How do we save roman catholics from eternal hell?

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>>138740955
All non oriental religions that spawned
after Judaism, are lies, and make believe
they all took from the jewish faith, and
starting writing their own faggoty little
religious fanfics, it's the same as Marvel vs DC, or Kirk vs Picard, it doesn't matter, at the end of the day, your religion is fake, even Judaism is fake, but at least they didn't take bits and pieces from another religion, and say "But it's true duuuuuurrrrrrrr"

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>>138740955
I think they can just be left to their own devices tbqh

>>138740955
By having them go to confession more often

>>138740955
By getting them to go to confession.

>>138740955
I've never heard a catholic comndemn christians for their religion, neither the other way around, in fact both religions are very friendly with eachother, at least here in Latin America. We even have mormons and Jehova's witnesses.

stop leaving your kids around us

Sedevacantist churches

By teaching them the Biblical (i.e. Jewish) tradition.

>>138741944
No, SSPX churches

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>>138741405
Instead of their stupid pagan idols they should have bee making trendy charts like this one from wikipedia

Would have very helpful in church

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>>138740955
we spam this image

Go to confession and you're good. Do Protestants seriously not get this?

>>138742015
Sorry for samefagging I was just changing my flag back to normal

Well, there is literally no valid reason to believe in Hell, so I don't understand why anyone is even concerned about this.

>>138743605
See you on the last day

Hurr durr, my worship of the jewish god is better than your worship of the jewish god.

>>138743605

This, the faggot is right.

So every person that ever lived before someone wrote a book about a god went to hell for not knowing about a book that would be written in the future?

>>138744121

This board is full of people who believe things without sufficient evidence. It's basically a giant circle jerk where people get their views reinforced by seeing that other people hold them as well, and not by actually examining evidence and being self-critical.

For instance, I'm not actually gay. I just chose that flag for fun. If anyone looks at my posts and thinks I am gay, they are believing something without sufficient evidence.

>>138741516
>>138741680
3&4PBP

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Hey quick question for protestants, how far am I allowed to streach my interpretation of the bible?

How do we stop Catholics from their Saturn worship?

>>138741680
>>138741516
Loophole morality is no morality.

>>138745173
There is more than protestant group and thus more than one answer

>>138740955
Nobody's going to hell because God never existed

>>138745173

About as far as Protestants were stretched on the rack during the Inquisition.

Really though, I don't know how anyone sincerely believes in religion. Protestant or Catholic or whatever. None of it warrants belief.

>>138740955
Kill the pope, he is a communist traitor.

explain the jews-Jesuits run the catholics, its just a jew business that brainwashes goy into believing the jew is god chosen.

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>>138744647
>I-I-I just chose it for fun. Ha ha. It's not like I'm gay, just m-making a point!

Electrocute the fruit.

>>138745737

Oh no, a fucking no-life loser expressed a desire on the Internet to kill me for a characteristic that I don't actually have. Whatever will I do?

As a non-Christian that enjoy some Christian apologetics. Proddies are clearly theologically wrong, there is no way of getting around it.

>>138742091
>he thinks the Bible forbids someone from calling your father father
>wrong, apostles forgave sin
>Hebrews 11-12
>WRONG!
>Hebrews 11-12
>Idol worship doesn't exist in the Catholic church

>>138745373
Let's say I wanted to start my own denominations where YHWH is kind of a bumbling cute now girl and all her acts are either total accidents or a misunderstood comedy of errors? Or preach that god loves men in the way an abusive master loves his pet? Like just be open about how much of a jerk he is regularly and his great plan and reason for evil in the world is "It's just a prank bro"

>>138740955
Petition the Holy Spirit to move through current pope's brain and make him in-cucked.

>>138744647
Would you like to meet up & suck each other's dicks some time? :) (I'm not gay either btw.)

>>138747284

Nah bro, the only time I want to interact with you or your family is to squat your mom for a world record.

>>138746597
Protestantism in a nutshell

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All Roman Catholics

>>138746570
let's take it one step at a time
Matthew 23:8-9 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

>>138741387
Buddhism is false

>>138742091

Never meet a protestant that didn't call his actual father, father. Why the hypocrisy?

>>138740955

1. Bring them to the realization that their faith is in their church to save them.

2. Demonstrate how what they have been taught by their church cannot be backed up in the bible.

3. Show them how the institution they love is the most evil institution on earth, and that if they stay in it, they will suffer.

The only Catholics I have seen get saved were saved because they realized these three things were true, and that they had been lied to about their church history.

>>138745173
The bible speaks for itself. If you think you can stretch it, you're only infatuated with your own ability to lie and deceive yourself.

>>138746174
Incorrect, baseless, subjective, and really silly.

>>138749348
Because the man who sired me is my father.

Not a man who sits on a throne in a serpent's head audience hall with Holocaust Jesus behind him.

>>138749348
Mark 7:5-9 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
You'd rather nullify God's commandment to keep your own tradition of men, just as the pharisees did. Honestly, what is meant by Matthew 23:9 if not what it plainly says?

>>138740955
By believing that god will forgive them because while their beliefs may not have been entirely correct. They still love and worship god in their own way

>>138744121
The thing people forget is that Jesus went to hell for 3 days. During which time he ministered to those there and saved a great many. There are still people who have not heard the gospel and have no access to it, not many, but still I believe God is fair to those people.

>>138749577

The bible clearly says call no man father. Stop being a heretic against the word of God.

>>138750075
God forgave everybody. That's not the point.

The point is that forgiveness is not salvation, and their church is teaching them that forgiveness is salvation. Hence the over-the-top confession/repentance/penance/extreme unction/purgatory nonsense.

They don't know that they are dead. They are literally the church of Laodeciea. They think they are rich, and in need of nothing. They thing they are finely clothed. They think being in their church confers salvation on them.

They are poor.
They are naked.
They are lost.

>>138750140
>Jesus went to hell for 3 days
source?

>>138749941

Considering Jesus did not speak in english I don't think there is any commandment of God specifically concerning the word father.

>>138749283
>wtf jesus said I can't call daddy father ;^(
proddies are the worst

>>138750140
Rubbish. Jesus want to the Paradise side of Hades, the Bosom of Abraham side, and led those people into heaven.

The only thing he did on the Torment side of Hades was to proclaim his victory.

Nobody after they die changes their situation. They are either resurrected into an eternal body to shame and destruction, or into an eternal body to the glory of God.

>>138740955
That fucking catholic anime girl is always posted by you larping faggots and it just fucking pisses me off. The only reason you fuckers post it is because you weren't raised in a highly religious family, so you pose as one on an anime image board. The fact is, you never had much order in your life and your parents were too soft on you. They never made you do chores, pray, or go to church. And now that being a moralfag is the cool, and anti-pc thing to do, you're posing as a catholic despite being a disgusting NEET anime watcher.

>>138750152
a) I don't call my dad "father"' and
b) You'd have to go back to the original languages to see if that admonition excludes your actual biological father.

In the meantime, you're calling pedophiles "father".

>>138750400
Yes, the world hates Christians. We get it.

>>138750497

hah ok so God banned a word but you can use other word that mean the same thing to get around it.

Look who's the Pharisee now.

>>138750635
No, Jesus was calling all born again Christians to realize that their spiritual father, the Father, to us is Abba. Daddy.

And that He is more important to us than the man who physically gave us birth. The man that physically caused me to exist is my BROTHER.

>>138741752
Catholics are the original Christians you dumdum.
>>138742091
The text reads "But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ" (Matt. 23:8–10). So then why does Paul call himself teacher in 1 Tim 2:7?
2. John 20:23
3. Our God is the God of the living, also Revelation 9:5-8 shows the Saints bring our prayers to God.
4/5 - Wrong, we ask Mary and the other saints to pray on our behalf to Christ. We do not ask them to do stuff for us.
6. Idols are not always bad, see what God had the Israelite make. Also, idol worship = thinking statues are God, which is not taught in the Church.

>>138750758
No, Catholics are pagans.

Catholics are not Christians.

>>138750758
>we ask Mary and the other saints to pray on our behalf to Christ.

This is idolatry and blasphemy.

>>138750758
>why does Paul call himself teacher
>call himself

are you capable of reading comprehension on things other than the bible?

>>138750736

God gives people authority to be called father

"So it was not you who sent me here, but God; and he has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house and ruler over all the land of Egypt" (Gen. 45:8).

BTFO by the bible

>>138750967
And you're another snowflake who cannot tell the difference between pre-New Covenant and post-New Covenant.

Great.

>>138750827
How is asking other people to pray for us idolatry and blasphemy? The New Testament literally tells us to pray for one another in 1 Tim 2:1, James 5:16, Ephesians 6:18, even Christ himself in Matthew 5:44. (I could continue to go on if you like).

>>138751109
It's also necromancy.

>>138751109
You could go on listing people who are ALIVE to pray for you, sure.

Once they are DEAD it's necromancy.

And since your argument is literally the most predictable argument possible, did God know that when people died, they were alive in the afterlife when he FORBID communication with them?

>>138751010

Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18).

uh o, BTFO twice in one day

>>138751133
How? Our God is the God of the Living (Mark 12:27) and the Transfiguration clearly shows the dead aren't sleeping as some protestant sects would have us believe. Further, Revelation 9:5-8 shows us that the Saints prayers are brought to God - how can the dead pray?

>>138741516
>>138741680
>confession in my church is just walking up and the priest saying "The Lord forgives you for your sins" and leaving

The true way to save Catholics is to bring back the traditional practices of the church, save for heretical practices such as usury and indulgences

>>138751212
see >>138751302 where I replied to the same topic

>>138751246
Why do you reach so hard to protect a tradition of man? Jesus very clearly says "call no man Father". Why do you keep trying to contradict that?

>>138751246
And it was accomplished on the cross, which, of course, is foreign to you.

>>138751302
Literally already answered this before you said it.

>>138751304
Nah, doing pagan things better will never save anyone.

>>138751393
And yet, God forbid communication with the people alive in the afterlife.

Which you have attempted to do.

And failed each and every single time.

>>138751393
1. Your faith is in your church to save you.
2. The traditions of your church are not to be found in the bible.
3. The Vatican is the most evil institution on earth.

>>138751601

No man has the power to make another man father, it is an appointment by God, and one that happens several time in the bible.

"In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah . . . and I will clothe him with [a] robe, and will bind [a] girdle on him, and will commit . . . authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah" (Is. 22:20–21).

three, three time BTFO

>>138751861
It's like you never heard of the New Covenant.

Seriously.

There is this thing called the New Covenant.

>>138740955
Understand that God is probably not the douche that 900 different religions paint him as and expect you to be 'lucky enough to pick the right one'.

>>138751861
Are you seriously samefagging yourself?

>>138751614

This was asked to matthew after jesus had already been crucified. Protties getting BTFO left and right here.

>>138752030
Jesus had been crucified.....by Matthew 5.....

Do you ever read the bible?

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>>138740955

catholicism is less gay than protestantism. At least catholics worship a woman

>>138752028

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>138752106
Ah, you're cancer. That explain a lot.

>>138752105
Raping little boys is less gay than being a Christian.

Great addition to the thread.

>>138751736
Except that necromancy is conjuring up the DEAD to predict the future (see: Witch of Endor). Asking the LIVING Saints to pray for us is not necromancy.
I suggest you read Chapter 15 of this work by John of Damascus -
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/33044.htm.
Though you seem like a fundie KJV only so you'll likely say "it's not in the bible so no".

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>>138752082
obviously not

>>138752082

all the gospels were written after jesus death

>>138752219
It's speaking to the dead.
Which you try, and fail, to do.
Nobody in heaven has ever heard you. Nobody. Not God, not Mary, not Saint Pedo, nobody.

>>138752219
AND I SUGGEST YOU READ THE BIBLE

>>138752157

Amazing argument, accusing me os same fagging when we have Id's in the thread.

>>138752307
And by Matthew 5......Jesus had already been crucified......

Hopeless.

>>138752219
>newadvent.org/(((FATHERS)))
weren't we just over this

>>138751833
1. No, my faith is that by being in the Church Jesus Christ established that through His grace and by his Death and Resurrection I may be fortunate enough to gain eternal life with Him.
2. Give some examples, don't just give sweeping statements.
3. It is the largest charitable institution in history, and of current day. If you are going to say 'but some priests raped kids', yes that is an awful thing and they should have been brought to justice but that has no bearing on the Truth the Church teaches.

>>138752408
And effective.

>>138752432
>faith is that by being in the Church
Exactly what I said. Your faith is in your rotten, evil, murderous church.

Mary was not born sinless, died, was a sinner, and had other children besides Jesus.

Your institution covers up for pedophiles; they don't tell you the truth about how many of them there are. Get real. It's institution wide. Gay priests and pedophiles infest the Vatican, as do satan worshiping cardinals.

>>138752424

You make absolutely no sense, why did jesus spend so much time talking about the old testament if none of it mattered after he died.

>>138740955
All members of Christ's one true united faith - the Catholic Church - pray for the soul of OP and all who are not yet united to Christ, the head of the Church. Pay a Rosary for them today if you have not yet said your Holy Rosary.

>>138752587

yeah meanwhile protestant churches openly allow gays, in the religion and to marry. That log in your eye is massive.

>>138752347
Cambridge dictionary: "the act of communicating with the dead in order to discover what is going to happen in the future, or black magic (= magic used for bad purposes)"
Merriam-Webster dictionary: "conjuration (see conjure 2a) of the spirits of the dead for purposes of magically revealing the future or influencing the course of events The novel centers on the practice of necromancy and its influence on the world of the living."
Google: "the supposed practice of communicating with the dead, especially in order to predict the future."
The only definition I can find in the Scripture is Deuteronomy 18:9-22 where it is said a necromancer "inquired of the dead", and I cannot seem to find Scripture giving a different definition that of conjuring up the dead to seek the future, so I would greatly appreciate if you could provide me with said definition.

>>138745947
regular personal attacks might not cut it outside reddit
but I think you can make a really strong argument if you beat him to it and kys first

>>138752669

You make no sense. A story that is written after Jesus' death, but is only up to the part where Jesus is still alive, is talking about things that happened when Jesus was still in his ministry here on earth.

Story. Beginning, middle, end.

>>138752727
No pagans will be in heaven; most Catholics are pagans.

>>138752788
Not so much, no. It's a great way to see who says they are a Christian, and are not.

>>138741387
the deluge myth was lifted off of mesopotamian religion, as were some other old testament things, you brainlet

>>138752797
Praying to the dead is strictly forbidden in the Bible. Deuteronomy 18:11 tells us that anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.” The story of Saul consulting a medium to bring up the spirit of the dead Samuel resulted in his death “because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance” (1 Samuel 28:1-25; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14). Clearly, God has declared that such things are not to be done.

READ THE BIBLE

>>138752727
Listen to this anon buy pray the Lutheran Rosary instead, the one true way of praying.

>>138752956
Nope. All ancient civilizations write about the same event.

>>138753003
The rosary is a holdover from pagan practices 4000 years ago.

>>138752859

Jesus words are meant for all of history, the point is, he would not of said it and it would not be in the bible if it was not meant for us.

It literally says right at the start.

>Until Heaven and earth pass away

have they passed away? nope.

How does one person get BTFO so many times in one thread.

>>138753017
Uniroincially ironically unironically this

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>>138740955
By stopping being retarded faggots.

>>138752219
The dead are awaiting resurrection.

>>138753077
In the imagination of an idiot, obviously.

The Word of God. Eternal.

The Law. Fulfilled at the Cross.

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>>138753017
How did freshwater fish survive the flood?

>>138753249
All water started out fresh.

>>138753062
So is Christmas, but because it is about God/Jesus, it's good. If God were evil, he wouldn't be God.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner. I don't see much in the way of paganism by saying that while holding beads, do you?

>>138753222

It says it won't be fulfilled until Heaven and earth pass away. You are now arguing directly against what it says in scripture.

>>138753222

>idiot

Calling me such has only proved I speak in Gods name

1 Corinthians 1:21, 18
But instead it has pleased God to use our foolish preaching to save those who believe. For the message about the cross is foolishness to those who are to be destroyed, but to us who are to be saved it is the power of God.

>>138753289
Nope. Christmas is pagan as pagan can be. You idiots think shepherds were tending their flocks by night in the dead of winter. Absurd.

It's Saturnalia. Look it up. It wasn't "Christianized" at all. Just whitewashed.

>>138753286
How did freshwater fish evolved to be able to live only in salt water?
How did coral reafs survive changing sea levels?
How did seaweed survive changing sea levels?
How long it took for all snails in the world to crawl into the place where ark stood?

>>138753342
No, I'm arguing with an idiot who doesn't know the difference between the Word of God and the Law.

>>138753571
a) you have not spoken in God's name;
b) you are incorrect about the bible;
c) you have no idea what the New Covenant is; and
d) you cannot tell the difference between the Word of God and the Law.

>>138753743

Those who speak correctly in Gods words don't do it with such arrogance.

1 Corinthians 1:27
But God chose what the world thinks foolish in order to shame the intelligent.

>>138753680
Fish do it today. Saw some youtube about it just last month. Adaptation is robust.

Coral reefs ain't that old. 4600 years, tops.

By being seaweed.

Only 2 were necessary. So, maybe a day out of the century it took.

>>138753930
I don't think the way of the cross is foolishness.

I think you're an idiot.

Big difference.

>>138753844

a) wrong
b) wrong
c) wrong
d) wrong

>>138753678
CHRISTmas. Next you'll say pagans ate fish and bread so we shouldn't celebrate the feeding of the multitude. I'm sure a pagan even touched a palm tree. There goes Palm Sunday.

>>138753215
Revelation 9:5-8 shows otherwise.

>>138753930
Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Fulfilled at the Cross.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Not the Law.

>>138753989

Not an argument, an idiot can be 100% correct about scripture.

>>138753959
So god created coral reefs AFTER the flood? So god was creating new forms of life after the 6 days?
If he does that why was the ark neccesary to begin with?

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The LORD is not the name of the Creator. The LORD is the name/title for the Babylonian sungod Ba’al and is a pagan reference to just about all pagan “gods”… The LORD is a false god:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
"Baal, also rendered Baʿal (Biblical Hebrew בַּעַל), is a Northwest Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord" that is used for various gods who were patrons of cities in the Levant and Asia Minor, cognate to Akkadian Bēlu. A Baalist or Baalite means a worshipper of Baal i.e. The Lord."
>Etymology
Baʿal (bet-ayin-lamedh) is a Semitic word signifying "The Lord, master, owner (male), keeper, husband",

The LORD “Ba’al” was worshipped on Sunday the “day of the invincible sun” or Dias Solis and the sacrifice to the LORD “Ba’al” was the pig of Ishtar (Easter). The prophecies in 1 Kings that we would abandon Yahuah and follow Ba’al have come true in Christianity who calls on The LORD on Sunday and who put their faith in Easter. Just as Jeremiah foretold we would forget the name Yahuah and use the LORD as they did in Babylon.
His name is not “The LORD” or “Adonai” or “Jehovah” or anything else. His name is YHVH (Yahuah) and that is His everlasting memorial by which He is to be called upon.
Our English Bibles use the title The LORD for Yahuah which is a violation of the command not to add to nor subtract from His Word not to mention it is idolatry calling upon the Babylonian god Ba’al. We, humanity, have totally forgotten the name of our Creator which was originally written in His Word over 8,000 times! We replaced every reference to it with The LORD (Ba’al).

>>138754029
Saturnalia, pagan, turned to Christ's Mass, also pagan. And remains pagan.

>>138754079


you literally cant understand the first part of the sentence lol

>>138754147
No, no he cannot.

>>138754166
They grow at a certain rate. Backdate them.

>>138753959
actually you wouldn't even need two, most snails are hermaphrodites and can reproduce without a mate if necessary

>>138740955
Baptize them properly and get them to stop praying to anyone but God.

>>138754249
Ah, I see.

You are incapable of understanding the difference between the Law being fulfilled and the Law not existing.

>>138754241
How is celebrating the birth of Christ even remotely pagan? Also, I don't know why you think you're pointing out something earth-shattering; there's nothing wrong with Christianity infused with pagan traditions from our ancestors.

>>138754585
Because it's done on Saturnalia, when the sun is at its furthest, and it is a pagan festival to make sure the sun comes back.

>>138754585
>there's nothing wrong with Christianity infused with pagan traditions

Many people in hell will wonder how you could say something so foolish.

>>138754456

you literally can understand is say it won't be fulfilled until heaven and earth pass away.

protestantism is a cancer the robs you of spiritual understanding.

You are so blind to God's word you cant even see it right in front of you.

it's sad really, I can only pity you at this point.

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>>138754029
So if faggots name it now CHRISTpride Parade you will be 100% It? It will have Chrsit in it now.

>>138754672
You literally do not understand that the Law was fulfilled at the cross.

Literally.

Which is why the Way of the Cross is foolishness to you, because you are lost.

>>138740955
when catholics and protestants fight, Muslims, Jews, and Atheists win

>>138750152

its clearly the title father like rabbi master , all the names you could have chosen from and you chose the one name forbidden in the bible


>Really makes me think

>>138754738
Catholics, Muslims, Jews and Atheists are all part of the Synagogue of Satan, and they have already lost.

>>138754745
Roman Emperor: Pontifex Maximus
First Pope: Pontifex Maximus.

>>138754723

that is sad you are this blind to Gods law, it is confusing to you.

I will pray you don't end up in hell like martin luther. hopefully you will get out of the fog one day.

>>138754745
This brings up an interesting point.

Who exactly wants Catholics to be saved? They clearly and demonstrably don't give a fig for Jesus, whose body they claim to devour every week, and whose blood they claim to drink. They have murdered over a hundred million human beings in the last thousand years.

Who wants these people to be saved?

>>138754892
I'm not blind to the Law.

I'm dead to the Law.

And no, you don't understand that either.

>>138754585
It should be obvious to any student of The Bible or even any casual reader that “Christmas” was never mentioned by Yahusha, his disciples, or the Apostles or anywhere in The Bible at all. It is commonly knowledge among scholars that the date of December 25th for Christmas was selected in order to correspond with the Roman festival of Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, or "Birthday of Sol Invictus" the Sun. This should come as no surprise as “Christianity” as a whole, all its fundamental doctrines, and every “holiday” is founded in ancient Babylon’s worship of the Sun. The Philocalian calendar of 354 AD gives a festival of "Natalis Invicti" on 25 December curiously not soon after The Council of Nicaea. There is limited evidence that this festival was celebrated before the mid 4th century AD. No evidence it was celebrated by anyone in The Bible.

Sun worship is overwhelmingly obvious in Christian History. In the 5th century, Pope Leo I (the Great) spoke of how the celebration of Christ's birth (Jesus birth not Yahusha’s) coincided with the sun's position increasing in the sky in several sermons on the Feast of the Nativity. Here is an excerpt from his 26th sermon:

But this Nativity which is to be adored in heaven and on earth is suggested to us by no day more than this when, with the early light still shedding its rays on nature, there is borne in upon our senses the brightness of this wondrous mystery.

That sounds word for word what the Babylonian Queen Ishtar said! According to the 1967 New Catholic Encyclopedia, a standard library reference, in an article on Constantine the Great:

"Besides, the Sol Invictus had been adopted by the Christians in a Christian sense, as demonstrated in the Christ as Apollo-Helios in a mausoleum (c. 250) discovered beneath St. Peter's in the Vatican." Indeed "...from the beginning of the 3rd century "Sun of Justice" appears as a title of Christ".

>>138754892
How is the law fulfilled, papist?

>>138754658
Why are you using latin script? Hebrew is the only form of writing that wasn't created by pagans.

>>138754703
That's a dumb argument, and I hope you're joking. I was pointing out the Christ in Christmas to show the purpose of the holiday, celebrating Christ, not hedonism and not pagan.

>>138754658
Judge not lest ye be judged.

>>138754626
You're being intentionally obtuse.

>>138754975
What is obvious to you and I is apparently incomprehensible to the papist.

>>138755038
>>138754975

>>138754974

Yes those without christ are dead, I think you understand a little. I'm not here to argue with you because at this point I can only pity you.

>>138755017
False equivalence much? Pagan festivals to literally the written word?

>>138755110
Yes, you are dead.

Worry about that.

>>138755110
Being dead to the Law and being dead without Jesus are literally the opposite concepts. Literally.

>>138755185

Sad you don't realize the law is the word of god and the Word of God is both the father and jesus. Really I think you need to stop posting and take some time of introspection.

>>138754975
When 100% of Christians who celebrate Christmas do it for Christ's birth, that is what it becomes about. To change it's nature is to change it.

>>138755083
Not a papist.

>>138755372
No, it's the bible, and it's Jesus.

Sad that you pretend you know something about Christianity, Jesus, and the bible, yet know nothing and parrot only what the pedo priests indoctrinated you with.

>>138755499

Hmm I wonder what the bible can say about the church and it's authority.

Romans 13:5
The authority is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

O wow looks like the bible condemns pretty harshly the protestant revolt. Sad for you to be part of it.

>>138755399
It was a further explanation by another Anon of what Saturnalia is.

Constantine, the emperor @ 325 AD, was a sun worshiper and patron of the temple of Apollo, and was until he died. He was never a Christian. The only "christian" he knew was Arius the heretic.

They allowed pagans in the thousands to be baptized without any belief in the risen Christ Jesus, without any declaration of faith, just line up and take a bath and call yourself a Christian.

And they did not change their pagan ways, only the names on the idols changed.

And now 1700 years later we have their descendants thinking their church is a Christian church, founded by Jesus, through Peter, the "first pope".

Absolutely disgraceful.

>>138755634
Literally talking about government, not the church.

Romans 13:1
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities.

>>138755634
>the protestant revolt.

All Catholics involved.

>>138755808

>implying the church does not govern.

Catholic church is the only church that governs, that should be a hint to you which church God has chosen.

>>138755899
Your foul, earthly, disgusting and corrupt church reigns because the god of this world, the devil, is in charge of it.

The word “dragon” comes from the word “Dagon” one of, if not the, oldest pagan gods dating back to Nimrod. Dagon evolved over time and cultures into the dragon:Dagon is where the word dragon came from. When a nation conquered another nation, they would take their gods and incorporate them into their belief system. Simeramus (queen of Babylon) became Isis, who became Ishtar/Easter, who became Venus, who became Aphrodite, and finally Mary. In the same way Nimrod (King of Babylon) became Dagon became the sea serpent, then the dragon, then Neptune, then Posiedon, and then Zeus, and finally Satan. The reason Neptune carried the trident, is the same reason you see Satan with the pitch fork. The trident was the article from the Jewish Tabernacle for turning the sacrifice.
The Taneem (great sea monster Genesis 1:21) was created on the 5th day when God created the fishes and the birds.The association to the goat is also in scripture as well as in satanic worship. The goat fish Capricorn was also a direct association to Satan as well as the Hydra, the Septa (the sea Monster), and the serpent. Nimrod was the first false messiah ruling over the first attempt at a world government. Beginning with Nimrod in Babylon mankind began to worship leviathan (sea serpent) they called Dagon later known as The Dragon:

· Job.41:1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

· Job.41:5 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon (or Taneem in Hebrew) that is in the sea.

· Job.41:7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?

>>138755898

Romans 13:2
Consequently, he who rebels against this authority is rebelling against what God has instituted.

They stopped being catholics when they revolted.

>>138755679
The Catholic Church is the Church, as is the Protestant Church, the Reformed Church, and the Orthodox Church. To say one or the other is not Christian is foolish at best, and heretical at worse. They're all part of Christ's Holy Church.

Mormons, however, are obviously not Christians, though.

>>138755899
Revelation 17
And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.[b] 5 And on her forehead a name was written:

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

Oh, she reigns all right. The Whore of Babylon reigns over Babylon, the City of the Devil.

>>138755138
There is a form of written word that isn't created by pagans. It's called hebrew script. Why are you using pagan one instead?

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>>138756031
This Dragon in the Sea or DAGON the Fish God called leviathan in scripture was worshipped by those in ancient Babylon and associated with Nimrod the first High Priest of Dagon. Worship of Dagon was passed down after YHVH confused the languages and scattered humanity across the globe. It was this religion that was prevalent and continued at the time Rome destroyed Jerusalem. It was this religion of Dagon that permeated the high priestly ranks of paganism and was the foundation of The Christian Church which even today continues to wear the priestly garments of Dagon:
he etymology of the name “Satan” is directly connected to Leviathan. Sa-TAN and Levia-TAN both are derived from the word Taneem (sea creature) which is plural. The singular of Taneem is TAN. Sa-TAN and Levia-TAN are simply later versions of the Taneem god Dagon later known as The Dragon.

It is Dagon the Dragon that is the spiritual source behind the Christian Churches which are based in Rome (any Sunday/Christmas/Easter/Trinity/Jesus church). The Pope and priesthood of the Catholic Church is the high priest and priests of Dagon the Dragon in disguise (not a very good disguise actually):

>>138755973

You just directly contradicted the bible that says God has instituted the authority. >>138756032


You speak only lies and you words are poison, the word of satan drips from every idea you post. Terrible, I would not wish your existance on my worst enemy.

>>138756032

AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT

>>138756049
>>138756133

The Roman Catholic church is the Whore of Babylon.

>>138756148
Prove it wasn't invented by pagans.

>>138756185

Yes, the Whore of Babylon, the Roman Catholic Church, usurped power from God over men, and will be condemned for it, will suffer many plagues over it, and will die because of it.

And you in her.

the "protestants" you babble about were ALL CATHOLICS

>>138756269
Well, it was the language of the nation of Israel, wasn't it? God wouldn't let His people use script created by heathens to write down His word.

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>>138753003
>Lutheran Rosary
mrw

>>138756433
You call that proof?

>>138756203

The church is a government, that what separates it and the heretical faiths.

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>>138756166
The priests of Dagon were known by their “Mitre Hat” which resembled an open mouth of a fish. The same exact hat wore even today by The Pope as well as Cardinals and Bishops. All “priests of Dagon” and the religion that surrounds them, even to this day, is identical to that born in Babylon.

As the pagan religion of Babylon was forced upon humanity by the Roman Emperor Constantine, the pagan aspects of worshipping Dagon, the fish god, was toned down as to not offend other religions as each pagan religion was literally assimilated into The Universal Church of Rome through the process of syncretism. Syncretism is the blending of pagan religion with the worship of YHVH. It is an abomination to YHVH.
The High Priest of The Dragon – The Pope of Rome

DAGON or OANNES - "He would go back into the sea to spend the night, because he was amphibious. He had the head of a man; covered by the head of a fish, and had the legs and feet of a man and the torso of a man, but was covered by the scales and tail of a fish. "

-Berossus; from ancient fragments
(Isaac Preston Cory)

Christianity (or shall I say Satan behind it) has done a very masterful job at concealing its true identity. However, that mask is coming off as knowledge increases at exponential rates . We are no longer bound by the mental chains of the Christian Church who has made it a top priority to keep the masses in total ignorance. We can now actually research its origins and test the historical accuracy of its claims. Many over the centuries have questioned its rituals and practices simply because they cannot be found in the Bible. But now, we can fully unmask this false religion and expose it for what it is… paganism dating back to Babylon.

Why do proddies worship the bible?

>>138754776
whatever you say Ahmed

>>138740955
>>138741387
>>138741960
>>138744047
>>138745293
Ah yes, good goys! Jesus isn't real and your denomination is so much better than that other one. Don't worry about the jews when you can fight your allies. *laughs in hebrew*

>>138756366

You just went from misguided protestant, to full blown false prophet.

>>138756481
The Whore of Babylon, yes.

The most evil institution on earth.

The one you belong to.

>>138756699

The words of a false prophet do not phase me.

>>138756484
The Babylonian Ishtar story is carried out by papists worldwide.

1. Tammuz dies, Semiramis goes into mourning. Ash Wednesday.

2. Semiramis fasts for 40 days. Lent.

3. Semiramis' son returns "from the dead", they celebrate Ishtar. Easter.

It's ripped right out of Babylon, and they cannot see it.

They think it has something do with Jesus' 40 day fast after his baptism.

>>138756685
Citing the bible is Catholic heresy.

Finally you said something true.

>>138756809
The words of the bible should. But don't. Because you've been indoctrinated by the Whore of Babylon.

Revelation 17:18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

Your whore.

>>138756438
Luther changed prayers for it and told his follows to continue the tradition. Anglicans use it, too. Nothing wrong with that as long as you aren't praying for intercession from the Virgin Mary, which might or might not be idolatry depending on your prerogative.

>>138756809
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

>>138756893

The false prophet is one who pretends his words are the words of the bible.

>>138756943
Did you cut off your balls yet?
Matthew 19:12
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

>>138757027
Nobody cares what excommunicated Catholic Friar Martin Luther says, does, or thinks.

>>138757061
Literally citing the bible, that you don't read, and cannot understand.

>>138757073
>He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

I ain't receiving that.

>>138740955
you don't, only God does, if He so wills it.

>>138757140
There are none so lost as those who falsely think they are saved.

>>138757075
I honestly don't know what's wrong with you, but if you consider the Catholic Church the whore of Babylon, you should thank Martin Luther for saving your soul.

>>138742091
The fact Mary is called "Co-Redemptrix" (co-redeemer) raised major red flags for me. I now belong to a comfy baptist church.

>>138757131
Why? Don't you love God? It will get you closer to Him.
You can say no but i bet God will be awfully disapointed in your lack of faith in Him.

>>138757101

Nice try Mr. snake

right here you made a prophecy about me and the catholic church >>138756366.

You are not a prophet hence you are a false prophet. You try to hide you evil between bible verses like satan.

>>138757197
I thank no Catholic for anything, actually. Except maybe as cautionary tales.

There were Christians from 32 AD to the present who never bent the knee to Rome, and were not murdered by Rome.

They are my people, not the disgusting, vile, antisemetic catholic friar Martin Luther. Cited by Hitler 6 times in Mein Kampf.

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>>138756484
The Dagon priests in Babylon wore hats that represented the open mouth of the fish, as if it were placed upon their heads - and the fish's body was seen extending from that head and mouth, down the priest's back to form a “robe”. These exact priestly garments adorn the ranks of the Christian Clergy.

"The two-horned mitre, which the Pope wears, when he sits on the high altar at Rome and receives the adoration of the Cardinals, is the very mitre worn by the priests of Dagon, the fish-god of the Philistines and Babylonians."

- The Two Babylons ; Alexander Hislop; p. 215

Not only does the Pope wear this "Mitre" hat, but so do the Cardinals on certain occasions when they are dressed in their royal regalia… a far cry from the suffering servant Yahusha the Messiah and what he taught. These “priests” of Dagon today known as The Pope, Cardinals, and Bishops have elevated their station literally to Royalty among men. There is nothing in The Word of YHVH or the historical record indicating that The Messiah Yahusha ever wore such a hat or created such a priestly High Class of royalty.
"...there are strong evidences that Dagon was Nimrod.... All scholars agree that the name and worship of Dagon were imported from Babylonia."

"The most prominent form of worship in Babylon was dedicated to Dagon, later known as Ichthys, or the fish. In Chaldean times, the head of the church was the representative of Dagon, he was considered to be infallible, and was addressed as ‘Your Holiness’. Nations subdued by Babylon had to kiss the ring and slipper of the Babylonian god-king. The same powers and the same titles are claimed to this day by the Pope. Moreover, the vestments of paganism, the fish mitre and robes of the priests of Dagon are worn by the Catholic bishops, cardinals and popes.

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This is a shill thread. Shills trying to sow discord. Probably most of the people commenting here are shills samefagging.

>implying false dichotomy between Catholics and Protestants

>implying 999/1000 Christian sects going to be condemned to suffer eternally for not being smart enough to pick the "right" religion

>person whose religion directly based on the selection, translation, and interpretations of Biblical writings by the Roman Catholic Church acting like they are on some high horse above Roman Catholic Church

>>138757318
And I posted it here. >>138757037

There's more, if you have the stomach for it.

Revelation 18
After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”

>>138757336
>worships the Synagogue of Satan
Oh, I see. Your mask slipped a little too much there, (((my fellow white))).

>>138757484
I condemend the Synagogue of Satan above. >>138754776

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>>138757383
>christians weren't happily killing each other for religion before /pol/
Also daily reminder that templars were excomunicated and burned at the stake as heretics and worshippers of Baphomet.

>>138757483

nice bible quote. It doesn't erase your past evil though.

>>138757383
99% of Catholics are going to hell.

The thread was about how to save them.

They were not interested in salvation.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795

>>138757625
My past evil.....is a drop of water in the universe that is the evil of Mystery Babylon, the Romanism that you praise to high hell.

>>138757637


>99% of Catholics are going to hell.


more prophecies from the false prophets

>>138757697
You are judged on your own, not compared to others. ;)

>>138757785
You're right. It might by 98.5%. I should give a range.

And of course since I did not say "thus saith the Lord", nobody in the Christian world would think that was a prophecy.

>>138757807
I'm not going to be judged at all.

We don't need saving, unlike you, you fucking sinner.

>>138757884
/thread

Perfect conclusion. Enjoy hellfire.

>>138757851

only God can condemn to hell, you are literally trying to tell us what a future act of God is.

Hence you are a false prophet.

>>138757573
Then why call Luther antisemitic? At least your opinions on Muslims, Jews, the Catholic Church, and Christmas are consistent. Makes your arguments carry a lot more weight in my opinion, even if we disagree.

>>138757962
Keep trying to stretch what a prophecy is.

Keep ignoring the bible.

Keep being inside the Whore of Babylon.

And you will know that what I told you was true.

>>138758071
He wrote "On the Jews And Their Lies" and was quoted by Hitler a half dozen times.

Catholicism in general is virulently anti-semetic.

Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant) has literally created a new messiah and another gospel based totally on lies that are founded in The Mystery Religion of Babylon. Christianity has given us a lie in The Trinity/Jesus/Sunday/Christmas/Easter/Lawlessness. A lie totally contrary to The Truth and The Way found in scripture… YHVH/Yahusha/Sabbath/Feasts/Torah.

The Bible defines a Sign, a Seal, and Salvation by sacrifice:

· The Sign is The Sabbath

· The Seal is the knowledge that YHVH is ONE God, the single greatest commandment known as The Shema

· The sacrifice for salvation is through The Passover Lamb of God named Yahusha

Christianity robs us of the sign, the seal, and the deliverance of YHVH and our salvation teaching us a lie:

· The Sign is Sungod Day

· The Seal is the believe in The Babylonian Trinity

· The sacrifice for salvation is through the Easter Pig of Ishtar named Jesus

This “lie” is founded in “the man of lawlessness” who is not an actual man but defined in scripture as an image of a man in which The Law has been abolished. He is “the son of destruction or perdition” (destroying all those who put their faith in him).

An image of a man that will be elevated as God (in our hearts and minds which are the Altar and Temple of YHVH) above the invisible YHVH the one and only God.

>>138740955
>implying catholics are condemned to eternal hell

>>138758125

noun, plural prophecies.
1.
the foretelling or prediction of what is to come.

where exactly is the stretch???????

>>138758242
You were doing great up till this post.

>>138748657
>half before Protestantism was even a thing
C'mon now neger.

>>138758285
Yes, that's what your dictionary says.

In the Christian world, a prophet speaks what God told him to speak.

>>138757866
That sounds like a heresy to me. Are you saing that God won't judge you?

>>138758342

yeah don't be surprised when you anti-catholic nutters cant agree on a single thing. You are lone wolves practicing your snowflake religion alone.

>>138758477
For rewards at the bema seat, sure.

Before the great white throne?

Nope.

>>138758242
Daniel 7
"He (the false messiah or beast) will speak against the Most High (YHVH) and oppress his saints and try to change the set times (ordained feasts/Sabbaths) and The Laws (of YHVH)."

This false messiah will not be an actual man, but will rather be an “image of the true Messiah” based on lies and falsehoods; In other words a “false Messiah”. The False Messiah or "Anti-Christ" is not a true human historical figure. It is, in fact, Satan; behind an image (a fabricated lie) of a man that never actually existed. It is a false image and a false name created to deceive the masses. That "image" was given the name IHS - Jesus H. Christ “ΙΗΣΟUΣ” as I will prove in this book. I also prove this in greater detail in my book Abstract.

This image of a false messiah is based on the life of the true Messiah Yahusha or at least that is what we are lead to believe, but given a pagan name, a pagan sacrifice, a pagan day of worship, and most of all… in this name IHS (Jesus monogram in Latin) the Laws and Ordained Times of YHVH were abolished. Looking back over the past 6,000 years there is only ONE name in whom the Law was abolished… Jesus H. Christ aka Hesus Horus Krishna!

>>138758523
He's cutting and pasting.

>>138757637
>>138757383
>>person whose religion directly based on the selection, translation, and interpretations of Biblical writings by the Roman Catholic Church acting like they are on some high horse above Roman Catholic Church

>>138758391

only you think that because you mind is clouded by satan.

very sad, I have to go i will pray you are delivered from satan though

>>138758580
Who Is Paul Sides, aka Rav Sha’ul?
Last year I started following the teachings of Paul Sides, who writes as Rav Sha’ul on SabbathCovenant.com, and I began researching what he was saying.

I found it interesting because the Spirit had pulled me out of ‘christianity’ and the deceptions that are taught in Protestant churches; and I was searching for truth.

I had learned the personal, covenant names of the Father and Son, Yahuah and Yahusha. And I had learned to observe Elohim’s seven Holy Feast Days, instead of Easter and Christmas.

So what Paul Sides teaches about those topics was of great interest to me. He teaches a lot about Scripture pointing to The Heavenly Scroll.

But then I read one of his articles that proclaims that Messiah was 100% human, that He sinned, and that He did not exist before He was born.

Here is a summary of what Paul Sides teaches about Messiah, and the supposed Yahushaic Covenant:

Paul Sides teaches that Yahusha was 100% man, because Mary was impregnated by Joseph’s sperm. He teaches that Yahusha sinned and needed to be baptized by John for remission of sins. He teaches that just like Elohim made covenants with men like Abraham and Moses, Yahuah made a covenant with the man Yahusha. He teaches that after Messiah became perfected and lived a sinless life as a priest, and died to Himself on the cross, that He was then made divine.

False teacher.

>>138758785
It's what a prophet is, in the bible.

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.

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And this is why Cuckstianity fails, you cant even be friends with each other.

>>138759048
>1054
>Sack of Constantinople
Well why do you think that is?

>>138759048
Christianity does not fail because Jesus did not fail.

Christians love other Christians.

You thinking that the people who slaughter Christians are Christians is just improbable.

>>138759650
>You thinking that the people who slaughter Christians are Christians is just improbable.
Where did I say that?

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>>138754051
>Revelation 9:5-8
Uhm, you do know that the word "saints" is referring to saved/born-again Christians, right? Not the Catholic invention of """""saints""""""?

Be serious in your answer.