Fishing & Tackle Thread

>>1026725
>tfw tackle warehouse says orders will be possibly delayed due to large order volume and down time from the holiday weekend

:'(

>>1026725
She is so happy about that fish her right eyebrow shifted over.

For those that do drop shot, do you vary the length of your drop or do ya'll tie it about the same every time?

Is there a functional difference between a dropshot rig and a splitshot rig?

really wanna go fishing but it's supposed to rain for the next week ugh

>>1026785
So fish in the rain.

You have a rainsuit, right?

>>1026790
s-sure... haha

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First decent catch of the season for me

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Amazon's deal of the day includes Penn Battle 2 reels 20%off in case anyone needs a new reel

>>1026805
what's with the gloves?

>>1026808
So I have one clean hand that I can wipe sweat out of my eyes and nose with.

>>1026811
Bring a rag next time just for your face.

>>1026813
...and one for his verginer

>>1026728
...and this is why big outdoors stores don't run fishing gear sales now. It's peak season-they have a hard enough time staying stocked as it is.

>>1026808
It's so the fish doesn't get a UTI.

>>1026846
You mean like the sale cabelas just had on fishing stuff?

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Laker from camping trip last week, ~24" caught trolling a Rapala DT16 crankbait. Might be last shallow water lake trout of the season for me.

>>1026805
>dink
>decent
Keep at it, soon you'll get an 18 incher

>>1026749
Fucking kek

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who /pees in their waders/ here?

>>1026790
Our storms are pretty violent, only idiots and storm chasers would be out in this.

>>1026725
>korn
kys

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>>1026889
STOP WITH THIS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>1026811
>not wiping anyway
If you don't come home smelling like fish then you weren't really fishing. It's war paint, just like pussy.

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>>1026889
just no

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>>1026892
>>1026894

>>1026564
I caught my biggest Flathead (42lbs) in a hole/bend in the river where I had been throwing hotdogs on minihooks for Gills just an hour before.
>>1026575
Nigger please I pull 40+ Pike for a week straight in Ontario. And I'm one of the few Northern IL fags that even realizes we can catch big Flatheads up here The memecaster has it's purposes
>>1026649
Because I'm an asshole but am also concerned about anon's quality of life. If he lives longer he can continue to shower us with fish

>>1026811
Jesus.
>Not giving your nice catches a cheeky kiss
>Not getting your hand nice and fish slime smelly
>Not enjoying the aesthetic of a good ol Bass Thumb

>ever expecting to ascend to Valhalla

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Hey, I missed a few threads because I was sitting on a bridge and some cops decided I was trying to kill myself so I got pink slipped, then the mental hospital decided to keep me for a little longer to milk all the money they could out of it. I got this smallie on a black and blue jig that day though
Sorry for the blog post

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>>1026907
>I was sitting on a bridge and some cops decided I was trying to kill myself so I got pink slipped, then the mental hospital decided to keep me for a little longer to milk all the money they could out of it.
literally wat? skid you ok broski?

>>1026909
yeah, im fine, i was just chilling there, watching the water flow, and i jumped off to start walking to my bike, and this cop stops me and starts a spanish inquisition, then an ambulance comes by and they make me go to a hospital, saying "you have to go and talk to a person from crisis aversion then you can go home" but instead i get locked in a room for 5 hours with no-one to talk to, then some nurse comes in and says "this says we are taking you to a mental hospital in willoughby" and i said "what if i dont sign?" and she said "then ill sign it for you" and i was like "well if im getting kidnapped, i guess ill just go peacefully so i wont get legal charges on top of it" and then i was essentially in jail for a week. its fucked. i mean im back on my old meds now, but still, fuck

>>1026889
Why do you keep wetting yourself, anon?

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>>1026907
Jesus Christ. These kind of post are why I like you being in these threads.

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>>1026919
oh o-ok. glad to hear things are good. do take care of yourself bud.

>>1026936
>I like you being in these threads.
thanks TX
>>1026941
i have been, though i need to do laundry and pick up my bike

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>>1026903
Thanks for the concern. I've lost 55 lbs so far. I'm still fat and catch fish but I could definitely use to loose 100lbs more pounds. I need to before getting heavy into Surf Fishing/Saltwater. Of course I want to still fish when I'm 70+ I just like riling up salty Lanklets.
Flatheads are the TITS. All the water around me is too flooded and raging to go for them. Its shitty because this is my most productive time (for numbers) of year for Mudcats. I've just been doing shitty pond hoping and catching dinks.

>>1026983
>I could definitely use to loose 100lbs more pounds
same, but if i lost 70-80 id be happy. i should go to a gym but no one to go with, and i hate going alone because then i have to ask people to spot me if im lifting weights

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>>1026903
>>1026983
Fall, for me, is when the giants are more easy to catch.

How the fuck do you hold bass? I can't get a grip on them because they're so slimey. I've lost count of how many times one has squirmed out of my grip and fallen to the ground.

>>1027019
>bass
>slimy

Wew. Hold a speck or a carp then get back to me.

But to answer your question, grab em by the jaw

>>1026866
>DT16
>shallow
Nigga do you normally use downriggers or some shit?

>>1026889
I pee in other people's waders.

Wanna go fishing together anon?

>>1027019
Lip them. They dont really have teeth.

>>1026987
I'm only about 190 but have 20-25lbs to lose before I'd be really happy.

I don't want to go to the gym because I can't afford to put any more muscle on. I was super huge and ripped in college because of football but I had to get a knee replacement at 27 and the less I weigh the longer it'll last.

Also my neck is still huge as shit and finding polos or dress shirts I can get buttoned all the way without looking like a circus tent in the body is impossible

>>1027043
>>1027019
they do have sand paper feeling teeth, but your thumb will be calloused over quickly, and its only a problem with bigger bass

is pees in their waders guy actually skid

>>1026907
What. The. Fuck.

>>1027050
Even bigger bass, just lip em and quit being a pussy.

>>1027107
no

>>1027111
when you lip a 4 pound bass and he shakes hard, he digs your thumb pretty good

>>1027112
pretty convenient...

>>1027114
Stop having vaginas for thumbs mebbe.

>>1026907
>decided to keep me for a little longer to milk all the money they could out of it.

Answering your Rorschach test as seeing animal butts probably added a couple days.

>>1027026
Fuck that hold a gafftop.

>>1027114
Niqqa do some deadlifts and increase that gripstrength

>>1027185
IL anon is my favorite tripfag now

>>1027185
Well he tried doing chin ups from a bridge and got sent to the looney bin.

>>1027201
10/10

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>>1027139
But the Chihuahuas are pooping on the frogs...it's right there...

>>1027019

They sell fish grips for just this purpose. More useful for bitey/toothy fish though. With bass and the like, just grab them by the bottom lip.

Try to avoid the gills.

>>1027272
Anon you know danm well that is a corgi ass...danm dirty slut of a corgi...little bitch wants her boi pussy filled with weresalmon cock.

>>1027286
>>1027272
The fuck is wrong with you two?

>>1027312
>Alcoholism
>ADHD
>Sociopathic tendencies
>Years spent on /b/
>Warped sense of humor

Pick a few of them.

Also does anyone have a suggestion for crimping pliers? I am going to make up a batch of shark leaders.

>>1027338
Spring for real Lineman's pliers.
If you need to twist and cut wire, they are worth their weight in gold.

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Memorial day weekend was fun. This was my best.

i'm using 10 lb fluorocarbon on my spinning reel and it gets tangled up frequently

should i just switch to braided?

>>1027142
This. Those are slimy ass fucks.

>>1027383
Yeah. Fluoro handles like ass.

Try to save what's on there, spool it on to an empty roll, and use it as leader material.

>>1027383
Definitely. Flouro is great, if you're using 4lb test or heavy test on a baitcaster. I've always had problems with anything inbetween.

>>1027142
Are those the little saltwater catfish I used to catch off my grandpa's dock in the Gulf of Mexico? About the size of your average pond-caught channel cat (2-3lbs)?

Man those things could glorp up 5 feet of fishing line.

>>1027355
Nice,cool net too. Also what lure is that looks like a large fly?

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Went fishing for the first time today and this is all I caught. I was fishing for bass, using a spinning reel and a frog/senko worms

>>1027201
Jesus
>>1027192
What'd I do?

>>1027523
Least you got a cute dink pic out of it.

How the fuck did you get that on a senko or frog?

Is there an idiot's guide to using a spinning reel? I have taken it out twice and my shit gets tangled after a few casts, my casts also flop in the water right in front of me. Am I supposed to feather the line after a cast with my finger?

>>1027523
Is that a white bluegill or am I just too drunk to tell right now?

>>1027528
Try not being a girl and putting your purse down when you cast.

>>1027272

I see 2 pigs with large ears and a beetle in the middle.

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>>1027528
Flip the bail over by hand at the end of your cast and pull the line straight before reeling. Don't overfill the spool. Also a quality swivel reduces the chance of line twists. Braided line is great on spinning gear for cutting down on line twists but it has its on caveats of use.

Just to let you know this spring sucked balls. My boat is down and the rain blows dick. Any InjunFags know of an AntiRain Dance I can do?

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>>1027343
This. I make my own musky leaders with them. I would use shrink wrap on connections as well

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Best baitcaster for a complete beginner? Under $100

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Just got this bait in the mail gonna catch hella bass

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>>1027565
this or the black max

Any good memorial day stpries?

>>1027575
> deep diver

Hope you have a boat

>>1027565
If you're a COMPLETE beginner, I wouldn't recommend a baitcaster as a first reel.
Not that you can't learn on them and get really good with them, BUT a spincast or spinning reel has a much less steep learning curve. You'll fish more and untangle knots less.

>>1027399
Those where probably hardheads they are slightly less slimy.

>>1027523
Caughting something on the first trip is good. Those sunfish can actually be tricky at times. Some days where I skunk I pray that I least pluck one of them.

>>1027528
How old/new is your line?

>my casts also flop in the water right in front of me
You're releasing too late. Side arm cast are easier to start out with imo.

Don't worry about feathering the line.

>>1027578
Do you have one of these? My buddy got one and I haven't gotten to play with it yet, but he said they're pretty nice.

>>1027528
Well first off do you have enough weight?
But to cast well you need to let the rod do the work. When you bring it back you should feel it load up with potential energy and When you feel it load up right whip back in front of you, changing it to kinetic energy.

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>>1027695
I don't know about the memecasters, but I have 3 of the sharky ii and they haven't let me down. I've gotten 1 1/2 years out of my oldest one with no maintenance in the salt
>pic related
My UL

>>1026782
Winter you want to be closer to the bottom because generally the fish are closer to the bottom. Summer you can pretty much do whatever, figure out what they want. Spring and fall, varies. Could be anywhere in between.

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>not catching 13+ inch slabs
You guys are pathetic

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>>1027736
>Not catching 45" bull reds from a yak
What are you, pathetic or something?

>>1027758
>kayaking in the weeds

That's how you get sneks in your boat. Fuck that shit and fuck water moccasins.

>>1027736
>13 inch
>slabs

Check this guy out.

>>That's how you get sneks in your boat.

And then they turn around and get out of your boats. A someone who catches a lot of snakes, I'd love to spend more time with all these people who seem to constantly get chased/attacked by them. For some reason damn near every snake I start to go after tries to move in the opposite direction (unless cornered).

>>1027524
Double overhand deadlifts are my shit

>>1027775
Do you have cottonmouths AKA water moccasins around you? They are known to be aggressive and chase boats. I haven't ran into them on the water, but I often see them chilling on the shore.

>>1027771
>>1027775
There's no salt water snakes in the marsh here kek

>>1027796
>Do you have cottonmouths AKA water moccasins around you?

Yes. I've caught and ketp several as pets. 99% of the time I only end up encountering water snakes though.

>>They are known to be aggressive and chase boats.

Not at all. I mean, they'll come up to a boat to see what's up, but when it looks like you're going to go after them, they pretty much take off. They're especially attracted to splashing since they often feed on frogs/fish in shallow water. I've even had one try to go into the bait bucket on the back of my kayak.

>>1027801
>There's no salt water snakes in the marsh here kek

If you're in the Gulf Coast, there's Marsh Snakes, but they're a harmless species of water snake.

>>1026725
Anyone know if it's possible to load 2 12 foot kayaks on a sedan roof?

>>1027775
A lot of the water snakes around me are pretty stupid.

I had a ~2 foot one chase a 3lb bass I'd hooked, even followed it as I lifted it out of the water. Sat there under the bass looking up at it as it's dangling from my line as I'm trying to rapidly determine whether it's a copperhead or not (they have the same markings and small ones have similar builds, only difference is head shape). Not sure what he thought he was gonna do, the bass probably could've eaten it.

The rat snakes around me are aggressive, or at least bull-headed. They'll hold their ground and mock-strike or just puke on you. Again, nonvenomous, but they get big enough the physical damage from a bite is actually dangerous, and of course the risk of infection. Also their puke smells horrible and doesn't wash out easily.

>>1027808
Yes, if you have roof bars. Without them, no (or at least not safely), since they need to be sitting on their sides.

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>>1027792
>Double oVerhand deadlifts

My negro! Thats the form i use too

>>1027810
>I had a ~2 foot one chase a 3lb bass I'd hooked, even followed it as I lifted it out of the water.

Yeah, they're pretty curious. Fast learners too. A couple I had would notice when you approached the tank with a container full of fish and would already be waiting for you to open the lid. I could feed them out of my hand.

>>Sat there under the bass looking up at it as it's dangling from my line as I'm trying to rapidly determine whether it's a copperhead or not (they have the same markings and small ones have similar builds, only difference is head shape).

I've lost track of how many times at work I get called to deal with a "Copperhead" that's actually just a water snake. Crazy thing is that in the 9 years of responding to such calls, I saw my first copperhead ever last week. But nobody had actually recognized it as such.

The head is kind of a tricky thing because Water Snakes- and many other species- will spread their heads and puff their bodies to make themselves look bigger. Honestly, the only real way to tell is to really know the snakes due to having observed a lot of pictures/videos of them or interacting with them in real life. I always tell people to leave them alone as most snake bites happen when people are trying to actively kill/handle the snake.

>>The rat snakes around me are aggressive, or at least bull-headed.

They can be blustery, especially the black and Texas rat snakes, but they chill out relatively quickly once you see through their bluff and handle them a couple of times.

>>but they get big enough the physical damage from a bite is actually dangerous

Meh. I'd be more scared of getting bitten/clawed by a cat or chihuahua to be honest.

The idea people have about snakes are much worse than the actual animals. There's so much stuff (and animals) we take for granted every day that will fuck you up way worse than a snake ever could.

Same deal with sharks. And spiders.

>>1027822
>There's so much stuff (and animals) we take for granted every day that will fuck you up way worse than a snake ever could.

Very true but I would still not enjoy being bitten by the 6' king snake I had to kill last December.

>>1027828
>had to kill

Seriously? You do know King Snakes are harmless and actually kill and eat venomous snakes, right? If you hadn't killed it, you almost definitely never would have seen that snake again.

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>>1027818
>people unironically risk tearing their biceps to get 5 extra pounds on their lift
Besides, mixed grip creates muscular imbalances

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>>1027355
great colours on that fish

>>1027805
East coast man

>>1027808
Yeah, I do it a lot. Either roof racks or just get something with some give (i use 2 life vests), but big enough to spread out the weight on the roof

>>1027855
Literal dipshits who egolift instead of just getting the form down, full ROM and max health benefits
Snapcity is inevitable for such cancerous fags

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>>1027034
>>DT16
>>shallow
>Nigga do you normally use downriggers or some shit?

No.. but for Lake Trout here in June-November they're 100-200 ft down and you really need one. I've tried leadcore with deep diving baits to get 80 ft and 2 oz drop shot rigs to 200. But it's not as much fun as in May catching them on bass tackle.

>>1026850
+1

>>1027832
It was in my chicken coop at 2 am. I had to make a choice of finding something to grab it with while it attacked my chickens or remove its head with my .22. I hate killing any snake but my livestock comes first.

I need a reel guys.

>Spinning reel
>$70-120
>20-25 / 1500-2500 size

Preferably something that doesn't look like a retarded space ship part would be nice.

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The trout fishing on the Colorado River is amazing.

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>>1027978
I have a Okuma Inspira 2500 and it's pretty dope. Perfect size for a medium rod imo

>>1026855
>>1026846
Or Field & Stream?

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>tfw closest place to catch decent fish is a hour away
>the only places close enough to go after work are polluted rivers catching perch and mudcats covered in pollution sores or a pond that charges $10 to fish and it's catch and release only.
>will forever be a weekend fisherman
I'm saving up enough to where I can be homeless in the national forest mastering my skills in catching native stream trout and stealing stuff from other campsites to make some extra beer money.

>>1027978
Pfleuger President XT if you can get over the colors (I personally like them)

>>1027978
If you do look at the Pfluegers, their 30 size is nice. Little smaller than most 3000 or Medium reels, but larger than a UL and it feels nice to use.

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>>1026725
What all lures will a snap swivel fuck up the action on?

>>1027978
Daiwa BG sw

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>>1028033

>Can't go far because no drivers license

I recently went on my first bass fishing trip and it was more fun than I expected. Mostly fished with weightless flukes all day. Biggest I caught was 2 1/2lb largemouth.

What type of rod and reel should I get if I just want to toss some weightless flukes around and possibly try new things with it like texas rig, carolina, etc..

I was thinking of buying a MH rod and 7 something gear ratio reel.

>>1027695
My cousin has the kastking and I have the abu, For me they both feel the same as in smoothness and build, but the kastking has more features and better breaking system also the damn tension knob cap hasn't fallen off of his memecaster

>>1028137
A light weight MH rod either spinning or baitcasting will be just fine for 90% of bass lures. Don't get caught up in all of the having 8-12 rods. You only really see that in tournaments because it's a waste of time having to change lures when they're on the clock. I bass fished with a $30 MH spinning combo from Walmart for many years and caught plenty of 5+ pound bass.

If you have the money, I would get a No. 8 Blackout rod. They're only like $50 and perform as good as the $250 rods. If you don't know how to use baitcasters, then get a Bass Pro Shops Johnny Morris CarbonLite combo. They're like $150.

You don't have to spend that much if you don't want to though. I have a buddy that won a bass tournament and all he has are old Ugly Stik combos with eyes and tips broken off and shit on his $1,500 bass boat with no outboard motor or carpet.

Knowing where the fish are and knowing how to fish is the most important thing. A $500 rod and reel combo or a $50 swimbait isn't going to increase your chances of catching anything.

Anyone do bow fishing here?

how do I into crappie fishing?

Im giving up on walleye for the week but my hunger for fresh fish hasnt subsided. Im going to a big reservoir tomorrow and apparently it can be a good watershed for crappie. Ive never fished for them once in my life.

>>1028171
>crappie fishing
I was so suprised to catch one in the Everglades

>>1028144
Neat. I figured it would be closeish to the black max.

>>1028152
+1 on the blackout or really anything by no. 8 tackle/13 fishing.

>>1028160
I do a bit

>>1028171
A live minnow under a bobber near brush piles is almost a guaranteed crappie. Otherwise a white curly tail grub, on a super light jug as worked well for me.

>>1028181
I dont really feel like bothering with getting minnows in the morning. Would small white little grubs meant for ice fishing jigs work? Only small soft plastics I have are for ice fishing

how do i use a jig when there's lots of things to get snagged on

should i just fish something else?

>>1028212
Jigs are pretty cheap. You're just gonna have to be okay with losing a few. If there's lots of things to get snagged on then that pretty much guarantees there are fish hiding in there

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I just bought the Abu Garcia max, it's my first baitcaster, whatd the best way to practice and set this thing up?

>>1027565
Picked up the Abu Vengeance / Black Max combo from Dick's a few years ago for around $70. The rod isn't quite seven foot and the reel is a little finicky at times but I won't likely replace it or upgrade unless it ever becomes irreparable. I use the combo for the occasional Texas rig but mostly for football and swim jigs. The short length makes flipping jigs a little easier from my small jon boat.

>>1027736
All the damned time. Can't fucking find the 15"+ needed for a citation unfortunately. Same with yellow perch. 14" is citation for those and we've caught several 13 3/4".

>>1028171
Slip floats, small jig heads and soft plastics seem to be common. Tip with shrimp or waxworms especially to get their attention. I'm more partial to cast & retrieve though and catch'em on small jig spinners. Beetle Spins are a poplar brand but I've taking to buying the parts and assembling my own.

>>1028219
the thing is I suck ass and have trouble telling the difference between a snag and a fish biting

i'm sure i've pulled the jig right out of the fish's mouth before it was in properly... i guess i just gotta keep practicing

>>1028220
Put the magnetic brake in max and the tension knob tight enough for the lure to slow fall to the ground on free spool

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>>1027037
yes

>>1028220
other than what's already been suggested, just know that everyone, even the guys on TV, has gotten backlash to some degree or another before. if it happens, no biggie. don't get frustrated and learn from you're mistakes.

>>1028087
Everything but spoons.

>>1028212
Skirted with a weed guard, like a flipping or football head jig? The abu combo I mentioned above I use 14lb fluorocarbon on and I won't throw into extremely nasty stuff. A downed tree is fine if it's lost all its little branches and I'm just throwing into the big Y's of the main branches. The trick is not setting the hook into anything that isn't a fish. The weed guard will help prevent that. If the lure ever does stop letting it go slack again and bouncing it a little will usually free it. Only tug on a hard stop as a last resort. If the jig still drops/ takes slack there's a chance of getting it back. Hard stops that don't drop when you give them slack usually mean you've gotten the jig wedged. Sometimes they'll pop free but more often they're lost unless you're fishing from a boat. Then you can usually get behind the snag or snap a heavy weight around the line and drop it down to dislodge it.

If I plan on fishing bushes or nasty stuff along a shoreline I'll only thow to the edges instead of trying to get into it. Or I'll run a strong braid instead of fluoro. Braid removes a lot of fear.

>>1028220
Depends on technique. For basics:
- line it with the type of line you've decided to use
- dial the brakes all the way down
- tie on a casting plug, weedless frog, jig or something that won't snag while you practice casting and is similar is weight to what you plan to use in the rod
- click the spool release and allow the lure/plug to drop but don't let it hit the ground
- if it doesn't drop the spool tension needs to be loosened, if it drops free-fall it's too loose and needs to be tightened. aim for a descent a bit slower than free-fall
- turn the brake back up to near max for now, you can tweak it later

>>1028263
Cont'd

Proper spool tension and high brakes are going to help curb backlashes while you practice, you can adjust both as you feel fit down the road. Now you can practice casting. Ride the spool with your thumb when you cast and build a feel for how much pressure is needed to prevent an overrun. And stop the spool before your lure contacts the ground/water. High tension and brakes can keep a spool from overrunning even upon the lure landing but they can also reduce casting distance. Lower tension and brakes allow for longer casts but require more thumb control to prevent overruns.

>>1028137
Weightless flukes you can do with ultralight tackle.
Add a weight for a Texas or Carolina rig and I'd bump it up to light gear.

>>1028265
Also if you switch lures and the weight difference is substantial be sure to readjust the spool tension. Increase tension and/or brakes if casting into the wind and the opposite if casting with the wind. These are probably self explanatory and the kinds of things you'll figure out and build a feel for in time.

>>1028152
>You only really see that in tournaments because it's a waste of time having to change lures when they're on the clock.

And they have the sponsors to pay for that many rods.

>>1028226

Try using circle hooks. No jerking/sweeping to set the hook. Just reel and the fish moving in a different direction sets the hook.

>>1028263
>flipping or football head jig
uh... it's a round head standard jig

ty for the advice tho it seems like jigging is one of the harder methods of fishing to get used to

>>1028278
I can't use live bait here so I'm not sure what to hook on my circle hooks

any recommendations?

>>1028226
>the thing is I suck ass and have trouble telling the difference between a snag and a fish biting
Snags don't pull back. Bass often like to hit on the drop so they're gonna either tag the jig right after it hits water or right after you've gotten it over a branch and it's dropping to the bottom again.

Keep slack out of your line but don't keep it entirely taught either. When the jig hits the water there should be minimal slack and the rod tip high. Ease the rod tip down as the jig sinks and maybe reel and eighth to half a turn (depending on retrieve rate of the reel). Set the hook only on a honest to goodness tug. Otherwise slowly raise the rod tip back up. You'll feel what the jig is hitting in your line. Maybe rocks on the bottom or a soft thunk as it draws up and over a branch. If it's a branch once the jig is over it ease the rod back down as before ready to set the hook on a bite. Rinse and repeat until the jig is clear of the cover.

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>>1028280
Ah I was thinking like bass jigs. You can do weedless rigging with traditional jigs, get ones with weed guards or get the kinds that balance the weight so the hook stays upright and won't dig into the bottom. If you're throwing something like a curly tailed grub make a slice from above the tail to below the top of the grub so you end up with a little flap. You can put the flap over the hook to prevent snags but if a fish bites it presses that flap and still gets hooked. Otherwise just goggle up some images of weedless rigging for the baits you do use.

>plan on carp fishing with corn on one rod and another actively with lures
>end up with my first ever gut hooked trout
First trout in that part of the river. I snipped the line down its throat but I should have just kept the trout. Didnt plan on keeping any (never have yet) and left stringer in car.

Is corn on a jig a good idea? I should have tried that more.

>>1028286
I bought two jigs with a flat head and a skirt

I think they have a weed guard on them... what are the flat headed ones used for mostly?

>>1028280
>seems like jigging is one of the harder methods of fishing to get used to
It was also my fault for assuming you meant what I pictured above. Jigging is kind of broad and covers a lot of techniques. I actually have most of my troubles with rocky bottoms than with timber. V shaped wedges in stone and rocky bottoms break free a lot less readily than in wood. If you're currently using a steady retrieve maybe try reeling slightly faster. If you're trying to keep close to the bottom maybe pop the rod up and back to hop the jig along so it's breaking contact with the bottom. If it's dragging the bottom it's more likely to find a snag.

>>1027439
It's a large fly. Variant of the woolly bugger called the Grinch. It kills my local rivers.

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How do you fish in a river like pic related? I've fished before in the ocean, but I've just moved to Vermont and I'm close to mostly rivers. I'm mostly interested in bass, pike, and perch. Where to find them, and how?

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>>1026725
Anyone know anything about these Berkley Lightning Rods?

I want a cheapo 7'+ ML rod for bass and rainbows and shit, and it seems to fit the bill well.

>>1028289
>what are the flat headed ones used for
A perfectly flat bottomed head is meant to keep the trailer upright. With a crawfish trailer it keeps the claws pointed up like a crawfish in a defensive pose. With a swimbait it might look like a smaller fish feeding on another fish's eggs (particularly effective during spawning). Some soft plastic worms are manufactured with buoyant tails which work great with those kinds of jigs. They stay upright and will wiggle and waft in the current or even with just the slight movements of your hand on the rod when the line is taught.

If they're flat but also kind of rounded and like the underside of a spoon they might be Arkie style jig heads. They're meant to be a kind of do-all head shape. Flipping, swimming, bottom bouncing, etc. I've never fished them to opine on them.

>>1028033
>tfw 3 amazing lakes within 15 minute radius
>one known locally for exceptional crappie
>one known locally for giant LMB
>one known statewide (and even interstate-wide) for pike/muskie
>did I mention a Class A trout stream too?

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Fuckin lightning cutting my fishin short. This dudes mouth was pretty tore up. Felt kinda bad I hooked him.

>>1028186
Yeah that should work. Maribou jigs under a bobber are suppose to work good too.

>>1028226
You'll lose less once you catch more fish. I usually wait until I can feel the weight of the fish before I set the hook.

Also, If you're thowing it into structure make sure it's a structure jig. It's a world of difference pitching a structure vs football jig.

>>1028270
>getting a good hookset on a t rig with an UL
>pulling a bass out of cover with an UL

>>1028274
I have 14 setups...

>>1028171
Crappie school up and tend to hold at a particular depth that varies with the water temperature. So once you find one, you've found the school.
After that, it's just a matter of bait and depth.
Lots of people fish for them with a marabou jig underneath a bobber. The wave action on the bobber causes the marabou to flutter. Once at the right depth, it's deadly.

>>1028301
im assuming vermont has some nice trout. You're gonna want to wade in there. If there is a dam focus on that. If not look around. Maybe google maps can reveal some nice looking spots from the satellite. Deep pools is where most fish like to hang out. Rapids are what trout like. Try and fish those, and the slow pools beside the rapids are just as important

>>1028305
Don't own a lightning shock but the next time you get a chance look at the guides on the Shock and then look at the regular IM6 Graphite Lightning Rod's. The Shocks have some proper ceramic guides in them whilst the new basic Lightning rods do not (they used to!). Now they have some shitty soft steel guides that even plain old monofilament will wear grooves into. I found this out when I got a couple AMP rods when they first came out. Best damned wispy little ultralights I've had until two months in it looked like I'd dremeled the grooves in with a cutting wheel. Grooves started snapping the line and causing lost lures until I realized what was happening.

Anyway the Shock should be great so long as they haven't cheapened out on the guides on those now too. I actually really like Berkley's rods, just not the guides as of late. If the guides are shiny steel avoid them. If they're that dull grey/black ceramic you're golden like a shower.

>>1028263
Thanks man for the tips, I'm gonna practice with this thing once the wind settles down a bit

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My gfs first fish, she had a blast she also caught a little catfish. I found a fishing buddy finally

>>1028311
>I've never fished an ultralight, the post
Hooksets happen just fine. I've even dragged out a 5-1/2 pounder out of weeds on 4lb test.
The real trick comes when you try to land it. That's when most breakages happen, and a net is highly recommended.

>>1028332
My best largemouth yet was probably 6 or 6.5 on 6lb test. Weedless rigged grub carefully bounced along the tops of some tall, thick hydrilla. I've always made sure never to try and raise up a fish that's anywhere close to my line strength. In a little low-sided jon boat it's easy enough to lip'em anyway. Only recently has not having a net been trouble. I've been catching more toothy fish like pickerel and muskie which pose some trouble but can usually be grabbed behind the gills. Snakehead have been the real hassle. Crazy fuckers will flip out on a whim and their gills are nasty sharp. I probably should pick up one of those rubber gill/fin-friendly nets that won't fuck the fish up or tangle the lure into itself. Especially since I'm throwing a lot of big baits this year in hopes of finding my first double digit bass.

>>1028332
yea, bassfags here will claim any lb test lower than 10lb is totally impracticable. They also dont believe in nets for some reason, they only flip them onto land or lip them from the water, so that explains why they cant see how UL is possible.
They have some weird mentality- i think it's something about consumerism because they were convinced that you need to put down your sunfish rod and buy huge heavy action tackle to catch bass. Sort of the same thing with baitcasters, meant for big fish in salt but moved to freshwater, but not because of baitfishing for giant carp + cats, but for bass.

I got nothing against bass but my opinion on most bass fishermen is that they overkill their tackle- which isnt a bad thing actually. But something I wouldnt do since it takes some of the fight away.

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>>1028332
It's an inferior method to catch bass with. You really can't argue that you get equal better hook sets with an UL.

>weeds
Fish some grass matts, lay downs, or brush piles with that UL and get back to me. Or when it's windy or when you want to fish a t rig deeper than a couple feet.

UL are fun, but there's objectively better equipment to use for catching bass.

>>1028343
I grew up fishing in Florida.
EVERY lake is choked with grass.
That's where I caught my largest, and I pulled it out of grass mats.
And lead still sinks the same no matter what line you use.

>>1028348
>pulling 6+ pound bass through grass mats on 6# test with an UL

Oh boy

>>1028348
Just to follow, I wasn't trying to catch monster bass on the UL, it just happened.
And you know what?
It fucking worked.
Get your drag set right, and you can land a hell of a lot more fish on light line than you might think.

>>1028349
Believe what you want. I did it.

And it wasn't 6#, it was 4.

>>1028352
Sick dude

Once caught a 43 pound blue catfish on line comprised of tied together pubic hair.

Bass fags btfo amirite ;)

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>>1028348
>That's where I caught my largest, and I pulled it out of grass mats.
I believe you, but I also think you also got lucky as far as it not burying it's self too deep in the mat. The bass I caught today was in a brush pile and my drag, which is set around 5lbs, was slipping when I was pulling it out. I had to thumb the spool and pull him out.

>And lead still sinks the same no matter what line you use.
Yeah but you can't really throw an ounce weight with a UL or a whole lot of lures that bass like.

And I do have an UL that I use just as much as my other stuff.

>>1028342
>they only flip them onto land
Many bass anglers would frown upon that. Unfortunately maybe not the majority but then many anglers of all types aren't always sporting or conservationists.

>>1028343
I don't quite ultralight, 6lb being the lowest I go, but I'd argue a hookset is a hookset. You might not have as big of a piece of pointy wire or as large of a U in it but if the fish is hooked through you just have to fight it in. Therein lies my only disdain.

In your defense I will argue that at some point going too light is more detrimental to the fish than too heavy is unsporting to the angler. Having to fight a fish to exhaustion because of one's tackle is more negligent than reeling in three pounders on twenty lb line is boring. Somewhere there is a balance.

>>1028358
Oh I did get lucky, I freely admit that. My drag was making itself very known at the time, and I was sweating bullets when I pulled it in because I didn't have a net with me at the time.

>you can't really throw an ounce weight with a UL
Maybe not, but the UL throws just as far with 1/4oz as a heavier setup throws with the aforementioned 1oz. It's all about having enough weight to load the rod properly and using good form. Once you've got that, the distance will be there.

>>1028342
i caught a big ass catfish on 8lb test

it took 10 minutes but i still did it

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>>1028366
I definitely wouldn't say it's impossible, or even unlikely to get a good hookset with a light rod, but I've definitely had more hooks that are barely in the fish with lighter rods than with a medium heavy rod.

>Having to fight a fish to exhaustion because of one's tackle is more negligent
I agree with you there, but sometimes you don't have a choice if your fishing for dinks and you hook a big one you gotta do what you gotta do.

>than reeling in three pounders on twenty lb line is boring
Eh we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think catching a half pound fish on 20lb test is fun lol.

>>1028372
Right, but a 1/4 oz is probably on the upper end of what you can throw and a lot of times you need more than that to just keep the lure on the bottom.

Also, I brought up the 1oz weight because some times that's what you need to get to the bottom of grass where a 1/4oz will just sit on top.

Honestly if I could consistently catch bass in open water and with light lures I'd probably only use light tackle, but a majority of my fish are in heavy cover and I'm using lures that are relatively heavy. And I hate throwing heavier lures on spinning gear.

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Guys.. You match the rod type with the type of hooks you're using. You use lighter rods with hooks that do not require being set. Small trebles and circle hooks come to mind. A lighter rod is easier to keep the proper tension on the line to prevent the hook from being thrown. Obviously if you are using a larger hook, or catching a fish with a hard mouth roof like a pickerel, then you need a bit of backbone to set the hook. If you are having trouble with improperly set hooks then you are not correctly matching your gear with your lure or the fish just aren't committing and you need to switch up your lure, technique, color, etc.

Ever used a glass rod? They bend down the shaft all the way to the handle. They can;t set hooks for shit no matter how hard you jerk. But they are used religiously for small crankbaits for a reason.

>>1028348
>And lead still sinks the same no matter what line you use.


lol no.

>>1028380
>sometimes you don't have a choice if your fishing for dinks and you hook a big one
Certainly. I'd say the snakehead and largemouth helped do the AMP rods in when we were fishing for perch, gill and crappie. Although I still blame Berkley for cheaping out and am amazed they go so far as to put them on their non UL rods like the Lightning.

>we'll have to agree to disagree on this one
Agreed, disagreed. If I wanna bring a fish in skipping across the surface I'll go for rock bass on light tackle since they just roll over anyway. Little buggers smash the snot out of a lure and make you think you've got something just to give up and play dead. But they always seem to be there when nothing else is biting so I can't hate them too much.

Anyway, the only thing I have 20 lb on is a deep diving setup I use on Raystown and that's still playing with fire considering it houses big pike, muskie, striper, and lake trout. I also run 50 lb braid (same diameter as my preferred 12 lb for baitcasters) on a frog setup. The fight is over the moment the hook sets and the braid just ensures the fish is coming out of dense grass and lily pads. But the fun there is seeing the explosive strikes, which is awesome and I love topwater, otherwise I need a little fight in my fishing.

Just getting back into bass fishing. Bought some rooster tail spinners but no luck. I'd like to use my frog lure but I don't know if there's any fish around big enough to take it. NW Arkansas BTW.

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Do any of y'all have modified lures you like to use?
This jitterbug I ripped the hooks off of and replaced one of them with a weedless alternative
Also added a plastic screw to the back side of it so I can add different plastics
The long skinny plastic seems to replicate a snake well
But I've also run it with almost anything you can imagine on it

How would you guys target some decent sized needlefish? The pier I fish at has a slew of them that hang around the surface but never bite anything.

>>1028420
>hang around the surface
>dont bit anything
Uh...bowfish? Sorry, not familiar with needlefish but this is how I get carp, gar, and paddlefish.

>>1028420
>>1028438
Welp, just looked them up.

Try a small live shrimp or [whatever the saltwater version of a shiner is] rigged weightless on a circle hook, or on light weight under a bobber.

>be very into fishing
>don't feel like hurting fish anymore

Why is life such a pain

>>1028420
Strip of herring under a float or retrieved slowly.
Or a small spoon.
Or sometimes they just don't bite at all no matter what.

>>1028490
Because you're denying your nature as a human. Try eating what you catch once or twice-it'll dramatically change your outlook.
As the saying goes: Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.
We are animals and predators. If we never get any tangible reward from what we do, we'll eventually stop. So let yourself win. The next time you catch something legal to keep, allow yourself to take it home and cook it up. You'll view fishing a lot more favorably after that.

>>1028490
Target invasives and feel better

>>1028383
I've caught pickerel with a UL with a Texas rig worm with cheap Walmart hooks. One time the pickerel caught me by surprise and I did the worst hook set in history and still got him.

This discussion needs to end; you hardly need a pound or two of pressure to hook a fish.

>>1028575
+1

>>1028416
Probably because it wasn't a Mepps™

But seriously, might be getting too warm unless you run it right at sunset. Try a Texas-rigged finesse worm or something.

So there are multiple lakes in my area that contain pike/musky. I'm not looking to hook a monster, but I've always wanted to catch one. I'm targeting areas where they would like to hide, but the problem is that bass like to hide there too. All I'm hooking into is bass. How do I actively target the toothier fish I'm after?

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Anyone concerned about Mercury and heavy metals and whatnot poluting the fish you catch. The Michigan DNR suggests limiting the fish that you eat from the Great Lakes by quite a bit, like only once a month on fish like Walleye. Anyone actually listen to these recomendations? Do you think they are overblown. It concerns me to think that in times when we do well fishing in Lake Erie/The Detroit River, we are putting our health at risk.

Is this pollution caused by really old practices from years ago still taking a toll, or are there current sources that are causing this?

>>1028628
Just keep fishing there.
They eat bass. Where the prey are, there the predators will be also.

>>1028634
Yes, it's a concern. Heavy metal poisoning can be pretty horrible.

Yes, it's somewhat overblown. Mercury levels in commercial tuna are frequently higher than found in sport-caught fish. Healthy males between the ages of 18 and 65 are more resistant to the damage caused by mercury and pregnant females are the most prone to it, but those guidelines are generalized as a catch-all.

Most of the pollution is from ye olden tymes, but there are still some sources of heavy metals actively going into the Great Lakes.

Nobody realized mercury was toxic until the late 70's, early 80's. We'd play with it in our bare hands in chemistry class in high school.

>>1028634
It's mostly because mercury doesn't really get out of the food chain that easily. So even if it was years ago, the stuff is still around in the ecosystem.

But even so, go look up permitted mercury levels for people your age. It's probably much higher than you think. What they're REALLY concerned about is some poor fisherman catching bass and walleye every day and feeding it to his kids every night trying to be a good parent, when he's also setting them up for problems later in life due to all the heavy metals.

But even so those are just guidelines, and common sense applies. If you have 4 walleye in a week immediately after your one Great Lakes fishing trip per year, you're still well within your exposure limits for the year when it all evens out.

i found a nice little flat with about 7 carp feeding on it, im tying up some bugs real quick then im gonna go get a carp on fly
>>1028033
>stealing stuff from other campsites to make some extra beer money.
top kek
>>1028137
>weightless flukes
good tactic. i like them nose hooked weightless on octopus hooks
>>1028171
>buy nail tails, white and chartreuse
>jigheads, pink, 1/32 oz
>rip the barby thingy of lead off the shank so its just a lead ball on a hook
>bounce it under a bober 3-5 feet down
>>1028220
1/2 oz of lead painted orange and tighten everything way up, practice in the yard
>>1028373
>it took 10 minutes
thats not too long
still a good fight though, seconds turn to minutes when the pressure is on with a big fish/light tackle
>>1028420
get a nice small circle hook and some wire leader, hook a chunk of fish, no weight, flick it by them, watch for a bite, and let them swallow it

Lost my frog lure in a tree. What's a good one I can replace it with? Preferably one that won't snag on water plants.

Does anyone else autistically buy tackle? I bought my fifth rod a week ago and felt the need to buy $80 in lures this morning, which I didn't need but now should be pretty well covered for the species I fish. D-does anyone buy multiples of the same lure?

>>1028628
>>1028639
Currently fishing a more natural color. Should I switch up to something more vibrant like a firetiger or chartreuse?

>>1028694
Multiples? Yeah, for different colors/sizes/backups. It's not irrational

>>1028694
Mepps Agila with the natural hair brown skirt, I have like a dozen of them from Size #1 to #5. I think the silver or gold blade and brown skirt, #2 and #3, I have like 5 or 6 that are pretty much the same exact lure.

Rapala X-Rap in "Gold" (more of a copper and orange) I have in 3 different sizes.

>>1028694
i just tied 6 of the same fly, having spares is always good

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>>1028694
Yes. I bought these worms the other day (a long with $60 more worth of zoom stuff) and I have probably 15 different colors of zoom trick worms. This one just looked neat.

opened my tackle box and the hook on my rippin rap was snapped

what the actual f?

>>1028726
How long have you had it?

The last three Rapala lures I've bought, within the last month or so, have had very brittle hooks. As in, they snap at the bend on hookset with small fish on first go.

I emailed Rapala about it and they drop-shipped me a 50 pack of treble hooks to replace them all.

On that note, anyone know what brand hooks Rapala uses? The package was unbranded.

>>1028733
They use VMC (which is owned by Rapala)

>>1028697
Can't hurt. After all, it's not like you're catching Muskie right now anyway
Might also try doing some fishing at the local bait shop and/or boat dock. Often they can steer you in the right direction for stuff that works on your area.

>>1028746
Thanks, but that's pretty fucking concerning. I use a lot of VMC hooks, really hope this was a short-term blooper in QC and not a sign of endemic issues.

May have to go back to Gamakatsu.

Man, tfw a 2 pound bass slams your size 12 Chernobyl Ant on your 4 weight rod and 2lb fluro tippet.

>>1028733
I've only had it for like a week

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>>1028717
The fly just worked, and the freshwater flats have rewarded me with a golden bone
>pic related
>>1028791
10/10 feeling, but I'd move up to 4 pound or even 6 pound if I was you

>>1028762
>>1028746
>>1028733
>>1028726
Never had that problem with Rapala hooks. VMC hooks normally aren't the greatest, but much better than Eagle Claw and seem on par with Gamakatsu.

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Does anyone else have problems with turtles chasing your topwater a lot?
Also caught my first topwater fish, heard a fish blow up and casted it there and was rewarded with this dink

>>1028803
I've had some rapala hooks break, but that's because they were snagged on rocks.

VMC makes the best screw lock EWG and shaky head hooks imo.

>>1028805
>rewarded
foul hooking isnt rewarding, anon.

>>1027957
Where are you? I'm right on Georgian Bay in Ontario and it's my dream to catch a lake trout but I never have. Any advice would be appreciated

>>1028806
I like VMC's weighted swimbait hooks too. You can actually find some with a bit of weight on it too, like 1/4oz+ if you want to launch a paddle tail on the memecaster.

Like I said, I think they're on par with Gamakatsus. Not quite as heavy as Trokars, but also not $10+ for a 6pk of EWGs.

Maybe it was a heat treating problem or a shitty batch of wire from China.

>>1028805
I have em nip at Texas rigs more than anything. Birds like the topwaters.

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>>1028807
90% of the time I see a fish hooked from a spook its foul hooked just saying
>>1028818 Kek they didn't even look at the senko
>Another foul hooked bass about 4-5lbs

>>1028694
Yes. Gotta have backups for the good shit because you'll be throwing it all the time. Lures get lost, and I'd rather not ruin my day fishing because I lost my only $3 spinner.
As for other stuff like rods and reels, I went through that a year ago. I wanted to go fishing and had the money because I was working a million hours a week for 6 months straight. Thing is, though I really wanted to go to escape, I had no TIME because again: working a million hours a week for months on end. I would pick up something because I wanted to have a catfish rig/learn about baitcasting/get a lightweight fly rod/dedicated bait fishing rig/dedicated worm rig/etc, then not fish it because no time, but I would justify it by saying I was building towards doing it later.
Now this year, when I DO have time, I'm using all of that gear I bought earlier.

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Well my little trip north today was a fucking disaster. I should have turned around as soon as I saw the white caps. I was but myself so launching my boat with a pretty strong sideways current was a pain in my fucking ass. Once I got going I got absolutly drenched in 45 degree water. I tucked myself in a little cove to get out of the wind and started fishing. Got one bite in that spot then made a little run across the lake to another little inlet that was blocking the wind. Had three bites there but only landed one. After that I was getting too frustruated with the wind so I ate my sun and went back to the launch. Get the boat back on the trailer was an even bigger nightmare than launching it was. It was a beutifull day too. Not a cloud in the sky.

God damned wind just had to fuck my shit up. Pic related was the dink I caught. Kinda weird how bland it's colors are considering the river that flows out of this lake is where I normally fish and those fish have really vibrant markings.
>>1028416
The fish don't need to be big at all to take a topwater. I catch dinks that have mouths just big enough to fit a frog into and they destroy it all the time
>>1028628
Really big baits
>>1028689
My favorite frogs are the Spro frogs. Both the jr. and normal size depending on the area you are fishing
>>1028694
It's becoming an issue for me tbqhwy

>>1028792

Def email Rapala and tell them what happened. That should not be happening, and they'll likely ship the stuff to fix it on their dime.
I did the same thing with Arbogast once about some Jitterbug lips and screws. Full pack of stuff to fix a dozen jitterbugs-hook guards, lips, screws-showed up in my mailbox not a week later.

With any kind of quantity production item, even small error rates can add up to a LOT of mistakes.
Say Rapala makes a million treble hooks a month. If only one hook out of every thousand is bad, that's still 1,000 bad hooks that went out the door per month. They know this, and are usually more than willing to fix something simple like that.
After all, they'd rather have you fishing their lures and loving them than bitching about how you paid for one, it broke and now you're out $10 and didn't even get to fish it.

>>1028834
I used the contact form on their website, thanks for the advice. It's crazy because I have a rattlin' rapala and I literally dragged a piece of concrete out of the river with it after it got stuck in a rope (looked like someone tried to make an anchor with it) so I really didn't expect to open my tackle box and find out I couldn't use the cool new lure I bought...

edit: they told me to return it to the retailer ugh

>>1028490
i hate it when i gut hook bluegills

little fuckers swallow the whole hook and they start bleeding out

>>1028840
That's why Aberdeen hooks are the best for panfish

>>1028805
I have.
Fuck turtles. Next one I catch is going into the cooking pot.

>>1028847
I was thinking that as well, but they were eastern box turtles and you're not supposed to eat them

>>1028864
Who said anything about eating them? Just let them fuckers boil...

>>1028797
Been getting gills and redears with really good color today, pic related.

I need to start buying chernobyl ants in bulk, they're my most productive fly.

What rod do you use Pepsi? Might be in the market for a 7 or 8 weight.

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>>1028884
>pepsi
Fuck. Skid. Sorry, thats what I get for phoneposting from the lake.

>>1028876
Is there any other way for some turtle mull? But they eat poisonous mushrooms

Skunk so far today
Throwing a frog for bass and have had well over 100 blow ups but most are late and behind it or they jump and shake it loose
Hooked into a grass carp easily 40 lbs and had it bend my hook out
Then snagged another grass carp of probably 30+
Bent out my snagging hook

I need stronger hooks

>>1028864
Are you sure?
Eastern Box Turtles are terrestrial. They aren't generally found in the water. Terrapins and map turtles look vaguely similar, but are aquatic and are much less endangered-you can eat them with no legal problems.

>>1028893
Trim the legs shorter. Also, are you dropping the rod tip and waiting before you set the hook?

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>>1026725
What all ways can I rig these stupid things?

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>>1028901
It's soft plastic frogs legs are plenty short yeah I always drop and wait until I see the line keep moving
Ended up nailing two since that post was made
But no exaggeration 70+ of the strikes were 8+ inches behind my bait
Fucking dumb fish

>>1028914
Oh I thought you meant a hollow body

>>1028915
Nah
Horny toads and another brand

Going to buy stronger hooks and a stronger snagging hook for these fucking grass carp

>>1028913

Not Op
I would fish them weightless. Those are the ones with salt in them so they sink a bit more than the normal kind. You can get the weighted hooks for swimbaits and have it sink quicker if you need or run and double fluke rig. All my success i have had with them is from a weightless twitch, twitch, pause method. letting it sink to the bottom at the start and pausing for 2-4 seconds after the twitching then letting it sink to the bottom every now and then on the retrieve. they usual hit in on the fall.

>>1028893
>bending hooks
Why dont you let you drag down? The hooks are fine especially if they're already classified as snagging hooks.

>>1028822
No you see the lip at least hooked, and the other trebel in some other area. That other pic had it no where on the mouth

>>1028808
>Where are you? I'm right on Georgian Bay in Ontario and it's my dream to catch a lake trout but I never have. Any advice would be appreciated

#1 Get a boat with a motor. Any skiff or rowboat or whatever that gets you on the water. I have a canoe and trolling motor. There was about a 1-2 week period here when smelt were running and you could catch the lakers in a few feet of water from a dock, but that was it.

Otherwise just a couple rods with fluorocarbon line to troll deep diving crankbaits from. Or if it's later iin the year (getting to that point now) get a big Penn 209 reel and fill it with leadcore line to troll spoons or minnow plugs. The deeper they are the more you will need a sonar device to find the depths they're at though. At least have a thermometer. If the surface temp is 50-55 you are in business for light tackle (trolling cranks 20-30 ft down).

I fished my lake for 20+ years growing up before catching one because I was always here in the summer on vacation when they were deep. Now that I live here I can be on the water at the right times, which aren't for long. Look into the boat and do it. It's really awesome pulling big fish you rarely see out of the lake.

>>1028913
like the other dude said weightless is great. To add to it on a ewg hook, like a texas rig. Make sure it's centered right so it doesnt spin as you reel it in.

Another way is to get a jig head but it wont make it as weedless. It's just easier to set up if you want weight though. I guess those jig head + ewg hooks are cool too

>>1028945
>where

Lake George, NY

>>1028936
Because I'm dealing with 30+ lb fish in relitivley tight quarters
A few big trees and rocks to break off on

Also even with my drag how I have it set. They're still pealing line like a motherfucker
I need to try to keep them away from structure

>>1028959
Have you lost carp cause of structure before? Id say go for it. Only way you're not going to peel a lot of drag on 30lb carp is if you get some huge tackle

>>1028964
First fish I lost today ran right into a tree and snapped my 20 lb braid
Next time I'm bringing my light saltwater setup with a 4k reel and 40 lb braid

>>1028966
sounds like the right thing to do. Good luck man. Slay the carp!

>>1028913
Weightless Texas rigged with offset hook

>>1028967
Found some 8/0 snagging hooks
Just what I need
After I miss one or two they won't bite anything for the rest of the day so that's my backup

Are there any trout-centered youtube channels? They all seem to be bass.

Question for the various fly fishermen here:

What's ya'lls opinion on furled leaders? Bought a couple last season cuz I got sick of only getting a couple tippet changes out of the mono ones before needing to replace them, and I'm in love with their ease of use and turn-over ability, but I have 2 concerns.
>do they spook fish worse than regular leaders?
They're quite a bit larger in diameter
>any way to make a slow-sinking one not sink?
Didn't realize it when I bought them but they have metal rings on the tippet end that causes them to sink slowly. Since I primarily fish terrestrials or poppers for panfish and bass this is kinda fugging my presentation.

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What are your finer fishing moments anons?

>be last Spring
>out all night drinking and catching catfish on a lake
>biggest we caught was 37lb not bad for frozen cut bait
>come back a little after the sun rose
>see bass tournament starting
>look at buddy
>bunch of fags using $100K of stuff to catch a little 1-10lb bass lol
>lets join it's only $100 entry
>we join
>buddy fishes all day with nightcrawlers
>I'm just throwing these plastic worms I bought in the baitshop around the bank like the person in the store said
>end up finishing 5th place
>beat 53 other people in $50K bass boats and $2,000 fish finders
>both drunk enough to go to jail
>call out of work and spend Sunday night drinking and catching catfish again

>30 more days of work till my 8 day trip to the PINS
>Minus gas, food, booze and cigs till then about $2000 for the trip
>Already droping $500 on a new rod and reel

I am not sure what else I might need to buy for the trip. I want to start making some shark leaders but that is fairly cheap. Maybe I will get 2 new rods and reels.

>>1028974
Fly fishing anything.
That's where the troutfags congregate.

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I don't mind catching dinks, but this was much more satisfying.
Fought 10x harder than a largemouth brick too.

Also, spoons-who knew? Not me.

>>1028998
They just swim fast they don't fight hard. I can reel them in without stopping on 4lb fluro on my Ultralight rig when I'm trying to catch trout.

>>1028976
You need to tie tippet onto the metal ring on the tippet end, this will prevent spooking from happening.
Floating furled leaders are available and require periodic waxing, I use otter butter. Not sure how to make your sinking leader float. I haven;'t been using the floating version for long, so I don't have much else to tell you.

I've been using them exclusively for the past year for throwing streamers, and have had good success. I even tie on 0X because the fish that are after my streamers probably don't give a shit about thick line.

>>1028998
For sunnies they tend to take the lure and run... and not stop, and when they swim they swim rapidly so you feel more tugs per second. A largemouth will feel heavier but wont let you know it's there at first.

Yea spoons are the shit too. A goodcombo of a spinner + a jig basically.

>>1029004
Yeah I know I need tippet, I just generally only run about 2 feet of tippet because I fish in tight quarters. The furled leaders make a pretty significant splash even on a good cast compared to mono leaders, though I suppose bluegill and occasionally bass won't really mind as long as it's not right up on the fly.

Could you recommend a good floating furled leader?

I've got floatant for my dry flies but I'm assuming that would be bad for a floating leader, and shit's expensive for how much I'd need. I'll look into the otter butter.

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>>1028959
caught a 132 pound yellowfin tuna on gami big river hooks. No carp will bend them out. come in a lot of sizes. otherwise i would look at vmc 4x hooks. you wont bend them on a carp either. learned a long time ago to always buy good hooks even if youre wasting them on carp.

>>1029026
>suppose bluegill and occasionally bass won't really mind as long as it's not right up on the fly.

I could drop my dick in the water and as long as it had something that looked vaguely like food, bass and bluegill would hit it. Hell the perch in my rivers try to eat my leg hairs when I go swimming. I do not know why the fly fags have to make shit so complicated.

> The fish will be spooked unless my .3 nano gram fly softly flutters to the water at a 49 degree angle perpendicular to Orions belt while making a slight dip to the left as if its wing was damaged from drying to quickly in the morning sun on February 17th.

CAST THE FUCKING LURE YOU FUCKING PRETENTIOUS FAGGOT.

>>1029027
i was using 2x gami octopus circle hooks, not bad hooks at all , the issue with carp is they have to be small enough for the carp to take but strong enough to not bend out
i looked at rhe gami big rivers but they didnt have any small enough

>>1028893
>Bent out my snagging hook >>1029040
>i was using 2x gami octopus circle hooks

Ok restart your story from the beginning.

>>1029044
was fishing for carp normally, first one ran me into a tree and broke me off, second one bent out one of my 2x circle hooks,
they then werent biting anymore since i had spooked the group twice so i tied on a smallish snagging hook i had from somewhere, snagged one ( bent the snagging hook out) then a half hour or so later hooked one much better, but it had a huge peeling run and once again bent out the snagging hook,

i had both circle and snagging hook bend out today,
i have some slightly larger size ( slightly thicker) circle hooks il use next time, then some huge 8/0 snagging hooks i bought today

>>1029049
actually now i think of it the smaller circle hoos i used today may not have been 2x, the larger ones i have are, hopefully theyll be enough

>>1028884
for panfish and trout i use my 4 weight, it makes bull bluegill feel huge and trout feel a lot more fun
for the bulk of my fishing i use a 6 weight, because its light enough for bluegill to be fun but heavy enough to even get pretty decent fish, and for bigger things (pike, carp, steelhead) i use an 8. my 4 weight and 8 weight are the cabela's 3 forks, and i really like them, as much if not more than my 6 weight fenwick eagle fly rod.
>>1028886
>Sorry
no worries, i knew what you meant. i really want to get a 2 weight too
>>1028976
i think they're a meme, i tie my own leaders and the fish like them just fine, and if you use tippet rings, the tapered leaders you buy last almost indefinately
>>1029035
dont tell me how to catch my fish

>>1029055
>dont tell me how to catch my fish

You are one of the few ok ones. You would make a fly out of dried cum and ass hair and elmers glue it to a paper clip from a restraining order and then post the 70lb carp you caught with it.

>>1029055
>Tippet rings
>the tapered leaders you buy last almost indefinitely
Maybe if you're an actually good fly fisherman and don't get wind knots in it. If I get a full day of fishing out of 1 mono leader before it's got a dozen knots I can't pick out, I'm doing good.

Part of that is everywhere I fish has long+steep banks or overhanging trees so I get hung up with some regularity.
>fuck you oakfish

>>1028986
>Things that never happened

>>1029055
I'm pretty fucking happy with my Echo Solo.

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Haven't fished Florida in Forever. What's this I hear about needing a fishing license to fish anything but a Pier? If I want to fish a beach or some random canal do I really need a license?

Question two: Would I realistically learn anything useful from a book like this if I want to fish south florida?

>>1029093
I don't even know exactly how it works. For a resident, I normally have a freshwater and salt from shore permit. The fresh is $17 and then the salt from shore is free somehow. Salt from a boat is another $17 So if you did that, the license says:
-Freshwater $17.00
-Salt Shoreline $0.00
-Salt Offshore $17.00
-License Fee $0.50
-Total: $34.50

Or some shit like that. At piers, you normally pay $1 or $2 and that covers your license. But idk about just fishing an inlet or off the beach, do they expect you to go to Walmart and get a saltwater shoreline license for 50¢?

And the book, just ask a local bait shop instead.

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I can get just over 300yds off the spool with a 4 oz weight on my 12' Penn Battalion. I want to see if I can increase my casting distance with thinner braid. Essentially, I'd like to use this spare spool to see what my setup can really do. Advise? Thanks!

>>1029065
i mean, i dont think you're completely wrong with that pattern, but probably not that big of a carp
>>1029072
the thing is, if you get wind knots and burn through leaders, then the furrled leader will fuck up quickly too
>>1029089
i might have to check those out
>>1029095
im willing to bet they do

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>>1029095
>I don't even know exactly how it works.

Thanks for trying.

>>1029097
>300 yards
wew. That's a shot.

>>1029101
Or you could Google it.

But it's gubbermint so Skid agrees that they might want you to go and get the license which is technically free aside from the $0.50 fee you have to pay the retailer for printing it.

>>1029109

Where do you even get the license? can I walk into a Publix & walk out with a sub & a license & then hit up any beach I want?

>>1029097
i'd say throw some 20 or 30 pound powerpro slick on there and a #50-#80 shock tippet held on with an fg knot and whip it with like 5 oz of lead

want to respool my salt setup , for hucking 2 ounce plugs all day, should i drop down to 40?

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Thinking of 30# braid for the Curado since it'll hold 190 yards.

>>1029097
Holy shit that's a fuckin cast lol

>>1029095
Paying 1 or 2 dollars to fish a pier?

>>1028694
I buy tackle at least two times a week. My dad always bust my balls about it and tells me I'm more tackle collector than a fisher.

>>1028152
>$1,500 bass boat with no outboard motor or carpet.
???
who pays 1500 for a bass boat with no motor

>>1028718
would trick worms actually get bitten if you used them with a bobber?

>>1029272
Maybe.
Only one way to find out.

I'm going to start tying hair/marabou jigs for trout and smallies. I got some crystal flash and black + pink marabou.
Does jig head color matter? Atm just have like 20 yellow 1/8 oz jig heads. Id prefer buying a cheap bulk of non painted ones.

>>1029272
Yea bobber would work. Bobber is just sort if a reverse drop shot rig, where you have the tension from the top instead of bottom.

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>>1026725
Would I be taking a trip to Snap City if I tried to throw a 3/4 oz Flatt Shad on a rod only rated for 1/2 oz shit?

>>1029272
I would wacky rig it but I'm sure something would eat it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmchNnzytk


this is interesting, i kinda wanna try it.

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>>1029322
Ive thrown 3/8th oz jig heads on an ultra light and got pic related, working it on the bottom.

>>1029146
I've got mine spooled with 40 for frogging. It bombs those little spro jr's
>>1029322
Should be fine. Just don't whip it as hard as you can. You will know if it's not going to work when you tie it on

>>1029322
Nah. You won't be able to throw it as far since the rod won't unload right, but it'll handle it.

>1029115
Anyplace that has a sporting goods section should be able to hook you up.

>>1029115
Kek idk if Publix sells em. Any Walmart or sporting goods store will sell them, any tackle shop, even some of the little corner stores that sell bait might sell them.

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Anybody in South Carolina wanna help me get started fishing? I've been wanting to learn for a while now.

>>1028305
It's a wonderful rod. Love it.

>>1028305
Best rod I have ever used for <$50

when your line is running a bit low do you just tie more on and top it up?

or do respool the whole thing

Hey guys, going to my friends cottage on Lake Erie for the weekend.

Any locals here willing to share tips on lures / depths

>>1029484
I'm one the retards who dumps and respools the whole thing.
It's one less knot for my fat fingers to fumble over, plus I KNOW that I've got good line on my reel in case a huge fish unexpectedly chows down on my lure.

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>>1029484
If you are outcasting the amount of line you have on the spool, you probably should respond it. But if you just need to fill up the spool, you might be best off just throwing some backing on the spool. How to:
1) cast a sinker as far as you can.
2) strip off the rest of the line into the water.
3) secure to end of your line to something
4) arbor knot some backing onto the spool (more is better than less)
5) albright your old line to your backing
6) reel in the rest of your line
*7) if your added too much backing, carefully recast (don't birdsnest), cut away some excess backing, rety your arbor knot, and reel it in.

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Late night egging; I love fighting those bastards way more than stupid calamari...

>>1029320
No not really, I've caught flounder on beaten to shit bucktails.

>>1029522
Nice! The korean tackle shop sells eging jigs but I haven't seen anyone catching squid up here in ny. Does night fishing work better?

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>>1029525
here in the Mare Nostrum the best season starts from May till November when those little fuckers leave their homes 200 fucking meters under the sea and start comming close to the shore to eat and fuck. I have found that early morning and late evening are the best times for cuttlefish shore egi(in contrast with squids that
usualy come ashoret late at night). Ofc as for boat fishing you can fish them any time of the day no problem.

>>1029522
They fight good compared to fish of a similar size?

>>1029533
We don't have cuttlefish on the east coast. Just squid, I gotta stop by the korean tackle shop and ask them about squid fishing. I really want to eat some fresh squid ink spagetti

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>>1029556
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>>1029556
>>1029556

>>1029026
I'm currently using a floating furled leader made by Moonlit, and it certainly does the job. Most of the furled leaders I've used are from Cutthroat, and I've seen their leaders more commonly in fly shops.

>>1027736
the crappie is luck if it's 8 inches