Fishing & Tackle Thread

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>>1041773
Found this light-up Livingston crank just laying on the shore today.

Battery's dead and it's missing hits hooks+split rings, but otherwise seems fine.

Recommend me the proper-sized trebles for it.

>>1041783
are you sure it's dead?

>>1041793
Yeah. I've gotten a couple like it out of MTB's, you're supposed to wet your fingers and touch the two hook eyelets to complete the circuit. It'll make a light clicking noise/feel if the battery's good.

I take it this one sat in a tackle box most of its life, because the body of it is pretty much pristine.

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>>1041797
In fact, here's it's little brother still in the package from the May MTB.

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I went fishing earlier today for a couple hours and only caught this little guy on a rooster tail. Ever since my local lake had a algae bloom fishing really slowed down for me.

>>1041797
>>1041798

I've had a few similar lures that would only actually light up when put underwater and moves around. I've never had a livingston crankbait though.

As for the hook size, I'd probably put a #4 silver treble on the belly, and a #4 treble on the tail painted red.

>>1041802
Welp, I actually got it to work. Guess the battery isn't dead, although it's noticeably weaker than the new one.

Same method but the one I found but you also have to touch the eye in the bill. So 3 points of contact. Makes the same sound as the new one.

Will probably pick up a pack of #4 Gamakatsu's tomorrow, since my choices are Eagle Claw or Gama here locally.

>>1041783
The smaller the trebles, the better. It probably came with 6s on it. Be sure to invest in split rings as well. Unscrewing eyelets to attach hooks is a BITCH.

>>1041807
Yeah, these are molded in so it needs to be split rings.

I have those, and actual split ring pliers, already. Will probably use #4 or #5 rings.

>>1041808
You can probably find it on bass pros website. They usually list the hook size.

>>1041807
>>1041808
Oh, also, the ones that are on the newer Livingston are fuckhuge, albeit thankfully short-shank. Definitely *at least* #4's, possibly #2's. OEM for these are VMC according to Livingston's website.

I'll see what's available locally tomorrow and if need be order either VMC or Daiichi short-shanks off tackle warehouse or some shit.

>>1041800
fish frogs on the algae mats for bass
use heavy line though
>>1041770
thats pretty much what i do
did you fuck up the proportions?
bluegill dont care
crowd the hook eye?
cut the thread back, head cement it all down, bluegill wont care
90% of bluegill can be had redily on #10 or #12 (whichever you have too many hooks of) with an amorphous blob of foam and a bit of rubber legs from your scrap pile held on with any thread you regret wasting your $3 on

>>1041813
I have never used frogs before what so i look for.

>>1041813
My worst flies have been my best for bluegill. Without fail. I was trying to tie up a little white attractor today(or yesterday rather) with a more experienced tier. I fucked it up something awful(shit looks like a dude with downs and Parkinson's tied it) but I'm gonna throw it at my pond and see if I can't catch dinner this week.

for lure survey guy:
>>1041814

>>1041817
youll catch plenty. literally when i tie bluegill flies i tie a foam ant, with no hackle, or wings, just 2 rubber legs on the side. or recently ive started tying a hares ear nymph with no tail, ribbing made of the tag end of my black thread, no wing case, and some rubber legs just to that -something- on it moves at all. it takes next to no time to tie, is hard to ruin, and who cares if you lose it. ill tie one real quick to post a picture of it.

>>1041821
I've been slowly teaching my girl about fly fishing. I think I'll probably take her for her first time fly fishing to one of the nearby bluegill ponds with a couple of 4wts and some of my trash flies. It'll be a good excuse to get out, we're guaranteed to catch something, she'll think they're cute, I'll get to touch her butt while others help her casts. It's a win all around.

>>1041823
*while I help her casts

My tablet just tried to cuck me.

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>>1041823
>I'll get to touch her butt
[insert awkward nervous chuckle]
anyways it took longer to get a picture with my potato phone than it took to tie

>>1041828
That looks great for bluegill. I'm gonna try one of those.

Should I be throwing my plastics weightless in the summer?

>>1041830
here's the recipie
>3/0 thread, any dark colour is fine
>start your thread anywhere, it doesnt matter
>leave the tag
>no lead wire or bead head, they cost too much and take too much time
>hella dubbing noodle
>wrap 2/3-3/4 of the way up the shank
>break the dubbing noodle
>tie in legs
>push dubbing noodle up
>cover thread wraps so it doesn't look like total trash
>that step is for you, not the fish
>wind to just in front of the legs
>segment with the tag end of thread, tie down, snip out
>use the last bit of dubbing to build up the last of the fly
>dont bother building up a head, just whip finish
>hella head cement so fish dont tear it up and make you tie more than two of the bastard things
>tfw waiting for the head cement to dry takes longer than tying the fly
>fish it with ecactly 0 fucks to give about it because it takes 40 seconds to tie and costs fuck all too
>tfw you could probably crank out a dozen in 7 minutes with time for a smoke after and sell them a dollar each to whoever's next to you
>tfw that would buy you enough dubbing and thread to crank out hundreds of them plus a pack of hooks
>tfw selling a dozen more of them will buy you enough hooks to tie hundreds of them

>>1041842
Skid show us your fly box

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>hands fall apart a week after handling saltwater bait fish
>Find out It's a disease
>May never be able to fish again

Someone please tell me there's a cure for this. I really like fishing, but I would have to limit it to once every 3 weeks with the rate my hands heal at.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratolysis_exfoliativa

>Another very common cause has been reported from salt water fishermen, who often suffer from these symptoms. It is not sure whether it is from the salt water or whether it is from some bacteria from fish

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>>1041906
>cure
become freshwater

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>>1041906

>>1041896
Which one?

>>1041942
>>1041896
Forgot trip

>>1041943
Any of them

>>1041938
Why would fisting himself cure his keratolysis?

>>1041842
Fuck yes! Thanks man.

Do most of the random lakes in the middle of nowhere in northern Ontario hold fish? I wanna take a camping trip to some crown land this summer and wanted to bring my kayak along to fish.

I've been out on some of these secluded lakes in the middle of the woods before in the UP that had absolutely nothing in them. Obviously they could have had fish, but I paddled around the lakes for hours trying to mark anything and didn't even get anything on my graph.

>>1041959
no problem
i imagine orange thread would look nice too

>>1041783
Use whatever's closest to what comes with it

>>1041802
Why the red on the tail?

>>1041906
Wear gloves and use lotion I guess. Use lip grippers and pliers to remove hooks.

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>>1041906
Wear fishing gloves, gaiters, and lighter long sleeves (like performance shirt pictured). Lip grippers are also your friend.

Try limiting your time on pure salt and move toward freshwater and brackish water more often as well. Hit salt flats or ocean once a month and hit the brackish and fresh the rest of the time.

>>1041963
I've got some brighter red that I wasted money on. I'll try tying it with that. Figure it can't hurt.

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>set a minnow on my line
>check it 10min later
>minnow gone, this lure with a steel leader attached to my hook

Did I get baited and switched by a fish?

>>1041984
literally bluegill flies are just to burn up material you regret buying that is cluttering your tying bench but you cant bring yourself to just throw away
>>1041987
its a gift from the gods

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>>1041946
Here's my streamer box, its mostly clousers

>>1042002
Can't catch it on a clouser then there's no fish in the water lol

My streamer box is mostly clousers and decievers. I use the majority of it for salt anyway.

>>1042007
>>1042007
if i could only have one pattern for the rest of my life, i would pick a wooly bugger, i have no doubt in my mind that tying a black or brown size 4 wooly bugger on a saltwater hook would catch a red fish, but my second pick would be the clouser minnow, because everything eats a minnow. my go-to carp fly is even a clouser minnow variant

>>1041838
Probably.
When the heat really comes on the fish will retreat back into the deeper water, but for the most part they'll be up higher in the water column, and that's where you want your bait to be too.
When in doubt, it's better to have your bait above the fish. Most fish will rise to strike a bait above them. Few fish will strike at a bait below them, often they won't even see it.

>>1041981
>Why the red on the tail?
Makes it look like there's blood trailing from the bait. Or at least that's what they say to fishermen in the tackle section with too much money in their pockets.

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>>1041838
Depends on the plastic and what you're doing with it.

>>1042021
I have success with weightless worms, but only ever caught stuff on baby brush hogs and lizards if it's weighted either Texas or Carolina. Does the technique change for creatures if they're weightless?

>>1041987
>Jitterbug
I'll take it. I love those things.
And they're awesome on summer evenings. When a bass explodes on one at sunset, it's about the most awesome feeling in the world.

>steel leader
Looks like somebody was fishing for Muskie. With the way the plating is all worn off it also looks like it's been underwater awhile.
I bet it still works good though.

>>1042010
Yeah buggers, clousers, and decievers are my favorite flies all around. I've caught a few reds on black wooly buggers. Those three patterns are so easily variable and will catch damn near anything.

>>1042027
i dont get why so many people obcess over complicated hyper realistic flies. 98% of the population isnt good enough for the fly to be the limiting factor. location, presentation, lure/fly, in that order. what you put in front of the fish is much less important than how you put it in front of a fish and weather or not its in front of a fish at all.

Are Yo-Zuri and Lucky Craft lures memes?

>>1042002
Nice

>>1042030
It just fly fisherman autism especially those who really dedicated themselves to it

>>1042023
The only thing I use weightless is flukes and senkos really.

I would rather use a 1/8 or 1/16oz with a worm (unless wacky rigged) or a creature and just give them big hops off the bottom until I find fish. I feel like I get 0 action otherwise.

But like the other anon said fish feed up, so if they don't see it fall they might not see it at all. On the flip side, bass are mostly going to be close to cover. So if you can find what they're hanging out around and cast to that they should see it. If they're cruising around out of cover they're usually feeding, so a moving bait would be a better option to use then imo.

The best advice I could give would to be go out and experiment with stuff until you find something you like.

>>1042020
Hmm. I would think you'd put it on the belly if you wanted it to look like the gills were bleeding, but I don't know if it really matters either way lol.

>>1041842
What size and style of hook?

>>1042030
This.

My second most productive fly for both trout and panfish is a chartreuse glo-ball.

Doesn't look like anything, doesn't act like anything.

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>>1042058
Lucky craft is not a meme,especially the japan-designed or japan-made ones


Idk about yo-zuri though. I heard they are pretty good but they keep raising their price and only add shiny coat of paints for their new lures and gimmick like 3d so that sound a bit meme-ish.

>>1042076
Sounds like stockie trouts that held over

>>1042072
any
i just happened to find a daiichi 1560 in size 12 for that particular one, but any hook in a size 14-10 should be fine, scud, dry fly, nymph, egg, who cares, its a bluegill fly
>>1042076
my single most productive fly is a pheasant tail nymph. all my trout have been on that, blue gill eat it, carp eat it, hell i even got a dink bass on it once

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I broke it again because why not. Hopefully my replacement top comes in soon. I'm going to keep the tip guide just in case it ever pops off the new one.

>get email from UPS
>your package has arrived
>the fuck did I order
>completely forgot about the reel I bought on Thursday

>>1041962
Yes. They'll probably have an overabundance of snek Pike in them. Or you might get lucky and have a lake with a proper population of bigguns and smalluns

>>1042030
I tend to favor flies that kinda resemble just about everything. I love tying realistic flies but sadly they end up seeing less use.
>>1042106
My most productive fly has been my blue wing olives. Trout everywhere I've been take to it and the bluegill absolutely seem to love it.

>>1042117
for dry flies it has to be an adams fly for me. if i could have 3 flies for the rest of history it would be an adams, a wooly bugger, and clouser minnows.

>>1042125
I follow a rule told to me by an old timer I fish with. "If it looks offensive then fish it." I like worm patterns, mop flies, and anything that a "purist" would puke at the sight of.

>>1042145
i like that. but yeah no ill fish anything i can cast.

Don't know if this is the right place or not but Im interested is getting an inflatable boat to fish around in a bit. I wouldnt brave choppy or fast flowing water in it since I doubt it would handle that, but something I can kinda padle around and fish from. Can't get a kayak since I don't have anything I can take it places with so I thought something inflatable would be a good idea since it can pack up nicely. My question is, are inflatable boats a good idea or am I just gonna end up getting myself killed. Also, any suggestions you guys might have?

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>>1042179
you probably wont get yourself killed, but you will probably get yourself soaking wet and leave your gear in the bottom of a lake
a kayak isnt hard to transport, just throw a few pool noodles on the roof of your car and tie it up there, or build a trailer for your bicycle
>pic related
if a girl can do it you can do it

I am going fishing in the Rhone near Avignon in a few days, and I can't find out what fish are in it, the only thing I found out is that Wels Catfish live in it, do if someone can help me find more info that would be great. Also I think there are Perch and "Black Bass" in the area, so I was wondering what lures I could use.

Spinners, Chatter bait, Jigs, 5 inch lipstickbait? Inline spinners? Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

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Caught a nice pike today

>>1042114
Drunk and stoned shopping is the best. Fucked up Zuriss has such interesting impulses.

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>>1042101
>mfw Luckycraft lures are so good they hook you when you don't even bite them

>>1042105
What I have local are stockies, yeah, but it's worked in both the west and northeast on native trout about as well as anything else I've fished.

My most productive fly is a Chernobyl Ant. I have them in everything from #16 to #4 and have caught everything from Dolly Varden trout to longnose gar with it.

>>1042106
Sweet thanks, think I could tie that on a #16 Daiichi scud hook?
>tfw need to buy more fly hooks
Need some hopper hooks at the minimum and would like to try tying wooly buggers.

My top 5 flies are, in order,
>Chernobyl Ant
>Glo-Ball
>San Juan Worm
>Parachute Adams
>Wooly Bugger
And the only reason the bugger doesn't rank higher is so much shit around here is too small for even small ones.

>>1042266
That's a wierd bluegill.

>>1042269
Foam bugs are a killer in the summer. #2 foam grasshopper slays a lot of bass

>>1042266
Foul hooked is illegal to keep where I'm from

Never fished a lizard before, so Texas or Carolina rig?

>>1042290
The ones I see people fish around here are Texas rigged.

>>1042272
those hooks should be fine, but its going to be a bit of a pain just because youre starting to get pretty small
im not sure what my top five flies are though

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who /fuzz-e-grub/ here

>>1042300
Them shits be da tits.

AKA, I like them.

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>>1042290
Whatever you're more comfortable with. As I suggest with all soft plastics go as light as you can with T-Rigs. Carolina rigs it doesn't matter.

>>1041987

Took my brother and 3 year old nephew fishing Sunday on a farm pond. My brother had just cast that same lure and let my nephew reel it in when a bass slammed it 5 feet from the shore. He freaked and ran with the rod, pulling the fish up on the bank in the process.

My nephew's first bass. 5 and a half pounds.

>>1042303
As light as I can with Texas rig, so like a 1/8 bullet?

>>1042286
That's a funny ass law. I mean it discourages people from purposely snagging fish, but at the same time they want you to release fish that are basically dead?!

>>1042317
Pretty much. You can go heavier if you need to keep it down, but it kills the action.

>>1042317
Or lighter.

I use a lot of 1/16oz Water Gremlin crimp-on bullet weights.

Basically go as light as you can without pulling it up out of the fishy zone. Since I fish a lot of shallow farm ponds and county parks (usually deepest spot is under 10') with relatively small, non-buoyant plastics I don't need much.

I am going fishing in the Rhone near Avignon in a few days, and I can't find out what fish are in it, the only thing I found out is that Wels Catfish live in it, do if someone can help me find more info that would be great. Also I think there are Perch and "Black Bass" in the area, so I was wondering what lures I could use.

Spinners, Chatter bait, Jigs, 5 inch lipped stickbait? Inline spinners? Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

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R8 my new rod and reel.

Dropped $110 on both items. I'm going to take it to Door county WI for a week starting tommorow.

>>1042334
It's a 3000 reel. Forgot to mention.

>>1042334
Did pretty okay on the rod, but I can't tell what reel that is.

>>1042346
Daiwa RG3000H-AB

>>1042316
Damn. Good job nephew.
Mine was 11 inches long. I wouldn't get my own 5-1/2 pounder for nearly 10 years, and when I landed it I freaked out too.

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>>1042317
Yep. If I want to go a little slower and the water is calm I'll use 1/8oz. If I'm pitching to cover or the water is a little rough I move up to 1/4oz. I normally don't go above that unless the water/wind is moving the lure around too much.

That's pretty much what I do for all plastics except craw type lures. For some reason I generally like to use heavier weights with those.

>>1042331
All of what you listed will catch bass and should work for perch too.

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I had a pretty good day caught about 20 small mouths in this creek near my house most of them pretty small this one being the biggest. It was still a blast though.

>>1042378
Nigga that's a Green sunfish iinm

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Anyone have experience with the Sun Dolphin Sportsman bass boat? Or similar?

>>1042392
I sell them and I've been in them a few times, is there anything in particular you wanna know?

>>1042399
They seem perfect in every aspect. They can get you out on the water without dropping thousands of dollars on a regular boat and trailer. Hell, from my readings I hear that they can be mounted on top of cars. What's the catch?

>>1042380
well alot of them were smallmouth for sure but i dont know about the one in the pic.

>>1042384
what's the point of a chatroom for a chatroom

>>1042407
>what's the catch?
They're heavy and awkward enough that getting them on and off a car requires 2 fairly strong, tall people.

They are pretty much trolling motor required, you can in theory paddle them but you'll be getting nowhere slowly.

They get blown around by gnat farts due to a high profile and nothing even remotely resembling a keel, again either trolling motor or anchor required.

While it has the weight capacity to hold 2 full-grown adults (assuming they aren't both hamplanets), it's short enough one or both of them won't be able to cast.

>some other upsides
It fits pretty much perfectly in a truck bed, even "compact" trucks like the Ranger/Colorado/Tacoma. Rides between the wheel well on full-sized trucks and over the wheel well but below the top of the bed on even the smallest compact trucks.

Pre-rigged (including battery lines) for either or both front and rear trolling motor.

Seats are comfy, and swivel, and can be adjusted front to back in a track.

Insanely stable, with 2 people in the boat one can stand on the gunwale and not tip the thing, or with 1 person in the boat a skinny person can stand on the gunwale and not tip the thing.

Hull is durable AF, will take a lifetime of being drug around gravel parking lots and across unimproved shores so you don't have to drop it off right at a boat ramp.

Can actually be fairly speedy with a 35-45lb thrust trolling motor

Excellent storage and organization for its size.

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What's everyone's opinion on PenFishingRods? They look great but their warranty makes them sound like they're weak little shits and would be no different to the cheap $5 dollar ones on Amazon.

Fishing southwestern Ontario this week, what lures or baits should I pick up from Canadian Tire tomorrow?
I don't want to tell you guys what exactly I'm fishing for, because I'm looking for a challenge.

>>1042524
>going fishing
>won't tell us what for
>wants lure ideas
I hear fish like 4oz egg sinkers. You should fish with those. Put them under a small bobber for maximum action

>>1042496
Ask yourself why you even need one that small anyways

>>1042621
My therapist says I'm probably compensating for something.

>>1042626
kek.

Well, if you do get it, be sure to wiggle it at strangers then.

>>1042496
>be me
>get one for christmas
>think "well this is an interesting idea"
>thank my aunt and uncle
>fast forward to spring
>spool it with 4 pound mono
>take it out fishing
>catch a dink bluegill
>"i guess this thing does work"
>something big hits my bait, presumable bass
>the drag seizes on the reel instantly
>the rod breaks
>then the line breaks
>tfw zebco brand 4 pound mono is stronger than that rod
dont waste your money
>>1042524
the smallest squarebill crank they have

Yesterday evening, I was casting a baby torpedo into the shallowest part of a pond, and I caught four bass in about fifteen minutes. That was fuckin sick, but the problem is, a bass would miss it every three or four casts, so I really could've had like ten of them had they all hit it. How can I make it easier for bass to hit my topwater lures? I slowed down my twitch cadence a lot after the first few misses, but they still missed it even on pause.

>>1042666
bass are just spergs
try pausing from time to time?

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>>1042678

>>1042597
kek
>>1042524
Can't go wrong with a Red/White spinner. Inline and regular. Also some imitation baitfish type crank.

>>1042666
Satan, keep in mind that some of those miss hits were probably the same ones that you ended up catching.

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>>1042412
Those must have been absolutly tiny smallmouth if that sunfish was the biggest you caught. Still probably fun though
>>1042524
Drop shot a robo worm in morning dawn color

>>1042439
So for one man operation a kayak would probably be better considering that I have a hatchback and not a truck?

>>1042770
>hatchback
Yeah a kayak would be much easier for you.

>>1042186
>if a girl can do it...
That looks like a super light sit in.
>>1042125
>adams, a wooly bugger, and clouser minnows
I'd 2nd this
>>1042770
>kayak
infinitely

>>1042496
I wanna get one, I heard if you make a video review on them they'll send you one for free

>>1042774
>>1042794
Thanks anons. Dick's is having a boat sale currently so a $180 kayak will definitely fit my budget

>>1042798
Be advised: I bought a Pelican Icon 10' kayak for around $350 just to get in the game. After about 6 months/20 trips the thing started taking on water, turns out the hull had separated at the real scupper holes. It to 2 weeks of correspondence with Pelican and my local Academy to get credited for it. I upgraded to the Perception Pescador 12. My advise is to get a boat with a one-piece hull.

>>1042804
rear*

>>1042699
Yea the creek was really small only about 8 feet wide

I've always used 3/0 hooks because that's what everyone else uses, but is there a reason to not use 2/0 or 1/0?

>>1042870
For what?

anybody ever crafted their own fishing pole, string, hook, and bait?

>>1042874
Soft plastics. There's hardly a difference in size and if anything using a 1/0 should get more action since it takes up less of the lure.

>>1042879
Oh yeah down sizing hooks are pretty good to give plastics more action.

>>1042881
Then why is 3/0 such a meme?

>>1042804
The $180 kayak Dick's sells (Trailblazer 100) is a sit-in, even if the upper deck separates from the lower deck it won't take on water because the seam is well above the water line.

Also I've never seen one do that.
>>1042798
Highly advise looking at one of the sit-on's or at least the Future Beach Fusion 100 if you're looking at kayaks from Dick's and intend to fish out of it. The Trailblazer will hold up to modest recreational use but is so barren on features it would require extensive modification to be worth fishing out of. Also the backrest kinda sucks.

t. Dick's employee

>>1042883
Higher hookup ratio as it will bit shorter striking fish, and will work "well enough" for everything from 4" stick baits to 18" snakes and eels so people can only worry about stocking 1 hook size across their whole range of plastics. Also keep in mind an EWG will lose shank length compared to a standard offset worm hook, so a 3/0 EWG will be about the same length as a 1/0 offset shank.

Then again I rarely miss fish with a nose-hooked worm fished Carolina or dropshotted, bass tend to inhale the whole thing.

>>1042888
I almost exclusively use 4 inch senkos and finesse worms with an occasional 5 inch lizard, so I guess I'll give 1/0 EWGs a try. Like you said they inhale anyways.

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Alright guys which color variation do you all prefer?

>>1042881
>>1042879
>and if anything using a 1/0 should get more action since it takes up less of the lure.

I disagree with this statement for 6" + lures

>>1042898
How big is too big?

>>1042909
I regularly use 4/0 hooks with 6" plastics.
3/0 also works, but it is a bit small for the way I fish them. For 3-4" plastics, I use 2/0 hooks.

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This thread is for /cute/ fish only

>>1042895
What ever is cheaper

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>>1042928

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>>1042932

>>1042909
If you look at it and think "Skid would use this", don't use it.

>>1042932
What brand and model is that worm?

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>>1042909
from 2/0 to 4/0 there really isnt much of a difference.

>>1042954
Looks like only the width of the gap is bigger.

>>1042953
Roboworm brand Roboworm in morning dawn.

>>1042909
I'd say anything bigger than 5/0 is unnecessary 95% of the time. Otherwise I use 4/0 a lot then go down if that won't fit/hurts the action.

>>1042955
That depends on the manufacturer. Some measure the gap and some measure length some do both.

>>1042883
Because fish's mouths are only so big, and they tend to strike long baits like soft plastics short. A bigger hook means less lost fish to short strikes (and/or less waiting for the fish to keep eating the bait before you can set the hook), but also less action. A 3/0 provides a nice balance between action and length, especially for rigging standard 6" worms. But you can definitely use 1/0s for smaller things like 4" worms, and I have to great effect.

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what fishing line does >>>/out/ use

>>1042976
P-line copolymer for bass and general purpose fishing.

Power Pro for saltwater, deep water, and heavy cover bass/pike (or when I'm lazy or fishing a particularly expensive or rare lure).

Trilene XL for trout and panfish because it's cheap and works with ultralight spinning reels better than anything else I've tried.

Either Trilene XL or Rio mono tippet material for 99% of my flyfishing tippet, depending on how trusting the fish are and how lazy I am.

Scientific Anglers fluoro tippet for spooky trout.

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>>1042976

>>1042976
Suffix 832
Pline copolymer
Seaguar flouro
Some power pro

>>1042976
Stren or Trilene 4lb. It's decent and at Walmart.

>>1042886
I was looking at the Pelican Bandit 100 and will eventually do my own upgrades

>>1043002
Ohh. Forgot those were on sale too, we've been out for a while.

That would be a good one to start with, just don't expect to be able to stand up and fish from it. It's too short and too narrow.

Highly recommend your first upgrade be the backrest. A cheap screw-on rod holder and a $5 DIY anchor trolley will get you fishing, the nice open tankwell will hold plenty, and the thing is over-all quite light.

How can I shorefish a small river in Michigan effectively? I have a compost pile full of crawlers I can use. How can I rig those?

>>1043010
What do you want to catch? How fast is the current? How deep is the river 20, 30, and 40 feet from whichever segment of bank you want to fish? Do you have a rod capable of casting much further than 50 feet?

>>1043014
I think it's like 10 foot deep tops. Current is pretty average I'd say.

>>1043004
What if I'm a sub-150 pound lanklet?

>>1042976
power pro 20, 40, or 50 lb braid with fluro or mono leader ranging from 15-75 lb

>>1043023
It's more about balance than anything, but it will help somewhat.
>>1043021
Okay, so...What do you want to catch?

In average current and generally shallow water you could simply soak the worms on a #6-#4 baitholder a couple feet under a bobber with a couple #BB sized split shot, and have a fair chance at bigger sunfish, stupid LMB/SMB/perch, channel cats, and bullheads. Pretty no-brainer setup, but not the most productive.

If you want specifically catfish, throw a 1/2-1oz egg sinker above a swivel, then 1-3 feet of line below the swivel to a #2/0-3/0 circle hook with the worm on it, and tight-line it on the bottom. That will do bullhead, channel cats, and the occasional blue or flathead.

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only fish I caught today...

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>>1043042
The dam compared to less pressured spots on the river has been lacking. Even for a river I think pressure is a major factor.

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pls be nice to the fish guys

>>1043045
I try to see how many backflips it can do before hitting the water.

>>1043051
why not just keep it then if youre just going to practically kill it then throw it back?
at least get some good eats then my dude

>>1043055
I was just memeing for the (you)s

Every time I watch a youtube video they're either using fluorocarbon or braid, even braid that's only 10lbs. Is there a reason why no one seems to use mono?

>>1043060
Flouro and braid are better

>>1043062
I don't think I have much use for braid, so what's the best flouro?

>>1043056
oh ok cool
im glad its working here is another

>>1043060
mono is too hard to get unsnagged imo

it stretches too much and has really bad sensitivity

also it twists like it was made to twist

>>1043064
Braid anyways

>>1043071
I'm using a rod with micro guides, so will the leader being tied to the braid be okay going through them, or would you suggest tying braid directly to a crank?

>>1043064
Seaguar is a top contender.

>>1043079
Just regular red label or something else?

>>1043081
That's all I've ever used, it's served me well.

>>1043082
Thank you

>>1043067
>too hard to get unsnagged
I've never really felt like any lures I've lost I wouldn't have with fluoro or comparable strength braid (though going up a *lot* in braid strength has saved dozens of lures for me).

Mono has the advantages of being:
>cheap
>readily available literally anywhere
>handling like a dream compared to fluoro

Line stretch is a nonissue where I live since the absolute deepest I'll ever fish is around 15 feet, but I can see it being an issue elsewhere.

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>>1042797

I actually have one coming in the mail, if it breaks I'll record myself pissing on the rod.

>>1043064
Seaguar is what I use for flouro, but if you have a spinning reel you definitely have a use for braid.

>>1043076
Learn the FG knot if you want to use a leader, but braid straight the crank will work as long as you have a good cranking rod. Go a little looser on the drag too.

Honestly mono for cranks is perfectly fine. I like the way copolymer handles better though, so that might be worth a shot. I don't think you'll see a huge improvement in actually catching fish if your main use is for crankin. Braid and Flouro really shine where you need more sensitivity.

Just a note, if you're going to go with flouro I wouldn't suggest it on a spinning reel and don't go lower than 12# on a casting reel.

>>1043112
I'm poor and only have one setup which is a Medium power with a baitcaster, so could I realistically use braid for everything assuming I'd just use a flouro leader for finesse applications like a weightless Senko?

>>1043118
Absolutely. I did it for years with no issues.

Hell I've done finesse presentations with straight braid as well, still catch fish. Unless you're fishing EXTREMELY clear water or very heavily pressured fish a fluoro leader probably won't make a difference.

>>1043118
I'd go with 20# braid. You can go lighter if you want, but there isn't really a reason to. Also, a leader isn't really necessary for anything if you're fishing for bass.

The only reason I use a leader on spinning reels is to save line from retying since the amount of line on your reel effects casting distance a whole lot more than it does casting reels.

>>1043125
>>1043127
Alright I'll buy some Suffix 832 in 20lbs soon. I'm going to assume that my reel can fit all 150yds of it since it's so thin.
Only thing left to get an opinion on is should I put some backing on it or just tie directly to the reel?

>>1043129
What reel do you have? If it's a fairly large one (2500-4500 size) you'll probably need backing to get it anywhere close to full.

>>1043131
I have an Okuma Stratus V which advertises as holding 160yds of 10lbs mono, so 150yds of what is equivalent to 8lbs mono should all fit no problem, and even if it comes up short a little I find that I cast better when my reel is holding less than what's considered standard.

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Who here fishes with their bf?

>>1043135
eyyy Stratus V. Those are great reels.

Yeah, just spool the line straight to the reel. They hold 140 yards of 30lb Power Pro at full capacity but no reason to fill a baitcaster to its max.

I just have to share this
https://www.instagram.com/rubbishlure/

I want one.

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>>1043232
i want a lure like pic related

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i need worms. like a good bucket full. (earth worms please)

what's the best way to hunt them?

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Caught my fist fee on a topwater yesterday. Front treble hook was buried pretty good, and I got the rear one stuck in my pants when I grabbed him. Had to waddle back to the car to get my pliers. Definitely going to try more topwater stuff.

>>1043270
With a pitchfork.
Stick the pitchfork into the ground and wiggle the handle for a few minutes. You should see any worms within about 5 feet of the pitchfork rising to the surface to escape what they think are nearby moles looking to eat them.
It's the same concept behind worm grunting.
https://youtu.be/3ILoGcSxCAY

As you might expect, this works better in places where you can see the ground like freshly mown grass or bare earth.

>>1043270
>5gallon bucket
>Put Dawn fish soap in
>Full with water
>Mix
>Pour on ground
This is easy and should yield good results

>>1043281
This work pretty well, sucky part is lugging soapy water to a good spot

>>1043281
>fish soap
Anyway, yes this works.

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>>1043281
my compadre

>>1043281
Still not as fun as the extension cord and metal rod

>>1042179
How about you get your life in order and get a car and stop day dreaming

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First fish ever caught on a lizard (zoom plum crazy) for me. Caught on my 5th cast hopefully the rest of the morning is this good.

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>build a nice full tacklebox with a good variety of lures
>end up catching everything on this single chartreuse spinner
At least I got a nice 5 pound LMB on it.
[spoiler]also fuck pickerel[/spoiler]

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>he doesn't throw a PubeFly

>>1043333

At least put the fish on wet grass mane wtf anon. It will be hard for it to regen all that mucus on the skin

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>>1043359

>that hoes fine buh buh these ones a killa

>>1043368
I did and it started to thrash and flopped right into that pile. I tried.

>>1043352
Fuck you mane I wish I could get pickerel to bite

>>1043371

Aye know how that can be. I grant you this one pardon use it wisely.

Do you guys ever have to deal with people asking for your fish when you catch/release?

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Dinksquad this morning. It was raining hard, but decided to go out anyways since my normal spot on this river has good coverage.
>>1043386
Always Mexicans, especially their kids since they're the ones that speak English.

new to catfishing

whats a basic rig i can use to river and lake fish? like size lead. hook / hook size ect

>>1043274
Heard a great story last night...
>Friend sees some (insert ethnicity) fishing.
>Hears scream and ebonics
>kid hooked finger good, buried way past the barb
>no cutters
>fish still on treble
>bloodcurdlingscream.mp3
>kid now has fish on, 1st hook still in one hand, other treble now buried in other hand.

>>1043386
>people asking for your fish when they're undersized
Here it's Wampanog's. I get it, they are native, they don't have size or take limits but no way in hell I'm giving them a 20-27" striper. Back in the water it goes and I get called all sorts of shit.

>>1043408
Ooh. Been there.
>be teenager
>fishing some random crankbait
>catch a small channel cat
>first catfish ever
>promply spine myself with pec spine
>flinch real hard from that and bury rear treble in web between middle and ring finger
>freaking out now, grab catfish and promptly spine myself again

Anyone ever use a Penn Squall LW? Was thinking of getting one, would it cast well as long as I had enough weight?

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>>1043460

>>1043372
If you can't get a pickerel to bite you're doing something terribly wrong, the fuckers go for anything that moves. Use bright and flashy shit like spinners and spoons then crank em in pretty fast.

>>1043480
Actually not what I meant. There aren't any pickerel in my local creeks or lakes. Only giant pike/musky in two large reservoirs. The closest pickerel spot is 40 minutes away

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Caught this 30 minutes ago off my dock on lake michigan.

How much do you guys think it weighs?

>>1043399
just carolina rig a circle hook

weight depends on the current

>>1043488
3.50lbs

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>>1043399
Pic related.
Works for almost any situation.

>>1043433
dont catfish have venom in their spines? that must have hurt like a bitch

>>1043495
Not him, but anytime I've been spined I just get an itchy sensation where I've been cut. Honestly jellyfish are worse than catfish.

I saw some waves moving on the water yesterday but they were super fast and I couldn't see the fish (kinda muddy)

how big does a fish have to be to make waves on the surface when you can't even see it

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6 inch pumpkinseed, biggest one I've seen in a long time. Sometimes it feels good going back to baby level fishing.

>>1043499
i caught a really fat rockbass yesterday, I think they're spawning in my area

they're fun to catch even if they're kinda small

>>1043499
nice, glad it uploaded sideways and upside down

>>1043502
my galaxy s7 does that too

I don't know how to fix it they look fine in the thumbnail but when I upload them anywhere they're flipped

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>>1043503
Go into your photo album and flip it sideways, save it, then flip the correct way again and save it.

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So there's a lot of round goby over the piers and docks by me in lake michigan and I'm wondering should I kill them and throw them out or use them as bait for walleye and such?

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>>1043505
That's a chubby lookin fish.

>>1043333
Learn how to handle a fish properly Jesus Christ. Good chance you just fucking killed that thing because you're a dumbass, nice job

>>1043508
sometimes they slip and there's nothing you can do

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>>1043485
If they are bigger than 30 inches your chances of catching them from shore this time of year are slim to none. The big boys go out to big, deep water where they will stay until winter

Pic related is a dink from my Canada trip. Finally got all the pics from that lady

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>>1043507
I caught that one last fall iirc. Probably fat from all the shad spawning.

>>1043495

Channel catfish, blues, and yellows don't. I think bullheads do.

Gafftops and hardheads definitely do and they hurt like a motherfucker.

i can't stop thinking about fishing

i think i have a problem

>>1043549
Fishing is a lifestyle, not a hobby

Are Black Bullheads a good game? These are an invasive species here (I'm from Europe) and I am thinking in catch them and cook them as you americans do with catfishs. Do they taste good? The lack of info in YouTube makes think these catfish aren't good for eat and fish.

What kind of bait do you recommend me for catching them in a river full of eels, carps, mullets, barbels and largemouth bass?

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>>1043359
But I do throw a pubefly.

And mine are actually made from pubes.

>>1043549
I can't stop thinking about girl and it makes it difficult to get out fishing

I do have a problem. Shit is seriously annoying. That's why I haven't posted shit for dinks lately.

>>1043495
Yes, technically all catfish have venomous spines.

However, some species are worse than others, and channel cats are fortunately pretty mild.

>>1043498
Really really small.

Dink bluegill do it all the damn time.

>>1043557
thats another problem i have... driving can be dangerous for me in the summer

luckily i have extreme anxiety so i never embarrass myself by talking to them

>>1043553

They taste fine. They don't get very large (2-3 lbs is considered big) and as a result don't put up as much of a fight as other catfish and aren't generally considered gamefish in the US. They're commonly farmed for their meat though.

>>1043553
Yeah. They fight okay for their size (which isn't huge, especially compared to other catfish) and they taste like other catfish--IE, mild.

Bullhead in the US are considered a "kid's fish" and are commonly stocked in county parks and youth ponds because they're easy to catch on light tackle with simple rigs.

You would do well with a worm/cricket/(live) grub or other small live bait soaking under a bobber on like a #1 circle hook, or if you have more than token current due to being a river a standard catfish slip sinker rig would work.

>all these freshwater posts

damn. sorry guys.

>>1043557
Easy solution: Become homosex.

>>1043594
I'm in Oklahoma right now. I can feel my self becoming more and more homosex each minute that passes.

>>1043595
Just beware of strangers selling drugs next to gas stations. It's not known as Cokelahoma for no reason.

Also, stuck in Missouri, I feel like if I stay here long enough the livestock will start to look attractive. Fortunately I have no sisters or cousins or that could be a problem.

>>1043595
>>1043598
I live in Oklahoma and it a perfectly fine place as long as you avoid east Oklahoma city and north Tulsa.

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>>1043564
Lel. And my anxiety is what makes this shit all so annoying. Just stay away and watch porn. Since the beginning, I will finally convince myself to calm down and ignore girl a little bit for a few days and then she says or does some shit that pulls me back in. It's strange, like I said in all my bitching and blogposts that she is super fucking picky and looking for these certain things but the longer we hang out, some shit keeps bringing us back together even tho we were both looking for reasons to break it off.

>>1043594
I have thought about it, but I think it's more complicated.

>>1043598
You should probably get out of Missouri. I'm so happy I left IL. But I think one day if I ever make it old enough to retire, I will end up on a lake in MN or northern WI trying to get the fuck away from everybody.

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>>1043499
My nigga

Was fishing for gills with a rooster tail today when some kids showed up with Texas rigged lizards
>Catching anything?
>yep, caught four so far already
>what are you using?
>little rooster tail
>anything big?
>just panfish
They went around me still fishing their lizards and not catching anything while I caught two more then went home.

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>>1043506

>>1043608
I'm technically already retired, but my end goal is a couple hundred acres of land in WY. I like fishing, but it's mainly just something to get me /out/ when there's nothing to hunt.

>>1043620
Yeah I wouldn't complain with a couple hundred acres anywhere. Just buy a riding lawnmower and there will always be something to do.

>>1043598
>stuck in Misery
That explains a lot.

>>1043608
You know what the solution is.
It involves tackle, her landing you and lots of flopping around

>>1043595
>"Occupied North Texas"

Shower before you come back home.

>>1043598
Meh I'd do coke if I lived here too

>>1043601
Y'all roll y'alls joints too skinny

>>1043635
Kek I'm in Kansas now no worries.

>>1042895
depends. id say black usually but red for minnow patterns, but it really doesnt matter much
>>1042928
sir nibblesworth 2.0
>>1042976
power pro mainly, suffix superior a lot, berkly trilene a lot
>>1043076
tie an fg knot, look it up
>>1043118
yeah
>>1043142
my bf doesnt like fishing that much
>>1043549
thats normal, go fishing

>>1043549
i want to go fish but there's no good fishing spots around me and I also have really shitty equipment

I am about to get into fishing. I am doing a fishery internship and it has me pumped to catch fish. I live in a great are for it too; north central Arkansas. I'm pumped.

>>1043657
Drive farther. Find the good local holes. And sell drugs so you can afford better gear.

>>1043660
Don't meet a girl

>>1043663
What do I do if I already have a wife?

>>1043666
Sell her or use her for bait.

>>1043666
That's different, and you know why.
>LOVE, noun. A temporary insanity curable by marriage.

Have fun going fishing to escape your wife.

>>1043666
I ignore mine and hope she goes away. So far it has not worked but I hold to hope.

>>1043668
>>1043689
How many monies for your wives?

>>1043692
How many gallons of nightcrawlers do you have?

>>1043692
Yes

>>1043692
>Passes through Oklahoma
>Already wants to pimp out Ol'Ladys

Shower twice, it still clings to you.

>>1043692
Will you take my kids too?

>>1043694
I'll give you like 4oz of them

>>1043700
Hmu anon

>>1043701
Well I mean if you don't want em...

>>1043703
Are they old enough for manual labor?

>>1043704
Buy
>>1043703 's kids and make them dig worms for me. 6 gallons and my wife is available.

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Who here /hooked/ themselves?

>>1043708
Not recently, thankfully.

Earlier this spring I sank a Gama 4/0 EWG all the way to the bend in my wrist, was carrying my rod to the lake when someone's dog bowled me over while chasing a squirrel and I fell on it.

>>1043708
never intentionally, but im glad i crush most of my barbs and know how to remove barbed hooks

>>1043703
yes, he will

>>1043715
Ouch. This was just a lil guy. I'm more mad that they threw away my spoon.

>>1043726
You know, I was thinking about doing just that a few days ago. Regretting not doing it now

>>1043728
i honestly think it improves hookup if you do it right. i think the hook penetrates easier, especially through bone, so you get a solid hook up on bony-mouthed fish i think, as long as you keep pressure on them
go crush your barbs lol, especially treble hooks

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What do you guys think of this rig I made? I poke a hole in the head of the tube bait and stick a piece of line through it, then slide a 1/4oz slip weight on, and tie the end to a 4/0 treble hook. Then I just push it it forward inside the tube and the hook shoves the weight up inside the body.

>>1043707
>6 gallons (of worms) and my wife is available.
If the internet has taught me anything, it is that if an anon wants 6 gallons of worms as payment for his wife. Then that anon has a worm kink. I for one would like to hear more.

>>1043707
You got a deal mi amigo

>>1043739
Kinda neat actually

>tfw having a shitty week
>go fishing at local lake
>catch 2 nice bass watcha nice sunset
>feels good man
> :)

>>1043757
:)

I've only ever fished neighborhood ponds, but I'm within 20mins of a large lake with a lot of bass. Is it the same as bank fishing a pond or is there different stuff I need to know?

>>1043760
The number 1 rule to success is to seek out and ask the regulars who frequent the area what they use and what works best for them. Thanks to asking a tackle shop clerk what to use, I caught a 5 pound bass today with the lure he recommended.

>>1043318
How about you stop being a faggot. I have a car with no roof rack or trailer hitch or anchor points to do the pool noodle tying thing, got no way to carry a yak safely.

>>1042186
Sadly I don't have any way to even tie one up on my car, no roof rack or trailer hitch. I have a small econocar with a smooth curved roof. Roof racks for my car cost more than a yak lol.

>>1043798
If you have a 4-door you can literally run ratchet straps through the door frames to hold a yak (on pool noodles ofc) to the roof.

If you have a 2-door econobox, wtf were you thinking when you bought the damn thing?

>>1043799
>>1043798
+1

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Can someone tell me how much this probably weighs?

Also, what do you guys use to measure and weigh with? I need something small to pack.

>>1043803
About tree fiddy

>>1043803
i use a kitchen scale and weigh it after it's dead

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is this a good reel?

which size should i get?

>>1043506
>use them as bait for walleye and such?
This

>>1043814
What are you tryin to do with it? What weight line?

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>>1043814
This is better.

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>>1043997

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>>1041773
How do Peacocks taste?

Are they any better than Black Bass?

>>1044006
Apparently they taste like grouper.
Have fun cooking it up, anon

>>1043997
>Quebec isn't allowed in my world
You should let them in, anon.
The /out/ing opportunities are abundant, and I hear in Montreal
>je suis Americain
Is the best pickup line there is.

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If your girl catches more fish than you, does that mean you got fish cucked?

>>1044039
I always catch more but she gets bigger ones. I always feel cucked

>>1044041
Well she caught you big boy :^)

>>1044039
Just means you need to get better at wiggling your worm.

>>1044046
And he caught the clap

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Reddy reddy reddy...

>>1044051
great perch

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>>1044048
Haha, I suppose so. Was the first time I took a girl fishing with me. It was different but nice. It was fun watching her get excited at hooking a fish and going crazy when it was breaking water.

>>1044051
Do perch not get very far south?

I've literally never caught one.

>>1044078
Yellow perch don't, no. Middle of Iowa in the Mississippi River is about as south as they get.

There are other species of perch in the US though, that are mostly coastal tributaries but they get as far south as Georgia.

New bread in the oven...

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>>1044094
>>1044094
>>1044094
>>1044094

>>1044095
Bump