[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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>>16233937
>tfw no klx140

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DAILY REMINDER DYING IS ENCOURAGED BUT NOT MANDATORY

LITERS ARE WELCOME

AMERICANS MUST BRING THEIR OWN BURGERS

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>>16233943
>tfw no klx450

>>16233949
>UK still on the map
lmao kys

>>16233959
Green is mean

>>16233965
They haven't left yet famalam

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>>16233966
that's why my WR was green

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>>16233971
But blue is true

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>>16233974
that's why I am blue

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>>16233981
Red is dead

>>16233965
As far as I know the UK is still Europe, no matter if they are in the EU or not.

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>>16233990
>mfw not red

>>16233989
And yellow is meh-llow

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>>16233990
that's why the TT has parts of red in it.
because a part of me died.

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>>16234004
But white is right

>>16233996
DID SOMEBODY SAY MELLOW?

https://youtu.be/5il6Mk2olzI

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Still waiting for op to post pics of this guys sis.

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>>16234009
that's why most of it is white, because it was mostly a right decision to buy it.

>>16234014
Malcolm didn't have a sis

>>16234014
I have no pictures of any sisters to offer sadly.

>>16234021
>>16234028
I shall wait. I have hope for op

>>16234014
Op will deliver.

>>16234028
I have pics of wr anons sister

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Hey /dbt/
I'm gonna sell my er6n, because I want a dualsport again. But I need to take the autobahn to go to work.
What do you think of the xtr 660?

Why does no one stab people on bikes?
#transportationofpeace

>>16234049
>autobahn
>anything less than 150hp
You're doing it wrong

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>>16234049
heavy but OK
comfy
thumper is lyfe
>>16234054
>mfw not even car has 150 hp
>mfw soon have more HP in my bike than in the car
lel

>>16233937
I wonder what her armpit smells like.

>>16234038
Deliver

>>16234054
I've never took anything >150hp on the autobahn

85hp is more than enough

>>16234054
Max speed here is 70 mph, and cops everywhere
150hp 'll be unusable

>>16234064
like ur mom

>>16234067
you're missing out uezs

>>16234064
Old deodorant and sweat

>>16234069
>autobahn
>70mph limit
>cops

Wat

>>16234069
I thought the entire point of the autobahn was that there is no speed limit?

>>16234058
Yes it's heavy, but I ride a lot in daily driving, so a "real" sumo is a bas choice

>>16234073
How would you know WR you fucking autist, you probably think girls look like Barbies down there because you've never seen a vagina.

>>16234073
>you're missing out uezs

I've passed the 200km/h mark already, but my vehicles aren't made for such high speeds if the roads aren't perfectly smooth.

>>16234075
>>16234076
I'm not in deutschland paradise, but in the country beside, so speed limit etc..

>>16234094
Use km/h you piece of Americanized shit.

Here we have 130km/h limits, but nobody to enforce it.
Crossing the country in 2 hours is a possibility if you can afford the fuel.

>>16234094
>>>>> Poland
All your country is good for is cheap hookers, cheap gas, cheap alcohol and cheap cigarettes.

>>16234084
>the wr anon = autism meme
haha epic!
>>16234083
it can still do the usual shenanigans, but if you're in Europe get it before this year ends because otherwise you can't register it because of the EU exhaust fume regulation shit
>>16234092
rent one or get your friend to ask his Zuhälter friend for his car for a day, like we did.
done the 300+
was great fun
>>16234094
>Nederlands
lmao cuckold:the country

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So I ran low on oil and ruined a crankshaft bearing. What's the cheapest way of remedying this ? Is swapping out the bottom end cheaper then opening the case ? DRZ 400.

I think I'm going to buy a bottom end off ebay and have my mechanic buddy put em together.

>>16234105
> 4 replies in one post
> still pretending like you're not autistic
Simbly ebin :--DDD

>>16234107
How much did you ride since then? Just overfill by the missing amount and ride that distance backwards, it'll undo the damage.
t. expert.

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Please someone post sis. All this talk has made pepe diamonds. Just like how an American would say.

>>16234105
>>Nederlands
I don't think he's here, as we barely have any cops on the highway. Average today was 20km/h over the limits.

>rent one or get your friend to ask his Zuhälter friend for his car for a day, like we did.
I'm not planning to go that fast in a car, too boring. I'll just wait until I have the cash for a proper fast bike.

>>16234114
hahaha sure convinced me, retard
just because you can't focus on replying to more than one post a reply doesn't mean no one else can

>Commute on DS/Sumo
>Subframe can barely handle cargo, neither can engine
>no boot space
>tiny gas tank

whats the point.

>>16234121
it wasn't that boring
and it's also great fun to gun the V8 in the city because all people where like
WHAT THAT NOIZ

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>>16234118
ok

>>16234123
watch me fegit

>>16234105
>>16234102
>>16234101
It's switzerland, max speed is 120 kmh, but nobody knows why every roads here are max 100, only one at 110kmh
Cops every where, 17 radar on my way to go to work, and gas expensive as fuck
oh, and if u change anything, like a bulbe, you habe to pay to registrate it

>>16234134
oh fugg
high functional autism at work
>>16234136
reply

>>16234076
>>16234075
>>16234054
Are you aware of the fact that autobahn has speed limits most of the time, right?

>>16234128
fun, handeling in traffic

>>16234128
>quick
>maneuverable
>can ride it into the building when you get there
What's not the point?

>>16234140
Not the parts I'm going, that's mostly limitless and otherwise it's cheap as fuck to speed.

Also, no front plate means almost no tickets

>>16234134
Nice wrists. Post more.

>>16234117
I wish this were true.

>>16234156
How do you know it isn't if you haven't tried it?

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>>16234134
Post more sister pls

Preferably with less clothes

Would you move to mars if there were dirt bikes?
>instant 2/3rds weight reduction
>enduro to the solar system's largest volcano/mountain

>>16234064
I wonder how her armit tastes like and if she'd get off it if I liked it.

>>16234148
Doesn't make what I said any less true.
I could easily speed on my highway as well without consequences.

>>16234107
>the reliable drz400 proves itself again
Why is it people swear by the reliability of these bikes again?

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>CHINA GROW STRONGER!!!
>GROM IS DIE!

>>16234167
need some good gear for those -73c°

>>16234243
run your bike without oil and tell us what happens

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>>16234167

>electric
ehhh

>combustion (methane-burning in a terraformed atmosphere?)
I'd have to think about it desu

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>>16234248
Just man the fuck up, sissy

>>16234249
>his bike is so unreliable it randomly loses its oil

why did it lose its oil?
(do i be for serial and say it probably blew a gasket because the owner had too much oil in the engine to begin with?)

>>16234270
this is a painting and the guy in it would be frozen to death if it was a real situation

you probably believe anime is real too

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>>16234243
>don't do maintenance
>wow it's broke

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>>16234279

>>16234279
You mean you would freeze to death in a situation like that because you are a 50kg lanklet right?

>>16234301
my balls are 50kg, your mother told you this?

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>>16234297
I thought the idea of owning a drz400 was so you didnt have to do any maintenance, why not just get a proper dirt bike if they blow up so often?

>>16234311
>I thought the idea of owning a drz400 was so you didnt have to do any maintenance
are you actually retarded

>>16234311
fun

>>16234323
>are you actually retarded
Nah i don't own a drz400 so i dodged that bullet

>>16234334
better like this, you would've killed it with your retardation of no maintenance

>>16234323
Thats all you fags ever go on about because the bike has no other redeeming quality.
>>16234324
>slow, heavy, cantturn is fun!

>>16234341
if u cant turn with a sumo, you're a moron

>>16234341
yeah everyone said neglect all maintenance and ride your bike low on oil KEK

>>16233971
Is green on a ktm OK or is it sacrilege?

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>>16234348
If i wanted to be slow but still turn and be light. Id get a ttr or simular

is there anything more retarded than single sided swingarms outside of a race track?

>>16234340
So what you are saying is the drz400 needs regular maintenance?

Whats the point of buying one again?
May as well just get a 450, do the same amount of maintenance on that and have a better bike to ride.

What's the new wranon's bike?

>>16234366
>drz400 needs regular maintenance
are you retarded?
you don't need maintenance

>>16234366
No way dude. You cam ride a DRZ to 200k miles before even changing oil

>>16234366
>he didn't read the manual
maintenance free, can you read?

>>16234375
>>16234381
If a drz400 does not need maintenance then why did anons drz400 lose enough oil to destroy a main bearing?
>>16234107

Looks like he would have been better off buying a 2003 KTM.

>>16234365
GP shift pattern

>>16234390
Yeah but if you do DON'T ADD OIL it's or it's gonna go up in flames. KTMs don't need oil, why even get a drz?

>>16234390
>If a drz400 does not need maintenance then why did anons drz400 lose enough oil to destroy a main bearing?
Because it was so slow it committed suicide.

>>16234366
All motorcycles need the same regular maintenance

Maintain and change engine oil
Maintain and change coolant
Flush brake fluid
Replace pads
Replace rotors
Adjust, lube, and eventually replace cables
Change fork oil
Lube suspension components
Replace bearings, or maybe just clean and repack them
Change tires
Clean, lube, adjust, and eventually replace chain/sprockets
Check and adjust valves

And then you have special snowflakes in the dirt/supermoto/racebike category that need the occasional top end rebuild, something that really should not be expected of a four stroke.

>we saved 10lbs making the engine less reliable!

The DRZ400 is not one of those snowflakes.

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>>16234365
>SSS being good for a racetrack
Literally why? They're less rigid and heavier. They'd only be a good choice for endurance racing or something where you go through multiple rear tires.

And this is coming from a faggot with one.

>>16234395
That's just user preference.

>>16234365
Quickshifter because it "saves time"
those 0,02 seconds sure do a lot on your ri- oh red light, slow drivers I'm sure you're glad that you shaved off 2 seconds on a 30 minute commute

>>16234411
More like
>we made 20 more horsepower and sacrificed nearly nothing.

>>16234417
>use backwards shift linkage
>get on another bike
>go to upshift
>grenade engine

>>16234423
you mean because they can't shift properly with the clutch and want to take the easy way out

99% of squids who shfit clutchless say "it's so smooth duuuude"

>>16234411
If a drz is only 10lb heavier than my bike then why does it weigh 40kg more?

>>16234426
>Nearly nothing

If you're a sponsored racer.

If you're the only person who owns the bike then enjoy replacing that piston.

>>16234436
Rings every 10,000 miles is nothing.
Youre stupid if you think its anything more.

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>>16234411
Underrated post
I hate modern bikes with like, 0.5L sumps and short/dealer exclusive service regimes.

Anyway, what's better:
http://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-13708122/
or
http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-4214443/

>>16234445
honda because reliability
triumph because muh triple

dunno I'd go the save route and take the honda

>>16234439
I do 10,000 miles every five months. Split it between two bikes and that's still a yearly rebuild.

Valve checks are a big enough PITA. I'm not racing in some superendurocross charity spaghetti run. I'll take the extra weight.

>>16234431
>>use backwards shift linkage
>>get on another bike
>>go to upshift
>>grenade engine
I'll take things that never happened for $2000.

>Implying you won't instantly get feedback that you're shifting the wrong way when you stall trying to move in 6th

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>>16234411
It is all fun and games trying to stick by the shitzuki reliability thing as long as you remember to forget that the beta 480rr exists.
>20kg lighter than drz400
>20 more horsepower than drz400
>just as reliable as a drz400

Idk why anyone even tries to pretend that suzuki is doing a good job these days.

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>>16234454

>>16234445
>getting anything but this http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-4407534/

>dem lights
>dat paint
>dat price
>dat ptwin reliability
>dat totally roadworthy write-off

>>16234454
why not have an even heavier road bike that is actually comfy to ride on the road as well as a high strung light weight dirt bike that you ride on weekends?

Probably work out to be less maintenance than riding a drz full time too.

>>16234483
More fun to ride a slow bike fast.

How about a DRZ and a KTM two stroke?

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>>16234489
personally i have a comfy ujm and a ktm 2 stroke

>>16234262
My friend's cousin's uncle was almost hit by a spacebuggy and he could've died. Motorcycling on mars is dangerous.

>>16234507
Meant for >>16234167

>>16234243
*in the hands of a non retard that lets his thumper run low on oil.

>>16234516
Honestly i think he over filled it, not let it run low.

Over filling with oil causes too much pressure inside the engine which blows gaskets.

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Sv

>Haven't ridden in 2 months
starting to go crazy and I have 3 months to go..

>>16234542
I prefer the mk1 sv

>>16234460
>a billion $dollars
>no pl8

>>16234542
whys the pipe go around the header

>>16234629
because muh

Bought a Kymco K-Pipe.

I'm hasbike now.

>>16234460
>20 times the price

>>16234637
you are a hasscooter.

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>>16234622
sup bb

>>16234439
So they sacrified heaps of reliability.

>>16234648
kek why the fuck is that sign a thing?

>>16234648
>Carbs

Ayy lmao!

>>16234646
It has manual gears. Not a scooter

>>16234653
Explain how.

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>>16234626
>he can't get dirt bikes registered in his 3rd world communist shithole
even my 2 stroke is plated

>>16234648
Dick so hard right now
But it can't wheelie without breaking the engine and thats a shame :(

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whatever gen SV this is looks really fucking ugly

looks like a budget fz6

>>16234654
So that shit parents can feel a little bit better about being a failure as a caregiver for their spoiled brats.

Autism is a made up disorder that describes children who live in the 21st century and know damned well that i am going to jail if i lay a finger on them.

>>16234658
>Well we can agree its a cuckbike

>>16234669
thats why you take off all the fairing

>>16234673
Eh, my friend had a brother that was severely autistic. Couldn't even speak and has the mental capacity of a few month old baby. He had a tard wrangler assigned to him 100% of the time.

I agree it's over diagnosed like ADHD though.

>>16234682
doesn't fix that raunchy exhaust

>>16234654
warning people that /dbt/ posters were around, obviously

>>16234666
checked
under 30 seconds is fine, I'm told, but I agree that it's a flaw

>>16234661
You must be dense.

>>16234675
>still a bike

>>16234686
That is called down syndrome not autism.

Wtf they are even calling literal retards autistic now?
do doctors just call eveything autism?

They were trying to say my nephew is autistic for not being a literal retard and being a bit hyper active.
they really need to make up their minds.

>>16234707
Nah it wasn't down syndrome, he looked normal.

>>16234699
No. You just cant explain it because its not a thing. I ride a WR450. Its quite reliable.
Prove they arent please

>>16234648
Taking photos outside your house is a good way to get doxxed.

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>>16234669
>really fucking ugly

Sure is

>looks like fz6

Doesn't look anything like the FZ6 other than having a bikini fairing (which has been around for years) and the 2nd gen actually predates the FZ6 anyway so it'd be the other way around.

>>16234713
looks like and is a worse fz6

>>16234704
>125cc

Is pretty cuckold. If you dont want us to gangbang ur mum, sister or gf get a real bike, fagget!

>>16234710
>So reliable it needs new rings every 10k.

Yep that is soooo relaible LMAO

>>16234707
>On the other hand, I work as a psychiatrist and some of my patients are autistic. Many of these patients are nonverbal. Many of them are violent. Many of them scream all the time. Some of them seem to live their entire lives as one big effort to kill or maim themselves which is constantly being thwarted by their caretakers and doctors. I particularly remember one patient who was so desperate to scratch her own face – not in a ‘scratch an itch’ way, but in a ‘I hate myself and want to die’ way – that she had to be kept constantly restrained, and each attempt to take her out of restraints for something as basic as going to the bathroom ended with her attacking the nurse involved. This was one of the worse patients, but by no means unique. A year or so ago, after a particularly bad week when two different nurses had to go to the emergency room, the charge nurse told me in no uncertain terms that the nursing staff was burned out and I was banned from accepting any more autistic patients. This is a nurse who treats homicidal psychopaths and severely psychotic people every day with a smile on her face. When she says “autistic”, it seems worlds apart from the “autistic” that means “good at math and makes cute hand flap motions”. When a mental health professional says “autistic”, the image that comes to mind is someone restrained in a hospital bed, screaming.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/10/12/against-against-autism-cures/

>>16234719
That has nothing to do with reliability you mong.
The bike doesnt randomly break. If it did, it would be unreliable.
Therefor its not unreliable.

>>16234727
Yep its unreliable. Sorry you are dense.

>>16234722
My aunt works with autistic kids. She had one kid that likes to do 'piss bombs' where he pinches the tip of his foreskin, pees and fills it up like a balloon, then lets go and lets his piss fly all over her.

Happened to her a few times.

>>16234727
It breaks every 10k. Its an unreliable shit.

You can rely on it breaking down every 10k. Thats relaible.

>>16234729
Unreliable is when something break unexpectedly.
You can rely on it needing new rings every 10k.

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>>16234729
>>16234732
Holy fuck

>>16234722
You just described children with no adult guidance.

Children are sociopaths and without proper guidance they end up completely fucked in their brain cases, this has been well known for all of human history, when did blaming the parents stop being a thing?

I blame the victim culture, the victims had kids, destroyed the kids and now have everyone convinced the kid being fucked in the head is not their doing.

>wires catch on fire
>bike might be dead
Hello darkness my old friend

guys I figured out that if I just barely rev my engine at a stop in first gear and then let out the clutch in just the right way my bike takes off like a motherfucker despite being a 250cc

if I drop the clutch the front tire jumps

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>>16234765

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>>16234757

>>16234768
thanks grandma you always told me if I believed in myself I could do it and here I am now

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Badger sliders, Y/N?

>>16234107
>>16234390
>>16234243
Look guys, I just made a retarded mistake and didn't check the oil. Now how do I remedy this as painlessly as possible.

>>16234102
>All your country is good for is cheap hookers, cheap gas, cheap alcohol and cheap cigarettes.

So it's paradise?

>>16234730
Sounds like a spoiled little cunt of a kid who knows no one can stop him from doing it because even doctors say he is allowed to get away with it.

Id piss all over the filthy little cunt.
hold him down and shit on him too, then we will see who has the most autisms

>>16234107
>I think I'm going to buy a bottom end off ebay and have my mechanic buddy put em together.

Inspect everything you plan to use off the broken engine first. Then total gaskets, piston and rings if needed etc. and compare to a good used engine.

>riding bike home having a good time
>Turn into my neighborhood, keep riding
>ride past some old ladies, they're giving me a death stare
>didn't realize I was going 50 in a residential area

sorry granny I'm not a squid I swear

>>16234786
You don't, If a main bearing is fucked you have to split the cases to change it there is no way around it.
Likely the crank is also fucked if a bearing is too btw, replace that as well before the con rod goes through your engine case.

Probably around a $1800 job on your hands.

>>16234798
embrace the squid

>>16234787
I once fucked a underaged polish girl

>>16234786
Buy a WR450

>>16234791
Kek. My family was close friends with a couple who insisted on keeping their autistic shit because they thought they could parent it out of him.

Eventually, they put enough fear in him to get him to stand still and stay quiet. he didn't do much else. he never got a job. he never learned empathy. he never understood that other people actually existed. he'd never understand why you were mad at him or if you were mad at him. The faggot was less like a human being and more like a talking animal.

And then he went to jail and had to register as a sex offender when he was found doing, things, with a pregnant dog.

by me

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>Guy lowsided his ninja 300 FIVE times
>Trading it for a car
probably for the best

>>16234365
>is there anything more retarded than single sided swingarms outside of a race track?

No disadvantage off-track if the exhaust doesn't block wheel removal.

Did a single-sided swingarm molest you?

>>16234806
So did most of the Red Army. They must be good.

>>16234853
Yeah, it was pretty great. The mother lended her to me for a while.

>>16234826
that thing isn't even worth 2k

>>16234735
So its unreliable. Cant stay operational for more than 10k. Sounds unrelaible to me.

Imagine fixing your bike twice a year to commute. What an unrelaible heap of shit.

>>16234757
You are fucked now m8. You never let the smoke out of the wires

>>16234243
Any engine without oil is gonna die.

Used complete engines are about 1500 shipped off Ebay.

Better buy two or three, then fill with oil so they are ready to use. Motion Pro sells fuel line quick disconnects and you could use tricks like captive nuts for the engine bolts so you can reduce future swapout times. Exhausts can be quick-swapped when held by coil springs.

Ride until knock or seizure, replace engine with full good motor, repeat.

>>16234895
Not only did the smoke get it out, the flames did too. Took me and the road ranger guy 5 minutes to collect it all up again

>>16234892
>instigating
Stupid DRZ fags cant get over themselves.
Its sad

>>16234904
Not necessarily. OSET not a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeeYtp-8qE

>>16234800
You could buy an entire slightly used motor off ebay for less than that
>>16234786

>>16234798
>>didn't realize I was going 50 in a residential area
>situationally unaware
Definitely a squid and bad rider/driver.

>>16234935
You are right with one of your claims.

>>16234933
Pics?

>>16234935
Drzcucks not fags.

I love stirring the pot with this new spicy drz/wr meme

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>>16233990
Da red wunz do go fasta!"

>>16234987
New cummies when?

>>16234987
me too. all it takes is a single dr-z pic

>>16234935
I literally think every time the DRZ arguement comes up its just Anon taking the piss outta whoever is gonna take the bait. Like, really, the bike had its day... but that day has long passed. The DRZ is just a rose tinted memory that wavers in our minds and slowly creeps back in every now and again. Like a friend that moved out of town, or a son gone to college.

We remember:

Fuck that shitter of a bike.

>>16234049
Depends on length of commute. It can handle anything you need. My X is approaching 50.000 km without any problems. Autobahn is too boring anyways.

>>16235009
The DR-Z400 is objectively the best expert level dual sport bike.
> mileage
It's a mid-sized 4stroke single cylinder bike, so it gets at least 50mpg.
> handling
It handles nothing like a supersport. It it tall and light with a steering geometry set up to be very agile. This combined with the wide handlebars make it very easy to change directions.
> brakes
The brakes are designed for off-road and aren't so twitchy they will lock up easily on slick surfaces. They are completely acceptable but require a firm squeeze, yet with a larger diameter rotor upgrade like on the SM model you will find it taking no effort at all to slow down very quickly.
> power
When you're a good rider you don't need 100+ HP to pass everyone on the touge. Git gud faget.
> carbs
The CV carb found on the DR-Z helps calm down the twitchiness of a lightweight single.
> seating position
The tall seat combined with a completely upright seating position puts you high enough to see over all but the highest brotrucks. It is also a very comfortable position which puts practically no strain on your lower back or wrists.
> price and availability
The bike has gone unchanged for the last 15 years so there's plenty available for very cheap. The popularity and lack of change keeps the resale value high so it's easy to sell. This has the downside of making them expensive to buy in the used market but can be avoided with patience.
> suspension
The Dr-Z400 features a fully adjustable Showa cartridge forks and shock which offer splendid damping characteristics. You can tune it to your riding style with the clickers and preload adjusters, but you will benefit from a respring if you're a fat fuck. Lose some weight.

>>16235048
>some of this is factually wrong
>none of it proves its a good bike
Normal DRZ delusions

>>16234998
Ask drop anon

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>>16235009
get out yamaha shill.
faster bikes were made before it too. Didn't stop it from selling like crazy and still doesn't.

>>16235048
haha I love this copypasta. Figured someone would reply to me with this.

But seriously, I flip a coin everytime this argument launches and then take a side and shitpost away.

>>16235068

Oh no, I'm the worst shill there ever was. I appreciate anything that isn't a Suzuki. KTM, Ducati, Honda, Kwaka, Yamaha...

>>16235010
it's like 30 km, 10 town, 10 outside town, and 10 autobahn
What should I know before buying the xt?

>>16234985
ranger guy had to spray it down twice because the wires kept shorting

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>buy newused bike
>obviously hasn't been ridden in upwards of six months
>haven't had a bike in forever, eager to get riding again
>show up to work late, because I had to pay property taxes, transfer title, and register the bike
>pick up new helmet on the way home from work
>get home
>double check tire pressure
>lost 4 psi in 24 hours
Fuck, what do dbt? Is it a terrible idea to ride it without replacing the tires?

>>16235066
nothing in that pasta is wrong

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>>16234985
Shit here

>>16234663
>posts no proof of plated 2t

>>16235121
>wide bars help change direction easily
Narrow bars turn quicker
>objectively
Wrong
>expert
Its a beginner bike
>steering geometry set up to be very agile
Its set up to trail ride slowly and with stability. Its not agile at all.
>set up for offroad
>talks about sm large diameter
Conflicting info
>touge
On a dirt bike?!?!
>high resale is easy to sell
No
>avoid high prices
So buy a beat to shit one?
>splendid damping characteristics
They are spongy... for slow mild trail riding.

>>16234666
>>16234698
>cant wheelie for more than 30s
no 5km wheelies for you then. yamaha a best.

GSR650F, MT-07 (Fz-06), R3, Ninja 300 or Ninja 250. Which bike will teach me to corner better? I fully understand these are completely different bikes, but in my country they are price somewhat close. The SV650 is not here yet, we're still stuck with the gladius. Cornering is the most fun aspect in a bike, and my bike (xtz 125 E with dual sport tires) don't give me much confidence scraping the foot peg.

so i want a four stroke 250 trail bike, are the only options a wr250f or converting an mx bike? i dont really want to convert an mx, i want the magic button.
or i could get a 450, there are more options, but its out of my league i think.

>>16235167
Fe250 if you want top of the line
Xr250 if you want cheap and slow
Wr250 if you want a nice middle ground

>>16235156
It will come down to your willingness to learn more than the bike.

imo I don't like the MT-07s handling but I've seen people ride them quick kneedown too (genuinely the front is horrifyingly soft) so that's the only one I wouldn't recommend in terms of wanting to learn to corner.

>>16235167
You need to look to european bikes for decent small enduros with e-start, sherco, KTM, beta etc.

>>16235153
>Narrow bars turn quicker
Do you not know how leverage/mechanical advantage works? It makes it take less effort to turn.
>objectively
But it is best.
>Expert
Learn to ride gud and the DR-Z will do you well.
>Not agile
Raise up the forks in the triple clamps and it will turn in a lot faster. Anyway when you get up to speed you can really feel that it's not meant to ride straight all day. It really wants to turn.
>Can't use a larger diameter rotor off road
Sure you can. Why not? I do it.
>Touge on a dirt bike?
Sure why not? It can do anything.
>Not easy to sell for a high price.
Have you looked on craigslist? They hold their value really well and people still buy them. I just sold a set of wheels from the bike alone for $700.
>Has to buy a beat to shit one to get a good deal
No you just wait until a good deal comes along and act fast. There are a hundred bad deals for every good one so maybe you haven't looked hard enough.
>damping characteristics for mild trail riding
Exactly. It does it really well.

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>>16235155
no 5km wheelies for any yamaha lmao

>>16235196
Holy fuck. I seriously hope this is a troll

>>16235167
Don't get caught up in the displacement meme. You don't have to look ONLY at 250s. Anyway:
250/350 EXC-F
XR400
CRF230F
CRF250X
DR-Z400

>>16235202
>12 years ago

>>16235208
well it is b8 but everything I said is true

>>16235219
No. No its not

>>16235224
yes it is. I own one as well as a 450. I really do like the DR-Z

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>>16235211
>2000
>R1 transmissions blew up
>2015
>R1 transmissions blew up

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/12/15/recall-roster-all-2015-yamaha-yzf-r1-sportbike-motorcycles-gearbox-issue

some things never change, stay wheelie-less and edgy lad.

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>>16235196
I dont even.

>>16235192
Do you really think it has more to do with me than the bike? It may be because I use dual sport tires, but I just don't feel safe while trying to take a high speed corner. And sport touring is not exactly the kind of bike you use to go to the twisty road, is it? I honestly don't since, since I've just rode on my bike ever and don't have ANY riding buddy.

i just walked past my bike at work and theres frost on it
it gon be a chilly ride home bois

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>>16235185
this makes me lean toward the wr then. it's pretty modern and cheaper than euros.

>>16235192
very little dealer support for those sadly, and i can't afford them. ktm/husky would be doable if i had the money, but i might be moving even further from a dealer.

>>16235210
maybe i could get a used excf or xcw but i was hoping to buy new, cant afford a new kato.

why are japs barely making enduros?? should i go 450? i won't be able to use it to its limit at all.

>>16235255
>not having heated gear when riding all seasons
That doesn't sound comfy friend

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>>16235238
>drive chains
>frames
>generators
>master cylinders (2004-2013 holy shit)
and their rectifiers still go bad all the time, and no recall hmm really makes you think

>>16235263

>why are japs barely making enduros?? should i go 450? i won't be able to use it to its limit at all.
They do. Not in murrica though

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>>16235263
Get a ktm.
or don't because of the reddit maymays.
a lot of people believe the reddit maymays.

>>16235283
they have 250 enduros in what countries? im interested in what kawi's got.

>>16235263
MSRP difference between the KTMs and the Yamahas is like $1k. You're getting a much better bike from KTM for just a little more so I say go for them. Added bonus is the 2017 EXC 4-strokes come street legal from KTM so you have that option if you want it (may cost more).

In the used market they cost about the same here as well.

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>>16235254
I was just saying of his spread of bike selection given there with the POSSIBLE exception of the MT-07 (despite the fact I've also seen people shredding on those as well) the bikes will all be fine and it's just down to him, they all turn, they've all got enough clearance to get your kneedown etc.It's all down to your brain and dedication from there on out.

I don't know what bike you ride so I can't say, if it's a dual sport or whatever I understand, I rode a KLR650 once and thought it was the worst bike I've ever ridden and couldn't imagine hustling it.

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>>16235254
Get street tires.

Then do gymkhana. You ride a 125cc so I'm assuming you're not american and therefore do not have to travel cross country to find a group that cares about actually riding motorcycles.

>>16235263
You won't be able to ride a 250 near its limits either so what does it matter?

Every single bike available is capable of much more than you will ever be capable of making it do.

>>16235299
>>16235293
i'll look into it then. 2bh the mait seems crazy and i do kinda believe it, is that what you meant? a plate does sound nice.

>>16235318
yeah i know. i wanted a 250 since it will be lighter. i haven't heard much good or bad about the wr250f but its my top option right now. just looking for alternatives.

>>16235318
You ca nride a 250 near the engine's limits just fine

The bike itself, eh. If it's a cruiser you might be scraping things and "hanging off" (as well as a cruiser allows) on day one.

The beginner displacement meme is just to save idiots from whisky throttle, discovering the powerband for the very first time mid-corner, and momentarily becoming 12 years old and trying to go faster just because the bike can, ignoring the rider, tires, and road.

>>16235270
I bought a turtle fur neck a month ago thinking I'd be set but now I need to bump it up to a balaclava
I wear the same textile jacket I wore all summer but with hoodie and long sleeve shirt underneath which is ok
Being a poorfuck riding a 90's ds I won't bother with heated stuff, I don't want to fuck with wiring.
Really I just need the balaclava, thicker pants and long johns, winter gloves to get by. Also rain gear

>>16235335
he's talking about 250 dirtbikes not road bikes.

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>>16235298
Australia and only Yamaha cares.
Honda also makes the crf250x.

>>16235345
It still applies

And whisky throttle in dirt is worse. Guess how I know.

>>16235302
I see. It all comes down to preference in the end. I'll post here when I finally buy it.

>>16235305
Yep, not american, but not European either. There's no gymkhana here in [spoiler]Brazil[/spoiler], the country is also pretty big, and I don't know any enduro events nearby. There's only some motocross. And I'm already looking into buying street tires.

>>16235362
I just don't think a beginner will be able to ride a 250 4T near engine limit on dirt anyway is all.

Like a good 250 that is.

I don't think the difference between 450 and 250 dirtbikes is comparable to road bike displacement differences where the 250s are generally beginners bikes and made to lower spec etc.

>>16235333
>2bh the mait seems crazy and i do kinda believe it, is that what you meant?
no the reddit maymays are that the KTM will snap in half and break down if you touch it.

As for the maintenance, it will be similar for all high performance 4-stroke enduros.

>>16235357
yz250fx is in usa i believe. how is it on the trails?

>>16235362
What applies?
I was saying that no matter what bike, it is capable of doing things you would never dream of doing on it so why does it really matter?

They all out class the common man, especially if it is someone that did not grow up riding dirt bikes.

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>>16235379
One of the best bikes i have ever ridden.
tons of power for a 250 (42bhp iirc) and one of the best handling bikes i have ever had the pleasure of riding.
Something about the rear end is just un natural but in a good way, the grip is just there when it shouldn't be.
Yamaha did an A+ job designing that bike.

>>16235401
nice, that's good to hear, i will add it to my list then. it's a hundred dollars cheaper than the wr which is good too. speaking of wr, how wide are the gears?

>>16235414
that one tops out at about 130km/h geared 13/52

>Early fall:
>passing traffic
>late fall, damp roads, temp dropping rapidly, since when did the sun set at 4pm
>holding up traffic

kill me

>>16235135
Bummer!

Needs stator, regulator, bare crimp splices, heatshrink and lots of wire. I note any color changes in my manual. Ebay is cheapest way to get good wiring supplies. Local industrial suppliers like Fastenal are quickest if you need shit instantly or overnight but cost more.

I buy kits like these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200Pcs-Copper-Butt-Splice-Connector-22-10AWG-Bare-Tinned-Crimp-Terminal-W-Case-/112173914111?hash=item1a1e1617ff:g:maAAAOSw44BYCIzT

Get some decent crimpers. Chop Cult has some good wiring threads.

>>16235336
For cheap, VERY effective, but ugly rain gear it's hard to beat old US military two piece rubberized green rain suits. You can find them on Ebay. They look like a giant green turd but they keep most of the water off and are windproof.

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>>16235445
>tfw sunset is 8:45 pm

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>>16235480
>tfw sunset is 5pm

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>>16235520
>good roads have zero lighting
>chip and seal pavement provides questionable traction when wet since everything washes all over the road and fills the cracks instead of washing off the road
>DEER

>>16235520
Do you live in one of the countries where day light savings makes no sense?

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Motorcycles

>>16235280
gsxr a shit

>>16235547
You mean all of them?

>>16235547
Yup

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>>16235548
yeah

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>>16235548
sledercycle

>>16235520
>tfw dark by 430 here

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>>16235548
>implying motorcycles

>>16235551
It actually makes sense in Victoria.

Without it during summer the sun would not come up until about 9am and in winter the sun would be up at around 5am

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>>16235557
>probably going to freeze tonight
>No chance of snow
Damn it.

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>>16235474
I'll check that out. I have a US surplus goretex jacket which is huge, could fit over my riding jacket but I haven't tested it yet.

I feel like a twat riding around in the rain as it is so I can throw looks out the window. If I had one.

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>>16235572
we have all the fixins for snow, except the cold part

>>16235624
Ima get one of these or a KTM 1190 Adventure S.

I can't fucking wait.

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>>16235634
so why dont you have one yet?

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>>16235634
Get a 950 SE ya pussy

Are these mirrors a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbpv5TIVKg8
>tfw no ipods in my mirrors

>>16235671
yes

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>>16233943
>>16233959
>tfw klx
Also rode the exc 500 and it vibrates more than a high quality vibrator and has more torque than really anything else. Fun in its own ways I guess.

>>16235671
on a scale of drz to wr450, they are wr450, a full meme

>>16235728
a bad meme?

>>16235731
hell yeah

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>>16235727
>tfw KLX

>>16235692
>>16235671
I think it's something you'd actually have to see in person before you made a decision about how well they would really work. Seeing a wide angle view directly behind you actually sounds kinda neat.

>>16235727
Not 140 tho :*(

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>>16235706
>her legs look like they bend backwards

>>16235614
If you generously Scotchgard the Goretex it works better.

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>>16235743
Klx best comfy bike.
>>16235768
300 is the middle brother its the best brother.

>>16235787
How are the klx250s and 300s?
My CL has a 2009 250 with 8000miles for $2k

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>>16235790
well I have the 300r and I think its more of really one off little quirks I dislike. But as for a normal klx 300 id still say the 250s are the better bet now days and are damn good too. Id only go klx 300 if you want more power to do shit with like track or blasting through trails like a mad man.

>waiting for windshield to arrive
>waiting for bike stand to arrive
guys I'm excited

>>16235833
>plans to repaint bike and refinish headers
>only 20 more days until i don't have to keep it rideable 24/7

soon

I put in Lucas Oil Stabilizer in my bike, did I fuck up? It's not the "motorcycle" type either.

>>16235867
Why did you use it? It probably won't really do much. If you're worried just dump the oil and feel better about it. Maybe it'll cause clutch slip or the bike will sound fucked on a cold start but unless you used a LOT of it it's probably not a big deal.

>>16235867
Depends on the bike. If engine and clutch share oil it may lube your clutches friction plates too much causing slippage.

IMO as a mechanic Lucas is a too heavy for anything but an older Harley or similar hot running aircooled engine. Just follow your service manual recommendations, only going with heavier oil at very high miles.

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>>16235867
>do thing
>ask if it was okay later

>>16235867
bike is fucking fucked m8

>>16235913
>Why did you use it?
Wanting to give my engine a "treat". Misinformation until it was already too late.

>Maybe it'll cause clutch slip or the bike will sound fucked on a cold start but unless you used a LOT of it it's probably not a big deal.

Slip to what degree? If I didn't put a lot in (maybe 4-6 oz). The responses I'm getting are making me fucking nervous.

>>16235924

I have an older '86 sport bike.
What constitutes "very high miles"?

>>16235928
Misinformation breeds mistakes.

>>16235957
Are you just trying to fuck with me or are you being serious? Please do not fuck with me right now.

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If I have already added oil, should I just flush it out and add new oil? I have to go to work tomorrow too, shit. If I only added a little, do you think it's okay?

>>16235982
Just sell your bike and buy a GS500

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>>16235998
You absolute cock queen, don't rustle my jimmies right now.

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>>16235982
>I have an older '86 sport bike.
I miss my older 86 sport bike ;_;

>>16236006
You're right, you should invest in a Suzuki DRZ400SM, it will last forever.

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>>16236019

>>16235982
sorry for your bike m8. i hope it dosent damage the oil seals and gaskets

>>16235982
>(maybe 4-6 oz).

Fuck it, I'd leave it in if your engine is a typical four cylinder since a few ounces isn't much. "Very high miles" would be over 50-60K.

If you'd gone nuts and put a quart of Lucas in, that would be different and much thicker overall.

If your engine doesn't sound "loose" or smoke (a puff now and then is fine) just run recommended oil unless you live somewhere very hot.

Don't overthink oil. Having enough of it is the main concern since engines are quite tolerant otherwise.

>>16235982
It probably won't do anything. It's just snake oil anyway. Top up your oil to the max level with proper oil to help dilute it. Clutch slip would likely be at peak power or a bit harder to take off from a stop but still rideable. Try riding it before you must go to work just in case... If you're going to lose sleep just dump the oil and use the bike oil it asks for.

If you really want to give your engine a treat then give it fresh oil specified for your bike.

>>16236022
Lucas won't fuck with seals or gaskets as it's basically a thickener.

>>16236019
>it will last forever.

"Last" of course, does not imply "run" forever.

>>16236043
but that's exactly how i intended it.

>>16236036
ive seen it happen m8. stupid faggot added that shit to an old cb400 and weak later it started leaking a little oil until you know what.

>>16236019
>you should invest in a Suzuki DRZ400SM,

If you put a you a Suzuki DRZ400SM engine in a KTM, which happens first? Engine failure or frame snap?

>>16236029
>Fuck it, I'd leave it in if your engine is a typical four cylinder since a few ounces isn't much.
It has a V4 engine. So you think I'd be fine? I could just top it up with more oil in the near future?

>If your engine doesn't sound "loose" or smoke (a puff now and then is fine)
I put seafoam in my gas tank too, so I'll likely see the smoke as well. I feel so stupid. I'm scared for my baiku.

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>>16236032
I'll get some oil after work, thanks. Any recommendations?
>If you're going to lose sleep just dump the oil and use the bike oil it asks for.
What if I just top it up a bit? I need to get more oil anyway (I made a typo in my other post saying I added oil, I meant to say stabilizer).

>>16236054
Might have been the cb400. I've run Lucas or STP mixed with lighter weight oil in my Shovelheads when I couldn't get 70 weight. No seal issues. I also used Lucas at a used car lot. (Their automatic transmission additive works surprisingly well.)

>>16236058
IDK but I do know that if you put a Suzuki DRZ400SM engine in a Suzuki DRZ400SM frame it becomes a godbike.

>>16236063
Seafoam is harmless. BTW if you suspect water in your fuel you can always drain the tank and replace with fresh petrol.

>>16236082
My dad used it on his old jeep and older american cars way back.

>>16236082
Jap bikes have smaller lubricaction passages that can get clogged up, cause leaks or suffer from lubrication problems and what not.

>>16236063
Sure top it up it'll just dilute it and make the lucas do even less. The lucas stuff is only a problem for some people because they add so much they have 3/4 lucas and 1/4 oil left in their shitbox that's already dying.
As far as picking oil... just get which oil weight the manufacturer recommends, make sure it is specific for motorcycles, and apparently older bikes are best with a semi-synthetic or non-synthetic oil, something to do with the clutch material and oil passage design I guess. I think aside from the unbranded/too cheap oil the branding doesn't matter as much as replacing the oil regularly.

>seafoam
aren't you supposed to add that to the fuel slowly as you let the engine run? IDK I don't use it, just follow the instructions closely I guess, I've heard of people using it with success but I think tearing down and cleaning and replacing parts in the fuel lines/carbs/etc every few years and regular air & fuel filter changes is more worthwhile.

>dont fix what aint broke
>do your regular maintenance

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No worries m8 she's put on some miles since that pic

>>16235644
Fuggggggggggggh I want dat.
>>16235656
Dude I thought about it, but let's be honest. I'm a pussy and want my big fucking windshield and creature comforts and panniers and shit for commuting and doing long distances of boring ass pavement.

https://youtu.be/6XsnzreCoLg

>>16236114
>Jap bikes have smaller lubricaction passages that can get clogged up, cause leaks or suffer from lubrication problems and what not.

That's babble, and I've been working on Jap bikes I got since my first Honda in 1978. Their passages or anything else aren't special, though the've been consistently well-designed and had quality casting and machining from the start. Keep oil of reasonably close to factory spec in them and they all last a long time.

>>16236146
>I think tearing down and cleaning and replacing parts in the fuel lines/carbs/etc every few years and regular air & fuel filter changes is more worthwhile.

The vast majority of required carb cleaning is due to owners neglecting their bike and letting it sit until the fuel deteriorates which doesn't take long with ethanol fuels.

Want a motorcycle to last a long time? RIDE IT and keep up with periodic maintenance, but mostly ride it.

Buy and read the factory service manual if possible, or a Haynes/Clymer/Chilton if not.