Infinity General - Defuse the bomb edition

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>al'hawwa gets a motorcycle

>>49563944
In this day of OP's repeating digits we are all blessed, brothers

>>49564019
I'm looking at the old Kum Bikers and the base size called for by their Silhouette, and wondering what I'm going to fill that vast expanse of base with.

>>49564076
I'd be more impressed if it was my number, 22, but I'll take it.

Let's break some ice, who do you think had the worst or most unnecessary resculpt?

>>49564210
The Domaru from the now-retired YJ Starter was just fine, and even fits with the new Domaru, but was retired anyway.

Scale of weaponry worries me very little, as Infinity is sufficiently advanced and militarized that rifle furniture will be sized to the user.

>>49564210
I dislike the new Croc Man. Previous one looked less like a Fusilier in a body glove.

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>>49564210
It's hard to point out bad resculpts, CB is doing a fantastic job on that front recently. Having said that, I'm not totally convinced of the new garuda model; the old one still looks nice apart from the arm-integrated weapons, and the new turbine reactor looks a bit silly (if they updated the profile with something like superjump, on the other hand...)
Not a bad model though.

>>49564210
>worst
Domaru.
>most unnecessary
Domaru.

I wish they made a djabanza with sniper rifle in the same pose as the one from the starter. That model and the hanzakut, made me want to start up infinity.

So what's your next purchase going to be? I'm getting that Red Fury Pheasant Rank not many like the head of.

I wish there was a separate new box of Celestial Guard.

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Oh no, I forgot to fill my Official Infinity Mug with the tears of my enemy.

>>49564528
I like the new Domaru...

>>49566412
Yeah, the Domaru are mad cunts.

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>>49566277
I recently went on a bit of a spending spree and got the following:
Ghulam SWC box
Haqqislam Support box
Odalisque box

Think I'll pick up the remotes next or Bashi Bazouk/Yuan Yuan to expand the Qapu Khalqi side of things.

>>49566277
Kanren's already lined up for an order, followed by a Kuang Shi box in the future. Babby's first steps into ISS.
Also tempted to buy the yaokong remote box but they (together with most other faction basic remotes) look terribly outdated.

>>49566313
At least it's not the Steel Phallus emblem, I'm cool with that. Also a metal mug is an incredibly shitty way to store a beverage.

>>49564506
I thought the same way, but after looking on Angel's facebook page, I realized CB just put up awful shots of it. It actually looks pretty cool in his photos.

>>49567010
Looks like an Imperial Agent. Year of Yu Jing indeed.

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>>49567010
It was speculated to be a Crane agent and this new silhouette does in fact look appropriate (floating coat, a hint of braid). Maybe the multirifle profile?
I'd really like it, too bad I won't be spending $50 or what was it for the Angel book, I don't even have an airbrush and never paint using the studio scheme.

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Hey anon, how are those Angry Asawira coming along?

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>>49566277
Black Friar. I have to wait for the next shipment because only 20 were shipped to my country in this wave and one asshole that doesn't even play PanO bought FIVE.

>>49567608
Angel's instructions are great for air brushers but I've gotten the same info from years of white dwarf magazines and I use a brush..

Cool stuff but I'm not sold at all.

>>49566412
The oversized, duplicated, daft helmeted Domaru?

>>49567740
In God's name, why?

>>49567833
His book is about as expensive as a modern white dwarf, lol.

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Daily reminder that Haqqislam are filthy apostates and should be shot.

>And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.
https://quran.com/24/30-31

>>49568422
its $10??? O_o'

>>49568412
I get the feeling this guy goes out of his way to be an asshole.
He organizes "noob friendly" tournaments (like Limited Insertion + Mercs allowed) with ITS scenarios like Quadrant Control, Frontline or Annihilation and then comes in with a Marut + Scarface list. Or tends to "forget" that Diomedes does not in fact have BS14 or that Martial Arts do not give the model Multiterrain.
He's part of the reason why I actually stay away from local Infinity community.

Can you move under terrain? I have some terrain like pipes that was off the ground, but not enough that a model can get under them. Can you just duck them like you can clear low walls and barriers?

>>49568871
I don't think there is a rule. Technically prone models have S0, so they could, but I dunno about running under low obstacles as you can over ones. It's kind of an unusual terrain setup.

>>49568871
You can go prone to go under it, if you can, if you can't fit through it with the silhouette itself than you can't move through it. At least, that's how I remember the answer to that question being on the forum.

>>49568428
And Jesus said that a male wearing his hair long shames his father. Even religious practice still exists in societal contexts.

>>49567833
It's not a very good book.

I'll be passing on it this time around. Not worth it in the slightest.

>>49569428
Where did he say that lmao?

>>49567010
Bla indeed.

totally getting it, if it's half as good as the LE Joan it'll be awesome

>>49564210
Last time I answered that here half of the thread dogpiled me for apparently having the wrongest taste in the known universe, so no.

new domaru a shit

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>>49567608
I' beginning to think the manga mini might be Knauf.

>>49569485

The backstory of Haqqislam is literally all the silent moderate elements of Islam getting fed up with all the extremist elements. However, InfinityTurboISIS was obviously stronger militarily than them, so they spread into the stars. Though they've still got crazies in there, notably the Hassassins.

>>49570656
Hassassins are basically r/ atheism.

>>49569531
I think it was in one of the Apostles' letters, not straight from Jesus.

Sage because off-topic

>>49570736
>sage doesn't work
I've been away loner than I thought.

>>49566277
I actually just recieved Djanbazans, and ordered Mavericks and fem Pheasant. I'm really looking forward to Pilots, that fem Bashi Bazouk, and Govad HMG.

>>49564528
>Unnecessary
So, a new model of fine, cheap HI that can have duo, stealth and shotgun range CC, and can plow themself throught punchbags and TAGs alike are somehow unnecessary now?

>>49568076
>the badass, perfect, fullmetall samurai domaru.

FTFY
git fucked corpokuk

>>49570656
Don't feed the Troll.

>>49570656
You know you're replying to stale bait, right?

>>49570656

>yet they still practice all the worse aspects they supposedly 'left behind'

>>49564506

Maybe it should be painted green with red as a secondary colour instead?

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Base coats and sloppy front arcs on ready for my game this weekend. I think when I get washes and highlights on here, this scheme will look solid. First time painting sci fi anything and I'm digging it.

>>49572457
Decent tabletop quality already, aside from the base.

>>49568671
White Dwarf is $10? What a rip off.

>>49568428
Low quality bait.
Don't you have some goats to fuck, raghead?

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>>49563944
I came in here just to post this because I remembered her eyes were wonky as fuck.

>>49572457
Are you in Santa Cruz? I feel like I've seen this Morat in person.

Your basecoats are solid, clean, and smooth. Well done duder. This is the time to start adding highlights and/or washes if you want to put in that much work.

>>49573492
said the base isn't "decent tabletop quality" and it could look at bit better. I'd give it a wash to make it look less flat and give it a light drybrush of the color its supposed to be.

He's looking good.

>>49571162
The models are just oversized and have ugly ass helmets that spoil them. If they weren't a faulty CAD design they'd be better. Stats have fuck all to do with it.

Besides which, Keisotsu are a far more important sculpt to get re-done. The current ones are butt ugly, and pretty much all JSA players need them.

>>49568428
how does this work with doctors. Would that mean that all doctors who take care of females or children, would either have to be castrated or be females themself?

>>49568857
Bro, I have a strange feeling I may know that dude, or a dude that does identical stuff.

>>49569531
If you want something realy lol worthy then. Masturbation is sin, but two dudes wacking each other off, is a medical procedure, if there are no women. It is not homo.

>>49575600
Oh bible you so crazy
is that from new testament or old?

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hi /tg/,

PanO newbie here. should I bother with Akalis commandos? my group is just starting out and they wanna do 200 pts. trying to figure out a good build to run, without killing the meta in its infancy.

I really like the idea of combat jumping troopers, but I don't know how valid they are. especially after looking at the mechanics of the jump.
should I always get a hacker to assist the jump?
what's the best use of the Akalis? should I grab a Spitfire or just go the suicide trooper route with a Boarding Shotgun?
is there a point of using more than one drop trooper, or should I forget about them altogether?

>>49576274
>Should I Akali.
Yea, they're good.

>Assist the jump.
If you like, you're playing PanO anyway so if you're bringing along HI or robutts (you should be) you'll probably want 1 anyway.

>Best use.
HAcker/Shottie/Spitfire drop into a good position (preferably behind someone or otherwise outside their LoS) and start wrecking face.

>Multiple
Depends on how you play. A lot of people will say 1 is enough for PanO becuase you want to have enough orders to jam into your kill melting HI. 2 Can be sneaky though, a lot of players also like doing a jump and setting up a unexpected crossfire killzone.

>>49576304
>hackers
I heard in N2 Kamau hackers were great, but I haven't heard a mention of them since.
what do you use nowadays? do you just bring some cheap hacker to spam supportware and exorcise your TAGs, or are assault hackers a valid asset in PanO?

>troops
what's your stance on Bagh-Mari? are they good line troopers for setting up ARO shooting? mimetism make it sound like they could survive a lot of shooting.
is it a good idea of bringing a bunch of mimetism/TO camo/ODD models to up my general survivability, or is it better to bring just cheap fodder and invest in a couple HI and TAGs?

>>49576274
They're alright. No frills drop troops with good shooting skills.

>should I always get a hacker to assist the jump?
If you can. Half the time if you're using a combi or spitfire you'll want to walk the dude on using airborne infiltration because it takes the risk away completely.

>what's the best use of the Akalis?
The spitfire is a good secondary killy unit for you to pump orders into, the hacker is a good specialist and HI/TAG/REM stopper, the shotgun is good for cheaply murdering a bunch of backline troops before dying, and the often overlooked combi rifle can set up suppressive fire in a very inconvenient location to slow down the opponent's next turn. The E/Mitter might be okay for making the combi rifle more versatile against big dudes, I guess.

>is there a point of using more than one drop trooper
There can be, but I wouldn't use more than 1 at 200 points or more than 2 at 300 points. They don't provide orders until they're deployed on the table, so too many can leave you order starved in the early game.

http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=234

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>>49576988

>>49576988
sword in a earth grip

Do Filipino martial arts the only time we ever do earth grip is with a dagger.FFFFFf

>>49577000
I just noticed the CA symbol o_O

>>49576015
old

>>49577066
Oh shit nigga. I might not be as disapointed with Toni being the ALIVE thing if she is now a CA unit.

>2 “Toni is dead” Pins.
>And 2 ALIVE Pins.

Gee CB, I really wonder how things are gonna turn out for poor Toni!

>>49577000
>PanO get their very own Ko Dali
Noice. As a dirty alien I support this.

>>49577109
I might be ok with that just for the off-chance we may see an Odysseus 2.0 vs Sepsitorized Odysseus. That would be glorious.

>>49575310
>keisotsu
>important

Other than being fragile order monkey, i'll never find them anything more relevant than duo samuro m8. But i played more vanilla recently so frak it.

And the helmet thingie are more of personal taste, being autism about them is largely irrelevant.

>oversized

Dude, its been a HI's thing for a while, and they are on the same size with Red Veil and general N3 HIs right now....

>>49577066
Where.... me not notice good

>>49577291
On the pauldron. Not sure what the words around it say, looks like the first one could be 'Toni'.

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>>49577291
>>49577314
It's the Tikbalang emblem guys

>>49577408
It's way too triangular to be the Tik emblem.

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>>49577408
It's not the same as >>49577000

>>49574597
I play at mythic when I can, I think I'm the only Morat player there currently.

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>>49577441
It's probably specific to Toni.

>>49577408
>>49577642

That will be pretty disappointing if all ALIVE turns out to be is "Toni is back, she's fine guys".

>>49577681
I completely agree. What a waste.

>>49577421
Six-sided. The CA symbol has five.

>>49577527
I think you are the only moray guy (at least until the manager goes sectorial sometime)

Dude paint up Kornak. He's sick!

>>49577642
oh come on, there's Toni's tik emblem encircling the final E in ALIVE. Really subtle.

But more importantly
>that Shang Ji patch
could this be the first step towards the Invincible Army? Why is it there? What does it mean? TELL ME ALL YOU KNOW GUYS

>>49576444
Hacking was fundamentally changed. Usually a Fusilier hacker is enough, but for a drop troop list Evo Mulebot is great. As for Bagh-Mari, it's better to take them as a link in ASA. They are a bit too costly for cheerleaders. Sniper BM is Ace tho.

>>49569428
I would be ashamed of a long haired son.

Anyone going to the Brooklyn Brawl?

>>49564730
Yeah its a shame.

>>49577681
>>49577719
What would you want it to be?

>>49577215
No, it's literally been admitted that the Domaru are unintentionally massive. Like, the CAD files were printed too big.

>>49578695
Something new. Preferably Exrah, but anything beyond "oh no this unit is dead lol jk she's back" would be better. Nothing has changed. I expected very little and I'm still disappointed, this is just a return to the status quo of half a year ago.

Hopefully new Toni won't make the new Tik worthless like she did the old one. Who knows, maybe she'll be interesting mechanically. That would be nice.

>>49569428
Get a haircut you hippie!

>>49577408
And how are we supposed to know? It's not like anybody ran Tiks until the profile change. That's like not knowing the new Shang Ji emblem :P

>>49578695
I'd even be happy with just the profile being move to the CA. I'd probably never use it though.

Some monster aspect that was part of Toni's sepsitorised mind could be cool though.

>>49578758
TG, I love my monsteru.

>>49577441
>>49577000
>>49576988
Eduardo is just an arm swap. Who'd have known.

>>49579558
I'm quite disapointed in that...

why not release a box with two Tikbalangs or one Tikbalang with arm options? Makes more sense than a combo box with two different tags

> I'm really just butthurt cause I want an Uhlan and not the Tikbalang..

>>49579724
Oh God, this again?

Just make it into terrain or something.

So I'll be playing in a small tournament this weekend with QK. The mission will be rescue. What do you guys think of this list?

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>>49576988
>>49577000
How does she have BOTH a CA and a Pan-O symbol?

>>49578695
Anything that lives up to the hype. They went through all this stuff with cryptic messages in their site, through audio recordings, etc etc just to say Toni is alive? I cant think of why anyone would be super invested in her anyway (besides a unit profile).

Also I'm interested in Tagline and an ITS campaign, but I have zero interest in Toni's TAG, Eduardo. It's especially retarded that people really wanted Toni/Tikbalangs. Took a little over 6 years for CB to finally make them, but they killed off Toni...and now that Toni is dead and no long a profile, they're making a miniature for her.

>>49566710
>metal mug
>shitty
It keeps a hot beverage's temperature longer while being pleasantly warm to the touch and lasts forever

I'll fight you m8 for talking shit like this

>>49568857
Where the hell do you play?

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hot damn! the new Uhlan is one sexy motherfucker!
I love the sculpt, so I'm gonna buy it either way, but looking at the profile, I'm not blown away by it.
what's your take on it, /tg/? how does it measure up to our other options? I feel like for a little more points the Cutter is a better buy, and the Uhlan is just a somewhat bigger HI option.

>>49582595
You can't take a Cutter in NCA.

>>49582485
The source of everything shit about Infinity: Poland

>>49582642
I don't play NCA though

how important are fideys in non sectorial haqislam?

>>49582472
>It keeps a hot beverage's temperature longer
Since metals usually have quite high thermal conductivity, that's the exact opposite of the truth.

>>49582595
Uhlan's OK. It's expensive though, you really need to get your money's worth out of camo.

Statistically, an ARM6 + Mimetism TAG is actually more survivable than an ARM8 TAG provided no MSV is involved.

The HMG is good, but the Fuerbach is a bit redundant. You do best by sniping at range in the thing, since it has no defense up close.

For general purpose use, the Tikbalang is far superior as it's cheaper, as capable except for Camo Mode, and is more mobile and has a close defense weapon.

>>49583968
Camo mode is great to stay alive in reactive turn though.

>>49578758
>literally been admitted

Source or bust filthy gaijin

>>49583784
They are good choices but not necessary.

>>49582595
Uhlan is amazing. I take it all the time.

>>49582682
City?

>>49584748
What, are you trying to pinpoint me? Nice try.

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More art from the kickstarter.

>>49584808
Yes. Also trying to learn where the assholes are, last I checked they weren't that visible, at least in the Warsaw meta.

>>49584930
That one's kind of obvious 3D art.

>>49584930
>old-style Zhanshis
For once, the Arabs are not the ragheads.

>>49583849
That was my thought too.

I have to assume it's made thermos style.

>>49584628
Any tips on what is. I know I want a djabanza with a hmg, and a bashi bazouka, and a ghulam doc. Cant decide on anything else, aside for remote for the doc of course.

>>49578380
Yes, I play in Brooklyn regularly. Where are you coming in from?

>>49586539

Honestly, it depends what you already have, and what type of game you want to play. As long as you have a strong foundation, Haqqislam doesn't really have any 'trap' or 'must have' units. A strong foundation would be the Haqqislam starter, the remote box, and the support box. After that, you can build pretty much anything on top of it.

>>49588373
Well I have the red veil models. an old djabanza hmg, the haqislam support pack and a fidey with boarding shotgun. There are so many models, I do not know what to buy next.

>>49588964
Remotes

>>49588964
The remote box is always useful, other than that any of the following can be very useful and can fit in many vanilla Haqqislam lists.
Ghazi Muttawi'ah for cheap warbands with smoke grenades to combo with your Djanbazan.
Hassassin Barid for hacking.
Hunzakut for infiltration and mines shenanigans.
Saladin comes with Strategos level 3 which allows you to use your lieutenant order as a regular order and mess around with deployment.

>>49589301
>actually using Ghazi smoke
How's life on easy mode?

>>49589358
Pretty neat.

KURWA!

Oh, sorry. Had a burp.

With the new christmas tree garuda coming out it seems CB has discontinued the production of the old HMG model and retired it from the shop.
So who's gonna snatch it before the stocks run dry? Me, I ordered mine yesterday, I still like the mini and the uncharacteristic weapon can be proxyed handily as HMG or spitfire in my ISS.

>>49589301
If I take Saladin, and make him my main man, how viable would it be to run 1-2 cheap hawza to holo project as him?

I also managed to get my hands on 3 old kum unicycles, for practicly free. I know that they are hard to control, but at 8pts for a cheap smoke laucher, how viable are they?

Not sure I can, get my hands on the ghazi right now.. But I'll remember that they are good.

>>49589488
It would be a viable tactic. It's pretty much the only way to make a lieutenant decoy if you're taking Saladin, since there's no reason to take the non-Lt profile.

Kum are pretty good for throwing out smoke and direct templates, just don't expect them to live long. They're best used as early game cruise missiles.

>>49589512
thanks for all the tips.

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Why u so salty about polish people?

>>49589830
I'm salty about all people. They're terrible.

>>49589885
Fair enough.

>>49577805

>still using incorrect Chinese for the Shang Ji

>>49583784

Nowhere near as awesome without Saladin.

>>49589960
Am new to infinity, what am I missing in the saladin+fidey combo? Is it the deployment in opponents half of the table ?

>>49590152
Not 100% sure myself but I would assume it's that you get to deploy them after everything else so your opponent can't avoid them or set up in a position to kill them instantly.

>>49590152
A good way to counter impersonators is to delay deployment of a dude who can effectively murder them, and then set him up in a good position. Strategos L3 completely nullifies this.

Ah, sneaky. Good to know.

>>49590152
Monofilament CCW, sepsitor and ODD.

>>49584921
What is this suposed to be? the one in the left looks like a grenzer

>>49590542
Probs some (spesific) CA voodoo tech installation, that is part of a mission.

How come the spitfire for the seraph is so huge, while the one for the father knight is so much smaller? They spitfires look exactly the same, just one is bigger than the other. Plus they have the exact same profile.

On that note, where does the nanopulser come from? From the canister under the spitfire?

>>49591803
It's always like that, weapons on TAGs are much bigger than human-sized ones while being mechanically equal. Yeah, it's stupid.

> where does the nanopulser come from
from behind the loincloth, you silly boy

>>49591803
They're different in looks and fluff, but the same during play. It's a gameplay thing, if TAGs had extra special weapons they'd need to be even more expensive than they already are.

That's just the ammo. Nanopulsers tend to be hidden since you don't really need a barrel to shoot out hungry nanobots.

>>49591903
>futa Odalisque haris
muh dick

Why do so many HI wear coats and other assorted cloths? I'm particularly looking at Pan-O and Yu Jing. I'd think the cloth will get stuck in the joints, not to mention that it serves no protection and limits mobility.

Plus, its a massive pain in the arse to paint, especially the loincloths of the knights, where you have to do fancy designs.

Its almost like they ran out of ideas for HI armour, and decided to differentiate them with the jackets they wear over their armoured shell.

>>49592000
Purely for badass appearance. Do remember much of Infinity is manga/anime inspired.

Though I do dislike feeling I have to free hand something when a wide blank space comes up on miniatures.

>>49592000
I think they're fine, they're an excuse to paint something different than just another metal plate, and help say an Aquila Guard feel more elite than a lowly ORC.

>Its almost like they ran out of ideas for HI armour, and decided to differentiate them with the jackets they wear over their armoured shell.
That's exactly what they're doing, but not because they lack ideas for armor. In fluff there are only a few manufacturers that produce hi-tech armor and the pieces are somewhat standardized (as the saying goes, you see a PanO medium armor you've seen them all). So they add tabards and coats to differentiate troops and give them some character. The actual tactical usefulness of such things is still disputable though.

>>49592000
If the armour is designed well the cloth won't get caught in the joints. What will get caught in joints is sand and dirt, which a good coat can shield you from. The right jacket can also can be good for insulation if you're hanging out on Svalarheima. Even robots and power armoured super soldiers don't like being cold, it forces the power supply to work harder and can freeze up joints.

Mostly they're just there to look cool and intimidating though. The tabards are completely pointless.

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How can I make this list better?

>>49592000
Pockets.

>>49592485
Tabards would do the same thing they always did.

A form of uniform or method of identification. If personal heraldry made a return with the Knights they would display it on their tabards.

How many TAGs you all own?

I have 8.

>>49593861
0, but only not long got into the game, thinking of grabbing either the Gecko box or an Iguana. I kind of want a Marut for my Aleph, but I'm not a huge fan of the model itself.

>>49593861
Just one, the original Squalo. It fits the height of the S7 silhouette just fine, but is dwarfed by the base.

>>49593861
11 at some point. Currently 8, and thinking of getting that new Guijia.

>>49593861
0. I'm not really a fan of TAGs in this game. Maybe when they'll release vedic sectorial I'll grab a Marut, for now I'm not gonna bother.

Is it possible to strip already varnished miniatures? And if so how?

>>49595056
metal models - acetone - 1hr
plastic models - power klean - 3 days

>>49595068
>power klean
i mean super clean

>>49593861
None myself, but plan on getting Sphinx and Overdron for my Onyx stuff.

Otherwise I have little interest my other faction's, Haqq, TAG.

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>>49592000
Because it looks fucking cool.
And in knights' case it's because it looks like tabards of historical crusaders.

>serves no protection
It could protect the armour from sand in a desert environment. Sand gets absolutely everywhere with a bit of wind, makes sense to put cloth over armour. I think ditto for heat in cold weather, although with space power-armours this may seem a bit silly (then again Nisses are MI, not HI).

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>>49591803
Dude, Seraph is not even the worst offender.

>>49593861
Two Geckos and a Tikbalang.
Might get a Jotum, but frankly I'm not a fan of TAGs (or mecha in general).

>>49595746
Yeah, Combi Gecko has LI tier weaponry and has two GIGANTIC slabs of metal as guns.

>>49593861
Avatar, Caskuda, Sphinx, Raicho, Guijia, 2 O-Yorois, Szalamandra and a Gecko. 9 for now. Will get the Onyx mini-TAGs as soon as I paint more of the current shit.

>>49595799
>Caskuda
>Onyx mini-tag

Which one?

>>49595746
Don't the little guy's arms get in the way of operating the guns?

>>49595930
Less than you would think since they're synchronized and pretty offset.

>>49595842
All of them, duh.

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>>49593861

>>49596560
I wonder why Haqq couldn't just make a human-shaped tag like everybody else. Is there some sort of tactical advantage to the scorpion form?

>>49596583
The coolness factor is way higher when you like it

What do people use for their Nexus Operatives? Was going to either use the Boarding Shotgun Legate and not put the cloth on him. Some minor conversions as well. Maybe a head swap with a Uniform or use the Boarding Shot Tohaa Igao and do some fluffing up on him.

>>49596633
I was thinking on some conversion of human miniatures to make "sepsitorized" operatives

>>49596583
It combines the coolness of spidertank with the practicality of actual tank. Stinger turret lets it operate hulldown for peakaboo death shenanigans while the loss of a leg means it isn't as shit out of luck as a regular TAG.

t. my ass on the fly

>>49596583
Trick question. Actually all TAGs in Human Sphere are manufactured either by PanO or Yu Jing, other factions just modify them. Nomads compete at the low level TAGs with their retrofitted Lizard series TAGs, now obsolete by PanO standars.

>>49596840
>"Due to its prestigious nature, the Maghariba Guard has been able to gather the funds to replace its old Artefaktech XPR-1 units, manufactured under license in Bourak with the codename Bokböceği (Turkish for “Beetle”). The more advanced XPR-5 Akrep (“Scorpion”) has been retrofitted to improve its close combat capabilities, and includes a cutting-edge anti-ballistic defence system."

The bug tags are built by Haqqislam.

>>49596909
>manufactured under license
implies they still don't design the things however.

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I'd like to thank anonymous forum users for the pieces of advice to make my painting less terrible.


Firstly, thank you whoever suggested that if you want to paint orange, paint a pink undercoat. Saved me so much frustration.


Secondly, I'd like to thank the person who suggested coal black (P3) for the Yu Jing cloth. It's acceptably close.

>>49593861
2 Geckos, Lizard, Iguana.
Seraph, Cutter.
Caskuda, Sphinx, 2 Xeodrons.
Scarface, Anaconda.
12
...
Achilles 2.0
13. :^)

>>49593861
Just the O-Yoroi. I painted the Iguana for a friend though.

>>49597180
That's pink under a yellow ink?

>>49597636
I painted pink, then I painted the orange brown over it so I wouldn't have to do so many layers to get a solid orange color. Then of course I painted the scrofulous brown and such over it.

>>49593861
2Geckos, Lizard, Iguana.

Would own the Szalamandra but it is just so doofy looking I always proxy it with the Iguana. The pilot is an entirely different matter.

>>49597180
Looks great.

>>49596719
Like the Jag models or something else?

>>49596583
The sandpeople are the only ones aware of how much of a liability a high profile is on the field?

>>49598210
Their home world doesn't a lot of trees.

>>49598210
>>49598302

A humanoid TAG sort of makes sense if you're fighting in and around buildings that they can actually climb, hide and hunt around. Better than tracked, which can be easily ambushed and destroyed, of the flat TAGs of haqq that seems like it'll have a lot of difficulty climbing.

Plus, TAG mecha seem the right size for the largest realistic mecha, due to the square foot rule. They've created larger mecha IRL.

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The only thing I like about this model is how my Yin Yang symbol on the shoulder turned out. Overall, it's just TTQ, to my own sadness of personal lack of talent.

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Here's the front of the "hack Tao."

Is it worth it to bring a TAG at all? Non-specialist and can easily be possessed, isolated, or immobilised by hackers out of LoF with no defence. You got to waste 1-2 orders to reset.

Plus, on the rare chance you lose a face-to-face roll with an adhesive launcher, without an engineer, its almost a one-hit kill on the TAG, but to be honest, if you let him kill your engineer then shoot adhesive at your TAG, you almost deserve it...

>>49598448
You need to paint in a colour other than black, use much much thinner highlights, and thin your paints till you get better. Its much easier to paint a non-black (preferably blue, the easiest) colour till you get good with highlights and shading, and can visualise where and how the light will hit the model.

You also need to probably drop complex freehand till you get brush control down. The easiest thing you can do is write the Chinese character 死 which means death, with a sakura micron, should you want to freehand something.

IDK, instead of painting your thins, use a wet palette. Use the standard GW method, basecoat, shade, then put on 2-3 highlights. Get 3 brushes, and only use them. A size 2 for everything other than the final highlight, plus it'll train your brush control well. The finest brush you can get, and a flat brush for drybrushing. Spend more on the brushes, especially the size 2, and invest in a brush soap.

Painting black is very hard. I personally paint dark grey, wash black, and do 2 highlights. Even then, the black highlight is a bit funky, you can't do it like the normal colours, with light source, but sort of highlight every single edge, but give bigger and lighter highlights to the sides with the light source.

>>49596583
Probably something about traction on loose sandy soils.

>>49600288
>You need to paint in a colour other than black
Couldn't, as it's a Hac Tao, black in its very name. Other stuff comes out fine, I just had to bite the bullet with this one as I only had grey primer so I knew it was going to come out subpar. It's just the one unit and I don't know how often I'll use it.


I do use as wet palette and am working on thinner highlights. I thin it through a medium and do multiple coats, and try to clean up with the base color if needed. Thank you for the tips though. Will try to keep it in mind. Yeah, I do need some brush soap, my normal brushes are starting to fray a bit despite my efforts in not making my skin touch their tips and watering them consistently.

>>49600180
It all depends on your tactics with it. In Limited Insertiom, TAGs can just dominate the board. Also It's actually not that easy to hurt a TAG through hacking. It's hard enough against HI. Even with ADHL, TAGs have a high PH save against it. EM is pretty dangerous, but EM isnt super common. Even against Possession, people seem to forget that it can be cancelled by spending a Command Token. And remember that, you're opponent most likely has to spend several orders to stop it.

Like I said, it's all about tactics. You've already pointed out those weakness; now spend your orders carefully just like you would with any other trooper. And if you're bringjng a TAG you ought to bring an Engineer with a G:Servant. Also not all TAGs play completely the same: a Sphinx would play very differently from a Jotum.

>>49600494
probably need brush soap. Can see your lines are thick and shaky. Probably because the tip is not clean and doesn't let the paint flow down. With a good brush, you can just touch the tip to the model, and the paint should flow down. If your brush is less than $20, dump it.

With regards to the external muscle fibers, the one you painted blue-green, the highlighting is too thick, too unnatural, and the lines not contrasting/clear enough. Use the darkest blue ink/shade you can find for that, shade it, then overbrush/wetbrush/drybrush the highlight colour. I prefer over/wetbrushing to drybrushing as it gives slightly more control, but you need to be very delicate so as not to mess up the shaded lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUnRvZGOars&list=PLB0292071C3B38CAC&index=105

"metallics" (In this case, the blue-green musculature) do not really need highlighting, just the method I told you about above. Should greatly improve the look of the miniature. In this case, not too late to ink the musculature and re-do it, no need to strip it.

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>>49600180
Unfortunately if you are bringing a T.A.G. your list will be built around support that element or it will be a very expensive high priority target.

Things like TR REMs, Defensive Fire Teams, and Mines/WB are great deterrents. They go a long way to ensuring the survival of your T.A.G.

For OCF, utilizing all of those elements and a supported Combat Jumper can help with most Hackers. Infiltrating Camo Hackers or Infiltrators with Repeaters are always going to be difficult to deal with.

This is my example of supporting a T.A.G.

Onyx Contact Force
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10
SPHINX Spitfire, 2 Heavy Flamethrowers / EXP CCW. (2 | 106)
UNIDRON K1 Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 17)
UNIDRON Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
NEXUS Lieutenant (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)

GROUP 23
IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
FRAACTA Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

5.5 SWC | 297 Points

Everything supports one another. The lack of Umbra is the price for bringing the Sphinx, but a defensive Fire Team with the ability to start with Marksmanship L2 on the ML is pretty dirty. Add in a Boarding Shotgun toting multi wound jumper, an EVO Hacker, and one of the better TR REMs on the market and you got a decent T.A.G. list.

>>49600786
>one of the better TR REMs on the market
You mean the best ever TR REM that puts all others to shame?

>>49600786
Well, Sphinx needs extra protection, because it's one of the TAGs that specialize in close mid-distance AND costs a fortune, meaning it has a high risk to either get swarmed or not bringing its points back.

>>49597739
You call it doofy, I call it the best looking TAG in the game.

>>49602431
Sculpt looks good, but I literally need the label to believe that's a Hsien. If I ever need an updated multi HI Sun Tzu it's a good base tho.

>>49602431
>MULTI rifle Hsien
>more commonly used HMG is already released
>it's not even a lady
It doesn't look bad, but unless it comes with a tinbot I'm seriously questioning CB's business decision here.

>>49602534
>it's not even a lady
no tactical rock, no pointing finger

it's miles ahead of the HMG hsien, I think

>>49602556
It still has that silly vest around its body. It looks good now because its unpainted....

>>49593861
Squalo - boring sculpt; the gun is especially awful. Also fairly boring on the table; the HGL being the most interesting thing about it.
Jotum - ugly and unsubtle like a brick to the face, but very reliable. This is what a heavy should feel like.
Dragao - feared like hell despite never doing all that much.
Tikbalang - a versatile beauty. It's very quickly becoming my favorite TAG and a absolute cornerstone for my ASA.
Uhlan - lovely sculpt but mostly pointless; anything it does some other model does way better. Anything the Tikbalang is for ASA the Uhlan fails to be for NCA.
- Xeodrons - mostly bought them because I find the various CA *drons sexy, but they are also solid in the table thanks to Haris. A nice, agressive link to complement a defensive Unidron one.
Geckos - I don't even play nomads, I just love the design of these. To be honest, they could do with a second box for more guns, like one with a Heavy Shotgun and one with a Feuerbach.

>>49602431
Gorgeous. I like the pose and the sword at his side, really nice. The HMG version will always be the most popular one though; as good as it is I would have preferred a crane multirifle release, that one at least gets picked considerably more often.

I'm loving this "year of Yu Jing" it's really the gift that keeps on giving

What are your top 3 best looking infinity miniatures?

1) Seraph
2) Double ML Yan Huo
3) Tikbalang

>>49602735
There is a Crane Rank with Multi Rifle though.

>>49602706
>BS15 HRMC
>never doing all that much
If it's not doing much then you're not using it right.

>>49602792
I know, but it's out of scale and out of style compared to the new crane standard. I don't mean to sound like a whiny crybaby, of course there are a TON of minis more deserving of a resculpt right now, I just pointed out that if they wanted to make a multirifle model at least choose one that gets played...I don't remember when was the last time I saw a list that included a multirifle hsien. This upcoming hsien is a very nice mini but I don't see myself buying it, I already have the HMG one.

>>49602867
>I know, but it's out of scale and out of style compared to the new crane standard. I don't mean to sound like a whiny crybaby, of course there are a TON of minis more deserving of a resculpt right now, I just pointed out that if they wanted to make a multirifle model at least choose one that gets played...I don't remember when was the last time I saw a list that included a multirifle hsien. This upcoming hsien is a very nice mini but I don't see myself buying it, I already have the HMG one.

Fair point, I do like the Red Veil HMG Hsien a lot, so I can see where you're coming from.
Especially since it's only 4 points (and 2 SWC) more expensive, and the Multi Crane is an older sculpt, especially compared to the Spitfire Crane.

Question, how well do vanilla armies fare against sectorials? Just finished reading all the rules and these fireteam links seem like continuous mini coordinated orders. The sheer mobility it frees up seems pretty strong.

Also what stops people from doing silly bullshit like bringing 30+ units and winning via shit loads of dice? Yknow, other than required units for the objectives and not allowing this in a group/not being a tremendous faggot?


>>49602431
>>49602867
Looks like a good time to get into the game if model resculpts are coming out.

Is there a comprehensive list of what has/will be getting resculpts?

>>49602739
1. Aquila Guard.
2. Reverend Custodier with Combi+Pitcher, despite her age.
3. Black Friar.

>>49602951
>Question, how well do vanilla armies fare against sectorials?
It kind of depends on what vs what. Vanilla Haqq is pretty powerful due to Fiday + Saladin combo, makes it easy to kill of a key model or mine a link's path. Vanilla Nomads lets you bring an HD+ and two Morans, although Corregidor is pretty damn powerful because Hacking is not the end-all-be-all.

>Also what stops people from doing silly bullshit like bringing 30+ units and winning via shit loads of dice?
No one playing with them and, in tournament environment, time limits. There was a guy like that in my meta, he cooled off a bit with 30+ order lists.
Most armies can't pull this off effectively though and good ARO pieces will shut them down.

>>49602951
>Is there a comprehensive list of what has/will be getting resculpts?
No and CB is not telling anyone what they are resculpting till the last moment, not to hurt sales.

>>49602951
Link teams are very strong, but they're not invincible and sectorials tend to be limited in other ways. Some combinations of units in vanilla armies can be very powerful. CA in particular works best with a mix of different races.

Good defensive play can be a decent counter to spammy lists, but mainly it's the fact that people will eventually refuse to play you or force you to use a turn timer. The game wasn't made for 30+ units per side, so with too many orders it moves at a glacial pace.

>>49602951
Regarding your second question (I'll leave the vanilla-vs-sectorial to someone more insightful than me), no there is not a comprehensive list, Corvus Belli likes to surprise us with the most unespected releases, and sometimes frustrate us delaying the most expected ones.
You may have noticed looking at the online catalog that the model quality has gone up a lot in these latter years due to the company adopting a digital sculpting model, thus standardizing a lot of things like weapon scales. (the size of minis has somewhat increased as well).
The resculpts are steadily rolling in among new releases to bring old, outdated mini to the current digital standard.

>Looks like a good time to get into the game if model resculpts are coming out.
Absolutely, actually it's what I've done. I started some months ago and now I'm slowly biulding an army with almost only "modern" quality minis. It helps that my chosen faction is in the middle of a release spree this year, but there's something for everyone.
Almost.
If you are not called Tohaa.

>>49602739
Combirifle Haramaki
Spitfire Order Sergeant
Iguana Combo

>>49602992
>>49603032

>vanilla vs sectorials
That is good to hear and I realize nothing is going to be perfectly balanced.

>30+ orders
So pretty much how I figured. I noticed some units would be completely murderous as dedicated ARO pieces due to full reaction/neurowhatevermatics. Going with the Battletech route of don't bring a bv equivalent of Savannah Masters to fight a 8k bv lance Its 37 tiny vehicles versus 4 decently large/advanced mechs

>>49602996
>>49603070
I can actually understand the practice of not releasing the schedule, even if its a bit shitty. So I am going to try my hand at guessing old shit

PanO
ORC HMG/Shotty
Dronbots
Hospitalers
Anceint French cheerleader/waifu
Nisses combi
kamua

>>49602817
Not him, but I kinda agree. Dragaos are more of a psychological tool than anything else. Most people hear HMRC just panic, going out of their way to avoid any firing lane this thing controls.

>>49602739
1) Hac Tao Hacker
2) Tsyklon Sputniks
3) Kosuil K1 combi

>>49603164
Cont' my guessing of whats old

Hockeysalami
Djanbazan everything
Murabids hacker
Bashi bazooka Shotty booty still good tho
Odalisques have some derpface but seem fine

ALEPH
Devas
Nagas
Asuras
Dakini

>>49603164
Even though PanO entered the new "digital standard" along the lines of the fusiliers box iirc it doesn't mean that older releases are all ugly, some of them have stood the test of time brilliantly. But yeah, all those you listed are definitely outdated and will feel tiny close to more recent models (except ORC shotty, she's a fucking giantess).

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Budget HVT

>>49603292
Kek. But that might even be too visible.

>>49603277
True, Im having trouble with Yu jing. They just have fugly combis really.

>>49603246
Nomads
COMBI RIFLES ARE XBOX HUEG
Sineaters HMG
Intruders
Moderators

Combined army
Some of the shavastii?? Everything seems pretty on point.

Aryandna
Just look for poorly painted faces or big guns
Moblots/vet kazak but still look fine. New coat of paint is all for promotional pics.

>>49603164
>guessing

- release schedule
- CAD sculpting starts slightly before Icestorm
- ???
- profit

>>49603384
Yu Jing

Celestial guard judging by the model size, the guns look decently sized oddly enough.
Hsien only because of the new pic
Keisotsu Booty only because the old HMG is a travesty and the ML is flaccid
Zhanshis
Shang Ji going by how it is painted but looks completely fine.

Tohaa
All new stuff.

>>49603435
pretty much. There were other instances of digital sculpt prior to that (O-Yoroi was the first), but the new size standard was consolidated in the period after Corregidor starter and before Op:Icestorm

>>49603354
can a high visibility target ever be too visible?

>>49603452
Shang Ji looks good if taken alone, but close to any other new HI he's a literal dwarf

>>49603461
>High Visibility Target
wat

>>49603478
So appropriately scaled to his heritage. The other Invincibles tipped me off really.

Though it looks more like I hate combi rifles almost universally. Nomads combi looks fine, just too goddamn big.

>>49603164
I was hazarding a guess of ORCs getting a box like Janissaries and Brigada did, but now I'm not sure. If it happens, it probably will be next year, with Varuna release. Assuming they don't just toss HMG ORC into the starter.
I am holding off getting BS ORC because I'm hoping for a Tinbot in a box. Y'know, Shotty, HMG, Hacker and Tinbot all in one box and with the Starter ORC that's all ORCs you need.

>>49603461
>high visibility target
I thought it was high virility target.

>>49603566
>4 ORCs
>enough
[angry pain train noises]

It's likely that they'll add a ML profile when Varuna arrives, so I'd expect that to be the fourth dude in the box.

>>49603568
Wait wasn't it High Velocity Target?

>>49603621
I thought it was Heavy violent truncheon.

>>49602532
That's because it's unpainted. People who don't paint are scum.

>>49603654
>tfw almost nobody here actually bothers with painting minis

>>49603708
I'd say /tg/ has a higher percentage of painters than an average warcor only seminar though.

You can take haris and core links with only 2 members right?

>>49603739
Yup. You don't get any bonuses beyond order efficiency though.

>>49603735
I meant my LGS which is pretty sad.
>hurrr I don't have time/money/skill to paint
>durrr I'm not going to pay to some artist because that's too much monis!
>yeah, nevermind that I'm already into expensive hobby, I just don't want to spend my money on playing with good looking minis

>>49603594
>It's likely that they'll add a ML profile when Varuna arrives
Here we go with the wishful thinking again.
When Varuna arrives, ORCs will be the secondary link choice, with Fusiliers and Kamau as Core.
Although an MSR ORC would be hilarious

>>49603758
Seems like valid stuff. Army painter take western euro prices for painted models, which means that, if someone is not earning money in western europe, then having a table top painted army, is like buying 1/2 an additional army. Which may not seem much, if someone already bought an army. But it is very hard convince oneself to do, when you have not already bought all the models needed to play.

>>49603787
They can just follow the 40k channel, and at the bare minimum highlight and shade.

That said, there's no good basic tutorial on how to do a miniature from scratch

>>49603539
well it's certainly not a high value target because no one fucking cares about them unless they think it'll decide the game

>>49603786
I'm just looking at the precedent. Janns and Brigada both got missiles, and Orcs are based on Varuna so they'll most likely be a core link option that almost nobody will take because that's 200 fucking points.

>>49603946
Haha fair one

>>49603934
meh painted models resell worse then unpainted ones. No one is going to paint 20-30 models just because some people need color on their stuff. If it wasn't for store owners not allowing it, people would be playing infinity with paper tokens.

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>>49604215

>>49603435
They used CAD freelancers long before, I think O-Yoroi is one of the first, as TAGs were pretty hard to sculpt on hand/take long time, and Jose Luis Roig did all of them + all PanO + some other, so TAG releases were rare at the time. After O-Yoroi it was all TAGs + some remotes dibe in CAD before they switched to it fully. This means less freelancer work to fill the release schedule = cheaper and more consistent production.

>>49604406
As much as I wish it was true, am not trying to bait anyone. Maybe I should add in my country, but that is how any table top game is played around here. Sure there are people with painted armies, and they offten look great. But the people that own those armies painters or ex-painters.
And playing with tokens would totaly be a thing, if store owners would allow it. People play with weight recasts for a lot of systems anyway. Not of infinity, but I would say that most armies for WFB/W40k are recast. we are probably the 3ed recast country after China and russia.

>>49604532
Poland?

I think in the rest of the world, most people paint.

Also, infinity is definitely on the cheaper scale of wargames, and painting is at least 80% of the hobby for many, and people who just pick it up to paint and not play are not unusual. There's a group of guys who do nothing but paint infinity. They know the rules, but has never played a game in their life, strangely.

Plus, stripping infinity miniatures are extremely easy, because its metal.

>>49602739
Tokusetsu Doctor

Tiger Soldier Spitfire

Iguana TAG

>>49603292
I think you mean budget camouflage marker.

>>49604556
yes. my friend. It is poland.
And while it maybe true that the rest of the world paints their models, although I have seen enough players from ukrain and belarus to know it aint true, the rest of the world is also gay. Which means that not everything that the rest of the world does has to be automaticly good.

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>>49602739
1.Red Veil "Mega Tacticool" Zuyong
2.Combi Reverend Healer
3.MSR Intruders

and yes, i love tactical rocks

>>49602739
/1 US Ariadna fem foxtrot ranger
/2 Fem Ariadna Szaser
/3 Uxia akimbo

More or less everything non scotish ariadna is good, few scoting models are good, and the rest looks too much like cartoons for me.

Volenteer LGL should probably get a honorable mention. If only people actualy used volenteers for something else then galwagian proxies, should could edge out the foxtrot.

>>49605914
Eastern Europe in general is kinda shitty. I'm willing to blame the soviets though.

>>49605914
>ukrain and belarus

Dude, they're like, 1/1000 of the total earth population man, and they're also a bunch of dirty eastern rednecks, so how that even represent the total minis players of the world?

>>49605951
You can just say "i love sexy ariadnan cuties" anon.

>>49605914
I don't know. I'm from Poland, I play Warmahordes, Malifaux, Guild Ball, just starting Infinity and I haven't seen many recasts. Most people buy either new or used models but they use originals. I can't speak for GW games because I haven't played them in like 7 years.

Also some people do paint their miniatures, some don't, some pay other to paint for them but it's not. Basically everyone got their stuff painted sooner or later. I haven't seen anyone that plays unpainted army forever.

>>49596583
Imitating the human shape is haram

>>49602274
Which is why I had to throw in an AD Combat Jumper to root out tough stuff, a full fireteam, and an E-Drone to have the best chances at countering Hackers. The Ikadrons being Repeaters can great extend the influence on an already zippy REM.

>>49601287
I don't like to brag...

>>49606098
you probably do not play vs real Poles then. Probably some semi jew from cracow, or semi german from stettin. Only Warsaw is true Poland with the best ranked players.

>>49606219
Imitating it to look EXACTLY like human (like roman/renaissance era sculpture) is haram (due to chance of idolatry). Just make it remotely Humanoid is not.

But it maybe depends on the sect, the more radical ones probably will forbid it.

t. muslim haqq player

>>49606369
Dude, I am from Warsaw.

>>49606098
Recasts used to be a thing 10 or 15 years ago when I was into GW, but I've never seen or heard of them in the last few years.

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>>49596583
Because GITS

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>>49598385
>TAG mecha seem the right size for the largest realistic mecha

Pfft

Labors do it better, and its 7-8 meters
They're rightfully act like agile light tanks

>>49606438
Probably someone who only came here, you probably like Polonia too. Fagot.

>>49605951
>/2 Fem Ariadna Szaser
Goddamit Mariusz, "Chasseur" is not that difficult to spell or check the store if you have doubts.

>>49605914
>>49606369
If you don't like the idea of building and painting your mini maybe look into videogames or boardgames, they may be more up your alley. Just drop the angry pole persona and stop shitting up this thread, you sound like a whiny north korean boo-booing about the rest of the evil world.

>>49596583
I wonder why the rest of the human sphere couldn't just make arachnid-shaped tags like haqq did. Is there some sort of tactical advantage to not being a sick-ass mechanical scorpion?

>>49606862
I imagine weight primarily. The Maghariba looks really heavy, unlike the lighter PanO, Nomad and Ju Ying tags.

>>49606648
Calm down. Nobody is trying to take your eastern Polish pride away from you. You're free to be the scum of the Earth and violently resist civilisation if you wish.

>>49606908
It's bulky, but I think that's mainly due to Haqq's shit robotics department. Having more legs means you can afford to be heavier since you're spreading that weight over a wider area.

>>49606862
Quads are perfect for stable weapons platform, but bipeds with arms are more versatile and agile.

Haqq using quads mostly because its cheaper and they're lack of robotic fibermuscles technique. And they're more inclined to put much of the heavier firepower on HI's or homemade universal soldiers.

So its purely preferential.

>>49606648
Fuck you! I was born in Warsaw and lived here my entire life.

>>49607055
>>>49606908 (You)
>It's bulky, but I think that's mainly due to Haqq's shit robotics department. Having more legs means you can afford to be heavier since you're spreading that weight over a wider area.

Do keep in mind that you need to transport all that weight as well, a lighter TAG has quite an advantage there.
But I imagine >>49607244 is correct and they use it for stability as their robotics tech lags somewhat behind their rather advanced biotechnology.

>>49593861
8 Currently:
-Squalo. Love the redesign. Even have him holding the Tech-Bee
- Seraph. Built, but still on my to-paint pile.
- Marut. Same as Seraph
- Maggie.
- Scarface
- Iguana
- Gorgos. Looking to sell off my Tohaa though.
- O-Yoroi
I still want get a Guijia and the Stingrays, but after I make room for more stuff.

>>49602735
I got a feeling that the MR Crane will be exclusive to Angel's new painting book (it was reveal at the Interplanetario that he mini is a Crane Rank). Which would really fucking suck considering Joan still doesn't have a general release miniature that doesn't come with a 50usd book.

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The AP sword is green because AP CCW is green with my JSA to contrast the red armor they have. It's time for me to get a new brush. I need to make my highlights great again.

>>49606648
Not sure if trolling, or someone trying to act like they had family in Warsaw before 1991

>>49604716
The camo marker is just the box.

>>49607564
I think you put the fins in backwards.

>>49607643
The fins are that way on the dossier and in the 3d models. The painted images though have them the other way.

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>>49607698
>>49607643
Javier, the sculptor, has them that way, so I will follow him.

>>49607643
Fins can go both upwards (as intended by J. Urena, the sculptor) or downwards (as overruled by CB). There's no right or wrong, from all the hsiens I've seen around the net it seems it's a 50-50 distribution. Personally I'm going downwards to be coherent with all other YJ fins, but upwards looks more aggressive.

>>49607564
You already understood the weak point, the uneven highlights give the mini a muddied and splotched look; finer, cleaner highlights would improve the look of the mini 10x.
I'm not totally convinced of the highest tone on the orange, for example on the hand it looks out of place, it should be more yellow imo.

>>49606748
how the hell do you know my name? stalking me ey?
>>49607625
proud warsawians since 1921.

>>49607900
>>49607917
Oh. weird.

>>49603757
Do you still loose impetuous though?

>>49608320
Yes.

>>49607918
Calm down Mariusz.
Just used a random but distinctly Polish name.

I'm reading that some of you here have 5-10 TAGs, but I really can't understand the appeal of TAGs in this game. What's the point in taking a TAG? I feel taking one pigeonholes a list too much: you just spent roughly 1/3 of your points in the beast, but now you have to support it so you take multiple hackers and engineers in case it gets possessed or glued or goes kaboom, you need to stock on cheap cheerleaders to feed it orders but need to bring specialists, and more guns because despite costing a fortune the TAG can't do everything alone, and all this concurs to greatly limit list flexibility.
It's putting all the eggs in a basket: sure, it's a fucking armored basket, but a basket nonetheless.

Idk every time I try to incorporate a TAG in a list I can't seem to find a balance, it feels like too great of an investment, a high risk - high reward gamble. And I don't particularly like the look of my faction's TAGs.

So /tg/, sell me on TAGs. Why should I give them a chance?

>>49609201
>multiple hackers and engineers
Unneeded. One of each. You can get by without the hacker if you really have to. A few servant remotes will do the rest.
>stock on cheap cheerleaders
Maybe 1-3. Same as any list, really. What a TAG does is really just turn 2 HI into 1 bigger HI. List composition doesn't have to be too drastically affected, you need to check the same boxes.
>can't seem to find a balance
Keep at it, it's out there.
>give them a chance why
Because they're the embodiment of the Infinity system. They are power at a point, and they make use of the order system to it's most efficient extreme. And critically, they have the speed to get where they need to go. They're brutal on offence, and require care to attack, particularly with some careful defensive deployment.

>>49609201
Things with TAGs is that unless your opponent is prepared to fight one, he will have a hard time putting it down. Most people prefer their high BS platforms to mount HMGs, Spitfires or HRLs, all stuff that a TAG can shrug off.

>It's putting all the eggs in a basket: sure, it's a fucking armored basket, but a basket nonetheless
Except a TAG cannot be a specialist. So it forces your opponent to either go for the small specialists, leaving himself potentially open to a TAG rampage or go after the TAG, ignoring specialist and potentially not even taking it down due to it's high ARM.

>>49609201
Also your opponent pretty much has to bring things to directly counter it.

Sure, they likely have an assault hacker, but unless you're walking into a repeater web they have to get dangerously close to possess it and even then a single command token cancels it. The other direct counters, ADHLs and stuff like Panzerfausts, aren't all that commonly used in my experience. TAGs don't have much of a presence in the game so people don't bring the tricks to hate them readily.

Of course, depending on your locals, it could be different as well as people adapting when you manage to sweep hard with a TAG one day.

>>49607918
>proud warsawians since 1921.

Ah, so peasants with delusions of grandeur. Come back when it's at least 100 years.

>>49609237
>>49609307
>>49609309
Ty for the answers. I'll try again to wrap my head around TAG listbuilding, maybe this time I'll come to a result that's not outright retarded. Seeing as TAGs are expected to be relevant in the upcoming Tagline event (whatever it entails) maybe I'll bite the bullet and buy the Guijia, so I can start sucking at actually using it. You sure make it sound like I'm missing out something by not trying them.

>>49609721
Big models are fun. Coming from a long history of GW and PP games I enjoy having at least one big dude to toss around.

Why do you think I play Haqqislam? I get the biggest TAG!

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>>49609201
>>49609237
>>49609307
>>49609309
>>49609721
>>49609738
Monoswords, Son

>>49609863
Damn Ariadna and their anti-TAG knives.

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>>49609874
I actually play JSA, Seriously thinking about running these as my lists for a limited insertion event. I haven;t tried karakuri before, and shikami have been hit and miss, but I like the idea of just flooding the table with HI specialists

>>49610022
I've just had a handful of times some AD or camo guy slip near my TAG with a T2 knife and kill it.

>>49609201
>>49609309
The reason you can't find a balance for tags is because they're fucking shit. No serious tournament list or player would use any normal non-cheese tag. Nuff said.

>>49610209
>no true caledonian

>>49610209
What's the difference between a "normal" and a "cheese" TAG list?

>>49602431
Where do these pics even come from?

>>49610022
>a limited insertion event
>19 orders
I think you misunderstand what "Limited Insertion" means.

>>49610544
He's stuck two different lists onto it. Read his post.

>>49610544
Nevermind, just saw it's two lists in one.

>>49606369
And now I'm gonna paint all my Infinity stuff. Both factions. Just to spite you, in the traditional Polish way.

słoiku :P

>>49607564
What colours did you sue for the cloak?

>>49611263
Privateer Press's Coal Black, who someone else suggested to me as detailed
>>49597180
and to build up the highlights I mixed it with the nearest equivalent to sunny skintone I had, which in that case was Midlund Flesh (P3) but I imagine any medium light flesh tone would work, or even desert sand. For the shades I used watered down black.

You can take a look here if you want a relevant tutorial building up on something more impressive.

http://fantasygames.com.pl/cape-painting-tutorial/


For the white parts, I used Frostbite highlighted by morrow white.

Come to think of it, it's kind of strange I used all P3 colors with that, as I have rather few overall.

>>49611357
Thanks!

>>49610260
Cutter is a cheese TAG, due to TO making it almost unkillable. Jotum barely qualifies due to its resilience. Avatar due to its resilience and sepsitor plus.

Time for a new thread?

>>49612278
>serious players don't use tags because they are shit
>except these ones they are cheese

Are TAGs shit or not?

>>49612455
Get in here.