[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

>>17312981
ktm a best

What are some good motorcycle earplugs?

More importantly: where/how can I watch the isle of man?
Is there a livestream somewhere?

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namaste

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>>17312981
i need to know what bike to get! its my first 1!

>>17313016
Mack's Ultra Soft. Comfortable enough that I've forgottent to take them out when I get off my bike. I've even slept with them in my ears.
The main thing I like is that they're soft and not too big so they don't pop out when putting your helmet on/taking it off. Also they don't puff back up as quickly so it's easier to stuff them in your ear for a good seal unlike those terrible big orange ear plugs. I squeeze them and they start puffing back up before I can get them deep enough in my ear.

>>17313051
get an r6 you dunce

>>17313051
R3 is a meme with no meme magic
FZ6R is a gimped FZ6
So basically, get neither.

I test rode baiks yesterday while the shop was putting new tires on mine.

2017 FJ-09

>hilariously tall
>seat was like sitting on the wide part of a 2x8
>dumb engine noise at idle
>throttle by wire was twitchy

2017 Z900

>loooooow seat height
>comfy in the parking lot, not great on the road
>supposedly 126hp, but it felt slow
>shitty brakes
>tiny dash
>looks neat?

2017 FZ-10

>inconveniently fast
>power wheelies in gears 1-4
>handling was decent, but not good enough for a bike with that much power
>weird power delivery
>comes on HARD in low rpm, fizzles a bit, then tears a hole in your scrot above 8k
>all that speed, none of that wind protection
>seat is just a wider version of a MX seat and provides no fore/aft support
>aside from your dickbeaters gripping the handlebar, literally nothing about this bike wants you to remain on the bike during acceleration
>airbox sticks out from under the tank, so you get a square piece of plastic jabbing the inside of your leg/knee during leaning
>lolcruisecontrol

2017 R6

>linear power on a supersport??
>revs to 16.5k
>dat sound above 6k
>dat sound at 16.5k
>BRAKES
>thin bike is thin
>very agile
>excellent wind protection, even at 130+
>IS IT SO HARD TO PUT A DAMN FUEL GUAGE ON A 2017 MODEL

>>17313112
>Fuel gauge
I know right. Old shitbikes have them. My 2017 gsxr doesn't have one
>Just a little digital bar would be fine

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What does /dbt/ think of my 72' cb100 I've been restoring and rebuilt from scratch over the last few months?

Just need new bars, brakes, battery and tyres.
She tries to idle but stalks after 1-3 seconds after kicking it over so I'm a bit of registration yet though.

>>17313128
I don't know how I feel about that tank. I want to hate it, but I don't, but I still think red would have been better.

>>17313051
Sv650

>>17313101
It's a different bike altogether from an fz6

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>>17313128
Looks like sissy trap hipster gay beta nu-male homo pinko commie antifa cuckboi bbc nigger lover shit. Enjoy being a cuckold.

>>17313128
Tank a side panels need to be the same color
Seat isn't quite sitting right

Besides from that great job! Must feel satisfied seeing it back together

>>17313122
How do fuel gauges work on bikes? Are they actually floaters in the gas tank like on cars? How would that even work?

>>17313051
XJ6
ER-5
GS500

>>17313170
Those are all shit bikes.

>>17313177
They're perfectly fine for a first bike.

>>17313177
There pretty kit kuck tier

>>17313181
Yes, and no.

If I had the budget for an r3 or fz6r , I wouldn't be getting a 1400 dollar poverty bike. A mint fuel injected late model sv650 could be had for r3 prices.

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>>17313128
Yeah, fuck that tank paint. Especially against that battery cover.
Looks like you are probably giving the engine case a once over anyway. Buy a bottle of Jameson and give the cylinder a solid once over, inside and out. If you haven't touched the carb, pull it apart, change everything rubber.

Or, like I do to my shit-scooter twice a year, run an entire can of seafoam through it in a single tank, single sitting.
Which does mean babysitting thr throttle for an hour. Do it with a book in the left hand.

I do want to float this again. Motorbike parenting (irresponsible uncle-ing)
https://youtu.be/Pl6x3HVICSU

(My brother races cars. Don't judge me.)

>>17313061
Scratch this, I just saw Amazon reviews saying they've changed the material and now they're shit.
FFS it looks like I'm searching for good ear plugs too now

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>>17313186
You're thinking of the cx500. I miss that bike but my new bike is much more fun.

>>17313187
What don't you understand about "First bike"

Also, the XJ6 is more expensive than the R3. Even here where the R3 is rare because why get one if you have your A2?

>>17313199
>Living somewhere with Draconian license laws
El oh el

>>17313202
Only the young fucks have it. I never had to deal with that bullshit.

>>17313207
I didn't have to deal with it either. I paid 50 bucks, ride around a parking lot and took a 25 question test and that was that.

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>>17313122
You have a petcock and an odometer. Figure it out.

>>17313192
I miss the CX500 for you.
That was a very cool bike that Honda might not duplicate again (except for perhaps the CB 1100)

>>17313219
why would anyone want a cx500 over a cb400sf?

>>17313226
Muh twisted v twin
>>17313219
I really enjoyed it. Great first bike for 800 bucks.

>>17313230
>I really enjoyed it. Great first bike for 800 bucks.
oh well. It would have been a bitch to do it up like it deserved.
I myself went from a CB900 (honda 919) to an Africa twin which I really like.

>first time changing chain, sprockets and clutch
>doing at my parents place since i have no room
>they have no tools
>strap everything to my bike and ride 20km to their place
>pulling everything apart, cataloguing where everything comes from, placing them in labeled magnet trays
>decide to start pulling chain section apart
>realise i dont have a chain breaker/rivet tool
>3pm stores arent open, wont be open tomorrow either
>have to order something online and leave my bike in an unfinished state in someone elses garage for a week

Fuck you australian trading hours, fuck you.

>>17313272
Where about's are you? Brisbane here.

>>17313272
>3pm stores arent open
wat how do they make any money?

>>17313272
Why do yo need a chain breaker?
just use a flat head screw driver and a hammer.

>>17313286
>Why do yo need a chain breaker?
does that sound like the right tool for the job with a nice bike mate?

>>17313292
Its a chain that you are replacing what the fuck does it matter?
you won't even damage the pins doing it like that, thats how i always change my chains.
cut it off with an angle grinder even.

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Is a Suzuki GSX 250R a good beginner bike?

>>17313215
>2017 bikes
>having a petcock
lol

>>17313112
you're a fucking subhuman mongloid and im glad you dont review bikes for a living because if you did you'd be a broke ass nigger. Fucking cumguzzler kys and get and a shitty grom you harley riding hell bound homo

>>17313169
Like shit mostly. They're floats but the internal shape of a supersport fuel tank is all fucking retarded, so it's debatable if you would actually get any kind of useful information at all you don't from the low fuel light.

My bike has a way less fucked up fuel tank and bigger fuel range and the gauge still tells you precisely fuck all until you've been riding 150-200km then drops too fast to keep track of what kind of mileage you're currently getting, so in the city I just fill up when it's flashing and on the highway I always go off the trip odometer for planning stops anyways. There's not enough to be gained to bother risking it.

>>17313226
Because they aren't 5'4"

>>17313328
>lanklets want to into motorcycles
top kek

>>17313016
from what I can tell, you don't really watch the isle of man. there is not a particularly interesting livestream. this is because there are a couple hundred corners across more than than thirty miles of road, compared to a dozen corners on a small track. not enough cameras to go around. not enough airspace for helicopters either because ambulances take priority, and on-bike footage is hard to livestream reliably.

however, you can listen to the radio broadcast, and watch the highlights that are assembled at the end of the day.

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>>17313337
>short people wanting to think they're relevant in a sport about leverage and reach
Go drive karts and ride horses.

>>17313360
>lanklet posts a bunch on manlets trying to say they are tall
damage control the post

>>17313347
tfw the fastest video drones a two minute google search can find top out at 145mph and can probably only keep that up for a a few seconds, maybe minutes. sick vid though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQYZgNlrLA8

>one camera drone per rider when
>choose on a website which rider's stream you want to follow

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>>17313360
Pedrosa
>5ft2 inches
Lorenzo
>5ft6 inches
Rossi
>5ft9 inches

>>17313384
found the FPV of this run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAJyGfpV0dw

>>17313387
Nicky Hayden
> -6ft

>>17313397
too soon asshole

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>>17313397

>>17313278
adelaide bro

>>17313286
it's not breaking the chain thats on there thats the problem, it's that ihave to chorten the new chain and some how rivet it without the proper tools.

>>17312981
Hey /o/,
So I've finally moved out, and no more family car to move around
Spainfag here, long story short Car license allows me to drive 125cc bikes
So been thinking about geting a second hand 125cc for around 500-600€, just not scooter-like
Are daelim daystar 125 and kymco superlight 125 trustworthy?
I guess its too little info but I dont know the dynamics of the board so good, so I'll expand if anyone cares

>>17313409
mate I had no car for two years and just commuted to work/gym on my CB900. Saved lots of money. Had the groceries delivered. Used the family car if I had to move things.

>>17313383
>anyone taller than 5'4" is a lanklet
>anyone shorter than 6' is a manlet
Make up your mind shorty

>>17313411
Fuck that chink/gook shit and get an RS125

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>>17313051

CB650 at least looks good.

They are all pretty weak beginner bikes though of course.

Whatever happened to powerful cheap mid-range nakeds? Hornet, FZ-6, Z750...?

>>17313426
The post-2017 650 is only down 5hp on the carbed Hornets and has higher peak torque than any of them that's made way lower down the rev range.

Anyways it's because European license laws changed in 2013 that <95hp bikes became more desirable than anything slightly more powerful than that.

>>17313016
I've used 3M classic foamies for many years on the flightline, in the shop, when shooting and for riding. They help keep your ears clean and you can wash them with your laundry. (I toss them in a pocket or sock.)

>>17313128
>She tries to idle but stalks after 1-3 seconds

"Stalks" is a mistranslation of something (a "hunting" idle that's not stable?) but if the carb hasn't been disassembled and dipped I suggest doing that to make sure the low speed jet, emulsion tube and internal passages are clean.

>>17313451
+50cc -5HP

>>17313299
I have proper chain breakers but for removal I wouldn't hesitate to cut off chains with a zip disk in an angle grinder or grind off the heads of the pins on one side for easier splitting with a chisel or screwdriver because it's faster. I've done plenty of them that way for self and customers. It's perfectly harmless.

>>17313407
>it's not breaking the chain thats on there thats the problem, it's that ihave to chorten the new chain and some how rivet it without the proper tools.

This chain breaker design works well. I've used them for many years.

https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0001-Chain-Breaker/dp/B000GTXNI6/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_263_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9RFPCG3HVRCB3GMT754F

>>17313272
>realise i dont have a chain breaker/rivet tool
How the fuck can you forget this. I bought mine months in advance

>>17313487
>>17313475
>>17313470
>not using a master link
Do you hate yourselves or something?

>>17313309
yeah but dont expect much, iirc it is the same engine and frame as the GW250 but with sports bike fairings. the gw250 was fairly heavy and slow, but still a cool bike, i got a GSF250V which is HELLA fun. Really nice for motorway riding which I do a fair bit of because its not right at the redline or anything cruising (sits at like 8k-9k rpmish)

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>>17313496
>tfw Enuma master race

>>17313487
i got shit going on nig nog. 2 houses to upkeep, 2 bikes to upkeep, a car thats falling apart, full time job and crypo miners to build/run.

I did think about the chain tool about 2 weeks ago and then it was suddlenly 3pm today and i was shit out of luck.

At least tomorrow i'll get the clutch fnished up and take the other bike out for a skip through the hills.

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>>17313515

>>17312981
What insurance do you guys have? I'm in the states. Also, does anyone have an insured salvage bike?

>>17313527
i don't have insurance

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>>17313523

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Meanwhile in Germany.

>>17313611
that can't be germany, no one is wearing turbans or burquas

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>bike isn't going to be ready till Wednesday
what have I done to deserve this suffering

>>17313624
You let a filthy grease monkey work on your bike instead of doing it yourself.

>>17313619
Why you gotta make everything politicised?

>>17313632
It's a pretty well known fact that 90% of germans are muslim.
Hitler would be rolling in his grave if he had one.

>>17313635
Can you maybe get the political memes out of your system on /int/ or /pol/ and then return?

>>17313640
>triggered
why don't you go to your local mosque and declare a jihad?

Moto2 will change their CBR600RR engine for some Triumph 3-cylinders in 2019, what /dbt/ think of this ?

>>17313122
should've waited, next year's gixxers are getting a fuel gauge

>>17313128
Why did it take you more than 2 days?

>>17313664
Destroked Daytona 675?

>>17313673
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/06/03/triumph-announced-as-moto2-engine-supplier-from-2019/230116

yeah

>>17313678
So wait, are they going to destroke the engine or raise the allowed displacement in the class regulations?

>>17313715
oh, well i guess they'll keep the 675cc as it is, since it's a 3 cylinders, they have to put more cc to have the same power as a 4.

>>17313747
they'll make them 765 cc

>>17313527
Geico was best price for me, shopped around and progressive was a close 2nd. My buddy had a salvaged title zrx1200, he only paid a bit more for insuring it. It wasn't too bad though.

>>17313715
>class regulations

the regulation says "use this engine we provide" not "your engine has to have this displacement"

>>17313802
What's stopping a small shop from just buying the power plant and building a bike around it?
Regulations?
WAT racing gp team when?

>>17313809
>What's stopping a small shop from just buying the power plant and building a bike around it?
Nothing. Most of the chassis builders in Moto2 are shops no one's ever heard of otherwise. The chassis builders currently competing are austrian KTM, german Kalex, swiss Suter, french Tech 3 and italian Speed Up.

>>17313809
well Honda asked for something like a 200k$ fee for their engines.

Triumph is supposedly be much cheaper so its time for /dbt/ to start a gofundme i guess.

>>17313824
>inb4 it's unreliable garbage but natural selection can't do its work because everyone's forced to use it

>>17313831
well thats moto2 i guess

>>17313824
>200'000$
Per engine?
Sounds doable
Any news on the triumph pricing?
Are the blocks anything like the commercial ones?
Could you build a frame using a stock engine as a mockup, bolt the race spec in, get famous, them sell the frame with 500$ scrapyard engines?

>>17313840
i read its gonna be under 100k somewhere.

>Don't ride bike
>maybe i have the wrong bike, that's why i'm not riding it
>maybe i need another bike
>maybe i need two others bikes so i can ride more
>let's check craigslist
>ooh, WR450, only $3000

>Ride bike
>this bike is fine

Is this the secret behind N+1? Not riding your bike?

Does the disease come back if you ride your bike too much and actually come up with valid reasons to have more bikes?

i need this bike in my life
also, no live tv coverage of the isle of man tt?
how come the bbc do live coverage of the northwest 200 but not the isle of man?

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>>17313870
this bike

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john mcguinness on the island
what a lad

>>17313872
>R-nineT scrambler

Yeah, m8 go for it

is a borked CCT a warranty case?

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Does anyone know where I can get prices for KTM power-parts in Australia?
I've look at their website but it doesn't actually say how much each product costs.

>>17313840
>200k for a fucking engine
Taking the engine out of a brandnew CBR600RR would be cheaper lmao.

>>17313894
I buy most of the parts for my KTM from rockymountainATV.com
they seem to have fairly good prices on most things.

>>17313870
Git a stream

I ordered motorvision.tv on amazon video and canceled it instantly.

Now i get 14 days for free and can watch TT.

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>>17313619
>>17313635
>>>/pol/

We dont need shit like this here

>>17313671
Ordering parts; I needed a new gear as one had a tooth broken, It needed new rings; top end bearing and piston head for the engine.

I had to re weld a crack in the chassis and get it approved, and I don't have much spare time at all.
But yes, I'm a slow fuck.

>>17313461
I have rebuilt the carb and cleaned it properly. I suspect that i have set the mixture wrong or the timing/ points is incorrect. I have little to no idea how to tune an engine you see.

>>17313188
I have black pannel covers and a black seat too. My mirrors are black red and white so i'm trying to include those three colours somehow.

>>17313152
Aye, the seat is just sitting for the photo. it buts up to the tank.

On a scale from "just fix it yourself" to "buy a new bike", how bad is a broken alternator?

>>17314038
do you have a few hours to spare for meticulously winding wire?

>>17314038
No biggie, got to prolly drain the oil though

>>17314038
Order one along with its gasket

>>17314038
> unplug old stator wiring from bike and free it up
> lay bike over on clutch side
> loosen all stator cover bolts
> tap on cover with plastic handle of screwdriver or deadblow hammer to knock it loose
> remove cover
>remove failed stator
>clean old gasket off
>install new stator
>reassemble
unplugging the old one will probably take you longer than actually replacing it

I'm going to buy this.

Tiger 800XC ABS,
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-touring/winnipeg/tiger-800xc-abs/1269878405?

My fjr can go fuck itself.

>>17314109
i know the 800 triple is a decent engine, but isnt 100k pushing the service limit on that thing?

>>17314109
>abs

VFR800 or F800ST?

>>17314114
From what I know about triumphs, what other owners have told me is that they can go into the 200,000kms range. There's also the matter of this bike being $4000 cheaper than any other tiger 800 in Canada and that it's local, not an 8-14 hour drive away.

>>17314115
What's so bad about abs?

>>17313514
this guy gets it

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>>17313876
What a trooper, glad to see him there
What is he even riding though lol

any strims for TT?

>>17314092
>> lay bike over on clutch side

not everybody has some 120Kg shitbike

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>>17314288
this works for most bikes, if you dont want to take fairings off you can use jacks or blocks to hit hardpoints.
if your bike is too heavy to lay down/ pick up, you fucked up

>>17314351
or you could just drain the fucking oil.

General thoughts on an 87 Honda Magna 700? Found one just down the street, good condition and $1500.

>>17314359
heavy and kinda slow, but if you like it and its not beat, go for it

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>>17314355
>Not having a dry stator

>>17313272
>cut off old chain with bolt cutters or angle grinder
>angle grind rivet heads and push pin through to remove links
>use c-clamp and a nut to press master link together
>use pliers to attach clip
I was using my dad's tools when I changed my chain, turned out his old dirt bike chain breaker was the wrong size.

>>17313112
>hilariously tall
Manlet

Does going with a lightly colored / glossy helmet make any meaningful difference in comfort/temperature? I just grabbed the first one off the shelf (Bell Qualifier in matte black) and it is hot as fuck in the sun. Not sure if that is just the way it is or not.

>>17314662
No shit black is going to be hot as fuck.

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>new motorcycle
>check engine light always comes on when the engine is killed
>accidentally dump the clutch and stall the bike
>check engine light no longer comes on

Can the NC wheelie?
I really want to get a crashed one to make a lightweight commuter, but it might be just TOO utilitarian

>>17313905
Year's engine lease obviously, including rebuilds. 90000EUR out of a 400000EUR budget.

>>17314796
That's just to run the bike though, apparently more like 1.5 mil for a two rider team in total.

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>>17314753
Every bike can wheelie.

This is a weird one. Way home from work yesterday, steering is suddenly noticeably heavy. Haven't hit/rode over anything, forks at least appear fine looking at them, no fluid leaks (not USD, so even if a seal went the fluid should stay in mostly), bars are straight. My guess is probably tyre pressure (won't have a chance to check until later), but is there anything else I should be checking for?

>>17314837
Check the rear suspension

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So I'm a cruiserfag now. It feels different but still fun. A lot more pickup then my little cbr250r, which I'm grateful for, but I think I'm going to end up missing a windscreen when I ride it on the highway.

Thus far I've taken apart and fixed the turn signal switch and adjusted the rear brake switch. Need to lubricate the return throttle cable by the feel of it. Oil/brake/coolant change eventually. Carbs are weird coming from EFI but not issues yet.

Now I just need to make a beaded seat cover for it...

>>17314837
bearings

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Just got back from test riding the tiger 800xc I posted earlier. I think I'm gonna do it.

Any tips for getting rid of stickers?

>>17314860
Acetone

>>17314865
Wouldn't that hurt the plastic?

>>17314860
GooGone works pretty well from the times I've used it. Just make sure to wipe away the residue.

>>17314860
wd40

>>17314813
Even a 50hp automatic one?

>>17312981

aaaaaaaaaaagh

I mean I get that it's a race and the road is closed but wiggling back and forth across the lanes like that just skeeves me out on a fundamental, instinctive level

AAAAAAAGh

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>>17314907
Even <10hp 50cc automatic scooters can

>>17314837
You're probably just a pussy

>>17314662
Yes, it'll also make you more visible without having to dress up like a traffic cone.

>>17314860
Gently brush petrol over the stickers. Do them all and leave for a minute. Then get a blow torch and lightly singe them from about a foot away. They will curl up and fall off leaving no sticky residue thanks to the petrol as the solvent

>>17314927
Ye, but that scoot weighs 90kilos and all its weight is down and back
AND it's probably on oversized rollers
I'm talking about a computer controlled DCT

>>17314945
>weighs 90kg

Yes, but a 50hp bike would have more relative power.

The Honda NC700 can wheelie in auto mode, it just takes some skill.

Say I have to do my lessons and my test on a 600 to get an unrestricted license

But my bike that I want to daily ride, and that I'll be non-lesson learning to ride on, is only an itty-bitty 175

Am I going to find a big difference between the two? If I do most of my practicing on a small bike, and I get used to the small bike, but I do have some experience on a big bike, am I going to find it very difficult doing the test on a big bike?

Which classe is guy martin racing in?

>>17314990
Yeah, nigger
What are you 24?

If I buy a bike off craigslists how do I get it home if I never rode a street bike b4? Should I go buy a cheap helmet and jacket and just try to get it home myself? Small town and not a lot of traffic, no highways. Should be an easy way home but I never rode a bike with a clutch/gears.

>>17315070
>How would the rear affect the steering?
With a stronger pre tension you put more weight on the front.

>>17315064
Easy. You just build revs to about 7k then let go of the clutch. Don't let go of the throttle or you'll stall it. When you let go of the clutch the resistance from the road will drop the revs so you need lots of revs to start with.
Personally wouldn't bother getting helmet etc in advance if it's such a short journey

>>17315100

I'm not retarded bro, I used to drive a 6 speed manual car. My plan would be to drive super slow in like 2nd gear all the way home.

>>17315046
Superbike and Superstock

>>17314840
Thanks. How would the rear affect the steering?
>>17314858
Probably not, only replaced the front bearings a few weeks ago, with decent ones too.

A regular hoodie and some jeans are good to start out with right? I mean later on I'll get real gear but for now its better than nothing right? Here in Florida i see guys in sport bikes wearing shorts and flip flops.

>>17314941
This seems really sketchy

>>17315163
depends on how much you like your skin bud

>>17315124
Nononono
Don't
Get it in 6th and stay there
That way you won't break traction if you fuck up throttling

>>17315163
r u gonna jump off a bridge cuz some retards in Florida do that to?

>>17315269

I don't plan on falling, I don't plan on going over 40mph. I've done 40mph on a moped anyways but it was automatic

>>17315278

won't I stall it that way?

>>17315289
>I don't plan on falling
loweffortbait.jpg

>>17315289
How big is it?
Anything with more than 400cc can do it
My point is that you want to keep the revs low to avoid whiskey throttling her into a semi

>>17315151
replaced the steering bearing?

Maybe I should just have the owner follow me home first and then offer to drive him back, and then use my neighborhood as a training ground. I feel like I can easily ride a motorcycle its just the fucking clutch and shifting I'm going to mess up at first.

>>17315295

I'm looking at 600's because the 250s and 300s are even more expensive

>cleaned baiku
>cleaned it good
>took cones to dead end road
>went through all the exercises that I learned in riding school, except 9 m circle
>ezpz
Noice.
Now what's next? Setting up longer slalom runs up and down the road (bit of a problem because some cars still go through there occasionally, plus it'd be just straight, 180 degree turn, straight back, turn around, rinse and repeat)? Try to find a big parking lot (difficult to find here) to set up a time trial course with non 180 degree turns?

>>17315316
No, look at 650 class, 800tops
A 600 is a race replica, not a scootfag's introduction to bikes

>>17313857
>Is this the secret behind N+1? Not riding your bike?
Pretty much, yes, unless you're super unhappy with your bike when you're riding it (and even then it's probably you not doing the right kind of riding on it).

>>17315316
The reason 600s are so cheap is because they are stunter bikes, flogget to fuck and back
Remember, a 250-300 you'll be able to resell at no loss, if not at a profit.
Anything else depreciates like crazy

>fly by police speed trap, 80 in a 45
>the SUV doesn't chase me
is it possible they were using an automatic plate scanner

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Hey looking into getting a bike. I made a few grand buying cryptocurrencies.

Don't have a license yet but they have a school in my county.

Is it best to buy after that?

Was thinking of a ninja 300. Or is there a better starter sports bike?

>>17315422
"Starter sportbike" is kind of an oxymoron
I suggest getting whatever is cheap, light and reliable in your area
If you're in yurop it might make sense to get the bike first to tra in during your permit, but in the US you should do the MSF
It's like 30$, will get you a license quick and will lower your insurance
Plus you get to learn and crash on a bike that's not yours

>>17315422
pretty much all starter sports bike are the same; just pick ur favourite or whichever fits your budget

>>17315393
maybe idk, in my state auto-scanners have been banned, I never see camera traps either

>>17315450
haha fuck, my state doesn't ban them

>>17315439
>like $30
WTF I paid like $250 I think

huh it turns out my county has motorcycle police, but I've never once seen one and I've lived here my entire life

>>17315458
Eh
Depends state by state
>literally more than my yurop license

>>17315307
Nope, front sheel bearings. Steering bearings were good at the last check a couple of months ago, but I'll give them another check.

>>17314875
spray wax

>>17315476
>sheel. Wheel, FUCK.
>>17315422
- Do training
- Get license
- Test ride a bunch of bikes. Look for motorcycle shows nearby, most will have a 'test ride zone' with a bunch of bikes and outriders to guide you along a pre-set road course.
- Pick a bike you like

>>17315422
From what I hear people saying, 300s get old really fast so you might want to just cut out the middle man and go for a bigger bike right from the start. My first bike is a 600 and I´m having fun on it still.

so what do you do if you get a speeding ticket? Never gotten a ticket before

A 300 is literally a sport bike with a moped engine attached

>>17315541
Please, the brakes, suspension and electronics are not even close to real sports bikes

>>17315476
>Steering bearings were good at the last check a couple of months ago


yeah well that doesnt really mean anything does it?

Give it a good shake and check if there are any spots where it doesn't move smoothly.

>>17315535
Pay it.

>>17315548
A bike doesn't have to be a supersport to be a sport bike.

>>17315548

Its like a corvette but they took out the engine and put in a 4 cylinder in and put on economy tires

no gf, no worries,
no bike, no life,

>>17315519
Do you think a newbie could handle a 600?

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What is the process of getting motorcycle lisence in the US? (do you got any restrictions on the lisence?)
and what is MSF and what does it give you?

>>17315638
standards ye; supers probably not; dem brakes OP

>>17315656
Go to DMV, take written and practical test (15 questions and a 10 minute test) MSF is a course you can take, it gives you an insurance discount and counts for the DMV test.

>>17315656
>Take written motorcycle test
>take practical exam
>get license with motorcycle endorsement on it
that's it. That's why europeans make fun of the US so much.

the MSF is the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. It's used as shorthand for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation Basic Ridercourse, a motorcycle class that's designed for first time riders to learn the essentials of how bikes work and how not to kill themselves on a bike, and how to do low speed maneuvers. When you take the BRC, they give you both tests themselves, and then give you a waiver to take to the DMV.

I absolutely recommend taking the MSF course. Unless you like dying. In that case, break a leg.

>>17315656
US bike training is as useful as learning to drive a car in a toy like that.

>>17315673
Sounds exactly thebsame as here
Except it's 30 questions and you have maximum 6 months to prepare the practical

>>17315656
Slightly varies from state to state:

In NY:

You get your permit which is dumb written test.

The permit allows you to ride with a licensed rider within 1/8 mile of you at all time.

To get a full license you have two options:

1. Schedule and pass the Road Test

2. Complete an MSF coure.

The Road Test is literally fucking the following:

Two circles clockwise in a large box, two circles counter clockwise. And the same with figure eights. Then they follow you around the block. The trick being that you can't (even supervised) ride(rider OR pillion!) to the test. So you either need a friend with a bike that can meet you/come with you, OR hire a driving school to bring a bike for you to road test on.

The MSF, is the "Motorcycle Safety Foundation" course. When I did it, it was a like a 4 hour class on Thursday, and then two days of range time. At the end they give you the MSF Road Test which counts as a license waiver. You bring the waiver to DMV and they turn your permit into a license that day.

Both are an literal joke and most idiots can pass them.

Anybody in the US have a Honda Hornet?

From what I understand, they were sold int he US for three years but still sold elsewhere.

I would suspect parts to be readily available for the US then, righto?

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Any downside to having the exhaust on the left?

>>17315699
>any downside to having the exhaust

NO.

>>17315673
The MSF is like the first half of the CBT. Its the absolute bare minimum operation of a motorcycle, but in terms of actual training it's really the barest start of fuck-all.

>>17315699
you can't warm your right leg on it

>>17315699
On harleys they have shit on the other side, i guess
It mostly has to do with engine configuration, ground clearence and the fact most bikers can turn better to the left than to the right

why do dirtbikers stick their legs straight out in turns? It seems like a great way to compound fracture your fibula and explode your knee

>>17315729
Saddle height and soft suspension make it beneficial to do so, to the point they'll put the bike down and spin the rear wheel

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>some cunt thought these were a good idea
>they're ridiculously slippery even when dry
WOW ALL THE SAFETY

>>17313400
>too soon
>on 4chan

has anyone ever heard of the brand MQP?
someone is selling that stuff here but I can't find anything online about it
is it chink shit?

>>17315729
balance purposes

unlike with sport bikes you dont try to balance the bike which is impossible with rough terrain but you try to balance yourself on top of it.

thats why they lean OUT of a turn instead of into it and thats easier when keeping the inside leg straight instead of wrapped around the bike all the way to the footpegs.

>>17315690
>Complete an MSF coure.
I think this is better becuse it's less stressful

>>17315064
I truck and trailered mine but it was a town over. Nothing would be more embarrassing than wrecking it.

>>17315741
There is also a special paint that's not slippery, but it's more expensive

>>17315124
You can go up to 3rd on lower revs, that way you will have less torque and it will be easier.
>>17315289
keep the revs low, don't go 40mph on second gear, do it on 4th gear

>>17315656
Holy ufccking christ what is it with you people?
Paste your exact questions into a search engine and you can get your answers in milliseconds rather than having to wait for replies.
Wowee!

>>17315911
>implying the average users of this Latvian square dancing board are capable of that much thinking

>>17315911
>>17315915

But as a non American and non native English speaker it's much more easier to find the answer that way.
If it was in my language I would search in google first.

so fuck off you should know that not everyone here is native English speakers

>>17315928
>Google does not offer its product in a range of languages
>nor does it provide at least rudimentary translation services

Not being a native English speaker does not excuse you from using your brain.

>>17315928
But your answer will be in English here just as it would be via Google?
Don't Tell people to fuck off for no reason

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>>17315558
You mean it would less power, and use cheaper parts-----but still have all the fundamentals needed to turn a fucking corner?

Stop thinking of bikes in car terms. 300's are best for beginners so they can practice scrubbing tires before adding power.
Unless you like the flat spot on your driveway queen.

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>>17315939
>>17315934
Also I wanted to hear it from anons from here.
>short answers
>opinions of anons and more
>getting (you)s

google tranlsate is not that good to my language.

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>this was a 636

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>>17316024
(This is a legitimate language acquisition strategy, seeking a sample from several native speakers in order to split the difference and understand WHY the answer is right.)

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>>17316041
i-its their bike anon

>>17316041
[spoiler]I kind of like it[/spoiler]

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>2003 Honda CBR600 F4i. Mint Condition. Under 4000 km !. Original Tires

>Original tires

Is a 600 cc early 2000's katana a good start? They are all in my price range.

>>17316070
Oh boy. How cracked and fucked are they?

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Guys, are there any beginner resources you'd recommend to someone who is familiar with cars but knows next to nothing about bikes?

I would like to get a bike, and my main concern is how safe it'd be (I have zero interest in speed - it would be as a second vehicle for when my car is getting fixed, and for enjoying on warm weather days)

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>>17316132
Yes it's called the internet you immense fucking faggot
Fairweather riders and slow fags should be permabanned from /o/

>>17316151
Nothing in particular you'd recommend then?

There are bikes that aren't sports bikes, right?

>>17316173

yeah dual sports but they're expensive

>>17316173
YouTube and lurking here. If you want to you can go watch Twist of the Wrist and random instructional videos.

And yes there are many kinds of bikes, enduros/dual sports, adventure bikes, SuperSports, SuperBikes, Small displacement sport bikes, nakeds/ujm/standards, cruisers, sport tourers, dirt bikes, etc...
Figure out what you like and how you would want to ride and work from there

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>>17316179
Bad post desu
Enduros are cheap

>>17316209
That's a dual sport.

Some dual sports, like that tractor are cheap, but that's it.

>>17316224
They're all tractors fám.

Should I get a GoPro 5? They don't sell the hero 4 anymore. Just worried about the big microphone adapter

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>>17316132
Buy a 50$ bilt
Take the course
Then just go to the fucking dealership and lie your way into a few test rides
Example: The cb500 is made in four configurations. Walk in, say you're buying your first and want to test a [cbr500r, cb500f, cb500x, cmx500] in a single sitting. That'll give you the full spectrum from athletic >> comfortable in a single sitting.
Then, buy or leave. You'll know exactly what you want, no internet dick-wagging required.

>>17316248
Neither of those 4 is a CB 500.

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>>17316299
It's the current cb series, with the 500cc engine.
You learn math by memorizing equations or grasping concepts?

>>17316344
Yes, they're in the CB series and they have a ~500 cc engine, but neither is a CB 500. There are two bikes by that name: the old one (inline four, seventies) and the slightly less old one (PC 26 / PC 32 parallel twin, nineties). Neither of those bikes is one of the four you mentioned.

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Stupid question
How exact do I have to be with wheel weights? Mine randomly fell off and the only ones I can find to purchase are much larger in size but weight is the same. I can see the outline of the old weights on my wheel so I was just gonna eyeball it and try to center the new weights in the same spot

>>17315638
I wouldnt recommend it but it's your life. Assuming you mean a 600 super sport.
If you are new to the throttle it's pretty easy to fuck up the clutch and end up on the floor.

Alternatives that are still pretty fun and fast are 650yzf or cbr500r

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>>17316356
Take a moment and observe the formatting difference between my posts and your complaining.
I think you're looking for a fight, mate. Not trying to educate.

>>17316388
Yeah sure, I mean they only weigh like 10 kgs each, spin rapidly and are your only contact patch with the ground. What could go wrong? Just eyeball it.

>>17316067
Aside from that horrible tail chop I don't mind it either, pretty much your standard street fighter conversion.

>>17316400
>10kg wheels on the outside of your tires

what bike do you ride?

>>17316398
I noticed you keep posting chinese cartoons and didn't even address the issue we're discussing so I can only assume you are either brain-damaged, autistic or 13 years old.
You are wrong, this is a fact. Yes, the CBR500R, CB500F and CB500X are part of the CB series and have a displacement of around 500cc. This does not make them CB 500s, as that is the name of two specific models. You also listed the CMX 500 which is obviously not part of the CB series.

>>17315638
I have a yzf600R and have had no problems with it

>>17316411
I couldn't find data so I eyeballed it.

>>17316388
front or rear? cant you jack up the wheel and balance it properly yourself?

>>17316388
You'll be fine.

>>17316400
>>17316426
thanks for the input mates

>>17316423
rear, and to be honest I don't know how, and I don't have a balancer...

>>17316453
You could always just get a friend to sit on the the bike and balance it, it´s what I did.

>>17316453
jack it up, take off the chain so it can spin freely, let it spin until the heaviest part is centering itself at the bottom, put weight on the opposite side until it will spin without stopping at a specific point.

thats the gist of it.

>>17316466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2AuivYzaBs

for visualization

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new bike :)

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sv650 or fz07 for first bike?

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>>17316511
GS 500

>>17316499
>rusty aftermarket china can

good job

>>17316466
>>17316479
So the wheel will spin freely enough while mounted to the bike (and chain off) for this? Tbh senpai I'm a pretty lazy dude so I'll roll with eyeballing unless the ride feels abnormal, then I'll give this a shot. I appreciate the help

>>17316523
its a cut yoshimura trs, and the rust is cause I was blastin it with wd40 trying to get it off

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going to pick up a yzf r125 for £1500, its had an engine swap 5k miles ago with 19k on the dials with all receipts present.
I'm struggling to think clearly as I've been no bike for a few years, good deal or nah?

>>17316528
if you move the chain to the side it will spin on its bearings which should be even smoother than on the balancer that guy uses.

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>>17316414
Here's something different, then.
Because I was assuming the basic rules of reading comprehension applied, namely that nonsequitor arguments are to be disregarded.

The conversation has never been about you. Neither the cb series, me, anime tiddies, or whatever other distraction you've become subject to. It's about getting this cat up to speed as quickly as possible. Preferably with as great variety as is possible so he/she can choose the bike that fits best.
Projecting pathological vanity onto me isn't going to do much for them. Recommending a workable plan of action, however, can convert an impulse buy into a lifestyle.

>>17316516
Would prefer something new

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>>17316511
sv650

>>17316581
Calm down bruh, I only pointed out a simple mistake you made. No need to get all defensive.

>>17316588
>first bike
>new
Don't do this.

>>17316629
>Don't do this.

I always hear sheeple nobikes and or poorfags say this.

>>17316636
Maybe because poor people know the value of money. Protip: If you make financial decisions like "I'll buy a new bike as my first one!", you won't not be poor for long.
It's just common sense, the odds of crashing or at least dropping your first bike are astronomical. Sure, if you're loaded it might not be a big deal but it's still a waste of money that you could have used to buy a hooker for a night.

>>17316636

You're going to drop it a few times and bang it up, why not buy used first and beat the hell out of it before you buy new?

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>>17316624
Still projecting, I assure you. Brevity does not equal temper, neither verboseness to excitement.
Also, black people are taught early to put it away proper. Don't blame me for ending your pissing contest.

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>>17316636
Don't listen to the nobike poorfags, friend. A new bike will stay with you, will totally be your own. Don't forget to finance it through your friendly neighborhood merchant, I'm sure he can make you a great offer hehehehe...

>>17316414
>this autism
>calling anyone else autistic

>>17316667
Come on man, it's embarassing if you keep samefagging. The fact that you have to resort to overly verbose answers and greentext without any actual substance while still avoiding the topic at hand clearly shows who the winner is in this discussion.

>>17316676
I didn't ask you to prove you have autism by making the most blatantly terrible samefag accusation in the history of 4chan dude.

That you are arguing with a faggot does not change the fact nobody fucking cares.

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>>17316694
He's right. I've been balls deep in logarithms since reimu.

>>17316015
>300s are for beginners

some people want moto2/moto3 bikes for honing their skills on tighter tracks. small engine, premium motorcycle.

some people also want to just ride those around because somewhere around 400-500cc puts you squarely in "faster than most cars" territory

this "small engine cheap euro beginner bike, LITER ONLY REAL MAN BIKE, ONLY REAL MAN BUY LITER" mindset is killing the motorcycle market (and my ability to have a good fun bike without liter insurance rates)

once 600s go kaput it's too late

>>17316499
Welcome to the gixxer life

>>17316645
>buy a bike with minimal fairings
>fixing body damage is actually ez

you can buy a higher end bike with a questionable service history on CL for $4000 ("Ninja 650 in a color never offered not laid down i swear only 30k miles PS stop asking about valve checks i don't know what those are) or you can buy a dealer-serviced lower end bike from the fucking dealer for $5000

given that a bad part on a bike can kill you, what do you pick?

>>17316511
how about you test ride them instead of asking us

the best beginner bike is the one you'll actually ride. some people get new liters and turn out shit riders even if they live because they never ride for fear of the power, the discomfort, and crashing their garage queen. some people get liters and ride the shit out of them and turn out to be pretty good because they wanted to ride, rode every day, and worked on improving their riding skills while having the maturity to not go WOT on corner exit or try to drag knee just yet.

>>17316645
>>17316645

>Poor people value money more

Incorrect, they waste money and get mad at people who have more skills and get paid more

>Buy a hooker

Settle down

>Talking about being rich and dumb

Sort your finances out mate. I'm not the other poster but people like you are frustrating. A brand new bike for a learner isn't that expensive. If your envious of someone being able to afford one you should start saving more money, upskill, get a better job.

>Lose money if you get rekt

What is insurance? My premium didn't even go up when my brand new cbr1000rr got rekr within 4 weeks of owning it (not my fault).

Without people buying brand new there wouldn't even be motorcycle companies.. but feel free to waste your money on energy drinks and alcohol and stay mad when you see people on new bikes

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I'm so fucking sick of people asking this before they even see me or the bike I'm selling in person. Of course I list the bike slightly higher than I expect to get but I'm not haggling with some stranger over the phone.

>huur im a shit rider so ill project my inabilities onto others
>youre gonna drop it because im an uncoordinated fuck and dropped mine
>youre gonna be afraid to ride it properly because im a little pussy
>i refuse to believe anyone could possibly be better than me. especially stupid people that buy new bikes

>>17316821
if you're asking 4chan for bike advice you probably are a shit rider and a littke pussy desu senpai

>>17316819
Lol every time I sell a bike this happens. Or they offer to swap some shitbox car with little cash.
Best way to respond is sending a link to a 1,000$ 250 and say it's better suited to them

>>17316209
not really. Dual sports have meme tax when buying used and hardly depreciate at all after the first 2 years because the designs haven't changed in decades. Good ones can almost never be had for under $2500.
Used sport bikes and other street bikes can be had for that price all the time.
Enduros can sometimes be cheap at first but the good ones are expensive to maintain.

>>17316827
Not him, but I literally learnt to ride from dbt. I asked advice, got shown twist of the wrist. Listened for 2 days. Went and brought a bike without ever riding in my life. Practised on the guys street for 10 minutes, rode home on the freeway. 7 bikes and 5 years later and I've still never crashed.

>>17316819

my advice, don't even bother messing with people like this. I don't know what bike you are trying to sell but don't take this shit from people. I had my bonneville up for sale and got tons of "whats your lowest price, trade for a lawnmower, 3k less than asking" etc. Just wait for someone who can text and write sentences coherently at the very least if you can, screen these fucks. this will help you weed out who is actually serious about seeing the bike and making a deal while also keeping you free of the frustration of selling a bike privately. it may take a little more time, but it will make the sale much easier.

>>17316830
usually i just tell them list price or don't respond at all. I'm selling several bikes now and the sport bike is attracting way more retards trying to lowball, haggle, and trade shitboxes than any of the others have.

>>17316838
>but I literally learnt to ride from dbt
Surprised you aren´t dead

>>17316838
>still never crashed

your time will come

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>>17316768
its so comfy

>>17316841
Years ago I sold a chopper (I own a gsxr now so don't get mad). I had guys offer me shotguns, drugs and all kinds of weird shit (I live in NZ where guns are illegal without licence).
>>17316842
Actually got solid advice

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Why buy new when all the good bikes are out of production?

The new ones are butt ugly and cost hundreds to convert to a reasonable style with new quality lights and gauges. Don't meme on me, you can do non-round headlights and make it look good, but honda can't.

>>17316856
oh yeah I have had guns offered too but I'm in a rural area of the US so pretty much everyone has them.

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>>17316755
I do feel you, when "gofass" is not the object of this exercise. (Although I'm not inclined to go back and check)
Besides the standard question being "do I get a 600," I personally push 300's for disposability. An r3 or cbr300r can be found relatively cheaply, it's new enough to keep the rider from getting stranded; and they're only pseudo-specialized. The milder body position and broad powerband (in the cbr at least) let a newer rider work up to the pace they want---but the smaller engine makes it easier to save from dumb mistakes.

I personally ran a 250 while in poverty, and got the 500 now it's at less risk of getting destroyed. Paid 900 usd to gamble, invest 5k for 100,000 mile use.

Enlighten me, please. What's moto2/moto3 mean? League divisions by size?

>>17316862
Revolting
>>17316844
I know, it does play around in my mind. Hope it's a slow crash and I have my GoPro on to make more YouTube $$$

>>17316862
>they aren't made they way I like them so they must be bad
>someone else buying this thing I don't like is a problem
>muh opinion

neck urself, my dude

>>17316856
>Actually got solid advice
Well glad it worked out for you, just never ask what bike you should buy here.

>>17316862
I don't need to meme on you when you've memed yourself

>>17312981
what is with the tiny braking ?
I assume its just to deal with bumps
>>17314918
>tfw road paint is slippery

>>17316893
Sensor is probably calibrated like shit so it reads the lever bouncing where it isn't actually engaging.

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>>17316881
>Want a standard 600cc, brand new
>get this

sorry man i have too much dignity to be seen on robot elvis

>>17316870
>I would never be interested in doing a swap. I don't know why but I don't trust it. Some of the swaps seem to good to be true. I always wondered who would accept a swap until my old retarded room mate swapped his shitbox for a gun, Xbox, pitbike and bunch of electronics. Turned out they were all stolen and they got confiscated. I still lol over his stupidity.

>>17316884
>Not just getting what's right for you
>Not testing bikes yourself
I've got a 2017 gsxr750 atm and couldn't be happier

>>17316914
>2017 gsxr750
aren't they due for a refresh, unless you like the older model it'd suck to have a new model come out right after you buy one

Still really really torn on what bike to buy.

I've been looking at:

WR250X

FZ07

CB500X

Which would you buy?

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>>17316904
What 3rd world country do you get 10 year old bikes brand new in

Not enough dignity to not cry like a baby on the internet apparently, by the way.

>>17316930
Personally I would go with the fz07

>>17316934
They look pretty much the same

Way too far over the edge threshhold with disgusting exhausts that look like trails of slime flying out of the radiator

>>17316925
Haven't changed since 2011. It's light, quick (I owned 2 different 1000cc+ before it but this is the perfect useable power). Small like a 600 but has much better torque. I got the gp blue and love the way it looks. Downsides is no traction control abs or quickshifter like most newer bikes but for the price it was a steal.

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>>17316804
Dude, people who value money value money more. Being poor is a consequence of circumstance.
The phenomenon you're confusing for "wasting money" is lack of financial education. We spend it all because we have no means with which to invest.
Alternately, the costs associated with poverty suck up the last couple cents. Can't stop using the high interest card because you don't make enough for gas at end of month, etc.

Same actually applies to "upskill." cant take night classes if you work 60hrs a week to survive.

By the way, we try to teach our children to value people instead, since we can't pay to make problems disappear. Something something Jesus, something something camels.

>>17316945
honestly one of the best liveries in recent times pham; nice choice

>>17316944
Yes but if regular bikes looked good how would they move sportbikes out of the showroom?

Most sportbike buyers just want something that looks good when they're not riding it.

>>17316946
You are everything that is wrong with the poor.
>Blames others
>Blames circumstances
>Blames society

>Thinks he values money more
>Thinks he values family more
>Thinks he is doing the right thing by working 60+ hours for shitpay instead of just gaining a skill and working 40hours for a much better outcome.

Where do you live? What job do you have? What skill (work based) do you have? What commitments do you have (children etc). I was once like you. Give me 5 minutes and I'll make your life 1000x better.

>>17316946
>Poor people value family more
Top kek. Where is the majority of domestic/child abuse

>>17316946
Can I bet you $100 you've consumed marijuana in the past 5 days. I'll bet $50 you've had a toke in the past 24 hours even

>>17316981
not him but i smoke weed every day and make 90k a year in sales

>>17316930
i wouldn't buy any of those bikes, but the FZ09 is probably the best of them

>>17316983
Does your dad also work at Nintendo?

>>17316961
That sure explains why nakeds have grown so much in market share in the last decade.