Fishing & Tackle Thread

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>>910146
Then they should work.

I have a gut full of deer sausage, egg, and potato tacos. It's stoped drizzling and it's warming up.

Not sure if I want to hunt or fish today.

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I'll be fishing with circle hooks next year for catfish. I have 100s of feet of spring tempered SS wire and have been trying to come up with tons of uses for it.

One of the main problems with circle hooks is having the bait foul the hook by flipping around from the bottom and ending up closing the gap between the hook point and the shaft. Thus, I figured I could prevent that by making a bait keeping wire for the hook. This is what it looks like on a kahle hook I'm testing it out with.

The idea is that the wire will stab into the cut bait, that hangs below the bottom of the hook locking it into place, without causing problems with hooking the fish.

>>910153
Looks neat if your only option is cut bait and you can't just make it smaller for some reason. Personally I use live bait for catfish.

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u mad white boi?

>>910161
This is for channel cats, >>910161
not blue or flatheads. The latter most of which require live bait.

>>910168
Channel cats also eat live bait hell they eat just about anything they can find.

>>910172
Ehh he paid for it

>>910173
Your dog will pay for it with his virginity if you let him stay at your house.

>>910185
he's paying for that too.

>>910172
I'm gonna stop for a second and say I agree, but I think furries need help desu

>>910189
What's wrong with furries? Porn is pretty hot

>>910153
Hook your bait diagonally, instead of straight through. It rod foul it's self any more
>>910172
I bought that reel. But I have him money. But he did give me power pro and a mepps
>>910185
No it won't


Mods pls

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>>910192
Found the closet fur gag
At least I admit my sins

>talk about fishing

>>910195
>>910194
>animal fucker calling for the mods
Mods pls ban Skid. I bet he's stuck his cock inside a largemouth bass mouth before.

>>910195
How can he be a closet furfag if he says the porn is hot?

>>910169
We've been through this before. Channel cats go by scent more than anything else. Sure,you can catch them on live bait and even lures,but if you want 30-50 catfish in a single night you need to chum, use 8 to 12-hour dead cut bait fish, and move to a new spot if you are not catching them within 15-20mins of your first cast.

>>910194
>Hook your bait diagonally, instead of straight through. It rod foul it's self any more

that method still fouls enough to be a problem.

>>910211
Thats fine if thats what you want. I'd rather increase my chance for blues, flathead and gar.

>>910217
Those need to exist in the waters I'll be fishing in order to catch them. You may as well switch to talking about catching sharks for all it matters where I live..

>>910218
Well shit anon that sucks. Like I said if you want to use cut bait then by all means use cut bait.

>>910172
again... you sound jealous and are obviously infatuated with our favorite skidmark.

Here's you're (You) since I told your bait. How about trying fishing instead of tossing this shit bait here. You might have something to add to the thread.

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>>910225
Indeed, the locations with larger cats are so polluted you can't eat any species of fish, not even sunfish.

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Thanks for that mepps anon Joe. Just got a lil trout on it. First fish in weeks, too.

>>910245
Except you talk about him every single thread, kys

>>910252
>it's totally just one guy I swear!

>>910252
Stop being baited, report, and hide post.

>>910257
Why on earth is skid being called out on his furryness bait

>>910241
Never fails

>>910252
The way he keeps harping on it and the way he types I'm pretty sure it's the same anon that got spooked by a deer at night.

Would this be an ok reel in the 400 size for offshore pelagic fish in the 10-30 lb range?

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=16323326&ppp=144&cp=4406646.70516396.4414792&categoryId=70520776

>>910241
Noice, I was wondering if those little BRITE's would be good because I've honestly never seen one in stores. Glad the trout like em

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>tfw still making lures and everything outside has 1/2 inch of ice over it

I had to break the ice just to test out the new stuff's action.

>>910271
>light salt water use
Make sure you clean it.

I've never really looked at any low-pro memecasters like that in larger sizes. They always seem to be bass sizes or else people just do conventional reels.

If you get it, let me know how you like it.

>>910289
How are those Colorado blades on inlines?

>>910291
I did want a conventional reel at first but not many of them come in a left handed retrieval like I wanted.

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>>910294
They are not all that good, but they work if you give the lure a slight jerk to get them started. They stall pretty easily. They are also super cheap. Those lures in >>910289 cost about $0.36 each. I have 2 sizes of willow, 1 Colorado size, and 1 size of French. Willow simple don't work for inlines, they stall and that's it. Minnow blades like what rooster tails use work fine though.

>>910300
They don't come like that for a reason. You use your left hand to move the line left to right on the spool to keep it even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ItvT3rBH4

Just buy a conventional. You're going to be so disappointed when that freshwater reel starts to go to shit after a few trips. Buy a Penn Jigmaster for the fish you're targeting.

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>>910153
i like the gami big river hooks.

>>910172
>ayyy lmao
>doesnt fish

>>910271
lexa 400 is a great reel. pulled plenty of smaller tuna and yellowtail with it. I use one on my surface iron rod.

you might want to look at the the newer 400 sized komodo as well, i just ordered one. tons of drag like the lexa & easy casting. Like any reel you will need to rinse it after use and service it occasionally.

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>>910315
you dont know what youre talking about. I grew up using 500's and 501's to toss iron and there is no comparison. a 500 has what 9-12lbs and thats with the carbontex drag upgrade, that lexa has easily twice the drag as a 500 and can cast twice as far.
its considered a inshore not freshwater reel. ive caught tons of yft and yt with this reel.

>yfw: the 300 and the 400 work great as a big swimbait reel too.

>>910320
I'm getting some of these,

http://www.gamakatsu.com/fishing-hooks.php?pid=1118

4x strength, 5/0 since I'm going for smaller cats.

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Fished at a local creek again, snowing this time and was limited to spots without ice :(

I wonder where all the lil fishies went, used to just watch them on hikes last summer

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>>910331
yeah those work great, use the same for rockfish. the 8/0 and 9.0 big rivers i use for sharks. the smaller ones are good for most dead bait applications. i llke the style for snelling and havent bent one out yet. bent some owners out on sturgeon and changed up after that. good luck

>>910348
Good to know, thanks. I'd probably use 6x for sharks.

>tfw landlocked

>>910145
I really need to start targeting crappie now that the bass have stopped biting

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>>910360
Man I need to start fishin crappie too if I can meet her
>tfw no crappie in South Florida
Those jaguar cichlids are real similar except the fight a bit harder and have those teeth.

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>>910363
Pic related is the jaguar. They're real close to the crappie body shape but look a lil different the way they bend in these pics.

Ok, how do I catch those monster catfish I see all the time?
>live off of where small canal meets river
>south west Florida
I usually use hotdogs and just let it set on the bottom. Occasionally I'll use a bobber to keep it off the bottom.

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>>910363
>>910365
At least you can fish. The ice here is too thin to walk on and ice fish. So, I sit here and make lures, that may or may not work...

...need barrel swivels.

I need summer house.

>>910365
What are you using to catch those?

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>>910370
Anything you would catch crappie or smaller bass on. Last weekend when we were at that pond we were getting em on underspins with Gulp minnows and PowerBait curly tail grubs.

>>910367
Use live fish, keep them perky by keeping them in a bag of their own water you can submerge into the target water so they acclimatize to the new temps. Replace about 1/3 of their water with target water every 15 mins or so for about an hour. Basic aquarium stuff really. Hook them to keep them alive, google techniques.

Most of the largest cat species are active live food predators.

>>910363
Can I get the OP pic without the words?
Thanks

There's great crappie fishing around me but I've never gotten into it I've just stuck with bass

>>910365
I don't think anyone would confuse that with a crappie 2bh

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>>910377
4u

And I think it's just the angle and they look a bit different in the pic but between the size, body shape, and larger mouth they honestly do look like crappie a bit.

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>>910377
>>910386
And here's another one. This pic looks more like a crappie.

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>tfw no average looking wife that is a nurse or teacher, financially responsible, and enjoys fishing in her spare time rather than watching fake reality shows or gossiping on social media

>>910402
>rather than watching fake reality shows or gossiping on social media

If I were going to ask for the impossible I'd go all out.

>>910320
>7:1 gear ratio
>freshwater memecaster made for light saltwater use
>he never said he was using it for lures
>plans to use it offshore where it's more likely to get sprayed
>over 200 doll hairs

Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it's the best choice. He's better off with a small daiwa saltist or penn fathom conventional. Not only are they made to withstand saltwater but they also have clickers so you can use them for live or dead bait.

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>>910406
ha my sides..."offshore" or inshore 10-30 lb tuna all fight the same. He could land schoolie tuna on the 300 lexa. what part of machined aluminum, carbontex drag washers, ceramic bearings and pinions sound freshwater?
You might want to check online as to what people are using these reels for, you'd be obviously amazed. btw salt spray washes off and a little corrosion x goes a long way. The saltist and the fathom are good reels i own both of them but the lexa 400 is much more versatile, stronger and is available in a few ratios not only hs. you might want to read up a little more.

>24# drag pressure
>freshwater memecaster
>"penns have a clicker"

KEK!
where do you live that you catch a lot of tuna?

>>910271
also, I dont know why i didn't put it in the other post but..there are others depending on your budget.

Toro beast is a damn nice if your into tall and narrow jig reels

tranx
revo nacl
the entire komodo series is fire (boxier shape)
*penn fathom (budget)
(not baitcast but is a good 20# reel..better than a 500)
there is a number of avet reels also to choose from if you want to go the conventional route.

truly depends on how much bling you want to sling..and what you are tossing. pic for comparison. 300,400,magnum,old 501,LD20

>>910415
>m-muh tuna!
He said nothing about tuna. 7:1 is stupid fast and it's not a good idea to baitfish in free spool with out a clicker. Go crash your boat into a rock and drown you chode.

Do any of yall have any experience with Ugly Stick elites? Was looking at the one piece 7' mhv rod

>>910433
I have the 5ft6 light one. It's a lot nicer than the standard or gx2 ones, a lot nicer

>>910415
The Saltist, Squall and Fathom conventionals are better general purpose reels. I'd only get that baitcaster if I was working lures only. Also, no need to be obnoxious towards other people here.

>>910430
Why would a fast ratio be bad for fast fish?

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>tfw looking for something and finding a bag of yardsale stuff I bought for a dollar

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>>910368
I'm liking this 0.045" wire. I'm learning some simple logical ways to work it that are so much easier than what I was normally doing. I tried an umbrella rig once, but I think I like these better.

>>910437
not him but
>powerful and slower fish, low gear ratio
>weaker and faster fish, high gear ratio
Good luck wrestling in a small 20 pound amberjack with a 7:1 reel

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>>910430
sometimes this place is like arguing with children. I mention tuna because comparatively pound for pound they are the hardest pulling pelagic out there. where did this bait fishing shit come from? op didnt mention anything about bait?

>waaahh reeee reeeee
>7:1 is stupid fast
>then buy the 5:1 model
>derp

>>910442
There needs to be a reel where you can change the gear ratio on the fly. Probably already exists.

>>910438
Dank.

That little yellow one with black spots on the bottom, does that say Abu on the blade? I think I have the same one.

>>910430
7.1 isn't that fast for a memecaster. I'm starting to prefer faster reels anyway because like I said before it seems easier to go slow with a faster reel than it is to go fast with a slow one. Most baitcasters are 6.4:1 anyway plus the spools are smaller than a 3000+ size spinning reel which means comparing the ratios is retarded.

And anyway when you are fighting heavier fish, you normally do the work with the rod and then crank the line in as you are lowering the rod tip back down.

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>>910446
That would be pretty cool. Only issue is weight and size. Also it means more things to break.

Depending how much torque is actually applied to it, I bet you could engineer some tiny CVT system using pic related as a principle so you have infinite adjustments between like 3:1 and 10:1.

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>>910445
It all makes sense now. You must live in california right? The only obnoxious child screaming "KEK!" and "ha my sides" is you.

The original guy seemed like a new saltwater angler so he probably isn't going to have a ton of combos for more specialized fishing like slinging jigs. A small conventional reel is far more versatile than a high speed baitcaster.

>>910455
>>910446
There are tons of 2 speed conventional reels.

http://www.pennfishing.com/penn-reels-conventional-reels-penn-fathom/penn-fathom-lever-drag-2-speed/1347896.html#start=4

>>910459
Hnng that looks nice. I love that flat black and gold color scheme.

>>910460
>>910460
I have the star drag fathom I got for 20% off at the northlake gander mountain. I still haven't used it yet but I hear people are pulling in kingfish at the pier so I'll see if I can get some use out of it next weekend

>>910442
But why? Wouldn't you mostly use the rod to fight the fish? I've never fished salt so I'm just genuinely curious.

>>910433
I got the 6'6" medium casting rod

Its not bad but its not the greatest

>>910470
You do but it's going to be hard to turn something that fast under pressure

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/high-speed-reels-explained#page-2

pretty good read tbqfh

>>910451
>does that say Abu on the blade?

"Taiwan" nothing else.

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>>910437
It isnt bad at all. people catch wahoo (one of the fastest fish swimming) on high gear ratio reels. a fast fish can swim towards you in seconds and it will feel slack like you lost the fish, tuna & wahoo do this quite often, having a faster ratio to gain line on them when this happens is benificial. our modern reels have debunked the old myth. there is definitely a place for higher speed reels offshore.

A lower ratio reel is good for deeper dwelling fish bottomfishing or for fish that will drag you deep into the reefs because you can crank on them. a higher geared reel is more work on a deep fish. for example for yoyo iron I use a 2 speed reel. I drop and reel up with the higher ratio because focusing on speed is the key. when I hook up I switch to low gear and crank on the fish.

for speed jigging I use a higher speed reel, amberjacks are bruisers as well as pargo and big snappers but they all get caught on higher ratio reels and skinny jigging rods. I use a shimano ocea jigger and a couple maxel reels. they have narrow spools with high line uptake. not necessarily a super high ratio. this is relative to spool size. reel ratios change when line is further out. because the space on the spool is diminished. with a narrow spooled reel you can maintain the gear ratio with very little difference and with oversized drags and drag pressures exceeding 30# it makes shit a lot easier cranking them up.

ratios depends on depth.

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>>910145
Went to walmart again. I hate that fucking place but I got these for a dollar. Whats the word on this brand? Never heard of it before. They also had a bunch of the zoom salt plus for 1.50 which have always worked well for me with lmb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VylGF8EonVY

>it's a 1rod1reel flirts with girls episode

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>>910477
Ok. Probabably a copy of pic related

>>910479
Idk about that brand but looks like some regular baby brush hogs in junebug so I'm sure they will work.

>>910433
Why do people keep buying Ugly Stiks?

>>910482
Because you can beat the shit out of ugly stiks.

>>910470
no bro, it isnt the rod its the reel mainly.
you tube slow jigging, injinku fishing. I have a few of these rods and they are a blast. big fish little fish doesnt make a difference, the reels a winches now and the rod is your lever.
For speed jigging i use a much stiffer stick because when the fish hits the jig its hauling ass. its a reaction bite and they slam lures and try to turn their heads..hope that helps and isnt so "obnoxious"...kek

>>910483
Are you 9 years old?

There are just so many other options in the same price range with way better action. And I'm not exactly gentle with my stuff but I have never had an issue breaking stuff like that unless I do something incredibly stupid.

>>910486
>are you 9 years old?

You asked why people keep buying ugly stiks. I never said I buy them.

>>910482
>Ok. Probabably a copy of pic related

Yeah, there's a lot of knock-offs in there, but I'll tear them apart and remake them.

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>>910488
I just hate that even for people trying to get into casting lures and buying their first $100 combo, they still keep going for the Ugly Stiks. I made that mistake too back in the day but I'm so happy I opened my eyes and realized what the word "Action" meant.

>>910490
theyre good for kids and beginners. I recently pulled my old ones out, theyre fucking heavy with soft ass tips. no wonder they work so well for bait fishing. they have their place.

>>910473
>>910478
>>910485
Thanks. I probably never noticed a difference since I pretty much only catch bass. I usually only use the reel to take up slack, unless it's s small one I can horse in.

>>910482
I inshore fish (drop shot or Carolina rig and popping cork mostly) on my spinfisher 4500LLs, action isn't as necessary as durability when fighting a 40+ inch bull red, also I've never had an ugly stick break on me.

Lew's Laser MG or American Hero for baitcast combo under $100?

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>>910499
Do you have issues with other rods breaking on you? Have you tried other rods that actually have some action?

>>910492
Yeah I know but there are still so many people buying them to bass fish and go after panfish with lures and it is such a terrible decision.

Still not bad if you want to toss on 1oz and some stink bait for catfish but they are pretty awful for most lures. I have one on that Abu Silver Max combo but it feels like they used a different design for the casting reel compared to a similar spinning reel. The backbone is like a MH spinning rod so it weighs a bunch and it seems like it doesn't taper quite as thin until you get to the very tip so doesn't flex as bad as most of their spinning rods. But it's still not worth using for any finesse presentations. Works best ripping big spinnerbaits or chatterbaits through the water.

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>>910492
Nowadays, Shakespeare has a few other series of rod that are comparable price to an ugly stik but lighter weight with better sensitivity, and are nicer looking in my opinion. I have a shakespeare "agility" medium spinning rod and a shakespeare "micro series" light spinning rod. Both of them are pretty sweet. I still have a 8'6" ugly stik casting rod that I use for shark and ray fishing, it's perfect for that.

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I'm making some teeny vertical jigs out of some lead I have lying around. I'm going to put little size 10 or 12 assist hooks on them and get some little pier dinks someday.

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>>910502
I actually went from an Ugly Stik to a Micro Series or whatever I had laying around on that Sienna 500 combo because the UL Ugly Stik was just so wobbly and shitty.

>>910500
You can get down on the Mach 1 with the $20 off code and free shipping at Dick's for $115 shipped and taxed...

Either way if you order from there you will get the free shipping and you can use the $20 off code if you spend $100.

I still need to use that Lew's more. It was so rainy and windy this weekend that I only got a couple good casts. I really gotta let some 1/2oz baits rip across the lake with the thing. Seems nice so far and I'm diggin the 6'10" rod since that is the longest bass rod I have.

>>910505
Are they decent rods?

Also would the new Mr Striper combo be good for catfish?

>>910501
Not very often, the last one was a Penn slammer rod I had for a while and a shark ran right under the boat and it snapped earlier this year. Granted it was older, but I think it's just more of a confidence thing really. I have a Penn allegiance ii that I love and it's action is pretty decent.

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>>910495
I have friends that will argue that its a consideration when choosing a reel for big swimbaits. along with low gear ratios.
so it exists in all circles.

>>910506
The rod seems decent. Has some nice smaller guides, lots of guides which you don't get on cheap rods, handles and real seat feel good. No complaints but I still need to play with it more.

And idk shit about that striper combo. Whatever you want for that. Catfish combos don't exactly need to be super sensitive or great, just make sure they are strong enough for whatever you haul in.

>>910506
Lol you don't need a $100 combo for catfish. You're just throwing bait out on a circle hook. Don't even need to feel for bites or set the hook or anything. Just let them run and take it. I've caught a 37lb blue cat on a $40 Ugly Stik combo and 20lb braid.

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>>910506
And if you see an Abu combo you like, I wouldn't hesitate on that. They normally give you decent rods with their setups too. The rod that came with my $79 Cardinal SX spinning combo was actually pretty nice until I broke it being a dumbass.

I wish Shimano sold some of their cheaper reels as combos. It's so much nicer buying combos when you are only trying to spend ~$100 since you tend to save about $20 vs buying the rod and reel separate.

Also if you have a Bass Pro nearby (or even online) check out their stuff. I know they have those Bionic setups on sale a lot and then I have heard good things about their tourney special or whatever combos.

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>>910504

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>>910518
>>910506
That Bionic combo is actually on sale right now. Those rods alone normally run $80 and I almost bought one when I got that Abu Vendetta rod. Bass Pro's store brand memecasters are actually supposed to be really nice from everything people say. They aren't just generic cheaper store brand stuff like you would expect, they are quite a respected brand.

I think Bass Pro still has free shipping right now too.

http://m.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Bionic-Plus/Bionic-Blade-Rod-and-Reel-Baitcast-PreMount-Combo/product/2338247/

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>>910516
>you don't need..
>said no fisherman ever

dude.. its fishing. he'd probably be fine with a 40oz, a rock and some twine for cats but unless you're his wife or gf..let the guy spend his money.

>>910520
>vanilla cream soda
You disgusting mother fucker

>>910520
Are you drinking that Stubborn Soda? We just started selling that. It isn't bad. Company is based near here too, actually Riviera Beach so right by our manufacturing plant.

>>910521
>lure weight
>3/8-1 1/2 oz

I feel like that's a pretty bendy rod or they're being very generous with their lure weights.

I would buy one tho, but I don't really want another MH rod right now.

>>910525
If it's that Stubborn stuff, it's actually "Agave Vanilla Cream Soda" or some bullshit. It is tasty though, not overly sweet and has a lil bite. They also have a black cherry and some other one (maybe root beer?)

>>910525
>not liking cream soda
What's wrong with you mang?

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>>910528
Idk, baitcaster ratings are a little odd too.

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>>910518
>I broke it being a dumbass.
bruh.. you should of got you a uglystik.

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>>910520
made these today.

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>>910532
Yeah but I enjoyed the action for the 3yrs I had it before I broke it doing something stupid.

>>910531
>>910528
And then there's pic related. The top one is a MH spinning rod that says 1/4oz to 5/8oz, but that rod actually feels best casting 3/4oz-1oz weights. And the middle one, the Johnny Morris memecaster rod, that says MH but feels great with 1/4oz lures.

>>910533
Wut is that one on the right? Some drop-shot type thing? It would be cool to put a little blade on the bottom and it would be something in the middle of an underspin and spinnerbait.

>>910532
I think I need to put this on the imgur too

looking for a dropshot / shakyhead / light jigs rod under 1/4oz

looking for ideas, something around 100 bux

Why are Ugly Stik rods rated fast action but feel like slow action rods? They have no sensitivity.

>>910540
The action of the rod has nothing to do with it's sensitivity.

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>>910540
Because they are still made out of fiberglass or whatever the hell they use so you can bend the tip down to the handle while everybody else uses different graphite composites that have real action.

I think Ugly Stiks get their """action""" from changing the taper. Like that 6'6" baitcasting rod is medium weight but doesn't taper so thin on the top few feet of the rod so it feels like it can cast 1oz baits better than my 7' MH spinning Ugly Stik. But that lack of taper with a thick ass spine for a M rod leads to a rod that weighs like twice as much as a similar graphite rod.

>>910539
Shit, go play with them. I would get something that is a bit lighter weight but with a nice fast tip. Sometimes that is easier said than done so best bet is to go to a big retailer and mess around with stuff.

>>910542
Kinda does. But what they print on the rod doesn't always correlate with what you feel when fishing it. Just like what I was saying here >>910535

Pretty soon I'm getting a longer 7' 10" (or so) rod for cranking and the reel I want for it is good for saltwater. If I also wanted to use it for sea trout/redfish would I be better with a MH or a medium?

>>910545
They are made out of fiberglass/graphite composite. The GX2 which most people buy isn't that great but the Elite series is $10 more and has 35% more graphite.

But still that's a $50 rod. For a little more you could get a Blackout rod which feels like a $200 rod.

>>910548
Idk shit about the saltwater fishing, but you know how much it varies between rod makes and models.

You could get a 7'10" M with "Extra Fast" action and a 7'10" MH with "Medium" action and the tip will feel about the same casting the same 1/2oz lure because they both taper to about the same width halfway up the rod all the way to the tip. But then when you are trying to haul a 10lb fish up over the sea wall or bridge, you are going to notice the difference in backbone and the whole M rod will bend more than the MH.

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Hook tied on. I used 40lb braid, should be a while until it needs replacing.

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>>910556
Bass fags spend $100 on rods and scared of a little bend.

How do you sleep at night?

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>>910552
Exactly. And for the same price you could get a Berkley Lighting Rod that feels like an actual bass rod. Or for $10-$20 more than a GX2, you could get a Fenwick Eagle or Shimano Sellus that feels like an actual bass rod and comes in a wide selection of weights, sizes, and actions that actually mean something unlike the Ugly Stiks.

Speaking of the Fenwick Eagle, I would be down to get another one of those. That was one of the rods that came highly reccommended in that price range once you decide you deserve better than an Ugly Stik but still don't want to drop more than $150 on a combo. I have a 6'6" M spinning rod with Med-Fast action. It is super sensitive and great for 1/6-1/3oz baits. 1/4oz spinnerbaits, inlines, and jerkbaits feel perfect on that thing but the action is a little slow for Texas rigs and other finesse stuff on the bottom or twitching topwater. I would like to try one of those in either a M with Ex Fast action or MH with Fast action and maybe run it on a memecaster or get another ~3000 size spinning setup going because I bet with that sensitivity and a faster action it would be so nice for throwing 1/4oz shakey heads or Texas rigs.

>>910556
Yeah I just wanted a general rule of thumb kind of deal. I think a medium would work fine if I had to use it. Worst case I just have to fight them a little longer. I'll be on a boat anyway so i don't have to worry about pulling them completely out of the water with the rod.

@910559
(You)

And he was talking about the saltwater stuff with that. The M would be straight for bass because you normally don't have to haul a 10lb+ bass up a 20' bridge. But saltwater is different depending where you fish from. I would be down to have that extra backbone if something really big were to get hooked and it had to be lifted out of the water onto a pier or something.

Plus with the M-XFast action vs MH-Med action, once you start getting outside the reccommended lure weights you will feel it. With the M-XFast rod, you could probably go under the weight (like 1/6oz) and still be able to load it up and get some distance. But even with that XFast taper, the middle of the rod will flex a bit if you want to launch a big 2oz+ swimbait. With the MH-Med action rod, it won't flex for shit with the 1/6oz lure and you won't get much distance but then the 2oz swimbait is going to bend the tip quite a bit but the backbone will hold up and you should still be able to flick it breddy gud.

Fuck, I slept in too late today. Gonna be fun waking up at 4:30am tomorrow.

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>>910535
define "stupid"

in many years of fishing I've broken 4 rods. you wanna talk story brah?
>walking on jetty
>see big ass crab
>poke rod into crevice
>here..crabby..crabby..
>ShaBoom! rogue wave
>rekt

>eel river steelhead fishing
>brand new lami nwest
>get 6 wild on jigs
>drink 6er and talk shit at pullout
>shuttle back to parking with guide
>subaru with rod tubes towing a drift boat
>puts my rod inside hatchback with his dog
>guide offer j to smoke
>cherry drops in his lap, i lol
>fucker swerves and tacos into barrier
>rv'ers help us drag it straight
>me: nigga u jus rly fckd up?
>him: yeah...shit
>pull my rod at parking and its broke
>fucking dog
>rekt

>semi new phenix 809
>summertime
>flat fall for yellowtail
>hit bottom jig jig
>bam fish on
>rod bends to full
>slide drag to max
>gonna horse this one
>pow! rod breaks 3rd guide
>wtf?
>rekt

>carp fishing in the delta
>muh rainshadow carp rod
>crushed cheerios-n-koolaid niqqa
>bud lite drunk
>shore fishing with friends
>go to tules to piss
>hear commotion
>fish on..
>my rod
>notice rod tip is broken off and sliding down line
>REEEEEEEEEE
>rekt

there it is..whats your broken rod story?

Anyone have experience with pic related? Is it worth it after my 25% off? Could I cast 3/16 oz with it with a light/moderate light rod? I want a light combo with #10 braid for finesse.

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>>910570
Kek. Good job. Years ago I had a few rods get busted from sitting in my garage getting thrown around and crushed but even Ugly Stiks would get rekt in that.

The only recent one was that Abu rod. I snagged something with the 20lb braid. So I had the handle of the rod down by my feet in the dirt and then I was just pulling the line with the rod like in my arm where I bent the top third at a really sharp angle and snapped the rod like 2/3 of the way up.

Fiberglass Ugly Stik might have taken that fucked up bend but I'd rather not sacrafice all of the action and sensitivity if it means I break a rod every 5 years doing some dumb shit.

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>>910571
>forgot pic
>>910570
>be me
>carp fishing from a big rock
>maybe 12
>soaking corn
>go to pee
>hear scraping
>plunk
>run back rods gone
>cry
>cast out a second line
>want to catch my rod back
>eating sammich
>not paying attention
>scrape
>plunk
>two gone
I still have flashbacks

>>910574
How much is it? Wait til they go on sale for $30 nigga.

I think TXfag bought one when they were on sale and said it was straight for the money. I really, really like the spinning reels and kinda want to buy another one. Maybe I will set up another UL spinning combo with one of those in a Size 10 with one of dem Okuma SST UL rods that a few people have.

>>910564
After the last three threads im sure you are tired of typing this out. You must have this shit saved in notebook by now. Its practically pasta at this point.

>>910580
Kek I probably should just copy that.

Or put in the pastebin "Top 10 Reasons Not To Buy An Ugly Stik"

I mean I don't post it in every thread but I do have to tell people to stay away quite a bit.

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>>910574
>>910575
It's not terrible. Idk about lighter lures, but it cast heavier ones well enough. I have 30# braid and it's on a top water rod so.

>>910581
>1) Berkley Lightning Rod is $39 everywhere
>2) Berkley Lightning Rod Shock is $49 most places
>3) Berkley Lightning Rod Shock is $39 at Walmart
>4) Shimano Sellus is $59 with great varieties and actions for bass fishing and a good reel seat
>5) Fenwick Eagle is $49-$59 and has what we call "Action" and "Sensitivity"
>6) No. 8 Blackout is $79 and will make you feel like a respectable angler
>7) Other rods are offered in a variety of actions and weights to better fit your needs
>8) An Ugly Stik will still break when you slam the tip in your car door
>9) Fiberglass is for Corvettes, not casting lures
>10) Ugly Stiks weigh a ton compared to similar size graphite composite rods which means terrible balance and can make your arm tired without the proper fapping routine to build strength

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Its funny that all the companies are owned by one bigger company..

>The Jarden Corporation/Pure Fishing
>yfw you're basically buying the same regurgitated shit with different branding

>>910582
Yeah that's why I'm not sure about Skid's plan to cast light stuff. Those cheaper baitcasters seem to work well casting heavier stuff because they don't have super light machined spools and a million bearings. Might be better going with a spinning reel. The more expensive memecasters seem like they are better with lighter baits but goddamn they are unforgiving if all the conditions aren't perfect.

>>910593
Kinda. Many of the companies are really run separately and they do their own development and design but having them all owned by one parent company really helps with manufacturing and distribution.

You can open up a bunch of different Abu reels and see similar designs in them even from all different models and prices. Then you can open a bunch of Pfluegers and see the design they use in their reels and a lot of it will be a bit different from the Abu reels.

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>>910457
>that gay ass lure

since when has slinging jigs specialized? I did it on the east coast plenty for stripers, blues and tuna. a small conventional has less drag strength than a lexa400. the lexa can toss lighter baits, be it live baits, epoxy jigs, hogies or poppers. what conventional reel did you suggest for this? look up the specs. do your homework. the lexa 400 is fire.

>>910574
>two gone

This is what becomes of people whose parents don't let them play in traffic enough.

>>910574
>be 10
>just getting into fishing
>down at the river with my older brother and cousin
>rod is sitting on a forked stick as a rod holder
>walk off for a piss
>brother yells out
>turn and see my rod get yanked 5 metres down the bank into the water
>cousin rips his shirt off and dives in
>finds it 5 minutes later
>says he only found it because he could hear the reel screaming from all the line peeling off and it got caught by a tree root

Was so fucking happy to get it back but would have loved to know how big the fish was. Funnily enough I found that rod in a nearby lake 2 years before that, a big orange old school Jarvis Walker rod with cork handles, still have it to this day.

>>910594
I was thinking I'd try a lews
>>910611
Nice. My shit was long gone
>>910610
I've learned techniques for this situation, it's just I was young and stupid.

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So my friend has this model 1950 zebco sundowner rod. Looks great and all. But the reel on it is pathetic looking. Its plastic,hardly holds any line, and clicks as it reels. Pic related is it.

What would be a good cheap reel to swap on it? The rod us 7 feet, medium action.

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How do I make pic related weedless? Perhaps bend the hook in a way ?

Bought a bunch of these on sale but pretty mad at how much I snag them.

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>>910619
lews cast a fuckin mile. totally under rated reels. love the way they freespool.

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>>910626
piano wire/broken guitar string wrapped around the shank bent towards the hook. the grub acts as a buffer

30lb mono heated and bent

drill a tiny hole and glue in a piece of mono

piece of stiff mono super glued into the grub

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>>910621
that thing is a old piece of shit. the rod is probably no better...he should get a ugly stik gx2 combo for fiddy.

>>910631
I'd figure a way to just bend the hook would be better, if not easier too.

They definitely bend since one of the snags I got out of and moved the angle of the hook by 45 degrees.

Also guitar wire tends is hard to warp in the desired soot, at least from my experience.

Maybe those bag ties that are basically wire would be better.

If I roll with that do Ill replicate your drawing.

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>>910633
The rod is very legit feeling. Don't have better pic of it but man the guides on it are white. They didn't fuck around when you have white eyelets on the guards.

>>910628
Think on a light/med light rod ? Could flick weightless soft plastic lures? (Flukes/senkos mainly weightless) and other similar weight lures? I.mean I can get one for $75

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I'm going to have three done soon.

>>910570
>Fishing with ex
>sunrise to sundown
>catch personal best gilthead seabream
>fuck a lot
>get more fish
>great day
>time to pack shit up
>im sitting on a high rock, she is down, i can only reach top third of rod
>hand it to me
>okay just a sec
>go on hand it to me
>bitch gets touchy feely and im tired as shit
>hand it to me
>okay just a sec let me hug youuuu
>foh
>take rod by its top third trying not to bend it much
>snap city
>im boiling
>AW SORRY YURO I SHOULDA HANDED IT TO U WHEN U SAID SO
>bitchhhhh

Went and ordered the same rod from Austria the next day.

>>910660
I see why she's an ex

>>910664
One of the reasons
Current gf just takes pictures of me and likes to hand me lures and pack em back in box when i switch. Cant complain.

>>910665
Your gf kicks ass. I need a bf like that but the guys who like what I like are either straight or homophobic.

Ayy my secret santa package to be delivered today! Didn't expect it until at least wednesday, neat as fuckkk

>>910698
Post pics when you open it>>910698

>>910700
Ofc i will

What you still doin up sgid

>>910713
Can't sleep

>>910713
He's dog sitting for his cousin so he gonna be up all night.

>>910633
What a piece of shit

>>910621
Shimano Sienna 3000, Abu Garcia Cardinal 30, Pfleuger Trion 30-35, Okuma Stratus V 30-35.

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And here it is!!

Thanks a bunch famuel! Secretly was hoping for the jigpara, been eyeing it for the longest time, but never pulled the trigger on it. Perfect weights and sizes desu, dig the colors too.
The softies look neat as fuck too, i have one smaller daiwa duckfin shad in perch color and it looks good in the water.

10/10 would secret santa again

>>910604
>that gay ass lure
>spoolteks
>gay

kys you dumb fuck. I love not having to use a leader when fishing around pilings.

>>910604
>a small conventional has less drag strength than a lexa400
>smallest penn fathom
>#25

http://www.pennfishing.com/penn-reels-conventional-reels-penn-fathom/penn-fathom-star-drag/1285645.html

>>909698
>>909699
I have some plastic slow sinking weights which do help a lot with this. I need to get me a pins too, then ill try to chuck it deep.

>>910739
Dank. I think we still have 2 more people waiting- Skid and Zuriss? I know what Skid got and I'm sure TXfag did good for Zuriss. Worked out well and it was nice I didn't have to keep track of 50 people.

Def gonna try and do it again like this next year. Hell, maybe we should do one for Easter so people in the north can actually use the lures when they get them. It's easy enough spending $20-$25 and placing a quick order on BassPro.com and I'm at least stoked with what I got even with a saltwater angler from Yurop shopping for me.

>>910755
I would call myself a lure caster from yurop, since my drought has been going on fkr too long.

Gonna try to fish w bait n hook today

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>>910633
>pic

Anyone who needs a super bendy rod to play fish just doesn't know how to play fish correctly.

>>910653
Pretty cool. Look into how to make epoxy eyes too.

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Sup senpaitachi

>>910787
Yee that looks nice. I'm out here on this route I hate just getting pissed off and talking shit to these customers because they are straight disrespectful.

A couple more of these BS stops and I will be out by my regular route with cooler customers.

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>>910653
here's one similar that i made.

>>910834
That wire or heavy braid holding the hook?

>>910837
kevlar cord used for assist hooks.

>>910834
Where do you fish that? Just vertically or can you cast it and retrieve

>>910845
I'm still trying to figure out how he ties it on.

>>910848
The hook is tied to a split ring which is put on the main split ring. Main line tied to main split ring.

>>910851
Sorry just looked again, the hook is actually tied to a solid (not split) ring. You'd tie up to the split if I'm not mistaken

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>>910845
fishes best vertically, I mostly use it when i park on top of kelp but i've cast and retrieved it through the surf and it catches.


>>910848
you tie to the solid ring it's 10x stronger than a split ring. the flutter jig dangles and flashes on the drop.

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>>910438
I dissembled most of the lures and put all the brass into some vinegar overnight. They could use some tumbling, but I don't feel like finding my tumbler. I dressed some trebles and am experimenting with designs now. It'll be interesting to see what blades stall.

Where is the 704z shill?

What line should I spool onto my new 704z and my second hand 712z?

>>910855
Damn wtf that's a huge croaker

I have a ton of jig components like that (same size). Can you recommend some cordage and hook style/size

>>910855
>you tie to the solid ring it's 10x stronger than a split ring

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. You can get some wire and make jump rings then spot weld them closed.

>>910863
First of all, post pics.

Old Z reels do not like braid so go for Berkley fireline if you want a super line.
>704z- 17-20# mono or 20# fireline which has a much higher breaking strength than 20#, do not get fireline over 30# since it will cast like shit
>712z - 8-12# mono or 10-14# fireline

>>910867
The 704 is new not old, still won't like braid?

Ill probably try mono on the 712z but 90% of my fishing is done with braid.

Will post pics. 704 arrives today, 712 comes between Friday and Monday

>>910880
By old I meant old design. I have one of the newly manufactured 704z's too. I have heard heavy braid like 50# will work but fireline is the best super line for these reels. Also it's more abrasion resistant so it's great in the surf.

Anyone else use high test braid as backing and a low test mono as a leader?

I have green 50lbs braid as main backing, 10 feet of high-vis yellow 50lbs braid then a 8 feet bit of mono that ranges from 4lbs to 25lbs. I just switch off the mono leader as needed for whatever test line I want to use and never need to respool or swap spools. I forego the leader when catfishing. I use long FG knots for connecting everything.

>>910891
I do it all time on my drop shot setups.

30# braid with a 8-10ft 6-10# flouro leader.

its pretty common

>>910880
Also, if it's second hand you'll probably have to give it a good cleaning. My 712z's spool was completely seized (no drag, wouldn't spin) when I got it. When I opened it up I found the drag stack filled with sand, the guy must have put it back together on the beach. Don't worry though, they're really easy to clean and take apart unlike modern reels.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6971.0

Also, use Penn grease and oil. Use the grease for the gears and the oil for the handle, main shaft and bail.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/PENN-1238744-Penn-Oil-and-Grease-Pack/32175217

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Penn-carbon-drag-kit-SPINFISHER-712-713-720-722-712Z-713Z-720Z-722Z-/121537058195?hash=item1c4c2c5593%3Ag%3A8osAAOSws65TqcKT&_trkparms=pageci%253A5d8be146-c09f-11e6-814b-74dbd180fe85%257Cparentrq%253Af47638b61580a3588b9bba7affdad560%257Ciid%253A9

Get this for the 712z. The leather drag washers are unusable.

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>my 704z and 712z

>>910913
I have the updated washers coming with the reel. Will have to grab grease though. Do you fully pack the interior with grease? Read a lot of people recommending it

>>910920
Yes, slather the inside with grease. Make sure to remove the old grease from the 712z before putting on new grease. Use a coin or flathead screwdriver for old hardened grease. Also, put oil on the line roller too.

>>910923
Sounds good.

In a week or two I'll be able to confirm your shilling as warranted or unwarranted lol.

Main reason I got it is because I dropped another reel in the sand and had to take it apart and I don't think I'll ever get it back together unless I pay someone to service it

>>910925
These Penns along with the senator conventional reels are like AK47's. They're not super smooth nor do they put out 30# of drag but they are really tough, have very few parts and will last a lifetime. Parts are also easily found on eBay if you manage to fuck one up.

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>>910932
so basically what you are saying is the only thing its good at is not breaking?

you're not a very good shill

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>>910864
I bought bulk spools of varivas assist. you can look under "assist braid" or "assist cord" its not cheap but if you look around you can find it sold in smaller 3' lengths. I used 65lb pp braid but found that its too limp and you miss hits because of it. I have seen guys use jerry brown hollow for assist cord but I only have one reel spooled hollow and paid a lot for that line so i'm not going to pull off the topshot and cut my knots for assist cord..
the solid rings I order online, most jig shops sell components. made a few myself but that shit is work and if it isnt perfect then it costs you a fish.
split rings buy the best quality you can afford. for small stuff I just buy what ever is strongest cheapest and swings well in the jigs hole.
the rest is cheap shrink tubing, which you can find in most hd's or lowes.
on the bare hook assists i like to add some flashabou or mylar for flash you can just superglue it on when you glue the assist knots.

>>910935
No they are great reels just don't expect the glasay smoothness of a modern reels.

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>>910866
>2016
>using chain for fishing

proven fact: solid rings are much stronger than jump rings.

>spot weld
nope..I stick to what the pros do and braze the rings. thanks tho'

>>910939
Brazing weakens the rings, fyi.

>>910739
Wow I didn't realize there were two of those bony jigs in there. Neat. Hope you can catch some fish on em and get some pics to post.

>>910935
>>910937
It doesn't matter if your reel has every bell and every whistle if it seizes up permanently because you dropped it in the sand or got hit with a sneaker wave and sprayed with salt. Some days I want to be able to not give a fuck about my reel when surf fishing

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>>910837
Mine is just braid since it is so small. If the braid looks like it is wearing I will just tie a new one.

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>>910866
tho' jump rings are cheap. might have to pick up some for ul A-rigs

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>>910953
thats interesting. the heating and cooling part i guess weakens the steel? that shit is far too much work for a few ring, i buy rings or send my jigs in to have the rings put on. hasnt been a problem for me.

>>910956
>not give a fuck about my reel when surf fishing
dude thats how it should be..thats why you pack it with grease and rinse after use. corrosion x works good for rinsing.

made a few mole crabs to test in the surf.

>>910956
If you want to make the Z more waterproof you can fill the gearbox all the way to the top with Yamaha blue marine grease and coat the drag washers with Cal's drag grease. On its own though it's pretty corrosion resistant since its mostly aluminum and brass.

>>910891
i do that sometimes, but ilike to not break equivalent diameter(i wont use less than 10 pound test with #40 braid, wont use less than #6 with #20 braid etc)
>>910783
some techniques require noodly rods
>3-10 pound steelhead
>4-6 pound test
>#12 hook or smaller
>not using a noodle rod
>expecting to land any fish
or
>dead of winter
>#20 or smaller hooks
>#2 line
>dont want to snap the line or rip the hook out of the fish

noodly rods absorb headshakes and initial runs so the drag has time to kick in. thats why we have slow action rods.

>>910971
those look epic

>>910891
I'm not sure what you are using it for but when spooling for surf it's normally 50# as the main line with 20# as backing.

>>910971
>the heating and cooling part i guess weakens the steel

Yeah, it depends on the type of metal too. Some alloys of spring-tempered stainless steel anneal and can't be tempered again. Working them has to be done cold. However, split rings and brazed rings won't have a problem. Most are 60lbs to 250lbs test for anything larger than a #3 heavy duty split ring. I've never seen any of them pull out or break.

Jump rings on the other hand, should be brazed or spot welded. I wouldn't trust them otherwise. Spot welding is the fastest and doesn't require extra consumable materials.

>>910958
Get some big split rings and a pair of split ring pliers. Those prices are terrible, use ebay. I personally buy spools of wire and make my own jump rings.

>>910988
You've never used a hand caster before it seems.

Went fishing for gilthead bream today, i had some action going on on the two rods i set up, and one fierce fish yanking on my bait, but it never hooked up.
After a short period of rod twitching, a guy passed right above my bait, trolling for squid, and since then i had literally no touches on either of the two rods... baka

But im encouraged, as there is takers, just a matter of giving them the right sized hook probably.

>>910971
I use corrosion x already. I definitely will cram it with grease tho lol

>>910973
Can I just use the penn brand grease

>>910996
I stoped off at the river on my way to lowes today and got skunked so it could be worse.

>>911007
Penn X-1r is good stuff if you are in cold climates.

>>910995
a hand caster is just a ring with line wound around it, its not like other fishing gear, its drag (your grip) can be adjusted instantaneously without moving your hand, because you're the entire drag. normal reels with a drag take a minimum amount of pressure to break drag, then it can be pulled easier than that initial break, so for that, a soft action rod is good. when drag can be changed in an instant just by tightening your grip on the rod, then ill concede rod action is irrelevant for fighting a fish.

>>911007
>can I use the pen grease

That would cost an absolute fortune if you plan on packing it to the brim with grease. Yamaha marine grease is like 10 bucks for a huge tube. Use the pen grease if you just want to keep it lubed and Yamaha grease for gearbox waterproofing

>>911012
You need to learn the proper use of a hand caster before you start talking about them like you know what you doing.

>>911030
handlining is literally the simplest form of fishing. you bait a hook, then litterally throw the line out. you control the drag by how tightly you grip the line, or if you have a smooth spool like a cuban yoyo you can grip tighter or looser on that to control drag.

>>911039
No point in arguing, that dude obviously knows everything there is to know

>>911039
>still talking
>still not knowing anything proper
>skid

Every damn time.

>>911044
>if you don't use something exact same way I do you're and idiot lol
>just stop talking dude you know nothing obviously

This is bait right? Possible autism?

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>>910891
For my leaders, I have a spool of 20lb flouro and a spool of 8lb. I run the 20lb for most bass stuff but I will run 8lb flouro on 10lb or 6lb braid if I'm going lighter. I lost a decent bass the other day with 15lb braid and 8lb flouro for the Texas rig which kinda sucks.

But the 20lb is good to run on 20lb-40lb braid because it is strong enough to land any freshwater fish around here (aside from maybe giant snek) and then when I hook a rocky drop off with 30lb main line on the memecaster, I can break the 20lb flouro and not lose a bunch of lines. Plus 30lb+ braid is such a pain in the ass to break without cutting it. Even wrapping a couple wrags around my hand and then looping 30-40lb braid around that, it is a bitch to try and break it at the knot instead of losing 20yds of line each time.

>>911044
>>911040
Kek. Skid is gonna skid but I'm suprised you expect anything moar from some tripfag on 4chan.

>>911019
>tfw white lithium grease
Great for errything. I pack that into gears and then have a couple random bottles of Abu or Pflueger oil that I hit the bearings with.

>>911054
Where can you find lithium grease like that? I've only ever seen the spray cans which are messy and annoying

>>911057
Any hardware store should have it. I'm pretty sure I bought that tube at Lowe's and it wasn't expensive at all.

And yeah, the cans suck when you actually want to pack gears with grease. But even Walmart probably has the solid stuff in their auto or tool section. Otherwise the bicycle section will often have it as well as smaller bottles of good oil for bearings n shit.

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So Zuriss and Skid are the only two still waiting on their Secret Santa gifts, right?

Who would be down to do the same thing with Easter baskets? At least that way anons up north can actually use the stuff they get.

That was fun though. It's like MTB/LTB except you get to feel good about buying a gift for somebody else.

>>911059
Alright thanks, I look around next time I'm there. I just got two, one ounce Lucas oil fishing reel oil bottles which I love. Amazon had them 50% off so I had to cop more.


And I'd be down for Easter. I still feel kinda bad that I didn't get Cali fag something he could use. I tried searching around for what makes good trout tackle that isn't fly fishing related and all that came up was jerkbaits and spinners and since all the pics he posts are usually soft plastics I tried to get hims somtheing like that. Oh well at least the Mepps came through

>>911070
Hopefully he can use some of that larger stuff for bass or whatever. Anything will take those grubs or worms if they are large enough. But sometimes those small soft plastics can be hard to come across.

I wish I knew what tackle you had and I would've tried something different but you really can't have enough X-Raps or Mepps. Those X-Raps are great lures considering most of the newer stuff is a bunch of gimmicks (like BaitBalls).

Should I get the regular spook or the spook jr. for regular midwestern pond/lake bass fishing? I feel like the regular sized one is more geared toward pike.

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>>911074
If we do it for Easter I'm just going to ask for the memeiest bass baits who ever I get can find.

These are all my hard baits. I haven really branched out to anything diffferent from them. When ever I run out of one kind I just replace it with the exact same thing. I need to start trying new baits but the Gander near me is ran by brain dead fucks who never stock anything so it's tough

>>911077
Regular one. Easier to cast and easier to walk. I get small bass that are barly bigger than the bait itself all the time. Bass don't give a fuck

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>>911080
Thanks much anon. Its been added to the ordah

>>911063
I should have a job by easter so I'd be down.

Can't wait to start fishing next year. Maybe by fall I'll be accomplished enough to tripfag like you guys

Hey Pepsi I was looking at meeps at waly world and they had some knock offs that where $2 or so less. Would they work as well as meeps or are they trash?

So guys. I work in the woods. Every once in awhile I come across some old irrigation ponds that im not technically supposed to fish but I think im going to start beginning with an acre pond on a job site I was at today. Whats a covert way to fish these ponds without losing my job?

>>910604
You know what? I take it all back, you're right. After looking more into that Lexa it's a pretty bad ass baitcaster.

>>911102
Are you talking about the rooster tails? I don't fish freshwater very often but I've caught a few bass on the warden's rooster tails in white.

>>911078
Missin a couple now...

How is that Clackin Rap? That lipless one. I know TXfag grabbed a couple on clearance but even those prices were so high that I didn't love it enough to grab any.

You get down on any Chatterbaits yet? If not, I reccommend checking out your local Walmarts and lookin for the Z-Man mini 1/8oz one.

Also have you ever gotten anything on the BaitBall? I wanted those for the longest time and finally grabbed a couple and I'm not impressed with the $18 lure. Glad I didn't pay full price.

>>911102
Mepps are still a best. The cheaper ones don't spin as well but are good for spots with snags or testing unfamiliar waters where you may lose a bait.

The willow blades on Rooster Tails and those knock offs don't create as much vibration as Mepps either. That is good for some conditions but worse for others.

>>911114
Holy shit somebody admitting they are wrong on 4chan.

We should screen cap this for prosperity.

>>911115
>>911116

I can't recall what the brand was I think it started with Y or Z and was written in blue.

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>>911102
>>911115
Also Rooster Tails are probably the best of the cheaper ones. Dick's and Bass Pro will have them on sale for ~$2 from time to time and I always pick up 4 or 5 of some of the bright colors.

>>911112
Thinking about just putting some shitty zebco 50 lb test rigged with a small weight and hook. Putting some crappie powerbait on it and throwing that shit in there with a bobber all day tied to a tree while I work.

>>911063
I'd be down. Didn't participate in this one but wish I did.

>>911095
I feel the same way famalam. I hardly ever catch anything so never have anything to contribute.

>>911118
I'm dead serious about it too. It looks like a neat little reel and it's definitely not the freshwater bass fishing memecaster I thought it was. I still think conventionals are better general purpose offshore reels but I don't think he'd make a bad decision if he went with the Lexa.

>>911123
Look into the fishing laws for your state to see if thats even legal.

A land onwer or your boss might just cruse you out, a game warden will take your truck.

>>911074
I love xraps so god damn much I own 5 of them. Those new long cast single hook xraps are perfect for fishing from the pier. I've already caught 2 blues on them and the single hooks make it really easy to unhook them.

>>911128
Got to have written permission on your person from land owner. There wont be any game wardens anywhere near where I am. Im practically my own boss since I manage myself. Mostly only the client i would have to worry about.

>>911126
Yeah daiwa makes some great shit.

>>911044
Well then, what am I missing? The fish dance? Ceremonial goat sacrifice?
>>911057
Hardware stores, sometimes bigger bait shops will have it in their boat accessories, boat dealers should have some
>>911063
I'm down
Secret Easter basket?
>>911074
>not just buying reddkngton anon flies
>>911095
Go buy a combo then and have a ball
>>911114
I'm curious now.

>>911128
Good point though. I dont really want to piss off clients.

>>911095
>accomplished
>Skid
>Pepsi

>>911134
Just keep a little 5'-6' light to med power rod (not totally ultralight) and get some 1000-2000 size reel with 6lb mono or 10lb braid. Get a 2pc if you want to break it down smaller.

Then just bring a couple Rapalas (Originals or Husky Jerks) and Rooster Tails in different sizes since basically anything will hit those two lures. Cast around for 20min, get back to work.

>>911136
>buying flies
I think his email said NE US bass, pike, and panfish. I didn't know who it was because he posts as anon. He was the only one in the Secret Santa who didn't trip.

BTW, where is you present? When u gonna get it?

>>911140
>tfw someone literally sent him a dragon dildo

>>911134
Just to give you an example of how this can go down in Texas.

>you fish this persons tank and maybe get a few fish for supper
>land owner sees you doing this and call fish and wild life
>they bust in your door for poaching because they can
>handcuff you spend hours searching your house
>find fish bones or scales
>they take your gear your guns your truck and fine you

Seems extream but hey they can do it and have done it. Poaching is not something thats worth it.

>>911116
Yeah that pic is a few months old I've added a bit more to the arsenal including what you got me

as for the clackin rap, I like it. Definitely a spring bait since its loud as fuck. Not too much different from any other lipless cranks. My favs are the Sebile ones

I've got two chattermemes as of now, an 'elite' one in a blue gill pattern and a regular one in chartreuse both have caught me fish but most of the time im fishing deep open water so they dont get used too often

The bait ball crank I got out of a MTB and I still havnt even tried it out lol

>>911140
thats me. I just got my fly rod so im nooby as fuck. Id definitely appreciate flies but I wouldn't really know how or where to use them. So far all I've gotten was what skid recommended me a few threads ago as a starter pack

>>911148
whoops, forgot trip

>look guys im like skid

>>911137
That is the best way to find a cool spot just ask them then bring some gear 9ne day. Most people are cool with it, my fishing buddy is an electrician and has hand full of tanks that he takes me too.

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>>911039
>>911030
>castable handline
>cuban yoyo

https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=229DberHIdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLmfoSpTP4Y

"handlines" are commonly trolled and you can catch huge fish doing it. the reel is your hand and its a direct 1:1 ratio. this is basically modern jigging in a nutshell. the rod (your arms) are merely used for the jigging motions. the reel (your hands in this case) is used as a winch to pull the fish from the depths. baka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwrwM4Gap40
skip to like 10 minute in for bendo.

>>911145
True. NC isnt as extreme. Im not trespassing per se but i sure as fuck dont have written permission to fish. Probably not worth it because the pond is so tannin rich. I will post a pic of it tmm just for the hell of it. Its is just one of many irrigation ponds that ive wondered if anything is in.

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>>911158
Those small ones can be fun. You rarely pull big bass out of anything like that but even in small ponds you could get big panfish and maybe a nice channel cat and always big carp. The biggest sneks I have landed are always out of narrow canals since they breathe air and don't need a giant healthy lake.

Those couple ponds with the Jaguar cichlids are really small too. Like maybe 30yds across for most of it and then 200yds long? Just these odd little ponds in back of a shopping center near a subdivision.

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All three are painted, epoxy coated, and have the hooks attached now.

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>>911112
ebay "carbon telescopic fishing rod"
throw a 2500 on there, a small plano of essential lures in your backpack. maybe some nightcrawlers...park-n-fish.

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>>911112
stoned.. used wrong pic

>>911054
>white lithium grease
>Great for errything
anal?

>>911172
You are better off buying a 3pc or 4pc travel rod. It will still break down small but actually have some action and sensitivity.

>>911167
Up here in nc they are used to water fields in droughts. We have the storm water retention ponds up here too like you are talking about. I actually help design ponds like that. I have pulled some really big blue gills out of glorified puddles. it really doesnt take much water for them to get big.

>>911172
Id buy the fuck out of this. Seriously considering right now cause it could fit in my work vest.

>>911175
Im bout to just get a mother fucking 2 pc snoopy rod and use that though.

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>>911175
its actually a nice rod for what it is. I have one. it packs in my suitcase perfectly, is wrapped nice and feels like a regular rod. I was surprised truthfully. would be perfect for op.

>>911167
We have one tank we go to thats maybe 100 by 200 yards and abot 10' deep in the middle. The owner has had bass in it for years and has a rule that you cant keep anything over 3 lbs. He has pics of im hold 10lb bass that he has caught in it.

>>911172
>>911184
I have one that I keep in my jeep with a small box of lures. It's the only pole I have with a spinning reel on it. It works well for what it is.

>>911158
If you an find it online watch lonestar justice. It's a Texas game warden version of cops. It's a fun little show to kill time with.

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>>911167
pretty fish, if i lived there i would have some killer fish tanks and a bait tank in the backyard..

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>>911189
i watch that show, have you seen north woods law or wild justice? kinda the same type of show.
its like cops for rednecks inna woods

>>911168
Shouldn't the line be shorter? I don't understand why you didn't just attach the hook directly to the lure.

On a side note try putting a tiny jighead with a grub or something on instead of a bare hook

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>>910867
>>910864
>>910880

So why do they both click when you reel in? It stops when I turn off the anti reverse knob so it isn't something fucked up in the gears

These things are heavy as fuck. And you dont seem to be able to manually put the bail down

>>911205
The clicking IS the anti reverse. They aren't that heavy compared to other reels its size. Remember, the 704z is made for 10ft surf rods. If you don't like them, return them.

>>911205
>he fell for it

>>911211
The 712 size I would definitely get a lot more use out of as it would make a better fit for most of my rods. I guess I should probably fish the bigger rod more often since I built myself a sand spike and such so I'll probably end up keeping them. Plus the weight is a trade off for the durability and corrosion resistance

What do you mean the clicking is the anti-reverse? Do you know of schematics PDFs on the internet? Neither came with instructions or parts lists

>>911205
The bails can only be closed by turning the handle. It's not uncommon for people to make them bailless by cutting it off with a dremel. It's also only half an ounce heavier than the SSV 6500.

>>911214
>fell for it
We'll see once I've used them if I fell for it or not.

DESU I'm impressed with the reel I opened it to look at the inner mechanics. I need a daily driver reel I can disassemble and clear the sand out of. No matter how careful I've been with all my other reels they eventually get a tiny bit of sand in them or, worse, you fuck up and drop it right into the sand or salt. Haven't broken a reel this way yet but its a royal pain in the ass to disassemble modern reels.

These will be for when IDGAF and feel like being able to put my rod down on the ground at the beach lol

>>911218
http://www.scottsbt.com/catalog/store/images/pennparts/schematics/704z.pdf

The clicking noise is the anti reverse lever hitting a gear.

And don't overfill the spools.

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>>911205
snip the bail off. it takes a little practice but.. if you want to be old school classic its a must.
match it with a fiberglass surf rod and it'll balance.

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>>911256
It balances fine on a more modern surf rod.

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looking for a good crappie rod and a real to go with it

thanks

>>911145
Also, depending on how far into the sticks you are/the landowner has cattle you may get a few bullets slung your way...

>>911157
So you wrap the line back on the spool to reel in then feather it back out with resistance from your hand if the fish runs like I've been saying?
>>911168
Those look cool

>>911174
No Buy J lube powder, 10 ounces makes 8 gallons of lube
>>911194
Swimbait
>>911262
Budget?

>>911262
Get mr. Crappie set up. They are the best. Don't listen to the faggots here. All they do is rip on mr. Crappie and ugly stik. Im gonna let you in on a secret about most of the ppl on this board. They are gear fags... and im pretty sure most of them dont even catch fish. I dont see many posted other than pepsi dinks and bait fish that cause arguments. You dont need fancy shit to catch fish. Mr. Crappie line and reel on a gx2 will do with a bobber and a goddamn minnow.

@911279 (You)
>gear fags because we say that you should take the $40 you would spend on the GX2 and spend it on a Lightning Rod instead because it isn't a fiberglass wobble stick
>gearfags because we say you are better off spending $30 on a Shimano Sienna than a plastic Ugly Stik reel that will wobble more than the rod

Yup. Gearfags. I would reccommend that Bass Pro Tourney Special rod over the GX2 combo or whatever any day.

>>911282
>overexaggerating product perceived shortcomings
>gear fag
>autism

Pick two pepsi

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>>911286
I had to get out of bed for this
>Ugly Stik with 1/4oz at tip

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>>911295
>Ugly Stik with zero weight on the tip
This is with the handle absolutely level. Now imagine trying to load up a lure of any weight and cast successfully. Then imagine you want to try a finesse presentation with little twitches. It does not work with shitty fiberglass rod design.
>into the trash

>>911286
Uglysticks do suck for anything more than babies first rod, and even then.
They're heavy as shit, lacking in sensitivity, and super slow. The only saving grace is they're indestructible.