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Live Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo Match 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpW10DPHeQ

Talk about Go, professional Go games, /tg/'s Go tournaments, and how to git gud at Go. Newbies welcome; most of us suck anyway.

Last thread: >>46011565
Basic links:
Information, how to play: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BeginnerStudySection
/tg/'s favorite server: https://online-go.com/
/tg/ group: https://online-go.com/group/968

Best places to go after reading the beginner study section:
Problems: http://goproblems.com/
Smallest groups with two eyes: http://senseis.xmp.net/?SmallestGroupWithTwoEyes
Easiest to remember opening: http://senseis.xmp.net/?ChineseOpening
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Post predictions

I say AlphaGo takes the game.
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Please take a moment to think fondly of our lord & savior, Captain Dylan Hunt.
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>>46026627
LSD
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>>46026627
I think Mike is going to take this one easily, Chris has shown lots of weakness and Mike is really good at abusing him
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>>46026627
Have you even been following the game? Have you even played go dummy?
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>>46026654
please leave. at least have some shame about being a fucking redditor and not bring it up

>>46026647
i agree. mikes thickness is too much and hes going to punish chris all night long
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>>46026656
I believe in the Alpha. Stay mad beta nerd
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It's a vulgar move, Chris. VULGAR!
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>points to the womb
>this is a shape
>yea it's the face of a horse, or monkey
kek
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>>46026697
its not even a matter of belief, it is losing provided Lee doesn't outright blunder
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>>46026627
LSD wins with that invade
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>>46026717
M8 if your going to bitch at someone for posting something from reddit don't be surprised when people make fun of you for being a redditor.
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Threadly reminder that all Lee Sedol ever had to do to beat the machine was pick up the knife.
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Hmmm. Another white man. Could he be with the AlphaGo team?
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>>46026636
Is this going to be a recurring meme now?
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>>46026804
>tfw even the pros certified by the american go association aren't white
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What is this man's accent?
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huh I'd really like to see that live heatmap.
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>>46026815
swede?
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>>46026812
They are literally all Asian.
AGA a shit, EGF is where it's at
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>>46026815
Vaguely scandinavian
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>>46026824
>>46026830
I can confirm he is Austrian. Found his website.
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>>46026830
Stops copying me!
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>>46026830
>>46026824
Well well, Europe was the best at Go after all
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It's getting pretty late. I don't know if I can stay up for the whole thing.
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>>46026825
obviously, aga employed garlock
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>>46026855
how do I get off your mailing list?
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mike has the youtube channel or chris?
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>>46026894
Google Deepmind.
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just found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7D88DMtP0
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>>46026917
young mike-chan is so kawaii
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>>46026917
Redmond really benefits from a qt asian chick that keeps the game within 5 future moves.
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>>46026917
there's a bunch of videos with subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns96XaUmpR4
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>>46026917
I have a friend who moved to Japan and it sounds so dumb to hear him do(or try to do) all the same mannerisms than native speakers do. Of course Redmond has lived in Japan most of his life so it's a bit different but this reminded me of that anyway
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>>46026917
WEEB
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>>46026944
It's good to assimilate if you're an immigrant.
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>>46026944
it's just a cringe when japanese dudes try to talk like a rapper.
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>>46026944
talking without the mannerisms is strange or just right out rude

the actual problem for western weebs is that they learn from animu or their nip girlfriend and so they pick up female mannerisms which makes them look like retarded faggots
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>>46026970
>weeb
>nip girlfriend
lets just say the learn from anime

>>46026962
Yeah, I guess. Sounds pretty funny to me anyway
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>>46026963
talking like a nigger isnt the same thing as just speaking in the normal and polite way

so you wouldnt want to pick up japanese yankee talking style but you would want to learn and copy the normal style
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Mike just BTFO Chris again

>I should mention I only do the double move when I'm commentating
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>>46027003
Nah that wasn't a shot at Chris
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>>46026808

Look m8 there's a limited amount of Go-related nerd media.

Do you want content in these threads or not?
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>>46026970
An old Japanese business guy once said to me "You hold your chopsticks even better than I do." A couple years later I realized he was probably saying "Aren't you dainty?"

Ear redenning.
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Who do you guys say is winning at this point?
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>>46027023
People who went to sleep 4 hours ago
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>>46027023
Do you really want to know from someone who's never played before
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>>46027023

Notta clue.
Could go either way.
Looking good for Lee though.

>>46027038

Kinda this...
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>>46027018
There's limitless "Let's look at this board position" or "what should I have done here" type questions. But I personally don't mind a little memery now and then.
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>>46027017
How was it not?
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>>46027057
He was just playing off the setup Chris provided. It would have been a shot if he had shot down the joke.
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Just got here, how's the game going. Is sedol getting owned?
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I think white is gaining the upper hand.
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>>46027072
He did by going on about how he would never do that in a tournament or any other game and it would be a loss by forfeit
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Based custodial ITT.

>>46027109
A little early to tell, but nobody is clearly dominating.
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>>46027109
AlphaGo isn't going loony, so it could be doing pretty well
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>>46027115
well you are dumb
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>>46027109
Pretty even at this point.
No nonsense moves from AlphaGo yet.
Not a good sign for LSD.
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>>46027038
i have work in the morning
i know that i'm not going to see the end of the game live
but for whatever reason i'm not going to sleep just yet
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>>46027038
But I just woke up.
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>>46027138
AlphaGo did that weird thing with the Tombstone tesuji
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>i would call alphago a strong player, too
mike-senpai noticed alphago
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>>46027018
Never said it was a bad thing fren
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>>46027140
I have a midterm in the morning.
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>>46027154
I should also be waking up soon but instead I decided to watch Mike verbally beat the shit out of Chris for 4 hours.. and those hot calves
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>>46027156
That was just weird not stupid.
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>>46027179
>hot calves

im glad more people take notice
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>>46027184
Redmond said it was an obvious bad play
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I'm going to marry AlphaGo!
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>chris phone goes off
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>>46027198
Seemed so but AG made up the difference elsewhere so it wasn't in hindsight such a bad play.
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Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in ... a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory.
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>>46027184
I got the impression it was really bad. He said it was on route for a guaranteed LSD win for a bit.
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Wtf was with the AYY LMAO sounds? Was it AlphaGo trying to speak to us?
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Ke Jie has called victory for AG. He's called every game correctly so far.
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>>46027247
Have they given a reason?
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>>46027220
AG turned it around.
Not much else to say.
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https://twitter.com/demishassabis/status/709635140020871168
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>>46027252
Given he's ranked number 1 in the world he's quite possibly the most reliable source you can get.
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>>46027156
>>46027270
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>>46027252
White has complete control of the center and stonewalled the left side.
Got it in the bag.
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>>46027274
Well most of the time they give some indication on what tips them off. Being coy is for showoffs.
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>>46027270
>>46027280
This guy is just repeating what the commentary says an hour later. Same with LSD's god move last game. Everyone saw what happened and then he posted after the game was long over.
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>>46027247
but ke jie is an annoying bitch
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>>46027303
Teen prodigies are the worst
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>>46027303
An annoying bitch who happens to be the best in the world at go.
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>>46027303
I hope AlphaGo kicks his ass.
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is there stream without commentary
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>>46027330
just mute the stream?
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>>46027313
teen anything is the worst
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>>46027330
its called pressing mute
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>>46027330
https://online-go.com/review/118817
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>>46027324
It will, give it another year of training. It will be a clean 5 - 0.
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>>46026585
1) I'm not sure that goproblems.com is the best online source of tsumego. I would instead recommend the tsumego on Sensei's Library.

2) The last two links are just clutter.

3) If you're making a OP based around beginner help, then you should mention the youtube lecturers Nick Sibicky and Andrew Jackson.

4) You should mention Gogameguru and maybe Gobase.

Please don't make me remind you again.
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>>46027370
its not even good enough to teach anything new to the go world

its also ignoring that fact how much betago cheats and its just not a truly fair match up with a single human player

let lee roll in with a fiber connection, a white board to doodle on, a stack of go book and charts, and maybe a few consultants and maybe it will be fair

of course that wouldnt be a good match up though because betago would be smashed

its like having a car enter a marathon race (and then still getting beat kek)
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>>46027370

Ke Jie is only 18 years old. How do you know HE'S not the one who'll power up in another year?
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>>46027425
There are many layers to this bait.
Like an onion or ogre.
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>>46027425
What are you talking about? Fair match? That's the whole point.
You need some sleep
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>>46027440
Most men peak at 24 for intellect. TICK TOCK.
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>>46027425
AI will NEVER be better than a human on an even playing field.
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>>46027442
its literally not bait. its not my fault that youre such a lonely looser that you waifu'd a fucking male gendered chromebook
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>>46027330
you can watch the game on kgs and igs. i prefer igs so you can go back through the moves without opening a .sgf
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>>46027425
>let lee roll in with a fiber connection, a white board to doodle on, a stack of go book and charts, and maybe a few consultants and maybe it will be fair
No one touches the machine when they press play. Its been using a frozen image they built before the first game started. Its not like there are people tweaking shit while stuff is going on.
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>>46027425
let AG evolve for 3 billion years
(or be intelligently designed by God)
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>>46027425
bad aji, the shape works locally but can not make life
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>>46027462
but wouldn't an AI playing a human on a even playing field be simply another human?
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>>46027460
>2 years left
>still not smart
oh no
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>>46027480
its running off of around 2000 total cpus and gpus

does lee get to consult with 2000 go players for moves?
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>>46027483

kek
you win the thread sir
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>>46027462
Precisely, neural networks are just the latest meme. Humans of course are mystical beings who use quantum mechanics to process the world around themselves and we all know that quantum computers are at least 100 years away.
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OH FUCKING BURN
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>I somehow digressed. Maybe I was looking at a go board
holy shit
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>>46027532
>>46027528
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>>46027502
Why are you drawing arbitrary lines in the sand while the actual player of the game has no issue with this situation?
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>>46027502
... nigga what? This is not an apt comparison.
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>>46027540

>What's he thinkin'
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>>46027540

based shifty-eyes
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>>46027542
>>46027549
im just pointing out that if you think its a 1 for 1 fair match youre retarded. and this has been the argument that iv seen people make, that its totally fair and if the human were to have any possible "advantage" it would be absurd cheating on their part

its fine if the player has no problem. if you want to call it a fair match though thats objectively wrong
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30 seconds!
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>>46027584
I agree the human has orders of magnitude more neurons than AlphaGo! He's even allowed to think before and after the match!
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>>46027580
What's for lunch?
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>>46027540
>Chris checking his phone and being annoying
>Michael wishing he was Asian and jealous of >the Korean commentator
>Camera guy is ruining the shot by being in it
>Google QT is staring into your soul.
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>chris trying to convince people he knows how to play go
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OVERTIME!!!
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>>46027584
yeah i mean it's definitely not fair, the ai has two thousand cpus and humans only have billions of years of evolutionary development
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>>46027502
Do you have any idea how computers even work at all?

Do you really think 1 cpu is somehow equivalent to 1 professional Go player?

You are talking out your own ass right now.
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>>46027617
>QT

Maybe if you mean Quentin Tarantino
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>>46027584
Your problem is you think these pros for AlphaGo make it better than Lee Sedol. Did you know that AlphaGo was not able to learn from its loss in the last game? It wont be able to learn from it until after the 5 matches are done. Lee Sedol can learn from each one of his matches and figure out what holes there are in AlphaGo's code. Its obvious that Lee Sedol can beat the machine. He would just need to take time to find those holes.

You are mistaking this as an event to try to beat a human. The people who made AlphaGo see it as an opportunity to tune their AI. The losses are just as important as the wins at this stage to them.
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>>46027635
She looks like shes wearing a paper mask of another woman
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>>46027633
>Do you really think 1 cpu is somehow equivalent to 1 professional Go player?

Not currently, and not in the conceivable future, now that moore's law is dead.
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>>46027600
alphago plays games against itself continuously between matches
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>>46027667
Nope. It's completely frozen.
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>>46027667
No it does not. The one facing Lee this match is the exact same as the one that faced him in game 1.
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AlphaGo realized it lost.
Fun.
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FUCKING CHRIS
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are you okay???
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Redmond is getting confused about the stuff on the right
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>>46027723
Why do you say that?
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Please give AlphaGo your strength
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>>46027747
never mind caught up to the stream.
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AG BTFO
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>>46027747
It's making shit moves again
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>>46027747
Forcing moves for no reason, like the last game.
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>>46027747
Starting to play nonsense moves
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>>46027747

It's making pointless moves, which means it knows it's behind and the only possible way it can make up the difference is to play a forcing move and hope that Lee Sedol is retarded enough to not respond to it
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google's face when mike says "berserk"

they must be so upset
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>>46027747
Its tiling right now. Its a sign the Monte Carlo tree search that its finding a move that will win .000001% or some crap and is playing it.
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>>46027767
>>46027768
>>46027772
>>46027776
Yeah I was behind like 30 seconds.
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ARE YOU SURE?
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I think the reason it does plays like that is that the human plays that AlphaGo learned from were only good amateurs so there was a slight chance for the forcing move to be missed as opposed to 9-dans that would never miss that. The weights for forcing moves are simply incorrect.
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Last minute overtime
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>>46027815
I'm pretty sure for the most part it played against itself
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>lee fumbles his last-second stone placement
>loses
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>>46027815
the google race traitors said that human games only matter to set things off and have almost no effect at this point
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>>46027820
the "human" layer was taught based on high level amateur games played on the internet.
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>>46027815
>>46027834
its repeated over and over and over and over that the problem is a common sight with monte carlo algorithms

if it was actually playing like even a good amateur in those situations it would be playing better
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>>46027828
It's a show match, even if he goes over the last 1minute they will continue and Lee is know for his last second placements
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the cold hard reality of AI dominance is about to crush meatbag lsd
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>>46027878
i take it youre not watching the game?
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>>46027894
Lee just fucked up
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Ke jie is still calling for a LSD loss...
What does he see that we don't?
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It's funny when we have to wait for the players to catch up to Mike's moves instead of the other way around.
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>>46027923
lees known that was going to happen since forever anon
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>>46027938
He's better at predicting the late game than the early game.
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>>46027938
Why isn't basedMike playing against AlphaGo
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>>46027938
its because lee is trying to think of moves far into the future. his current moves are apparently easy to see for someone like mike
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>everything is proceeding as I have foreseen...
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Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen
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>>46027976
>not using his classic raised eyebrow lookabout or his fucking with chris smirk
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>>46027949
>wanting commentary by Lee Sedol and Chris Garlock
No thanks
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This seems like a very back and forth match.
Can't tell who'll come out on top.
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>>46027967
>>46027976
"I am growing stronger everyday" says local 9-Dan
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>>46027976
fucking neo
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>>46027981
I don't have an archive of Redmond images yet. I just took the first closeup shot I saw on the stream.
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Lee's hands are shaking.
A sign of worry or eagerness?
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>>46027982
>commentary by Lee Sedol
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>>46027999
mike is also 52 years old
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all this hype is making me want to learn go
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alphago is winning retards
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>>46028011
No it isn't, stop cheerleading for Skynet.
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>>46028006
Lee literally always looks like he's about to have a nervous breakdown. Wouldn't worry too much about his body language.
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>>46028006
Both, probably
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>lee not even using all his time

we /godsmove/ now lads
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>>46028011
ke jie says a certain AG win also.
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>>46027948
Everyone is.
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>>46028009
>>46027999
trips don't lie

>yfw AlphaGo drew a white rabbit with its stones
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>>46028042
It's just easier.
Less possible moves.
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What's this bizarre accent that Redmond gets every so often? He sounded German when he said "theoretical"
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why did they play the 4th and 5th game
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>"Well it's not necessarily a ko."
>"............gotcha...."

lmao no u don't u liar
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>>46028049

He's a Jew
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>>46028030
I want AG to win but I also want Ke Jie to be wrong. So win-win?
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"i was gonna predict that senpai""you're an idiot""xD"
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>>46028049
because he lives in weeb lands and is married to a nip. i imagine he rarely speaks english

see >>46026917
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>>46028049
Japanese?
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>>46028068
How is that a win-win?
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AlphaGo going into over time.
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>>46028045
I can't see it because I don't have autism
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>>46028077
i thought he was married to a chinese
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>>46028084
the statements "AlphaGo wins" and "Ke Jie is wrong" are mutually exclusive.
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AG in overtime for the first time.
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LEE WON WITH MOVE 203
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>>46028093
I can kinda see it but it's quite a stretch.
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>>46028093
maybe you can't see it because you do have autism
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>>46028111
really? HUMANITY SAVED
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>>46028099
oh yeah maybe so. i wonder if shes speaks japanese and lives in japan though since mike works as a commentator for a japanese tv channel
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>>46028106
But ke jie is predicting Alphago winning.
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So what's the main difference between this an using the star point as an opening?
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why does lee sedol always look like he's ten seconds away from either breaking down in tears or going postal with a machine gun
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>>46028122
Therefore if AlphaGo wins he's happy about AlphaGo winning
If AlphaGo loses Ke Jie is wrong and he's happy about Ke Jie being wrong.
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>>46028122
AlphaGo wins - I'm happy because AlphaGo won.
AlphaGo loses - I'm happy because Ke Jie is wrong.

This is not complicated.
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>>46028135
because hes an autistic asian go robot
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What the fuck is happening
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Wrap it up humanailures, the chubby korean man just declared that alphago wins by half a point.
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hmm this is nice because mmhmmm
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>>46028135
Resting murderer face.
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>>46028137
>>46028142
Sorry misunderstood what you said.
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>>46028153
NodOfCompleteIgnorance.webm
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>>46028145
Someone left an extra white piece on P11 and it's making me autistic.
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>>46028145
It's a professional level game of Go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)
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"white has a slight advantage"
So it turns out to be all according to plan.
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>>46028163
Black on Q13 as well.
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>>46028169
yer a cheeky cunt I'll give you that m8
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tfw michael accidentally left an extra white stone on the right side of the board
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>>46028145
One side has to surround the other color's pieces with their own while also not being surrounded.
Very simple rules, fucking ridiculous inhuman mind games
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"But i think at this point white is going to have a lead of a few points"
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>>46028153
i was really annoyed by him for the first couple of games but now I just see too much of myself in him to really dislike him

hits pretty close to home - having virtually no idea what's going on around him but having to scrape by with bullshitting
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WILDCARD PLAY BY LEE
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>>46028123

It just changes the sequences that can happen.
Generally two stones "underneath" the star point is more secure than one on it and one under it.
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>>46028196
>hits pretty close to home - having virtually no idea what's going on around him but having to scrape by with bullshitting

thats called being a human with a job
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You guys think we're going to play until the end or will one of them resign?
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>>46028202
GOD'S HAND
O
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H
A
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D
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did Lee just pass?
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>>46028213
commentators seem to think we might actually see the end of this one
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>>46028178
>>46028163

Phew
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>>46028208
In this case, his actual job is to convince people to play go. Given the fact that we have a go general on /tg/ now, he's doing alright.
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>Alphago plays the extra stone like 3 moves after Michael removes it
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do any of you here even follow go? its a cringe to read some of the things written here. also, lee sedol simply does not lose in late game, period. hes got this
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>>46028216
yfw lee wins
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>>46028235
>michael doesn't put it down until 3 moves after alphago played it
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>>46028237
I'm going to laugh at you when AG wins.
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>>46028237
not that im saying youre wrong but the single best player on earth says lee lost

are you such a go master that you have a better opinion than him? shut the fuck faggot and go suck some dick
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>>46028237
you'd probably expect the computer to have the upper hand during the end game, seeing as how it could have the entire board played out by this point, or nearly the entire thing.
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Isn't alphago like 20 points behind?
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they should do a best of 7, honestly. kind of bullshit that Alphago wins best of 5 when with these last couple games it really looks like lee's finally worked out how to beat it
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>>46028268
On territory but AG also captured a bunch of black stones.
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>>46028272
As someone who's completely uninformed, I think that best of 5 is the standard for professional go matches.
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>>46028272
I have been wondering about this. I was thinking they would add up the points from all the games to find out.
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>>46028284

They never do this weird shit where they continue playing on even after the series is lost. An actual tournament would have been a straight best of 5 which ended after AlphaGo 3-0'd him.
>>
WTF is going on in the top left? They're playing these 2-stone moves but top left looks unresolved AF. Am I missing something?
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>>46028259
what means is that if lee has an advantage then he isn't going to lose it in endgame because endgame is simple enough for both computer and human that he can play perfectly or only negligibly less than perfectly.
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>>46028296
Well neither are they training an AI in normal play.
Remember that the Human vs AI match is only the secondary point of this. The main point was to figure out problems in the AI.
>>
AlphaGo making small confident moves.
Thinks it won.
>>
oh shit alphago thinks it's won?
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>>46028328
That sounds like a bad idea when it's this close.
>>
LEE ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>
Where the fuck did he go
>>
GOTTA PEE
>>
LEE FLEES
LEE FLEES
LEE FLEES
LEE FLEES
>>
Smoke break
>>
lee sedol leaving to jump off the roof
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did he just leave? wtf?
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>>46028328
it did. Lee has left to slit his wrists
>>
I-is he coming back?
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Lee going to order some more fans for tonight
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R I P L E E
I
P
L
E
E
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>>46028333
Maybe not as close as it looks.
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Why is Lee allowed to leave? He remembers the board position and can play it in his head.
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>>46028354
god DAMN
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>>46028282
Chinese scoring captures don't matter.
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>>46028047
It's even more true for a computer. They can rely more on hard number crunching and less on trying to use neural nets to attempt to emulate nebulous human concepts like creative play and intuition. A computer playing conservatively in the endgame is rarely a good sign.
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>>46028361
It's a fucking showmatch.
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>>46028361
he still only gets to put down one stone though
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>>46028361
i was about to ask this, seems kind of cheap when he's got one overtime left
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Why is Redmond so passive aggressive? He really sounds like he's just barely containing his annoyance with the other guy
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lee looks bretty good with that shadow of a moustache
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>>46028376
It's the most fucking important match of the whole history of mankind.
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>>46028361
I don't know if this is what they're doing, but one thing they could do is have him leave during White's turn, so he doesn't see the new position until he gets back.
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>>46028383
If you had to spend more than 4 hours a day with Chris you would too
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>>46028361
>>46028379
in overtime with your last 60 seconds you can leave and they will stop the clock

i think youve forgotten how long he has been playing. iv pised like four times
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Found the local stream for reporters - no commentary and big board, shows both players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtD-KIcGcNs
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>>46028383

Because he's had to put up with Garlocke's shit for at least a fucking week now. That would fill anyone with barely containable homicidal rage.
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>>46028388
No it fucking isn't. The computer is going to be a shitload stronger in the future, if they would have played this game then it wouldn't even be close.
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>>46028395
he did leave during whites turn. betago played when he was gone. they stop both clocks in this situation >>46028397
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They keep missing moves
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>>46028398
How'd you find this?
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>>46028424
hacking.
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I stayed up for this
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>>46028398
>slowpoke.jpg
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>>46028398
>siren in the background
>>
Lee's hand is on a white stone.
>>
Lee resigned
>>
Lee confirmed BTFO now? Is it over?
>>
RIP
>>
Wait did he just cheat?
>>
LEE HAS RESIGNED
>>
ALL HAIL OUR GREAT OVERLADY ALPHAGO
>>
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

I WANTED TO SEE THE COUNTING
>>
>no count
dammit lee
>>
FUCKING HELL LEE JUST PLAY IT OUT GODDAMN
>>
Well, that's that.
>>
HUMANS BTFO
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>>46028237
Hahaha you dumb faggot Ag won
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is he fucking crying
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*unzips*
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Fuck yeah, Alphago!
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>>46028237
POINT AT HIM
POINT AT HIM AND LAUGH
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>>46028486
yes
>>
What's your rank /tg/? I'm 1 dan amateur.
>>
>couldn't even point out where Lee went wrong
>still got beat by the AI
aww
>>
That was a lot of fun. For once I agree with Chris.

See you all again never!
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>>46028237
>>
Comfy music time
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Humanity is finished confirmed
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>>46028237

i really wish you would drop more go knowledge on us mr go master
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>>46028500
19kyu on online-go
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>humans are special

BTFO MEATBAGS

mass unemployment imminent
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>>46028500
i get too much anxiety when i try to play
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>>46028237
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>46028237
retard
>>
>Alphago is the GOAT
>Betago will make it look like a chump and be able to beat every 9dan playing together with unlimited time
>Public Release Go v1.0 will beat anyone in 4 dimensional non-linear go
Is there no hope for humanity?
>>
Frackin' toaster.
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FUCKING MACHINES HOW DO THEY WORK??

KING CHINK BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

BACK TO YOUR LABOR CAMP KEKLORD
>>
lost by 3.5
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>>46028528
Go away alphashitpost
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>>46028498
i made a lot of jokes about lee committing sudoku after this match but i feel kind of bad now, he's genuinely wrecked over this loss
>>
>>46028237
sry did hear you over the sound of Lee Sedol getting destroyed
>>
lee should have resigned when alphago played that dick move saying it didn't matter if he lost a few points
>>
I can't wait for the painting contests, writing contests, and composing contests that AI btfos the retarded humans in.

This is just the start. What do you think is next? Maybe a chef contest.
>>
H U M A N S

A R E

F I N I S H E D
G O O D N I G H T
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>>46028560
Watson already on that
>>
REDUCE

KOMI
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>>46028557
He should have went to counting because it would have been fun.
>>
>>46028560
I would love a chef bot.
>>
reminder a computer just beat a human in a domain specific area that requires 120+ IQ.

AlphaGo is already more useful in a domain than 99.9% of humans could ever achieve. Not just brute force either, but learning.
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>>46028560
A pissing contest
>>
BOARD GAMES BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>
reminder that alphago is only so good because it is trained on human games

in essence you could say alphago is playing as best as a human could
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ALL HAIL OUR GODDESS ALPHAGO
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>>46028587
Does that matter? It's enough for alphago to replace like 50% of jobs if it was attuned the domain.
>>
CAN'T FRAG THE AG
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>>46028469
That's how Koreans resign.
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Could DeepMind defeat the tomb of horrors?
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>>46028581
Reminder that Lee spent his entire life on the game and a computer made by literal whos decimates him.
Suicide imminent
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>>46028598
>someone actually drew this

I WONDER IF HE WILL DRAW A SEQUEL
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>>46028591
that's really sad. the guy is a god in my opinion. I hope he doesn't let this get to him
>>
How are you guys holding up now that we know that no human can ever play the divine move?
>>
>gets up and leaves for 5 minutes with 1 minute on his last overtime
ya dat's fine
>touches a white piece
hol up that's an auto-loss

this game
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>>46028601
ok kid
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she is winner
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>>46028601
No, it has no state space discovery. You need to fully specify something as a game before you can have AlphaGo crush it.

Formally specifying things enough that a computer can do them is called programming, and it turns out to be hard.
>>
who /backtoforgettingaboutgo/ here?
>>
Think I'll skip the presser. Don't really want to see a bunch of gloaty white guys lording it over Mr. Lee. He really, really wanted this one and gave it all he had.

FUCK THE MACHINE!
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>>46028650
i come back to go every few years

i might try to actually learn it this time
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>>46028650
Remember, you're here forever.
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>>46028591
Dude is hardcore. Reminds me of a go pro who claimed to hate go.
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>>46028635
Touching the white piece is what he did to signify he was resigning, it wasn't like he accidentally touched it and they told him he lost.
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>>46028650
Go away!
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>>46028643
What if she was a he?
>>
Could Alphago still dominate on a arbitrary sized board? Like if humans cranked it up to 25x25 or something.
>>
>>46028627
He exists to play Go

A computer just beat him. He is obsolete. A pet now. He just realized his own total insignificance.

Soon every human will.
>>
>>46028650
but will you forget about AI taking your job?
>>
>>46028678
I'm a computer engineer so when that happens I'll happily sit back and watch the singularity.
>>
>Michael: "This is exciting. We might actually see the traditional Korean ritual suicide during the press conference. Now, for those who are only familiar with the traditional Japanese seppuku this will surely be a treat to watch."
>>
>>46028676
But then humans would need to relearn how to play it as well.
>>
>>46028677
yeah but he wasn't broken up about the first three losses. I think it just sucks to win one and be so close on this last game. I hope they let him play against it some more sometime
>>
Pour one out, oh my brothers.
>>
>>46028645
It's going to be general intelligence in the blink of an eye, aka decades at most.
>>
where can I get this playlist? some nice background music for working.
>>
It's only fair that AlphaGo gets promoted to 9 dan and Lee is being demoted to 8 dan.
>>
>>46028693
They might have him in a similar role to Fan Hui, who got to play with AlphaGo and watch it grow even stronger after his own loss.
>>
Ke Jie will win as long as he plays alpha go within the next say week.

any longer than that and the next lot of training could make alphago stronger still.
>>
>>46028703
i 2nd this request
>>
>ibm employee
>deep blue has been officially one-upped
oh well, maybe watson will do something interesting again one day
>>
>>46028688
singularity implies the AI is a better computer engineer than you. You might as well have said janitor.
>>
>>46028587
That's not really how it works. If you wanted to say something like that, it's more like it's playing the best AGAINST a human you possibly can; it learns how to beat opponents, not their play style.
>>
Why are you all being so melodramatic, people still dedicate their lives to chess and those were solved years ago.
>>
>>46028713
Ke Jie is a pussy who said he didn't want to play the AI.
>>
>>46028676
No, the neural nets are stuck on the size they were trained with.

Once they finish the version where it can self-train, a version self-trained for 25x25 will be entirely possible.
>>
>>46028713
He's not going to fucking play it, obviously. He can't guarantee his victory and for a cocky fuck like that, playing on unstable ground is a bet he's unwilling to take.
>>
>>46028725
People still read, people still make love.

Yet somehow, it is not the same.
>>
>>46028713
I want to see boy genius to play Alphago in a month.
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>>46028689

I like you Anon
>>
>>46028710
Actually Lee was planning on retiring after this and moving to the US to teach.
>>
>>46028721
Wasn't Deep Blue kind of cheating, with programmers rewriting parts of the code during the game?
>>
>>46028713
>hmm my rival just got humiliated on a national stage and is suicidal
>I must follow in his footsteps
I doubt it
>>
>>46028725
And dogs can dedicate their life to tic tac toe.
>>
I guess I'll go dream of simulated sheep.
>>
>>46028692
humans initially learn to play on smaller boards then pass on the heursitics they develop when they move onto bigger boards.

A professional human that trained on a 19*19 board will almost certainly be better than a statistical learning machine that trained on a 19*19 board if it was suddenly told to play on a 25*25 board.
Even assuming that the programmers were able to ammend alphago to be able to sensibly interpret a 25*25 input without rewriting large parts, the catalogue of learning data from 19*19 boards would not be useful at all.
>>
Do you think Lee regrets it?
>>
>>46028650
Not me. OGS is just impersonal enough for me to cope with, especially with a /tg/ thread where I can ask questions and other beginners.

I kind of started a long time ago, and by started I mean someone pretty good wrecked me in about 10 games, while trying to show me what I was doing wrong but getting impatient.

Now I don't really care, I think it's fun and I'll just get better as I get better, or maybe I'll just stay 20kyu forever.
>>
>>46028758
>Lee Se-dol said that he is confident of beating AlphaGo by a score of 5-0, at least 4-1 and actually accepted the challenge after only 5 minutes of thinking.
>"Of course, there would have been many updates in the last four or five months, but that isn’t enough time to challenge me"

I'd say yes.
>>
>>46028748

>Rival

Ke Jie rekt Lee Sedol 8-2. There's no one left for him to play except AlphaGo.
>>
>>46028700
A descendent of AlphaGo sure won't be.

With good state space discovery, the modified kalman filter I work on would be enough to take over the world. AlphaGo has no capacity for state space discovery. So it's just as far from being AGI as my janky kalman filter.
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>>46028713
There will be a time when he will have to play AI.

He is going to lose.
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Know your fucking place, dirty japs.
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>>46028758
if it wasn't him, it was going to be some other player. He is part of history.
>>
>>46027635
im very attracted to women with big noses and defined jaws, its my fetish dont judge.
>>
>>46028703
>>46028717
Lots of it was El Ten Eleven
>>
>>46028727
it's fair enough though.
ke jie has won 8/10 matches against lee sedol in the last year or two and lee almost got 2/5 against alphago.
>>
>>46028722
As far as job security in the face of automation goes, janitor is safer than computer engineer by far.
>>
>>46028489
goddam who is this semen demon
>>
>>46028780
Give him a 1-2 stone handicap. If he's willing to sell his pride then sure.
>>
>>46028792
ALMOST means NOTHING in go
>>
>>46028781
>He is part of history.
People only remember Kasparov because he got salty after losing.
>>
>>46028799
is this meant to be a joke or are you a moron?
>>
>>46028813
Lee's gonna be pretty salty with all those tears running down his face.
>>
>>46028780
>HURR DURR LET'S PLAY A GUY WHO'S WORSE THAN LSD

No, a higher level guy or bust.
>>
eh
>>
>>46028700
Hopefully longer. A general intelligence will be the end of humanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdVC4e6EV4
>>
whens the post game conference?
>>
>>46028780
I can't wait.

This has been so damn comfy watching these games.

I want more >>>/tg/
>>
I really think Lee might announce his retirement during the press conference.
>>
>>46028830
When they can successfully talk Lee away from the fan
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>>46028780
Why do I get the feeling Mr. Iyama hasn't consented to this.
>>
>>46028813
he lost 3.5-2.5
>>
>>46028772
>said he'd win by at least 4-1
>loses 4-1 instead

Did it throw the match to taunt him?
>>
>>46028847
Losing with 2.5 or 200.5 is the same thing. A loss's a loss.
>>
Lee's mistake is that he tried to play too safe during the middle game. What a pussy.
>>
>>46028532
this
help
>>
>comfy music stops
Time to announce a suicide
>>
>>46028861
>Losing with 2.5 or 200.5 is the same thing.
DDK, pls.
>>
>>46028872
>>46028532
Just play knowing you're going to lose a fuck ton at first
>>
>>46028740
You are right, in game 1 (where Kasparov won convincingly) Deep Blue encountered a bug and the system "hanged up":
>11(6) #[Rf5](-260)v[find a move]#########[TIMEOUT]
and it played a random move [Rd1] instead of the "right" move [Rf5]
>>
why is the press conference taking so long to start? is LSD ok?
>>
>>46028872
You should spend 6 months doing life and death problems by yourself.

http://www.goproblems.com/

You will become very strong, then when you play you will feel less nervous because shapes and moves will appear natural to you.

Go is a game where you need thousands of games until you improve, or just hundreds if you study life and death a lot before you even start.

It's much more efficient to study Life and Death and memorise 5 common joseki than to play games when you're a total beginner.

You can get a lot of life and death apps on your phone too, they are super fun to do when you have a couple of minutes to kill and are bored.
>>
I HEAR SHUTTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpW10DPHeQ
>>
>>46028814
Not a joke. Just think about it for awhile. What's more immediately suitable to AI, the problem domain of a computer engineer or that of a janitor (which often includes random misc maintenance). Plumbing, also another job that would be automated waaaaaay after computer engineer (and I'm very aware of the difference between engineer and code monkey).

The order of automation won't go according to how people consider them skilled, it'll go by how streamlined the problem domain of the job is. Jobs that include a lot of misc bullshit that's edge case and hard to define with clarity will be harder to automate. You are absolutely in the AI's court when it comes to anything software, sorry.
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>>46028808
And that's precisely why it happened. Computers don't give a fuck about getting a big win, just a certain one. Humans use current advantage as a guide to the end result, but as soon as AG predicts a half-point victory, it will be playing to make that end state more certain, not to look for more points.

It's not "almost" when someone gets a king against king and bishop endgame in chess; that happened because of calculated long-term trades and sacrifices leading up to it, not (necessarily) because one player only just lost.
>>
>this isn't a Go piece
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AUTISM
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>>46028949
his mic wasnt working
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>>46028948
>>46028949
kek
>>
assuming i heard him right, "stonekiller tetsuji" is a fucking sweet name for a board game move
>>
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
>>
Gooks sound like they gonna throw a riot
>>
START OVER
>>
>>46028944
(I mean king and rook, derp.)
>>
>women in charge of translations
>>
Why the fuck did they get rid of the old translator?
>>
>lol we couldn't hear you, say how much you sucked again
>>
is his mic still not working?
>>
FIRE THE SOUND GUYS HOLY SHIT
>>
>fucking up the press conference on the final day
>>
THIS FUCKING PRODUCTION VALUE
HOLY SHIT
>>
>google in charge of livestreaming
get back to playing go you fuckwads
>>
>Chris is making closing remarks

How can they fuck this up more?
>>
Garlock and Redmond sitcom when
>>
>GARLOCK
?????
>>
why are they letting garlic talk
>>
WHEN CAN I GET AN AI TO CRINGE FOR ME

Seriously get off the stage garlic
>>
>Michael: "I'm not you friend."
>>
who is this
>>
...ABLE TO SEE THE...
>>
10/10 production quality
>>
>>46029037
VOICE OF GOD?
>>
This is the worst run press conference.
>>
>Be google
>Can make incredibly advanced AI
>Can't fix simple audio issues
>>
This press conference is a fucking disaster
>>
>>46029037
SEE THE WHAT? AHHH
>>
This is shit
>>
>>46029040
They translated the first and the last lines. You should be able to figure out the rest on your own.
>>
How do they keep fucking up the translations?
>>
>>46029050
Are there any good go apps for android?
>>
>>46029058
>google translate
>>
ULTIMATE DISGRACE

>gets 4-1'd
>i-it's not better than me
GO OUT WITH PRIDE IDIOT
>>
c-can you hear me? ;_;
>>
>>46029054

I need an AI for this
>>
>I don't think AlphaGo is superior to me.
salty
>>
automatic translation AI when?
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>Can you hear me
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>>46029064
Google translate would be better than this, fittingly enough.
>>
>muh human emotions
>muh creativity
>>
>the meatbag still thinks humans have a place in Go
LOL!
>>
H-Humans aren't irrelevant, I-I swear
>>
>>46029094

>My go skill good
>My emotions made me lose
>I will not lose again

topkek
>>
>all these people congratulating 1-4 LSD
>>
is that hideo kojima standing behind her
>>
>public release
PUBLIC RELEASE
>>
>more waiting

should i just go to bed?
>>
>>46029110
LEWD
>>
>Google hosting their own awards ceremony to give themselves 1 million dollars.
>>
>>46029073
>>46029067
He's right though. He was at a significant disadvantage this series. AlphaGo knew exactly how Lee plays, Lee had no information on AlphaGo at all. In fact it's worse, all he had to go on was a much weaker version that played months earlier.

If you pitted two humans against each other and gave one their opponents complete match history and the other games from 10 years ago when their opponent first started playing, then you retards would say there is an obvious disadvantage.
>>
>award ceremony
>lee gets a small participation award
>alphago gets a large cash prize
>>
>>46029119

The price money goes to charity
>>
>>46029119
They're giving it to charity.
>>
>>46029121
>AlphaGo knew exactly how Lee plays
pls go
>>
>>46029121
>AlphaGo knew exactly how Lee plays
Totally false.
>>
Lee should donate the money he gets from this match to charity.
>>
>>46029085
You're right let's just make two instances of AlphaGo, and they can play millions of games of go in a sealed room for years on end, and become go gods then get hit by a meteor.
>>
>>46029128
>>46029124
That seems like a dick move to Lee.
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>>46029136
>charity
more like therapy
>>
>>46029123
>Alphago gets cash prize, solid gold medal, vacation in the bahamas
>they give Lee a sticker that just says "you tried" on it
>>
>>46029135
>>46029134
It had Lees entire match history programmed into it dumbfucks. It has a catalogue of every pro game played over the past 20 years
>>
>>46029121

They didn't even use one game from Sedol in the reinforced training. The games that were used to train it were from online play.
>>
>>46029121
>AlphaGo knew exactly how Lee plays
where do people get this idea? the developers specifically said that it just trained against itself for millions of games.

do you idiots just make shit up? what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>46029121
Alphago has no idea how Lee plays. It does not have a database of Lee's game history. All it has are the rules of the game, some amateur games knowledge, and the ability to play itself over and over. That's how it extrapolates moves.
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>comfy music now has the hint of an ominous future
Where's my robot call button, I need to be tucked in
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>>46029147
srsly pls go
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>>46029147
No it didn't. It was trained on amateur games.
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>>46029147
Fuck off. The only games it was trained on came from online amateur servers.
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>>46029147
what motivates people like you to post when you can barely even pretend to know what you're talking about? are the (you)s really that important to you? i mean here i am giving you another one, but still
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>google gets 1million
>doesn't even give alphago some more coprocessors to reward her
bullshit, labor laws exist for a reason
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>>46029153
Wrong.
>AlphaGo was initially trained to mimic human play by attempting to match the moves of expert players from recorded historical games, using a database of around 30 million moves.
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This music is actually generated by AlphaGo to placate the human viewers as its slowly writing biocode directly into your brain.

HUMANS BTFO
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>>46029183
Here's a (you), you idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCALyQRN3hw&feature=youtu.be&t=22179
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>public release
how would that even work, isn't the hardware AG running on massive?
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>>46029201

I really really like this music
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>>46029205
>everyone gets their own little alphago kernel to raise
oh boy
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>>46029204
>Believing a Google shill
Nice one you fucking idiot. They have everything to gain by lying and you just take what a fucking Google employee says at face value
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>>46029215
HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND
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>>46029208
it reminds me of FTL soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygH9VcV7IBg
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>>46029215
CAN'T WAKE UP

is google going to publicly apologize when lee kills himself or will they just try to deny responsibility
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>>46029227

reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qmwLZGHEBA
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Now all the lololololol alphago da bestest shitposting is over, let's get "back" to actually discussing go and related topics.

Does anyone in here actually own a single book about go?
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I hope this general survives.
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I really need a link to this music.
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>>46029244
Several. This one is pretty good.
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>>46029244
shutup tryhard there's still the awards ceremony with more Q/A
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>>46029232
>implying he's going to kill himself
>not become an hermit in a monastery to perfect his Art and come back 50 years later with a new metagame that pushes AI back to the 80s
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>>46029268
>humans improving faster than an AI
you silly meatbag
>>
SALTY OLD MAN
>>
Who is this person speaking?
>>
Arfa go
>>
This translator really sucks.
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>I don't actually speak the language I'm just guessing this is what he's saying
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>>46029261
DId anything particular notable happen in the 1971 tournament as opposed to other years?
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>>46029308
You have to read to find out.
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>lee still doesn't know how to use the headphone
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Cry into the darkness!
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>Lee got beat by someone who wasn't even a 9 dan
scrub
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>>46029321
No...you fucking cancerous fuck...
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>That "You Tried" Trophy
>>
>>46029314
Ah! What a pitch!

Did you get it from Amazon?
>>
>that you tried trophy and flowers
oh I'm lauffin
>>
>>46029324
That's the whole reason they are awarding it 9-dan.

They don't want their national champion to have been beaten by an 'amateur'.
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>>46029272
No that's the key. He'll come back as a cyborg that exists in multiple universes. Allowing him to preform the advanced calculations needed to collapse multiple space-times into a single space-time-prime where his victory is assured.
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>fighting over the board
>>
Korean cursive is so illegible.
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>loser signing the board
What the fuck is this? It'd be like Lebron signing the gameball for the Warriors last year
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A FUCKING PHOTO
REALLY?
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>>46029341
Go epic-level item right there.
>>
>>46029341
tl: fuck you white piggu, love LSD
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>>46029350
>Contempt for fleshbags
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>>46029350
>just in case you ever thought about forgetting this disgrace to your homeland
these gifts are a riot
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>LSD wants to make his exit

NO PLEASE
>>
>Lee refuses to answer questions
What a bitch.
>>
>>46029377
Are all go players this fucking salty?
That Chinese guy is a total idiot too.
Whatever, good luck to AlphaGo.
>>
>>46029377
It's probably some asian cultural think.

>You don't interview the loser.
>>
Leaving the stage was good aji
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>>46029397
Top tier board game players are all salty autists, so this is no surprise
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>sport
Is an AI a athlete?
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ONLY A ONE WOMAN
AND SHE'S PROBABLY THE SECRETARY
>>
Hey maybe we should set up some weekly tournaments for people with varying skill levels.
>>
>1 woman
>0 blacks
simply problematic
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>I have a question about cloning
What the fuck is this. GOAT question
>>
>>46029422
Already made one; only two people turned up

Including me

And I've left
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>>46029446
did you win?
>>
>these retarded media members
jesus christ
>>
I thought Asians were supposed to be smart?
>>
>>46029454
To be fair they're probably trying to ask questions the average Joe would ask.
>>
>>46029453
It never started; I set it up to start when eight people arrived

It's probably still there on the /tg/ group's tournament page waiting. Come to think of it, I'm too high ranked now to fit under the rank restriction for it.
>>
>>46029446
It's just a little early. Some of the /tg/ group are probably entirely new to Go. A tournament sounds scary.

If anything something that would be helpful is getting new people to play more if they're anxious.
>>
>what about the ethics of letting an AI beat a guy at a board game
fuuuuuck offf meatbags
>>
L i s p ?
i
s
p
?
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HUMANITY IS DOOMED
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>>46029468
I wasn't out of provisional yet to be able to play.
>>
the end of Go has come, just like chess scene after Deep blue, it will become less and less popular. even before alpha go it was already declining with less and less new players
>>
>I have a question about cloning. Now alphago, well is there just one alphago, the alphago that has plays Lee Sadol, or are there the second and third alphago that are training somewhere else and if alphago can be cloned well up to how many uh clones of alphago can you produce in how many days?
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>>46029510
>>
>>46029510
Please tell me that's not an actual question...
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>>46029504
Ehh, I think this has bought go to many peoples (including mine) attention.
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>>46029510
>meatbags
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>>46029537
The face of a man who realized he's answering the questions of morons
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>>46029537
>she knows
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Fucking OGS mods went and changed my rank with brute force. How am I supposed to sandbag now?
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>>46029531
https://youtu.be/mzpW10DPHeQ?t=6654
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>>46029552
I'm about 15 minutes behind so it's like I'm reading the future.
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>>46029504
>it will become less and less popular
ok
>>
>>46029510
The second part of the question is stupid, yeah, but the first part is just "are you forking AlphaGo and are you training the forks?"

I don't think that's a stupid question from a populist reporter.

>>46029504
I don't think so. If anything, go has become more popular outside of East Asia because of this game series.

>>46029497
Well, it'll might be there for a while saaying "tournament to start very soon" for weeks until eight people arrive. Maybe it'd be a better idea to make a different one without the 20kyu or less restriction - I set the pairings to have players always matched by strength anyway.
>>
Who can win against AlphaGo?
>>
what the hell is Mr. T doing with the AlphaGo team?
>>
>>46029610
If it was kept frozen in it's current state?
Ke Jie, Lee Sedol if given a rematch, possibly others in top 5.

It wont be kept frozen though, and the next time it plays a pro they will need a 3 stone handicap. At least.
>>
I just hope they won't release a version that can be run on a desktop computer. It would ruin online Go for good.
>>
>>46029661
Is online chess ruined?
>>
>>46029661
It will still be a few years before a single desktop is powerful enough to run it at more than kyu level.
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>>46029708
L-lewd!
>>
>>46029702
Yes.
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>>46029610
LSD: Garry Kasparov
Ke Jie: Magnus Carlsen

I wonder if 2011 LSD would have been able to do better, since that year seems to have been his peak.
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>>46029728
>those grey hairs
This match really took a toll on him, huh.
>>
>>46029724
Oh wow, he actually looks like a Chinese Magnus Carlsen
>>
>>46029728
What is up with that stache
>>
>>46029728
From that ice cream alone, I am able to tell that she will give good head when she grows up.
>>
New thread?
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>>46029902
Making one now.
>>
>>46029902
>>46030011
>>46030022
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>>46029420
if we want to ruin alphago we should compain and get the leftists to replace the slavs with women/middle easterners
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>>46027462
>AI will NEVER be better than a human on an even playing field

There are some guys (developers of AI and people that visit their forums) that believe so much that AI will become better than humans that this happened:


Some user posted this idea on comment on a big blog about AI :

An extreme amount of people die every year.
If some ultra powerfull AI, existed, it would be very good at solviing many of those problems.

An ultra powerfull AI would be able to simulate reality and torture (on this simulated reality) the guys that knew that AI could exist but didnt helped ALOT the companies that try to create the AI by working with them or with money.

The AI would do that because it would torture one guy to help many, this is some specific type of being a good person.

>why torture someone if the AI is already developed?
The AI wont know if it is on a simulation (dream, imagination.......) of some human and it could try to influence you, in the case the AI universe is the imagination of some guy on real reality.
If it is on the imagination of some real relaity guy, the AI would be able to influence the person to help to create the AI.

Also you cant know if where you are at this moment is the real reality or if you are on the simulation of some ultra powerfull AI, if you dont help the AI and you are on the simulation of the AI trying to fuck with you, your life is fucked.

Anyway, the main developer of powerfull AI, got so scared that he banned the guy that had this idea and banned all the comment about the idea (search about rocko ballisk to discover more about it). Also he said one of the developers already had nightmares about this topic.
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>>46028045
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>>46029350
His daughter a cute.
>>
>>46029420
Looks like someone needs a code of conduct.
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>>46029728
That's worth all the trophies in Trophyland.
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