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>/dbt/ map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=z7CKLSFiJH_M.kMZoQpBOKipI
>Motorcycle Ergonomics Simulator
http://cycle-ergo.com/
>Noob? Read this:
>>10361928
>Webms with sound
>>>/wsg/1324684
>Previously on /dbt/
>>16038224
>>16041528
Meanwhile Rossi cant even make it into QP2 at Phillip island.
>>16041534
he was 2nd on grid but got lap deleted iirc??
WHY WOULD YOU ADD THE MEME ARROWS IN FRONT OF EVERYTHING AGAIN I FIXED IT IN THE LAST OP REEEEEEEEEEE
>>16041536
meme chevrons belong
posting learner m.c club
>>16041535
no he was in second in Free practice 1 and got his lap time deleted for running 11 laps on tyres with a 10 lap limit (for safety).
In FP3 he didn't manage a fast enough time to be into Q2 which means he had to finish in the top 2 in Q1 in order to progress to Q2, he got shit on by crutchlow and lorenzo (rossi fans have spent the entire second half of this year bitching about lorenzo's wet pace and he outdoes rossi lmao) and is starting 15th on the grid tomorrow.
he won't stay there very long mind you if it's a properly dry race tomorrow but it's pretty funny.
>>16041536
so that they are hyperlinks ya goon?
without them you have to copy/paste the links....
>>16041557
> Rossi is so shit he literally has to cheat to get a good qualifying time
Yamahaahahahahahaha my ass. This is why Marquez is the WORLD CHAMPION.
HONDA A BEST.
>Noob? Read this:
That should be removed sometime and replaced with the buying guide only until someone can compile a solid list of beginner bikes along with advice for starting on those particular bikes from verified riders.
It's terribly vague advice that can leave new riders cucked, or as forumites call it, "forced to learn" (spoilers: if you have no initiative, you stay as slow as your bike), and says nothing about which bike could actually be the best for you and why. So we're left with a bunch of newbies posting craigslist links asking "NINJER FIVE HUNNED OR SV650 GUYS?" and getting shitty answers.
Surely, we can do better than various motorcycle forums that just say "ninja 250, lol" and call it a day. Broader selection, more detailed advice, less displacement/power related hysteria.
>>16041564
>rossi fans made endless memes about jorge not being able to ride in the rain
>xD never seen a "shark" that doesn't like the water before
>btfos old italian cunt
love it
>>16041565
>solid list of beginner bikes
it exists, no one ever uses it though.
>>16041563
That's wrong you fucking idiot. Hyperlinks (to the map, or the cycle ergo sim) are hyperlinks regardless of > symbols. 4chan links, sure.
It just bothers me that everything in the OP is either blue or green, it looks shit. The paragraph with the Motorcycle X list should be green, links blue and the rest black (link descriptions and header).
>>16041572
>rides well in rain once
>wet race god
is rossi's return due to his tax evasion conviction in italy? did he mismanage his money and have nothing left to live on after he paid off the italian gov't? did he not have enough to pay them back in the first place? it would make sense.
>>16041577
have you ever thought maybe he does it just to piss you off?
>>16041577
who fucking cares
>>16041574
maybe because there are no fucking words
>>16041578
>once
Hello newfriend, I know you've only watched like 2 races (although you just know you're a rossi fan 4 lyfe!!!) but jorge has won several races in the wet before.
he's always done fine in the wet, it's just the michelin wets he's got a bit of trouble with (for the moment).
>>16041595
What words do you want, the bike names are there, if you want to know more about one of them google the bike and look at reviews.
>>16041600
Reasons, pros, cons
Infographics gotta spoonfeed man
>>16041603
Well i aint doing that shit, i put the list together, someone else can put descriptions under the bikes.
>>16041603
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/new-riders/391524-looking-beginner-bike-look-no-further.html
when i have time i might steal this guys list and updated it with some other bikes too
Evening dbt, what work have you poofs done on your bikes lately?
Did a full service on the 300 this afternoon, new air filter and a new power valve cover as well
>>16041619
old power valve cover
>>16041619
>300
na fuck off ya fucken pussy ass nonce cunt m8
>>16041624
I would honestly enjoy watching you try to ride it for even 15 minutes, i imagine you would get off it either near death from exhaustion or it would spit you off and you would be near death from injuries.
>>16041591
It's working.
>>16041634
I noticed.
reminder that honda a shit
Anybody else stunned by the genius of the triumph bobber?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a stupid piece of shit but this is gonna sell fucking gangbusters to it's target audience of aesthetically obsessed impressionable nu males.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS2VZPYhHSY
just look at that.
>looks like a bobber
>actually has suspension
>triumph has retro cred
>engine will be better than anything put it any harley ever
gonna make a big mark I can tell.
>>16041664
kinda sad that new bikes made to be inferior from the word go out sell bikes that people back then would have killed for.
>>16041664
R Nine T Racer > Bonneville Bobber
>>16041671
it's gonna be really weird when manufacturers are making retro electric bikes.
>>16041664
still better than a GS500
>>16041596
he was bad on the bridgestones 2 m8
>>16041677
that's a very silly comparison, the Thruxton R is the competition there, not the bobber.
>>16041565
Because it's easy
Ninja 250/sv650/wr125/ybr125
It's not difficult, m8
Plus the first thing we ask whenever a noob shows up is
>what do you wanna do with it?
And
>what style tingles your dingle?
>>16041683
how long have you been watching motoGP.
Be honest now, no lies.
It's either not very long or you have amnesia.
>>16041671
Inferior for what?
You're not one of those "we should all be riding sportbikes with touring ergonomics" types, are you?
>>16041619
>new gold chain
>new hand guards
>new clutch perch
>new levers
>bidding on fcr carb
>>16041685
Eh, both are new vintage styled bikes for 2017. Similar markets both appeal mostly to aesthetics.
>>16041686
>ninja 250
>wr125
>ybr125
These are city/canyon bikes. "Where do you live and what do you drive on?" is a pretty fucking big factor. If someone said "i have a 30 minute highway commute to get to any leisure roads and want to DD a bike to work and back" I wouldn't recommend a ninja 250, or a ninja 650. Probably a used versys.
>>16041689
well I mean in the case of the triumph bobber it's a pretty solid point, you could make this point about a lot of bikes but in the case of the bobber it's very literally a case of making the bike deliberately worse to satisfy retro aesthetics.
They had to split the airbox into 2 pieces because they're hiding the shock away under the seat making it smaller and less effective.
The suspension travel will likely be shorter and overall efficacy of the rear suspension will likely be lower than if they'd gone with a non invisible solution.
and it doesn't have a passenger seat now.
Though I suppose the bike it's based off is dual shock with no linkage anyway so it's no great downgrade.
>>16041701
>YBR125
>"canyon bike"
>>16041706
bikelets fucking love hillside roads. this is a fact. it's the only place they can pass squids on liter peters.
>>16041702
Did Triumph out Softail the Softail?
>>16041701
>city
>canyon
Stop talking out of your arse
There are grampas that routinely go on the freeway on 250 scoots, my unblocked 125 could skim 100
Also the ninja 650, er6n/f and versys are literally the same bike, you spastic
>>16041711
of course they did, that's why I call it genius.
They have successfully built a bike that'll give you all of the look the nu males crave with almost none of the downsides.
As much as I just went on about suspension travel, this will have more suspension travel than a harley sportster does (they have 1.5 inches on the rear)
I can guarantee KKK likes this bike, and there are a lot of KKKs out there.
>>16041712
>going on the highway
>not being able to easily add 30+mph to your speed at any time
disgraceful
>same bike
different suspension, ergonomic setup, and engine tuning
>>16041716
>there are alot of kkks out there
What a terrifying thought
>>16041716
but numales don't want to look like their dads/grandads
>>16041574
>SXV
>Beginner
It's litteraly a SM for race use but street legal, the maintenance is really expensive and you have to build yourself an encyclopedia to know all the stuff about the engine who can break and how to fix it.
>>16041718
>different suspension
Only on the versus and completely useless (if not detrimental) on the street
>ergonomico setup
Actually not really, unless the us spec has rearsets, but i don't think so
>engine tuning
Not really, the only difference is that there are a LAMS spec, us spec and yuro spec
>30 mph bullshit
Just stay in the slow lane doing 85 to 110 with the other shitboxes
>>16041725
This
Also definitely add the SMV and SL
>>16041724
yes they kinda do, to them it represents some bygone era of james dean esque masculinity they hope to tap into to fill the void of their effeminate lives.
It's as nu male as it gets.
>>16041725
>he cant get an sxv registered in his country
It's a LAMS bike so it must be for learners, the government knows all about motorcycles uleh
>>16041733
>trying to be more masculine is actually feminine
the jews did this
>>16041740
It's not trying to be masculine, it's emulating the appearance of masculinity without doing anything masculine. Believing that masculinity is about how you look above all else (which is feminine)
up to you if you want to call it nu-male or not but you can choose your term, pathetic, bitchmade, nu-male, they all fit imo.
>>16041740
oh, and you wanna take a guess what bikes women like to ride the most?
hee hee heeeeeeee
>>16041748
Or maybe it's completing the appearance of masculinity because riding a plastic-covered bike associated with manlet italians and covered in flashy consumerist decals and logos doesn't fit with your alt-right, trump-voting, firewood chopping, service industry-eschewing, deer hunting, jerking-off-all-alone-because-women-are-only-good-for-prostitution lifestyle.
>>16041752
choppers and bedazzled sportbikes
>>16041752
They don't ride
Look at them, this is clearly a photoshoot
I know 2 women who ride (3 if we count ybr) and none of them are stupid enough to go out with that loose denim jacket, glasses dangling off their shirt's neck...
Plus look at their body language
They're sitting way too close to the tank, 2 have their hands nowhere near the controls, the other is far away from the throttle
They are uncomfortable, a bit scared and out of their element, but are trying their best to seem alright, if not competent
TL;dr don't do psychology
>>16041758
>right
>millennial hipster figure
The right is boring, square and rational
Image is however cherished quite dearly by the libsoc youth
>>16041774
Rational is not covering a bike that will rarely exceed 70mph in aerodynamic plastics that interfere with basic maintenance or investing in complex performance systems that you will never use, especially not on a DD that no sane man would ever thrash on a track
Rational is buying an actual retro bike to commute instead of a new bike that looks retro, as they are fairly convenient to maintain independently and have an ever growing parts base as less cared for machines are parted out, but /dbt/ would shit on that too because image is cherished by you libsoc youth and you should never, ever look like a "numale"
>>16041762
they do ride.
They're just pathetic.
Like most cafe racer owners.
>think about buying another bike for next season
>New F4RR msrp $26,999
>that's panigale 1199R money
When will mv give their sportbikes a new facelift? I'm assuming its because low sales and not enough money for RnD.
then there's this little odd looking thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCZpzyYuXIY
>>16041785
>I'm assuming its because low sales and not enough money for RnD
uhhh
http://www.bikeonline.com.au/2016/03/25/mv-agusta-applies-for-bankruptcy/
and i dunno if you know this but the guy who created the F4 (and basically all of MVs modern design DNA in the process) died.
MV need to build better bikes basically.
The F3 675 gets shit on by the Triumph 675
The F3 800 gets shit on by the 959 and gsx-r750
the F4 1000s don't have a fucking chance against bikes like the S1000RR and RSV4 RR.
And yet...they all cost more than the competition.
Don't get me wrong, I really want to ride an F3 800 just to try it out, but MV need to do something about their sportbike lineup if they're gonna continue on selling them, "pretty damn good" doesn't fly in a world of exceptional bikes.
Their naked bikes are their focus right now.
I rode a scooter today...
it was... really nice.
the centre of gravity was so low that at low speeds it was easy as fuck to control, it was so comfortable i didn't feel stiff at all after almost an hour of riding,
I'm not sure it'd be great on the highway, you get a lot of wind on your chest, but for the city where the max speed you can ride is 60kph... is anything bigger than a 125 really needed? I'll keep riding full motorbikes on the highway but scooters are just... fun and comfy.
what scooter should I get? just a 125 for the city is all i need.
>>16041785
>When will mv give their sportbikes a new facelift?
When people will finally stop buying their shit.
>>16041807
depends, is storage space important to you? how many dildos will you be hauling daily?
>>16041812
>how many dildos will you be hauling daily?
I'm a top
>>16041807
>falling for the "all i need" meme
>not being prepared for varying situations
sure is nu-male in here
>>16041815
how many strap-ons will you be hauling daily, needledong?
>>16041807
>Guys i love my RSV4 RR and Ninja H2R but i tested "a" scooter and i literally jerked out sperm of my penis ! i can't believe it! Also i totally do not take the bus.
>Btw can YOU please tell me what scooter do I need ?
>>16041819
post leans
>>16041825
you won't find go-kart tracks outside of, well, go-kart tracks
sorry
>>16041831
that's not a lean buddy
>>16041832
>>16041838
>>16041824
oh well, i guess scooter riders are just better than you after all.
>>16041844
in what way is this cool?
>>16041785
When they perform the necessary sacrifices to Belzebub to return Massimo Tamburini to the mortal world
>>16041851
...show us something better then anon! That's all I ask.
if scooters riders are so gay this should be easy.
>>16041856
>>16041844
>guys, you can do lightweight motorcycle things on a scooter!
that's because a scooter is a lightweight motorcycle
you missed the point
you will eventually find yourself wanting a larger, more capable machine. more power to haul more cargo, to go faster, whatever. always buy slightly above your daily needs so you don't have to make a second purchase when your life changes.
>>16041858
>>16041858
something that's you anon, you're the one making the claims about scooters here.
>>16041862
and youre the one who think scootsies and cat ear helmets are cool. kinda proving my case here bud
>>16041868
t. a nobike
>>16041862
oh you are that 70's japanese guy ?
You say scooter are cool yet post nothing because you ride the bus and basically just shitpost the same webm every thread
>>16041862
nobody said they weren't as manueverable as motorcycles, only that they were low power niche machines. really, scooters are the choice of poor and displacement-taxed people who have nary a buck for panniers. as capable as light cycles with panniers attached, but cheaper.
in the end nothing compares to a real motorcycle
>>16041868
epic trolling
>>16041867
Why won't you just post a lean? Surely you can do better than these needledick scooter owners!
>>16041877
still waiting for YOUR scooter webm.
>>16041876
>>16041873
I bet you cuckold nu-males think that jet skis are motorcycles for water. Just kys faggots.
>>16041877
Why don't you use your brain? Nobody thinks scooters can't turn. What scooters normally don't do is produce decent power until you get into "gay looking goldwing" territory.
>>16041881
Why is it so hard to post your bike though?
>>16041879
I don't ride a scooter.
I haven't shit on any bikes nor called anyone a busrider yet, that's all you guys but yet you have nothing to prove you don't ride the bus.
Really makes you think, huh?
>>16041886
nice cafe racer faggot
>>16041886
>>16041881
>>16041868
>>16041862
>>16041856
>>16041844
>>16041838
>>16041832
>>16041825
>Say scooters are cool by posting japanese lean from 80's
>Don't accept all the crazy shit bikes does in webm because it's not the poster's webm.
>>16041887
Why are you so bent on defending scooters? You would let people make fun of 250cc cruisers all day long.
>>16041888
Did you just call my anime girls learner bike a cafe racer?
Let's dissect how this started
Post one:
>>16041819
"A scooter might not be enough for the road ahead"
Post two:
>>16041825
has absolutely fucking nothing to do with that
are we easily trolled?
>>16041890
I just wanna know why /dbt/ loves throwing stones in glass houses so much.
if you guys are so gosh dang good and scooter riders are so shit why can't you show me how good you are?
If everyone else is a nobike, why can't you show me your bike?
>>16041893
sick cafe racer sire. mayhaps i ask is that a royal enfield?
>>16041897
>are we easily trolled?
Yes.
dbt is one of the easiest threads to troll if you know what to post.
Generally takes getting in the mind of what people here would consider a retard, so someone who wants to buy a scooter, or maybe something thinking about a bobber.
Sometimes you can ask a stupid mechanical maintenance question to cause the shitstorm.
Does dbt seem less fun now?
Why the fuck don't italian stick a turbo on their bike ?
An Aprilia matching the H2 cost like, $110 FUCKING K and is basically build on demand... FFS wake up spaghetti!
>>16041893
>>16041886
That other anon can fuck himself. This is my fucking gixxer still faster than your dads piece of numale Honda cuckboi bike.
>>16041899
>scooter riders are so shit
who said this
link to the post
*unsheaths katana*
i'll kick their ass
>>16041904
Is brake cleaner good for cleaning my chain?
>>16041890
Scooters aren shit you fucking nigger loving cuckold hillary supporter.
>>16041913
use kerosene to clean, and wax to lube.
>>16041913
Its only good if it a o-ring chain
>>16041906
post tendies
>>16041918
I bet you also use a black bull to get the job done, cuckboi.
>>16041862
>needing a motor
>/dbt/ gets asked to back up their shittalk
>lose their shit
every time
>>16041918
>not lubing your chain with vasoline
Any alternatives to a z300 as my first bike?
Preferably the naked style.
For a 20min commute in the UK and for general fun on B Roads?
Motorcycles are just mid-engined scooters
scooter = RR
motorcycle = MR
RR is more patrician so clearly scooters are for the most talented riders. inb4 MR fanboys. can you handle a ruf CTR better than an MR2? no you fucking can't. same concept.
>>16041927
>Needing wheels
>>16041933
Z650
Mt07
Mt09
Sv650
Z800
Cb650
>>16041918
Use WD40 to clean and lube
>>16041932
clean, sure. lube, no.
>>16041783
>rarely exceed 70mph
>>16041949
meant for >>16041947
>>16041937
>needing feet
>>16041941
I think I'm looking to keep it under 500cc for weight and maneuverability reasons.
I live in Nottingham, England and the roads are all small and twisty with a lot of traffic.
>>16041975
Too much reddit it in your blood, trust me bikes over 300cc are still gonna go around corners anon
>>16041975
ahhhh so a kx500 it is then?
>>16041975
Duke 390 or cb 500 f
>>16041975
You want something high up that can easily be thrown around. So it's dual-sports and enduro's. Maybe the light adventure bikes.
how many crashed anons this month?
>>16041975
Selection kind of sucks for mid-range bikes in the UK (or EU in general) due to the licensing system: Tons of 125s for people on CBTs, a handful of maximum-limit-of-A2 bikes and restricted bikes, and then 650+ and a bunch of litre bikes for those on unrestricted licenses. There's a yawning chasm of fuck-all between 125cc and 500cc.
>>16041980
10/10 would bone
street legal 500cc 2 stroke motard
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
>>16042057
What countries other than Australia and New Zealand are you allowed to get a kx500 registered in?
>>16042077
That's only a problem for the Amerifats. Elsewhere the only limit is for brand new production 2-strikes (i.e. not able to meet emissions standards), there's no limits on having a road-legal 2-stroke (mirrors, lights, seat, footpegs) for riders,
>>16042093
to pass emissions standards they just run modern 2 strokes at like 60:1 oil ratios and have them running lean
>>16042077
>What countries other than Australia and New Zealand are you allowed to get a kx500 registered in?
You can in 3 other fucking continent : All Asia, All Europe, All south america
what's wrong with cafe racers anons?
I know they are not hardcore sports bikes, but if they can be fun and look cool, what's the problem?
Who fancies some chicken tendies?
Alpinestars boots, yes or no?
Pretty disillusioned with the brand by their gloves but the boots seem alright. Dainese doesn't offer anything to my liking and I can't fit into spidi's.
>>16042190
A* a best
>>16042190
My alpinestars gloves fell apart after about a year (gloves don't seem to last no matter what, I've heard kangaroo gloves last longer) but I'd buy their boots again in a heartbeat.
>>16042122
you think you will look a certain way riding one, but you won't
it's a baseless trend, initially taken up by well heeled gen X'ers with flash ducatis etc. Nowadays it's all weedy white dude on beat to shit old 250s.
There's "nothing wrong" with people wearing fursuits either - wouldn't catch me dead doing it but.
>>16042122
if we go by fun and looks for objective ratings you may as well have no ratings at all
in the end you're paying 5k bucks for a nice looking GS500
>>16042190
I have them. They are comfy.
>>16042122
>unironically posting kitkat's bike
>mfw above average
>>16042199
Eh
>>16042201
Quality controls isn't up to par in my experience. .€200 gloves with dodgy seams, half punched out holes etc.
But that's good to hear, worth shelling out a bit more for the waterproof version? Or just go for the entry level smx 6
>>16042243
What about durability?
>>16042254
>tfw above all those averages
lol small dick eurocucks
>>16042254
Lelling at germany's general direction
>>16042259
depends on your climate, if it's hot most of the time I'd probably get the perforated ones.
>>16042267
cold and wet.
>>16042259
>What about durability?
Can't say. Only bought them in February. They survived a crash though.
>>16042202
I don't fucking care how I'll look, I like them. As everything, it can be done well or poorly.
>>16042206
I don't see the problem in having a bike which is fun to ride and looks good to me.
>>16042250
picked at random.
Idk guys, in the end it is people restoring old bikes that would have rotten otherwise and putting performance mods on it (ok, more or less).
They are good, bad and worse examples, but we have suffered worse things and survived.
>>16042325
>As everything, it can be done well or poorly.
so fursuiting can be done well?
>>16042325
>i don't care how i'll look
>i want a bike mainly because aesthetics
>fun to ride
They are not
They are perfectly ok bikes with gutted seats, shoddy suspension and shitty wheels
>restoring
No it's not
Restomodders do that and they don't hammer in tanks, remove airboxes and ruin ridability in the name of looks
Stance does that
Performance mods are nonexistent in the cafè scene BECAUSE thay are riding half rotten deathtraps that they themselves made even more dangerous by hacksawing the frame
Pic related is how it's done
Look at that boner inducing shine, that comfy seat, those totally deserved racing pretensions
There are no ridiculous spoked wheels, no ww1 tier tyres, the engine isn't gasping for air in k&n tumors
>>16041619
>Taller bars
>Handguards
Probably get a kit to turn the 250 into a 350 and then a comfier seat.
>>16041664
Triumph are copying classic Triumphs, not custom Triumphs. Vintage Triumph and HDs are what everyone else copies.
Calling it a bobber when the bike isn't bobbed (those are full length fenders, words mean things) IS genius.
Marketing to people who don't know much is an art. Words don't NEED to mean things, just evoke emotions.
bunch of no talent hacks
>>16041733
James Dean didn't play masculine characters, he played effeminate nu-males. Watch the movies. He played a little bitch. So did Marlon Brando in The Wild Ones. Lee Marvin played something more like a biker but had to lose to nu-Brando.
In the same era, real men were racing "bobbed" motorcycles Bobbing (which preceded and is not "chopping") was highly functional, it reduced weight and made maintenance, which was constant, easier. Riding wasn't easy so fatal crashes were frequent.
>>16041740
Masculinity is what you do, not what you cosplay.
Triumph also sell to people who rode and often still own the originals and want an updated version. Many of them also own modern sportbikes and ADV machines. The common denominator is they don't care for piggy tourers. They have the money so they also buy KTMs. KTM offer test rides at Barber Vintage for good reason. http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/video-ktm-ambassador-chris-fillmore-rips-up-the-barber-vintage-motorcycle-festival-with-three-different-ktms/
I almost got smidsy'd (in my car though) today at 90 km/h. I really don't want to know what would have happened had I been on my motorcycle.
>>16042364
I suppose, but I don't like it. Anyway I assume they are better and worse qualities.
>>16042372
You are arging against your topic.
There are assholes in the scene, a lot of them if you want. And you can hate it all you want.
I understand that its not the same as in the 60s, there are much cheaper options to go fast. But I like the idea of choosing an old bike, putting in it decent tires and clip ons, make it fun to ride and nice to look at and just enjoy it.
Obviously you are free to dislike it. Ciuldn't care less.
>>16042492
Just went around the Yorkshire Dales, this place is fuckin perfect for bikers
>endless empty twisty roads all for myself
>amazing scenery
>small cafes and villages dotted everywhere if I want to stop and rest
10/10 doing it again tomorrow.
>>16042122
Real vintage British, Italian or a very few custom Jap bikes where the mods were and remain performance upgrades, nothing. They are like classic cars.
Some junk shitbox with clubman bars and no performance (as measured against same era machines) is as laughable as a poorly done chopper.
Cafe racers are why modern sportbikes exist, but like bobbers which were also functional are now just modern folk art. The nicely done CX in the pic is folk art. Fine if you like folk art, but /dbt/ is ONLY about performance and nothing old performs by modern standards. They are docile, reliable and pleasant to commute on and there's not much to break if you drop one.
You are asking for vehicle advice in a racing thread. WTF did you expect?
>>16042492
>smidsy'd
What?
>>16042487
For the record James Dean career started with gay porn. Fits perfectly.
>>16042508
>putting in it decent tyres
They don't
They fit stupid white walled dinosaurs or dirt tyres
>clip ons
Putting them on a bike not designed for them is a pain, they're cramped, they'll fuck up your tank and are not at all needed in a 90's standard that's missing half the pieces
Restoring old bikes is a wonderful thing, chopping them up and LITERALLY GUTTING THE AIRBOX is not
>>16042579
>Cafe racers are why modern sportbikes exist, but like bobbers which were also functional are now just modern folk art. They are docile, reliable and pleasant to commute on and there's not much to break if you drop one.
I agree. They are nice commuters and maybe something to go for a relaxed/slightly spirited ride on weekends.
> /dbt/ is ONLY about performance
I thought it was about motorbikes.
>>16041574
no 250cc bikes.(4 stroke)
/dbt/ will say it's for 3rd world countries
>>16041574
>kawasaki gs500
>>16042606
> hurr durr somebody does something I do not like.
I dare to say not everything you have done to your bike has been with only performance in mind. Moreover, probsbly a riding lesson would have made you faster than 99% of your mods.
>>16042617
Only the fags here say that
>>16042625
I have done little to no mods, except to make my bike more comfy, since i primarily tour on it or hoon in the city
I am entirely self taught and admittedly not that good of a rider, but i have a bike and i'm enjoying myself...
>>16042632
nice bike. But you could have bought something faster for the money. Why didn't you? because aesthetics/sound/whatever. And its not bad to do it.
I say let everybody ride however the fuck they want. Just have fun and that's it.
>>16041933
I got Z250sl and I wish I had Z300 I i drive 4 times a week for 30 min with out problems.
I think you should stay with the Z but here are alternatives
MT03
DUKE 390
bmw r310g
you can alos buy limited MT07 or SV650.
>>16042636
>you could have bought blah blah blah
I don't want something faster
I want maybe an f800
And the vultus
And the vulcan
And a sidecar
And that one fat guzzi
I like comfy barges and that's ok
The issue here is taking your pop's learner bike, ruining it and pretending it's suddenly better because 70's raecbiek
>>16042589
"Sorry mate, I didn't see ya"
it's when someone takes a turn while you are travelling on the lane he's turning into
I'm pretty sure I would have killed his wife and maybe myself and my passenger had I hit him and not swerved
Im buying a bike for $1700. Its my first so I want something that I wouldnt be too upset about if something got scratched or broken. Currently my options are an 09 cbr250, 06 Katana, 03 katana, and maybe an SV650 (it might be sold already). I'm going for the SV first but if it doesnt work out I'm most likely getting a Katana. Tell me how bad I'm fucking up
I'm really struggling to go fast enough on my 125.
It can just about reach 60 on the flat, but up a hill it doesn't have a chance.
>>16042653
How the fuck can he not see you when you're on the main road in the fucking countryside?
>>16042644
You like comfy barges and that's ok, but it's not ok if somebody likes something different because you consider their bike is shit and they cannot mod it.
I can agree with you in that I prefer mods performance oriented, and would prefer if people centered their cafe restomods in epoch compliant performance.
But people here act like they are street racers that only care about speed while most of them are nobikes.
I bought a bike that is more expensive than what I initially planned, and its slower than what I could have bought, and I don't give a shit. Its fun and its sexy as fuck.
>>16042715
I really, really don't now. I mean I drive a sliver car, I had the lights on, and the sun was not in my back, there was literally 0% chance he could not have seen me
but well, luckily I watched a lot of WRC coverage the day before and my car has ESP, otherwise I would have spun off the road
>>16042698
yuck
what the fuck is that
>>16042699
no shit sherlock
>>16042745
is there anything I can actually do about it?
I can't get a bigger bike because I age restrictions in the UK.
>>16042699
well, you bought a 125, so live with your choice
>>16042743
Still looks better than your mum, fagget!
>>16042698
Check out the bandit 600 as well, can be had for cheap and are great beginner bikes. Plus look 100x better than the katans imo.
>>16042750
Just enjoy the government mandated cucking.
>>16042725
I call bullshit unless you're MV
In which case
>oilpan
>>16042699
Buy a real 125 next time nigger, and don't forget to vote for brexit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lAJLEZm-TI
>>16042764
How does this apply to me? Pretty sure I cant just pop to the store and ask for a bandit 600 for $1700
>>16042808
Wew,
this much retardation before dinner.
It's going to spoil my appetite.
>>16042812
I'm buying from craigslist, I cant tell people what bikes to sell so telling me to get a specific bike isnt going to work
f to pay respects
>>16042826
>took him 6 hours to confess
>>16042826
your tie-down strap skills are incredible
>>16042826
Here's to hoping for a better owner
Sweet dreams, TT
>>16042826
Sold tt?
>>16042829
I was busy
>>16042831
t-thanks you too
R8 my bike
Btw, thanks to the anon who posted about the $15 front wheel stand deal last week. I got it in the other day and it's not bad at all for the price
>>16042784
I've got a Yamaha YBR 125, I thought it's considered one of the best 125s. And I did vote brexit.
The UK government hates anything with 2 wheels anyway so nothing will change when we leave the EU.
>>16042844
>not a wr125
>best 125
lel!!!
>>16042832
this 2bh
>>16042836
it's better this way
the man has the financial supplies and will to rebuild
>>16042855
LMAO nobike.
Gonna buy a ninja?
>>16042698
>Tell me how bad I'm fucking up
They are all reliable enough. Reliability is most important quality in the real world. /dbt/ is all about spending other people's money on hardware the anons giving you advice will not have to use or maintain. Suzukis tend to be simple and tough.
Everything a shit. Now get bike and go ride. Get a fucking factory service manual and learn that machine from axle to axle. That makes you harder to take advantage of and saves mad cash which you can squander on meth, whores, meth whores, or Italian motorcycles. I suggest meth whores as less expensive and more reliable.
Broken bike is bad as nobike because you can't ride it.
>>16042861
wroom
>>16042844
well you bought a 125 sumo instead of a 125 Sport so you kinda knew you weren't going to go 110+ mph like the aprilia.
>>16042698
You aren't really fucking up. The Katana is a perfectly good bike. It's cheap and will give you a good platform to learn maintenance. It's also very reliable. The only reason I would recommend a SV650 over a Katana is you will at least be able to keep the SV650 as a "variety" bike of sorts when you go and get your second bike. I ride a sport bike now and I wish I started on a SV650 so I could have a nice comfy naked bike to ride around too.
>>16042877
Sv not comfy
>>16042875
>aprilia 125
>110mph
Either someone modded the 5th gear on it and made it illegal for learners in UK or it was going down a hill with a tail wind. I am calling bullshit on a 125 going 110mph on flat road.
>>16042844
>And I did vote brexit.
>>16042880
Choke riches the fuel mixture by allowing extra fuel flow or blocking air flow. Throttle lets more air through.
Why is it that holding the throttle open manually interferes with the choke on a 2001 SV650? I thought a choke's function was exactly that, throttle opening, but as a slider instead of handlebar.
I tried to start the bike this morning and it wouldn't because I did the abovementioned. Then an old guy who's dad lives nearby told me that that's the way it works on old cars with chokes. What gives?
>>16042883
The 125 2stroke racebike does 190 kmh
>>16042889
Ah, thank you. I'll keep that in mind next time.
>>16042868
>>16042877
Thanks senpai I appreciate this. I planned on doing my own maintenence anyway. Worked plenty on cars but never bikes. This bike will just be my gateway to hoon for a few months until I get something nice and shiny. Cant wait to ride
>>16042892
No 4-stroke I've ever ridden starts better with the throttle open.
>>16042881
How isn't it comfortable? I thought it was an upright seating position
does anyone have the buying motorcycle chart like on the sticky
>>16042906
>clip ons
>comfy
/dbt/ at it's best
>>16042201
>astars gloves fell apart
that's what you get for buying knockoffs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DftIJD3BdPg
I have 3 pairs of astars gloves (1 pair is 8 years old) and the old pair still looks brand new.
>>16041527
was he paid to crash?
>>16042883
You know An aprilia 125 is comparable to a ninja 300 right?
Most RS 125 go nearly 200kph.
>>16042844
> And I did vote brexit.
wew
> so nothing will change when we leave the EU.
>when
wewwwwwwwww
Christ you uk folks are retarded. I blame all that inbreeding.
>>16042927
>not wanting out of this wild ride
Fucking krauts
>>16042941
>Fucking krauts
the UK says, while receiving the most money out of EU funds in the whole union
>>16042953
Keep shilling for your 4th Reich, retard.
The Uk is leaving, and Netherlands, France and Denmark will follow. Oh and, Trump will get elected.
Get ready for the comeback of nation states.
>>16042953
>receiving
You mean contributing
>>16042964
t. american whose only knowledge about europe comes from breitbart
>>16042919
Old astars is a lot better quality than new astars
>>16042966
oh yes, tell me again with what money all of the universities in your shitty little "kingdom" were built and renovated/improved
>>16042981
Certainly not from the pockets of mr. Soros &co
>>16042986
>mfw the common briton knows this much about the EU
>>16042993
Tell me one tangible benefit of being in the union
I don't care if the big guys upstairs will nave a .1% loss, i mean us poorfags
Who here uses bluetooth to talk to your friends while riding? Not sure what brand to go with but I don't want to break the bank
>>16043000
I'm not going to tell you now what you have learned in all those years of social studies in school
I can't wait for all of those british fucks disappearing out of my city, taking away our university places and apartments
>>16042821
Are you retarded? Enter bandit 600 or gsf600 in the searchbox you fucking knob .
>>16042821
Anyone using heated jackets for winter riding?
>>16043045
>winter riding
how does it feel to be poor?
>>16043015
Niec inglis ye gud
>>16043051
I'm pretty sure my english is a lot better than your german
>>16043045
While its my first year with a bike in the winter I doubt I'll be riding. Once snow is on the ground even once the roads tend to consistently have salt on them
>>16043052
mein knackwurst hiel Hitler
>>16043052
Now, i'm neither posting in german nor in a german forum, am i?
>>16043050
How's it feel to be a garbage weekend warrior?
>>16043050
Beta rider detected
>>16043057
that doesn't change the point that british people are notorious for being stupid and unable to learn other languages
>>16043064
I'm not even british, though
guys can you show me the motorcycle version of this
>>16043068
Yuro/buger/kangaroo?
WR 125
Ybr125
Ninjette
Sv650
>>16043072
burger
>>16043075
drz 400
>>16043075
Remove 125s and add vulcan if you're into cruisers or ninja650 if you can't afford an SV
>>16043072
imagine if we kicked all the colored people out of one of our three great nations and moved all the english-speaking whites in.
>>16043084
we could get the maple leaves too
Is doing about 100 miles on a naked supposed to be quite tiring on the neck and shoulders?
>>16043091
depends on the bike
>>16043091
No unless you're a 40 year old metalworker with 7 hernias
>>16042892
That's sometimes referred to as a choke kickoff.
Choke/enricher (especially enricher which is more reliant on a closed throttle plate to increase vacuum to move fuel through the enricher valve) are partially negated by open throttle.
Opening throttle reduces vacuum which reduces choke/enricher effectiveness BUT you don't want excessive enrichment in normal operation (fouls plugs etc) so the choke kickoff is used.
If you have to run choke or enricher on a motorcycle to get acceptable performance with a WARM engine then suspect clogged low-speed jets or air leak(s) or both if on an ancient yard sitter.
>>16042899
Hoon for more months. Shiny makes you care more about the bike than what you do with the bike.
Clean, unfucked pink peach pussy looks great, but pounding it into a gooey mess is more fun than looking at it.
Should I buy my friends '16 Forty eight?
>>16042190
They're spectacular. Nice and comfy. Even on long rides
How's dbt feel about the valkyrie?
>inb4 cruiser memes
>>16042808
I literally bought one of these, 2001 gsf 600, for $1700 off craigslist
>>16043135
i think that guy is begging to get pounded up the ass. riding around in that position gives big gay bears uncontrollable erections
>>16042964
Highly fucking unlikely.
.t Dutch
>>16043148
Good thing I'm a cum guzzling submissive girly boy
Hallo mein name ist Hans. Du magst mein knackwurst?
>>16043154
leave
>>16043148
True. He does have a sport bike position. I can see why that's considered homosexual
>>16043154
Fuck off Bruce/ Caitlyn
>>>/lbgt/
>>16043169
no, sportbike riding position places too much weight on the wrists to make getting ass fucked really comfortable. with the valkyrie, look at the flex of his arms. less weight on those wrists translates into more arm power available to really take control of a dick and start riding it yourself. the honda valkyrie really gives you the positioning and confidence to become a power bottom.
>>16043183
>tranny
You have the wrong idea friend, I'm a male with the body shape/figure of a female.
>>16043186
>tl;dr
>>16043192
>two lines of text is too long to read
this new generation of kids, i swear m8s
>>16043204
>tl;dr
>>16043204
>tl;dr
>>16043220
>>16042782
wot
>>16043225
>tl;dr
>>16043186
>sportbike riding
>places weight
>on the wrists
Wow, look at this fucking gumbie. I'd like to see you do a smooth U-turn without waddling. Sportbike riding places STRAIN on the legs and lower back. Those are what you use to support your body. Grip the tank, tighten your core, and let your upper extremities move freely. If you are supporting yourself on the handlebars you are seriously compromising your steering ability and it's doubtful you're great at turning when you don't have gyro action to keep you upright and put a damper on the excessive force you apply to the bars.
If you have sore arms instead of a sore back you're a shit rider.
>>16043075
You want starter bikes or good cheap bikes?
Starter bike: Suzuki GS series, parallel twin ninjas (250 is buzzy on highways), SV650
Good cheap bike: Suzuki GSXR series
>>16043262
>trying this hard and being this insecure
top kek 2bqh
>>16043262
bus rider spittin out shit he read on the internet
>>16043280
>Interrupting your homosexual roleplay with facts
>top kek
>>16043288
t. shit rider with weak core muscles from years of letting his sugar daddy handle his ass for him
Jaja das cuckolden ich gib dir mein fraulein jamal
>>16043299
>kkk shit posting
lets see that bike of yours....go take a picture of your neighbours bike and claim its yours
>>16043302
iche liebe die weiner schitzle
>>16043310
ich bin ein doughnut
>>16043309
>tfw recognizable streetfighter hackjob
>tfw DD bike
>tfw bike is identifying information
>tfw people know you by your bike better than they know you by your face
>tfw can't reasonably post it on /dbt/ to instantly win internet arguments
>tfw it's a ninja 300 and wouldn't win internet arguments anyways
/dbt/
haven't ridden my bike in about 4 months. Finally got to today and everything seemed normal.
I'm a bit paranoid about the carburetor though...signs I should get it cleaned?
Also what other "getting back on the saddle" checklist/repair list are there? Also getting close to 1000 miles since last mechanic trip.
>>16043336
>haven't ridden my bike in about 4 months
I could say the same about me and your mom haha
>>16042844
>And I did vote brexit.
Are you 80?
>>16042844
>And I did vote brexit.
YBR-grill y u so perfect?
>>16043161
Yummy
Do 650's make good Sumo's?
Yes ofc
>>16043503
Try
0-4 jerk dick
5-9 oxy
0-9 kill self
dubs mean i live
0-9 eat hotpocket and go for 200mi+ ride
>>16043552
i'm gonna stuff 200 miles in your hot pocket
>>16043554
L-lewd
>>16043554
>2 million dick thrusts
ouch
>no life
>no bike
>no money to buy new bike for another three days
what the fuck do i do, /dbt/
>>16043591
prioritize, money then bike then do whatever you want after that because bike is all that really matters
>>16043091
depends on if the naked has a windshield or not, and the speeds you're traveling.
winding side roads with good tree cover and not much head or crosswind shouldn't be very tiring. highway miles at 70+mph can easily get very tiring
>>16043503
They make pretty good street tards but not great SUPERmotos
>>16042883
my stock 2006 RS125 had 6 gears and topped out at 100mph/162kmh.
Rejetting, decatting, new sprockets and the Pollini 180cc bore would be more than enough to hit 110mph, if someone was so inclined
>>16043123
I'd go for a few years older and much less money since it's mileage which matters. Visit, and study, the awesome xlforum for answers to all Sportster questions.
>>16041934
10/10