[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

>>17427632
honda = street tuned, understressed engines, errytime

it's why riders love them and internet commentators think they're shit

>riding my favorite road
>see massive bloodstains and some crash debris
That's just wreckage from a car hitting a deer, right?

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First for good thing, that kids bike company could learn something from a REAL motorcycle manufacture, brother

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>>17428951
>Ducati bought by honda

>>17428951
>this triggers the spaghetti

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>>17428955
Nice gook toy, brother. We all know that Honda only makes teenage anime girl learner bikes though, brother. Brother, a REAL™ motorcycle™ is one from Milwaukee.

>>17428949
look at the curve though. It's nice and smooth then at 12k it suddenly drops by 20hp and goes smooth again

>>17428951
>ducati goes back to making air cooled bikes only

>>17428961
You mean Springfield, MA.

>it's a kitkat shitposting thread
Noice

>>17428964
you don't need power past 12k

thank us later

t. honda

>>17428951
>>17428961
I know you're just trolling, Kit Kat, but just being reminded that people like that genuinely exists still makes me want to punch the screen.

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Which factory turbo bike is best factory turbo bike?

>>17428978
those people are all over 40 and manage to have chicken strips on relatively flattened out cruiser tires.

1%ers don't care, bike's a bike. worst you'll hear from a real biker is "yeah, it's nice for a girl's bike".

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>>17428967
You...i like you

What is the best liter bike and why is it the H2?

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>>17428961
>gook
>makes fun of asians but buys asian engineered products

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>>17429014

>saved

what a buffoon

>>17428944
>Ducatistis
I straight stared at this for 10min trying to figure out how to say it in my head.

>>17428944
>rumor
>harley MIGHT buy
>it will never happen

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>>17428961
Nah son

>>17429029
I'm hoping it does just to hear fanboys cry

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>>17428999
Undisputable. GPZ is godking of turbo bikes.

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So basically I bought my first motorcycle, a Suzuki SV650S from 1999.

Does /dbt/ recommend putting a new exhaust and brembo brakes? What are some of the stuff I should do the bike?

>pic of the same model and color of the motorcycle I bought.

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>>17429041

Here is the new 2019 Ducadavidson Sportgetti R model

>>17429056
wait till you've dropped it, then you'll have an excuse for a new exhaust.

>>17429060
Ok, so should I put those things to protect the gas tank at least?

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>>17429059
Amazing.

>>17429059
I can hear boomers and spaghetti committing suicide as we speak

Are Royal Enfield motorcycles any good?

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Ducati's new v4 is almost here.

>>17429087
Cant wait to see that in a sportster frame

>>17429059
Amazing work, anon.

I'm saving this and I'll make sure to flood these threads with it should the deal go through.

God help us all.

What kinda bags you guys carry? I've been wearing a small backpack on my chest so I can reach water and random shit in traffic while I'm sitting, I think a sling bag would fit my form better.

I wanted a Condor sector bag but for 90 bucks I figure I'd see what other people are using

>>17429107
I only use a Tbag and only use it on road trips

>>17429059
That's a pretty decent shop, and sadly that's physically doable, and could almost see that happening as a concept.
If the deal goes through, it should be cleaned up and disseminated through the internet as an actual concept

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>>17428961
I like my street tuned anime girl...
The bikes are quite nice, too.

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Alright so I had to get new chain and sprockets for my FZ8 and I went -1 in the front and +1 in the rear. How much top speed is this gonna cost me? Speedo is not even close to accurate any more.

>>17429118
I Tbagged your mum last night

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What's the advantage of making brakes this shitty?
Literally budget bikes like hornets, bandits, SVs, hell even road trails and 250s have at least 2x discs and twin pot calipers.

It's not like harley is inexperienced or doesn't know engineering. Why bother specifying such shit brakes?

>>17429167
So did I. You're not special

>>17429177
>Claaaic

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It still blows my mind that BMW manufactured this gaudy piece of trash.

>>17429158
I have a mechanical speedo. This is tangential, but how does chain configuration fuck up something so basic?

>>17428999
its generally accepted that the GPZ750 was the only one that was more than just an experiment.

>>17429196
Looks comfy

>>17429056
you cant just buy brembo calipers and put them on any old japanese sports-bike.

it would probably be easier to replace the entire fork with fitting brakes.

>>17429177
"Heritage'

>>17429177
This looks cheap af tbqh.

>>17429107
How to drink water when you have to undo a helmet? Also I'm waiting for my bike cargo net to come in the mail. So I can put bags in it.

>>17429198
because a lot of bikes got the speedo-sensor at the front-sprocket.

>>17429177
Harley riders are scared of the front brake and for good reason.

those things are so unstable any front-braking in corners can low-side them.

How often do you fall over turning out of your driveway?

>Bike cold
>stall
>catch it just in time with foot, wew

>>17429231
Unstable?
Confirmed for no idea what you're talking about. But thanks for the laugh

>>17429177
So it's harder for HD's average clueless rider to lock the front.

>>17429249
oh right, those old tube-frames with the thin ancient forks, tube-tires and shitty suspension are cornering like they were on rails of course.


fucking idiot.

>>17429254
Salty as fuck! So since you lack skill you project it on others. Good to know lol

>>17429254
they are shit

but the riders feel safe and confident because their bikes are heavy and therefore feel "planted" going in a straight line doing a slightly gusty highway

and a harley will scrape and lever itself off the ground before it's cornering hard enough for it to matter

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>>17429196
BRUH

Why do you kids get so buttblasted when harley is mentioned? Is it because you can't afford one or did a Harley rider steal your bf?

>>17429231
>>17429249
>>17429254
>>17429260
You reckon these riders lack skill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmw6QppXnEY

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>>17429150
Honda indeed the best

>>17429275
This is dbt, nobody here has any actual skill. Most lack a motorcycle

>>17429274
Because if you're into bikes and interact with normal people, everyone thinks your bike is like a beginner bike even if it's a 600 supersport and asks when you're going to get a harley or says "you should get a harley they're so much nicer".

Imagine being a car guy who enjoys driving and sport-driving and having people tell you your boosted miata looks a little cheap and that you should get a lowrider chevy from the 70s. It's like that.

>>17429287
Ahh, so you're insecure and require the approval of others. So you come here and cry like babies about it because it makes you feel like a real adult?

>>17429274
i dont give a fuck, they are just not what i consider a motorcycle because they lack everything that makes a motorcycle fun.

>>17429268
His face says, I thought spending this much money would help, but something went terribly wrong.

>>17429276
Agreed.
You're my favourite dbt anon btw.

>>17429312
But you do give a fuck! Because you're crying about it :)

>>17429317
Sorry I'm not fireblade anon.

>>17429275
What is it with Americans and death wobbles? Their bikes wobble, their trucks wobble, can they engineer a single thing that doesn't attempt to wobble itself into a crash?

>>17429330
That's ok, I like all my dbt bros.
He's just my favourite.

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>>17429268

that paint job is sick as fuck bro

>>17429295
It has nothing to do with security. It has to do with clueless people saying

>hey i see you like something BUT WHY DON'T YOU LIKE WHAT I LIKE ITS THE BEST?

It annoys you. The thing they like is associated with being annoyed. The thing they like becomes annoying. A symbol of annoyance, in the same way anime quickly becomes a disgusting symbol of virginity to anyone who interacts with its fans.

People don't normally do this with literally anything else. Food, clothes, movies, people somehow know how to shut up and acknolwedge that different tastes exist, but with bikes, all of a sudden otherwise normal people start acting like 4chan shitposters, especially if they either own the bike they think you should get and have ridden nothing else, or don't own a bike at all. Hell, it also happens with cars.

And the US being what it is with its singular native manufacturer (indian is canadian now), it happens with harleys more often than it happens with hondas, especially among the crowd that doesn't even have a fucking bike.

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>>17429312
-two wheels
-means to ride in suicidal fashion

What about that isn't a motorcycle?

I personally hate Harleys because rebuilding your engine should never be expected maintenance. I also do not ride with a buttplug inserted.

>>17429344
I'm more worried about whats gonna happen to yuroppeon engineering after islam take total control

>>17429354
> rebuilding your engine should never be expected maintenance

[angry 2smoke noises]

>>17429356
They invented maths. Everybody who wants to stay in tribal goatfuckkery will stay in the desert.

>>17429351
Springfield, Massachusetts is in Canada now huh?

>>17429369
the upper class is staying put in their cathedral cities. the dumb and poor ones are fleeing across the globe in search of white people who secretly hate them and want to give them free stuff to alleviate the guilt.

kind of like any people really

>be dumb and poor american
>flee to thailand/japan in search of women who secretly hate you but hate their dads more

>>17429354
>I personally hate Harleys because rebuilding your engine should never be expected maintenance.

you shut your whore mouth

t. yz250 owner

>>17429369
Just don't forget to work extra hard so you can give all your munnies to islam, friend

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>>17429345
I'll have a big boy bike one day. You have a wonderful day anon.

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Dubs decidesse what i bolt to the right side of my bike

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>>17429399
>Dubs decidesse what i bolt to the right side of my bike
beer keg

>>17429391
Any bike is a good bike.
You just keep doing you

>>17429411
Welp
Sem just got a whole lot more interesting

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>>17429350
Euros love airbrush paint.

>>17429354
>cant accelerate
>cant rev
>cant lean
>cant brake
>cant have valve clearance checkups

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>>17429391
>tfw even if your waifu was real, she wouldn't ride on the back of your motorcycle unless you had someone duct tape her to your back
>tfw just starting it up would give her PTSD

my heart made a mistake

>>17429274
I'm young and my back doesn't hurt so I enjoy the thrill of doing stupid shit on bikes that have more power than people honestly need

>>17429274
Because japan makes a better bike for a better price

They do this by doing something american automobile companies can't imagine - diversifying, so they don't need to make all their profit from high-end motor vehicles

>honda makes scooters, lawnmowers, aircraft engines, outboards, econoboxes, you name it
>all so they can use that profit to fund motorcycle R&D and smash it every year at motoGP

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>>17429440
>ever tarnishing your brand by making cheap shit

wew we got someone who doesn't want to go bankrupt here. fucking nerd.

>>17429274
>is it because you cant afford one?

Actually the reason I hate harleys is because their owners are for the most part elitest pricks, as seen in your post. Also that attitude seems to spead to harley corporate as well.

>Hurrrdurr cant afford one?
>hurrdurr real bike
>hurrduurrrrr real men ride harlay-lays
>hurrdurrdurrhurr sound good
>hurdurrrdurr durr cant ride with you on japcrap

Fuck those bikes and everything they stand for.

>harleys are expensive meme

with the magic of credit it's the same amount of cash out of your budget each month as a metric bike, only the loan lasts longer

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>>17429440
>american automobile companies
>high-end motor vehicles

What size top box for a commuter?
>needs to be narrow enough for filtering
>needs to be big enough for shopping and camping

I was thinking a givi monolock 42 liter would be a large enough volume without being a huge sail on the back of the bike.

>>17429228
With a straw that just goes up underneath. My Camelbak bottle is just long enough

>>17429482
So it's more money, is what you're saying?

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Krauser Domani lads

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>>17429492
S A I L
A
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>>17429501
From the perspective of a paycheck to paycheck poorfag? No. It's just a longer waiting period until they can take out a loan on something else.

>friend asks me to check the valves on his WR
>offers $80
>OK.jpg
>he brings the bike here
>the rear brake is seized
>air filter is in shreds
>sprockets are sharpened to a point
>chain has seized links
>shock is blown
>front brake is mushy
>random wires running to nothing
>random hoses running to nothing
>every bolt on the bike is either seized or already vibrated loose
>Yamaha used fucking allen head bolts for everything why WHY
>footpeg is bent up at like 30 degrees
>brake pedal is bent to shit
>rear axle is seized in
>rear wheel bearings are shot
>oil way overfilled
Fuck m8 this is not what I expected. The valves would be the least of my concern.
At least I'm making more money doing some extra jobs but he said not to bother with half the shit because he doesn't want to spend the money.

>>17429440
Yea honda's really smashing it this year making John Mcguin crash via stuck throttle, Nicky Hayden's frame breaking AND almost killing Guy Martin via their shitty gearbox having false neutrals.

But they have fanbois like you who will always buy their shit sooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KcsV6Gzir0&t=645

Is Guy /ourguy/?

>>17429520
He probably false flags as rossifag

>>17429517
Honda was an example

I'm a Kawasaki man

>>17429510
actually harleys hold their value better than just about anything else, so it's actually more viable to buy a new Harley every few years trading in the old one than any jap bike

>>17429516
What's wrong with allen heads? Do you not have a million leftover IKEA hex keys at home?

>>17429532
keep it that way friendo

>>17429533
Which is good, because the jap bike will roll over the odometer and the harley will break in some way before it hits 50k.

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i'm so goddamn sick of highway riding

>>17429544
Finally the tires match the exhaust.

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>>17429516
>yamaha used fucking allenhead bolts on everything

Fuck you, allen head bolts are awesome.

Did he leave his bike running in an ocean for a few years or something? Are you sure those hoses arent just vent hoses off the carb? Are you sure he shouldnt use that 80 bux towards at least fixing the chain and brakes?

>>17429550
Thanks for this image. I was confused and couldn't figure out how to get out of first.

>>17429351
Indian is owned by Polaris which is US based (maybe you were thinking BRP/CanAm)

>>17429539
I have proper allen "sockets" to go on a ratchet. I would kill myself if I had to use L wrenches for everything.
Allen bolts are just shit though.
>bolts round out super easy
>sockets get stuck to the bolt every time
>sockets are long and unwieldy to use, especially in small spaces
>bolts round out super super easy
>bolt heads get filled with mud so you can't get the wrench in there
>I have to get more tools out of the toolbox
They're just shit at everything. The only place they make sense would be low torque fairing screws where the allen head looks marginally better than a normal bolt.

>>17429561
>not rattlecanning your bike matte olive green and using regular hex heads everywhere
>not stenciling on the chassis code and manufacturer name in white

It's like you don't want to look like a faggot

>>17429550
At first i thought it was a vent hose off the carb. I found an open end in the air box and followed it down the frame and it was dead on the other end too.

>Are you sure he shouldnt use that 80 bux towards at least fixing the chain and brakes?
The 80 bux was the labor cost for adjusting the valves. He gave me another $60 to fix the rear brake. He's paying for all the parts.

Everything else he's ignoring because it's good enough to ride for now.

>>17429561
And what's the superior head?

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>>17429594

>>17429517
They are however doing relatively well in motoGP. It's automobile motorsports where Honda is really lacking this year

>>17429629
Except for the riders saying the RC213V has shit acceleration in the higher gears, then saying that the chassis also has problems and needs to be redesigned. Honda's coasting on previous dominance and has obviously got complacent.

how stupid of an idea would it be to get a rebel 300 as a first bike, its like $5,000 and looks p nice

>>17429704
The bike itself would be ok for a first bike, but 5k seems like alot.
I don't know much about them personally, but I really feel like they aren't that expensive

>>17429713
seems p good for a new bike

that or i can do a grand more and get an fz-07 but from what i've been told that's got too much power for a beginner rider

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>>17429510
As a paycheck to paycheck poorfag, I'd prefer to have a bike that costs less during the loan, will survive long after.

2017 road king: 18,999
-Heated grips: 53.95

2014 VFR800F: 7,999
-Heated grips, traction control, self canceling indicators; 500
-Corbin seat; 473
- givi hard panniers; 152+245+575
Total
VFR 9,944 Road King 19,052.95

Street 500: 6,849
Grips;53.95
Windshield;93
Corbin;473
Panniers;217 ---no topcase, no locks

CBR500R; 5,999 (ride red sale)
Grips; 53.95
Panniers; 243+245+575
Corbin; 303
Windshield; 86.35

CBR 7502.60. Street 500 7743.95
and all the stolen luggage you can't carry.

Without factoring the violently expensive costs of maintaining a Harley, or considering a cheaper Japanese brand, it's still more sensible.
And don't fuck around with displacement like these aren't directly comparable. That's the small vfr to the cheap tourer, and the cheap sportbike to the smallest Harley.

>>17429704
The rr sale includes the rebel 500. Try cycle trader in your area.
It's cheap, economical, easy to repair, and yes--pretty cool looking now.

>>17429742
Dont buy new, buy a used bike like a sv650 or rebel or whatever, ride it for a month or 2, drop it, then sell it for near what you payed. Then buy a new bike

>>17429742
Sorry, I was under the assumption it was a used bike.
This is just some advice, take it or leave, it's your money, but I recommend not buying new for a first bike. There is a good likelihood you will want something else rather quickly, and then there's if you drop it, which is also in high probability.
I feel the rebel would be better than the FZ07 in terms of beginner bike, but the FZ07 would probably be better in terms of money's worth. If you're not an idiot you could do ok on the FZ

All in all tho, do what you think is best for you

>>17429769
I think going Rebel over CB suggests they're looking at cruisers specifically.

>>17429786
Rebels kinda in between cruiser and standard tho.
Also as a first bike, do you really know what you prefer. Kinda gotta ride a few to find your niche

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>>17429797
I do hear that. Probably would have never considered a sport-tourer if I hadn't gotten a standard as my first.

anyone else get extremely paranoid about ants during and after riding? I always feel them walking about on me.
also is there anything worse than a live fly in your helmet, it's like doing one of those reality show challenges but while avoiding busses

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>>17429806
Wrong pic

>>17429811
Are you on meth? Just open your visor.

>>17429811
>also is there anything worse than a live fly in your helmet
A live wasp

>>17429811
Actually just yesterday a spider popped up from behind my cluster while I was working on the bike.
Rode the bike just after and totally forgot. Kinda glad cause I thought about it jumping on me while I was riding.
Don't know where it went, maybe I've just got a spiderbro riding with me now.

Unless some hideous financial tragedy befalls me, I'm going to make SEM this year. I only have Thur-Wed off so I'm going to have to ride like hell to get down there but could take in a pass on the way back. I've done Stelvio, Furka, Timmelsjoch and Forclaz as well as a handfull of dead end roads, can anyone recommend a pass/route that could be incorporated to the road back to Calais?

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>>17429811
spider crawled across my face under my visor once

>>17429884
>tfw every morning my bike is covered in spider webs

>>17429884
Those hands.
You one pasty ass nigga

>>17429811
Just carefully remove your helmet and shake it out. If the wind doesn't dislodge it, speed up.

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>over $200 for mass produced steel tubing and four bolts
>another $200+ for a mid range top box
>another $400 for mid range side case

Jesus christ luggage is expensive,
It's probably more cost effective to just buy a touring bike

>>17429919
>It's probably more cost effective to just buy a touring bike

Until you damage the luggage and find out that OEM stuff makes third party luggage look like a bargain. The price of the boxes is actually pretty reasonable for the abuse they can withstand.

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>>17428951
pretty soon h-d will be making 1950s bikes instead of 1940s bikes
china better watch their backs!

>>17429884
The day you became a man.

>>17429919
Just nigger rig your own

>>17429919
Wow, I'm buying a Versys-x 300 now because it comes with a luggage rack.

>>17429811
>>17429829
im gonna have to agree with kitkat for once, wasps and hornets in the helmet are fucking horrible

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>>17429925
>stealerships
>>17429978
>>17429986

The cases themselves last, but the manufacturers are getting good at designed obscolescence for their products. See: bike specific racks, painted trim, lighting kits, asymmetric cases, etc, etc.

Nearly dropped my bike at 5mph in front of a small crowd. Was doing a tight turn onto the pavement to park but I'm lanky so handle bars pinned my knee, panicked and touched the front brake which stopped me dead. I jumped off and caught it but it wasn't smooth at all.

>>17429986
Why? Surely you could buy a used big boy bike and use the change to fit it with a luggage rack that could carry an entire (properly butchered) horse (or even find a used bike with luggage, you'll pay about half what you would to fit it in terms of price increase).

>>17430006
>stealerships

Mine actually charged me less than the list price for a replacement OEM top box and a hell of a lot less than anyone else offered.

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>>17430006
That asymmetry really triggers my autism. Can someone please reroute the exhaust down below?

>>17430029
Stealerships get full (100%) markup on this stuff. You should be getting at least a 20% discount from list, or start googling for dealers who sell online. The closest KTM dealer to me discounts not at all, one an hour away will give me 10% - 15%, just bought the meme wave brake rotor from a dealer on the other coast, 20% off including shipping.

>>17430083
I'm talking the purchase price, not the RRP. I had a jolly good look round but there was nowhere cheaper, most were at least 40% more than what I paid. You don't need to have an adversarial relationship with your dealer (I'm not saying to be a sucker but don't always assume bad faith). YMMV depending on dealer, there are some shoddy shysters out there.

>>17430078
Gonna eventually take a pic of my bike, being a v-twin the whole frame is asymmetrical

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>>17428944
>Harley owned MV agusta at one point
>puts millions into it
>sells for a fraction of what they bought it for

Why are they doing this again?

>>17430290
HD make money from merchandising, not bikes.

>>17430293
That might make sense then: they'll be able to plaster the Ducati name on more shit; basically turn it into Ferrari.

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nth for either fz6n, gsr600 or Hornet pc41

which one to get as a second bike?

>>17430300
Oh boy, I cant wait to get a ducati case for my phone that also dispenses ducati cologne!

>>17430290
maybe they want the v-twin development

>>17430337
MV does triples tho

>>17430290
because americans are economically incompetent

>>17429475
B U T T H U R T
U
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H
U
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Cry more lil baby

what's the best motorbike related youtube channel?

>>17430381
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVaFSLqEkRFh839MyYJqnJg

>>17430346
Nice edge!

>>17430409
cool

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>riding through city
>retards walk out like you're not even there
>pull the clutch and give them a wrist full
>watch as they shit it, then fumble and almost drop their iphone mid face time
every time

>>17430433
>what are cosswalks
congratulations on breaking the law

>>17430438
>thinking people use crossings
what kind of teletubby narnia land utoptia do you live in

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what did I miss since about 6 months of last visit

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So now that this thing has been sent to the guillotine that's pretty much confirmation that the japs are abandoning dual sports right?

>>17430453
deine dicke mutter

und die titte600 ist wahrscheinlich immer noch hin

>>17430450
one where pople learn the rules of the road instead of getting their license for 50 dollars

>>17430453
Another 2 lesbians came out and one was bummed her bike didn't get her any dick

>>17429919
I can't believe you guys would even consider buying simple shit like this instead of rigging it up yourself. What are you some accountant who took child care as an elective in school?

>>17430472
so the rule in your country is walkout in front of moving vehicles in the middle of the road where there are no markings?

>>17430409
Every single person appearing in any of the videos on that channel can crash and die for all I care.

>>17430481
no, the rule is that anyone being on the street should be on the lookout constantly on the lookout when entering pedestrian zones and not look behind them for the latest burger king menu

>>17430482
nice racism

>>17430487
>y-you broke a law
no I didn't
>w-well should of been on the look out
how do you think I identify them in time to alert them to my presence if I didn't know they were there?

also I'm not a yank if that is what you are implying hombre

>>17430514
>brit
even worse
have fun wiping a queen's guard's ass

>>17430469
guter meme

>>17430477
>lesbians being angry their bike don't get them dick
really makes u think

>>17430514
To be fair, his implication still works for brits, if brit ye be.
Have burger kings, and just as fat as we are.

have any of you successfully cashed in you cool points from owning a bike into a gf? I've got no personality but I can scrub up not bad so I just need to fill in the gaps.

>>17430579
Sort of....
It's kinda hard to explain, but it's a possible gf.
She already just likes me, but when she knew about the bike it did up the like.

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>>17430487
>>17430514
non-americans insulting other non-americans by implying that they are American.

>>17430409
do those guys think thats impressive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGgUudJFJa0

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>>17430577
>der meme
>nicht die meme

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>>17430594
god bless the burger, I tell you what.

>>17430578
As I recall, Burger King is a Brit company. I remember this being a thing last time the isle was overrun with mad cow and hoof-and-mouth

>>17430579
wat

>>17430601
>e am ende
>weiblich
???

>>17430612
genauso wie deine mama
:^)

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>>17430615

>>17430609
>Burger King (BK) is an American global chain of hamburger fast food restaurants. Headquartered in the unincorporated area of Miami-Dade County, Florida

>>17430623
jetzt geh aber mal schlafen

morgen musst du doch safe in die innung

>>17430493
Joke's on you, I only looked at the thumbnails. Is everyone black?

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>>17430637
in die wat

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>>17430648
>mgw wr anton nicht wirklich ausbildung macht

>>17430610
will a bike get you a gf

>>17430659
no

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>>17430656
>impliziert ich wär nicht schon längst gefeuert worden

>>17430666
wurdest du wirklich?
wahrscheinlich wegen fehlender Sozialkompetenz, oder?

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>>17430674
ne, weil ich deine mudda gefiggt habe :-DDDDDDDDD

>>17430659
My gf loves my bike. So yes

>>17430663
it wont help in any way?

>>17430674
fortgeschrittenes millennial Luschentum.

Ihr seid doch alle zu nix zu gebrauchen

>>17430679
k

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>>17430659
yes
worked for me

>>17430686
hah, hab dich voll erwischt lmaooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>17430684
is so amk

>>17430683
It doesn't hurt.
But it's not something you push.
She already has to like you at least some.
Try to let her bring up your bike, and try not to talk about it too much.
Again, bike is just brownie points sometimes, and doesn't work for all females.

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>hanging out at a friends apartment
>go to leave at 4 AM and my bike is gone
>panic because I'm in the middle of Chicago and I'm pretty sure it's stolen
>call 911 and make the report
>they tell me it's been towed
>go to get it this morning
>$800 for towing and impound fees
There goes that Akra exhaust I was planning on buying, how the fuck can it be that expensive?

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A motorbike doesn't "attract women." It draws a specific kind of woman. The general population will either look down on you further or get with you "because I can change him."

If you're masquerading anyway, the latter is what you want. Look for daddy issues, but responsible enough to hold her own job.

Or, just date a woman who rides for herself because you both **happen to** ride a motorbike. Like any human with a hobby.

>>17430635
>Pillsbury was eventually acquired by the British entertainment conglomerate Grand Metropolitan in 1989

So BK was Brit from 1989-2000 (GM merged with Giunness which became Diagio) and since then it's been American, then Brazilian, and now belongs to Tim Horton's (RBI) in Canada. So it's HQ is in Florida, but is owned by Canadians. Which is nice, as there is no Mad Cow in Canada

>>17430717
how else would you learn you fucking retard?
also keep the stock exhaust, no one wants to hear your shitty i2 screaming its lungs off because it struggles to move your fat american nigger ass more than 20 mph
>b-but muh performance!!!
yeah because some drunk russisans sure know more about how to make an exhaust than the enigneers who designed the complete bike for all factors to work together perfectly.

>>17429482
So basically you're saying rednecks can't into math

>>17430717
Gotta pay for dem programs somehow :^)

>>17430733
>yeah because some drunk russisans sure know more about how to make an exhaust than the enigneers who designed the complete bike for all factors to work together perfectly.
this tbqh, stock shit is a lot better than most people give credit. in fact there's plenty of aftermarket stuff that actually performs worse than stock despite advertising

>>17429482
It's not about the price, it's what you get for the price.

>>17430733
So much edge in one post! How cute :D

>>17430717
Two friends have lived in Chicago, towing hassles and fees is all they talk about. And freezing to death

>>17429482
literally boomer tier financial incompetence

>>17430337
>puts superquadro engine in all HD bikes
>puts harley engine in all Ducati bikes

>crashes entire american bike market

>>17430725
Reading this, idk why I didn't really see it before.
Chick I'm into, who likes my bike, does have daddy issues.
But I don't really care, shes still rather successful. She makes a fuck ton more than I do, and is still somehow into me. Usually it's only thots that like me. Hell she's even a tad shy.

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>>17430759
GOT YOU LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING RETARD
AMERICANS ARE SO STUPID AND EASY TO BAIT LMAOOOOOOO NO WONDER THEY VOTED DRUMPH

>>17430769
But there's still Indian.

>>17430777
Yeah, all 5 bikes they made this year lmao

[spoiler]I actually really want a Scout, all memes aside[/spoiler]

>>17430787
Apparently Indian has taken over the North American police motorcycle market.

>>17430754
See
>>17429743
You're getting a shit bike. With outdated accoutrement culture.
Because even "muh aftermarket" is a meme with these stupid machines. Size doesn't matter if the shit's all low quality.

how do you figs deal with summer heat, what gear do you wear to stay safe in southern california

>>17430787
I'm happy with them being small and elite. Better qq for the product.

>>17430796
Vented jacket and a wet t shirt. If you want to be really fancy, get one of those portable car showers and hook up the hose to your jacket so you can irrigate your clothing at the push of a button.

>>17430796
I live in AZ dont complain about heat bro. Its been 117 last week. The best way to do it is to channel your inner mexican, wear long sleeve shit so you can retain sweat and cool off. Drink LOTS of water, get a camelback. Also get one of these http://www.froggtoggs.com/cooling/super-chilly-pad-cooling-towel.html they actually work really well. It helps if you dont wear perforated gear, just prevent airflow and stuff because in +100 degree weather its basically a convection oven. All the sweat will evaporate lmao. If you're only going a short distance just suck it up and hope you dont get heat stroke. If youre riding for fun go really early or really late

>>17430796
don't live in some desert hellhole and move to the snowy white promised land instead.

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>>17430772
No issue there. As a decent human, it just necessitates a higher level of caution when things get rocky.
Reward: Disturbingly clingy, but will never cheat.

If you're a dick, it means she'll sleep with you faster.
Reward: Quick lay, will then proceed down your list of friends until she finds the biggest (literal) dick.

My girlfriend has been abused by every other man in her life. I just happen to not only be the only decent guy, but the largest she's ever seen.

>>17430796
Mesh jackets are totally fine in the heat so long as you're moving.

I wear one all year, and just layer up under it when it gets cold.

>>17430796
Vented motocross gear and a camelbak with ice in it.

Also you can just get used to the heat somewhat. Last summer I worked at a factory in the desert that used magnesium and the heat level was somewhere around Literally Hell. I got to the point where I could drive home with the windows down and AC on in 108 degree weather and not sweat a drop.

>>17430796
>southern california
>heat

>>17430733
>Triumph Daytona.

>Inline 2.

Nigger, are you serious?

>>17430835
Thing is she's not that clingy.
And she currently divorcing her dick of a husband.
She wants to wait, and I'm cool with, not doing anything until it's all finalized.
We're both a bit older with some decent life experience, so things are going at a much slower pace for both of us. Still, when she says my bike is hot, kind of amazing.

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Who makes bikes with good roofs? Asking for a friend.

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>>17430989

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>>17430989
I've seen a couple of those BMW scooters with the roofs irl. They look pretty slick would like to ride one. If I lived somewhere that was hot a lot but rained a lot (like, a monsoonal place) I'd seriously consider one.

what is optimal weight for riding a sports bike? im /fit/ and going to be at 200lbs, will this be a problem

>>17431024
As light as possible, but you shouldn't care unless you race professionally.

>>17431007
Pre-brain damage Richard Hammond review:

https://youtu.be/RNTSkXC0L6E

>>17431024
I think being capable of throwing it around for a prolonged amount of time is a bigger consideration, since modern engines are pretty ridiculous to begin with.
Unless you're starting small displacement. In that case, practice and pray.

>>17431024
Doesn't matter except for pros bro. That's just a good excuse for manlet bikers to be DYEL. In fact being strong is going to let you manhandle the bike better. I can ride trails longer than my friends without my arms getting fatigued because of lifting.

>>17431083
>sport bike
>trails
The only thing he'll be "manhandling" the bike around is potholes and dead animals

>>17431091
>he thinks there is no strength exerted on a bike when it's being leaned from one side to the other around twisties

hello no bike

>>17431101
>implying I ride in anything other than straight lines

>>17431024
At the target weight of 200lbs, you might have a problem with your height actually. A fit 200 pounder is likely to be at least 6 foot tall, more likely even taller. Majority of sport bikes are unfortunately made for short riders.

>>17431048
>>17431081
>>17431083
thanks br/o/s

>>17431108
It's good being honest like that

>>17431007
There's one that parks at an importing company next to my climbing gym. I want it.

>>17431055
>Seat belts on a bike.

I'll pass.

>le twisties twisties twisties!
you guys are as bad as daddies cummies fags

>>17431442
What did he mean by this?

>>17431479
it does sound kind of faggy t b h

>>17431479
do you realize how fucking retarded it sounds hearing a grown man saying twisties

>take MSF Advanced Rider Course
>actually pretty good
>6-person class plus two instructors
>scraping pegs in two of the exercises
>get told to dial it back a little but otherwise good job
>breeze through obstacle avoidance exercises
My V-Stronk is hax.

>>17431524
>>17431490
Grown men usually prefer the word 'canyons' or 'mountains' even if it's not technically correct at the time

>>17431490
>>17431524
Yea what a faggotty term, I call them curly wurly poos

>>17430466
pls respond I need to know if grorious nippon steeru is a sinking ship or not

>>17430466
>>17431608
They only discontinued the R right? The X and F are still available.

>>17431617
yeah but doesn't exactly bode well, the only model in the class to get any kind of modernization gets canned and the only thing left are the same dinosaurs that have been around since Clinton was president.

>>17430466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylEkhrLKgCc

>>17431626
feels bad, is there any kind of multi-cylinder than can meet yurocuck emissions while remaining in the same weight class as the single cylinders?

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>>17431632
My mighty KLE, of course.

There is nothing wrong with having more than one cyllinder in a dual sport.

>>17431625
>people have to buy more DRZ's and KTM's
I don't see the problem here :*)

>>17431643
well the downsides are apparently higher weight and higher cost, two things I'd rather not have. If there is a way around that I'd like to know, I can't claim to be an expert on motorcycle engines.

>>17431657
>KTM literally 11 grand for a comparable model

Is that inevitable or what? Is there a future for a light, cheap dual sport?

>>17431643
>weight
As far as I am concerned there are no dual sports with more than one cylinder. Closest thing would be the F700GS and that still weighs 461lbs.
If KTM's new 790 ends up coming in under 400lbs then maaaybe

Only supermoto with two cylinders is the SXV and that's only light enough because it's a race bike that breaks all the time. If Aprilia found a way to make the RXV reliable and have long maintenance intervals it'd be a sick dual sport.

>>17431671
You get what you pay for. The KTM's outclass the jap competition in every way, so they cost more. They also require less aftermarket farkles /usually/.
Supposedly KTM is going to make a 390 adventure, we'll see if that actually happens.
>Is there a future for a light, cheap dual sport?
Lightness is expensive, so probably not.

>>17431698
Well it's expensive if you also want to meet faggot ass emission laws simultaneously apparently.

Do the high tech euro singles get better gas mileage at least?

>>17429369
>implying the people that invented math are the kind of people that live there now

>>17429897
>what is a natural skin tone

Fuck off Tyrone

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>>17431723
We hotep now?

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I love this thing.

Goddamn, I thought chicken strips were just a /dbt/ meme and nobody who can actually ride has them, but I was at a bike show and every sport bike had 1 inch+ chicken strips, Ducatis, Yamahas, Hondas, Trumphs, everything. I can scrub mine off going through intersections and neighborhoods, how /cantturn/ are these people?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRwxqWXuXI&list=WL&index=7

>>17431707
>Do the high tech euro singles get better gas mileage at least?
Most stock 701 riders are seeing 50mpg, I get 40-45mpg on my tuned up one, and fucking 35mpg hooning. That's pretty standard from what I've seen though for all big thumpers, maybe a 390 would get 60.

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>>17431838

>busrider:thepost

>>17431838
Greater than .5 is strange, but I would understand if a person was city only (Why own a sportbike tho?).
I don't lean hard in intersections because I slow down so I don't get smeared by a free right. Heaven forbid a person running the light.

>>17428951
Indeed. It's about time Harley learned about modern technology.
>>17428961
A real motorcycle WAS one from Milwaukee. Didn't you hear that EBR went under again back in January?

>>17431854
>That's pretty standard from what I've seen though for all big thumpers
but the KTM and derivatives make like twice the power don't they?

I would imagine if you took a japanese dinosaur and bored it out or whatever to get the power more in line with the KTM it would make the mpg suffer no?

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>>17431887
Yep.
Until recently the KTM 690 was 654cc, basically the same as the Jap dual sports. Still made way more power. My 701 is 693cc and makes 68whp with a pipe and pod filter. To make an XR650R make this much power it'd be a fully built race engine on race gas, none of the other dual sports can make that much as far as I am aware.

>>17431975
A DR650 can, barely, with a 790 or so big bore kit, headwork, cam, and the usual carburetor and airbox work.

>>17431987
i think youd be sacrificing pretty much everything that made it appealing to do so
namely, the reliability and longevity

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>>17431975
>>17431987
>>17431996
so where does KTM pick up the slack then? What about their design gives them the power?

>>17432005
It won't make a huge difference unless you're riding right on the edge of grip, but i'd do it anyway, a front tire is maybe $100.

>>17431996
I can't speak from personal experience, but ProCycle claims that it should be basically the same since the reciprocating mass of the larger piston is the same-ish of the stock one.

>>17431975
Comparing a brand new bike to something that hasn't seen development in over a decade.

Kek.

>>17432012
Liquid cooling, fuel injection, DOHC, much higher compression ratio, probably much larger valves for better air flow.

>>17432012
who knows
KTM's engine is revised every few years, the DR hasn't been updated in 21 years, the KTM is EFI and has shorter maintenance intervals too. There's no reason Yamaha couldn't build a bike to compete with it, they just don't.

>>17432021
Okay compare it to a brand new DR650 then, the DR will do even worse than the XRR.

>>17432026
The LC4 engine is SOHC.

>>17432013

Such a waste of precious rubber

I should do a bunch of stoppies first

>>17432021
Also you realize the 690 has been around for like 15 years too, right? KTM just updates their shit, unlike Jap companies. That's part of the reason the KTM's cost more.

How do I get rid of my chicken strips? Just lean and pray?

>>17432044
Just go to a parking lot and practice riding in circles until you scrape something hard, then post pictures on /dbt/ and say you passed a bunch of sport bikes on the touge.

>>17432050
I don't really care about appearances, I just wanna stop slowing down.

>>17432026
google says its sohc. for liquid cooling the xr650r mentioned above is liquid cooled isn't it? fuel injection is a clear difference. for the compression apparently the old jap bikes hover around 10 and the ktm around 12.

how much of a difference does the compression make and what allows them to have the higher compression? also I know that fuel injection is supposed to be leagues different than carburated

>>17432042
Actually this is kinda wrong, the LC4 engine has been around for that long, the 690 bike itself has only been around since 2008.

>>17432056
You can't really break it down and point to individual things. KTM decided to build a more expensive, higher powered engine with a little shorter maintenance intervals, and continually refines the design, the Jap companies decide to build cheaper engines with longer maintenance intervals and not change them for decades because people keep buying them. That's about the long and the short of it.

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>>17432054
Get coaching instead of listening to internet tryhards.
Nobody here can see you cant your body the wrong way, regardless of what your tires look right.

>>17432065
>You can't really break it down and point to individual things
Why not? I'd like to know the underlying principles of the design, compare the old to the new.

>>17432069
*look like.

>>17432031
I could give a shit about Suzuki therefore could give a shit about said comparison.

>>17432042
That's essentially what I said just worded differently.

>>17432069
So I should just go to those lessons track days?

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Idk about my ride home from work tonight dbt. Do you think I caught any bad juju from this guy who died? Cops said they think he hit the tree doing about 80ish

>>17432065
Also, talking about price beyond the engine, KTM chooses to use generally higher quality components in their bikes and charge more for them. All of the bolts on my 701 are anodized torx cap hex heads, more aluminium and stainless shit, composite materials in place of steel etc. That's not to say they don't have issues with parts, like for example their starter motors were shit for a while.

>>17432075
Because the differences in engine design are cumulative, and all the decisions that went into the design were a compromise, KTM just chose to err on the side of power more often than the Japanese companies.

>>17432087
You're talking shit about me comparing two brand new bikes in the same market category, if you can't compare them then you can't compare anything.

>>17432092
Yes

>>17432102
>Because the differences in engine design are cumulative,
well yeah that's why I was trying to break it down into individual things

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>>17431838
Only the fastest have strips. Check out the tendies on this guy

>>17432056
>difference does the compression make

Higher compression allows you to run a richer mix and actually use all the fuel, so you get more power in the stroke

>what allows them to have the higher compression

Interference valves, more sophisticated piston and cylinder head geometry, and also having your customers buy higher-octane gas. All of which is more expensive.

High performance engines always have a few things in common:

Short stroke, large bore: this allows a shorter, fatter connecting rod for the same cylinder displacement as a long-stroke, small-bore engine, so the con rods can withstand higher RPMs. It also allows a larger cylinder head, which means more airflow (larger valve openings).

Four valves per cylinder: more airflow, again.

High compression ratio: more complete burn, richer mix, more power per stroke.

Basically engine power is torque X RPM, so you maximize RPM with a shorter stroke and as much airflow as possible, and maximize torque with high compression and premium gas.

These things cost money, however, because a higher RPM engine has to be engineered to withstand greater speeds (obviously), and machining convoluted cylinder heads is more expensive than just milling out a hemi and calling it a day. Also cooling becomes more of a problem.

>>17432109
There are much better resources for learning about high performance engine design than a tripfag on 4chan.

>>17432132
it's hard to find those things if you don't even know the parameters or terms or anything though. that's why asking noobie questions on internet forums is helpful

>>17432125
like this, thanks a lot friend

>>17432109
Literally everything.
>slightly more cc's
>slightly larger valves
>slightly higher compression
>need slightly stronger valvetrain now lol
>need a little bigger fuel injector now
>now we need a second spark plug for a complete burn
>lets put a balance shaft in the head now to balance things out
>now we can raise the redline 1k since it's more balanced
>now we need an even more aggressive cam
>now we need bigger shafts in the bottom end so they don't snap under the added power
^This is literally the latest revision of the LC4 which I have in my bike

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>>17431854
>>17431887
>>17431975
My 390 gets 65mpg on the touge (but only 50 in LA traffic.) At 40RWHP, it's more powerful than a DRZ400, and it's only a 370cc

>>17432142
Yes but please compare torque figures
Iirc the drz makes over 40ft/lbs

>>17432142
>buying a duke 390

lmao

>>17432098
what makes you think that? Did you push him into the tree?

>>17432142
>it's more powerful than a DRZ400
Not really something to brag about desu senpai, DRZ motor hasn't been updated in 17 years
>new ACCT in 2003 doesn't count

>>17432142
Does it run on poo too?

new bread

>>17432151