Is /mu/ better or worse now than it was in 2014?

worse obviously

>>73395624
Oh it's worse. At least those old threads were actually music related.

Worse. Knowledgeable tripfags have been driven out by plebs.

it's pretty much exactly the same
obviously people will say it's worse now but nothing's really changed

>>73395702
>knowledgeable tripfags

>>73395624
is this fucking shit real? seriously people prefer taytay to the genius of plant?

>>73395815
And this was before 1989 came out

>>73395815
Plant is a sham and copied all of his good songs from lesser bands

Considerably worse.
The median age of the people who post here gets lower with every day.
You can just see in the sorts of threads that get made here nowadays that the vast majority of the people posting on here are children. I reckon the average /mu/tant at this point is like 15 years old.

>>73395846
See, this >>73395815 is what I'm talking about for example. This guy is underage. You can just tell. It's obvious

Most of the newer people probably don't know who CLT is soooo I guess you could say both.

>>73395702
I haven't been on /mu/ reg since late '14. Are there even any recurring tripfags anymore?

But really, /mu/ had its pretty bad phase in '14 and the bit of '15 I caught. It definitely seems less retarded than back then. But at the same time way less active and diverse. I don't really see as much diff music be talked about.

>>73395846
You seem to know what's up, can you confirm/deny my hunch?
>>73395878

>>73395702
this is the problem. We need more people who call people out in meaningful ways and actually "moderate" the content of the board.
>>73395749
i'm going to assume you weren't around back then but it kept away a lot of the inane bullshit that gets posted here now.

>>73395846
I would agree with this. It fits with the "lol i get to be an asshole and troll for fun" vibe that posters have now. People don't want to discuss music anymore, they just want to rile people up.

mu has always been harsh but now it's just because these kids think its funny to be racist, sexist, whatever on here because it's anonymous.

This is the only board who sucks Kendrick/Kanye dick

>>73396011
Well, it is a music board

>>73395624
/mu/ has been shit ever since I started browsing 4chan back in 2008, thus your question is shit.

>>73395702
>>73395878
>>73395968
>>73395994

all of this.

I would say 2014 is the last time I can remember this place actually being good specifically.

Actual conversations about music were pretty easy to find or get started on here, and I feel like people have started taking the dick measuring contest on musical taste a lot more seriously than they used to. I kind of feel like most of /mu/ unironically thinks they are "patricians" as if that's something that actually exists or matters, whereas people used to be a lot more transparently openly joking when it came to that bullshit.

>>73396218
also /pol/ crossposters have ruined the board by spewing autism all over the place and not being able to actually talk about music ever.

this place hasn't been good since 2009

>>73395815
^^^
nobody tell him

>>73396259
Somebody knows what's up... /mu/ has struggled to be a good board for years and has always failed to attain any level of sophistication or intelligence in discussion about music. I'm not even sure why I'm here today except to see what the plebs had to say about the new Lorde album....

>>73395624
Worse, but to be fair, Zeppelin is pretty awful.
>>73395704
>but nothing's really changed
Board went from ironic to post ironic

>>73396246
Is there any board that has not been ruined by /pol/ crossposters?

>>73396319
There is not, no.

/mu/ is shit ever since I joined this site, I don't even know why I come here - at least on /tv/ there are some funny threads once in a while.

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it's just an anonymous r/indieheads, literally. And they just had a poll aboout demographics and it's what you think, 16- 19 year old white kids in school, who don't rrally try listening to new stuff and browse p4k. you can even see this on any music or /mu/ related FB page. All underage kiddies who are obsessed with memes and being shoegaze sad boys. never expanding and never going to stop worshipping radiohead and /mu/core

>>73395624
Now? Wasn't 2014 only like, 3 years ago. Holy fuck.

Anyway, I was there for those threads, fun shit. Also: worse.

>>73396358
sad because this format lends itself to discussion much better than a place like reddit's, but at the same time a voting system would weed out all of the bait.

neither are perfect since there you can't even participate if you aren't one of the first posters in a discussion.

>>73396358
See I actually think this is a stupid post. "/mu/core" isn't a thing, it's basically a dumbshit term used to refer to any popular "indie" artist. There is nothing specific about /mu/ to shit that gets called /mu/core.

That's always been the most discussed music on here. And it is good music, I don't really see the issue.

There's always been good discussions about other music here though, I've found more obscure music I would have never known existed otherwise from here.

>>73395994
>It fits with the "lol i get to be an asshole and troll for fun" vibe that posters have now. People don't want to discuss music anymore, they just want to rile people up.
>>73396186
Case in point. Just look at this mess.

>>73396414
>I don't really see the issue
because new shit comes out EEVERY SINGLE DAY that isn't fucking indie, no one fucking branches out once they hear /mu/core. this is a fucking music board, there should be new discussion of new shit everyday, not seeing the same damn 10 albums every fucking day. This board can be so much fucking more than god awful shit posts and beating a dead horse.

>>73396595
That has literally always happened though. And people do discuss new things that come out every day. It might not be what you want to discuss, but they do. Start a thread if you want to talk about something different.

>>73396720
>And people do discuss new things that come out every day
were? Not here? this doesn't happen unless it's a meme or flavour of the week like the lorde album. MAYBE /bleep/ talks about something new or /daily/ sometimes, but that's it. It's not the whole fucking board. People are better of going to the library, the vinyl community or podcasts than go to any fucking music forum

>>73395624
he's right. Speak now is her only great album.

>>73396720
( no true btw)

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Waifu pop is literally the only good genre

>>73395846
yup, >>73397608 is a perfect example

>>73395624
Not really, not much has really changed

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Been here on and off since 2012.
It essentially boils down to this >>73395846
Taste becomes so much more homogenized from one year to another, the only explanation I can discern is an upward sloping turnover rate; more people are coming here at 15/16 having stumbled upon the /mu/core chart somewhere and leave 2-3 years later. Mind you, with the canonical essentials under their belt and a clearer idea of the elements they appreciate from each.
The problem is that /mu/ doesn't facilitate anything of value that would make sticking around worthwhile, provided the sensibilities for solo music exploration. There's no discourse, there's no original humor at all, and no board culture. You can attribute the problem in part to negligent moderation, but it has a lot more to do with the accessibility of music as an art form that attracts hobbyists of a more lazy / passive mode of consumption, thus alienating the more intensely devoted niche. Think about it this way; are you more likely to encounter a figure skating pseud or a music 'poser'?
Anyways, /mu/ in 2017 is worse than it was in 2014 and it's only getting worse.
It's ok, though. Probably for the better that it go away at this point.

>>73395624
Well, since Taytay is hated by almost everyone here now, I'd say it's considerably worse.

>>73395845
If you think that then you've listened to nothing of theirs past their first two albums.

>>73395624
Still the same garbage board since 2010. It's slowed down considerably since the peak shitposting years though.

>>73395846
t. underage metalfag that was born in le wrong generation

>>73398702
elaborate on how you came to this conclusion

i miss the taylor swift general bros, even tho i only started posting in 2014

>>73398702
How would you then explain this?
>It fits with the "lol i get to be an asshole and troll for fun" vibe that posters have now. People don't want to discuss music anymore, they just want to rile people up.

>>73398800
there needs to be a pop general.

but then knowing mu every thread about anything people would try to say they need to go to /pop/ bc they just learned that pop can have a broader meaning in their freshman level music appreciation class.

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>>73398702

Grimes threads = worse

>>73395624
it gets worse everyday, as >>73395846 said. on every board the average age has gone way down. /pol/ made 4chan too popular and well known with 14-year-old redditors. a good chunk of the people on /fa/ these days are from r/thedonald, i shit you not

every board has been abandoned. all the good anons and trips moved to discord and only lurk 4chan every once in a while to see if it has gotten worse. it's been that way for a good few years now

>>73398812
I used to try and talk about music all the time, and still do time to time..fucking around and memeing is what goes on more recently than anything. Threads get derailed people just constantly whiny, talking shit and not trying to make anything better. This forum has always been detrimental to itself

>>73395624
Worse. /mu/ has gotten progressively worse since it's inception. It's pretty unbelievable that it's even possible.

This is my 2nd day back after a 3 year hiatus from the board. Is the board dead? 90% of the threads have < 10 posts

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>>73398900
>Threads get derailed

the irony is fucking palpable

>>73395846
This

>>73398918
I see the irony. It's usually me fucking around in Lauren/chvrches threads. I don't do it in others.
If people would try to improve things it would get better, but when off topic threads and posts get more attention than threads about music there's a problem here. Yeah people are allowed to meme and screw around but it's so prelevant that little discussion about anything can't be had.

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>>73397608
Absolute trash level waifu.

>>73398979
>I see the irony. It's usually me fucking around in Lauren/chvrches threads. I don't do it in others.

when you drink away the memories, the people around you still remember what you've done

>>73398995
kys

>>73399027
I remember everything I've done. Let's not make this a thread about me

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>>73399053
okay

>>73399059
like anyone could possibly know that

>>73395846
See, this >>73395872 is what I'm talking about for example. This guy is falling for entry-level bait. You can just tell. It's obvious

>>73398900
This is true

For example, this thread:
>>73399179

17th post is great and tries to start a good discussion while ALL the previous answers were LE FUNNY MAYMES xDDDD . Why can't all /mu/ users be like that 17th poster?

>>73399059
>I remember everything I've done.

then you're just blatantly lying. i've personally seen you shit up a million threads that weren't related to churches or lavren. you know that's true

>>73396319
Technically speaking, /pol/

But why on earth would anyone go there?

>>73399990
I went there once out of curiousity, i ve never seen so many people filled with so much anger and hatred towards people like they do.

>>73395624
Same shit
Every day
The only change is the FotM album
Slightly more hip hop and waifuspam

>>73400086
And the said thing is that it's most likely not even ironic. Not to mention that /pol/ is present on every board to some extent.

>>73395749
hello newfag

>>73400146
Sad*

>>73396319
that's the main issue. and for some reason mods no absolutely nothing about it on /mu/ or /fa/. there are constantly 10-20 threads up that are along the lines of "what video game would a race realist who understands how cancerous feminism is play?"

>>73395702
tripfags are everything wrong with 4chan. tripfags should be harassed and shamed until they become anonymous again.

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>tfw I watched the transition from hipster indie /mu/ into hip hop & trap /mu/ and all the cringe that came along with that
>tfw starting to miss the hipster indie days

>>73400145
People underestimate the turnover here.

Most people are here for less than 3 months and leave once they've been through the essentials and bookmarked theneedledrop, pitchfork and fantano.

Rinse and repeat with a new wave of teens

>>73400381
*and Scaruffi

Worse. 2014 was a better year for music than 2017.

/mu/ is the fucking Groundhog Day of boards on this website. If you're using it unironically you should be fucking shot.

>>73400282
:<

>>73400282
If they're talking about music, contributing and being somewhat entertaining I see nothing wrong with it

>>73400086
>I went there once out of curiousity, i ve never seen so many people filled with so much anger and hatred towards people like they do.

Try talking to your local Imam then

>>73400429
die
>>73400430
they are all obnoxious.

>>73395624
its better, /mu/ in 2014 was all poptimist bullshit because it was counter culture. But after reddit and rym became poptimists /mu/ became rockist again.

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This board is absolutely degenerate. Should be deleted as soon as possible. Total non-stop /kpg/ waifu threads and little 14 year-old's jerking each other off with the exact same music this board was listening to ten years ago. Fuck everything about this shitty ass board.

>>73400457
But pop is music and this is a music forum, I'm not really getting your logic here

>>73400450
you weren't here in 2009-2014 I'm guessing.

see >>73395968

>>73400497
So is electro-swing and reggaeton.

Your point?

>>73400438
Think we'd have a good conversation, because I'm not a hyper xenophobic racist

>>73400497
>>73400542
It's people and post like yours which turned this board into the billboard forums + waifuspam.

I used to hate tripfags, but I see now that they're essential to maintaining the quality of the board. Without people with good taste to bully us, we've let this board turn to complete shit. We need to bring back the old tripfags or get some new ones who actually know what they're talking about. Of course cancerous retards like Montie and Brandon who contribute nothing should still be ridiculed and/or ignored.

>>73400218
Oh boy you need to see /lit/. Half of the posts are along the lines of "recommend some conservative essentials" and "I'm looking for something dealing with traditional values and the nuclear family."
Keep in mind that they never read any of the stuff that gets recommended.
Fuck /pol/.

>>73395624
/mu/ is considerably worse now. Golden age was 2010-2012 which still wasn't that great. At least the 'patricians' tried to walk the walk with that bullshit at the time, it seems a lot clearer now that this place is constantly overrun by underage dolts who waddle around in their own shit. The only difference is now I don't get any music from here, so there's minimal reason to hang around here for non-dank purposes

>>73400542
Yea, im sure black people dont experience any racism in muslim countries

>>73400542
what's up, Brandon. it's been a minute, you bovine piece of dogshit. when are you gonna die already, you fat fuck?

>>73400380
Blame le melon

>>73400716
What about you go and die?

>>73400568
It was like that before I even used a trip code, how long have you been here?

>>73400663
>non-dank purposes
the " memes" and shit here aren't even fucking good here

>>73400716
Jesus Christ

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>>73400837
>/mu/ kiddy filled out a captcha just to feign faux exasperation
buddy, I think it's time to join yr pal Brandon. don't ever reply to my posts again, you fucking faggot.

>>73400902
Lighten up a bit won't ya?

who remembers mumuplayer days

>>73400953
mumu player, share threads, and niggerman420 troll threads
That's how I remember /mu/

>>73400968
Those share threads got me into a lot of music. Maybe the best threads this forum had and probably will ever have

It also doesn't help that people don't check the catalog before they post, or want to create an entirely new thread for their stupid ass album.

Like this guy, >>73400117, decided the current 2017 thread, >>73397622, wasn't good enough to post his aoty choice in, so he clogs up the fucking board by posting a separate discussion.

LOOK AT THE CATALOG BEFORE YOU POST. IT'S REALLY EASY.

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>>73396319
>>73396325
>>73399990
>>73400086
>>73400146
>>73400173
>>73400218
>>73400648
>WAHHHH!!! PEOPLE HAVING DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME IS RUINING THIS WEBSITE
FUCKING. KILL YOURSELVES.

>>73401333
Do you happen to know why different boards exist, huh? Can you guess?

>>73401333
ironic post.

>>73401393
Who can really be sure at this point?

>>73401417
fair enough.

>>73401393
>>73401417
>>73401443
he's a newfag who is underaged. you guys are losing your touch

>>73401459
I've been saging though and it very well past the point of being upset.

>>73401333
/pol/ faggots have never had an opinion that's not parroted in their entire lives.

>>73401459
>underaged
I know, he posted his picture with the comment.

>>73401557
>t. someone who gets their news from MSM like CNN, MSNBC, or BBC.
Meanwhile im here getting the truth fed into me via Infowars.com

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>>73401382
Did you know this is /mu/, the music board on 4chan? Did you know anyone can post here and likewise, anyone can post on /pol/? Nobody is FROM /pol/, you complete fucking moron. Dynamism of public dialogue on the Internet isn't a two way road. Complaining about ~the pol/ boogeyman~ just makes you look like a weak-willed faggot.
>>73401393
>lol everyone that doesn't agree with the /pol/ boogeyman is being ironic, guys!
wtf I'm a brogressive now
>>73401459
>>73401577
>>73401557
>counterjerk
Absolutely fucking pathetic.

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>>73401605
Also remember to buy water filters they put fluoride in the water

>>73401614
>Did you know this is /mu/, the music board on 4chan?
Yes. And guess what else genius - it's not a board about politics.

>>73400429
leave

>>73401605
No one said anything about news but thanks for proving my point.

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>>73401605
>>73401628
wtf I hate Infowhores now!!!

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>>73401654
>it's not a board about politics.
EXACTLY
Now shut the fuck up.

>>73401614
It's because we aren't all bitter, hateful, angry people. Just because we don't share your ideals doesn't mean that anyone is weak willed here.

>>73401670
no u

>>73401720
Great, so why isn't discussion about politics on a music board discouraged?

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>>73401724
Morbid obesity is a direct byproduct of being a weak-willed faggot, you degenerate trash.
>>73401772
Fuck if I know, pissbitch. Why don't you apply to DO IT FOR FREE? You seem like the nerd virgin type.

>>73401805
So you're going to go straight to insults without having any legitimate argument and spout nothing but ignorance. I'm done with you

>>73401614
/pol/ wasn't a problem for other boards. it just became too popular and then everyone from r/thedonald moved there. so now we have to deal with 15-year-olds like yourself who heard about 4chan, visited /pol/ and then thought "well i guess it makes sense to check out the other boards now"

i wouldn't be surprised if that's the exact reason you're here. it's way past the point of saving though, this has been going on for years. the site is yours now, the price is annoying conversations like this from oldfags who are nostalgic

>>73401614
do you not know what ironic means?

you were making fun of people for, in your eyes, being hyperbolic and closeminded and you responded with a post that was exactly the same.

>>73401858
Oldfag here, I first arrived mid 2008, not nostalgic in the slightest, boards always been shit.

>>73395624
Pretty much the same, I see threads like OP's pic all the same

I'd say it's a bit better because at least there's less tripfags

ive been here since 2009, all i can say for sure is that it was always shit

>>73401911
>>73402127
t. newfags

>>73401724
I'm surprised you still post here after what this place has put you through and what's said to you
you have to be a masochist

>>73402148
>implying

>>73402158
It doesn't bother me. The only thing I regret is the whole Lauren Mayberry/chvrches thing. Looking back, it had nothing to do with me in the first place. Feel bad about pissing her off but it's whatever now.

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>>73400902
>he didn't purchase a 4chan pass to financially support his neighborhood and community
get out m8

>>73402297
This, anyone who isn't willing to support Hiro can fuck off right now.

>>73401911
i wish i couldn't see distinctions in life either. you're a lucky dog

>>73402297
>>73402340
>he fell for the /vip/ meme

cucks

>>73402608
>he continues to fall for typing in captchas 2-4 times before each post

>>73402361
I don't follow?

>>73395624
Same as it ever was.

>>73402297
>>73402669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KFz9WRRNpk
I'm sure you're perfectly happy paying to get data mined.

>>73402813
i'm happy paying to keep the host of this community running and also to not solve captchas

>>73402881
Hiro was in 5 seasons of Heroes, he doesn't need the money.

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>>73402918
cool

irrelevant though because

i dont need the captchas

dont reply to this post

>>73402881
>i'm happy paying to keep the host of this community running
Which you or anyone else for that matter doesn't have to do. But hey, doing something logical is so way above us.

>>73400414
this is true, but in 2014 this board was absolute shit. Literally everything was like op's picture.

>>73403016
Both suck, who cares.

>>73400663
this, at least before I used to discover music in here.

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>>73402295
>y you hurt me Brandon :(

>>73401333
This is how the average /pol/poster behaves. Remember kids, never act like a /pol/ poster. Nobody likes a /pol/ poster. They are the most bitter people in the world.

>>73395815
plagio di plagio bruh