Homegrowmen Thread #89

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Beppers are love. Beppers are life.

>>1008694
>>1008698
MODS!

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>tfw finding the first Colorado potato beetle and a clutch of its eggs on my potato plants.

>>1008598
Squash bug, kill it.

>>1008696
grow well justin bebber

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DFW bro here. Whats happening to my cucumbers and squash? They're all losing their green, no wilt, all flowering. Has happened over the course of I would say 1-2 weeks.

I went out and got 13-13-13 fertilizer. I'm not an organic geek so I'm cool with it. Bag called for 2lbs per 100sqft and mix it in or if already established do 1lb. I did ~18.5oz for my three beds which is 96sqft. I also applied some egg shell dust to the soil (only had enough for 1 bed so far) and about 0.5-1Tbsp of Epsom salt around each plant. Also did 1Tbsp w/ 1 gal of water foliar spray.

Tha only thing I can think of now is over watering. I have had a few days of watering and then it rained. After watering all this stuff in I am letting it air out. It isn't soaked, just damp. Not sure what's up. This is 100% compost so I wouldn't be surprised if trace minerals lacked but I just don't know. I thought compost was the king dick of the garden.

>>1008789
I should clarify: I applied that stuff yesterday** and am patiently waiting. These plants aren't losing green because of it, yet.

>>1008789

let the earth dry before watering again. don't add more shit, just step back and let them do their thing. most likely they're stressed from the moisture; squash and cucumbers like sandy soil and hot weather. if you think you need to water, stick your finger into the soil. if there's moisture within the top two inches, don't water.

when it gets hot during the summer, water in the evening or morning, never during the day. get the roots, avoid misting the leaves; you'll just cause a fungal outbreak.

compost is the king dick but you can have too much of a good thing. i don't think you over did it. but you are probably over watering

Why are peppers so popular for gardening?

>>1008860
Memes? Colorful? Lots of bang for little amount of fruit?

As opposed to disappointing Tomatoes or bell peppers.

>>1008860
Requirements for being a homegrowmen:
1. Lemon tree
2. Put an avocado pit in water
3. Grow more peppers than one person could ever manage

>>1008880
why do people put their avocado pits in water?
I put two in water, another 4 in compost soil, and one in normal soil, all at the same time. The ones in compost soil went batshit and are now trees, while one of the water ones died. The last water 'cado finally sprouted after fucking weeks and I planted it yesterday. Right now it's sitting next to its scrawny tree cousins looking like the guy who did special-ed. Ffs.

My rosemary plant is under attack by some pest.

They make a foamy white net under the leaves and between the leaves and stems in dense locations.

This is not the first time this plant has been under such an attack.
Last time I remove the most damages leaves showered it, sprayed it with soapy water.

This time it is worse. I did the same thing as before but as I was cleaning the plant I noticed few points where the bugs had made it into the wood.

I heavily washed these locations with liquid soap and put it outside to dry.

Should I better get a new baby rosemary plant and start again or should I keep trying with the current one?

Pictures at https://imgur.com/a/QavPE

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Added a small broad bean seedling and 4 french bean ones in front.

Why do french bean grow so damn slow?

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Only 1 of 9 tomato seeds sprouted and it just won't grow.

REEEEE

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It barely even had roots. Any suggestions?

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>>1008929
That looks like scale insects. Did you try rubbing alcohol on them with a cotton swab? It takes a long time to do but that might work.
Soapy water may just slide on their wax scale if it's not surfactant enough.

You can also try to buy green lacewing, hover-flies or Cryptolaemus montrouzieri eggs or larvas. The Cryptolaemus montrouzieri's larvas in particular are very active against scale insect.

>>1008880
>tfw check for all three

I want to use a fish bowl as a sort of semi terrarium for some carnivorous plants. I have a bowl at home of about 20cm diameter, but the walls are maybe 2mm thick, and I don't have any experience with goldfish so no idea if it's even a fish bowl. Would it be strong enough to fill it with peat, moss, water and plants or is it just a decorative glass bowl?

>>1008950
Fill with water and pick it up using the glass bezel. If it survives that it's strong enough.

>>1008696
SLEEP TIGHT MELLER

>>1008941
I washed the plant with alcohol. I hope I didn't used too much.

Are these scale insects attacking one plant contagious to other plants? Should I isolate the rosemary from the other?

>>1008789
Too much water. Those types of plants really need well draining soil. You can tell because the bottom leaves start to get yellow first. If that is mulch, remove it. Plug, the watering holes in the tubes for them. Allow the soil to dry out a bit between waterings.

>This is 100% compost

This is the problem. You need to add sand to aid in drainage. Their root ball will be smallish still and you could replant them so to mix in sand (2 parts sand or more to 3 parts compost.) This will set back your plant production by about a week normally. The soil compacted into the root ball may not need to be disturbed, if there's enough drainage around it.

Hilling them up also helps.

>>1008940
>>1008939
Low soil temps and too wet/not enough drainage? How old is it? You really shouldn't move them until they have 4 real leaves.

>>1008883
Because of the internet.

Nitrogen content of the soil aids in seed germination for many types of plants. If there's not enough, the seed won't germinate or may take ages to germinate. Judging solely by your experience, I'd say that avocado is one of those types of plants that also needs a nitrogen trigger to germinate the seed.

>>1008929
You can save it. Cover the soil with a plastic bag, take it to your shower, and use the sprayer to spray the hell out of the bottoms of the leaves. Don't spray so hard that it darkens the leaves, that causes damage, but spray it as hard and close as you can. Do this every single day for up to a week. If you have a garden hose, use that instead. Apply soapy water mist after you are done spraying each time. Make sure it gets under the leaves. Be thorough when hosing it off.

>>1008968
I followed the other guy's advice about alcohol. If tomorrow I notice the pest came back I'll follow yours and shower it everyday.

>>1009015
The water method is just one method and doesn't require the application of industrial chemicals (the soap is completely optional and I don't personally use it). That's all.

>>1008696
Grow well, little pepper!

>>1008860
>>1008876
>Memes?
They are fairly new, aren't they?

>Colorful?
This! Pepper plants look amazing, there is a reason why arethere ornamental varieties just bred for their looks.
But even the non-ornamentals look amazing.
Also they flower very nicely.

>Lots of bang for little amount of fruit?
Also this. They are great to grow in little space. A single tomato or cucumber plant give you a few meals, but one or two cayennes in pots give you spice for a long time.

Also they are rather though and easy to grow, don't need much and grow well.
Easy, fast success for gardening newbies.


>>1008880
>3. Grow more peppers than one person could ever manage
Bwhahahahahahaha ....I mean, uhm yes, that's me.

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>>1008939
>>1008940
Go with the trend, grow peppers.
Same setup like you, but pic related.

>>1009099
What kind of light is that?

>>1009133
looks like the same LED grow lights I have, see

https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Spectrum-Seedlings-Hydroponics-Swithch/dp/B01LX1EO3W/ref=sr_1_18?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1494087710&sr=1-18&keywords=grow+lights

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They gifted me a rose plant a few days ago and the outer petals are starting to turn green on the middle.
Advice?

>>1009133
>>1009144
Pretty much, but I use this model.
https://www.amazon.com/Lights-Hgrope-Flexible-Gooseneck-Greenhouse/dp/B018HQSXB6/ref=sr_1_15?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1494088862&sr=1-15&keywords=grow+lights

Also when your plants get bigger and take up more space, direct the light to a mirror or something.
Also helps with plants leaning towards a single, confined light source.

>>1009159
>>1009144
Interesting, is red and blue light good for plants?
I'm thinking about doing some indoor gardening too because I don't have much of an outdoor garden or sun for that matter.
I thought lights were just supposed to be bright.

>>1009217
The led lights are supposed to put out a move specific spectrum of light for the plants, making them equivalent to stronger lights while using less electricity. I say supposed because quality can really very on those. Blue is for growing and red is for flowering.

>>1009223
quality can really vary*

>>1009148
Sometimes a florist will spray the leaves with a green dye/paint in order to keep them looking green even though they are dying/yellowing. The rose will take up this dye and express it in the blooms. However, older flowers do this occasionally, without dyes. Just because the blooms are old.

>>1009228
doesnt mean im fucking it up?

>>1009230
No, they are just older now.

>>1009239
thanks!

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Put in some drip irrigation today. Two drippers per bale, and two 180* sprayers at each side of the beds.

The bales have started turning into chia pets, but I'm okay with that. The cover will help keep moisture in

I also am in the process of putting up chicken wire because fuck squirrels.

>>1008696
Grow well, little pepper!

>>1009260
>the naughty bricks are censored

Now I've seen literally everything.

the tips of my shallots leaves are turning yellow and dieing.
What is causing this?

>>1009312
Too much water, not enough drainage.

>>1009380
>not enough drainage.

Shit that is probably it....
I planted them in very shallow pots and im afraid there is nothing i can do about it now

If i dig them up and repot them will they recover?

>>1008962
Usually you'd want to use a cotton swab only, because I don't know what effects it may have to soak an entire plant in alcohol...
It's why it takes so much time, there's always a forgotten insect somewhere or a left egg. Though it can become a simple daily routine during a few weeks. I succeed like that on a dracaena.
Anyway yes, scale insect are contagious. Though the less there are on a plant, the less they are prone to move to another. I would however isolate the rosemary form the other plants.

>>1008968 >>1009015 >>1009023
I usually also recommend to shower the plant for a lot of insect (like aphids), but honestly on scale insect it seems to me to be inefficient. It simply slips on them.

>>1009260
I've seen the hay bales in other grow threads. What are they for?

>>1009385
>If i dig them up and repot them will they recover?

Probably.

>>1009386
Water hose in the yard every day was the only way I was able to save a lemon tree from scales. You have to manually remove the adults, but the nymphs and such can be dislodged with hard water spray.

>>1009397
You plant directly in them like a container.

https://www.google.com/search?q=straw+bale+planter&tbm=isch

You should use "straw" not "hay". The straw will have most seeds removed. While hay has all the seeds.

>>1009405

Those are straw, just very poorly harvested straw.

>>1009412
Yeah, most companies have a listed % of seed though, I find that it is BS. Thankfully, my gardening needs weeds for a portion of the season to act as interference for slugs.

I just found out the roots of a tree nearby have been climbing into my garden and there are a shit ton of them. Do I just have to man up and dig a trench around my garden and use those root shields? I'm dreading the work it's gonna take to dig around the whole thing

>>1009405
>You plant directly in them like a container.
How does that work?
Does straw really have nutrients comparable to soil? How do the plants absorb it if the straw isn't decomposed?

>>1009455
Mycorrhizae break down the straw and feed the nutrients to the plants in exchange for sugar water.

>>1009443
Don't you have a wall around your garden?

>>1009474
An above ground one with some stones and a small plastic one that doesn't go deep underground to keep out grass

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The temps are supposed to go down to 42F tonight. Monday morning it is supposed to be 15F.

>>1009490
tent time

>>1009496
Yup, I think I have enough bedsheets, buckets, and plastic.

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>>1009144
>>1009159
Beware that the two LED lights you guys linked are pretty low output, and should be no really close to your plants (especially the 5W longneck one)

pic is ~100W and needs to run a few hours longer than daylight for the same effect on a whole card table (based on quantum sensor readings IIRC)

>>1008696
Grow well, little pepper!

Grow well, little pepper!
And I want to see a progress report really badly.

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>>1009455

Circled in red is a tomato plant in soil.

The tomato in the circle and the tomato in the right hand bale were the same variety, planted at the same time, from the same vendor.

Soil tomato did not produce a single tomato all season. Bale produced enough tomatoes from the right hand bale to make a batch of ketchup and a bunch of BLTs.


It could have been that my soil mix was shit, but I think the real magic happens when the bacteria generate heat composting the straw. They keep the root ball nice and warm earlier in the season, which tomatoes love.

Your mileage may vary, please consult a physician if growth lasts longer than 2 seasons.

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>>1009643
>Bale produced enough tomatoes from the right hand bale

sorry, must have forgot how to words

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Zone 6a here, this weather sucks.

It was impossible to harden my tomato seedlings properly because it has been cloudy / thunderstorming nearly every fucking day here so I haven't been able to ramp them into sunlight conditions as slow as I wanted. Then we finally get one day of sun and they get lightly sunburned anyways, RIP.

Now I go out to check on them and some of their leaves are drooping likely because its about to drop into the fucking 30s outside. I brought them all in and it looks like they'll live, but their growth is probably stunted to shit because of all of this.

Anybody else know this feel?

>>1009649
get some shade cloth

>>1009595
Mine are under a south facing window, so the lamp is only supplementary and to avoid leaning in plants with suboptimal spots (there are always some).
Worked pretty well so far.
But it's only peppers, other plants might be more demanding.

>>1008938
Try trimming some of the leaves shadowing the new plants?

>>1009643
What all is involved in planting in straw bales? Do you have to manually introduce the bacteria to break down the straw? Do you have to feed it anything special?
Or can I just soak a straw bale and put some seeds in it and let it go?

>>1009713
>>1009643
While there are bacteria present, the main function is actually the fungai (Mycorrhizae).

>>1009713
You should water the bale, allow the initial heat to die down then plant in it. Planting too soon can simply cook your seeds/plant roots. Though, that can depend on how packed/heavy the bale is. A 20lbs bale won't get very hot but a 80lbs bale, the same size, will be insanely hot inside.

>>1009649
Shade cloth and polytunnel.

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WAKE ME UP

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>>1009745
aftermath

>>1009745
>>1009746
Oh shit, are those silkworms?

>>1009720
Is the fungi naturally present in the straw?

Also, is it best to dig a hole to set the bale in, or leave it sitting on top of the ground like a pot of sorts?

>>1009099
Fucking meme plants.

>>1009754
apple ermines, I boiled those niggas up because the birds in my garden are too fucking lazy to take care of them

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>frost incoming

I've been gathering materials to put over plants nearly all week. I still need to get some more plastic, but I think I have enough bed sheets, buckets, cups, and flower pots to make due. I really need to get some UV protected plastic. That right most polytunnel was used for 1 winter in 2013 and is to the point where this will be its last season. It has that feel like it will suddenly go brittle and crack up soon. Maybe I'll get a glass greenhouse up this year...

>>1009755
The spores are present just about everywhere. Most of the time you'll see inkcaps popup out of the wet straw.

>dig a hole to set the bale in

I really think it is up to you. If your climate is very arid then you make want to dig a hole for half of it and use the excess dirt to mound around the sides. Otherwise, just lay it on the ground. They make instant raised beds. I don't really use them myself ($7 a bale here!). If I did, which I might in the future, I'd use them in place of good soil in new raised beds, until there was enough soil to replace them. Of course they would become compost over time.

>>1009745
>>1009746
>D•E•V•A•S•T•A•T•I•O•N

Cheeky buggers. I pulled an early nest of tent caterpillars from one of my peach trees about a month ago. The chickens seem half interested in them. I don't think they like them very well.

Tents are done, but it looks like some of the tomatoes already have blight.

Worst. Spring. Ever.

>>1009782
>($7 a bale here!)

I paid $8 a bale, but it was still cheaper and easier that making raised beds.

What did you use for the ribs of your tunnels? PVC?

>>1009755

I usually stand mine up on some bricks to allow drainage, but it's not required. You can see when the bales start draining water and know that they're "saturated".

The top most bales in >>1009260 are sitting on 9 bricks each, while the middle ones are just sitting on decorative gravel.

Also worth mentioning, the "direction" of the straw can impact how things grow. I'm experimenting this season with half of the bales cut side up, and the other half cut side perpendicular to the ground. Every guide I read said to put the cut ends up, but make sure the string is on the side of the bale. Well, the straw sold around here is baled with the cut ends and the string on the same side, so go figure.

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>>1008238
Day 14.

So, peppers are permanent plants, right?

>>1009631
>>1009902

>>1009906
Basically, if you keep them out of the cold.

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>>1009828
>What did you use for the ribs of your tunnels? PVC?

Mostly used, black plastic, natural gas pipe(1.5"?) from a local gas company. There's 1 joint of 1/2" PVC pipe and 4 joints of 1/2", grey, conduit pipe. I also cut up an old roll of old, 1", black plastic, water pipe. The grey conduit pipe was actually the easiest to work with.

> baled with the cut ends and the string on the same side

Someone doesn't know how to use the baler. lol Actually, those may be "double compressed", which are normally banded the other direction, but some machines use 3 pieces of twine in the normal direction. They are normally really really heavy. Like 100-150lbs.

>>1009822
One of my watermelon plants has started to go limp. It probably doesn't like this cold or something is munching on the roots with all this rain.

>Worst. Spring. Ever.

The most bipolar for sure. I'm hoping my fruit trees don't get zapped by frost tomorrow and Tuesday. They are the only things I don't cover. I've not had mulberries for many years now and there's a bumper crop of them coming on.

>>1009906
Yes. I overwinter mine inside since I live in an area that is far too cold for them in the winter. If it snows in your area, you'll need to bring them inside or put a polytunnel with heat on them. Tomato plants are much the same, though after 3-5 years they tend to succumb to some disease.

>>1009159
Dont use a mirror. Use a matt white board. Mirror dont reflect the right frequencies of light.

>>1010013
A mirror works fine, it is just unnecessary, and can cause hot spots on plants.

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Hey guys, i have several glass jars like pic related. I want to grow something inside my house at the windows.

Can you name a retarded-proof plant that can grow with direct sunlight but always cloudy weather? Shit is depressing here, even more with fall/winter.

Thanks in advance, nice board. Its a shame that my autism doesnt let me /out/.

>>1010054
Strawberries can easily be turned into jam and would look nice in those mason jars.

>>1010054
Bromeliads

fuck gardening in sand, pure clay is a blessing in comparison.

>Succulents growing well, giving friend one as a birthday present
>Girlfriend's mum gave me an aspidistra
>Mustard growing well in hanging planter
>Ornamental cabbage growing in bathroom
>Spinach growing in window box
>Just planted chilli in the window box too

Do you guys grow plants inside your house? It really makes it feel more homely.

>>1010054
Peppers, but they aren't retard proof.

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Garden Update: FROST PROOF EDITION

This took longer than expected. Now I've ensured that it won't even frost at all until I take it all down.

>>1010054
Garlic and onion. Use bulbs/starts instead of seeds/bulbils. They grow really well in jars. I typically grow them in the winter for eating their green tops.

>>1010069
Add lots and lots of compost. I have pure clay. It is depressing watching your clay-bound plants never really growing at all while the plants in soil I've made grow better than anything ever. I truck in sand to add to my compost to create what I use in my beds.

>>1010085
I need more windows on the correct side of my house to grow more indoors. As it is, I only grow stuff in winter for use outside in the vegetable garden.

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>1st strawberries of the season

>>1010110
Use straw to keep them off the ground.

>>1010137
Too early for straw. It is still the rainy season. Straw will only create a massive slug problem. Right now, only isopods are a small problem.

gave the fuck up on "organic" leaf miner control, bought pharmaceutical grade pesticide and fuck it

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>>1009908
Yup I saw and got really excited

>>1010108

How are the wasps?

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moved to a new city and going to try my hand at balcony container gardening

set up pick related today with hanging tomatoes and peppers on the top, might try a few other container types

>>1010187
https://earthtainer.tomatofest.com/

honest to god if I lived in an apartment with a balcony I would be using this, I used this last year with an 18 gallon container, I planted two tomato plants and both grew to about 5 feet, huge yield

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I grow some corn and it seem they are awfully close to each other, they are around 3-4 inches high. Should I move them apart or just leave it there?

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>>1009239
Excuse me, this just happened overnight.
Fungi?

>>1010263
book said something about growing them in bunches because they wind pollinate so you might be good.

>>1010328
Square formation instead of two row.

>>1008789
I'd say that there is a lack of microelements.

>>1009754
>>1009782
do you guys think I can hose down the remaining caterpillars out of my reach? They are too high in the tree for me to grab

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Im the anon asking for advice on jasmines last thread. I finally bought a spanish jasmine but it has two main problems.
Does this look like overwatering?

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>>1010352
And the most recent leaves have this kind of brown. Any diagnostics?

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>>1010108
The sun hasn't even come up, to shine on everything. It is colder than what was predicted too. Covering everything just from the cold was a good idea anyway. The metal lid on the chicken feed, patches of dry yard clippings, and the new compost pile is covered in frost due to being insulated from the ground.

>>1010185
I haven't closed in one end, so I'm not sure there are any in the wasp hotel. However, there's more and more under all the red bricks. So many, that it actually makes the wasp hotel obsolete. I can still stuff the hotel with other things for other beneficial insects at least.

>>1010263
Actually, you are supposed to plant them close, but thin them out to 8-10 inches apart. When they are really close like that, you use scissors to chop off all the smaller ones when the largest of them are 6 inches high. Don't try to move them. Corn is one of those plants you need to plant far more than you think in order to get better yields (they wind pollinate and need lots of plants close by) and to survive the many diseases and pests they get.

There's some good info in this, from the guy who developed painted mountain corn,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MZli6pK-Q

The difference between his methods and mine is that I don't use rows and I select for tillers while he removes the ones with tillers.

>>1010287
It might be physical damage to the area. I think I see a spot where something ate or hit that lowest, left most petal and removed a portion.

>>1010339
That happens when there's too much water since the roots can't uptake nutrients as well as normal.

>>1010345
Most likely not. They tend to grab hold too hard. You may need to use a long pole/stick with a bit of wire on the end to dislodge and smoosh them.

>>1010352
Not overwatering. There would be yellow leaves somewhere near the bottom if it was overwatering. Wilting from overwatering takes a very long time to occur and usually occurs because of fungi or fungus gnat larva eating the roots.

The way the stem is wrinkled in that section when compared to the bottom portion makes me thing it is some physical damage at the top of that arch. Do any other parts of the plant have the same problem on the other side?

>>1010353
It is actually a reddish tint that makes them look brown. It is common for new leaves to look like that on some species more than others. It is a build up of anthocyanins which will go away as they get older.

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>>1010247
>https://earthtainer.tomatofest.com/
cheers m8, I have a bunch of totes and was thinking of using them, might as well give that mod a try

>>1010088
Sure they are. Just get a few garden center hybrids.

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Most of my peppers were transplanted to these pots 2~3 weeks ago, so far I gave them a tiny bit of fertilizer once, and watered about once a week.
Some of them are going mad with roots, the pots are seethrough and I can see them all over the side, reaching the bottom, but show little new growth, while existing leaves seem to be growing in size.
Others have (relative) little root growth, just a few showing on the side, maybe one or two going all the way down, but have tons of new growth, with existing leaves staying more or less the same size.
And then there's two of em that both have deep roots & new growth.
Any idea why? Is it just the type of pepper?
Also, at what point of rootgrowth should I consider transferring em to a bigger pot?
Pic is caramel bhut jolokia vs cap 1166.

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And an example of the rootgrowth

>>1010366
Thanks for the for the corn advice, I was thinking of moving them until I did a bit more research with the thing you said.

>>1010367
>You may need to use a long pole/stick with a bit of wire on the end to dislodge and smoosh them.

thanks for the tip, I managed get rid of most of them. I noticed they are starting to spread to my apple trees, although they are in a much early state than the ones depicted in my pictures

I'm in full panic mode now I'll have to monitor the situation very closely

>>1010451
I suppose using a fogger would be your last resort. This is one of those times a trained monkey would be nice. lol

>>1008929

Mealybug infestation.

Take it into the shower or deck and spray with rubbing alcohol. Rinse with water. Check underside and lip of pot to see if any are nesting there. Spray there as well, or wide with alcohol. May also be advisable to remove old soil if they have started to live there.

Repeat applications of rubbing alcohol spray on a weekly basis until you see no more of them. Mealy are slow insects that you don't notice until they have a huge population boom, and can be dealt with.

>>1010466
nah I'll just relentlessly check my apple trees everyday I should be good, just wish the fauna would give me an hand

wtf are the birds doing? Does nobody feed on those bastards?

>>1010417
>>1010420
I'd say it's just individual or variety variance. I transplant them in a bigger pot when roots really start to reach the side of the pot, though I try to not wait for them to be root-bound. Another element I look for is an equivalence between foliage and root volume.

How is my watermelon plant?

>>1010493
Parasitic wasps are the main predator.

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My broad bean plants a couple of days ago.

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The broad bean plants currently.

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Runners on one of my plants.

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My question:
I feel like my plants are turning into bushes. It's getting increasingly hard to tie them to a stake because of all the vines going up.

Looking online I only see plants with a single vine.

Should I have trimmed the new runners and kept it to a single vine on the stake? Obviously I am too late to cut it back to only a single vine now, but should I trim down new runners?

>>1010576
>Parasitic wasps
actually saw a big fucking one as I was doing the dirty job, how can I welcome them to my garden? What do they nest in?

>>1010587
>>1010588
>>1010590
Those are so different looking. Use a lattice instead of single poles. It won't matter too much about the side runners.

>>1010420
So obviously the perlite is for keeping the ground light and full of air right? What are the little balls for?

>>1010596
Different looking? What do you mean? Everywhere online I see poles. Lattice wouldn't be ideal since I am planning on increasing my broadbean patch a lot.

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>>1010367
The flowers at the bottom lool like this but i assumed it was lack of magnesium. Im trying to add fertilizer to fix it. Maybe it os overwatering? Even though it could be damage from wind

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>>1010571

>>1010417
>>1010420
Some varietes prefer to have more space while others do fine in smaller, confined pots. Just repot them. But disentangle the roots a little, the will not grow outward else.

>>1010613
Some of my peppers got so many roots while waiting in their pots for transplantation, they got literally pushed out of the earth, and fell over.

>everything planted last week isn't growing because of clouds and cold
>have to move everything not planted back inside because it even colder now
>weather wont get better for the next 1 1/2 weeks

I'm about to sacrifice a goat.

I have dry pepper seeds from 2012. Is it worth it to try to plant them?

>>1010619
and thus religion was created

>>1010669
If you kept them in a dry and dark place they'll all sprout. Hell, I am still using pumkin seeds that I harvested in 2001. Sowed 20 last month, 19 sprouted.

>>1010689
Nice

>>1010600
Different because they are so short and bushy with so many flowers to bunched up together.

>>1010602
The yellowing is normally from overwatering. Too much water interferes with nutrient uptake. If you rule out overwatering then it may be nutrient deficiency.

>>1010609
Looking good.

>>1010619
Poly tunnels.

It is supposed to be colder tonight than last night, where I live.

>>1010669
Try germinating them in a bag with a moist paper towel in a warm area (85F at least). The seeds themselves will need light too.

>>1010689
>>1010691
To be completely fair I should mention that I keep my seeds in a pitch black, air tight box with a moisture absorber. My oldest seeds are aloe polyphylla seeds from 1998.

>>1010693
>Poly tunnels.
I have everything out there covered good. Soil temps are what I'm worried about now, with no sun and the temp being 35-55 for a week straight.

>>1010619
The weather this year really has been absolute dogshit. Even the plants growing inside are messed up because of it. I bet the summer is going to be excruciatingly hot so everything will wilt as soon as it gets the chance to grow, too.

>>1010700
Poly plus black plastic mulch will help soil temps. I've been keeping my stuff covered for a while now to ensure higher soil temps.

>>1010619
>>1010693
Yuros too or does 'Murrica also get hit by a cold wave the next couple nights?
Luckily in my part it's supposed to "only" drop down to about 4°C/39°F at worst

>>1010593
jesus I'm a fucking dumbass for even asking nvm

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>>1010742
Forgot pic

>>1010742
American. Really weird spring. It keeps getting colder when it should be getting warmer.

>>1010748
Yeah, here too April was more like October. Warm in the beginning, cold at the end. All the fruit trees flowered and were partially even past that stage, then many got hit by frost in late April
I also lost 9 out of 26 tomato plants which I planted in the garden late March, but interestingly no pepper

>>1010744
>eisscheiß
heh

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Mycologist checking in. Anyone have questions about growing fungi? Manipulating them? I am your man.

The SRA propagation worked well, the mycelium is taking in both the woodchip bed I started, and the plastic tub. I think me and this species are going to have a long and fruitful relationship. Fingers crossed for specimens this big or better:

>>1010791
Can you/should you grow chanterelles? Is it possible to successfully, repeatedly, grow them for a food harvest? Can you grow them on a log? In a box? With a fox? *cough*

I am serious though. Is it feasible?

>>1010791
>Manipulating them?
Will my mushrooms stay with me if I tell them they are too fat for anyone else to love?

My strawberry leaves are turning red and dying. I am in zone 5. The leaves at the center are still green but they seem to be stalled in growth. They are planted in a topsoil/compost mix. Last night it was 34 F. Help?

>>1010597
Correct on the perlite.
The balls are expanded clay, they hold some moisture, and prevent the soil from clogging the drainage holes.

>>1010613
>>1010504
Cheers.

>>1010793
Successfully yes, repeatably, no, economically viably, no. Some french guy sterilized doug fir seedlings and planted them in sterile soil with chanterelle spores added, and after 7 years of managing what was basically a sterile orchard he was able to get a tiny harvest of them. Noone was able to repeat his work. Another thing people do is spray down areas with spore liquids, and that has occasional success, but is extremely unpredictable, and unrepeatable. For the time being it is not feasible.
Mycorrhizal species do not take well to cultivation, although people have been pulling it off with black truffles.

>>1010795
No, you need to be a lot more clever than that. Spread false rumors and get all of its friends to slowly build resentment, and then with the community support you can begin to convince them they are worthless trash unloved by everyone but you.

>>1010802
I bet they need a 2nd mycorrhizal species along with them in their network to work properly. You'd need to do genetic testing to see what else they are tied up with down there.

>>1010791
1. plant oaks
2. plant truffles
3. wait 30 years for oaks to grow
4. buy expensive truffle doggo
5. ??
6. get rich

is it this simple ? there probably is a catch right

>>1010818
>is it this simple

Nope.

>there probably is a catch right

Yup. You use hazelnut trees.

>>1010821
>You use hazelnut trees
welp, i'll stick to strawberries

>>1009148
Add wood ash to the watering. Once or twice a month.

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>>1010813
Actually one of the biggest issues with cultivating chanterelles is the competition posed by other mycorrhizae. Mycorrhizal species exhibit intense competition over any available root space, which is why spore slurries are unpredictable; most if not all roots in a full grown tree are already colonized by something, leaving no space for any new bonds to form when the spores germinate.

However, chanterelles have bacteria embedded in their tissue (really annoying when trying to isolate on agar), and I would hazard a guess that there is a bacterial component missing in the controlled cultivation setting.

>>1010818
This is literally it. You buy up a ton of farmland, and amend to soil to where it is very alkaline. You are mimicking the soil in France where the truffles are native to. Then, you get sterile black oak seedlings and expose them to spores in sterile soil until a mycorrhizae is formed. After you are sure it is fully colonized, you plant them in your amended soil, and wait decades. It sounds ridiculous, but some truffle farmers have actually trained themselves to smell truffles, they are not good enough at it to figure out where exactly they are (they use dogs for that) but the farmers use their noses to determine when the truffles are ripe for harvest. Due to the long wait times on tree maturity, the industry is pretty small, but obviously the demand for truffles makes it a smart investment for the future.

>>1010830
cigarette ash works?

>>1010821
Hazelnut trees are also used. It depends on the truffle species, and your local climate. My old neighbors entire source of income was inoculating hazelnut orchards in Oregon, letting the farmers supplement their income with something other than just hazelnuts. I like the idea, two birds with one stone.

>>1010590
Broad beans are not so lovers of sunlight, rather grow among taller plants.

>>1010837
No! Natural wood, dried branches, even wood charcoal (the ashes from a barbecue)

>>1010845
dude i live in the city its not like i can fucking make a fire anywhere and buying ash seems stupid as fuck but thanks for the advice

>>1010848
Buy a charcoal grill and burn the wood in there.

>>1010835
>chanterelles have bacteria embedded in their tissue

Ahhh.

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Any advice for vegetables for someone to plant in zone 4-5? I have a limited space, a few planters and thats it thanks to HOA. I wanted to do peppers, sweet peas and catnip, but i dont know if my planters are big enough. Plus, i have a gaggle of squirrels who love to eat various flowers, so theres that.

>digging around in the garden
>bunny hops right up next to me like he's expecting me to conjure up some lettuce for him

Cheeky fucker

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will that fucking rain ever stop goddammit.

also, hey guys do you think i've got enough onions

>>1010992
It's like a giant chia pet.

>>1010926
Pretty much anything you want, just look for short season varieties. Some things have very long seasons though, like luffa sponge plants.

>>1010992
>got enough onions

Probably not.

>>1010992
Depends, which type?

>>1010818
you would be better off with morels. there are a few videos on yt. spread woodchips in shady places, mix spore broth with ash as directed, splash it everywhere, slaughter a goat and hope for adequate weather.

>>1010848 this >>1010848
don't use anything else than the ash from a log or charcoal fire that hasn't been leached by rain. don't overdo it, can go very wrong.

>>1010848 I meant this >>1010870

>>1010263
Wait until they're a inch or 2 taller and transplant the close ones so they all have 12-18" between the plants, then plant 4 climbing bean seeds at the very base of each corn plant. Wait a couple of weeks and then plant a squash plant and train it inside and around the ring of corn.
You will have big yields with low maintenance as long as you keep everything nicely watered and use some mulch.

>>1010366
Wasp hotels are pretty fun, I put one in recently but haven't had any bugs yet. Once all my brassicas have grown out I'll be growing bug atteacting plants and cover crops so i hope to see aome wasps and solitary bees etc.

>>1010590
QT beans anon, i have some coles broads going on at the moment about 20 plants or so, not sure they need any trimming though and I'm taking the approach of just leaving them be.
Are you growing any leafy greens next to the beans? They would benefit from the nitrogen nodules on the bean roots and have nice growth as a result.

>>1010870
i mean my apartment is 80 meters squared i can barely fit all my plants, buying a charcoal grill just for my rose seems way overkill

>>1011209
i guess i am not comitted enough?

>>1008692
in my village there is a lot of cow dung around, can i use it directly in plants or do i have to compost it?

>>1010926
Carrots, beats, radish
Root vegetables will do better in the cold so long as the ground doesn't freeze.
Just plan carefully due to your short growing season.

>>1011211
Compost it. Mix fresh ground charcoal in as well if you can, let sit for a couple weeks and then mix into soil

>>1011222
thanks :}

>>1011151
Thanks man, I just wish I knew how to stop the leggy-ness. Looking around online it isn't SUPER uncommon but still.. they're almost like bushes now.

I was growing some lettuce next to the beans but the soil just isn't good enough I suppose. They grow super slow and were laced in mud all the time.

Any pictures of those coles broads?

>>1010992
Holy crap, do you have a veggie shop or something? Also, what are the hoops for? Onions don't need support right?

>>1011209
Then buy a large cooking pot or something.

All you need is something fireproof that you can set outside, fill with wood, and light on fire.

>>1011019
got some expression (spanish), cabernet (red storage), norland (yellow mid storage), sierra blanca for eating fresh and cippolini onions.

>>1011235
yeah i have a small 1 acre farm, 5th season.
the hoops are for covering the seedlings with floating row cover and poly for the very cold nights (they're on a heating table).

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Colder than expected again. More frost here and there.

>>1011151
I'm patiently waiting for insect row cover material for my brassicae. Then I won't worry about caterpillars.

>>1011209
Go to a local park. Use one of their BBQ grill things on a metal pole or a camp site. Make all the ash you need.

>>1011211
>>1011222
>>1011225
Remember to add sand to the compost so it will drain water away and not be a soggy mess.

>>1011234
>how to stop the leggy-ness

Strong light and wind/fan blowing on the plants. Or, do you mean something else like side shoots?

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>>1011234

It's not a great pic as it's night and I had to go out there with the torch, but hopefully you get the idea.

The bottom half of the pic is a fake cabbage moth on a string tied to a stick, apparently it works to keep them away as they're too territorial to lay eggs where other moths are,
The fake moths have only been up for a couple of days so it's too early to tell if they're working yet.

>>1011251
Ah yes, I meant to say side shoots. There are just so many. Anyway, thanks for the response.

>>1011255
Haha, that's close to genius. Thank god those guys don't bother me.. yet.

Anyway, your broad beans look healthy.

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>tfw it is this cold and there's still a swarm of honeybees in a tree

>>1011255
>apparently it works to keep them away as they're too territorial to lay eggs where other moths are,

Interesting. I think I recall you or another anon mentioning that before. The thing is, there's more than one type of moth that lay eggs on brassica. The daytime ones that look like butterflies are the type your fakes may scare off, but the nighttime ones, which are really small and look like normal moths, won't even notice the fakes. I used deer netting one year and it kept out the butterfly-looking daytime moths, but the nighttime moths simply went through and hammered the brassicae.

>>1011261
Apparently we also get diamondback moth here and I figure that may be the moth you mean. The hope for next season is to have some parasitic wasps that'll predate them if they show up on the plants, although i've noticed i've been getting these small aphid-like critters breeding on the undersides of some leaves that may be eating the eggs; but I can't prove this.

>>1011256
I think broad beans don't require pruning of any sort, but that you can cut it about 4 inches from the ground after harvest and possibly get another crop out of the plant

>>1011256
>>1011261
Going out each morning and murdering the caterpillars is one of the great joys of my life.

>>1011264
I should add that another control for brassica is Land Cress (Barbarea vulgaris.)
Reportedly, moths favour laying their eggs on it but when they hatch and try to eat the cress, it's highly toxic and kills them off.

Sounds neat!

>>1011266
I can relate to this, but with slugs.
Setting out a grapefruit trap and shaking them off to stomp them is satisfying; can't lie about that one anon.

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>>1011264
Yeah, there are lots of stuff out there that wants to eat your plants.

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>>1011266
Last year I actually put all the hornworms into a bag so the parasitic wasps would find them and lay eggs inside. Then the parasitic wasps would multiple, but the caterpillars wouldn't be eating more of my plants. Though, this year I'll use a container/bag with slightly smaller holes.

An /hgm/ anon flipped his shit over this as animal cruelty. But, I'm still gleeful. kek

>>1011410
I'm the anon who boiled the caterpillars and I'm not too proud of me considering this. If I leave them be they fuck my shit up but if I kill them it means no offspring for the parasitic wasps. Surely someone must have thought of a practical solution like yours but maybe more sophisticated?

>>1011427
Is there maybe a species of insect on which parasitic wasps prey that won't fuck with your plants?

>>1011410
But did it actually work?

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>>1009902
>>1010166
Day 16

>>1011266
Damn, hearing people on here about cabbage moth and caterpillars makes me realise how happy I am with my side shoots. Haha!

>>1011264
Cheers, thanks for the tip!

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This is about six months growth for my lemon tree. Is this fucking right?

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>>1011452
Unsure. Some of them did get have cacoons on them after they were put into the, but I'm unsure of how long the larva were inside the caterpillars. There's a chance they were infected before being put into the bag.

>>1011427
>Surely someone must have thought of a practical solution like yours but maybe more sophisticated?

They rear the prey and wasps inside and sell the wasps online.

>>1011477
>hearing people on here about cabbage moth and caterpillars

This is what slugs and caterpillars did to my Brussels sprouts. Most of the damage was done before I put on the netting. The netting only prevented the small/large cabbage moths from getting in. The rest still got in. I spent like 45 mins a day removing 300 caterpillars a day sometimes. We have a ton of cabbage looper (Trichoplusia ni) here and they can be BT resistant too.

This wasn't even the worst of the damage to the plants.

>>1011494
Seems fine, other than the physical damage to the top.

>>1011496
Jesus, that looks painful. Well, atleast you fed nature a bit, right?

Did you try a beer trap? Or maybe installing a raised bed with a electrocuted copper wire around it?

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Is this just overwatering? My other french beans are fine.

>>1011497
Leaf miners are fucking up all my lemons

>>1011501
Those containers are the beer traps. They were full of moths, spiders, isopods, earthworms, centipedes, and slugs. The slugs are not a huge problem. Only the caterpillars are a huge problem.

>>1011506
Yeah, seems so. I'd dig it up, mix in a lot of sand with the soil, mound it up, and plant the bean plant on the top of the mound. You can also just leave it and make sure not to water it, but if it is raining in your area the past week and coming week, I'd mound it up.

How to deal with small white's caterpillars? They are fugging up my buxus

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>>1011509
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMSOP3K/ref=asc_df_B00XMSOP3K4976238/

>>1011513
I bought pesticide this Sunday. I required a final solution.

>>1011510
Cheers, I'll keep it dry and in case of rain I'll put a transparant dome on it.

Goddamn, I swear to god these Homegrownmen threads are the best thing that ever happened to 4chan.

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>>1011512
Box Tree Moth (Cydalima perspectalis)?

Contact your local priest.

https://www.ebts.org/2016/05/box-tree-moths-plague/

>>1011516
Did you try neem oil?

>>1011518
Tenting it is fine, just watch out for it being in a low spot. That might be its problem in the first place. Like all the rain water pooling there for a while and soaking in all the time.

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>>1011518
>Goddamn, I swear to god these Homegrownmen threads are the best thing that ever happened to 4chan.

We've been doing them for nearly 10 years now.

>>1011521
It's only thread #89 and we are going like 1.5 thread a week?

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>>1011523
They started on /ck/ back in 2008-2009. That image in >>1011521 is from 2009. It moved to /diy/ when it was created then moved to /out/ shortly after it was created. Most of 4chan is directed to these threads on /out/ now, it seems. We didn't even start counting threads on /out/ for a long time.

Also, 1 thread would last months. MONTHS. Here's #7 in 2013 and there's been a thread up pretty much 24/7 since then. lol Since so many people come to the threads now, including Australia now, they move along much faster. For a long time, there were only USA posters and in the winter the threads would die down to a crawl.

>>1011525
Ah, thanks for the history lesson. It's always awesome to talk to people with the same interests. I myself am a /b/ guy from back when it was only shit and not utterly shit like now. Now I'm a /pol/, /out/, /diy/ guy.

>>1011519
Neem oil didn't work, went with imidoclap or whatever since it apparently works against them

>>1011151
Crap, I already plant the squash and bean at the same time I put down corn, didn't know I have to wait later.

The chilli plug plants i ordered arrived today but they are much smaller then i expected (only about 3.5 inches )
Im worried they wont get big enough to produce in time.

>>1011246
Than no, you need more son.

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>>1011459
I love you.

>>1011665
Put them in pots and you can move them in at nights when it starts to get cooler to get some more time.

>>1011671
I love you too anon, hope you have a great day & many peppers.

>>1011665
Don't worry, most transplants are shipped around this time, and they are rarely bigger than yours. They will be fine and will give you fruit.
Also this >>1011682

>>1011665
The peppers I started from seed aren't even over 2 inches yet. The season has just begun here.

>>1010791
Where are good places to acquire mushroom samples?

Some of the edible mushrooms are easy enough to get in stores but the other kinds and other edibles I am having...great difficulty in acquiring.

>>1011879
Sometimes national parks have fungi tour hikes during rainy seasons. Spring and Fall are your best bet to find stuff in the wild. 1-3 days after a hard rain during coolish weather should reward you.

>>1010263
>>1010328

Yeah, they need to be close because pollinators aren't strong enough to carry the pollen from grasses. You need way more corns to have a successful yield, though. like 50-100 in a big rectangle, as square as possible to maximize interaction, 8"-a foot apart.

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>>1011892
Pollinators don't pollinate them because they don't have a reason to fly down to the silks. They do knock off the pollen which will fall down towards the silks. Can you imagine the yields we could get if the silks and tassels where closer together?

>>1010110
I got mine in a bucket, plants are doing great but no strawberries. I am jealous and also advice?

There is a fresh tree stump outside and I happen to have some oyster spawn, can I just drill a few hole and put the mushroom in there?

>>1011892
It a small garden so I doubt i have that much space, i did also put squash and bean few inches to the corn though.

Hi I am an ignorant /k/omando and have been trying to get into gardening as new hobbie.

Currently just trying thru trial and error what I can grow out of some buckets and old freight containers. Drilled holes for drainage, threw some organic soil in them, then transferred plants to them. Should I move them to a less sunny spot come summer or indoors? I fear the roots will heat up too much in a Texas summer.

>>1011595
You can plant them at the same time, of course.
What i mean is that if you want the beans to climb up the corn the corn needs a head start and the pumpkin can kinda be planted whenever but i just plant it a couple of weeks in with the beans or just after.

Noticed a lack of eggplant discussion in a lot of these threads
Trying them for the first time this year and would like some general beginner advice on them.
I have 4 plants around 5 weeks old, any tips?

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>>1010992
>Plant like a dozen onions seeds.
>None sprout.
>Come to this thread.
>Watch this

>i've got enough onions

Life is unfair.

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>>1008789
>>1008791
>>1008808
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>>1010339
DFW grow bro here with my weekly update that no one probably cares about. Haven't watered since the 4th and they don't show signs of wilting so they were definitely getting too much water. Whether that caused the color change I don't know but I was watering on a 2 or 3 day schedule and clearly it was unnecessary.

The experimental kidney beans have pods so that's exciting. There was no expectation for them so anything that happens is good... Nearly everything has flowers. Okra is still kinda slow but it isn't substantially warm yet. Watermelon seedlings are kind of stagnant but we will be patient... Once I fix the water leak in my front yard I will begin work on 3 more beds in a sunnier part of the yard and try to get a quick corn crop in. Depending on how these 3 beds go, I may delegate them to leafy green duty or other shade crop.

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>>1012003
Nice setup anon, run us through your PVC pipe drip system plz; it looks nice.
Just a quick question: how wide and long is your growing area in the raised bed?

>>1011256
>>1011261
Here's a quick webM of the moth in action, there's no real significant wind today but you get the idea hopefully.
It really soars and flutters like crazy when there's a breeze about, as it's made from plastic shopping bag it catches a breeze really well.

Saw a moth come into the garden and approach the fake moth today and try to fight it briefly before flying back over the fence and away.
I also genocided most of the larvae off my plants last night so all around I have high hopes for this method; it's only early days yet though...

>>1011976

Onion seeds can be a bitch. Sets are the easy way out if you just want some onions growing and don't care about trying to get a population going.

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My worm are trying to escape my bunny bedding,my eye sting when I open the container. Do you think there still too much urine in the bunny bedding if that happen?

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I suspect there might be a hedgehog hiding somewhere in my garden. Any idea how to make sure of that?
So far, I haven't spotted any characteristic droppings, and the cat food I left outside may well have been eaten by stray cats (or my own).

>>1012031
Try putting a slow motion camera outside along with some rings.

>>1012031
man I wish I had one roaming my garden, maybe I should build a shelter for it. Do cats attack them?

>>1012040
Rings?

>>1012042
>Do cats attack them?
They may try, but only once :)
Dogs on the other hands are playful murderers (second cause of unnatural death after cars).

>>1011976
They took forever and super slow here too, so just wait a bit more

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>>1012044
>Rings?
It's a joke.

>>1012047
Ah, of course... Nice one!

>>1008696
Grow well, little pepper.

>>1010263
nigger chipmunks stole all my corn seedlings

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tomato getting bigger.
one of 16.
tealight for comparison.

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>>1012071
one bell bepper of 50

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>>1012073

Beloved plant faggots. I live in a rural area and there's a lot of farms here. I know most places have a huge compost mountain somewhere on the property. Never seen them used. Will people get mad if I take some of the soil from the bottom of the mountain? I'm thinking 100 liters or so from each pile.

>>1012071
Please tell me about your soil. I used regular compost and mine is like an inch after three weeks.

>>1012091
>>1012091
Don't be a nigger and ask the farmer. Just act like a normal lad and tell him what you're going to grow with it. Chances are he will let you take it for free if you can promise him some veggies he doesn't grow himself.

Or, you know, buy it for 10 bucks.

>>1012091

youre going to get shot and they're going to tell the cops and your mother you were trying to fuck a horse

>>1012093
store bought

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My peppers are picking up speed again, most were snipped about 2 weeks ago. This little fella was the last to sprout, the only of its kind (I planted 3), and stayed very tiny for a long time. I'm very glad to see how it's doing now, I bet she's gonna be a beauty.

>>1012003
Progress posts are always nice, godspeed bruh.

How to keep cutworms off of sarracenia? Fuckers have chopped the two new spring sprouts it sent out, I'm afraid it's gonna run out of energy and die

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I have a black thumb but it's always been a small dream of mine to have an herb and vegetable garden. I wanted to wait until I owned a home with a yard, but someone gifted me some herbs in pots and I'm scrambling to keep them alive. No plant dreams of coming home to me, but here we are.

I got spanish lavender, lemon thyme, italian oregano, and spearmint. I put the lavender and oregano together in a large pot, and the thyme and mint have their own pots alone.

I'm in an apartment with a south-facing balcony. I transplanted the herbs to some well-draining pots made of wood pulp with this potting soil. I'm trying my best to leave them alone so I don't smother them or give them root rot, but the thyme is getting leggy because we're having a bout of thunderstorms, haven't had any good sun or warmth for about a week, and the forecast says no sun until Friday.

A-am I doing okay? Am I gonna make it?

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Is this spiderbro a friend or foe?

He hangs around my tomatillos all day.

>>1012140
forgot to mention I also mixed a small (like 3-5lb) bag of sand in with the soil for the lavender and oregano since I read they need sandy soil. Unless I'm retarded and that means something else

>>1012143
Big spider bro is a bro, bro.

It's the tiny spider mites that are no bro.

>>1012140
You can clip off the very ends the thyme so it stops growing longer.

>>1012154
>You can clip off the very ends the thyme so it stops growing longer.

So it just stays the same size forever?

>>1012131
Cutworms are strictly terrestrial, right? They're foiled by placing plastic cups around seedlings, after all.

What about sticking some kind of pliable sheet into the ground around the whole plant, forming a wall around it?

>>1012158
Not him, but I believe it'll grow wider rather than longer.

>>1012158
It will slow down the stretching and get the other parts of the plant to grow. It will put out more shoots.

>>1012169
>>1012171

Does that also work for rosemary?

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Some of my bean vines are already halfway up their poles.

What's the best thing to do when a vine gets longer than its pole? Let it droop to the bottom and climb again, or cut it off?

>>1008696
Grow well, little pepper!

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I just paid 8 euro (9 dollar) for 5 kilogram (11 pounds) of literal cow shit pallets. Life is amazing.

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>>1012182
Anyway, is this the correct amount for my beans?

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The bales started pushing up inky caps yesterday, so I figured it was timed to plant. Also my tomatoes were mostly hardened off. Eight tomatoes, four peppers, two cucumbers and an egg plant. One spot remaining for ????

I strip the bottom two-ish leaves off the tomato plant and plant them DEEP in the bale. Tomatoes will grow roots all along the stem, and this gives them a leg up in terms of root growth.

I repotted a bunch of my house plants, like mangrove, lemon, pineapple, jackfruit, avocado, and tamarind. A cutting I took from my African violet even started growing roots!

I also bought and potted an olive laurel. I haven't made a good soil mix for my sassafras tree yet, so it's slowly becoming root bound in it's nursery container.

>>1012188

Oh yeah, my luffa didn't sprout at all, so I'm calling that a loss. Might but some zinnias or something in their place. Any suggestions?

>>1012188
Still looking good, love the way those bales look. Is it for the soil?

>>1008692
The "400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING" in the pastebin is broken for me.

I made a small raised bed garden for my parents on the cheap by using old logs as the perimeter, but I realize now I should've made the whole thing at least four feet longer. They want to plant all sorts of stuff, and I don't think 4x8 ft is enough. Is two feet apart for a couple of broccoli, pepper and tomato plants each enough space to grow what my parents want? I don't have any land, so I dont really have the option to tell them noon any of their stuff. I don't even know if three kinds of plants in this small of a garden is a bad idea.

Why do I enjoy spreading straw/mowed grass on my garden to preserve moisture so much?

>>1012188
>piggu is watching

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>>1012134
Very nice.
Is still sill the starting soil?

I repotted my peppers today. All 75.

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What could this be?

>>1012244
Kat stop working a while ago, it on piratebay

>>1011911
>also advice?

Repot them once every 3-4 years to revitalize the soil. Save the runners and use them as new plants; ever expanding your garden.

I myself am getting out of growing strawberries. I've had them for many years and they just are not worth the land they grow on. I'll be growing other stuff with that soil. Stuff I can use a lot better and have higher yields.

>>1011919
Yes. The fresher the stump the better. The older they are the more likely something else is living in it.

>>1011929
Paint the containers white, if the temps are too high. Normally, you have a permanent place for them and use shade cloth during the super hot summers.

Some plants like more heat than others and there are heat-loving cultivars too.

>>1011966
>tfw my eggplant seeds never germinated (they were 8 years old anyway)

>tips?

You can pick the fruit at any time you like, there's no best stage of ripeness for eating them, unless you are saving seeds.

>>1011976
Same here, but they were old seeds. I got some onion sets from the local stores and planted those instead. They are amazing now.

>>1012003
Looking good. My watermelons plants are doing the same thing. Most likely the cold where I'm at.

>>1012006
I'll probably add a few of those just for the fun of it. If it works, that's 1-2 less moth types to worry about. My insect row covers haven't arrived yet. I've been pulling caterpillars off the plants already.

>>1012021
It is turning into ammonia and needs more air flow. Yes, there is probably too much urine. Change the bedding for the rabbit more often and allow the bedding to age for a week before adding it to the worm farm. This will allow the urea in the urine to change to ammonia and gas off. Although, increasing the air flow may be all that is needed.

>>1012031
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>>1012049
>pic related

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1494423368674.webm

>>1012091
Just ask. You may even be allowed to muck stalls to get as much as you like.

>>1012093
What is your compost made from?

>>1012143
Tomatillo or ground cherry? Also, they look very yellow for some reason. Lack of light or tons of water?

>>1012173
Most plants become bushier when you trim them, including rosemary.

>>1012177
Arch them over a hoop.

>>1012182
lol For that much in fuel I can drive to someone's barn and clean the horse stalls for all the poo my truck can carry away. Sometimes they even pay me to do it for them, suckers. lol

>>1012183
Fertilizer? Did you read the instructions that came with it? It looks like way too much to me, I'd only use about 1/4 that amount at most. You may want to get a soil test kit to see where things stand then increase fertilizer in small amounts so the plants don't get root burn.

>>1012189
>>1012188
Luffa needs high temps for sprouting and a long long growing season. Plant a pumpkin in that spot.

>>1012244
The links are long dead for the torrents. There should be a note about that. Just search those file names on your preferred torrent site.

Look up the minimum planting/sowing distances for those types of plants. That will give you some good info on how many you can plant. 32 square feet is practically nothing. For that. you can maximize it by ensuring the tallest plants are in the back where they won't cast shadows on the smaller plants. Make sure all vine plants climb up something to help get them out of the way.

>Why do I enjoy spreading straw/mowed grass on my garden to preserve moisture so much?

Because it looks tidy.

>>1012314
Probably older leaf with a little physical damage, slowly putrifying after being foliar watered during the evenings? Don't worry too much about it and only water in the early mornings. It'll probably die and fall off.

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>>1011735
Thank you anon, Godspeed to you to.
Pic related, habaneros.

>>1012343
>Arch them over a hoop.
I don't know what you mean.

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>>1012370

>>1012373
I'll do that next time, but these are already planted and wound around poles.

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Anyone else growing aubergine here?
It's my first go at it and only a single plant I bought a couple weeks ago (just brought along from DIY store visit).
Growth has been kinda slow, I blame that on the recently cool weather
Anyway, how should I cultivate it compared to other nightshades? Rather like a tomato (keep main shoot and remove suckers, at least that's what I do to keep things manageable), or rather like a pepper (cut the top and let become bushy)?
I'm growing in a rather cold climate (Upper Rhine Germany), so growing season isn't too long and intense (average first frost around Nov 8), so a method which doesn't produce too much fruit but instead focusses more on flowering and ripening quickly would be preferred, even if it means smaller harvest

>>1011919
How fresh? The best window for stumps is 3 months. Also, can you guarantee it is truly dead? Most stumps will stay alive and try to put up suckers. I would recommend a parasitic species like Chicken of the Woods, or Lions mane. Worth a try with the oyster, but wait until it is around 3 months old.

>>1011879
It depends on the species. For most cultivated species you can buy spawn online from a bunch of different companies. Otherwise try joining facebook groups devoted to mushroom growing and buy cultures off of them. If you are new and don't have experience or equipment for agar work, you are not going to have luck isolating your own clones off of wild collected species.

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>>1012299
These are the first pots after the seedling tray (pic from a month ago). They've been in these pots for about 3 weeks now.
They are doing very well imho, I hope this trend continues. Finally some good weather too, they seem to love the sunny windowsill.

What size pot are having them in now? I was thinking about moving them to their final pots when they have outgrown these.

>>1012358
<3
Won't you damage the roots too much when you repot those? Or are you just gonna transplant it as is, and kill the weakest ones?

>>1012376
stick in a row of poles a few feet over, then use some string to connect them horizontally at the top.

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>>1012415
What I meant was: Did you change the kind of soil they are in when you repotted them? They are kind of tall now and could use more nutrients if they are still in starting soil (which is usually low in nutrients).

For moving them to their final pots see pic related, the size mine had when they were repotted for the last time.

>>1012439
*last years plants.

>>1012427
Will pole beans climb downward once they reach the other pole?

>>1012457
Nope just up and sideways, but you can still start bean at the new poles. They will have plenty of time.

>>1012439
Ah. Well I've been using regular potting soil (mixed with perlite, obviously) since the beginning, the bag says it's suited for vegetable growing.
I gave em a tiny bit ( less than half of what the bottle recommends) of all purpose fertilizer 2 times so far, 2 weeks and a regular watering in between.
And thanks, I think mine will need a few more weeks then.

>>1012459
But as far as the existing beans, all I can do is let them climb out horizontally?

Will letting them hang down and grasp their own pole again not work?

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Is being too natural be bad for my garden? I'm using the wood balk as mulch and branch as fences. Will that attract more pest?

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Hey y'all, just recently got into growing some house plants (and creating terrariums).
Can anyone identify this little sucker? I'm assuming some sort of climbing ivy, but I can't find anything online!
I grew a cutting in my little 40z (poorly made) terrarium, and it's going crazy.

Pic related!

>>1012343
They are tomatillos and are in direct sunlight. Possible too much water also North Texas weather has been bipolar in April. They were exposed to 40°f weather a few times. I will be honest I have no idea what I am doing as I am winging it.

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>>1012513
Apologies for rotated pic, here's my 40oz terrarium, has a lot of different plants I've found natively around my area

>>1012468
You can try to keep wrapping them around but if they run out of space and keep growing too much they will clump up and start to fall down.

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>>1012003
Dude I am in dfw also, I just really started trying to see what I could grow in home depot buckets. Advice on my current Garden? Also absolutely love your garden.

>>1012415
You can't see but that pot is about a foot deep, and I live in an apartment so no place to transplant them.

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>>1012534
Additional pic of my jalapenos

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What's going on with my tomatoes?
I probably should have done a harden, my mistake.
I brought them outside and stuck them in the ground a few days ago, now they're yellow and wilting. Is it because of light stress? It's been cloudy all month, now that I put them out we've had the brightest days in weeks, just my luck. I think it's just stressed from so much light all of a sudden, is that what it looks like to you guys? Just my guess.
For now I have a thin sheet wrapped over the top of their cages to shade them.

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>>1012556
I did the same thing. Most of the leafs fell off. I hoping the plant will recover more once it heats up more.

>>1012565
Wasn't sure if it was so much the cold or the light. I've had them next to an open window so they've been feeling a bit of the cold, not so much the light though. Went from a couple hours of direct light to nearly 10. I really should have thought it through more. Does it look more like cold damage? It hasnt gone below 45 since i put them out..

>>1012067
Sometimes I wish this product worked as advertised.

https://www.amazon.com/Squirrel-Boss-Bird-Feeder-Freight/dp/B0040IYZOK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

>>1012143
I had the same exact spider on my lettuce. I think is harmless for us as humans, and I doubt it harms or eats lettuce, so I just let it be. The lettuce grown ok, and I didn't had any plague, but I can't tell for sure if the spider had anything to do with it, so I would leave it alone again.

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Stop ruining my shit! Reeeeee!

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>>1012006
4chins won't let me post my shit without a connection error so I just put what I was going to type into the image.

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>>1012534
>>1012544
You're doing better than me so I should be asking you! I'm in all day shade because I've grown in full sun and have had plants wilting during the day come July. Tomatoes and stuff won't set fruit if it's too hot too. However that was my mistake because it seems like the general consensus around here is go full sun, bum rush your plants to July to get a harvest. Then replant in August and get a second harvest by the end of November. Even the sunniest part (a tiny sliver) of my yard gets maybe 7 hours if I am lucky.

So TLDR I'm in shade and I will be stuck to slow growers. I will build 3 more beds in the sunny part of the yard and try for a late summer planting. Each 4x8' bed with compost and piping costs me ~$70-80.