/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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First for Ibanez RG

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>>69731538
Is richie kotzen underrated?

i have a telecaster. meme me.

>>69731654
Is it butterscotch?

>>69731654
I bet you're a bisexual twink boy

>>69731668
its black

>>69731678
i wish

>>69731683
>its black

thats the worst color you could have picked. im disappointed in you.

>>69731696
i'm sorry. to minimize this what colour pickguard should i put on it? it's white currently

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Thinking about buying a JC-120 I saw locally and run some stuff in stereo.

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Yes or no?

>>69731654
Squier Telecaster

>>69731769
its a fender

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>>69731731
I think black with white is fine.

>>69731744
good gravy that is a lot of expensive pedals

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>>69731756
I don't know I've never used those. I think some guy here just ordered one though.

Anyone have a Tera Echo? How are those?

>>69731839
one of those pedals that you go "oh that sounds cool!" but then only use for one song ever.

>>69731838
I'm watching the Andertons video right now but I don't have the time to finish it.

I just want something nicer to replace my Marshall MG because this thing sounds like ass.

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>>69731744
I'm drooling man...

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>>69731567
As a proud owner of pic related, I approve of this being the first post.
I'll be playing Ibanez products until the day I die or am unable to play anymore.

>>69731613
Yuh, but he is kind of a Cornell clone so it makes sense. The dude is still a class act though.

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Just ordered this to be my overdrive pedal for my set up.
Anyone have any experience with them?

>>69731567
So I've been playing guitar for about a decade now and recently started getting interested in mathrock and shred guitar stuff, where is a good place to start with Ibanez guitars? Like are the high end Rg models supposed to be what I'm looking for or what?

Acoustic fingerstyle player trying out electrics for the first time here. How can I avoid muddiness? I try turning up my treble and mids but my basslines are still muddy as fuck (granted I play with my bare fingers, my natural nails are too shitty for steel string). Using fingerpicks helps a lot but I hate the feel of them. Suggestions?

>>69732395
Yeah, check out the Prestige RG and S series. Great guitars

>>69732411
aww i love the bass my thumb gives me. get a bright single coil guitar

>>69732395
I've owned their Iron Label guitars before, 2 of them. And I've played their higher end stuff too.
Their RG and S lines are tailor made for metal and shred, so any one will do, and their top level stuff rivals or beats any top level stuff of other brands.

>>69732411
Get a strat, not even memeing. Those single coils are going to give you the clear tone you are looking for.

>Fellow fingerpicker

>>69731865
If I was in your shoes I'd buy a jc120 clone (fender ultimate chorus, yamaha g100, etc) and use pedals. Modeling amps vary wildly in quality and though I haven't played the katana it's cut from the same cloth as some of my amps.

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Are stock MIM pups really bad? I've been rocking them out ever since I got it 7 months ago. What am I missing out on?

>>69732487
fender stealing 200$

>>69732473
What do you think of their Iron Label guitars?

>>69732411
aside from the single coil pickup suggestions above, try playing closer to the bridge.

>>69731767
Get an ESP LTD M-10 and a mustang 1 amp. It's a good combination and they're the cheapest guitars and amps that aren't complete shit

>>69732525
this too

>>69732487
>Are stock MIM pups really bad?

No. They're usually decent.

Good pickups for metal/shred ?

>>69732442
>>69732476
>>69732525
Thanks for advice. Will check out single coils. Nice to know there are fellow fingerpickers on /gg/.
open tunings 4 lyfe

>>69732535
>starter gear
>a modeling amp that requires extensive eq work and pedal tweaking for every preset

no

>>69732546
i think im in the same boat as you. i could never get the hang of thumb picks. feels weird being that far away from the string.

>>69731744
>noise suppressor at the beginning of the chain
why even have it?

>>69731767
if extreme poverty:
ibanez gio (and a set of new fingers)
peavey rage 158 (40 bucks, LOUD, actually not that bad)
if less extreme poverty:
mim strat
tokai sg or anything really if you can get it under 400
epiphone lp

if not poverty:
idk man lp studio or some crap

>>69732613
>extensive pedal tweaking
You don't get to tweak the pedals, the effects are either what you want or they're not. It's also not complicated at all, though some people assume it is because muh amp modeling
I also only use 3 presets, and that's all most beginners would really need

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who /kiesel/ here?

>>69732519
I've owned 2 of them. The first one was their original Iron Labels when they first started making them. I absolutely loved it and played the shit out of it. I ended up selling it to my best friend for cheap because he had some financial stuff come up and had to sell his own guitar. Otherwise I'd still have it.

And ever since they released the first ones, they've been improving them ever since, with new pickup variations, coil spliting, locking tuners, and more.
I've gotten myself another one and it's my main guitar I play all the time. Literally my only complaint and it's not even bad is that some of the fret ends were a little sharp, which could mean they weren't filed enough at the factory, or the wood shrank at some point, which is normal. Just filed them up and it's perfect.

>>69732328
Can you post a pic of yours?
Every video I see of one, the lightning makes it seen either too dark, or even greenish.
Im between his and a Schaeffer km6 in white.

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>>69732718
>You don't get to tweak the pedals

Stop giving out advice when you have no idea what you're talking about

>>69732543
EMG 81 and 85s. SD Super Distortions.


I've really got my eye on the Bareknuckle Warpigs. Supposedly they're like better sounding SD Invaders.

>>69732681
Learn your shit first.

>>69731538

didn't know sam hyde played the bass

>>69732613
>>69732718
Also, the eq consists of bass, treble, volume, and gain. Not complicated. I don't know why they don't have a mid knob, but for a beginner that doesn't really matter

>>69732389
It sounds really bad, really tinny sounding.

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I've had an ibanez acoustic for ~13 years now, my low E string doesn't ring out or sustain like it used to, its kind of muted and isn't due to the strings. I'm admittedly pretty oblivious to guitar repair/maintenence. Im thinking it might be the polymer saddle, its a little worn down. Anything I can do to improve the timbre of my strings to a brighter sound? (I use cleartones and that helps a bit)

sorry if that made no sense, ive been drinking to numb the pain of the holidays

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Just got the Nano POG today. My bass tone > your bass tone.

My Pedaltrain Nano is overflowing

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>>69732795
>no mid knob

How can you people even give out advice when you don't know how to use your own gear?

>>69732777
I'm talking about the amp alone. If you do want to make it complicated then go right ahead but when I was starting I wasn't worried about having the perfect tone

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>>69732847
You know, the physical amp?

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>>69732767
The flamed maple lines aren't as nice in person, but who cares?
I love this one's pickups, they're DiMarzios, and it's got a coil splitter.

>>69732847
>>69732873
Idk why the pic is upside down, but I assume you'll use that to insult me, so go ahead

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>>69732767
>Schaeffer km6 in white
That was supposed to be Schecter, yeah? I was in the same place as you earlier this year, and I ended up buying the KM6 at first. There were definitely some quality issues from the factory. The neck pickup kept inching up so I'd have to screw it back down every 30 minutes and the frets just felt bad, kinda like they were clunky and almost "sticky". I also found the pickups were a bit more nasally-sounding than what I was expecting. Instead of trying to fix up the guitar I sent it back and bought an RG Prestige for a couple hundred more. Definitely made the right choice in the end

>>69732718
In this vein, to the fucking retard who last thread thought I meant the Line 6 amps, you're fucking stupid as shit because I said the multi effects pedal.

Also to the other guy who linked the programmable looper, those are expensive as shit and while REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, most people wouldnt need it.

>>69732887
Looks really nice. In fact I like subtle flames instead of full PRS flame bullshit.
The only thing I don't quite like for the model is the back, natural finish. I find the contrast weird.

>>69732944
>Schaeffer
Fucking autocorrect.
Yeah I meant that.
Well shit, that's a bummer.
I tried one at a store and felt really nice, so maybe thatwas a "Friday guitar".
Then again, I've seen some stories pop up about ups and downs with that model, like the oxidized finish after some months

>>69731790
Is that nitro?

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>>69733097
>The only thing I don't quite like for the model is the back, natural finish. I find the contrast weird
I love it The more I see it, the more I like it.
I think it's gorgeous.

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>check out Japanese Fender website
>notice the layout of the website changed
>go to Electric Guitars section
>looking through sweet JP-exclusive guitars
>something's amiss
>MH MG69 Mustang isn't on the list
>mfw they've stopped production of matching headstock mustangs for the gimped new MIM hardtail one

J U S T
U
S
T

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>>69733286
GOD DAMMIT PAYDAY GET HERE ALREADY

How do I know whether to use locrian or diminished scale. And if I need to use diminished scale then which one do I use?

>>69733356
just be yourself

So HSS Fender deluxes are $800 and HSS standards are $600. Should I fork out the extra cash or is it not worth it?

>>69733286
you mean these?
http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/eubox.php?key=MG69+&T=gazo

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>>69732803
>mfw these are basically the pedals I want/need for my future gigs

Also noob question, why put a noise suppressor after the octave and compressor pedals and not before them?

>>69733407
Of course there's still a bunch on the used market (I saw a couple of them on Reverb).

I'm just a bit sad they're not making them anymore.

>>69733466
You a bassist as well? These pedals are great. Literally all I need for a great tone. No big ass amp rig necessary. At practice I plug in to an FRFR PA speaker, and at gig I just go into the venue's PA. Its great.

I put the noise suppressor right before my preamp because, depending on the environment, the power source as well as the connections between the pedals can all be a little noisy, and this just helps to keep noise levels consistently low.

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>want a pedal
>don't know anything about them

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>guitar necks that aren't satin

>>69733693
Literally me.

>tfw too autistic to choose an amp
What amp head would you guys buy if you had 800 bucks? I am looking for one that can get dem mutulz tonez, but also have a nice clean channel. Ilike being versatile.

>>69733693
>>69733700
https://www.google.com/
https://www.youtube.com/

>>69733758
Jcm2000 dsl

>>69733794
I meant more like I don't know anything about what does what, what order stuff goes in, front of the amp vs back of the amp stuff, what to combine with others.
It's all so much to know that I just play through my amp and am good.
I have a foot switch that switches from my clean to dirty channel, and that's it.

>>69733800
>Jcm2000 dsl
Man, I have heard so many things about that amp. Both good and bad, I might just buy it. I have found some great prices on that thing. Have you had any experience with it anon?

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>>69733512
>You a bassist as well?
Yeah, my band and I have been playing in some local and some not so local venues for shits and giggles. We've decided to take this shit more seriously and step up our game. Hell I've been playing gigs for almost 3 years and I've just bought my first amp about 3 weeks ago.

Also, thanks for the info

>>69733829
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=djA3ZG3dHj0

>>69733696
makes me reeeee

>>69733829

see

>>69733794

>>69734036
Ignorance is bliss. Leave me to my ignorance.

>>69732278
Glen Fricker??

>>69734053
>Ignorance
the word you're looking for is Lazy

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Does this man also makes you cringe?

>>69734110
i bet he keeps a PRS SE lodged up his big fat anus

>>69734110
Fuck this guy, he serves no purpose whatsoever. His jokes also give off secondhand embarrassment.

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>getting your distortion from a pedal instead of from the amp

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>>69734110
>music is win

Is this guy nitpicking or is this really a big deal?

https://youtu.be/cqV-hJeRIBc

>>69734110
I don't trust anyone who plays a prs

>>69732800
What are some better overdrives?

>>69734101
Or poor.

Half of pedals is playing them and finding a sound you like. It's trial and error until you find something you're into.
In order to do that I'd need money to get pedals.

>>69734110
>Only PRS guitars

>>69734285
a choice example of how the internet allows uneducated people to become educators, themselves, with enough spergy research
probably because he had, himself, bought a guitar that was outsourced between multiple companies and felt the need to seek out any and all information on it to satisfy his anger and confusion
so its not a big deal, but not really nitpicking; its real shit but as long as you aren't ending up with #chinesesteel or something i don't think you need to be watching out for jet fuel

>>69731744
>look at how much disposable income I have
the post

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>>69734285
>Squire
>dee-uh-dare-ee-oh

>>69734523
>look at how much disposable jelly I have
the post

>>69734285
>>69734479
I've watched tons of his videos. He owns his own music store and is super knowledgeable. His videos like that come from his experience working in the industry and having to deal with that stuff, like importing guitars to his store, and writing checks to whom and all that.

I enjoy it because it shows that most stuff is made by the same people in the same factory, what you're paying for is the name, and how ridiculous people are for paying huge amounts of money for it.

>>69734569
>>69734479
how does having "outsourced tuners" affect the tone?

>>69734588
It doesn't, he's just pointing out how the guitar industry works. Most people are completely ignorant of where their guitar comes from, or who actually owns it or what's on it.
It's informative.

>>69734569
Sounds like every industry ever

Don't know why more people don't opt for second hand gear. Guitars are the prime middle aged man crisis purchase which then get sold a few months later

>>69731744
what is your job? professional momma's boy?

>>69732873
You can do it with the physical interface, though. Hold the exit button and turn the treble knob. A firmware update added this years ago. Have they not explained how to do it in the manuals that were produced after the firmware update?

There are actually a few different things that you can modify by holding the exit button and turning knobs, but I never actually use them because mine is always connected to a computer. I'm sure you can probably find a list pretty easily with Google.

Protip: You can do a factory reset by holding the "Exit" button while turning the amp on.

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>>69734249
>not getting your distortion from both

So should I just buy used gear until I'm rich or buy new stuff?
I have been thinking about getting a new bass but even though I've gained more knowledge of music I still don't know jackshit about amps and bass guitars except every brand is a meme brand.

>>69734753
That new gear you want to buy is full of outsourced fake components anyway, just buy used and save yourself some money

>>69734776
This.

Pawn shops sometimes have decent stuff.

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>>69732803
I have literally the same problem

>>69734804
>live in a small town
>one pawn shop
>most of his shit is at or above what it costs brand new online
>tried to haggle once and he started yelling and kicked me out
Only reason that faggot is still in buisness is because older small town Midwesterners are very computer illiterate and don't buy stuff online.

>>69734804
Better off buying personally. If it's not a vintage model guitars aren't that easy to sell so you can get a good deal.

>>69734285
wtf i hate guitars now

>>69731744
Thats more than my net worth

>>69734285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZhAzVo6mX8

It's a Chapman video, yes. But it shows him in the factory and you can see just how many other brands are being made in the exact same factory, of the same woods, by the same people.

Again, you're paying for the name on the headstock, that's it.

>bought an MIM fender
>turns out its a 'squier series' made in korea
>intonation wont adjust despite moving the saddles
>tuning heads are creaky and unsmooth, possibly rusted
>electronics sound pretty good though (idk why)

it actually has a hardwood body which is why i was fooled, most other 'squier series' have plywood bodies and are actually thinner than most mims/mias. yes i was too dumb to look up the serial when i bought it.

wat do /gg/? i got gypped, and now nobody else wants to buy the guitar after i tell them it's made in korea. should i put money into making it more playable or just write it off as stupidity and get another guitar?

What's good? Just came here to post a video of me playing the guitar.

>green text

https://youtu.be/hOuWSc2og3g

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Where do you go to test out your guitar/amp's sound really loud?
(that isn't your house)

>>69735472
the music store?

>>69735496
What if there is no music store?

>>69735509
if there is no music store, then how can you purchase an amp?

wait, so what's your issue with Chapman?

>>69735561
The internet.

Nylon strings on steel string acoustic, yay or nay? I told my friend I think the tension would cause intonation problems.

>>69735212
I have now transcended brands.
If you're a true patrician you'll get a handmade guitar from a luthier

>>69735363
clean it up dood.
>shred
>no string dampener
>low light video grain
>tin can tone
>not a gibson or fender

needs work

>>69735230
Try reselling it as a clueless seller?
I find it weird that you can't intonatate it, I have no problem doing it on my squier affinity except for the low e stromg

>>69735704
Probably sound shit but I don't see why not. You'll only potentially damage your guitar doing the reverse.

>>69735561
This is for testing your own gear

>>69735631
rob chapman is autistic manchild and his guitars are literally just schecters

>>69735230
WAIT

KOREAN SQUIERS WERE ONLY MADE IN THD LATE 80's AND LATE 90S

IF YOY HAVE AN OLDER ONE KEEP IT BECAUSE THEY ARE RARE

I have one but mine is from the 90s so I'm not as lucky

>>69731839
I had one for a short while the hold feature was pretty cool for long, spacey stuff but I couldn't get over the "Lazer beam" sound it made every time I hit a note

>>69735704
if tension's an issue, just get thicker nylon strings, 8 stringed nylons are a thing so there's no case where you should not be able to get proper strings

>>69735631
His playing is bland, his guitars are overpriced compared to the others that come out of the same factory and his advice is terrible.

>>69735837
rare =/= desirable

Is the mini rectifier a meme? I am thinking on getting it instead of the dual rectifier.

>>69735789
I actually sold my Fender Strat (texas special) to my brother for the money I used to buy my Jackson. I love my Jackson. I like the tone too, otherwise I would change it (; I was looking for a different kind of feedback like hey dood you might like this guitar player [insert player name here] or this band or that band. IDK

>>69735793
I am trying.

The low e string is way sharp and the g string is sharp too, despite the saddles being adjusted to the max.

>>69735837
yea it is kind of rare

whats so great about it though?

>>69735472
During the day I can crank my up as loud as I want at my house, I generally choose not to though.

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>>69736215
There weren't too many made and some came in quite rare finishes for squiers such as lake placid blue.

I have one aswell


Give it 50 years and it could go for a quite a bit

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>tfw I want to sell my Jazz Bass and cop a 5string stingray

the thirst is real

I'm pretty sure those things will break my back though

>>69736491
lol i doubt ill have this guitar in 50 years

anyway mines not in very good cosmetic condition and isnt a fancy color

>rare squiers

had to check, thought I'd opened up ebay by mistake

dream on

What do you guys prefer when trying to learn a song Tab's, Chords or proper notation?

>>69736944
what about by ear?

>>69736908
it's technically a fender 'squier series'

but yea its kinda trash

>>69736955
If you can do that good for you, but do you really think anyone else here can actually do that

>>69736975
i was just asking m8

depends entirely on the song desu

>>69736986
Sorry for sounding like a dick, to be honest I completely forgot that learning by ear was a thing

>>69736975
transcribing isn't hard, just time consuming. literally anyone can do it.

>>69736944
Tabs, if no tabs then sheet, if no sheet then ear.
I never use chords.

>>69737030
Where do you get your tabs?

>>69737077
not him but songsterr is good for tabs apparently

>>69737077
pirated guitarpro, so I just download the .gp files from ultimate guitar, much better than giving them money

>>69736944
Depends on what in the song I like

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Best bass comp? Is it (pic related)?

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>when you get your first tube amp and turn it up to get your first authentic drive tone

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Name a better guitarist

Hard mode No Ryan Bruce
Even Harder Mode: No Jared Dines
EXTREME MODE: NO Steve Terreberry

>>69737828
This is a tough one but I'll have to say lil Wayne

>>69737828
>EXTREME MODE: NO Steve Terreberry
Shit you got me senpai

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>>69737828
ropp sgallon :DDD

>>69737828
>T H E C A P T A I N
>H
>E
>C
>A
>P
>T
>A
>I
>N

>>69737828
Thousands of bedroom players around the world.

Is the Chapman ML-3 Traditional any good? thinking of getting a chapman and its the one that seems the most appealing to me

What arpeggio, scale, or lick should I learn today that I can insert into my playing and rely on time and time again?

>>69738097
minor pentatonic

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>>69733286
>MH MG69
holy fuck we got one of those imported to a music store close to me and i live in sweden. s-should i get it guys?

>>69738077
>thinking of getting a chapman
stop thinking

>>69738097
>relying on arpeggios/licks instead of just making up what's appropriate depending on the situation
if you've got your modes down though, practice them with an augmented fifth on the Ionian mode, so like in C you raise the G to a G#, as if you were playing in A harmonic minor but for other modes.
It's not the most useful scale but it can lead to some intersting results

>>69734329
If you're looking for AC/DC style overdrive, I like the Xotic SL Drive.

If you're looking for a little Dumble / Klon style warm "amp pushed to slightly breaking up" kind of overdrive, Wampler Tumnus seems like a decent pedal. Seems like you can push it into that traditional classic rock overdrive sound on the higher gain settings too. I haven't used it myself though.

Shiba Drive sounds alright from the demos I just clicked through briefly. _/(-_-)\_

>>69732951
>to the other guy who linked the programmable looper, those are expensive as shit and while REALLY FUCKING USEFUL, most people wouldnt need it.
Fair enough

Longshot, but any alternative/rock bands in central USA want to trade shows?

>>69737546
>tfw poorfag that doesn't know that feel

>>69737828
The Captain!!1!11!!!
Best blues guitarist since SRV

>>69733356
I don't know man, I usually use arpeggios to outline Diminished and Half-Diminished chords. I think Locrian sounds alright over either one though but I haven't really experimented with it much, admittedly.

Anyway I'd usually play a Diminished 7th arpeggio over a Diminished chord and a Minor 7 Flat 5 arpeggio (Half-Diminished) over a m7b5 (Half-Diminished) chord.

In most songs you're usually not hanging out on a diminished chord for very long, so I think the arpeggios can quickly outline that sound before you have to move on to the next chord. I'm sure Locrian sounds great if you learn to use it well, though.

Here's what I try to do on diminished and half-diminished chords, respectively:

https://clyp.it/mmnjhpny

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What was the first full song you guys learned?

Holy Diver for me.

>>69738315
Legs by ZZ Top. But I play bass, so it was pretty easy.

>>69738315
what year is that one on the right?

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>>69738358
It's just a picture I had saved.

>>69734329
1. The gain knob on a tube amp.
2. DOD Preamp 250
3. Maxxon TS

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>>69738378
USELESS!

Finally got a dedicated work bench. About to start cloning pedals finally after modding for a couple years.

One question. Whats are some cheap enclosures that can stand up to a sperg fit? Only info i can find are on hammond boxes, which i know are very solid. Ive used them before, but they also start at $10 for a small one. Should i just make mine out of wood? 3/4 inch stock for the case and 1/4 inch stock for the top and bottom that will sit on a groove/?

>>69735472
Theres a studio near me that you can rent out practice rooms in. Saying that I dont take my own amp there cause the house ones are nicer but you could if you wanted.

>>69738751
Also, i know about using metal 4 square boxes for mains electrical. Id rather not go that route though

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>trying to convince your dadrock friends to make a shoegaze band with you

>>69738952
Isn't shoegaze where each song is basically one chord with vocals on top of it?

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>>69738315
I learned Holiday by Green Day if I remember correctly, solo and all. Was fun, and I only had my acoustic.

why is bias so popular? it literally sounds like ass on every setting

amplitube 4 and s-gear, even free vsts are much better

>>69733696
t. bedroom player

>>69738996
i honestly dont know, im jsut memein

>>69739059
My hands get sweaty after playing for a while. If the neck isn't satin it starts to feel sticky real fast.

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>>69738952
>trying to explain basic theory and what a root note is to your punk friend
punk was a mistake

>>69739047
bias advertised the shit out of their product, everywhere on the internet

Seagull S6 or Yamaha FG730?

pls help

>>69739088
Hello hamhands

>>69739013
That the 007 head? How do you like it? Also what would be a good 1x12 cab for it?

>that Digitech petal
I had one in highschool and never really liked it.

>>69739090
How does one not understand what a root note is?

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>>69739115

>>69739202
>moeshite
People like you are why anime is frowned upon on /mu/.

>>69738315
Electric Funeral by Black Sabbath

I doesnt have a solo, and i love the fucking song

>>69739117
>That the 007 head? How do you like it? Also what would be a good 1x12 cab for it?
Fucking fantastic. the problem people have with it is that theres a hum, thats just a byproduct of how the head was made. it's noticible, but just barely. Otherwise, it sounds INCREDIBLE. Sounds just like a classic cranked marshall, and takes pedals well. responds great to dynamics and volume knob.

>Also what would be a good 1x12 cab for it?
Anything with a greenback, I prefer the matching cab (for A E S T H E T I C) with one, but I play it mostly out of a white EVH 212 that the gf has with Greenbacks. Highly recommend.

>>69739117
>>that Digitech petal
>I had one in highschool and never really liked it.
Ditto, It's primary objective is being a whammy pedal and a noise gate, that's really all I've used it for.

>>69734110
You want cringe?

Jared Dines
Steve Terreberry

>>69739115
Sweating doesn't necessarily mean you're fat, my hand get really moist when playing beyond thirty minutes and I weight 55kg at most, and it gets even worse if you're on stage.

>>69739191
Multiple reasons, he has absolutely no musical education (barely even knows his fretboard), he's one of these "oh I don't need theory" guys, and on top of that, he's kinda slow to understand stuff.

>>69739088
After 6 months of touring with a satin neck guitar, it literally becomes a gloss neck and you have to get it refinished.

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tfw the finish on your faded Gibson guitar's neck becomes smooth yet not sticky polish because of how much you play.
>>69739282
Hey me too.

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>>69739372
Also happened to my matte finish guitar. This is home use. Not that I mind, it shows the wear and play, but man does it feel weird.

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>>69738315
hocus pocus by focus

>>69739095
seagull >>>>>>>>>>>> yamaha

>>69739272
>getting upset over a commonly used reaction image
>>69739372
Good thing I just play for fun then.

>>69739490
don't listen to this bait

yamaha guitars have far superior sound and quality

I want to become good at jamming. I'm curreny at the level where I need like 5 mins to find the key of the jam and then proceed to play a shitty super slow gay blues solo over whatever random notes of the 5 shape major scale I can think of.

Please send halp..

Let's play a game. I setup 6 VSTs all playing the same riff over.

Guess which one is which and also which one you think sounds the best

>Amplitube 4 Soldano SLO100
>BIAS FX 92' Treadplate
>Guitar Rig 5 Hot Solo+
>Ignite Emissary + Poulin LeCab w/Zilla Fatboy SM57 & "57 On-Axis 1 (best)" IRs
>Poulin 456 + Poulin LeCab w/Bogner 4x12 on & Brohym Mesa 4x12 SM57 V30 5 IRs
>Simulanalog JCM900

https://clyp.it/b2hoelcu

not guitar/bass talk but this thread is always cozy

>working today listening to joy division
>normalfag stacy walks into to the kitchen and hears
>"anon why do you listen to this music, the singer is so bad"
>she wears a fucking joy division - unknown pleasures t-shirt sometimes
ree

>>69739865
it's just practicing improv over and over until it becomes natural.

learn solos from your favourite players and learn whatever little tricks they use outside of the standard minor/major pentatonic notes.

go to youtube and find backing tracks to improv over.

improv solo over your favorite songs.

try to make your right hand phrasing more natural, take breaks in between small phases (don't let notes hang the entire time), try to put some more groove and swing in your right hand and just let it kind of flow. this especially will take a while to feel natural.

a lot of the classic blues/rock guys would change their idea or kind of progress around every 2 bars, listen to a lot of classic guitarists and it's very common.

you'll see a lot of improvement between 6 months to 2 years+

>>69738315
he was a good stalker, its a nice song

>>69739895
Hate to say it but Bias sounds the best, followed by Simuanalog.

>>69739897
I'm going to bet you put on Joy Division BECAUSE she wears the shirt sometimes and were hoping to score some points

Sounds like something I would do t b h

>>69740079
they are out of order btw

the actual order is:
1. Guitar Rig 5
2. BIAS
3. Amplitube
4. Emissary
5. 456
6. JCM900

>>69740087
im not attracted to her since shes overweight and cant hold a conversation [spoiler]and the fact her boyfriend also works with us[/spoiler]

>>69740137
Well that changes nothing imo.

>>69740144
Fair enough

>>69740199
whyd the tshirt get so popular anyways? it doesnt even look that great

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>>69738315
The K-ON intro, I even got the same guitar as Yui because I'm a worthless excuse for a person

>>69739895
I recorded this with BIAS FX:

https://clyp.it/dasi3yzn

Playing out of my laptop speakers and being recorded by an iPhone, mind.

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>>69740244
>I even got the same guitar as Yui because I'm a worthless excuse for a person
H-ha ha y-yeah.

>buying an MG69 Mustang soon
>currently learning Fuwa Fuwa Time

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Rate my pedals

>>69739994
>a lot of the classic blues/rock guys would change their idea or kind of progress around every 2 bars, listen to a lot of classic guitarists and it's very common.
Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean they develop or change the motif they're playing every 2 bars or so?

>>69740324
Saw you post yesterday, I dig them. I'd have gotten an RC-1 personally (just for the handy LCD layout, nothing more than that), and the Turbo Dist is interesting (never played one), but I love the choices. Have a reverb in mind? Holy Grail Plus or HoF or something?

Decided that i want to learn an instrument and guitar sounds really appealing.
What would you recommend to start off with lads?

>>69740401
What kind of guitar have you got? What kind of music do you want to play?

>>69740244
QT

>>69740378
Not really put much thought on reverb, spent quite a bit on that lot, I'm not planning on buying anything else for a good while

>>69740401
Squier Classic Vibe Strat is a good starting point for general rock, A squier HSS strat for Metal or something, maybe even an Epiphone Standard Les Paul. the Fender Mustag amp is a good choice for a beginner, or a used amp of some sort. A basic distortion pedal will do as well if the amps distortion sounds like shit.

Basically; Do research.

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should I put pentagram inlays on my surf green jaguar

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>>69740496

singing and guitar is pretty common but i rarely see singing + bass, anyone know why?

>>69740496
depends, how many dicks do you suck a day?

>>69740445
Fair enough. You have a delay anyways, flashback delay is still quite a powerhouse.

>>69740640
Maybe it has to do the fact little people can sing as low as a bass.
Or that there's more different clashing rythms between bass and vocals.

>>69740686
>Maybe it has to do the fact little people can sing as low as a bass.
im still new to all this, why cant they just play and sing at different octaves?

>>69739854
>t. butthurt murrican who cant afford sweet canadian tonewood

>>69740354
it's not a hard and fast rule but a new idea every 2 bars. don't think you have to do it every 2 bars but it's something you'll want to do say over 50% of the time. you can also do like 1.5 bars or 2.5 bars.

>>69740640
You got to keep time and groove with the drummer, otherwise it becomes a trainwreck.
Also because most of the time vocal melody has different timing than a bassline, so it's hard to do them at the same time

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So in my quest to find a good general, all-arounder guitar, something led me to Michael Kelly guitars. Saw a video on this, their CC50DLX. Seems like it can do a lot of styles.

Has anyone heard about Michael Kelly guitars, are they any good? I'll be honest, the price is making me a bit iffy, since most of the "better" guitars I've found (American Strats, LPs, etc) have been over $1,000, and this one is $600, and most of their other guitars are around the $600-800 range.

Bonus Youtube video of the guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8r2EHc_QNc

>>69740856
Never had an experience playing them but goddamn that is a gorgeous guitar. Have coil tapping for those humbuckers?

>>69738315
Fly by Night desu. I was a smelly 16 year old

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>>69738315
Every Rose Has its Thorn...Just fuck my shit up...To be fair I was like 10 though.

>>69740954
are you bill or ted?

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>decide to practice
>fiddle with amp settings for 20 min
>fiddle with tuning for 20
>lube string trees
>decide intonation is out of whack

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>>69740893
Yeah, I thought it looked amazing as well. It's got coil tapping, yeah. Pic related. I'm still new to all this so I'm not sure exactly what that's all about. But here's a diagram.

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>>69741006
>All those options
Fuck nigga I want one so fucking hard right now.

Are "owned" brands like Epiphone and LTD shit tier? They just make cheaper versions of their more expensive owning brands like Gibson and ESP.

>>69740777
>Canadian anything
>expensive
Lol

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>>69741028
it seems too good to be true

custom guitars should cost more then mass produced models

>>69741028
https://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/en/products/view/cc50-deluxe

$600

>>69741057
See, that's what I'm concerned about. All these options, the upgraded electronics and Seymour Duncan Hot Rails, for like, $600? Is there a catch?

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>>69741076
that wood body is so sexy though

there's a used one on ebay for 550$

might be your cheapest option because ebay has a GODLY return policy.

i returned a 60 pound work station and it cost me 0$ to ship it back and got a full refund

>>69741062
I know what I'm asking for for christmas, because that thing is fucking gorgeous. I don't even like telecasters that much

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>amp making ring modulator oscillations at low e 5th fret harmonic
>contemplate blocking bridge so tuning less than an hour

>>69741043
iirc LTD is a little bit of a different case from ESP since ESP is almost completely exclusive to japan
But usually they're bad because you're paying less, not because it's a subsidiary company.
Keep in mind, there's not just Gibson&Epiphone, Fender&Squier, ESP&LTD, these companies own more than that.

Gibson owns Epiphone but also Steinberger, Kramer (plus some other non-guitar stuff)
Fender owns Squier, Gretsch, Charvel, Jackson and EVH,
ESP owns ESP-LTD and Scheter (as surprising as it may seem)

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>>69741356
>mfw bandmates getting too drunk to go on stage at open mic night

>>69741062
Wow I really want this. Right now.

>>69741421
considering just playing bass because you can play it fairly well when high and drunk

>>69741408
>Fender owns Charvel
wtf I love fender now

>Gibson owns Steinberger

of course

how to get this tone pls ;(

https://youtu.be/-YlxofoOnuY?t=3m14s

>>69736944
Guitar pro file if available. I like those because it's really easy to edit them. It's rare that i will use any kind of notation without making some changes to it for accuracy and finger position and different fills i may want to do (i play bass). It's also handy for arranging parts that aren't originally written for guitar.

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>>69738315
paranoid by black sabbath

>>69733262
It's black spray paint with no finishing coats.

>>69741695
I guess play a Maybach strat on the neck pickup through the clean channel of an amp with the preamp gain turned up a bit with a little reverb.

>>69737536
Generally the top 3 most popular are the MXR, the Aguilar, and the EBS.

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>>69741758
Anonito can you tell me about that amp? I need something smaller to practice with. I'm in a small apartment now so no more garage stack.

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>>69738315
The entirety of Wire's Pink Flag. I was listening to it one day, had a guitar handy, decided to see if I could play along with it.

Guess what, I could

>>69735775
>tfw no handmade acoustic guitar from luthier

maybe one day ;_;

>>69731538
Are the fender tension springs that keep in the trem arm in place usable on a trem block like this? It looks like they'd just fall out. This is the block for a MIM strat.

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>>69742000
Sorry didn't post pic. Here's the tremelo bloc. The issue is that it has an open back

>>69742076
yea thats fine

>>69741965
Yeah, I played along to that one a few times starting out. Playing along to whole punk albums was my exercise.

>>69740640
Bassists generally have no talent. The guitar parts that most singers play usually require no talent, especially if there is another guitar player.

Most bassists you see sing are usually pretty good. Some canada core examples are Geddy Lee, Rob Wright, and Todd Kowalski. Or they pstly just play the root note.

Bass players are a weird niche, theyre usually either really rhythm oriented or really melodic, both of which can affect singing. Strumming chords is a little more complex than tapping a rhythm on your knee.

>>69741691
>(((stein)))(((berg)))

>>69741847
its an acoustic b15 bud

>>69742076
my 100€ piece of shit (and a lot of other pieces of shit) has the same trem block and I've never had an issue with it in next to three years.

>>69742199
>Strumming chords is a little more complex than tapping a rhythm on your knee.
Depends completely on the strum pattern and rythm.

>>69740640
Because it's bloody hard, simply put. Just like playing intricate lead is hard whilst singing, bassists have less leeway considering they're also taking the rhythm and beat responsibility. It becomes less about groove and more about autopilot playing.

Whenever you see a bassist on vocals you know he's a good musician.

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>>69740316
>not learning how to play Listen!! instead
>not taking advantage of the Mustang's phase out setting during the verse

C'mon anon.

>>69742245
>buttblasted singer

>>69742854
nah fuck that, vocals are boring and take too much space imo.
I'm just saying, if you're strumming an intricate rhythm, playing on the dynamics and the notes at the same time, it's going to be harder than simply keeping the beat on your knee.

anddddd my fingers a being fuck again

>>69742943
I said it was harder you no reading comprehension having autist

Hey everyone, I was considering buying a Marshall jcm800 because of its sound.
What are your thoughts on that and are there any tube amps that can get the same sound for less $?

/gg/, help me figure out where do I know this song from, shit's driving me crazy!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1nJ7uwOy5nd

>>69732873
I hate that fucking amp. I own one still because nobody has bought it off of me

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anyone know if these are good or should I just get patch cables?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RWF76NK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A322FGWZ8WBOV6

can any of you dudes recommend an acoustic electric pickup, something better than fishman

>>69743311
Is it that bad? I was thinking about getting one so I have something portable

>>69743094
well fuck me you're right
in my defense I had a long day

>>69743326
If your pedals aren't the same height, it'll probably be wonky and you'll need to shove something underneath.

>>69742092
>>69742076
just got the springs and they fall out of the back immediately. Am I doing something wrong or do they just not fit?

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I want to buy a phantomatic designed by Frankie Iero. It's light weight and sounds great on video. Does anybody have opinions on this. I don't want to waste 500$.

>>69731538
I want to be able to play bass like Les....

>>69740244
>Primary used to be a fender jazz.
>Watched K On for the first time
>Bought a MIA precision

Y-Yeah. Just liked that bottom end, you follow me?

>>69743396
Try tightening the claw
I'm pulling upwards on might and they wont budge

>>69743720
Upwards on my springs that is

>>69743720
what would tightening the claw do the problem is the size of the hole

>>69743778
>the problem is the size of the hole
you put them in the tiny hole, not the string holes you retard

>>69743790
thats what i'm doing

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>>69743790
Oh you totally misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the claw springs I'm talking about the small black fender strings that keep the arm static.

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>>69743869
This is the hole they are falling out of

Ayy vocalists. On the topic of backing vocals. Normally they go to a higher note behind your vocals, but what if they go to a lower note? Does it just sound fucked up?

>>69743947
no ideally you want slightly higher and lower backing vocals

How are those Big Muffs with the tone wicker? There's one on Craigslist for only $44 but it's like an hour and a half drive away. Worth it?

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>tfw you want to sell your jazzmaster because your embarrassed by most offset players

>go to friend's house
>a third friend brings over a guitar he just picked up at guitar center
>complains that the audio jack is fucked up on the guitar
>I leave and go somewhere
>come back to find my bass' audio jack is not fucked up, while his guitar's is working perfectly fine

what a piece of shit desu senpai

I fucked a girl he was trying to fuck (wasn't gonna happen anyway) as some petty revenge.

Yes hello how do I get good at guitar?

>>69744051
By learning Nirvana songs until you yourself want to blow your head off. Or find a girl to hire to blow your head off and frame it as suicide, if you roll that way.

>>69744015
Its just a big muff with an extra setting option on it. If you want a big muff go for it, even if you don't like the tone wick mode you can just play it normal.

>>69744028
>my bass' audio jack is now** fucked up
I have to pinch the cable or hold it in a very specific position for it to not sound like shit. If I move slightly it starts buzzing or not sounding at all

>>69744018
TFW you're so insecure you cant just play what you like.

>>69744107
Everyone thinks I play shoegaze or some shitty indie pop now. I bought this because I wanted an HH guitar and it felt nice.

>>69744107
>Those feels when i want to put a big ass weeb sticker on my bass, but putting stickers on guitars is kind of tacky.

>>69743673
in the process of selling my jazz after i bought a mia p . . . no ragrets

>>69744094
Just resolder that shit or buy a new one cheapo online and install it yourself. Easy peazy lemon squeazy.

>>69741062
Oh my word, that is badass. I'm getting that on payday.

>>69743326
These are annoying. Pedals frequently don't line up properly to use them.

new thread when.

>>69745316
now

>>69733379
kek

>>69736975
plenty of us here can do it pretty easily, and you should constantly be trying to yourself.

i'm not saying do it on some super complex layered song, just try it with some strokes songs or something simple

>>69737546
>tfw if you turned up your hot rod deluxe even near the point where you'd get a good overdriven tone you'd be deaf

nobody told me how loud they were

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>>69745509
>tfw I plan on ruining my neighbor's christmas with my 6505

can't wait

>>69745528
godspeed

i can't turn up the fuckin thing past 4. at 3 the house is literally shaking

>>69743232
It's an illusion, don't waste your time good musicians can make anything sound good shitty musicians rely on not having enough money to buy good gear

>>69745592
Yeah my neighbor has called the homeowners association on me twice this year so this is payback. Honestly if I blow out a window I won't even care because it will be worth it. My buddy is even loaning me his 4x12 so I can have a fullstack. its gonna be great.

>>69745663
You're gonna Marty McFly across the room like in that fucking movie kek.

>>69745663
record it and post it on christmas /gg/

>>69745663
inb4 ruptured eardrum

>>69743869
>>69743925
anyone got answers for this

>>69745663
wear those foam ear plugs, and then put on the headset/headphones kind

>>69745509
I was going to get a Deville.

Guy at the store talked me out of it

Super noob question here, so today I got a Boss DD-3 that i ordered a few days ago. It was used and came with no power adapters so I used a spare that had the same volts, when I plugged the pedal in it made a horrible feedback thing on my amp and so I turned it off to try to fix the problem. When I went back to test the pedal gain and had everything plugged in the pedal would not turn on and now I get no response for it. What should I do?

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