[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ Mighty K5 edition

>>16029744
thats a k9 bruh

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>>16029754

3rd for posting 14 consecutive webms of literally the same shit.

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Which one of you fucks is this?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/5827345236.html

>>16029812
go sit on your dildo

Former CBR300R anon reporting.

Insurance inspected the bike today. The call went something like this.
>we're going to declare it a total loss
>ok, I didn't get a good look at it after the accident because of my injuries, how bad is it?
>well you can see where the bike hit the car on the right side, there's some blue paint transfer and then it must have slid for a while on the left side
>and something is dripping from the engine, it doesn't look good
>cry a little
>we need the key to get the mileage so we can get it to copart

This is sort of good news. Now I'm not stuck with a bike that I'll never be able to sell. On the bad side, I can't afford to get another bike. Not for a long time.

Considering suing the woman who hit me. Still no police report.

Podiatrist said my toenail will likely never be the same. Fracture runs down into the joint.

Be careful, y'all.

>>16029812
jesus he uses every trope

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>>16029832
Bruh I saw this coming when I saw how overconfidently you were posting before.

I'm like a crystal ball damn.

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MFW I CSI myself out of all reflective surfaces.

>>16029812
is it really a 6 speed?

>>16029845
>harley
>gringo
>these people actually exist
Damn.

>>16029851
I enjoy not looking like a grated cheese if an accident does happen.

>>16029849
Are you doubting the godmachine?

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>>16029845
gotcha

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>>16029845
>hurrlee

>>16029861
Dammit!

>>16029841
I somewhat doubt that.

The collision would have happened to me in any vehicle. I was literally going in a straight line at a constant speed. Sure, I was probably pretty reckless on a pretty regular basis, but that had nothing to do with me going down. It may have been a matter of time, and maybe it's a good thing that time never came. I got off easy, considering.

>I'm like a crystal ball
And I'm overconfident.

Why don't you fags get a real bike? Harley Davidson motorcycles are the best bikes for any type of riding you can think of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff9zFSiGR3Y

>>16029873
i disagree.

>>16029832
Glad to hear it's totalled, in a fiscal sense.

Sorry your babby died.
You'll be able to get another bike when the insurance pays out... right?

>>16029845
Fucking awful

>>16029832
That's what you get for riding a 300

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>>16029869
nah I remember reading this.

>I got to be a decent rider pretty quickly, but I'm getting to the point where I can throw this little bike around really pretty well, I think.

and I knew you were going to crash soon, I just knew it.

Pride comes before the fall, always does. Was bad luck involved? sure, but I bet in hindsight some more defensive riding, lane positioning, getting ready on the brakes in any potentially dangerous situation would have helped.

You can't rely on other people not to die on a motorcycle, you need to ensure that when they try to kill you that you have an exit strategy.

>>16029812
Hey

I have the same bike too.

Am I wrong for wanting a WW2 era BMW R75?

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>>16029960
probably

>>16029968
How would I even go about finding one of these?

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>>16029960
no I also want to be like Steve McQueen

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>>16029977
why the fuck would I know?

>>16029744
i wanna pet doggo

>>16029960
Hey i want an fwd bike. is that so wrong.

Are bmws good beginner bikes? I just like how they look. I'm mechanically competent when it comes to cars, bikes shouldn't be that bad to work on. So should I go beemer?

>>16030006
an f800 shouldn't be hard to learn on

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i took a perfectly fine chinese 125cc and tore it to pieces and now, willingly, kickstart it everytime i want to ride because i don't like riding with a dashboard (which wires the electric start). makes me feel like im one with my bike

(my main bike is a Z300)

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>>16030006
https://rideapart.com/articles/why-the-190mph-bmw-s1000rr-would-make-a-terrific-first-motorcycle

it is known

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Post your most recent pic

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Sweet, I won the science fair

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>>16030016

>>16030024
looks like fun wombat

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>>16030016

just dropped my brand new ninja 650 today. some asshole bumped into me from behind at a stoplight.... the thing is only 2 days old
:(

>>16030037
insurance bro. pics?

>>16030027
mucho fun
i need to relocate the wat sticker though

>>16030037
did you file a claim for it? get every penny you can m8

>>16029905
I did say that. I see your point. I would be lying if I said I would do the same thing if I had to do it again tomorrow. My fault or not, it may have been avoided if I had been more cautious. Lesson learned, but it doesn't bring my bike back or fix my foot.

>>16029904
It would be many folds worse had I spurdo'd the fuck out of anything but a shitbike. That was the whole point from the beginning. If shit goes sideways, it sucks dick, but in the end it's not actually a big deal.

>>16029883
>You'll be able to get another bike when the insurance pays out... right?
NOPE

>>16030045
You think you can save it via heat gun and a very delicate touch? Maybe stick it on the front fender there or on the front of that rear case?
>>16030049
How much is her insurance going to pay?

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Buying a bike tomorrow, looks like I have no choice but to shit /dbt/ up for the next 3 years like KKK

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luckily its just a few small scratches but i feel so self conscious calling insurance on the second day ive had it. the guy just drove off too...
just overall depressing

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>>16030016

Found your youtube R3 trap anon, now come out and post boi pucci.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf9_X6Vq8ns

>Just some goober on a 300

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>>16030056
nah, its trash, i have like 5 more though

>>16030024
Can you give me the specs on it all. I've been riding a sport but just sucks for long distance. Shit looks agile, versatile and possibly for long distances?

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>>16030016

>>16030063
I would have said fuck the toe, followed him and kicked him in the neck

>>16030049
why aren't you buying a used shitbike off of CL in the interim?

>>16030015
>https://rideapart.com/articles/why-the-190mph-bmw-s1000rr-would-make-a-terrific-first-motorcycle
I think that just sold me. Brb saving up.

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>>16030076
just google the specs, its fairly fat for offroad but still about the lightest in its class.
rides like a super comfy dualsport and has the power character and sound of a jap vtwin
ill have a better long distance answer come april when i venture back to moab but as of now in stock trim its good for all day rides

>>16030089
its only my second day riding too. it took me a minute to even realise what the hell had happened

>>16030063
dont feel bad about calling a hit and run, but you shouldve done it at the scene and looked for witnesses. youre probably SOL if you didnt get plates.
go pick up some frame sliders to help prevent damage incase something like that happens again

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>>16030068
>scrub who can't ride
>already has a motovlogging channel

jesus christ kill me now

>>16030110
definately on my list. on a more positive note. it looks like the paint isnt even really scratched, more like tiny holes, so im assuming some touch up paint or something and theyle be gone. theyre hard enough to see as is

hey dbt, when i roll on the throttle by the tiniest amount while barely moving my bike sort of splutters about. when i give it more gas then it's all g. My understanding is that the carbies have 2 fuel jets, one regular and one small one. I prolly need to clean it out right?

Also how much free play is acceptable on the throttle? like I have 1cm of wriggle on the throttle before the it actually revs the engine

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>tfw bro secretely hates motorcycles

>>16030056
All I know is my insurance appraised it at $3700. I still owe more than that on the loan. I'm also getting back the value of my gear, which is something like $800. With that, I might break out even.

>faggot took out a loan on a $4000 bike
The whole point was to get a small loan and pay it on time so I could fix my credit rating. Was going well up to now.

>>16030092
I'm not above that. On the low end that's still going to be several weeks.

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>>16030124
pilot jet is probably a little plugged up and starves just off idle.
try cleaning it, if it persists, either go up one size or richen your idle mixture screw a little and adjust idle speed as needed

>>16030121
get some dbt or wat stickers

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>>16029812
>Spark plugs $50
>Tires $400
>Oil $50
Those prices cant be real.

>>16030145
he probably bought meme plugs but the others are perfectly reasonable prices if you use quality parts.

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>>16030116
>scrub who can't ride
>implying that isn't all of /dbt/

anon pls

>>16030124
dont know about carbs that much but cleaning it could help
As per free play its preference imo. My friends has i'd say 1-1.5cm of wiggle room but I prefer it to be tighter then that. I feel like really anything more than about 1cm is too much

>>16030134
Cbr300 anon With the red helmet? If so im the anon that called you a cuck and cursed you to crash.

>>16030148
>$400 for tires on a GS500
He must have bought the most expensive tires he could find then gone to the stealership to have them installed.

>>16030145
If you have the tires mounted and balanced at a dealership, that's actually not that far off.

>>16030145
Sprockets are $250?

>>16030157
Well I have good news for you then: you're literally a wizard.

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>>16030152

https://youtu.be/4bxO1HXBl0k?t=40

>>16030143
>>16030155
thanks anons

>>16030165
oh, thats the GS?
kek
yeah high end tires will run that much but shit that should have ought to be like $50 a pop

>>16030148
>2 plugs $50
Iridiums are $10 each, rotella t6 is $20, rk chain and sprokets are $100, tires are $100 each.

>>16030169
No m8 more like $20 a piece from jt or rk

>>16030188
I guess installation fees then. The front sprockets are easy as fuck, haven't had to mess with a rear sprocket yet.

>>16030069
Not gonna leave it? You never know if it'll save a scratch I guess
>>16030134
Sorry to hear. I hope some of your gear is salvageable.

>>16030171
Im glad this happened to you :)

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>>16030068
There will be no boi pucci posting now or ever.

>>16030172
mfw that happened

>>16030200
There easy as fuck. Also he didnt he put a new chain on.

>>16030172
This is so cringey

>>16030211
Suscribed to chaseon2wheels

>>16030211
R3 trap anon i now know were you live.

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>>16030235
neat-o. :^)

>>16030260
shiggy diggy doo shaggy

>>16030172
>gotta get rid of these chicken strips!
>40 mph
>turns wider than my anus
>doesn't throttle through even a little bit
>still goes wide and crosses a lane line at a merge

SIK LEEN BRAH

>>16030068
holy shit top tier doxx

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>when gay ass dealers put their ad in the FOR SALE BY OWNER NO DEALERS section of craigslist
OUT

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Just bought a 2006 Vulcan 750 with 6,100 miles for $1,300. First bike and took it out today, felt pretty damn good.

>>16030290
Fuck off you slimy crotch pilot

>>16030299
slimy crotch is as slimy crotch does, biscuit

>>16030298
better write out your will, you started on a 750. way too high a displacement for any new rider to handle. you're fucking dead kiddo

Might buy this bike. This appears to be the only flaw in it. How high would you value it?

2006 ZZR600

>>16030298
That seat looks pretty comfy. Enjoy it and ride safe.

>>16030326
its biggest flaw is that it doesn't exist

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>>16030326
I might as well give up

>>16030339
>2006 ZZR600
i wouldn't pay more than $2500 for that but that's just me.

>>16030006
BMW makes the best motorcycles. Period. With that said, they tend to be fairly unreliable when compared with their Japanese counterparts. Normally, this wouldn't be an issue. Anyone with half a brain can service their own motorcycle.

But....thanks to exquisite ass backwards German engineering and strict control on parts availability...it's a pain in the fucking ass to DIY/self service your own BMW Motorcycle. This is usually compounded by the fact that they are equipped with a host of electronics that can only be accessed with proprietary dealer tools.

And no. Their bikes are too expensive for a beginner to ride. You'll be out several thousand dollars just from dropping it. But bikes like the F800 GT are indeed very beginner friendly when it comes to power and riding position etc

>>16030324
Then I'll see you in hell.

>>16030336
They are and thanks

>>16030280
You guys are giving this kid entirely too much credit.

>Expecting someone to know how to ride after only two months of seat time

>>16030344
That was the seller's asking price. I don't really want to spend more than $2200

Just crashed my 450 and I'm out for a few months. What mods to get when I get the K5/6? I'm looking for a good exhaust and flash.

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well /o/, I just bought this for $300, It's a 1982 honda goldwing 1100. seems to be mechanically sound. the electrical system is a fucking nightmare, though. Been looking into the poorboy alternator conversion. anyways, Anyone have any experience with the ignition systems on these things? I have questions.

>>16030357
i was being generous -- i wouldn't buy that at all. if you wanted to spend 8 or so hundred bucks more you could get a decent condition f4i which is just all around a better bike. plus you don't have to deal with carbs

>>16030359
Also since I'm not gonna be able to work for a few months, no L7. When I walk again I'm gonna just get a K6 and run with that.

>>16030172
something about the shadows this guy casts cracks me up. those bikes have such goofy ass riding positions

>>16030371
how is the f4i better other than fuel injection?

Also the kawasaki is $100 cheaper per year to insure for some reason.

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This is the ride never ends, the road goes on and on my friends. He pulled the clutch and shifted up. This is the ride never ends...

>>16030382
superior powerplant, suspension components, and brakes for one. at its time the f4i was a top contender in its displacement class. it's far from modern but the ZZR600 was never intended to be anything more than an up-jumped budget bike.

the insurance cost premium is because the f4i is an actual sportbike. insurers hate sportbikes

>>16030172
just in case you thought that was bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEC-AanEl5Q

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>>16030397
>it's far from modern but the ZZR600 was never intended to be anything more than an up-jumped budget bike.
>the insurance cost premium is because the f4i is an actual sportbike. insurers hate sportbikes
The 2005-2008 ZZR600 is literally a rebadged 2002 ZX-6R. It's a real sport bike. It looks more "sporty" to me than an F4i.Has dual 3-piston calipers and everything.

Also the CBR will never be this happy.

The F4i gets memebike tax so I'd be more likely to spend a little less and get an F3.

>>16030413
since it looks like you have the (misfortune? :^)) of actually owning one, i'll defer to your judgment and personal experience

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>Told I'm a shit rider
>Already very aware of this

Never change /dbt/.

>>16030434
looks like plebbit's here

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>>16030434
The best par they all have crashed and spend time talking shit on here.
>tfw bmws are actually fun.

>>16030427
no lol got that pic from the craigslist ad too. Everything I read just comes down to personal preference between the two (and the other japanesies really) which is why I've been searching craigslist for all of the japanese sport bikes. The ZZR just seems to come out cheaper in most cases.

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>>16030413
it's pretty happy, I'd get one if I didn't have my dream be a daytona

>>16030439
What's my plebit account then, Anon? :^)

>>16030410
>not too bad to be honest
>audio is a little--
>0:40
>FUCK NO

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>>16029744
>Mighty K5 edition

The engine in this is based off the K5, does that count?

>>16030447
justice is served in the end

>>16030444
xXxBiG_NiGgEr_DiCk_SuKkEr69xXx

>>16030444
>R3 trap anon
Anon we should meet up and ride.

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>>16030410
>Clicked on 720p
>Got 240p Quality

>>16030451
That was excruciating to watch. He crossed the center stripe almost at every opportunity.

I'm new still, but I'm way fucking better than that. Jesus.

>>16030485
he's a disciple of that flatlander meme that you don't have to countersteer and can instead turn only with your bodyweight. absolute fucking idiocy

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Dude put in the address to a Sonic in his craigslist ad. Does this mean the F4i gotta go fast?

>>16030410
You'd think after the 20th time almost driving off the road he'd adjust his line through corners to something less retarded.

>>16030505
maybe he just has autism?

or doesn't want to be raped by a nigger?

>>16030505
He probably works there and he still rides it to work.

>>16030548
>>16030547
I wouldn't ever put an address to where I park my bike, work, or live on craigslist.

>>16030567
sleep tight, suzuki

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>>16030567
sleep tight, suzuki

>>16030570
are they sick? get well soon, KTM's!!!!!

>>16030546
I bet it's part of some ilaborate plot to try and ban motorcycles. No one is that bad at riding.

>>16029987
please tell me that body isn't cast iron.

>>16030567
SLEEP TIGHT, SUZUKI

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>>16030573
They were healthy at the time, just getting some electrical surgery.

Mine isn't feeling so well anymore.

>>16030061
Your mere presence shits up /o/.

>>16030290
Butterface Ass Nazi

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>>16030124
>how much free play is acceptable

really just however much you can deal with, but it isn't very hard to 'refit' the cable/throttle linkage and get all the slop out.

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>>16030448
sort of

>>16030567
Sleep tight suzuki

>>16029744
Nice pupper pham

http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=38
join us

>>16030658
whats the password

i would straight up suck a nigger's dick if i could get my check tomorrow. i want this zx10r so fucking badly. it's such an amazing deal and it's 100% going to be gone by the time insurance is done dragging their feet all over my ballsack

>>16030671
memes

>he is still making videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkegEsZItEPQNItECCZA_pw
I thought he quit riding because he got knocked out and apparently thats a big deal?

>>16030169
Including labor probly

>>16030672
I get why you would like a peter bike, but why are you set on this zx10r?

>>16030730
because the ad is coherently written, it's a good value, and is clean as fuck. guy has all his service records, original manuals, everything

I'm a quitter

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>>16030606
>tfw ktm is still running
Im kinda surprised, hasn't had a problem since i did the rebuild/electric start delete

>>16030745
well you did just do a full rebuild like 2 months ago. As far as I can tell this has never had any engine work done ever

>>16030567
Sleep tight suzuki :3

>>16030749
well 4 months but true, what are you you doing to it atm anyways other than sorting electrical gremlins?

>>16030766
electrical shit is solved. it has low comression now so I'm gonna refresh the top end after I buy a sport bike and build up some more cash afterwards.

>>16030706
he just bought an FZ-09, I almost wish he had hurt himself worse

>>16030145
>$200 brakes
Okay, if you get floating rotors and good pads, this is a pretty good estimate. It's also a good estimate if you throw bottom of the barrel shit and used rotors on and have a shop rebuild the calipers.
>$250 sprockets
What the fuck? did he warp the first three trying to torque them on?
>$50 spark plugs
what
the
fuck

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>>16030773
fair enough, i still need to fix my 450... need a few grand spare to do it though.

>>16030784
fuck he is annoying, all his videos are advice videos yet he is a complete fucking gumbie

beginner baiku tiering

Hayabusa > SV650 > Ninja 500 > GS500 > a fucking scooter > quarterbikes (300s count)

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>>16030786
This is the plug for my RM, which is close-ish

>most people just use cheap ones that fit though

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>>16030016

>>16030835
You go to that bike fest? I wish I would have gone, but had sudden family stuff :(

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>>16030016

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>>16030006
Yes, I learned on a 700GS.

The higher end bikes are too pricey in terms of servicing because of the ridiculous amount of electronics but the 800 and 700 are fairly minimal in electronics and they're pretty easy to work on.

Other than that, they have very friendly seating position and power delivery and good power. I felt more confident and secure on it than I did on the shitty 300 I had to use in msf, shit was like night and day.

Get 700 because fuck changing tube tires. Just don't fall for lowered suspension meme like I did, I regret it, shit is balls once you get enough experience.

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>>16030016

>>16030825
It's a GS500. A fucking TEN PACK of its OEM-spec plugs is $25.

>>16030298
Overall sexual/10
I approve

>>16030825
Post RM

who are some non-pussified alpha motovloggers?

>>16030872
>motovlogging
>alpha
sorry m8

>>16030298
>First bike
>cruiser

I hope you like slowing for most turns and waddling around Cruisers take a little more skill, balance, and consideration to handle at "road speeds" than sporty bikes.

Sportbike = easy mode

>>16030872
Cross training enduro skills is just about the only moto vlogger channel i watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad2YA4fU8s

>>16030880
>guaranteedreplies.png

>>16030880
Obligatory (you)
So you are telling him buying a larger bike that forces you to both go slower and learn to handle weight distribution is a bad thing?

Wouldnt he be better off learning on something like that then getting a sport bike once he knows how to ride?

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>>16030839
In obx Carolina?
Funny story, rode all the way down. Was a lil under two hours down. Fairly overcast and misty most of the way, no big deal. Got about 20ish miles out and got hit with a torrential downpour and gusting winds. That was when the hurricane was just coming up the coast. And I pull up just to find out it got cancelled :/
I forgot harley guys are afraid of getting their "investments" wet.
So I said fuck it an hopped back on the saddle, enjoyed the rain, and got some bbq

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>>16030410

Every fucking time with this video. I know exactly when and how he crashes, but I still pucker like crazy every corner leading up to it.

>>16030897
Oh shit glad I didn't make the 4 hour trip then.
This fest was really my only opportunity to go, I'll be too far for it to be worthwhile for the next one :/
Did you go on your own? Thought you were gonna head down with friends; must've sucked being alone and in the rain -_-

>Tfw ugly
>tfw still ugly in a helmet so girls dont wave at me

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>>16030905
Where will you be for bike week daytona? I'm probably gonna do that for a few days again next year. Most likely spend more time in the St Augustin area though.

I went on a weekday so all my buddies who ride were at work. Wasn't a bad ride. I'm used to the long ass trips by myself from my rides to and from work.
Hope the family things worked out ok dude :/

>>16030917
nice looking bike. I want one of those.

>frustrated with how badly i want my insurance check to come in
>sitting here looking at the one viable bike that's going to be gone by the time my check gets in
>decide to fap my sorrows away
>it's a quick, joyless affair
>didn't even feel good
>clean up
>back to staring at that one bike
just fucking kill me please

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friendly reminder for you slowfag bikecunts to gtfo my touge and stay gtfo my touge tyty

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>>16030949
How about you stay away from my dams?

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>>16030928
Next year I'll be out of Charleston. I might consider heading down if I find a bike friend or two in my area, and if my classes and officers allow it.
2 hours isn't too bad, at least it wasn't in Wilmington or something.
Family stuff wasn't really a big deal, my cousins house was getting bug bombed and they needed a place to stay for a week. All better now

>>16030953
you should kick that pos bike into the water

>>16030954
someday you'll be fat and gay enough to ride that bike, little babydick taquito nigger

>>16030890
>Buy bike
>restricted to car-like cornering speeds
>drop it and scrape the chrome trying to do a tight U-turn in a parking lot
>"it's a good thing to be forced to learn balance and racing lines, bro. your first bike should be torture."

>>16030959
The nds on the command and if you're needed really. Maybe you'll have a bunch of guys who ride and are going. Maybe even have a command ride. I've seen a few of those. Usually pretty well put together.
But yeah, was a epic journy last year. I think this time it's right after I get off hitch. So I'd just ride down to the boat and go after we're off

>>16030979
That depends*

>>16030890
That's like saying you should start on a ninja 600 to learn throttle control. You're not forced to learn. You can stay low in the rev range because you're scared as all fuck.

A cruiser loser can forego learning, brake heavily for every corner, lay er down to avoid a squirrel in the road, and waddle around parking lots to their hearts content because their bike is too intimidating to try serious riding.

>>16030979
What kinda boat you got? Buddy's got a 36' Grady and we are out all the damn time
You fish?

>>16030989
Lol I don't own a boat, I work on boats. I'm a merchant mariner. Although a buddy I work with keeps trying to give me one of his sailboats. He has a bunch at his house just sitting around.

>>16030964
suck a dick

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thoughts on the Triumph Bobber?

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>>16030986
If that is true then why do most cruisers have smaller chicken strips than most sports bikes?

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>Memes

>>16031011
S U C C

>>16031013
You killed her

>>16030996
Oh I getcha. Sailing is so fun, although I've only ever sailed a few Hobie Cats and sunfishes, I've really enjoyed it.
You must enjoy being around the ocean so much, wish I could get there more.
I might be able to make it down there though, I assume you enjoyed it?

>>16031006
Most cruisers have squared off tires.

If you ever find a well worn cruiser, it'll probably be a power cruiser ridden by a guy that started on a lighter bike.

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>>16031023
She's ded af m8

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>>16030975
>buy sports bike
>no idea how to ride
>restricted to car driven by a 16 year old girl speeds around corners
>gain giant chicken strips
>everyone laughs at my bike when i park it
See that argument can go both ways.
>>16031021
I have literally hundreds of pictures of cruisers on my computer atm that have smaller chicken strips than the sports bikes they were parked near.

I've been riding for 18 months now. I don't even wear gear except for my helmet and gloves. How the fuck am I still alive

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>>16030172
>people who use the clutch lever like this

>>16031041
>I don't even wear gear except for my helmet and gloves

cuck

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>>16030567
sleep tight, suzuki

>>16031044
Helmet is mandatory and gloves are for comfort

>>16031017
I do enjoy the ocean. Working on boats is a good life. Money is pretty ok, good amount of time off, see lots of cool shit and do cool things. Much more relaxing than my previous line of work.

It was definitely a unique experience at bike week. Obviously it's gonna be mostly Harleys n such. But there's a crazy amount of other bikes as well. Just a lot of events and crazy shit to see and do. Cool ass people as well. No fights or anything crazy. Just a bunch of folks with a common hobby and lifestyle enjoying each other's company

>>16030434
>being a shit rider
Never change shit rider

>>16031046
>helmet is mandatory

Whats it like to live in a nannystate cuckboi

>>16031033
Cruisers are normally ridden by more experienced riders

A newbie on a cruiser will square off his tires so badly they'll look like some darkside gumbie

>>16030287
>implying he didn't post it himself to generate views

>>16031061
right hektik burnouts cunt

>>16031061
a real rider wears out the edges before the center

>>16031066
*a weekend rider

do you guys recommend starting off on a 300 or should I just go with a 600 first? I'm a pretty disciplined and defensive driver so I won't be doing anything stupid like a 18 year old would.

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>>16031053
>Cruisers are normally ridden by more experienced riders
Does that mean most sports bikes are owned by novices that should have bought a bike that reflects their riding ability rather than chasing the image of being a good rider by riding a cool looking bike?

Who knew dbt was capable of such wisdom?

>>16031066
A real rider wears the center down so that the tire has a U shape in the center instead of being squared.

>>16031077
Literally nothing wrong with buying a bike because you like the way it looks.

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found a hill climb lol

>>16031076
I'd say get whatever you want, but a ninja 500 or sv650 would be your best bet

>>16031079
This

Im gonna buy a cruiser

>>16031076
start on a 1,000, pussy.

EX500 A SHIT

>>16031085
i am a pussy actually i'll be riding slow as hell starting out

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>>16030134
>I still owe more than that on the loan
>buying new bike as your first
>financing a bike
>obviously not riding defensively
Don't want to be a cunt but sounds like you deserved it.

>>16031083
Do it! What cruiser you gonna get nigga

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Can the americans please go to sleep so we can have a motorcycle discussion.

I'm incapable of fucking understanding the arguments you people come up with sometime because they're so nonidentical. Seriously this cruiser vs sportbike for beginner because of...no lean angle being better...too much lean angle being bad? Seriously i can't fucking even understand what you people are trying to say just stop.

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>>16031079
In all seriousness i think there is something wrong with buying an uncomfortable high performance bike if you have no idea how to ride it properly and no desire to ever learn to use it.
People that ride sports bikes down highways for an example, why not get a power cruiser?

at least then you are in comfort while going slow and enjoying the scenery.

thats my thoughts on the matter anywho.

>>16031077
Yes, and also because sportbikes are much easier to handle because they combine a low weight, a low seat height, good ground clearance, and manageable torque.

Yeah, you will most likely never ride at a level where a sportbike's cornering ability and acceleration can come together to make you truly fast, so you might as well buy a more practical cruiser. But a cruiser is murder on a new rider. If you actually want to learn, you will, so you might as well reduce the chances of dropping your first shitty bike (or spending $2k on repairs for your first nice bike) and pick up a used 500cc+ "sport" bike off craigslist. And if you don't want to learn, fuck you, stay on easy mode.

>>16031107
Yo momma

>>16030134
>Buy a used shitbike off CL for riding when your main bike is being wrenched on
>it ends up becoming your main bike

i'm afraid of this happening

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>>16031110
> Euro education

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>>16031110
No u

Chow Mein Knackwurst ist

>>16031133
My hovercraft is full of eels.

echte kotpfostiere Stunden wer zum fick ist oben?

>>16031144
KLOPP DEN MUTTERFICKENDEN GEFÄLLT MIR KNOPF

>>16031144
AUCHT NAFF IM HIMMEL, GESFACKEN SAUER KRAUT MACHT AUTOBAHN, HEIL DAS DER DASSEN

ZWEI

reminder that honda a shit

>>16031147
Ja ja ja
Krauti würstel pretzel

>>16031154
hondamotorradferscheitenburgringburgerburger ist gut, fackfacen.

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>live in apt
>parking spot right next to elevators
>be wrenching
>every single person tries to start up some gay convo on their way out/in
>'i used to have a hurrlee'
>'is that a ninja'
>'how fast does it go'
>'wow youre like a real mechanic'
now i just run the engine when people walk by

>tfw rossi won't ever race again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY9mrKR5SkA

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>>16031178
2 more years bb

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>>16031180
It will be sad when he does... Stoner won't come back because he is cucked by his wife saying he can't race anymore....
I feel like once rossi leaves too motogp is just going to be shit.

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>>16031180
And what a shame that is.

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-lack-of-bike-progress-contributed-to-yamaha-s-defeat-839552/

>a bloo bloo the best bike on the grid wasn't fast enough!

Rossi is a bikebabby.

>>16031147
(^:
>>16031155
>pretzel
>P
verdammt ausgelöst

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>>16031174
Doesnt happen much with me since I look mad half the time im working on shit. Neighbors move there car and stuff for me though which is cool.

>>16031192
wankelbimmer scheiße schnitzel lager

>>16031188
at least he's testing. he said he could possibly wildcard in the future.

>>16031189
well they did blow up 2 engines..

>>16031196
no one wants to talk to faggots, thats why

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Should i mod my 125cc gy6 scooter with a bigbore and a fule injector kit or buy a 250cc sports bike.
my bike only has 3K miles btw

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>>16031199
good I can work on my bike in piece. But honestly people just steal shit here anyway the poor klx that got stolen in the building over. I wanted to buy that shit before he did.

>>16031199
the mugello engine explosion only accounts for 1 of 4 DNFs, the others were just him crashing.

>>16031198
wahre Worte

>>16031201
>it has been two years
>they still do not realize i am a scooter

>bike is down, waiting on parts
>keep fighting the urge to drop money on a CL shitbike to ride in the meantime

wake me up inside

>>16031252
shitbike = best bike

>>16031279
Poor people actually belive this

are ktm dukes memes

i'm actually going to kill myself if someone buys this zx10r before i get my check in. i swear to god i will

>>16031285
There will always be another zx10r just as good down the line

>>16031279
>1978 goldwing - $800
>It sat for 10 years in garage, it will start! But it will need carbs cleaned, we took them off and soaked in cleaner but never cleaned out the jets, was a strong runner. I am listing for a friend make a fair offer and it could be yours, we can trailer it to you if needed.


not stolen! ran when parked!

>>16031298
that means waiting though. and more taking the bus. more smelly ass indians crowding my personal space and more basketball americans blasting their jungle music. more big deals talking loudly on the phone and more slovenly autists gently wafting the smell of their discarded pickles as they munch on their hamburgers.

>>16030324

Stop being a fuckin' pussy... Let him enjoy his 750 without bullshit fear-mongering.

I started riding on a CBR900RR and it's the best thing I've (stupidly) ever done.

>>16031308
But it will pass and then you will forget about while your on the zx10r riding like the wind

>>16031313
>someone finally takes the bait
>3 hours later

Low-speed maneuvering noob has returned. I was initially having trouble with low-speed turns and line selection, and I've done a few days of practice and seen what exactly I need to fix.

Just a quick question that has arisen from practice - I've been using my rear brake and found its amazingly effective for slow and super tight turns and movements, and tried my front brake and found it ridiculously hard to modulate as well. My question is should I be primarily using rear brake profusely, try to use front brake, or use clutch (which I haven't tried) when doing extremely tight maneuvers and turns?

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Oh snap I just realized I live next to a preschool

>>16031313
>The best thing
Well see the thing is with a single reality, you can't just say it was a good decision, only that you lives through it.
The fact that you went for a 900RR as your first bike tells a lot.

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>>16031340
rear brake and slip clutch if it's really low speed, if it's not, just ride the rear brake.

Front brake isn't as bad as people say in low speed (it's really not) but it's only useful if you're doing motogymkhana stuff and trying to do it as fast as possible.

Rear brake is more useful because it doesn't just slow you down, it also attenuates and smoothens torque to the rear wheel.

>>16031340
a lot of people completely ignore their rear brake except in extremely specific circumstances. its main application in a performance environment is in scrubbing off a tiny bit of speed at-lean while trail braking. application of the front brake upsets the chassis and chopping throttle upsets your rear contact patch. the rear brake is an effective way to modulate how much power is getting to the ground without cutting throttle. for hard braking either your slipper clutch is kicking in, you're lifting the rear off the ground, or it's just losing traction altogether from compression braking so it's not necessarily always applicable.

for city riding, the rear brake is awesome in low speed shit. also really handy for gracefully handling launching if you find yourself stopped pointing up a hill.

get comfy with that front brake though, it's the single most effective way of making your bike quit moving at the speed of light.

>>16031364
>>16031369

So if I had to summarise:

Nearly stopped = clutch/rear
Very slow-moderate speed = rear
High speed = front

And:
Controlling turns = front to shave speed, rear to stabilise

>>16031347
at lunch
do you hear them in the distance ?

>>16031348
It says he didn't consult online forums.

>normie bike buying:
>this looks cool, isn't impossible to ride, and insurance isn't as high as a hayabusa. i'll always be able to learn to ride fast if i want, but this is good for commuting.
>forum bike buying:
>buy a 250, you need to be forced to learn good racing lines. fuck the highway, you do togue runs only now.

>>16031377
yeah feathering is always an option too for real low speed shit. i personally use my front brake for pretty much everything, it's just how i learned. i rarely touch the rear at all unless i'm leaned over and feeling too skittish about the angles involved to apply any front brake. and even then i don't ride so balls-out that hardcore trail braking is a part of my routine, so i rarely have to touch it all, really.

remember that downshifting does basically the same thing as applying the rear brake as long as you're keeping those revs up

>>16031364
oh and refer to a previous post of mine for more information on clutch slipping and low speed ergo avoiding drops and being confident.

http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/15915240/#15916488

>>16031377
Sure, I wouldn't think too hard about the rear brake mid turn for now though, not many people have the killer rear brake instincts, I certainly don't. I think most people overthink the rear and it causes them to crash (ie locking it up under emergency braking, feeling like they have to use the rear because they're in a corner and axing themselves ala https://youtu.be/OVvkSQmqm3M?t=16 )

If you really really need to get rid of speed, pick the bike up, feed on some front brake then whip it back into the corner.

The max I ever do is a little dab of rear sometimes when opening the throttle to soften out the transition.

>>16031387

Is there a quick summary for how forces act on bikes? Like some kind of diagram or just text that tells me how each type of braking moves the chassis, how it affects suspension, how operating the clutch moves the chassis and suspension, throttle, etc.

Also, thanks to all for the advice thus far.

>Americans giving advice about braking

It depends on your bike, but generally:
You use both, first shifting weight to the front then lifting the rear a bit

At low speed just keep the clutch near biting point and modulate the rear

>>16031386
Which is kinda my point.

A more strung 250, like a hornet or even GSX/CBR etc, run on par to 60mph that a competent 2L NA 'performance' japper is capable of. You don't need much more for commuting responsibly, unless you do longer trips and don't wanna sit at 10krpm all day.

A 900RR is just a sneeze away from losing your license or head, which is the appeal I can understand, but to say it's perfectly fine is just so ignorant it boggles the mind.

>>16031409
Islamic sympathizer please leave

>>16031410
>don't wanna sit at 10krpm all day.
Nobody likes that buzzing. It's a luxury factor, like people who buy sedans with monster engines
>losing your license or your head
the sky's the speed limit when the cops aren't looking

>implying they'll even give chase if it's at night and you cut your plate light

>>16031399
i don't actually have any reference for that and my own understanding is bro science and just what i've intuited from riding bikes over the years.

front and rear brakes are both going to upset the chassis, but because of where the front brake is relative to the bike's center of mass, braking forces originating there are going to upset the chassis a lot more. for rear braking under throttle, you're mostly just making the engine fight the brakes a bit instead of 100% towards fighting gravity/the bike's inertia/your fat ass/whatever. that's the crux of why it CAN be safer to apply rear in the corners than the front.

in simple terms, you get a fuck ton of nose dive from the front brake, not as much from the rear. applying throttle does the opposite and lightens the front of the bike, eventually into a wheelie if you fuck up/so desire.

>>16031422
if anyone has a better understanding of this stuff please feel free to chime in, i'd like to know too actually.

>>16031429
In corners you generally never want to apply brakes, maybe some enginebraking at best
In emergency cases first you use the rear to get the bike upright, then you modulate the front to a stop

>>16031416
>Nobody likes that buzzing
Not many, I'd wager, but I know a fair amount that don't give two fucks either. You don't really buy bikes for luxurious transport, either. Especially not on a supersport.

>The sky's the limit
>Cut the plate light and fuck the police xD
Not sure what logic I expected in defense of buying an RR as their first bike.
>buy supersport to learn on
>Because I can just do a runner in the night
Really?

>>16031436
i mean that's not entirely true. at any lean angle less than max, at neutral throttle input you theoretically have some traction available for tightening your line. that's adding another layer of complexity that's not necessarily beneficial for newer riders though

>>16031422
Broscience or not, thanks for the advice - the throttle and brake movements make way more sense once someone spells it out for you.

>>16031436
Doesn't braking just slow you down as opposed to bringing you upright? I always thought braking in a lean is a recipe for a lowside. Also, where the hell does trailbraking fit into all this?

>>16031442
I have no idea what kind of mushrooms you're on, but how will braking tighten your line, mr. No Bike?

>>16031437
>You don't buy bikes for luxurious transport
There's a point where people draw the line. Sometimes it's a windshield, or a less buzzy engine.
>not sure what i expected
I'm just saying, it's not a guaranteed arrest and loss of license unless you have one of those police departments with a fucking hayabusa. Also, most supersports let you stay comfortably far away from the "on" switch, which, by the way, won't get you to jail speeds instantly on many bikes.
>making up arguments
i said you can learn on a supersport
i didn't say that had anything to do with how likely you are to actually be arrested for speeding on one

Now, let's say you're not a hooligan and really are a dork with shitty throttle control. So shitty you sneezed and went WOT instead of chopping it and were in just the right gear to go 20 over the limit. The cops will probably understand if you're A: white and B: respectful, so don't worry about it and go ride a 125cc dirtbike for the next month because you'd die on a 250 with that level of skill.

>>16031454
I'm the OP noob, but I thought trailbraking is the exact idea of braking to tighten your line during a lean? I've just always heard that trailbraking done wrong = lowside

>>16031453
High/low siding are the result of losing traction and over correcting/sliding it out
It can happen with too much brake or throttle alike
Braking, when done correctly will want to pull you back straight

Trailbraking is cutting the throttle and/or feathering the brakes to slow down in a corner

>>16031454
>No Bike
if someone says this to me again i'm going to kill myself and then bomb the russians.

i don't feel like explaining it so here you go

http://powersports.honda.com/experience/articles/090111c080a4c320.aspx

>>16031469
Ah, so gradual brake = forces push the bike back upright and sitting up straight becomes easier, thus making the bike upright, whereas stupid brake = lose traction due to tyre lockup, etc.

I feel dumb as fuck actually saying this stuff out loud because it seems so obvious

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>tfw work and can't ride glorious krautbike

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>>16031409
I'm american now?

>>16031453
Watch totw2 for an explanation on why hitting the brakes actually picks the bike up.

as for trailbraking, not for the road, there are like 2 places where racers crash the most in terms of lowsiding, one is at about 1/2 way through turning in where braking and lean angle are at about 50% each and totally balanced, the force overloads the contact patch and the bikes go down, and the other one is at the apex where cracking open the throttle pushes the front tyre too much and it washes out when you crack the throttle.

Those problems probably won't happen at road speeds, but you shouldn't be aiming to trailbrake on the road, I just get my braking done before the corner and have the throttle cracked already as I'm entering because it keeps the bike nice and stable and easy to manage (even if it's slow).

With that being said I think you still need to know how to trailbrake because it could save your arse if you come in too fast on a corner, it's something I'm still working on myself.

>>16031469
>Trailbraking is cutting the throttle and/or feathering the brakes to slow down in a corner

stop

>>16031479
better to ask questions now than figure it out after a wreck

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>>16031475
>powersports
>.honda

>>16031483
>stop
>your graph clearly shows you're expected to go from accellerating to 100% braking on corner entry
El
Oh
El

>>16031483
imagine this turn as a continuum of your traction. going in a straight line, your bike isn't fighting any centrifugal forces, its entire traction can be devoted to a straight line. as you increase lean angle, centrifugal forces increase and there is that much less traction available. at 90% brake, the other 10% is being used for lean angle. if you applied 91% brake one or both wheels would break loose. at 50% brake, the other 50% is used by the bike fighting cornering forces. once it hits green it goes back up the other way except now it's with throttle. you gradually get back onto the throttle until you're completely vertical and devoting 100% of your traction to acceleration

>>16031505
NEW THREAD
>>16031505
NEW THREAD
>>16031505
NEW THREAD
>>16031505

>>16031483
Interesting graph.
What's the difference between A and B, noob and pro?

>>16031519
A appears to be 'normal' braking
B appears to be trail braking
Trail braking like that pic WILL fuck you up if you don't get it right.
I wouldn't recommend trying to brake that deep into the corner unless you're racing and know your bike and the road very well. Just start by braking a bit later and braking as you drop your bike into the curve, but smoothly letting off as you coem around the corner. That picture actually looks more like trail braking technique for cars IMO.

>>16031565
I see, thanks.

>>16029977
they're not that rare

>>16030096
Shoulda clarified, my bad. Whats the name of the bike?

>>16030567
SLEEP TIGHT, SUZUKI