a seemingly inexhaustible supply of knowledge about cars and trucks, due to just having a passion for them and ripping them apart every day.
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>>50055115
One of the largest space battles in recorded history happen over Jakku, large enough to turn the planets main export into militaria and surplus overnight and support that surplus economy for over a decade.

I don't think a simulator is out of the question.
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>>50055115
Considering the scale of Jakku's battle, and the fact that most cruisers were bases, training facilities, and small cities in one, I don't find it hard to believe she found a training simulator.
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>>50055162
First season's a little rough around the edges, and has several "meh" episodes. Second season is generally better, and has some really good shit like everything Vader does. He solo no-scopes a fucking squadron of A-Wings by himself, and causes the fleet to go "WTF IS THIS SHIT, GET OUT FOOLS WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!"
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>>50050470
What are some fun adventures for a two-person Edge of the Empire game? I'm gonna be GMing, and I really don't have any ideas.
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>>50055384
Buddy cop campaign. Steal shamelessly from Shanghai Knights, Lethal Weapon, Rush Hour, Double K, Starsky and Hutch, etc.
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>>50055384
What are they playing? That'll help come up with stuff
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>>50055162
>The difference in quality between it and Clone Wars is too great for me to find it enjoyable

I preffer rebels over clone wars....that said. Yoda left himself go
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>>50055444
The characters are a scoundrel who was the son of a high ranking politician in the Empire. His family was killed by political rivals and as the sole survivor, he fled to the outer rim. The other character is the daughter of a Jedi who got Order 66ed. She's a force sensitive with no actual training, although she has her father's lightsaber (with no crystal).
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>>50055654
I assume the latter is playing a class from F&D?
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>>50055722
No, I think she's branching out into it later. Right now she's a bodyguard and whatever the force sensitive universal class for Edge of the Empire is.
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Is there any talent tree in FFG that allows you to use melee (no lightsaber) with other attribute instead of brawn?
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>>50055427
What about Samurai Cop?
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>Bushido as the Grey Jedi alternative to Jedi and Sith teachings

Good or bad?
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>>50056173
>Grey Jedi
Anon pls.

Just make another force faction. Look to the other species ideas on the force as examples. Like the Kel-Dor.
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>>50056173
There already is a Grey Jedi alternative.

>"Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled, but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love, that's what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you, not condemn you." -- Jolee Bindo

>"Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes." -- Jedi Masters Bill S. Preston, esq., and Ted "Theodore" Logan

And that alternative eventually became the mainstream Jedi MO when Luke got the Legends NJO rolling.
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>>50056221
>>50056275

Woops, I just meant "sort of neutralish".
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>>50056138
No. Only things close to that is that one species that can use Agility instead of Brawn for Brawl attacks (I think because of their tail), and using a non-lightsaber melee weapon that uses the Lightsaber skill (this obviously still requires force sensitivity and buying into the appropriate Lightsaber specialization).
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>>50056310

I don't think the lightsaber technique talents are Force Talents.
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>>50056323
They are.
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>>50055654
Make them fuck
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>>50053994
>That videogame doesn't represent the lore accurately, my abstracted tabletop game does
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>>50056464
>>50055654
>inb4 they are brother and sister
Be careful anon, you know how Star Wars works.
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>>50056602
>implying that doesn't make it better
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>>50055654
She's the muscle, he's the face. Together they take on small jobs or bounties while dodging his old enemies and Jedi hunters. They make a comfy niche in the outer rim and decide their goal is to make a nice life for themselves together and eventually they fug
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>>50056608
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>>50056602
I'm the GM, the Force Sensitive is a Togruta and the Scoundrel is a Chiss, so I'm fairly certain they're not related, although weirder stuff has happened in SW genetics.
comfy/10, I think the players might actually be going for that.
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>>50056669
Meant to reply to >>50056630 also
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>>50056683
Godspeed GM. Make sure to give them a cool smaller end ship like a HWK-290 for maximum comfiness
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>>50050879
>Theres gotta be a threshold where disney listens to the fans right?

Sure, whenever Star Wars stops printing money faster than they can count it.
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>>50056669

>Togruta and Chiss
>Red/white and blue

Sounds like a match made in FREEDOM, anon.
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>>50056842
They have lost money on the Aftermath series a while after the first books release.

I doubt they will rehire him.
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>>50056875
Could a Togruta and a Chiss have kids? What's the status on interspecies kids in Star Wars?
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>>50056917

Oh, thank christ people actually managed to vote with their wallet. It's hard to actually get corps to change their tune with big-ass franchises because so many people are just empty drones who buy whatever.

Still, should not have rolled the dice on a 3 book deal to begin with - this may be why they're more cautious with other authors, even their well liked and reviewed ones.
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>>50056969
Human/Twi'lek hybrids are a thing because of TCW.
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>>50056969
Near humans generally can procreate with each other. Twi'leks can mate with humans too (surprise surprise). I would guess that togruta are too different, but I guess as another humans with head tails race they might be able to under Star Wars' bizarro biology rules
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>>50055154

Don't stop now!
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>>50056991
You should have seen the stacks of unsold books after the release of the second book.
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>>50057160

Put 'em in the landfill with ET.

Or just dump them at Wendig's house.
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>>50057023
>would guess that togruta are too different,
Legends suggested this, but in canon, there is little to no indiciation.

For now, I would say no.
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>>50056917
>They have lost money on the Aftermath series
Sauce, please. I need to see this.
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>>50056842
>>50056917
I don't know it may have just been professional courtesy/protecting the product more than protecting the author, but I saw Pablo fucking Hidalgo defend the tense choice and sense of "Speed"

He did make a point that scripts/screenplays are most often written in present tense so it's a useful skill to not get a headache from it, but still.
>>50057250
Yeah I can see it failing to meet expectations, but not failing to make a profit.
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>>50057364
>so it's a useful skill to not get a headache from it
That's just the thing

Wendig wanted to write a Star Wars movie with Thrawn in it. That is what these books were to him.

He wanted to be the Timothy Zhan of nuCanon. Instead he will be our Post-Breakdown Traviss
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>>50057431
>He wanted to be the Timothy Zahn of nuCanon
Funniest thing I've read in ages.
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>>50057431
How the hell did he intend to get that job? Has he done any actual screenwriting before?
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>>50057524
By using the power of his stand [ C U R R E N T Y E A R ]
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>>50057250
>>50057364

Considering the first one was on the Best Sellers list for a spell, it's probably not "losing" money. But with so many reviews being a resounding "meh", and the bulk of publicity being angry social media posts, it's probably a bit short of projected earnings.
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>>50057160
You mean unsold by the middle-men? Bookstores have to buy direct from the publisher, or whoever the publisher is selling through.

So... fr a technical standpoint, those books were sold, and collecting dust in a store. What would draw attention from the publisher is that they're not getting restock orders past the original release shipment(s).
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>>50057587
Yes, this is what I meant.

I work in a book store and he've sold 3 copies since it's release.

I warned my manager we should order as little as possible, but he said, "It's a Star Wars book! It will sell like hotcakes."

As the new manager, I've made sure not to ask or get an order for the books.
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>>50057585
Nobody looks towards social media posts about books, especially when they're angry and hate-filled. It's mostly the reviews written by people with tact that people listen to...

This is probably the best example I've seen as to why Aftermatg is so "meh"...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/09/04/star-wars-aftermath-review
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>>50057662
The Amazon reviews are generally good.

Just ignore the 5 Star shills though.
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>>50057662
I don't know what's more surprising: IGN panning it as meh or a video game website reviewing a book.
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>>50052735
Their range is only a strategic issue if you somehow suffer crippling shortage if carrier vessels. Their armament is perfectly capable of taking out shielded fighters and fighter-bombers is just a few direct hits, you really don't need more than that if you're the more maneuverable craft.

>>50052798
As shown in Episode IV and again Episode VI, no rebel fighter in operation was able to "wipe the floor" with the TIEs. They had their hands full.

>>50053073
Haha... yeah, I don't suppose many pilots get to desert in their fighters. As for shields, they're shown to deflect at most one or two shots if lucky; superior numbers and maneuvering are far better defenses.

>>50053960
The Empire lost because it was a top-heavy dictatorship whose entire leadership was decimated in a single battle, and the remaining power figures battles among themselves as much as they fought the New Republic. The Empire also lost the more important political battle insofar as the New Republic managed to turn it's battlefield successes into politically legitimacy as the new ruling regime. None of this has anything to do with TIE fighters.
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>>50051074
Slugthrowers are just useful for killing jedi
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>>50057676
*generally* is a subjective term. You find just as many amateur reviewers on there that spend their space typing insults and attacks against the writer, as you do decently written reviews that summarize actual problems with the writing or character devepment. For every 2 to 3 star synopsis analyzing the book's writing, is a 1-star "the writer rapes babies, lawlz!".
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>>50057717
I think both are fairly surprising. Bell of Lost Souls has also branched off beyond just 40k, and wargaming in general.
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>>50057791
>muh maneuverability
Torps, missiles, and the TIE community's seeming inability to understand the concept of a Thach weave can counter that maneuverability easily.
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>>50057886

Seems like that could be a highly desirable quality, depending on the circumstances.
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>>50057662
>>50057907

Exactly. A lot of its "publicity" is just the kind of inane nonsense that most people ignore or avoid. Cut all that out, and you're left with a lot of "I mean, it's OKAY, but I wouldn't write home about it".
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>>50057886

Cortosis Jacketed Rounds are a hell of a drug.
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>>50057886
Imagine the laughs that would have ensued if Ahsoka's death had been at the business end of an obrez.
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So we have racial stats for whatever species Yoda is?
I'm making a character for Age of Rebellion.
Or would it just be better to go with a Lannik?
After a joke that got out of hand, I want to make a character who trolls people to death with Scathing Tirade. And a troll-like species from spacestralia is perfect. Only a pity it can't be used over the Holonet.
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>>50058149
>a troll-like species from spacestralia
Sounds like you want to play the OG Mandalorians.
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>>50056600
>The joke
>Your head
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>>50058149
I don't think they'll ever reveal/detail Yoda's species for the sake of MYSTERY. Like it would cheapen Yoda to give him stats. Even Yaddle disappeared fast after Episode I.

You could always go with a Lannik, they're scrappy little bastards. Or you could use a shaved ewok that speaks Basic
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Teeny Weeny Vulnerable Bump

https://youtu.be/-2muS7PQFSw
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>>50057886
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>>50059054
Looks like they do lose velocity, but molten bits of bullet sting like a bitch.
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>>50059151

Well, spray enough superheated metal in the space wizard's face, he might not space magic his way out of the next shot.
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>>50059226
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>>50059054
A whole cartridge. the gun shoots the entire assembly? Back to /k/ with me.
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>>50059151
Not to mention he can't reflect them back at you. Simply firing a blaster at a Jedi is dangerous, you don't need to worry about that with a slugthrower.
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>>50059226
Sounds like a setback die or two.
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>>50059287
That's 65% more bullet per bullet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i-nMWgBUp0
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>>50059265
Of course in its debut game it was as useless against sabers as every other gun, damned blaster plasma encasing around the round backfired badly.
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>>50059054
>Bullets still in their casings
>Yet another artist who doesn't know how guns work, and has never bothered to do so much as google or watch mythbusters
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>>50059607
No one gives as much of a shit about guns as you do, you autist.
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>>50059607
>laswer sords
>wizard powders

REEEEE FUCKING MY REALISM
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>>50059766
That's like saying just because D&D has wizards and dragons that it's okay for swords to be made of sandstone.
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>>50059758
Not him but that's literally something five seconds of looking stuff up would prevent. Autism would be asking why the trajectories aren't curving due to gravity.
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>>50059808
I dunno that sounds pretty sick to me
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>>50056991
>>50057160
It just sucks because they've already given the Battle of Jakku to Wedig, and that's the single most important non-film event in NuCanon so far. Here's hoping that they can cover it better later on. The optimist inside me still burns for an X-Wing or Rouge Squadron style game that lets us play in the biggest space battle since Coruscant. I mean seriously, taking down a super star destroyer on its own is a great concept that's never quite had the technology to back it up-XWA and Rogue Squadron 3 did pretty well within their limitations, but just imagine a level where you take down the Ravager realized in glorious 4k 60 fps.
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>>50059851
And I should mention, it's not just the graphics, it's the level of approach fighting an SSD would bring. Imagine a totally 3D level encompassing the entire space. Do you dive bomb the shield generators on the bridge, hoping the cruisers will draw most of your flak, or skim along the superstructure and take advantage of trench run disease? There could be a whole suite of secondary objectives to weaken it before the big punch-attack radars to disable point defense, flying into hangars and blowing up TIEs inside of it, bombing turbolasers to allow cruisers to put out more fire, etc. Eventually it all leads to the final attack on the bridge deflector shields, before you finally take down the ship for good and watch it fall down to the planet, crashing into ISDs as it goes.
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>>50059957
>>50059851
Relax, anon. Ace Combat 7 is in development as we speak.
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>>50059822
Yeah, but would you accept it if there was no justification, and it was the same kind of sandstone you find in the real world? Not something magical that does something cool like repair itself after every hit, or turn into an unblockable maelstrom of sand when swung, tearing the flesh from your skin. Just regular old sandstone used for weapons would be fine with you?
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>>50059851

STOP just the though of it makes my want to get a pilot jumpsuit and get all the Ace Combat games to have a dogfighting fix
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>>50059054
"Slugthrowers were surprisingly useful against lightsabers, as when a slug made contact with a blade, it simply melted instead of being deflected like a blaster bolt."

Good for you. You melted it but ur still geting hit by it and now its molten metal....
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>>50060080
It's widely known that a Force-sensitive's facial hair is as tough as cortosis-woven durasteel. That molten metal isn't going to do shit.
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>>50059054
It fires the unfired cartridge because when it hits a lightsaber it fires again and sprays the target with burning fragments
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>>50060182
Molten slugthrower rounds can't melt steel beards
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>>50059808

Swords can be made of sandstone if it's special sandstone or if a wizard made the sword.

I don't think it's hard to tell the difference between magic and ignorance/laziness. Bullets in the air that still have casings is probably ignorance/laziness, though it could be an Aperture Science weapon I guess.
>we fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!
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So now that the mouse owns star wars, Im betting fan novels get shut down all the time huh
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>>50061875
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
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>>50061875

No more than any other non-monetized works of owned properties, I don't think.
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>>50061925
disney is well known for sending DMCA takedowns of fan works
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>>50061875
Doubtful. They've never given a shit about fanfiction
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>>50052949
>>50054264
>>50054656
>>50054716
>>50054992
>>50055154

me....every....single....game of overguessing
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>>50059312

yes ty
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>>50062399

Sounds like what you need to do, anon, is learn how to predict what your opponent is going to do. Then when they learn to predict what you predict they're going to do, you learn to predict what they predict what you'll predict what they're going to do. And when they try to predict what you predict what they predict what you predict what they'll do, you predict what they predict what you predict what they predict what you predict they'll do.
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>>50062489
>>50062399
Or do what I do.

Just trust your gut.

If your gut makes bad decisions, then tell your gut to git gud.
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>>50050800

>>mfw Stackpole used 'herky jerky' in X-Wing: Rouge Squadron
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>>50062525
Lol.
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>>50052949
You see I was playing a list with Hera shuttle with, new Niein Nunb with stay on target, vectored thrusters, and pattern recognizer, and Wesley with VI and primed vectored thrusters.

Ok, so it doesn't fit the scene, but am totally playing that list
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>>50062525
>stackpole
The only decent non-Allston Rogue Squadron book was Krytos trap, and only because it was goofy and it knew it.
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>>50062525
That makes more sense for a human falling badly than a tie.

And the Herkily-jerkily part is made worse by turning it from mildly childish adjectives to extremely childish adverbs. Also accompanying it with "Wibble Wobble"
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>>50062764
Bacta war was pretty good, if only for Booster, Wedge, the individualizing of the fighters, the twi'leks and gand support team, and the cool Star Destroyer defection. Gotta love the story that set up the galaxy's only red star destroyer as well. It wasn't great, I didn't enjoy bringing back Corran's rival and I didn't enjoy a lot of the bits about Corran, but Gavin's bits were great and the war itself was very fun to read.
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>>50062816

What do you have against "wibble"? Or "wobble", for that matter?
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>>50062926
Wobble is fine, Wibble wobble is okay in comedic contexts, but you can;t throw TOO many likes like that into a single paragraph.
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>>50062525
Don't break my heart.
My herky-heart.
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>>50062525
HERKEY-JERK WOMAN (woman)
GAVE ME THE HERKY-JERK BLUES
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Let's play a game.

Someone post a picture of a character or an actor, and others create a character's stats and/or background for him.

I start because I just watched Captain Fantastic.
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>>50062816
Dr Seuss needs to come back from the grave and haunt some motherfuckers
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Okay, so how much experience would a SWTOR era Sith Warrior have?

I've currently got one sitting at 500, is that about right?
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>>50062816
10/10 literary analysis of the difference, thanks.
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>>50064111
Ending things with ly makes it silly if done wrong

I mean just look at Ned flanders. >>50053621
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>>50058178

Taung are like space Predator
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>>50062764
>The only decent non-Allston Rogue Squadron book

Was all of them. They were all great

Shut the fuck up

People like you is why we get Wendig
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>>50058149
>And a troll-like species from spacestralia
We call them 'Yowies'
Basically the Australia version of Bigfoot aka- a wookie
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>>50057931
>relying on guided munitions when the Empire has god tier ECM
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Kicking the hornets nest...
The prequels are as good as the OT.
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>>50064905
you're wrong but okay whatever
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>>50064905
Why do you think that? I'm genuinely curious if you're not just baiting.
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>>50064938
>>50064905
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>>50064946
This is some weak ass bait.
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>>50064938
It's as simple as when I watch the six movies back to back, I do not observe a drop in quality from ROTS to ANH.

The fact is that the OT has just as many plot contrivances and holes as the PT.

I don't know how people can complain about the PT not being consistent with the OT, when the OT isn't even consistent with itself.
In point of fact, the PT is actually more constistent with itself than the OT is.

Also, practical effects can be shit too.
Matte lines are disgusting.

ROTJ's SE ending makes it a fitting ending to the trilogy/saga in a way the original ending did not.
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>>50064988
Personally, I've never had as much of a problem with the plot of the PT, as much as a problem with the execution of the plot. The general plot of the PT I think is a lot more interesting than the OT, but the OT was just very well done in terms of characters and writing, while the PT was awkward and clunky at best.
I completely disagree with you on the special effects, but that's just personal preference at that point.
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How would you stat a Resurgence class star destroyer in Armada?
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>>50065406
Why would you? It's two ISDs stacked onto each other with the bridge tower removed and it looking half-built as if its a Corellian-made Ugly of a ISD. Your shipfu sucks, senpai.
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>>50059967
>>50060011
I want it so bad.
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>>50059957
Considering an SSD is almost the size of Manhattan Island, you've got a lot of choices for how you approach skinning it.
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Newcomer question, is there any rules or missions for 1vs2 players?
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Say they release a supplement for Force and Destiny tomorrow that tries to add mechanics and support for Grey Jedi. What are the best ways to go about that.
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>>50066257
A supplement with no content?
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>>50066257
It's already included in the core rules, it's just how you narrate your actions and how much you draw conflict/darkside points
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>>50064761
ECM in Star Wars only prevents BVR. WVR still works. Hell, the key to winning the Redemption mission in X-Wing is knowing what TIEs to torpedo. And in the X-Wing novels, lots of TIEs go down to missiles and torpedoes.
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>>50066257
Grey Jedi don't need any additional mechanics or support. You'd just play as a regular Jedi who is allowed to have a waifu and emotions.
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>>50063700
'sith warrior' is about as vague a term as 'jedi knight' is. Are we talking Thana "I talk like I'm hot shit but keep getting caught by the republic" Vesh sith or shit like the Emperor's Wrath?
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>>50064905

The Prequels have some pretty good visual storytelling.

Episode 1 is actually rather good, but people tend to focus on Jar Jar and Lloyd as shortcomings that ruin the whole movie.

Episode 3 has some great visual moments and is pretty solid both in action and memorable moments.

Episode 2 is the trainwreck, which combines some terrible acting, terrible writing, which is completely overshadows its few good moments.

Its a shame really, considering Episode 2 has two of the best characters in the PT in it - notably, Dooku and Jango
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>>50066625
>Episode 2 is the trainwreck,
The romance is actually great.
Not joking, or trolling, or memeing, or whatever.
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>>50066168
bump
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>>50066625
my greatest problem with the prequels is the wooden acting and cringe worthy dialogue. Visually, I agree it's got some great shots and scenes
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>>50066707
>no it was shnoke, he sheduced our shon
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>>50066752
I'm not saying the others didn't have bad dialogue, but the prequels were particularly bad offenders.
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Dong Lover.
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>>50066837
This movie never excited me honestly.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Revenge_of_Kybo_Ren

>Kybo Ren
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>>50066856
I'm slightly more excited now that he is involved, but I agree with you I don't particularly need a Han Solo movie. I think they should focus on giving the sequel era more stuff rather than retreading the OT again

>In before TFA is retreading the OT
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>>50066168
>>50066699
This is a general for Star Wars games, you have to be more specific.
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>>50066927
Legends also had a character named Snoke, who died at Endor. One can only hope more obscure Legends names get dragged out of the bin for future films. Names like Skippy, Jaxxon, Manny Both-hanz, Kettch, and Trioculus.
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Is there a reason he's called Kid Fisto?
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>>50067093
He sodomizes children with his closed hands.
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>>50067043
Oh shit, sorry, I mean x-wing.
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>>50066168
I'm assuming you mean for X-Wing?
No official rules, but some missions included in some expansion packs could have some.
If you want regular battles, just give the lone player more points
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>>50067050
There were rumours going around that two of the knights of ren were called Exar and Ulic
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>>50067354
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Are there any other good fan made FFG stuff that isn't in the mediafire? I found one called Sparks of the Rebellion.
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>>50067792
That's actually been in the folders for a while, it's in the Unofficial Supplements folder.
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>>50066644

I wouldnt call it great, but I do like it

The picnic scene in AotC is one of my favourite scenes in the PT
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>>50067888
>The picnic scene
Yeah see, people talk about bad writing, but the part when the talk about how Anakin thinks the system should work is actually pretty good writing.
That scene is good on the acting front too.
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>/co/ invasion

As far as invasions go, /pol/ and /k/ are far worse.

Anyway, been playing with Rey+Finn with Poe as a wingman and it's really solid. Rey hits so hard and so consistently if and stays in arc and Poe is also super consistent between his ability, autothrusters, lone wolf, and R2-D2.

A m8 of mine is running a filthy list with RAC sporting VI, gunner, vader, and hotshot co-pilot with soontir as his wingman. So much damage and token stripping keeps soontir soonting forever.

How are you folks finding things from heroes?
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>>50068110
>/k/
I can see the problem with /pol/ but what's wrong with /k/ Star Wars fans? Aside from /arg/ and its own /pol/ infestation, I mean.
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>>50068147
>but what's wrong with /k/ Star Wars fans
It originated as a 40/k/ thread, but >>50049706 dipped into star wars at points.
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>>50068147
>what's wrong with /k/ Star Wars fans?

There's one in this very thread complaining that a slugthrower's projectile looks too much like a cartridge and not enough like a bullet. Because everyone knows that space gun projectiles look identical as real life gun projectiles.
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>>50068378
That's not really an invasion. That's the regular amount of /k/ fags lurking. Generally if guns are brought up in a thread, especially on /tg/, which has a decent overlap, it'll basically be overtaken by /k/ almost certainly.
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>>50068147
/k/ gets all bent out of shape about "muh realism guns", and a significant amount of them are colossal wehraboos. /k/ is fine when it's hanging out in the crossover threads, particularly historical wargaming and flames of war. Provided they're not plugging their ears and shouting about how panther / king tiger / jagdtiger is best tonk, or how Germany only lost because of -insert one mistake out of thousands here-.
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>>50068434
Oh I'm not the one talking about invasion. I'm just answering the question "what's wrong with them". I'm fine with people from /k/ on /tg/ as long as they keep their "muh realism" away from space wizards with laser swords threads.
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>>50068378
>>50068519
There's a lot of crossover between the two, I've noticed. I imagine it's because both /k/ and /tg/ have an older average user than the rest of the boards.
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>>50068555
I think the crossover has more to do with the historical wargaming.
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>>50068378
I'd understand if people were bitching about it not being muh hard sci-fi, that comic panel really did look silly as hell. Most people who even have the slightest understanding of firearms won't be thinking "it's space bullets so that makes it okay," they'll be wondering why the artist didn't bother with basic firearm research.
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>>50068110
I haven't even picked up HotR yet. I'm hoping to get it tomorrow. I also need another Fang Fighter or two, and could probably use another Tie/sf.
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I'm painting Imperial Assault minis and Sorastro recommends marking elite units by painting the rim of the base red. I want to make alterations to the models themselves because I like making details like that. I have some ironed out, but am looking for suggestions on others.

Imperial Officer
S: Black Uniform
E: Drab Green Uniform

HK Assassin Droids
S: HK-50 Grey
E: HK-47 Red

E-Web Engineer
S: White Armor
E: Camo Armor

Nexu & Wampa
E: More pronounced markings

Everything else, I want suggestions.
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Good early afternoon ladies and gentlemen, I have a character that I am running in an alternate universe Force and Destiny game. A spunky Twi'lek with the Sentinel career and the Shien and Artisan trees. I was wondering what I should start building towards with my stat spread.

Brawn 1, agility 2, intellect 3, cunning 4, willpower 2, presence 3
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>>50069479

Give the Elite stormtroopers unit insignias on their pauldrons or helmets.

Eilite Royal guards could have golden masks.
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>>50069512
If you're starting with a lightsaber, then Shien so you can use it without getting taken out quickly; otherwise just focus primarily on Artisan. It'll depend on your alternate universe and how things are handled, but generally speaking for Shien, I'd say prioritize the right side, but dip into the left to get at least a rank in Parry. If you do Artisan, or if you grab it later, I'd say just go straight down the far left path and grab the Force Rating and Intuitive Improvements; afterwards, cut across from Inventor to grab Natural Tinkerer. You also might invest in Mental Tools first since it's just 5xp and it effectively lets you save the credits on buying a tool kit.
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>>50069751
Thank you sir.
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>>50068555
/k is ok in small doses, I don't mind talking to some of the mil guys who pop in once in there every now and then. The rest are nearly almost all cretins and completely clueless.

>>50068755
>artist didn't bother with basic firearm research.
Some people just orbit in different worlds really, I've known a few artists and journalist types from back at uni days and they're literally the socialist-lefty types who never shot anything or have any interest in weaponry to begin with. They get a gig to draw/paint/write about a firearm and most will just muddle through it based on what they've seen in movies or whatnot. Doesn't make them bad people (or even wrong actually) they've been given artistic licence to interpret something based on a description- rather than say, you give me a gig to 'make a gun' and I'll approach it from a military engineering perspective. It'll look like complete crap of course and probably about as pretty as a hat full of smashed arseholes.

So no one would want it and that's where the 'art' comes into things :)
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>>50069479
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>>50069876
Yeah, but you're a fucking aussie butterbar. You really don't deserve much of an opinion on guns or other people being idiots
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Why is it so good?
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>>50070152
What's being a low ranking Australian officer have to do with anything?
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>>50070152
>t. NEET basement dweller.
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>>50070278
Because from above it looks like a Sith buttplug.

I'd totally buy that...
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>>50070152
I was a Captain for a few years before chucking it in, mostly because its a terrible job past that.
If you don't like it you can try it yourself.
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>>50070278
Its a TIE fighter with a benis
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Let's argue about something else.

Togruta or Twi'lek: which is best headtails?
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>>50070572

Good question. Twi'lek definitely have lekku that are erogenous zones, but Togruta have more colorful ones.
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Looking at the FFG site, I'm confused.

When and where is the Pennsylvania regional tournament?

All of the other states have times and locations listed, but not PA.

I want to go to my first regional soon, but I have no idea what's going on.
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>>50069876
>Some people just orbit in different worlds really, I've known a few artists and journalist types from back at uni days and they're literally the socialist-lefty types who never shot anything or have any interest in weaponry to begin with. They get a gig to draw/paint/write about a firearm and most will just muddle through it based on what they've seen in movies or whatnot. Doesn't make them bad people (or even wrong actually)
It makes them lazy, disingenuous bastards who half-assed a job and turned out an inferior product.
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>>50070615

Are they erogenous? I knew that big, thick ones were considered desirable, but I hadn't heard about that part.

Though that raises a couple questions about the idea of cybernetic lekku.
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So fucking good. How many Imperial ETA-2s were there?
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>>50070549
Tie/Overcompensator
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>>50070698
forgot pic
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>>50070717
why does it look like somebody just marked over the original paint job with a sharpie

does the empire not have proper spray paint
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>>50070656
You mean like all those soft sci-fi movies and shows that don't bother to research anything about space, or vacuum? Where they have people explode from blood boiling, or instantly freeze to death when exposed to space? Or their space ships are elaborate with no regard towards center of mass? Yeah, fuck those disengenious lazy bastards who churn out inferior products!
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>>50070572
Togruta. I don't feel like having some hutt's sloppy 15ths, thanks
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Is there any site where I can find some good x-wing battle reports? There's a few good ones on FFG's forum, but most are pretty poor on description and clarity.
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>>50070572
This is the character my wife played in Edge of the Empire. She has that outfit for reals.
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>>50071053

Your wife is a beautiful soul, and let no one tell you otherwise.
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>>50070572
This is the character my sister played in Force and Destiny.
We're working on getting her a cosplay.
She allowed herself to be cooked alive so others would live. Moments before her death, her Padawan beads burned away to symbolize her advancement to becoming a Jedi Knight.
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>>50059818
That isn't what autism is either, anon.
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>>50071263
Trapped in a room full of flamethrowers?
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>>50071333
whaaaaat, you mean it's *not* autism to give the slightest shit about details in any artistic works? shut the front door anon
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>>50071374
Containing the blast of an overloaded GR-75 engine. The only way to stop it was to vent the heat into the area she was in.
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>>50071426

>Let it be said that Sir Dupre died bravely!
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>>50070572
Togruta. Twi'lek headtails just sort of flop about and get in the way, but Togruta's have a majestic mane of flesh.
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>>50062816
You take that back!
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>>50071263
That cyber-foot looks more like an Astromech foot than a human one.
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What are your thoughts on Ganks.

I think they are pretty neat, and I am trying to get into them as I will play one next game.
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So why do you guys hate saga edition? My group is playing it and having a blast.
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>>50071600
>Get in the way
>Not using them as reins, which togruta headtails can't do
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>>50071778
Are you running either a no-Jedi or all-Jedi party?
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>>50071767

I prefer Gonks.

In all seriousness, they're a fine, kill-happy alien species. Could be fun to play.
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>>50071836
New Thread
>>50071836

First post in gets to make the thread topic.
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>>50065603
I was after your opinion on its stats, not its aesthetic.
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