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Dear Hiro: How We Can Fix 4chan Part 2

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A continuation of the thread here >>667528

Archive of last thread:
http://archive.is/6gfsi

So in the last thread Hiro we went over exactly what was wrong with 4chan and mostly everything pointed to how piss poor the moderation was on here and how you seem to have little, if any presence here.

In the thread you basically asked us how do we identify good and bad mods and seemed to agree with us that the mods need clear regulations in place due to a lack of communication and corruption they establish. You then agreed with that the mods lack communication with us over many issues, and that according to you "communication is not enough because people think differently". You then went on to say "I think you guys have to communicate with each others to make borad own regulations." So you basically told us to make threads on the boards listing off what we wanted to see change on here, and give a list of rules and regulations the mods needed to follow.

Well as you see the results haven't been good. Despite threads on certain boards like /tv/, /a/ and /v/ getting great suggestions and ideas, the other times the mods flat out deleted the threads on site. Case in point being /tg/. Every time we tried to establish a thread on /tg/, a thread you told us to make, our threads were deleted in almost a minute and we were temporarily blocked from posting citing Global Rule 10. That means that mods on /tg/ thought our posts were spam, even though you told us to make them and we showed them the thread you were in stating this.
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>>670461
So the biggest takeaway from all this Hiro is, simply put, there is a severe corruption and abuse problem with the moderation. The mods are ignoring our ideas and are even deleting our threads about them. The mods will not listen to us, and nor will they listen to you, because you are never around. The mods see you as a stepping stone because you don't' take charge of things. You aren't laying your foot down and demanding them to grow the fuck up and listen to us. It is because of all of this that the mods believe they have free reign to do whatever they want because there is no oversight from you at all to stop them.

Now the biggest complaints coming out are that you don't care, seeing as though you bailed the last thread yet again. So already people are thinking you dont' give a shit about the issues we have with the mods, and that you don't want to do anything about it because "its not your problem." Well Hiro it is your problem. You bought this site from moot, you inherited his mess and now the only way you have any chance to making this site good again and attracting more people is to fix his fuck ups, starting with you acting like an admin and actually giving a shit.
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Hey there, Hiro.

One thing - please consider making a YouTube board on 4ch OR finally telling us if we can make threads about YouTube "celebrities" on /tv/ or /v/ to talk about stuff they make, like movie or game reviews.

It's not that I like or dislike them - it's that every time someone mentions any YT related thing, people start flipping their shit that this isn't related to the board, even if it kinda is.
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So now we must wait for you to actually come on here this month and not next and work on the next step. We did exactly what you told us to do and it failed.

The problem mods have been identified to: Those being the mods of /tg/, /qst/, /co/ and /tv/
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>>670473
Dont listen to this retard

E-celebs are cancer and it'll only bring in underaged kids what will get you trouble from the US goverment
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All of you are a bunch of bitches who don't know how to take it easy.

>inb4 t. mod
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>>670478
t. Alphonse

>>670473
This. Many of times the e-celeb threads are a nesting ground of shitposting and underage newfaggotry. Either make a containment board for these little kids or tell us if they are allowed or are not allowed on /tv/ or /v/
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>>670478
t. mod cocksleeve
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>>670478
>t.t.t.t.t.t.t
This shit needs to be banned too.
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>>670473
t.minecraft lets player
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>>670474
Oh yes forgot to mention /pol/ and /asp/
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>>670483
>>670484
I can take it easy and hate the mods at the same time, you know? Just a few days ago I got a 1 day ban for saying nigger on /vg/.
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Allow light novels on /a/! Too few people and too many trolls on /jp/ to do a proper discussion. /lit/ just outright denies existence light novels, /a/ is the only board which have enough people who like light novels and willing to do discussion.
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I don't want to hear about conspiracies whether they're actually true or not. I just want moderation to be a bit more strict. I don't want Nazi's. I don't want "rulz r 4 fegs". I want moderation to step in when and where it's needed. I'm mainly concerned with Global Rules 3, 5, and 6, as they seem to be the most disruptive when not followed on any board.
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Hiro cleared hasn't read the rules, doesn't understand them or it's still not familiarized enough with how 4chan works, so keeps doing stupid things like asking people to start meta threads in their home boards to crowd-source rules. He believes he is empowering community, but he's only promoting anarchy and pandering to shitposters
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>>670492
I get what he meant in the last thread I really do. He wanted us to take control of the situation and get the mods to be our bitch. Instead, as we found out, the mods hold a tight leash over all of us and we can't do shit unless Hiro steps up.

>>670492
Well then I guess I'll just post a screenshot for him telling him the rules
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>>670492
>Deleted
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Hiro cleared hasn't read the rules, doesn't understand them or it's still not familiarized enough with how 4chan works, so keeps doing stupid things like asking people to start meta threads in their home boards to crowd-source rules. He believes he is empowering community, but he's only promoting anarchy and pandering to shitposters
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>>670492
What the fuck? Is there a mod in here running damage control?
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ひろゆきさん、英和翻訳者を雇って下さい。お仕事ですから、4ちゃんのアドミンとして英語練習してはならないです。
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>>670461
I made a thread earlier in the day. Two minutes in it was deleted and I was handed a 15 min temporary ban Citing Global Rule 10: No spamming or flooding of any kind. No intentionally evading spam or post filters.
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Could we have a /rp/ board for roleplaying?
Waifu/Hunger Games/ERP cancer can finally fuck off to this place.
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>>670541
Disable adblock anon.
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>>670541
>>670512
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>>670547
You won't cure cancer by letting it metastase.
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>>670541
buy a pass
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>>670463
>surprised hiro is a piece of shit
He datamined his own website for profit. Gooknigger can go fuck himself
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>>670547
They're on /trash/ you idiot. And its fine since its unlisted
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>>670550
Pony faggotry is banned on all boards after they got their own.
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>>670558
Roleplaying doesn't belong in /trash/. RP should get its own containment board and that way /trash/ can be the furry's containment board.
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>>670558
Waifufags are on /b/ nigger.
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>>670461
I'm not really sure I see the issues with things like /qst/ and /aco/. I've never been able to understand the outrage over board splits like that. People in /tg/ are told to move next door to /qst/, nothing really changes, but this is an issue. Same with /aco/, people from /d/ are told to move right next door on 4chan avenue and this is somehow the worst thing that's ever happened ever.

I also have to disagree completely with the previous OP and the moderation of western content on /d/. In my experience the only western pics that are deleted from /d/ are ones that I have to report, mods are extremly lax about western content their. It makes me think that either
1. There aren't any mods or Jannies that browse /d/ themselves and clean it up without user intervention
or
2. The mods/jannies that do browse it don't care and aren't following the rules.

I don't like western content, I'd like to see it off of /d/ as much as possible. I've considered becoming a janitor myself just for that purpose but I doubt I'd be accepted, seeming like some guy with a vendetta and a chip on his shoulder. So instead I just try to help with the "user moderation" and hope the posts I report get deleted. Sometimes that works but it hasn't been as effective lately.

People that post western content and people who post eastern (Japanese) content are just a very different breed, in terms of user savvy, attitude, and taste. I shared many a fetish thread on early /jp/ and /b/ but those people I had fun times with back in the day are simply not the main users of /d/ or /aco/ these days.

And I'll be honest, I think the quality of moderation has been declining in some places. Nipple-gate (on /a/) was a bad sign but it didn't seem to have lasting consequences. On some boards like /d/, /v/, /jp/, /mu/, /r9k/, /ic/, /ck/, and others there seems to be a lot of off-topic stuff. Lot of /pol/ b8, a lot of obvious newfags getting away with obvious newfaggotry.
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>>670562
Approximately how many people does Waifu, Hunger Games, and ERP have in total? I'd say you have to at least have 100-200 people or so for an entire board to be made for it desu.
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>>670550
People said that about questing and wrestling and thats working just fine.
Hunger games seems to pop up all over the site, rpfags need a board to fuck off to since tg will not be able to handle it.
Trash is also primarily meant to be a dumping ground for threads that are borderline unusable.
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>>670565
>On some boards like /d/, /v/, /jp/, /mu/, /r9k/, /ic/, /ck/, and others there seems to be a lot of off-topic stuff. Lot of /pol/ b8, a lot of obvious newfags getting away with obvious newfaggotry.
And I'd like to append that I blame that as much on the board's users as much as the lack of moderation. /v/'s user base mostly doesn't know how to report a post, most of /ck/ are just moonlighters from reddit, /ic/ and /mu/ both have a bad case of eternal summer syndrome where no one is acclimated enough to 4chan culture to know these things, and the quality of the boards suffer.
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>>670573
Theres plenty on tg who would take it given the chance.
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>>670550
>You can't hinder cancer by containing it
This is how dumb you sound.
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Hiro, can anything be done about roleplaying?

ERP is something that's been pervasive in several boards for a while now, especially in boards with generals and communities. It's banned on sight, and with good reason, but the main issue is that it has no home on 4chan. /trash/ is the only place it's tolerated, but no one wants to go there because it's completely unmoderated, so people freely engage in it where they can get away with it on many boards like /a/, /v/, /vg/, etc. Can you consider a new board for things such as roleplaying/erotic roleplay, or at least giving it a home on an already existing NSFW board like say /h/, by adjusting the rules? It'd go a long way towards keeping it off the other boards, particularly blue boards.

>>670558
ERPers will not move to /trash/ or /b/ because they see those boards are either unmodderated or poorly so. The result is that most of them tend to stay on their home boards because they don't want to mix in with all the completely unavoidable bullshit on either board, meaning they stay in their general threads or various /a/ and /v/ threads and try to get away with as much as they can, get banned for 3 days, and come right back.

>>670573
Between the various generals on /trash/ such as /ERP/, /HG/, and /ftt/, as well as occasional smaller dedicated roleplaying generals,there would certainly be enough activity. Plus, there are already plenty of people who would be interested but avoid frequenting those threads and stick to their home bards because of the sorry state they're in.
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>>670461
i would really like a shopping board.
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Hiro the mods deleted the threads made on /asp/ and /qst/. They both only lasted less than 7 minutes before being deleted. That's all the proof you need
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Other thread is crashing now, so people should start coming here
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Mods and jannies just need to all be purged and replaced at this point.
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>>670573
HG has a fairly large community, so does ERP/FTT, no idea about waifu-releated stuff because I almost never visit /b/.
>>670565
>/pol/ b8
Comes naturally with election cycles; if Trump wins there will be a huge a huge shitstorm, if Hillary wins there will be a huge shitstorm, as long as there is humanity, there is shitstorm.
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>>>/qst/572132

Thread started at 7:49 PM EST. Countdown begins now.
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>>670611
>Comes naturally with election cycles
It's not just election cycles

>/ck/: diet, vegetarianism, food industry, and ethnic cuisine are just a stealth /pol/ threads
>/mu/: Hip-hop, asian music, basically anything that's not rock can turn into a stealth /pol/ thread
>/v/: gamergays
>/ic/: How many threads are made in a week talking about asians being so good at drawing? Or blacks being shit at drawing. Typically not focused on Japan either, koreans and Chinese as well.
Etc. Of course it increases with election cycles but it's always been a problem.
I like /pol/ I do, I'm there everyday, but I really would like /pol/ to stay in itself.
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>>670618
4 0 4
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>>670507
This is fucking stupid.

1) Not US law, but local law is fine.
2) Agreed.
3) Racism is the essence of /pol/, as much as I hate it. While I do agree with the furry porn and guro, I do not agree with the rest. The concept of off-topic replies, indecipherable text, and catchphrases need to be found to be spam.
4) Agreed.
5) Agreed.
6) How are you going to enforce that shit?
7) Agreed.
8) No, metathreads need to occur to give self-awareness to the board.
9) Agreed.
10) Agreed
11) Agreed.
12) Agreed.
13) Eh, I agree with it.
14) Don't touch my VPN or TOR node, motherfucker.
15) Definitely agreed.
16) Agreed.
17) Agreed, depending on board, as /tg/ can post .pdfs, and /wsg/ and /gif/ can post .webms with sound.
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>>670618
Thread deleted only 5 minutes later. This all but confirms my deepest fear: The mod of /tg/, the one who kicked off all the Quest threads, is also the mod of /qst/, since he is banning exactly the same way he was doing on /tg/ a few hours ago.
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>>670574
Hunger Games isn't RP, it's just an RNG based vidya that gets narrated in a thread.
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>>670695
Mods are global, not tied to specific boards.
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>>670644
While it does come naturally with election cycles, the level of /pol/ posting has steadily increased in /v/-related events and threads have increased in recent years.

I saw the rumblings of when /new/ got shitcanned, but it's much more frequent now. What really got the break was fukkin' Gamergate.
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I love how the /a/ threads are still going strong.
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>>670696
It works out the same, and it doesn't really matter how loose the definition is, as long as it has a home that can keep it off other boards.
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The /co/ threads are getting deleted.
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>>670593
Move all the roleplay to /tg/, I hear they love that shit. And they have room now that the faggots got quests banned.

It's perfect.
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>>670749
There actually used to be a weekend ERP thread with relevant links.

It got kicked off
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>>670749
They would not love it cluttering the board however. Itd fill up the board too fast.

The very reason why qst/ was made was because it cluttered tg/
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>>670738
Literally nonstop to. So now we know who are the problem mods that must be dealt with ASAP, those being:

/asp/
/co/
/g/
/tg/
/qst/
/tv/
/pol/
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>>670769
No it didn't. That's the bullshit lie of someone who has never looked at the actual numbers.
Quests couldn't even fill a single page on /tg/.
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>>670749
Assuming that's a serious reply: /tg/ is a blue board, right? That wouldn't solve the ERP problem at all. Besides, I believe /hg/ started there, wasn't tolerated, and was kicked out.
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>>670783
The HG that's on /trash/ started on /b/ iirc.
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>>670773
Don't forget /v/.
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>>670768
>>670783
That's the joke, dudes. I was being facetious, though if someone with some fucking authority took it seriously I wouldn't complain. That'd be funny as shit.

>>670769
/qst/, with its native posters and the /tg/ migrants, can barely keep ONE page active. And the standards are pretty low there. Some threads are the exception, but you can get away with shit there that would've killed an attempt on /tg/ to run a quest.
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>>670773
and asp
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>>670461
http://www.strawpoll.me/11227013

Should Quests be allowed on /tg/?
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>>670795
It's older than that, and traces farther back to /tg/, I think. It's something that's been around for a while but never tolerated, much like ERP, though ERP (and various random roleplaying generals) have only recently begun establishing themselves, outside of what little they could manage back on /b/, which wasn't much.
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>>670769
Yes, all 7 active threads cluttered up the entirety of /tg/.

There were more generals than quests, always.
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>>670686
>6) How are you going to enforce that shit?
I think global rule 6 pretty much just exists to use as a throwaway reason when someone's not technically breaking any other rules and is blatantly shitposting. It's dumb but kinda necessary.
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>>670783
Theres been multiple amounts of groups using that sim across tg/ v/ co/ b/ and trash/.
Its a wierd fad thats becoming a regular thing, not sure what we should do with it.
>>670808
No.
The very reason it was made was so it wouldent.
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>>670816
>Its a wierd fad thats becoming a regular thing, not sure what we should do with it.
/trash/ proves that /hg/ threads/community can co-exist with RP generals, as they regularly have members that participate in both communities. So, an NSFW roleplaying board can play host to both RP/ERP and HG with little issue. /hg/ isn't really the proble, anyway, it's the fact that there's no moderated board for roleplay to occur on that causes people to start ERPing in places they shouldn't. People on /a/, for example, would literally rather ERP in the external archive threads for their boards than step foot in /trash/, and a quick visit there is all it takes to see why.
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>>670686
The thing about the US law thing is that 4chan is a legal entity based in the United States. Since it's technically a business it is obligated to follow US cyber laws and business laws. If an anon posts something that is extremely illegal in the US on 4chan then the site would have to face criminal charges despite the fact the post is probably legal in anon's country. That's why CP is an extremely serious issue with the mods. If anon's country allows it then he would be fine, but 4chan would be held accountable for what anon did in American law even though the post was from anon's country since 4chan is under American jurisdiction.

That's why moot put that rule there. To avoid the US from being able to shut down the site and ban it.
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>>670813
>>670686
The point I'm trying to make here is that the global rules need to be re-written.

Also, has anyone noticed that Console Wars is no longer held against the rules anymore?
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>>670841
So now people are free to spam them as they wish
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LURK MOAR should be global rule 1.
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>>670845

That should be the ONLY rule
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>>670749
Buttmad questnigger detected.
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/sp/ is planning on bailing soon Hiro because of the mods and janitors.
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>>670808
i'm sure this is going to actually represent the users of the board
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>>670877
good riddance
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>>670897
Come on, bitch nigger. It's American primetime with the thread on the first (1st) page; how come nobody can show up to save the day?

Get fucking real
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>>670877
Much of 4chan doesn't really care about sports.
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Can we all at least agree that e-celeb/youtube shit needs to be banned/ relegated to a single board? I think we can agree that it lowers quality of discussion.
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Hiro can no longer be Mr. Nice Confused Japanese Man anymore. What we have shown, and proved today is that a massive purge of moderation must occur in order to save 4chan

>>670907
Doesn't excuse shitty moderation
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>>670913
Shitty moderation for shitty posters sounds like a fair deal to me
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>>670913
Have you ever thought that moderation on sports boards might be underwhelming because they might not care about sports very much?Also, from what I've seen over the years, most /sp/ users aren't responsible enough to make even their own rules.
It seems like most of the time they just want to post whatever the hell they feel like.
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>>670913
>What we have shown, and proved today is that a massive purge of moderation must occur in order to save 4chan
Most of 4chan doesn't care about moderation. I'd say less than 1% of posts get moderated. You are an extremely vocal minority that genuinely believes is speaking for a majority of posters. Your greatest victory was convincing Hiro your opinion matters.
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>>670927
That's why global moderation is a joke. We need a mod or mods who actually like a particular subject
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>>670927
>they might not care about sports very much?
So they are just like /sp/ users then?
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>>670877
I never go to /sp/ but is it true they have regular CP threads?
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>>670943
Global moderation is good in some ways and bad in others. It allows the website to be moderated as a whole similarly, but becomes very difficult in the finer aspects that are dependent on the board subject, and can even change from thread to thread. This is why I think Global AND Board Specific mods should exist.
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>>670943
Janitors are board specific and they greatly outnumber mods, there's no need for mods to be board specific too
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>>670942
Fuck off, mod
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>>>/co/86280732

8:43 PM. Countdown starts now
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>>670949
/tv/'s are better, they even have webm's and take requests
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>>670949
Yes. Whenever there is a major game or event the CP spammers show up and mods do nothing
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How to fix 4chan:

>either make a rolling sticky for each board open to suggestions from anons in each board, or fix the fucking feedback
>make a separate board for western /d/ (smaller and slower boards exist already), or allow /d/ to have both japanese and western degeneracy
>put a moderation team on /pol/ that does their job and deletes "pol BTFO", "rly mks u think" and other shill/shitposting threads
>remove Swaglord from /tv/, bring a moderation team that removes the cuck/bestiality spam
>remove the anime threads from /vp/ and send them to /a/ (every single time something happens in their cartoon they spam the board, and make threads on /v/ and /a/)
>remove the /tg/ nazi mod
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>>670968
>How to fix
>""""4chan""""
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Hiro should have a clearer vision, he's like an author telling his fans what they want to happen in the latest book. Why do people have to discuss what we want to happen?

We should just be able to give feedback of what we think is going well and what isn't, what's working and what isn't, and have him adapt to it by himself.
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>>670968
Don't suggest how to "fix" boards you are not familiarized with
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>>670956
Or maybe select Janitors with special privileges that can ban people for up to 3 days, but no longer?

I don't really know, I just know global mods can't always keep track of the finer things, and that the communication between janitors and mods might not be as good as it could be. For example: A janitor might request a ban on someone that really does deserve to be banned, but the mods might not be knowledgeable enough to pass proper judgment.
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>>670962
Deleted only three minutes later.
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>>670968
do you really think Swaglord allows cuck spam?

And not just, there aren't any /tv/ janitors for big periods during the day?
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>>670983
dont give up, we have permission to do the treat all we want.
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>>670986
He does because it amuses him
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>>670996
I don't think so, I think you can just attribute spam with lack of mods
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>the thread about /tg/ discussion devolved into a shitshow
>made another thread to try and get things back on track
>deleted within a minute while the other is autosaging
This fucking mod. I have no life, no friends, and no future. I could do a better job.
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>>671005
But you can attribute it to a mod who doesn't give a shit and lets it happen for hours on end till he gets bored.
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>>670978
>he's like an author telling his fans what they want to happen in the latest book
Spot on.

While some small boards may be asked to come up with ideas, it's suicidal to expect any sensible policies to materialize in popular ones.
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>>671009
mods aren't board specific

There's just nobody watching /tv/
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>>671012
Actually swagord is the only one allowed to moderate /tv/ apparently
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>>670461
Hiro if you are reading this we have a thread for you to go to discuss the current state of /asp/.

>>>/asp/1761072
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Meanwhile on /a/.

>>>/a/147215471
>>>/a/147215497
>>>/a/147216669
>>>/a/147211695
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>>671022
inb4 Carter deletes it
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>>671014
>apparently
If judging by anonymous comments on /qa/ or /tv/?
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>>671024
We need to keep putting on the pressure. Mods can't put us down. We can't let them.
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>>671023
Meanwhile on /a/

>>147205519
>>147206988
>>147208001
>>147202038
>>147203893
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>>671024
you have to be seriously paranoid to actually think carter is the mod
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>>670461
It's simple: just make moderation transparent. Mods and janitors lose their right to be anonymous when moderating boards and each get assigned a generic ID (to preserve their identities), and all their actions are logged in a page similar to /bans/ that everyone can see. The moderation feedback part of the feedback form also gets a revamp, letting you give feedback on the actions of any mod or janitor in particular.
Also, any time a thread gets deleted, they get one last post by the mod who deleted them stating the reason for the deletion just so you can find the mod who was responsible for it more easily.
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>>671033
nice cross link
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I just pray something gets done about this. If not, 4chan is dead.
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>>671035
Except the mods don't want to be transparent with us. They'd rather act as this invisible ghost that ruins people's day. This is partly why Global Moderation should be removed
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I want sage back
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>>671035
Transparent moderation gives stupid and malicious people a way to accidentally/intentionally misinterpret things and cause even more unneeded drama.
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https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S15836573

This was posted in /jp/ earlier today. Yet another board that needs serious purging of janitors and mods
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>>671057
Nothing will change and there's nothing you could do.

Hiroyuki literally only said "Thank you for making this thread"

There's nothing wrong with /jp/ and hiroyuki knows this.

This is a dead thread

sage

This was most likely from the mod/janitor. They don't give a fuck about us or Hiro
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>>671030
>Mods can't put us down
So you want them to put you over?
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>>671042
>I just pray
Seriously? If God existed one would think it concerns itself with more important things
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>>671064
The point is we need some changes on /asp/ immediately, and our input must be heard. Its literally a shithole there.
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>>671051
You can still sage, but it doesn't show
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I have a /tv/ solution that is pretty simple:

At this point the board just has far too much traffic to be moderated efficiently. The solution is split the board in half with /tv/ remaining exactly the same and /film/ being created for serious film and television discussion. The majority of the mods can go to /film/ and will be able to successfully moderate with only half of the userbase and the rest of the mods will stay no /tv/ where there will be no change outside of the unhappy users being gone.

I am not being hyperbolic or sarcastic when I say this: I literally have no idea what mods do on /tv/ other than delete threads about what a terrible job mods are doing and delete interacial porn threads a good 20-30 minutes after they go up. As far as being a "film & television" discussion board /tv/ is essentially unusable and it is entirely because of mods.
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>>671052
I agree, but lack of communication (I wouldn't call it transparency) seems to have the same effect
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>>671052
It'd still be a much better situation than what we currently have. It's not like every single mod that gets reported for being dumb would be immediately banned, and they'd try to hold back on being too partial exactly because of what you mentioned.
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>>670949
There was one CP poster who could evade any ban who ruined /sp/ for probably over a year. He doesn't post any more, though. I haven't seen any CP on /sp/ for months; I think the spammer got identified somehow and was v& in real life.

So there used to be tons of CP, but I think it's all gone now. One of the big archive sites even stopped archiving /sp/ because there was so much CP that they were afraid of going to prison if they were caught hosting it. If you went on /sp/ right now, though, I am willing to bet money that you wouldn't find any CP at all.
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>>671057
Are you crazy? /jp/ was 80% shitposts a few years ago, you should be thankful to its janitors. Mods are not board specific.
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>>671082
We tried that. /film/ got quickly spammed with Baneposting and it got deleted
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>>671062
>They don't give a fuck about us or Hiro
They don't have, their job is to enforce rules.
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>>671103
>They don't have, their job is to enforce their rules that they made up on the spot.
Fixed
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>>>/a/147217637
>>>/a/147217637
>>>/a/147217637
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>>671094
Those "shitposts" were /jp/ you triple neo/jp/er
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>>671094
A problem I see here is the definition of shitpost. Contentless dumb posts that reflect the content from a board should be fine, but reddit-tier shit obviously isn't. That's why lurking should be a necessity for mods and janitors as well, if you can't discern between the good and the bad kind of shitposting you have no business moderating 4chan. This isn't and was never meant to be a serious place, but most mods seem to completely miss that.
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>>671102

That is not true. /film/ was never open. An anon found a way in before there were any mods and posted a link and the board was flooded.
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>>671104
Every ban has a ban reason that points to a rule violation.

While rules allow for a margin of interpretation (global rule 6 for example). Mods judgement is better than the lack thereof, or worse, an interested party judgement (people complaining about them here).
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>>>/tv/74346093
>>>/tv/74346093
>>>/tv/74346093
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>>671119
I was there. It was fun while it lasted.
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Hiro, you need to remove the /co/ mod asap. They are deleting any meta discussion despite the fact that you said we should so they are directly ignoring you. You need to show the mods that you are the boss not them and your word is final.
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>>671114
I have a different approach, if you can't discern between off-topic and on-topic using your common sense (not board "culture" learnt definitions) you have no business posting on 4chan.
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>>671131
Hiro should respect 4chan rules or change them

>Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban
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>>671134
That rule is exactly why we're in this situation. Thanks to it, mods are allowed to do whatever the fuck they please and nobody is allowed to complain.
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>>671134
The rule needs to be revised.
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>>671133
You and the moderation have forced /jp/ into what they think /jp/ is, and they don't even agree on that. The moderation has been very inconsistent in regards to off-topic and on-topic.
And that's not how /jp/ used to be.
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>>671134

That rule was written when the people complaining weren't 100% right and it needs to be changed immediately.
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>>671134
>the owner of this website has no say because a rule

Are you fucking serious?
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>>671109
I used to go to warosu when it had ghost posting activated and before that I went to easymodo to see my deleted shitposts. I can respect people that knowingly defy rules and moderation, but I have nothing but contempt for people who feel they are entitled to shitpost because their mob approves or that they should be allowed to dictate what belongs and what doesn't here.
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>>671148
Pretty much the situation on /asp/.
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>>671146
Because he is the owner he should be setting the example
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The /a/ thread got spammed with guro and deleted.
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>>671156
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>>671141
You don't know me, don't pretend you do. I'm >>671148 btw
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>>671133
>board "culture"
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Each board has its own users and subject, so it's inevitable that all of them will develop their own culture which should be respected, at least up to a certain point. If someone doesn't understand a board's culture, they should lurk the fuck more.
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>>671161
Because there's no need for 5-6 threads in a row about this shit.
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>>670773
>>670738
Meta threads are against the global rules. You can only have them on certain boards, like /qa/, /trash/, etc.
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>>671162
pic related?
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>>671156
This, he's where the buck stops. He should grow a pair and start laying down the law.
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>>671161
People made like 4 new fucking threads after one of them got to bump limit (which was about one hour before it got archived). They deserved to be shitposted to hell.
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Filter 'cuck" and "shill."
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>>671161
do we really need 6 threads for this shit, fuck off. we got a general agreement and we don't need a constant chain.
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>>671171
Are you fucking with me? Because if you are then congrats because i'm fucking floored with disbelief.
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>>671181
I like that picture.
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>>671166
Board culture is usually brought up only by certain boards to justify off-topic. I've never seen /an/ or /ck/ complaining about how moderation threatens their culture.
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>>671181
good birb
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>>671185
But /jp/ is all about the board culture.
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>>671189
And that's a problem on /jp/. It's not supposed to be about board culture, it's supposed to be about Japanese culture.
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>>671143
They aren't now. Most of the people trying to witchhunt the mods are autists and shitposters mad about being warned.
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>>671191
Japanese board culture.
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>>671191
>it's supposed to be about Japanese culture.
Otaku culture, actually, and /jp/ is a decent enough reflection of shit like Futaba.

Then again, so are /a/ and the weeb-er parts of other boards.
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>>671191
>Japanese culture
Since when? And how come threads about japanese culture get deleted?
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>>671189
old /jp/ is dead, you should accept this fact and move on, it was a good run, now its time for newcomers to discuss babymetal? idols? japan related stuff
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>>670461

Reading Hiro's responses are starting to make me cringe a bit.
>please make regulations
>why dont you make it?

HOW ABOUT YOU DO THAT SHIT SINCE YOU'RE THE GOD DAMN FUCKING ADMIN AND YOU LITERALLY -L I T E R A L L Y- RUN THIS SHIT

YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU FUCKING WANT
PEOPLE IN THE THREAD ARE TELLING YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
WHY DID YOU EVEN BUY THIS SITE
YOU PROBABLY CANT EVEN SAY THE WORD "QUEST" PROPERLY

MOOT MADE BAD DECISIONS BUT AT LEAST HE FUCKING MADE DECISIONS
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>>671194
>>671195
"(in Japan) a young person who is obsessed with computers or particular aspects of popular culture to the detriment of their social skills."
Otaku Culture is not exclusively about posting stupid Touhou stuff on image boards. There's a lot more to it.

>>671196
Slip of the tongue, but it's still basically about Japan/things Japanese nerds do/actual weeaboo board.
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>>671200
>old /jp/ is dead
As long as you keep that defeatist attitude.
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>>671204
Hiro is a great believer of the idea that the users are the ones who should moderate their imageboard, and I love him for that. Sadly, most of this place is completely incapable of self-moderation by this point.
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>>671137
But many people will complain endlessly no matter what if you let them. Those people should be warned, then b& if they won't settle down on a board meant to discuss some topic, rather than bitch randomly.
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>>671212
>Hiro is a great believer of the idea that the users are the ones who should moderate their imageboard
The poor guy doesn't know that isn't possible here.
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>>671204
He doesn't know how to make changes without a developer or a mod holding his hand through the whole process
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>>671212
He doesn't seem to get that we can't take control because of the mods
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>>671212
>Hiro is a great believer of the idea that the users are the ones who should moderate their imageboard
He should have bought 8gag then
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>>671218
Make it so that only reported posts can be deleted by the janitor.
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>>671225
This is actually a great idea, though it might not work so well for the fastest boards
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>>671212
>Hiro is a great believer of the idea that the users are the ones who should moderate their imageboard,

That's nice. But this isnt fucking Reddit where we can downvote shit and I'm not a fucking mod.
How the fuck am I supposed to moderate shit? Yell at people?
Self-moderation is fucking garbage, anyway. Just look at Reddit, Tumblr, etc.
The only reason some boards seem to get by with it is because their mods are helping out and they keep the newfags in line one way or another.

Our only power as users is to talk to the mods and admin and none of them are listening.
Which would be fine if Hiro actually made his own decisions in the first place.

We're better off asking Swaglord. He's basically the real admin and Hiro exists just to own the site for some reason.
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>>671248

>8 threads

I think that's less than one page but I dont use /tg/ myself.
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>>671248
not as bad as /jp/ lol
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>>671254
That's just the ones that were lined up at the top of page 1.
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>>671248
One of those isn't a quest.

But yeah, that's pretty much why I suggested a built-in filter if quests do come back to /tg/.
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>>671169
There should be a temporary suspension of the meta thread rule until all this shit is figured out.
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>>671275
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>>671254
That's actually from two years ago during the peak.

As of last week, there were maybe five quests still running regularly on /tg/.

Which is why moving them to their own board was a monumentally retarded decision. It was done to appease people so stupid that they think that their little thread filters should determine what is or isn't allowed on a board.
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>>671281
People will bitch endlessly no matter what changes are made, so it will never be figured out. Best to leave it, and mention the existence of /qa/ before the threads are deleted if you see them.
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>>671290
Deleting /qa/ and allowing up to one meta-thread per month on any board would be a better idea, this way you don't get people from this board trying to enforce changes on boards they don't browse.
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>>671286
>As of last week, there were maybe five quests still running regularly on /tg/.

Yeah, because /qst/ was put in place months ago and the majority of them are -there- now.

/tg/ pre-/qst/ had a damned river of the things.
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please do something about cp on /tv/ hiro it's horrible
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>>671296
No it didn't.
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>>671294
>this way you don't get people from this board trying to enforce changes on boards they don't browse.
Yes you would. You'd get people visiting boards and those threads just to influence them. /qa/ is a useful containment board.
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The current thread on /asp/ is certain about one thing. The faggot known as "Carter" needs to be removed from his post immediately, and moderation must be brought to /asp/ before any other changes are considered. There is talk of wrestling and alternative sports being separated into two boards for one another, but I'm not sure if any of us have reached a consensus on that yet. I want to reiterate the fact that moderation must be properly enforced on /asp/ and shitposting must be curbed. This would be solved if Carter was removed permanently.
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>>670496
>light novels on /a/
No.
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We need /cel/
>inb4 HURRR WE HAVE IT ALREADY IT'S CALLED /hr/
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>>671310
More light novels get adapted to anime than manga nowadays, or they're getting close to that level. LNs are definitely part of the same group that includes anime and manga nowadays, the only reason moot banished them to /jp/ years ago is because they weren't as notable back then as they are today.
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>>671220
But he fucking made 2ch, shouldn't he have some idea?
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hiro
can you please legalize shitposting for all boards

i saw on twitter and it said like this: "Now, you can shitposting as always."
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>>671315
4chan is very proprietary software at this point. He has the skills to learn quickly enough, but there's little need to when he has devs to do it.
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>>671314
This.
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Ok Hiro what do we do now?
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>>671314
If a LN has an anime, make a thread about the anime, and start talking about how it compares to the LN. Then you can talk about the LN. If it doesn't have an animu/mango, then fuck off to /jp/ with it. Simple.
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>>671314
>more light novels get adapted to anime than manga nowadays
not really

>moot banished them to /jp/ years ago because they weren't as notable bavk then as they are today

Again, not really.
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>>671308
We are still working on it.
>>>/asp/1761072
>>671315
And guess what happened to it. He lost it because of his incompetence.
>>671317
Bullshit, proof or gtfo.
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>>671332
Nice job ignoring the point of that post and parroting the current rules instead.
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>>671204
He somehow has the weird idea that the 4chan userbase holds any significant power in this site, or has at least the smallest of leverages over how to govern it.

The truth is that, other than a full-scale board rebellion or a site-wide riot against the janitors, we don't. We only have the report button, and the hope somebody gives a shit about the report and we don't get banned because somebody thought it would be funny to ban everyone reporting that day.
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>>671340
Nice job ignoring the point and parroting bulshit.
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>>671248
Woah
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>>671344
Nice job ignoring nice job and saying nice job instead.
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daily reminder that you reddit fucks don't speak for the website when you ask for more stringent moderation

if it was up to you every board would be 100% generals
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>>671299
December 2014: 727/6532 (threads with "quest" in title / total non-deleted threads)
June 2015: 714/6348
December 2015: 589/5695

They were regularly more than 10% of the board and they clustered on the front page due to voting/one-line-action posts.

/qst/ was made for a reason.
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>>671356
>le reddit ghost

The point of this, at least in part, is to get rid of generals.
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>>671356
I ain't such a thing. I'm just sick of politics everywhere I look.
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>>671368
There's absolutely nothing wrong with recurring threads about a particular subject, the so-called generals. If any general in particular is bad, that's because its subject itself is bad enough to attract cancerous posters.
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>>671362
>December 2014: 11.12%
>June 2015: 11.24%
>December 2015: 10.34%

I'm seeing a pattern here, and it's not the one you're trying to spin. More than 10% is technically correct, but only by the very smallest of margins.
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So many people here keep saying they want strict mods. Why not go to fucking reddit then?
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>>671377
There is if there is noting to talk about and people posts just for the sake of posting.
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>>671396
why?
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>>671389
More than 10% is a page by itself (and doesn't include people that refused to tag their quests).

Would /a/ be fine with 10+% of its threads, and half or more of its front page, consistently being about what it would be like to make anime based on various tabletop settings?
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>>671397
4chan is a place for dumb discussion about dumb things, posting stupid shit for the sake of posting should be common around here. Stop trying to make 4chan into a place for serious discussion.
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>>671402
>(and doesn't include people that refused to tag their quests).
Those weren't as common as you seem to think they were.
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>>671402
>Would /a/ be fine with 10+% of its threads, and half or more of its front page, consistently being about what it would be like to make anime based on various tabletop settings?
Would these threads be easily filterable and completely avoidable by using the native catalog
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>>671402
>(and doesn't include people that refused to tag their quests)
These aren't common.
But your search does include a whole bunch of false positives, which bumps the numbers up.

Your /a/ analog doesn't hold up, since quests are varied, and most aren't even anime based.
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>>671396
I get that any remote presence of anything that can be construed as authority galvanizes your adolescent angst and reminds you of when your dad told you to get off the computer and go play sports but understand that not all of us are so afflicted with trauma okay sonny?
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>>671411
>Needing strict and imposing authority on a website for discussion of Tibetan tapestry
Are you incapable of ignoring shit you don't like?
Also, this: >>671212
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>>671407
Catalog view is shit for browsing, albeit useful for searching for threads with specific topics.

"Well, it only ruins the board in the normal browsing mode" is a very poor excuse.
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>>671411
>I love being restricted to my freedom
Again, reddit is a good place for you and discussion
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>>671415
>I don't like the default browsing mode
>"Here are some options to customize it to your liking."
>but I don't like the default browsing mode

Put "quest" in the filter, the 10% of the board that you don't want to see disappears.
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>>671418
christ, the catalog is the default view to him
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>>671418
>Put "quest" in the filter
...And the default view is unchanged.
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>>671423
>I'm hungry
>You should eat some food
>But if I eat food I won't be hungry

That's some good arguing
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>wen you learn to use meme arrow's
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Daily reminder to suck my balls. A small vocal minority doesnt make up a board.

Its hard to fix cuckchan because anyone can impersonate which board they are from. So only admins have say on what board will be about then have mods enforce. The cons of being anonymouse
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>>671425
Filters don't apply to the default view, you mong. Only the catalog.
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>>671396
Because not wanting to be like leddit isn't an excuse for having to suffer through dozens of cuck/interracial/bestiality/scat threads on /tv/, or shit like this: >>671420
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>>671420
Either Alphonse is a mod or he's a Janitor
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>>671430
>Filters don't apply to the default view, you mong
They do.
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>>670473
More like we need guidelines for what should be allowed and what not.

Fuck off with shit like gaiming channel sharing, that type of threads are nothing but circlejerk, beggers and faggots, however I would also argue that whole threads for shit like 1 Youtube video is also annoying, however adding a general would be even worse.

I'd say move it to /trash/, Youtube faggotry might be related but the amount of cancer it's just too much for an already shitty board.
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>>671434
Tested before posting to make sure the behavior hadn't changed. They don't.
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>>671430
>Filters don't apply to the default view, you mong.
Yeah they do. I just went on /qst/ and put "quest" in the subject filter, and now the only quests that show up in default view are the ones that don't have Quest in the subject field.
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Generals should be disallowed. They completely shut down free discussion because everyone just jumps into their own little thread that just *has* to hit the bump limit.

When an anon asks a question and the first couple of replies direct him to a general, that's shit.
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>>670461
>OP makes shit up about boards
>we are still rolling with how to fix nonexistent problems
huh.
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I get the impression that Hiro will never be sufficiently familiarized with 4chan, and thus will never do the shit moot did, like MOOT IS OLEV, or changing the board's names.
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>>671447
>we
the only ones who can do something don't give a shit
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>>671440
Did the same just now.
102 hidden threads in catalog mode, so the filter's set up correctly. Melancholic Quest 26 still visible in normal mode.

You probably glanced at the first page and saw Flower in the Snow or For House and Dominion at the top, and stopped looking.
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FREE /sp/ FROM NAZI MODERATION, GIVE US FREEDOM FROM MODS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE SPORTS

GIVE US BACK OUR /sp/

we literally can't even discuss athletes without getting 404d; I got banned for making a post about my sportsfu while /a/ is allowed to make ass threads about their animu characters.
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>>671452
>You probably glanced at the first page and saw Flower in the Snow or For House and Dominion at the top, and stopped looking.

Check my settings. Only four threads show up on the front page (the stubs are hidden) and none of them have Quest in the title. Second page has four threads, none of which have Quest in the title.
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Hiro's never coming back isn't he.
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Just filter the fucking word reddit already.
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>>671442
Sorry that you're too angry at condensed threads to be able to use them properly. I hope people never stop shitting on you for making new threads instead of using the fucking catalog and asking your questions on the threads that already exist about that topic.
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I have no particularly strong feelings towards 4chan slowly becoming another reddit/tumblr, if anything it means I can finally be free again.

Newfags arrived too late to enjoy the golden age 5, 10 years ago where there was one fresh OC a day and mods didn't really give a shit and showed up maybe once a month.

Nowadays it's "discuss on-topic things or fuck right off", mods delete whatever rubs them the wrong way, things that hurt feelings gets deleted fast on the pretense of "not contributing to the discussion", and other flimsy excuses.
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>>671457
I was going to "Filters" instead of "Settings->Filters". I didn't know there was a second one. And enabling Infinite Scroll would partially fix having large parts of the first page hidden, though I'm not a huge fan of it.

That helps. I'd prefer not to have to fuck around with it at all, but original-volume quest threads would go from pain-in-the-ass to slightly-annoying.
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>>671465
Wordfilters are routinely circumvented. It should be /s,reddit,ebaumsworld,ig/
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>>671474
Yeah, I didn't know about it right away either. I don't know why one set of filters doesn't register on both catalog and default.
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>>671453
You're better off leaving and going to 76chan
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>>671448
Sadly the same
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Considering everything we did today Hiro, I hope you have a solution ready to go for us.
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>>671471
/int/ is literally /general/ now. it's fucking sad.
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>>671503
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>>671508
What was /int/ intended to be in first place? i've never managed to figure that out.
Posting bears and balls or something?
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>>671503
You must be delusional if you think he'll do shit.
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>>671503
He made you all ruin plenty of boards for one day. Great job.
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remove every non japanese board on 4chan. we dont want redditors
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>>671526
Just add katakana captcha.
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>>671524
We did expose that the mods don't give a shit about him
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>>671520
Maybe it'll be different...I hope
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WE NEED /FILM/
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D E L U S I O N A L


;_;
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>>671524
t. sweating mod
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>>671503
Anon just make your own regulations.
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>>671473
As 4chan becomes progressively more normalfag I expect that I'll leave and go to an actual place for normalfags that's better moderated.
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>>671133
Oh look it's the /jp/ janny.
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Hiromoot, if you're still out there by some miracle, please answer one simple question: did you direct a mod to create /qst/ and move posters there, or not?

There's probably an atheism joke in there somewhere, but I'm not in the mood.
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>>671337
>opinions
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>>671694
This isn't about opinions. When it comes to cold hard numbers, we're dealing in objective facts. That said, the other person is a retard for just saying "not really" instead of providing some evidence.

I'm going to check the latest season and see who is right: http://anichart.net/fall

19 manga vs. 2 light novels. Yeah, >>671314 is a little retarded.
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>>671702
so in other words, anime is made from LNs and LNs belong to /a/.
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well thats it for 2months

Did you all have fun? stick around if you like while we wait for hiros next post
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>>671298
>CP ON /TV/ OR /SP/
tell me more, what kind of CP is it?
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>>671715
make thread and we solve it ;^)
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>>671719
Sporting CP
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>>671722
what is sporting CP
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>>670463
You could just put this all into a single sentence.

4chan is fucked and Hiro doesn't care.

Either he really can't understand English or else he pretends to have trouble understanding so he can continue to do sweet fuck all. He continues to make the same suggestions we have shown and proven do not work, or that even violate the rules of 4chan. He either is too stupid to see what is happening, unable to communicate in English to grasp it or else a third option. Because we know he had education outside Japan. So his "no no speaky good Engrish" persona is bullshit. He's not stupid but he pretends to be. The simple an unavoidable truth is that.

HE
DOES
NOT
CARE
ABOUT
4CHAN

And frankly, I see why. If of were any of us trying to fox this shot,we'd probably give up too. He just wants to make as much off this site as he can and for that we can't really blame him. Its just an asset to him, not a community.

It'd be nice if he was honest about this at least.

Ah well, I guess the ride really is coming to an end.
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>>671723
they were cucked by Real Madrid yesterday
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>>671679
Based on what was gathered yesterday, I'd say it was a mod who made it, probably the rouge /tg/ one who Hiro then allowed to make because Hiro is clueless.
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>>671724
Guess your right at this point
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Hiro remove the racism rule, it's 2016 race doesn't exist anymore
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Remove the generals from /sp/
They kill the creativity and vitality of the board by segregating /sp/artans and discouraging impromptu standalone threads.

Those waves of impromptu threads render the front page a beautifully unpredictable portrait of /sp/'s collective id at a particular moment in time.

You get a better quality of overall content from the board because getting your thread to garner replies and compete against the rest of the front page requires more creativity and intelligence and brilliance than merely posting in a general.

It also means that you don't need to dig in this general or that general in order to get a sense of what the big thing in sports is on a particular day - you'll be overwhelmed by it just by looking at the front page or catalogue. What's more, you'll be exposed to what makes that story so engaging because /sp/artans will necessarily add wit and whimsy to their OPs in order to grab people's attention. It makes /sp/ a far more rewarding place to come as a result.

As someone who's been here since 2009 I can assure you that the board is way better when it's not neatly divided into insular generals. The quality of posting and the vibrancy and vitality of the board is so much better when the board is a mosaic of impromptu creativity.
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Keep /pol/ in /pol/, i sick of all the racebait everytime there's some international tournament
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For all intents and purposes, Hiro has basically run on a program of benign neglect for 4chan seeing as the few times he has posted, he delegates solution making to the community, even though the community has no way of coming to a true consensus nor effectively being able to communicate with the moderation team or Hiro. It is expected since the Mods never have open dialogue with the community (To be honest, that is a good thing because it just devolve into MODS = FAGS.) and have become increasing insular since moot implemented global rule 8. And unless there is an outright revolt from a board where a board's community would rather burn it to the ground than accept the new policy (/a/ is a perfect example of this with the Lolicaust and Nipplegate) There is no way to give feedback and know it is being implemented.


I think we're going about this wrong, we should not be asking Hiro to fix 4chan, since he clearly does not have the time for it. We should ask him to defer day to day operations to someone who has an understanding of the board's communities and dynamics and then build a new team around that individual.

Basically we need another moot. A person who administrator, but is still accountable to hiro.

One of the major reasons why 4chan remains the only major surviving western image board is because moot was an effective macro and micro manager where unless there was some huge event. (Like getting a subpoena, or a community of posters completely occupying another board.) He was not going to change things unless it was necessary to stop board or cultural stagnation. (Such as utilizing the word filter to force people to say new things, or at least get creative in bypassing the filters.) We need someone who has the pulse of the people, but at the same time has a clear vision so they would not make arbitrary changes or add boards because the people posting at the time demand it.


Feel free to ignore.
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>>671442
THIS
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>hiro is barely breaking even on 4chan
>people actually parroting the 'he's doing it for moneyzzz!!' /pol/ conspiracy
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>>671765
>We should ask him to defer day to day operations to someone who has an understanding of the board's communities and dynamics and then build a new team around that individual.
That's actually not a bad idea. I mean if Hiro could find someone he knows or trusts to help run this place it would help a lot. Question is finding someone Hiro knows who wants to be a part of 4chan and also has no ties to the mods
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So almost every 'suggestion' thread for the mods on every board has been saged/deleted.

Sasuga moderation team.

Also Sasuga Hiro for coming by, making a huge shitstorm, and then doing nothing. Literally nothing about it.

If we hired a blind chimp to be the admin of 4chan, and locked him in a room with a computer: There would at least be hope of the chimp accidentally doing something that would interact with the website. Hiro can't even do that.

>N-no I don't want to do anything that m-might rock the boat, I'll just assume everything is OK and let other people do it for me.
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>>671784
That's the problem, the only english speakers he really 'knows' are people who are part of the moderation circlejerk who just want to keep the status quo.

Plus, he clearly doesn't care enough to do things himself. His suggestions so far just boil down to "Well, maybe if you just wish really hard, you can overcome the moderators with the power of hope and friendship!"
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>ALL this butthurt
Hiro is based. Don't change anything. These threads are pure gold.
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>>671788
If I realized 4chan was a shonen I'd have stopped reading years ago.
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>>671790
>Hiro is based for letting a bunch of complete strangers walk all over him and shit all over the community
>Hiro is based for seriously believing that the community can dictate rules to the people who can wantonly ban them.

Hello Mod scum.
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>>671404
>for dumb discussion about dumb things
No it's fucking not, you little cunt.
>Stop trying to make 4chan into a place for serious discussion.
4chan is a place to seriously discuss certain things within their own boards, with like minded people who give a damn about the topics.

There is a board for dumb shit and it's called /b/.
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>>671248
>Civ
>PACYOA
>Senate roleplay
Nice reality distortion, fuckface.
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>>671453
>I got banned for making a post about my sportsfu while /a/ is allowed to make ass threads about their animu characters.
The difference is that 3DPD is trash and anyone who seriously has a 3DPD waifu should be taken into the street and publicly executed the fucking scum he is.
Fuck off Facebook if you want that normalfag shit. That isn't what 4chan is for. Hell, that isn't what the Internet is for. I fucking hate you faggots who keep brining IRL shit online.
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>>671347
It's almost like faggots intentionally make it as unreadable as possible to take those screenshots so they can complain about how much undue stress they have about having to share the image board with other people.
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>>671524
Stop posting outside of /j/ if you aren't going to use your capcode, hotpocket scum.
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>>671248
I never understood what these images are trying to prove

There are threads on imageboards that don't interest you, personally, and therefore *they should be banned*?

holy shit
these are people demanding actual 4chan safespaces specifically for themselves. I wonder how the mods feel about pandering to these losers.
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I do hope he gives us acknowledgement that hes seen our attempts
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>>671802
He ignored that it happened in the last thread he was in.
We gave him a direct link to threads deleted by mods that he wanteds to exist.
He asked for proof.
Then told us to do it again.
The cunt doesn't care.
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>>671788
He did at least seem to admit the moderation lacked communication.

>>671811
Maybe not. Still he did pop into the other threads posted on the boards, though it's not saying much
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>>671511
Those are orangs you idiot.
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>>671798
From the way they've been handling /tg/ and /qst/ as of late we can infer the current mod is basically one of them.
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>>671925
There's a /qst/-specific thread here:

>>665263
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Well RIP
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>>671757
are you retarded? have you ever been to a sporting event
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>>671362
Numbers please, because I just checked and you pulled these straight from your ass.
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Remember when we used to have these things called "moderators" and "janitors"? It was a long time ago, I admit, but it was kind of nice for a short while.

Now, it's possibly a crazy idea, but why not have them delete threads that are off-topic or otherwise rule breaking? As a bonus, the mods might actually look at their report queue to see if there are any such threads.
E.g.:
>>>/a/147239548

I realize I'm getting a bit extreme here, but it just might work.
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>>670461
I've got a suggestion to improve 4chan, reunite the two /RWBYG/s

And whilst it isn't my suggestion, it's still good, we need a futa board.
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>>672229
Isn't /d/ the futa board?
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>>672233
Only by default and to the annoyance of many.
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>>672195
>First post at 11:31
>Deleted at 12:29

An HOUR. It took an hour for this to get removed.
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>>>/co/86295474
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Come the fuck on Hiro
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>>671503
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHA

He will play either the "I dont understand your post" card or the more favourite "Fix it yourself" card.

Like if it was not obvious after the last thread.
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>>672195
It sad that /a/ has been reduced to this.
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>>672268
>>672431
>>>/a/147249718
How many posts in such threads do you report? I give them about 5 or 6, so if someone's awake (apparently not) they can see the report queue.
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>>672732
And another one.
>>>/a/147249752

Are they only picking up one janitor for each recruitment drive?
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>>672742
that bother you, there was a blog asking for recommendations up for hours and it got archived
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>>671432
>671432
This
Same goes for Redwood.

I'm conflicted about listening to Hiro because I'm concerned that he's too afraid to change anything.

Like he's worried that there exists a delicate balance and that if he changes something, all bets are off.
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>tfw this is /tv/
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>>673026
I would rather have that and EASTER? spam than /pol/'s catalog and their constant raiding.
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>>673030
cuck detected
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>>>/asp/1761072
LOOK AT IT HIRO! THAT'S ALL WE ASK!
Thread posts: 342
Thread images: 30


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