[D a i l y - B i k e - T h r e a d] - /dbt/

First for Honda a best

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>>17201442
No Ural a best

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No, honda a definitely best

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>>17201446
>I violence
Someone's a fan of Sledge Hammer, noice

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10nth for Onsa an best!

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>>17201482
I agree

>>17201492
Honoka is the best bik-on

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>>17201482
ayy other cb400 anon, whats going on m8?

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>>17201500
Lookin at pics of bikes on the internet. You ever think about a CB1300SF?

>>17201521
What's the purpose of those?

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>>17201446
Sidecars a shit though.

>>17201539
A big bike that's hard to tour on, a bit heavy for low speed work and a small range I guess....Looks nice though.

I cant decide what to get dbt

Either I wanna get a classic motorcycle, like XS 650, CB 750 or similar (and keep it stock), or I wanna get your run of the mill 600cc bike.
In that case, which is best ?? Suzuki SV650, Kawasaki ER6 or the Yamaha XJ6 ?

Beginner to intermediate rider

>>17201560
SV650 is the best

You can track it, you can daily it. Should be very cheap

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>>17201541
Fuck you nugger

i would like to upgrade (aesthetics) to a Ural retro or a CJ750 for that real dank BMW R71 look

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Honda

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>>17201587
Watch your profanities.

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Honda!

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>>17201592
I'm sorry mane

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>>17201601
All good.

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Honda!

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African biker cops, lads.

>>17201620
Where do I put the bribe to get out of his false claim?

>>17201638
>false claim

I literally have no license

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>>17201521
id rather get a 600 or something, i only bought a cb400sf because its pretty much the best lams bike

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>>17201620
>meanwhile in australia

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/6033309005.html

I think I'm going to check this out. Any other issues with a bike sliding I should look for?

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Chucked a few whoolies fer me mum on the way to the eatery. She hates me doing them, because I might tree myself, but still likes to see me doing one or two.

>What does she me by this, lads?

>>17201699
>jacksonville
fred pls

>>17201759
i fukt ur mom fagget

>>17201759
Nice gloves. Do you have flip flops on too

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alrite boys here representing shit bike riders world wide.
First session in 5 min, lets see how it goes this time.

>>17201677
>Cb400
>best lams
LMAO

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>>17201785
Got a better idea?

>>17201780

Which of those shit bikes is your shit bike?
Why are they all road bikes as well?

>>17201780
>was about to say dat ass
>realize it's a dude

>>17201813
>yfw this happened to me
>one of my exes(f) was jealous of my(m) butt

what bike should i get if i want women to like me

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>>17201977
>a truck of peace gets you 72 virgins.
>mostly virgins ride bikes
???

>>17201977
what ever you get make sure its over 600ccz no bitch wants a sub600 cuck

>>17201977
A fixie

>>17201982
>599cc
Will the girls know I am a displacelet?

>>17201991
Girls don't even know what a cc is

>>17201991
women can feel it bro

>>17201759
Thats a nice tote on your arm honey

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>>17201982
>get ninja 650
>steal some GSXR sissy's girl

solid plan y/n?

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women dont like motorcycles

young girls like them though

>>17202050
once she sees how much slower it is she'll cuck you

>>17202063
"Women" don't exist. They're just more socially conservative girls.

>oh, you see, this one goes to church, hates dangerous things, still listens to her parents, and doesn't talk as much. she's a woman. not a little girl.

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>>17202063
>young girls like them though
how young?

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Citroen a best 2bh

>>17202074
like 20

>>17202097
too old

>>17202097
nice

>>17202103
this when you said young i was thinking about 14 to 16

>>17202097
Who let you out of the milfista thread?

>>17201560
Get a modern, COMMON (better aftermarket support) motorcycle first. Old shit is fun as a second bike if you are or want to become a mechanic.

>>17201699
If you don't see any damage beyond what's described it's wildly unlikely anything more got hurt. That's very minor rashing.

>>17202147
Even if it's common, if it's old the aftermarket will have all sold out because it's normally bike specific and ceases production when the bike does. His bike should still be in production, or a bike with largely compatible parts should be.

If it isn't, you won't even be able to find a fucking luggage rack unless someone is trying to unload their used givi monokey system so they can make a quick $500 (worth more off the bike, you know). If it is, fuck man you can get soft bag racks for like fifty bucks.

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>>17202073
>current year + 2
>women
>socially conservative ever

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should i go up in jet?
xr125 with a new more opened up exhasut, intake is stock

>>17202257
yes, go up on both main and pilot at least one size, possibly two or 3 on the main

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>>17201977
it's a bike man... by class inheritance alone you get +5 base attraction

>>17202265
i went from a 95 to a 100 main, and its still grey, only had a pic from before

>>17202257
were you riding WOT before taking the picture?

>>17202271
not untill you prestige in something
base class requires a 7 CHA

>>17202298
yes i wrote WOT and just normal for quite long time, and i rememberd i should prob check my plug

>>17202306
rode*

>>17202306
>yes i wrote
>WOT
>and just normal for quite long time

so was it WOT or "just normal"?

If you were riding WOT before inspecting the spark plug then you need bigger main jet for sure.

If going with bigger and bigger main jet seems to do nothing then check fuel filter/fuel cock.

>>17202329
like commuting around the city, and outside, so riding easy and doing WOT outside the city, thats what i ment
ill try a 105 jet, how many KM would u recomend me driving before checking the plug again?

>>17202301
>He doesn't spec for 10 CHA at the start

>>17201482
How do you keep your headers so clean?? I went through a few wet pots on the road from maintenance on fire hydrants and now I have burnt in water spots that I can't get rid of. I spent 2 hours alternating scrubbing with simichrome polish and neverdull with no luck...

>>17202481
>not rolling stats
but ye, you need negative cha or the twink racial trait

New rider here, everyone keeps trying to sell me a 300-600 but I rode my friends ZX10R and didn't have any problems handling it, just took it slowly and didn't get the big deal where everyone is like "you'll kill yourself lmao"

Is there any good reason not to jump straight to a 1000 considering I felt comfy on my friends? I mean that's what I'm going to eventually work my way up to anyway and it seems kinda stupid to buy weaker bikes I'll end up never riding once I get to 1000cc's

>>17202522

All it takes is that slip or poor decision to give it a little more gas than you should around a corner or something, and you're going to eat shit.

A smaller bike is more forgiving.

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Wew everything went fine and I'm home.

>dear diary

On the last trackday I had an electric failure that left me stranded on the way home and before that I highsided, so I was a bit spooked today.

First session was a bit odd, the tires moved around a lot until the last 5 minutes or so. I was wondering if my suspension was too hard or my pressures too low (2.05 front and 1.9 rear) but they improved with time. By the end of the 2nd session the tires were at 2.4 and 2.15 hot, probably I can lower the front pressure next time, but the bike behaves like absolute shit until the tires warm up. Conti Race Attack Comps for those wondering, I'd give them 7/10. They're cheap.

Second and third session were neat. Did some overtakes on the brakes with the bike all over the place and managed to improve my lines in some places. No dragging pegs this time though. Definitely not PR pace, but a good experience.

By the end of the 3rd session I ran out of pad material on a caliper and was way too tired, my fitness is bad and I feel bad. Drank like 5L of water during a 4h period, wew.

Also rode my buddies 2008 fireblade again and my old CBR600F definitely belongs in a museum. The suspension and the brakes and the everything are a gazillion years better. My bike feels like steering the titanic afterwards.

>>17201803
Mine's the old CBR, second from the left.

>>17201813
I try to behave at those events but someone always bring some female cousin or w/e with 10/10 ass and I'm like "bruh don't stare" but it's tough at times. There was this probably 18 y/o related to some buddies wife eyeing me from time to time. I did nothing. Racers don't need girlfriends(TM).

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>>17202284
Yeah that definitely looks lean.

>>17202522
Oh wow dude youre one of the rare people that are really good at riding even though you don't have much experience. Yeah man get the 1000cc bike i can tell youre a really good rider dude you won't crash or anything you retarded mother fucker have some fucking patience. Go ahead and get a big bike. Kill yourself.

>>17201435
Alri lads, this paycheck's going for my motorbike driving license. I have 2000 euros to spend for a motorcycle

I live in Croatia, so strong sports bikes are not really viable. I live in a cramped town where you can't reach third gear while driving a car, considering how many traffic lights there are. It's the definition of "city traffic"
Also, the infrastructure is not stellar, the streets are proper Mediterranean, so a lot of one directions, narrow streets and such...

I was thinking something in the lines of Aprilia RS125. Is it good? I'll ride anything that isn't a fucking scooter, no matter if it's a T-max or a Burgman. Scooters are not my thing

Bottom line:
- up to 600cc (ideally 250cc, or even 125cc)
- The above leading to lower fuel consumption
- Not a tank-bike (but not a small one either since I'm 6'1), since if you want to park a car and go downtown, you need to park in the periphery and walk 10 minutes to reach the fucking old town

>>17202538
RS125 IS NOT FOR COMMUTING
STOP THINKING YOU CAN EXPECT A RACE BIKE TO TAKE DAY TO DAY ABUSE

get a tw200 or similar, will be fun on sand

>>17202538
Honestly, a KLR650. It`s not fast enough for you to burn up all your gears. It has water cooling. Not powerful enough to wheelie yourself to death. Easy to work on. Cheap. Reliable.

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Post `em

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Day three of rain. Forecast for the next 7 days is thunderstorms.

Fuck.

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>>17201560

S2 or 4R

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>>17202522
stop trolling you'll kill yourself lmao do you even google

>>17202538
>Aprilia RS125
High maintenance, uncomfortable race replica and very fuel-thirsty two stroke. Definitely not what you're looking for.

Do they have the whole A1/A2/A license bullshit in Croatia?

You can buy any middle weight naked bike (FZ6, Z800, CB500F...) and restrict it, although expect to pay about 400-500€ to get it restricted (parts + labour + paperwork).

You could also get any bike below the A2 threshold (ninja 300, XT660, CBF250, CB250) and have fun with it. Some smaller bikes are a lot of fun.

If you have only A1, get the japanese 125 you like the most, it doesn't really matter as long as it's in good shape.


>no yamalube tent

>>17202563
buy a cover anon, it's like $20

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>>17202553

>>17202532
>>17202535
>>17202565
Suck a dick

>>17202526
Thanks for a real answer, should I try a 600 or just go smaller? I'm a poorfag so whatever I get is basically one and done

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>>17202553

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>>17202569

I've got a large shop and a two car garage to park it in but too many "projects" on the go inside them. Rain won't hurt it none.

>>17202551
>Honestly, a KLR650
I'm not interested much in speed but agility and easiness to manage/cheap parts. Living here is a still a suffering when you're a bike owner (unless you own a Vespa).
And the aforementioned also doesn't allow me to drive the KLR, or what I wanted, the KLE, since I can only get the A2 license
Can't find a KLR beneath the golden 35kW, and I asked about these particular bikes in my local PD. They said I need an A license

Blockades are expensive, and the following checks and registration bring the cost up to 600 euros (don't laugh, it's a lot here, on top of buying a used bike)

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>>17202553

>>17202601
>DCT

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TW200 a cute

>>17202601
Holy shit just how fucking fat is that GS?

>>17202595

Serious question here as I saw a post on another forum about a guy wanting to buy an HD Street 500 because of some kind of "L" license or some shit in Britain.

Do you get pulled over enough that this is a problem at all? Half of the things rode around here don't have valid plates nor do a good deal of the riders even have a motorcycle license. In my small circle I can think of a handful of bikes that have expired plates on them. Can you not just ride whatever? The police here in western Canada stop maybe 1 out of 10,000 bikes if that and that's if the bike is dumb enough to stop for them given the RC's have a strict no chase policy for two wheelers.

>>17202602
>Having cold fingers from sitting in traffic, holding the clutch in winter

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>>17202601
chain looks a tad tight m8

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Spent an hour at the vet looking after cat and out the window at a busy 6-lane. Saw about two dozen motorcycles speed by and like 23/24 were black, what the fuck is up with that? Full disclosure mine is black also but I got it fourth hand.

>>17202565
What about the Ninja 250? One guy wanted to sell me a 2008. Ninja 250 with 26 thousand kilometers for 2700 euros. Is that reasonable?

Also, the importing/exporting regulations bumped to EU levels so they've effectively discouraged importing used vehicles. Expect to pay additional 2000 euros on tonnage, emission and "age" parameters while buying a 4500 euro diesel vehicle. For fuck sake

So if I was to buy a 1500 euros bike in Germany, importing and registering it here would cost me additional 700 euros. This discouragement allow the local "used vehicles" mob to up their prices, so everyone is looking to skin everyone. Unless you can afford to go to a car salon and buy a brand new one

>>17202610
It holds almost twice as much fuel as the Twin.

>>17202614
Thanks, I checked it a few weeks ago and the play was spot on but I'll look again.

>>17202611
They're pulling anyone with a 4 stroke bike here, especially if it's a racer. The fines are draconic if they find out you're one BHP above your license, especially if you're young. I am completely serious. And especially now, since it's the season, police patrols and checks have become more frequent. Coincidentally, this is the best time to ride a bike...

>>17202612
>he says, while having factory barkbusters and heated grips on his spotless "Adventure bike"
t'was real cold at the coffee shop, innit?

>>17202608
That'd be cool pic if not for the fact every phone now decides all pics should be landscape.

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>>17202635
I use it as a commuter-tourer.

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>>17202553
My little brother.

>>17202595
http://a2bikes.co.uk/browse?categoryFilters=10
Don`t know if this is right for you area.
I would look for a Duel Sport Thumper. They are fairly good in slow city work as long as you don`t over heat them by standing around.

>>17202657
Your rear wheel might be a little less than circular.

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>>17201780
why are some lights taped?

>>17202634

Do they chase bikes there or something? Here it's considered excessive force to initiate a chase with a bike as the bike can lose control very easily. If they don't chase what's to stop you from putting your insured plate in your garage throwing on a plate from a scrapped bike so they can't snag your address if they run it?

Give em a pip pip cheerio and go WOT.

>>17202662
>to many reverse wheelies
That and I used my helmet camera to take the picture, it has a bit of a fish eye look in all my photos.

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>>17202617
stylistically black is a safe choice. It looks good on basically anything and it's hard for a manufacturer to fuck up an all black scheme.

on the other hand really nice liveries are hard to do well and can easily become tacky looking

>>17202681
>tying the walkers legs
seems like a design flaw

>>17202617
What country are you in? Is it really that hard to secure this shit properly. It looks like a kaffir fit it.

>>17202696
it's restricted to an A1 license

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>>17202666
To avoid glass from lights/mirrors being all over the track when you crash. Some organizers require you to do it. Some sanctioned races also require your race fairings to have a belly-pan integrated into the fairings to catch oil if it leaks, but that's racing regulations which is something else.

These organizers in particular don't require taping, but some guys tape it anyway. Some go full-on racer fuccboi and remove the mirrors and plate. I tape my mirrors and speedo so as to not look.

>>17202618
The Ninja 250 is pretty neat, although that one is expensive for the Spanish market... but maybe Croatia is different. See if you can find some other Ninja 250s around the country for comparison. The Ninja is kinda expensive, naked 250s are usually cheaper, although they don't have the sportsbike look/factor. The CB250 is usually plentiful, very comfy and lots of fun to ride. If you can find one well taken care of it's usually a good buy.

>>17202672
>>17202657
I'll check out this website, but as you said, these might not be available on our market. Some of the bikes you're mentioning here are completely alien to me. I've never seen a post 80es CB500 here. People used to drive the '79 one back in the day but that's it. The most "representative" Croatian choice for a naked bike is the Kawasaki ER5 or Honda CB600F

>>17202672
I've never seen a chase happen here, at least not in my region. It's a timid area, really. My neighbour owns a BMW S1000 (I think) and he just covers it up. No one has stolen it ever

>wanted to go trail riding today
>it's 1:11 and I still haven't left the house because my friend is not ready
>the owner of the riding facility didn't answer his phone and I'm not sure he's even in business still

>>17202736
This is the biggest website for used vehicles, among other things. So I'll refer to it when searching.
Here's what I've found:
http://www.njuskalo.hr/cestovni-motori/honda-cb-500-oglas-22529524

A 2000. Honda CB500 with 56 thousand kilometers (too much, no?) on it. The ad says "Rear tire at 70%, front is new. Start and ride condition". Still above the 35kW though
Nothing on the CB250

>>17202713
Ethernet/cable TV outlet, or something?
We have that in Croatia

Why can't I ever find an honest review?
They're all glowing reviews globbing praise all over the bike and manufacturer regardless of the actual quality of the bike

And then there's a bunch of websites that copy the press write up verbatim and call it a """""review"""""

>>17202522
Not worth it. Get a 600 or a 650. It's the things other than the power that'll kill you like the really good brakes and the commited riding position that makes it easy to target fixate and get scared.

Whisky throttle as they call it is not that hard to avoid

>>17202790
Because if you give bad reviews, the manufacturer won't let you use there machines

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>>17202759
That exhaust looks like it has seen better days but the bike overall looks okay. That CB500 can probably still go until you get tired of it and then some. That bike here wouldn't sell for more than 1500€, Croatian prices seem horrifying.

You can always:

Memorize this whole thing and try to check the bike as thoroughly as you can: http://www.clarity.net/adam/buying-bike.html
Ask the owner maintenance history (when was the oil, tires, filters, pads last changed)

If some consumables are worn or need replacing that's usually easy to do it yourself. If the bikes has other problems (bent forks/bars, too much crash damage, rust all over the place, oil leaks) then you're looking at more complicated fixes.

>Still above the 35kW though
:(

>>17202804
So where can I find reviews that aren't bullshit

>>17202759
I can`t read Croat, so bare with me.
http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/kawasaki-klr-600-moze-zamjena-oglas-19770732
>Old KLR might be good hard to say

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-600-cm3-oglas-18614065
>Some of the numbers are missing, I don`t know if it has all paper work

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-600-oglas-22513629
>This is the best I have seen so far

>>17202807
Alright then
What about this?
http://www.njuskalo.hr/cestovni-motori/yamaha-xj-550-550-cm3-oglas-22305453

A Yamaxa XJ550. It just says "Serviced. New tires". That's it

>>17202811
what bike
there's a good possibility an anon owns one

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>>17202790
I think out of the big magazines and review sites the "shootouts" tend to be the best reviews and the most honest since the reviewers usually won't say blatantly negative things that piss off manufacturers in any reviews, but here at least you can figure out where the bikes stack up against each other, and read between the lines to figure out what's best for you.

>>17202820
http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-oglas-20871081
>Another rnice looking XT

http://www.njuskalo.hr/cestovni-motori/yamaha-xj-600-599-cm3-oglas-20694515

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/suzuki-dr-350-350-cm3-oglas-12341002
>If I read it right this one may not be on the road

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/kawasaki-kle-499-cm3-oglas-21583448
>KLE 500 but it has 80k Kilos

>>17202820
>http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-600-oglas-22513629
This one looks solid. The KLR (which they've told me I can't drive with A2 but I see this one has 29kW lmao) says "OK condition"...
The XT600 (the second ad you posted) says it requires an A license beneath. They don't add that for no apparent reason, but it's not over 35kW. Did he by any chance mod it or something? I wouldn't want to buy a motorbike and have it restricted because it goes one kW above my license (which will cost the same as if I restricted a 60kW bike to the required 35kW. It's absurd)

What's more absurd, is that I could find an old beast of a motorcycle. Not over 70kW (so I can restrict it), and it will be cheaper than the ones for my category. But add the restricting and registration cost and you're evening out

If only I knew a guy who knew a guy

>>17202846
Do they test it? Can you just lie and show some specs online the show it conforms?

>>17202834
I'm gonna get my butt fucked if I bring it up again, it's a shitbike that everyone here is vitriolically opposed to so I can't bring it up.

>>17202854
They test it. It's called "atest". You bring your vehicle. They confirm its specifications and move it along. My neighbour "failed" because he missed a side mirror
Welcome to the EU

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>>17202846
>>17202854
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xt600e%2001.htm
>Max Power: 45hp / 32.8kW @ 6500prm

I had a XT-350 for my first real bike.

there are some fields near to me people go hooning about on. Its in-between a motorway and an industrial estate, I've got no Idea who owns the land, how you get in and I've found no reference to it online. Its obviously not illegal but also not official in any regard. I'll need to investigate when I get my DS

>>17202845
If not an Aprilia, what about other 2 stroke "racers" like Cagiva or Honda NSR? I have a really solid opportunity to get a 1996. NSR125 for 750 euros. The owner serviced it regularly, kept it covered and was the only owner

>>17202872
http://a2bikes.co.uk/bike/yamaha-xt600e
Wow, that sounds shit. Maybe ask the guy if he has done any work on it.

>>17202888
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSR125
>"they ceased production in 2001"

Most 2 stroke fast bike got killed off years ago, main problem with them now days is parts availability.

>>17202895
>I will never EVER be able to get my dream bike, the Norton Commando 961

>>17202858
sounds like a crock of shit
are you the scrambler guy?

>>17202926
No I'm the cb500f guy. I just want to read reviews to get hyped. Not because I'm uncertain about the bike.

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>/fa/ here

would this make a good first bike?

https://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/6091931665.html

>>17202937
>fa
Faggot?

>>17202937
yes buy it now

>>17202937
>I thought this would be a cool bike, it is a cool bike I just don't have the know how to get it running well, and I have too many other projects!!!
Cafe Racers in a Nutshell

>>17202937
>Americans pay dirt for motorbikes while we pay in kidney transplants
This bike would fetch at least 3500 euros in Croatia. God fucking damn it. What is this fucking senseless equation. We earn less, we pay less. It should be simple

>>17202888
http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/honda-xl600r-600-cm3-oglas-22392253
>Kind of old

http://www.njuskalo.hr/cestovni-motori/honda-hornet-600-25kw-cb-600-oglas-22388158
>I think these are restricted

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-600-cm3-oglas-21114988
>Potrebna dozvola A kategorije
Needs A class?

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt600e-600-cm3-oglas-12064015
>29kW

http://www.njuskalo.hr/cestovni-motori/suzuki-gs-500-500-cm3-oglas-19867475
>Summoning GS500 Shitposter

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/honda-xl600r-reg-07-2017-oglas-20210016
>Old + many kms

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-550-550-cm3-oglas-12909235
>Old but looks ok

http://www.njuskalo.hr/enduro-cross-motori/yamaha-xt-600-e-oglas-21839296
>1999 + 60k Kilos

>>17202956
That GS500. Is 1900 euros a lot for a 2005. Suzuki? They are notoriously pricey here. BMW is the king of overblown prices, followed by Suzuki. These specific Suzukis usually go over 60k km, and he didn't even bother to write it down

>Needs A class?
Yes. A category license. 35kW and over

>>17202950
Is in SA it isn`t cheap either.
DL-1000 windscreen R2000 ($150/E137)
Toyota Land Crusier windscreen R1000 ($75/E70)

Front and Back Metzeler for my KLR650 R3300 ($250/E225)
4 tires for a Golf R2500 ($188/E171)

How can stuff for bikes be so expensive. They wanted R11000($822/E752) for a new radiator for my KLR650 and half that to patch two tiny holes.

>dreaming
>buy brand new 2017 lelter gsx-r
>next day in dream go "why the fuck did I buy this I don't even want it"
>call dealership and ask if they will do a refund
>"ok"
>give back bike and get money back
>wake up
what does it mean

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>>17202969
I can`t tell you, it is a type of motorcycle not sold here. We don`t have midsize beginner bikes really.

You start on a 125cc something or a 250cc. Then you either get a 600 or a litre 4cyl. Else like me you get a big ADV like a V-Strom, maybe if you have money you get a BMW ADV bike.

Scooters here are for women and poor folks.

>>17202984
That's the same price you'd pretty much pay in the states Bru

>>17202986
Don`t buy from a Stealership? Don`t buy an ugly bike?

>>17202932
well your bike a shit and buying new is a scam, gg m8

>>17203006
Difference is my Ronts are worth fuck all and I get too few of them to afford anything. I still have done the seals on my front shocks which are leaking all the oil out.

>>17202932
Why buy a beginner bike new, when there are enough secound hands ones to give one out with every Happy Meal in the US?

Why pay so much for comparatively so little, the moment you ride out the Dealership something like 20% of the value is gone instantly.

Why fuck yourself in the Butt with the Credit Jew for a beginner bike you will get bored of before you have paid it off?

>>17201435

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvIjW4aXerA

Fat guy bike recommendations.


I'm 6'2" 300lbs (188cm 136kg) and i can't find a bike i don't look absolutely ridiculous on.

What should I look in to?

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Why is it always super nice when I have to work and shitty when I'm off work. She just sitting there like fuck that slow ass work truck come ride me

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>>17203167

>>17203175

No thanks, I don't need to take your girl on my Schwinns handlebars.

>>17203183
but you do need to loose some weight chunk

>>17203167
any adv or sport touring bike would be a decent place to start

>>17203167
>i can't find a bike i don't look absolutely ridiculous on
That because you look ridiculous no matter what, ya tub of shit

>>17203190

I guess I'll just ride liter bikes and wonder why you manlets are so afraid of them.

>>17203194

Which ice cream tastes the best off your girls ass?

>>17203167
You should look into losing some weight anon.

>>17203193

Thank you.

Africa twin felt good, but I can't justify it, guess I will just lose some weight and go for something a bit more fun.

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>>17203216
why not?
i love mine, with your size and weight you should be able to muscle it around pretty easy too.
might also look at used ktm 990s and 1190s as well as the tiger 800's and 1200's

>>17203205
Please do so and promptly remove yourself from the gene pool

>>17203227

It just seemed too utilitarian and more of a torquey "putter" than a fun sunday ride or after work therapy.

>>17203229

It would be a small step up from my old FZ750.

I'm sorry life has treated you so poorly.

>>17203244
cc81 really liked his tiger 1050 and hes like 6'4 and its no slouch of a bike

>>17203261

I'll check it out.

Thanks for the discussion instead of the insults.

Hey /dbt/
I'm kind of in a conumdrum. I'm from Poortugal and turning 23 next week. I've never ridden before, but for the past few years i've been increasingly fond of the idea of riding. But i'm not if i'll be scared. There was as expo a while ago and I got to sit on a couple of bikes the brands had for show, and it felt pretty cool, but I'm not sure if I'll be afraid of it when it's fucking rumbling right next to my dick. I don't know people who ride either. Should I go for it? If Yes, do I get and A2 now or wait another year to get the full A right away?

>>17203325
Whatever u want faggot
Literally doesn't matter, learn on a 650 v-twin

>>17203325
It takes about 30 seconds for it to feel sort of normal to have the engine there. I'd get the A2 since you'll want a smaller bike to learn on anyways.

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Was hitting the twisties today.

>Come up to a crest, slow down to 10 over the limit.
>Get to top of crest, pickup waiting to pull out of his driveway on other side
>Speed up because he makes eye contact and don't want to keep him waiting
>Hit a few nice curves
>Pull into the cafe parking lot, take helmet off
>Old farmer looking dude walking up to me
>Hi, whats up?
>Blah blah 30 over infront of my driveway, I'll pull out infront of you next time
>Oh, I believe you're threatening me with a deadly weapon, you might want to reconsider
>Dude walks away mumbling

I guess next time I'll slow down to 20 under the limit and keep slowing down as I get closer to his driveway so I can waste more of his time. I bet he will love that.

>>17203325
Does portugal have that car license 125cc bike convalidation like spain?

>>17203325
I'd get the license now, buy something like a cheap GS 500 as first bike and upgrade after 2 years.

>>17202522
1000cc is really too much bike anyways. You won't get to really run one hard 99% of the time and so you're more likely to accidently power wheelie pulling out of a parking lot and kill yourself than anything else.

Go for a 650cc twin.

>>17203369
only at 25

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>>17202653
Hello fellow tri-color

>>17203030
I'm stepping up from a cb250 so this thing is gonna be like light speed to me anyway
I don't really see it as an investment either. More like fun and transportation.

>will probably be stuck with retarded EU regulations for a disgustingly long time after even after Brexit

If you're fat you have to get a Harley

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>Japanese spec F4is come with 69PS

>>17203502
Post sweet 125cc

>>17202522
You even get into its rev range?

You dont need a bike that will do 100mph in first when you realistically have no experience at all. Or get one, have fun looping it mid corner.

What do you fags pay for motorcycle insurance?

Mine is $72/year for a 99' KLR650. I got state minimum cause with comprehensive against theft and because its a $2000 shitbike it was actually free.

Evens I go to the bakery and quench my sugar cravings
Odds I eat potatoes and play Stalker

>>17203554
$900/year full coverage for a 2017 Husqvarna 701 Supermoto

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>>17203566
Macaroons here I come.

im going to look at a Husqvarna 610sm from 2000 tomorrow 13600 miles on it for 6600$
any thoughts?
too expensive?

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>>17203554
$400/yr for my africa twin
$27/yr for my dr650

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>>17203554
550/year for full coverage on a new fz09, 350/year for liability on a 2002 sv650.

This is when we laugh at Ontario.

>>17203581
Way way way to much

>>17203603
its a rare bike here in denmark.. 1 of 6, its the e start model aswell..

also its the only sumo i can find for sale

>>17203536
No everyone knows it's best to ride a bike that you can do your entire trip in one gear because shifting is a super hard expert technique reserved for professional racers that new riders shouldn't learn.

If you can't do an entire track day in 3rd gear you have to buy a more powerful bike.

>>17202538
I have an Aprilia RS125 two stroke from 2004.
My two cents: It's aesthetic as fuck, great to drive, love the two stroke sound, decent acceleration, not unreliable at all and not too difficult to work on. However, every 15k km they recommend reworking cilinder walls and changing piston. Won't be very expensive, but costs you a day to do.
I love it. The only reason you are goign to be driving 1:18 instead of anything more fuel efficient is because you are going to be driving aggresively and it's a thirsty rotax.

>>17203612
also engine was rebuild 1200 miles ago

>>17203585
>dr650
Okay so I'm not the only one paying pocket change for insurance. What makes these dualsports so cheap to insure?

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>>17203596
$800/year for 2004 WR450
$700/year for 2016 Beta XTrainer

Both street plated.

Onterrible life.

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>>17203708
god damn man, my plated WR was $1.89 a month

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>>17203720
6 years ago I was paying like $2500/year for a KLX250sf

>>17203748
What is car insurance like in comparison in your dystopian nightmare of a residence?

I pay 72$ a year for the motorcycle but like 800+ for my VW Jetta.

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>>17203508
>restricted exhaust
>throttle body restrictor plate
>low output cams
>restricted airbox (on the 954 they straight up closed off one side)
>oddly tall rear sprocket

At least I know why I see "Normal Machine" in listings all the time, since that means stock cuck bike. (hilarious seeing Japanese being typical and going "oh but modifying this bike to full export performance could hurt its reliability!) Also finally figured out why there's practically no banana seats, they discontinued the F4i there instead.

>>17202343
>like commuting around the city, and outside, so riding easy and doing WOT outside the city, thats what i ment

You should ride WOT and then inspect the spark plug.

After selecting main jet you start working with partial (like 2/3 or 3/4) throttle opening and you play with jet-needle (selecting different needle profile or changing its height).

Then you proceed to pilot jet.

>>17203794
that looks cruel and terrible

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>>17202343
http://www.jba.bc.ca/Bushmans%20Carb%20Tuning.html#TOP

Any recommendations for frame sliders? I want to pick up a nice sturdy set but don't want to end up with some cheaply built tin that won't protect shit.

>>17203858
90% of frame slider are pure shit and you are very-very likely will end with frame/engine mount damage in event of crash (if you go over 50-60km/h).

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Why don't frame sliders have really stiff springs in them to absorb more energy? Something like this

>>17203988
how bulky, expensive and heavy do you want them to be?

>>17201797
it starts with cbr250 and ends with rr, or it starts with rvf and ends with 400

>>17203995
Enough to save my even bulkier, expensiver, and heavier motorcycle

>>17203995
if it costs less than plastics and engine guards would people really care?

>>17202546
its a 2 stronk single cylinder. worst case it blows up and he puts all 3 engine parts back together. they're pretty reliable anyway, from what ive heard.

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>>17204007
Then get proper crash bars.

So do you guys just not risk using frame sliders at all. only drops I've ever had I wasn't moving so I feel like the risk to benefit is better, that way at least I don't scuff it up if it ever drops.

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>>17201435

Baby Duke 390 best learner bike

>>17204025
diff anon, but do crash bars stick out enough to protect fairings and what not?

>>17204041
That's what they're meant to do. Otherwise, what's the point of having heavy metal bars?

>>17202563
Pretty. What is it?

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>>17201620
Here's one kind of bike cop I saw in Bali

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>>17204041
generally yes, theyd be pretty pointless if they didnt.
the handlebars are still going to hit though

>>17204052
I just assumed they were designed to just protect the powertrain, not so much fairings and pegs.
>>17204066
not worried about my bars, just get some bar guards and I have folding levers already anyway.

Hello dbt, I am seeking advice on how to suspend the front of my GSXR 1000 while I am servicing the steering head bearing. I don't really have anything to hang ratchet straps from through the frame and my front stand wont work

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>>17204066
>theyd be pretty pointless if they didnt.
You take that back

Actually I agree, these stock crash bars are pretty meh for coverage. At least they protect the Engine

>>17204082
Remove fairing, get two used tires and put the bike on its side on the tires.

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>>17204083
i stand by my statement sir

>>17202589
600cc sportbike like the r6

>>17204088
I meant car tires

it's kind of ghetto-way but it works.

Also you gen try to jack the bike, but you may have to remove exhaust/headers.

>>17204105
yea i got a regular car jack. think im gonna try and find a way to get it on jackstands

>>17204148
be careful and don't try to catch it if it falls

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>>17204082
I just did pic related

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1-3 stare at my bank account and list of bike repairs I need to do and cry
4-6 play Stalker and drink until I pass out
7-9 play CS and drink until I rage quit
0 go to the gym
dubs ride KX through golden gate park

>>17204033
I don't because I could buy like an entire set of bodywork for the same money on my bike somehow.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/6131059565.html

thoughts dbt?

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my first MSF class is tomorrow and I am nervous what do

>>17204219
>play cs
what rank you scrub

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>>17204219
your 701 is fueling my sickness, and now i might end up with a second XRR

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>>17202506
I use "Yoshimura Stain Magic", get it off ebay. Put some paste on a thin rag, wrap it half around the pipe and polish away.
>>17204000
Never rode a RVF400 (not that it's lams anyway) but the 250 is s l o w .

>>17204219
are you doing anything with the bottom end or just a big bore and new valves?

>>17204348
He's talking about the mini fireblade, not the regular cbr250.

>>17204373
I no. No one actually *rides* a MC22 for a reason.

>>17204167
fug, nice. saved pic for reference.

>>17204219
attn moab meetup cru: did you guys ride dirt most of the way from wherever to moab? or did you take pavement there? If the latter, what tires?

>>17203554
2200/year for my drz

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Hey guys, idk if anybody remembers me, but i'm the guy who recently bought an '83 CB450SC for $560.

I've been looking over the bike and putting together a checklist of things that I want to replace.

I'm having some trouble figuring out this coil thing. On a car, spark plug wires + boots come attached, and you just hook it up to the distributor.

On my bike it seems like the wires are directly attached to the coil.

I found pic related online, which is what my coil looks like, but the majority of coils online look nothing like that pic.

is this design obsolete or something?

closest i could find was (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Lead-Wire-12-volt-Ignition-Coil-Honda-CB400-CB-400-82-86-CB450-CB-450-SC-/332180522744?hash=item4d578086f8:g:iXUAAOSwB-1Y7R2U&vxp=mtr) but I don't see that it comes with spark plug boots.

forgive my ignorance. i do want to learn.

what do

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>>17204507
we did a mix of both, i did some of the NVBDR on my way to meet up with cc81 and baird, they did some of the AZBDR and we slabbed to moab from flagstaff.
i was on a shinko 805 rear and karoo3 front
cc81 was on a shinko 805 rear and 804 front
baird i think was on MT21 front and back

>>17203554
>>17203585
>>17203701
What kind of coverage do you guys even have? I'm 21 paying like $170/yr for my DR350, it's my commuter + play bike so I didn't want to skimp. But I have the feeling I could safely bring the cost down a bit...dunno.

I want to die

>>17204248
Don't drop the bike, don't set a foot down during the test. The test was like 3 or 4 maneuvers iirc.
Also make sure you actually turn your head to where you're going and scoot your ass left/right when doing the tight turn.
Really don't sweat anything, it's a fun day. You meet people and chat about bikes. It's great.

>>17204589
1st gen ZX-10R

So I got a FZ8 from Craigslist and it had a full YOSHI set up, PCV. My problem is that today I hit 130-135ish with 2.5k left on the rpm. Is that really all it can do sub 160ish??

>>17204348
rvf is 100% lams and sex. you might be thinking of the VFR400R, which is impossible to find here anyway.

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>>17204589
Why?

Im sure theres tones of beautiful places you havent ridden to yet.

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Howdy lads

>>17204677
Just want to die, don't want to ride

>>17203167
What the fuck, I'm the same height as you and you're almost double my weight!
Fuck, I couldn't imagine what it's feel like to be such a fat cunt.

>>17204684
Theres your problem.
You are chosing the wrong objective. Riding beats dying everytime.

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>>17204684
why not both

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>>17204570
ty fampai

>>17204589
>move to northern ireland
>enter road races
>either die or git gud trying

iirc this is approximately how andy carlisle set the nurburgring lap record

Sold my 250. What baiku next

>>17204555
There are different designs and shapes. My dad used a coil from a snowmobile on our atv to get it running again so i would imagine they are semi interchangeable. Also, just buy a plug wire and boot then put it on the new coil if it doesnt have them

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>>17204734
>that pic

>>17204736
>turbo busa
>drz
>sv6shitty
>metric cruiser
>scout or sportster
>older supersport
Idk, depends what you want brah

>>17202522
There are reasons and they aren't unoversal. Big bikes are bad for new riders because they normally lack some combination of self control, bravery/balls, and the desire to get better. A 250/300 is better for a learner because the bike itself will ease you into going faster and faster, and be light enough to not instill that "is this thing going to fucking fall over oh my god how the fuck do bikes stay upright shit shit shit" feeling. If it's a liter with traction control and rider modes, fuck man you're good, have fun and progress cautiously and reasonably and you're probably going to get better, safer, and faster, faster than some idiot trying the "flog yer two fiddy and you'll be rossi in no time" thing.

You can start on a ZX10, VFR800, CBR/GSXR1k, anything, and learn to be a good and safe rider if you are the right kind of person to do it.

On the other hand, with a bigger bike you are paying a huge fucking premium on insurance, tires, chains, and gas consumption for more bike than you will use for the next five+ years assuming you just started riding. That shit adds up fast, especially tires. Not only does everything cost almost twice as much, the extra power and weight wears it down twice as fast.

If you have proven yourself to be a naturally competent and mature rider in SOMEONE ELSE'S opinion, then you should save yourself the financial ruin and start on a midsize bike that's popular at track days like an EX500, CB400SF if they're available to you, etc.

>>17204777
Already decided on a Daytona. I just wanted to post. Thank you for your (You).

>>17202594
Nice fucking context. Still completely ignored that a cover is $20. LLLLLLEEEETTTTSSS GET REEEEEAADDDYYY TO RUUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!

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Is 11 hours of ridding too much to do in a day?
About 5:30h one way, have lunch and rest a bit, and back. No highway.

>>17204850
11 hours on the highway would suck dick but 11 hours with something to do on the bike wouldn't be too bad

>>17202736
>not taking off your mirrors so they don't bend the upper fairing stay in a slide
>not also doing it because every bike looks cooler without them

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>>17204850
>>17204855
This is the theorical route.
One to go and the other one to come back.
About 600km, lots of twisties and a little bit offroad trails.

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>see ad on cl
>contact guy and meet up
>show up to seller's house and he pulls this piece of paper for you to read

>>17204664
Ahh yeah, my mistake.
Alright - "CB400 best learner bike except for a RVF400"
Better?

Is the WR250R the perfect dual sport if I don't do a lot of highway miles and do tight single track stuff?

>>17204953
only if you enjoy having no power

Arai or AGV? 400-700$ range

>>17204898
did you tell him he's extremely autistic?

>>17204684
die with glory

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>>17204850
it stops being fun after about 10-12
i ran 1100 miles from moab to seattle in a day and about the time i ran out of light i was feeling like stopping

>>17204678
Evenin'

>>17205007
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1723/72231/GoldenTyre-GT723-Rally-Adventure-Rear-Tire


Here you go my friend

>>17205063
why are you linking that one?

>>17205081
cc asked me to

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>>17204978

no, he wouldnt show the bike unless i had the money.

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>>17205085
oh, i havent heard enough about them to chuck $200 at one of those.
and why isnt he shitposting himself?

>>17205136
Nigga I don't know

>>17205129
what? You were at his house and he wouldn't even let you look at the bike unless you pulled out a wad of cash?

>>17205169
>it's a bike
>bikes are easy to hide, easy to ride, go places police cruisers can't and fit places choppers can't see, and therefore easy to steal
>you could even take it offroad with a degree of skill and caution, while a car would run into two closely spaced trees and have to reverse course
>punch the guy in the face and nab the keys
>ride off faster than the cops can pursue
>dissasemble it the moment you get home
>every mod is worth three times as much off the bike
>part it out over time

Can't blame him.

>>17205169
I can kindof understand that unless it was for a shitbike or something, i wouldnt want to pull out an expensive ass bike for some random dude to look at without knowing if he is even remotley interested in buying it.

>>17205183
>Can't blame him.
I can. When people go to check out bikes on craigslist they expect to actually expect to look at it at the very least.
I could totally understand him not handing over the keys without some cash but to hide the bike and hand over a novel about it is fucking retarded. People will see the bike every day as he rides it and after he parks it. Why is he not afraid of them? Does he never ride it?

Dude should consider selling to a dealer if he is afraid to let people LOOK AT his bike.

>>17205210
Do you never ride it either? People will look at your bike every time you leave the house. Chances are if you ride it you will also park in a public place at some point where some malevolent stranger could look at it even more closely.

>>17205224
>ducati
>those mods
>that service
>"does he never ride it?"

All signs point to yes.

>>17205244
>implying I actually read the paper

>>17203174
Damn repsol fairings look great. Shame Honda didn't paint the swingarm black.

>>17201435
I can smoke the fuck out of any of you /dbt/ fags in my 2000 EK hatch with a couple of simple mods.

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>>17205404
repsol fairings look dumb

>reppin spanish gas stations lol!
>borderline urban cameo

HRC tricolor a best

>>17204906
sadly true, so many of the restricted bikes lose a huge edge when they have to fit into lams, and then most (currently produced) bikes that are already lams are woeful in either power, handling, or quality control.

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>>17205422
not this pasta again....

Best bike to itasha? Stock fairings only.

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>>17203554
$2400 a year for my fz6. Thanks Ontario.

>>17205430
Honda should just scrap the 600 and make a 750

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Any of you own one yet?

How is it? Local dealership just got them and I'd love to hear any of your opinions on them...

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>>17205430
yeah okay buddy

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>>17205448
arr sportbike rook same and have lots of sticker realestate

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>>17205430
HRC tricolour looks great as well. I don't really care that it says REPSOL per say, I just like the colour orange and obnoxious race fairings. The rsv4 fairings have great paint that looks race-y.

>>17205448
Panigale, cbr or gsxr all have pretty flat fairings.

>>17205459
They have scrapped the 600. They aren't going to be developing a new CBR 600, but I doubt they will be making a 750. It would certainly be cool though, but I'm not sure if there would be enough of a difference between that and the 1000.

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>>17205459
They aren't going to make any new sub-1000cc track bike, the market is too small to bother. Their focus is pretty squarely on the original CBR600F market.

>>17205485
>ruining a panigale with stickers
then again, if you're stickerbombing, you're definitely not a potential panigale owner

honda will make a 750 when europe bans liters.

>>17205490
>>17205492
I guess I'll get a slowzuki, paint it in HRC colors and put honda stickers on it.

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>>17205496
For every two ducati purists there is one guy who does not give one fuck.

>>17205499
Pretty much this, but Europe already banned the CBR600 and the difference in performance between the middleweight and 1000 class bikes has been thinning. The sales of 600 super sports are not very impressive. All the money is shifting to naked sports touring bikes.

>>17205510
>worst girl
Fitting for a European bike

>>17205510
I can't believe I actually like the windscreen. As ricer as it looks, it goes well with purple accents on the sticker as well as contrasts the matte black.

>>17205515
They made emissions so strict that honda couldn't make it saleable there without killing their already small profit margin on a shrinking market.

What is not shrinking is 1000cc supersport insurance rates and the raw fact that they're just too fucking much, when first gear will exceed every single speed limit on the planet in less than three seconds and second gear will get you into moderate trouble on any given day on the autobahn.

750-800cc is the perfect size for streetable I4/V4 sportbikes. They're not insane, but they're not so small that low end torque is negligible. They do go fast, but it's a very controllable fast even for a shit rider.

Yet the free market is for dick measuring

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Has anybody here ever had a catastrophic mechanical failure while riding? What was that like?

>>17205552
Sort of, wasn't way serious
>xr600
>Slowing to a stop from highway speeds
>engine died
>put it in second to bump start before stop
>Rolled the throttle to give a little to stay running
>Throttle got stuck open
>fly backwards
>busted back fairing and bent kickstart a little
All in all it could have been much worse.
Thank god for ATGATT

>>17205596
>I couldn't pull in the clutch

>>17205542
600s having no torks is mostly a matter of them being tuned for racing, so you have to get maximum top end out of limited displacement. Those gutted JDM F4is have noticeably more bottom end than the full hoon US ones or Europe F Sports even.

The easy way is to go for a 750 triple or something for the same power level but it's possible to make pretty tractable sub-750 inline 4s.