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>>138742264


Index:

1) Classism

As a society we discriminate against the working poor. We should stop.

2) Violence

If we allow punching nazis, who gets to define what a nazi is?

3) Free Speech

If we allow the restriction of speech, who do we trust to restrict it?

4) Innocent until proven guilty

If accusation is guilt, terrible injustices will follow.

5) Immigration and Class

We should listen to the poor’s views on immigration.

6) Immigration and Politics

We should be critical of political interests regarding immigration.

7) Judicial Bias & Statistical Science

We should accept that the pursuit of truth is frequently uncomfortable.

8) Affirmative Action

There exist cogent, non-racist counter arguments to affirmative action.

9) Cultural Appropriation

There are many inconsistencies and problems with the idea of cultural appropriation.

10) Gender Wage Gap

We should be honest and fearless when studying what the wage gap is and its causes.

11) Expendable Men

We should remove the stigma surrounding addressing some problems facing men.

12) Problematic monuments

We should carefully consider how we feel regarding history and its erasure.

13) Abortion

There are two reasonable sides to this debate. We should try to understand our opposition.

14) Mao, Marx, and Stalin

We should be as critical of leftist evil as we are of rightist evil.

15) What is diversity?

We should strive for intellectual diversity as well as phenotypic diversity.

16) Pronouns and the Gender Spectrum

We should properly discuss what pronouns are before leaping to legislation.

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>>138742264

(1) Redneck, Hillbilly, White Trash, Hick, “Cousin-fucker”, and other Words to Insult the (often white) Poor

It is a truism in many liberal circles that there exists no substantial discrimination against White Americans. While this is true in some senses - especially if one endorses the Thompsonian view that racism is only impactful if compounded by institutional, social, or historic discrimination - there are, nonetheless, many words routinely used to denigrate poor whites. Consider the above: how often has one heard one’s left-wing friends scoff at “hicks’, “hillbillies”, “rednecks”, and so on? Many individuals, especially the poor, the non-urban, and the disenfranchised, are deeply - and reasonably - hurt by this type of language, which is entirely ubiquitous in television and internet media, and in everyday conversation. Hillary Clinton’s infamous (and possibly election-losing) ‘Basket of Despicables’ is, perhaps, the apotheosis of this idea. If we hope to engage in fruitful dialogue across the aisle, recognizing the full humanity of each other is important, and this process begins by avoiding language that denigrates or dehumanizes groups of people. A class-conscious critique can be added to the above, regardless of one’s political orientation: there is something unsavoury about the sheer amount and richness of vocabulary that Americans can draw upon to insult the poor. Schematically, the use of language that denigrates the humanity of a group of people by the left functionally enables the use of language that denigrates the humanity of a group of people by the right. I am particularly interested in this type of structural isometry between the rhetoric of the right and left, and fully believe that a progressive position requires the rejection of the content (eg. derogatory language towards minorities, etc.) as well as the structure (the permissibility of the use of derogatory language against any group).

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>>138742264

(2) Punch a Nazi: The Permissibility of Violence Against a Group, and the Problems of Designation

There was recently a meme circulating on my Facebook and Twitter feeds that endorsed “punching a nazi”. The spirit of the sentiment is one that many of us share: that Nazis are intolerable, that the consummation of their ideology is an existential threat to large groups of humans, and that resistance against them, including violence, is permissible. In the case of my family, several of my ancestors lost their lives either in battle or by persecution of fascists, and my house shed blood and treasure holding back the Nazis; consequently, I too hold the majority of these views, but I see two problems inherent with them.
Firstly, the endorsement of violence as a means of political activism. I imagine that the majority of us wouldn’t wish any political movement to pursue violence to achieve its aims, however laudable those aims may be - many of us value stability and peace extremely highly, and are happy to accept that change should happen slowly and democratically, without resort to violence and revolution.
Secondly, there is the issue of diagnosis. If we allow that “punching a nazi” is permissible or desirable, a question arises: Who are the nazis? Whoever has the power to designate a human as a nazi now also has the power of violence over that human. By creating a subcategory of person against whom violence is acceptable, we are opening the gates to horrific abuse. Consider that some might consider a person who wears a red MAGA baseball cap, or a certain haircut, to be a ‘nazi’: the possibility of misclassification, or rather the subjectivity of classification makes this meme exceptionally dangerous.

>>138742069
explain how

>>138742069
so you're a socialist
who is also anti-semitic
possibly nationalist?

maybe you might actually be a nationalist and a socialist at the same time? is there a name for that kind of thing i wonder hmmmm...

Why aren't you listening to Stormfront Radio every day at 9am est?

>>138741666
There's one in the picture

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>>138741666
Yeah, about that, they went extinct.

>>138741666
The nigger from bad santa was a midget.

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Literally angry college kids who can't find a place to sleep.

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>>138741605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Vl9Ko-nC4

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>>138741605

>>138741448
That's some heavy freedom there anarchist...

>>138741448
OH IM GETTING FUCKING SUPPRESSED AGAIN

This post fails its own cyclical logic. If it is True, that no actual Truths appear here, then it is False. Should have just said no other actual truths will appear here.

That said, this post has some accuracy. /pol has very little truths, much of it is controlled opposition. Most of the Frogs and ANTIFA here have no clue they are being manipulated by the same master, or if they do, they are actively working for "the enemy". Porn desensitivity is a farse, looks like "they" already got to the OP a bit.

The difference is that the soviets were a militaristic socialist state and modern leftists are just directionless anarchists who are just as much of a fringe ideology as the nazis they oppose.
Two memes clashing underneath the heel of neoliberalism. Face it, you're just as irrelevant as anyone else

>>138741710
Because fundamentally socialism is for the people and the people will always overcome

>>138741710
>debunked racial theory nonsense

ah, my sociology professor too told me that racism is all nonsense and offered literally no evidence to the contrary

i am an enlightened open minded individual and i deserve all the pussy in the world

>>138741382
Typical lefty strawmen.

>>138741382
WTF, none of them are even outrageous.

>>138741696
Racist

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>>138741153
I'm not proud enough to deny that we need help with sorting this oUT because clearly our pm is too much of a virtue signaling asshole to do anything about it.
Burgers we need your help here.

what is the ethnicity of these migrant refugees to Canada?

are they Mexicans, Africans, or Haitians?

If they were white, they would be staying in an apartment while their paperwork was being processed.

Mexicans, Africans, and Haitians depend on government gibs for survival.

A related question: Can Canada move this "tent city" to the Yukon Territory for the next 6 months? would be great seeing how many of these migrants could survive a Canadian winter in a tent.

>>138742419
Almost exclusively Haitian.

So you have two categories (generally) of illegal aliens in the US: people who crossed the US border illegally, and people who entered the US on a valid document (e.g. visa) and overstayed.

Haitians are one such group that frequently enters the US on tourist visas and then refuse to leave after they expire.

Under bush some come, more under Obama. And then the earthquake hits Haiti in 2010. Obama grants temporary protected status, regularly extended, to the Haitians. If you were in the US before Jan 21, 2010 (extended later to July 23, 2011), while the status is in effect you won't be deported and you can even get an EAD (work authorization) in the US. This is regularly extended like clockwork...

Up until Trump comes into office. Obama did his last extension of 6 months in November 2016, expiring May 2017. Trump's admin looks at the situation and forcing all of these people out with no warning isn't quite fair or good looking. So they extend it one last time by six months to November 2017, warning all the Haitians that they should use this time to plan their departure from the US.

The Haitians are freaking out, most are economic migrants (illegally entering countries with better economies). They would rather be in Canada then go back to Haiti.

If the Haitians tried at an airport/train station/drive through/walk over border crossing, they would be denied entry to Canada.

But if they illegally cross at Roxham Road in Champlain, NY, then once they set foot on Canadian soil they lose their status in the US, so Canada can't turn them around. They apply for asylum, and once they actually get processed, they can appeal any denial of their asylum claim on hardship for time spent in Canada (especially if they have an anchor baby on Canadian soil in the interim).

>>138740839
In Arizona dust storms are very common.

That is a dust storm

>>138740839
Probably sweat evaporating in the heat.

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>>138740839

D-d-drain the s-swamp

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>>138740834
LOOK, WE KNOW WE FUCKED UP OKAY???? YOU DONT HAVE TO KEEP RUBBING IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>138740834
sup /sg/ shitskins

Stalin killed people nigga

>>138740831
Who are the innocent people that Trump is ready to purge?

>>138740831
Stalin purged religion, like the NWO liberals

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bumperino

I do feel like this is a proper time to ninja out.

LOL drumpfkins fake news

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>>138740955
All non oriental religions that spawned
after Judaism, are lies, and make believe
they all took from the jewish faith, and
starting writing their own faggoty little
religious fanfics, it's the same as Marvel vs DC, or Kirk vs Picard, it doesn't matter, at the end of the day, your religion is fake, even Judaism is fake, but at least they didn't take bits and pieces from another religion, and say "But it's true duuuuuurrrrrrrr"

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>>138740955
I think they can just be left to their own devices tbqh

>>138740955
By having them go to confession more often

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Get an islamic qt. Don't fight against this desire. Be his infidel, let him take care of your sins, let him wage his jihâd on you.

>>138219246
So one group had a permit to lawfully assemble, and they disbanded because a group who currently don't own a permit came to protest against them? They basically hijacked the rally. :(

Notice how he introduced the president last night..."My friend, President Trump"

He seems very happy with the situation

>>138740665
I think the debate between Pence and Kaine helped Trump a lot too, gave him a good chance to show how well spoken and reasonable he is.

>>138741462
Of course he's happy. He watched House of Cards like the rest of us, so he knows it's just a matter of time before he's the most powerful man in the world through a completely undemocratic process.