/gg/ Guitar and Bass General

first

what is the difference between standard high quality guitars and the super expensive?

for example you can pick up a proper SG for just under a grand, but some versions sell for 4 or 5. why?

>>69719419
trim, options and branding

>>69719419
Gear snobs.

>>69719419
Custom luxury wood/finish
Insanely good setup (action/intonation)
More features such as coil tapping

Tube amp distortion or pedal distortion into a clean tube amp for just playing in a home setting and doing home recording?

>>69719419
Gibson is composed entirely of Jews.

>>69719462
I like both, but for different tasks

I use a BD-2 blues driver for OD and switch back and forth when I need an accessable clean channel, but if I just want to play overdriven I'll turn it up.
But it depends heavily on the amp for me

>>69719419
super expensive luthier guitars (in some cases) = insane quality, all kinds of options available
super expensive corporate guitars (in almost every cases) = overpriced, can't get exactly what you want (you'll never get a strat from the gibson custom shop, while a luthier can do strats or lps without any concern)

>>69719461
>More features such as coil tapping
wow, would you look at that, a feature that takes 10$ worth of components and thirty minutes of soldering, for only a thousand more bucks ! what a steal !

>>69719462
depends on the amp.

>>69719543
>wow, would you look at that, a feature that takes 10$ worth of components and thirty minutes of soldering, for only a thousand more bucks ! what a steal !

I never said I agree with it, any guitar over 2k is a fucking scam, but they do use the best woods in the bin on them so that makes up most of the cost. Not that wood fucking matters other than look and feel.

What is the cheapest acceptable guitar to play on stage with? Nothing big, just a tiny gig
Me and a bandmate have a disagreement

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>mfw im at a concert and the guitarist just spanked the selector to the bridge position so you know shit is about to go down

>>69719605
amplification matters far more in the small time/amatueur circuit

it'll be a wall of sound whatever gear you're using

>>69719605
a used fender mim

>>69719605
Cost doesnt mean shit if you can play and sound good, the audience doesnt know the difference between a gio and a jem. If it sounds like shit people will notice.

People in bands woll notice, but theyre broke as fuck too.

>>69719578
Yeah but at least when wood is an aesthetical and cosmetical argument and can't be changed, coil tap isn't an incredible thing, even mid range (~500€) Schecters have them.
Plus, so many guitarists don't even bother touching their volume/tone control that it barely matters.

>>69719605
Probably something around the 300€ mark. VM Squiers, used MiMs, Indo Ibanez/Schecters/whatever. I wouldn't trust anything else to hold up against anything rough.
Or if you play punk, a first act or a behringer guitar.

>>69719645
And dont use what im saying to go back and make the argument for the strat knock off you got for $30 from the pawn shop. It doesnt sound good, i can gurantee it.

>>69719619
>Not playing leads on the neck pickup

>>69719631
>>69719645
>>69719670

I agree with you anons, thank you

>>69719632
I disagree with this though, I think a VM Squier is just fine

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>>69719691

Every so often my bridge pickup gets much quieter and stringy, usually knocking on the pickguard near the selector switch fixes it.
Is my selector switch fucked? Or should I be more concerned about other aspects?

>>69719730
mate a vm squier and a used mim should cost about the same

>>69719777
solder it back
although there should be some noise when that happens I think

>>69719785
It crackles a bit when I change pickups, is that what you mean?

>>69719809
crackling might be the switch itself
either way it shouldn't be an expensive fix

>>69719752
Based Josh.

>>69719752
>you will never be a handsome 6'4 widely loved rock god

why even live

>>69719849
Wait, that ginger is six fucking four?

>>69719849
>you will never play in standard C on a motorave guitar while playing scales you came up with
life is suffering

>>69719859
according to google

musicians never look their real height on stage

>>69719849
>widely loved rock god
[allah ackbars intensify in the distance]

>>69719884
Thats a lot of souless-ness

>>69719841
Thanks anon

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What is the best EQD pedal? Im planning on ordering either the Depths or Acopulco Gold, but I'm open to recommendations

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>>69719981

>>69719884
I met Paul Gilbert and he's a giant.

>>69720109
Isaac Brock for me, guy is like 5'4". Listened to and watched him for over a decade and had no idea.

>>69719875
>implying he made any original scales

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>fat chap keeps popping up on my suggested videos on youtube
>fuck it, I'll watch one of them, it can't be that bad

buckle up lads because that video is quite a ride
>starts literally with a cringy intro of him soloing
at least there's a bare minimum of phrasing here
>cringy glass breaking sound effect for transitions
>myth one is about starting on acoustic/classical being better
>his only argument is "no because they're different but electric is totally better", says nylon is more physically demanding (jesus christ what)
>myth 2 is about having an amplifier being necessary to practice electric guitar
>somehow he finds a bullshit argument using himself as an example, "you can hear it so it works", without making any mention of ringing open strings which you'll notice less without an amp

>myth 3 is about having to start on an affoardable guitar
so far this is the first time he's been right

>myth 4 is starting on thin strings being better for beginners
a little bullshit but at least his argument stands (a 50 year old woodworker with callouses all over his hands wouldn't feel anything with 9s)

>myth 5 is about learning to read and write being important for being a guitarist
I thought "this is bullshit"
But his arguments are even worse, saying that you don't need to write down anything if you play meal/blooz/rock, and that there some successful players who don't know how (without quoting a single one, nice trick)
but yeah sure don't write anything down, improvise your chorus changes and mess everything up when you take a winter break from rehearsing and forget parts of the song

Tl;Dr : Fat cunt plays uninspired garbage and gives terrible advice.

Why is he so red by the way ? He's almost as red as the LesPaul he's holding, is he a lobster in disguise ?

>>69720199
Not that guy, he obviously follows scale principles but Homme's style is pretty damn unique. Conflicting low end C with a load of high half step riffs. It's illogical but he makes it work.

Helps having incredibly good bandmates too I guess.

>>69720441
oui oui fromage

>>69720441
>is about learning to read and write being important for being a guitarist

if you're thinking about one day being a professional why wouldn't you learn though? artists get away with it because they never need to

session musicians need to sight read sheet music, no room for tabs

>>69720441
>it's only good if it's not "creative"
>listen to my five fuzz pedals and five delay pedals in my chain
>this is real music

>>69720647
>reading sheet music
A better skill is being able to read unorganized hand written numbers

>>69719981
Just build an Acopulco dude

>>69720502
succ my baguette, roast-beef

>>69720647
That's his argument, not mine, I have the same thought as you, writing and reading are powerful tool.

>>69720688
what are you even trying to say

What is the cheapest/best quality power supply? Isolated pls
The moen miso 8 seems like the cheapest option

https://clyp.it/x3yqqukz

shit tone aside, who likey?

>>69720441
>Why is he so red by the way ? He's almost as red as the LesPaul he's holding, is he a lobster in disguise ?

He's embarassed by the quality of your post.

t. the captain

>>69721607
Your playing is nice, why ruin it

>>69721643
my neighbors are home and i can't crank my amp. :(

>>69721078
>what are you even trying to say
You kinda sound like a naive shoegazing teen who relies on effects and doesn't want to learn technique and theory because it might hind your "creativity"

>>69721727
lmao

>>69719388
First off thx for the Hal Leonard bass.

Second I am new to bass and have 2 questions.

Got a Yamaha trbx and it has 3 knobs, 1 for the precision pickup, 1 for jazz pickup, and one for "tone"?

What do these knobs actually do?

Second question is what do the bass, mid and treble knobs on my amp do. How do I tune these for specific songs

I hate the snobs who spend thousands of dollars on high end gear and obsess over toanz to sound like their favourite bands when said bands clearly only uses cheap and accessible gear.

>>69722016
What bands use shit gear?

I agree obsessing over tone is a bit stupid though when artists are pumping through many thousands worth of amp/stacks live and spend months producing and fine tuning their part recordings.

>>69721962

Hey man, nice to see your joining the low end legion.

The knobs for the P pickup and the Jazz pickup are volume knobs, you can turn each one up and down as you see fit for the sound you're looking for. Tone knob filters out the treblier capacitors, making your tone bassier and darker the more you roll it off.

Bass, mid and treble are the tone controls on your amp, they're what your bass sound will be founded upon after your pickups and tone knob position. You use the three to amplify or reduce certain frequencies on your bass, it's the reason so many different bass tones exist, like how different bass tones are in metal, dub and jazz, for example. Move them around until you find your desired sound.

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r8 my cover, /gg/

n-no bully please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spkf5uTNtFQ

>>69722313
unavailable

>>69721622
Damn, you mean he can read into the future ? So this is the power of the Chapman(tm) huh...

>>69721727
How so ? I'm almost the opposite of what you've described. Keep in mind, I agree with next to none of his points I just found the video really stupid.

>>69722360
changed it to public, apologies m8

>>69722313
Kek fuck off third worlder. I'm glad it's not available in here in Freedom McMoney Land.

>>69721962
>First off thx for the Hal Leonard bass.
Thanks for pointing that out. I would've overlooked it.

>>69722473
tidy playing, like the links around the 30 second mark

original basslines?

Can any fingerstyle guitarists help me out?

I'm starting to more seriously practice fingerstyle guitar (specifically Travis picking stuff), but my right hand feels real awkward. My fingers sort of keep getting stuck or caught up on the strings, but I don't think I'm picking too deep. How can I improve my right hand?

Are Album Tab books worth it? I would really love to learn some of the intricate stuff some specific guitarist do, but i don't want to support at sites like ultimate guitar (who 70% of the time have the wrong tab)
I know its better to learn by ear but sometimes i just wanna know a song offhand for fun and actually learn what techniques the actual guitarists of the bands used

>>69722313
p gud senpai

>>69722618

They usually are worth it, yes.

If you don't want to use tab they include notation if you wanna try your hand at music reading.

>>69722267
So i picked this off a forum

20hz - 80hz = ........ Low Bass
80hz - 320hz = ...... Hi Bass, also referred to as Midbass.
320hz - 1280hz = ... Midrange
1280hz - 5120hz = .. High Midrange/Low Treble
5120hz - 20840hz = . High Treble

But from what I understand the bass only goes from around 40 Hz to 400 Hz

So what exactly is the mid and treble knobs doing on an amplifier if those frequencies are not being played directly?

>>69722544
Excercises m8.

http://www.guitarnick.com/romanza-yepes-guitar-tablature.html

This is a guitar teacher classic, easy to play but a good fingerpicking drill.

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>>69722618
i love tab books. though sometimes theyre a bit wrong. youll find that some are better than others. pic related has every single part approved by frusciante for example.

/gg/, help me come to a conclusion
This is driving me nut
How do people keep playing games like guitar hero and rockband without moving on to a real instrument?
All they talk about is score and difficulty
Do they not like music? Are they emotionless? Are they brain dead? I don't get it

I'm thinking of buying an Epiphone les paul custom to get back into music. I haven't played in a while and I've been itching to start again. opinions?

>>69722618
Ive dabbled in the Hal Leonard bass and guitar books for Nirvana tabs.
They are definitely better than ultimate guitar in terms of your timing, key, measure, beats, and rhythm. However they usually only tab out say the first 4 bars of a song then show the chorus and post "rythym figure 1, simile" which means play what we just showed you but it is going to change and we arent going to show you the rest. So it gives you the basic rhythm but lets you decipher the rest.

>>69722698
Awwwwe shit! Is there a place online where I can download this?

>>69722663

The amp still has to be able to process the upper register on your bass, that is to say harmonics and other nice shit the pickup magnets can pick up.

The Hz range each knob controls depends on the instrument the amp is for.

>>69722698
Seconding this, owned quite a few and there's always song tabs you won't find online. Even better if you can read sheet music since basically every artist has an official songbook out there

just bought a swollen pickle fuzz, ama

>>69722704
Some people don't actually want to do the thing. Some people just want to pretend for a bit.

>>69722663
These can vary a lot depending on who made the bass, and they seem weird as 5kHz-20kHz is cymbal territory.
As for bass range, it's a little bit more complex than that, these are the fundamentals of the notes that you're playing, but the ear will also pick the harmonics of it, so when you're hearing a low B on a 5 string, you're not only hearing 30ish Hz.

>>69722776

You need two to post here.

>>69722667
thank m8, I'll try this out.

I can play some Chet Atkins stuff, the left hand is absolutely fine, but I can't help but feel as if I'm doing something wrong with the right hand. my fingers just keep getting hung up on the strings, and I'm thinking maybe my right hand placement is wrong, though it doesn't seem to be.

>>69722704
I didn't realize anybody still played those kinds of games. Seemed like a fad. I had a lot of fun with them when they first came out even though I already played an instrument.

I eventually quit in a moment of self reflection I had after spending about an hour trying to learn the solos in Hangar 18 in practice mode.

https://youtu.be/PNssWUM4kb8

>>69722704
well they clearly like music if they play them

instruments are hard work and expensive. takes ages to see actual progress and you need to stay motivated. not everybody is willing

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>>69722530
>>69722620
cheers m8s. I followed the synth bass sounding thing from the original track. This bass guitar's strings are all rusty end smell weird

>>69722475
y-you too

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why did this lose popularity? will it make a comeback?

>>69722838
>my fingers just keep getting hung up on the strings

What do you mean?

Also are you playing nylon or steel string?

>>69722904
I prefer the EHX Iron Lung.

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For the metal lads, this one has the songs in both standard notation and tab, and all the transcriptions were actually done by the guitarist. Pretty neat.

>>69722904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF0lVn3n12I

>>69722998
Steel string, though a long time ago I studied classical (when I was like 14) and played on nylon.

I don't quite know how to explain it, it happens when playing with a pick too sometimes, I can't do stuff like tremolo or faster strumming reliably (for reference https://vimeo.com/11404399). If I hold the pick any looser, it a) just slides so far away toward my palm that it's the tip of my index finger and side of the thumb that are touching the strings and/or b) won't go through the strings, it just gets stuck. Though I can play most single note stuff just fine. At first I thought I'm playing to strong, but is it possible to play too lightly, i.e. not firmly enough?

As to fingerpicking, my fingers sometimes get stuck or hung up on the strings, like I'm fighting with the strings though I'm not really digging in very deep or anything. It's especially problematic when I'm doing a forward roll on the last 4 strings, it just feels kind of ''crowded'' if that makes sense, and it won't come out right.

Another thing is, when playing fingerstyle, should you pluck with the very tip of the fingers, or more with pads?

Appreciate any help.

>>69722904
>tfw have that exact pedal
>tfw used it once
>"neat"
>and never used it again.

I'm trying out tuning to A = 432Hz and A = 445Hz, to see if there's really a difference.
So far it's confirming my idea that it's just placebo bullshit, there's barely any difference when playing at 440Hz.

https://youtu.be/6wCmilX8QKM

I don't see a drum general so I'm gonna ask my dumb question here

Does the rug have to be a drum-specific rug or can I just get any tacky ass rug from a thrift store and use it for that?

What are the /mu/-core pedals?

I know a lot of you (me included) like the MXR Carbon Copy Delay.

>>69723589
You need a tone rug.

>>69723657

I bought some rug tubes for the warm tone

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>>69722817
should i sell my bass big muff or keep it?

anyone have experience with noisemaker effects pedals?

>>69723589
Buy a proper drum mat, they're designed to keep your rig in place and muffle buzz.

>>69723733

I'm not a fan of the bass Big Muff, I prefer using a regular old ass russian Muff.

Noisemaker makes ok pedals, they're cheaply made but they ain't bad. Guy has nice ideas and some sound real good.

>>69723737

Will do, thanks anon.

>>69723614
fulltone ocd
tc hall of fame
tc ditto x4
catalinbread belle epoch
neunaber immerse
ehx bad stone
ehx big muff pi
mxr 10 band eq
mxr dyna comp
strymon el capistan
voodoo lab tremolo
diamond memory lane
boss dd-7

some great sounding pedals that a lot of people use and are worth checking out

>>69722704
>why do people play racing games? Why dont they just become professional race car drivers?
>why do people play first person shooters? Why dont they just become space marines and go fight the alien menace?
>why do people play grand theft auto? Why dont they just go steal, kill, and deal with no consequences?

You get my point. You have to sacrifice a lot of time to become a decent guitar player, and you will most likely never play on big stages. My question.

>why do people play guitar hero? That shit always sucked and the novelty wore off years ago

Rockband was kind of fun, singing and playing drums like a retard in any piblic place unlucky enough to have it set up.

>>69723794
thanks, i generally just have a list of stuff i would like to try, and then wait for something on the list to buy used near me. then i can just resell if i don't like it.

for noisemaker i like the sound of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh0Mxttv3tg

but i think i am looking for a nice creamy fuzz which i thought i could get with their crush fuzz that they no longer make.

their pedals seem to be a one trick pony though. they pedals all do one kind of specific tone and that is it.

>>69723847
A buddy of mine spends hours on rockband playing the drums and sweating
The interesting part he has a whole band in the other room and he never touches any of the instruments
i guess next time I'm over at his place I'll tell him to get on the drums and we'll play paranoid or something simple assuming that he developed anything real by playing rockband

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just got a $450 martin x series. i love the sound, it's very bassy and LOUD. my style is that I strum very heavily. I'm conflicted, because I played on a $299 yamaha fg730 or fg 8xx and it sounded almost as good and because I read online that martin x series' artificial laminated woods are deteriorating easily and affect playability at a long run.

tl;dr : what are some of the best $500 acoustics out there that are made for hard strumming and are as loud and bassy as this martin that i've got? please give me some suggestions. thanks

>>69723212
>this was why I wanted one

>>69724255
I've never played rockband drums, does it build limb independence?

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is this going to give sweet rich tones?

>>69724609
no, get some with smug anime girls instead

>>69724634
any anime girls in specific? not into anime

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Any fa/gg/s have this pedal?

It sounds great in demos.

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>mfw learning barre chords as a handlet

It's not fair...

>>69724905
it's alright to slightly angle your wrist fellow handlet

or do a jimi and barre with your thumb

>>69724470
From what I played when I was younger you're looking at the screen and trying to hit everything on time without really thinking

When I started to play real drums, I had no real feel for time and struggled with things like playing the bass drum off beat

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It was my birthday today, I got three new pedals, this is my collection up to date, rate my gear, guess which ones where new and guess what type of music I play

>>69724937
>or do a jimi and barre with your thumb
and completely fuck your wrist along

>>69724963
>looper, delay, two choruses and three distortions
you could have gone full cliche and added the offset too

>>69724963

pretty good setup anon, I like it

>>69724963
how do you like those pedal tuners? im in the market for one and not sure if i should get the one you have for like $50 used or what.

I started to learn about chord-tone soloing. One thing I'm trying to figure out is how the blues tonality works. For instance, minor pentatonic soloing over a major chord progression is common in rock and blues.

I worked out that in I-IV-V, of the I chord, the major third is not part of the minor pentatonic scale. Of the IV chord, again its third is not part of the minor pentatonic (with root of I) and of the V chord, both the third and the fifth are not part of the minor pentatonic (of I).

Yet many guitarists apparently just solo the minor pentatonic (of I) over the entire progression. So my question is, when you use chord tones, you usually play chord tones on the downbeat and passing tones or neighbor tones on the upbeats.

If you're on a V chord and you're using the chord tones + the minor pentatonic of I, what set of tones would you use as the downbeat? The chord tones? It sounds weird when I try to do it this way.

Any resources explaining these type of ideas?

>>69724963
Happy Birthday!
>Tuner, DS-2 and the flashback
>80's rocky stuff
& that small clone sounds amazing

>>69725001
nah only the low E

muting in that shape is required for certain chord voicings anyway

>>69725068
>muting in that shape is required for certain chord voicings anyway
because why learn proper technique and mute the upper strings with your right hand or slightly touching it with the index/major when you can make it awkward and painful

>>69725017
The offset? What is this cliche I'm missing, I tried so hard

>>69725019
Thanks

>>69725035
Pretty happy with the Boss TU-3, I perform sometime and have been using a crap clip on tunner, nearly all the bands I've seen live use the TU-3 or the polytune, I won't know exactly how good it is till I use it live, but its a tuner and it works so theres not much to complain about

>>69725060
Cheers, Tuner and Flashback are correct, and I got the small clone for £30 ($37) second hand which was half price, pretty happy with it too

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I'm making a winter project of building an amp with my buddy who's really good at wood working. But we're kinda clueless on the electronics and stuff and what kind of speakers we'd wanna put in it. I'm not really sure what to get, we're gonna be using the dimensions of an Orange 2x12, what do we need to get?

>>69725132
If you bought the Orange amp you could gut it and stick it in the cabinet you where going to build, it would so professional and people would think it was dead fancy

>>69725132
Speakers first and foremost

>>69725101
as a dedicated rhythm guitarist left/right muting depends entirely on the style you're playing.

how on earth are you going to exclude or mute strings in fast tempo slash patterns?

>>69725225
left hand muting, push simply the index a little further and you're blocking the string up from the string you're fretting, no weird wrist angle involved, and you can go back to playing melodic lines within a second.

>>69725132
Just the amp cabinet? Building an amplifier is a whole new ballgame, a lot to keep track of. Even people experienced with electronics may have difficulty.

As far as wiring the cabinet, you need to know the output impedance needed by the amplifier its going to be used with. Generally 4, 8, or 16 ohms.

Speakers in series double in impedance(2 8 ohms in series make a 16 ohm load).

Speakers in parallel are half the impedance(2 8 ohms on parallel make a 4 ohm load).

So if your amp needs an 8 ohm load, wire 2 4ohm speakers in series or wire to 16 ohm speakers in parallel.

The next important thing is power handling, you dont want speakers that can handle the output power of your amp. Its cumulative, mostly. Things can happen. So of you have a 100watt amp head(that will likely peak over 100watts if you dime it) then 2 80watt speakers will probably cut it. 2 50 watt speakers may not.

You can put a 40 watt speaker next to an 80watt speaker, there should be minimal perceived difference in sound.

>>69725101
You're making me want to fret things properly now
Playing a D/F# chord really fucks me up when I use my thumb

>>69725312
Sorry, just got off a 12 hour shift.

*you dont want speakers that CAN'T handle your amps power output

*there should be no perceivable difference in VOLUME, not sound

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socially inept, bass anon looking for band from last thread here, i went up to a few buskers and gave them my details and this guy actually responded, how bad did i fuck up?

>>69725426
Nice one, keep at it. More people you know the better, bands always need someone to fill in randomly

How good are you at jamming/improv?

>>69725426
You probably wont talk to him again

Doesnt seem like a big loss

Try again, youll find people.

>>69725312
Thanks a lot. I'm just building the cab since I dont know shit about building an amp and I already have one.

So specifically I'm looking to build a 2x12 that can handle 120 watts (I'm playing through an Or100 head), the cabinet I'm using is two celestion vintage 30s that are 16 ohms that I'm splitting and running at 8 ohms. My question is what do I need and what kinds of speakers should I be looking at.

>>69725369
Oh yeah also if you're not using the index, you can just pseudo-barre the rest of the strings and mute them all at once, it also works great when doing single string leads.
Or you can leave your major finger hanging over it, kinda like if you were almost fretting it or doing a natural harmonic.
Apart from a few cases (giant hands or narrow necks), using the thumb doesn't give you any sort of advantage and limits your reach a lot.

>>69723372
go A=415

trve baroque tuning

>>69725524
>How good are you at jamming/improv?
jesus christ this gives me anxiety just reading it, i only play solo and never play anything but scales and some songs, i was thinking of just learning a bunch of modes and practicing with them rather than learning actual songs until i find someone who needs me.

>>69725538
should i keep going for buskers?

some guy i was talking to said he doesnt use metronomes since he didnt want to build a dependency on them, he seems very knowledgeable on music. Is this an actual thing or was i being rused?

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>>69722704
>not playing rocksmith

>>69725665
As long as you know key/chord root fundamentals you'll be fine. No small band expects their bassist to be amazing, just to be in time

Tip, if you end up in a band get a recording of your drummer isolated. Build your lines and melodies from there.

>>69725708
There's no one way to learn to play guitar anon, just be urself :^)

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How are these for pedals?
I'm trying to build a cheap pedalboard for bedroom use. not really focused on getting "the right tone" just having workable pedals and experimenting with them and fleshing out rough songs

>>69725808
>As long as you know key/chord root fundamentals
sorry for asking to be spoon fed but do you know any textbooks or websites where i could learn this off of? the book im using is really basic and only explains modes and simplified chords

>>69725650
meh, I decided it's as pointless as downtuning for more chugs, it barely even feels different for just one guitar, maybe for an orchestra but for a three/four piece ?

>>69725665
pick random songs and learn how to find the root based on the chord progression
then from playing the root, you add some more syncopation depending on the drums, maybe a couple notes from the arpeggio of the chord they're playing and eventually if you're confident enough, small fills
That's how you jam bass for most genres, in principle it is rather simple.

>>69725708
that's extremely stupid to do
in a normal playing situation, guitar, drums and bass will have a sharp and almost instant attack, meaning that if these don't line up, the band sounds sloppy.

>>69725878
links in the op

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Post essential /gg/core

What's the best instrument cable? Is monster just a meme?

>>69725888 (checked)
thanks, based anon!

>>69725724
>Notes for bark at the moon are wrong
DROPPED

>>69725982
The arrangements on the game are more accurate than any you'll find online

>>69725708
even the very top orchestral drummers use click tracks

obviously they can keep perfect time without one, but it aids reverting from fills and instant recovery if a mistake were to happen

>>69726067
yea im going to stick with playing with a metronome on in this case. if im trying to build good tempo, would playing scales by hitting a note on each click be a good way?

>>69726105
practice making small melodic phrases from a scale instead of just the scale itself, it helps build creativity

>>69726105
Scales are good, yeah. Start slow until you can play perfectly to a set beat, then start practicing at different tempos and finally switching between them whilst playing.

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>>69725910

essential

>>69726228
>and finally switching between them whilst playing.
i can already do this at 120 pretty effortlessly, i hear if you play even slower its somehow good for building speed, is that true?

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>>69725054
>I started to learn about chord-tone soloing. One thing I'm trying to figure out is how the blues tonality works.
Depends on what kind of blues. Most common are Minor Blues and Major (Dominant) Blues.

It sounds like you're talking about the Major Blues, so let's say you're in A so your I, IV, and V are A7, D7, and E7, respectively.

The minor third you're talking about is more like a #9 in the context of a Dominant chord. Common jazzy alterations on Dominant chords are sharped or flatted 5ths and sharped or flatted 9ths. That's why what we usually think of as the minor third works on the I chord. It's the #9. In Blues it's a very common move to bend this note slightly sharp to almost meet the major third. You can also mess around with playing both the minor third (#9 here) and the major third one after the other.

Over the IV chord, D7 in this case, what was our minor third or #9 is now the b7 of the D7 chord. This also makes the same note work great because it's a chord tone of D7.

Over the V chord, its role changes again, this time to that of a #5 of E7. As I said, #5 is another one of these jazzy alterations that can be made to a dominant chord, so that's why it still sounds like it fits, though on this chord it's more of a tension note.

You should learn arpeggios to really be able to find all the chord tones that sound consonant, because arpeggios are simply the notes of the chord played individually.

So if you play an A Dominant arpeggio over A7, you're playing all the notes of A7 individually and can feel pretty good about landing on any of them.

Same with D Dominant arpeggio over D7, and E Dominant arpeggio over E7.

Somebody correct me if I fucked up somewhere.

>>69725939
The one that works and doesnt break like the wires are taped on instead of soldered.

>>69719730
vm squiers and cv squiers are both good, but desu branding is kind of important to normies and a lot of people will take a chance to visit the bathroom/text/have a smoke when they see your band come on with a bunch of squiers

>>69726400
whats her name?

>>69726452
shelly

>>69724905
What length hands would be considered handlet tier?
Mine are 20cm and they always felt a little inadequate for playing

>>69722313
japshit is nippy but you can play ok

id play with you

>>69726437
>a lot of people will take a chance to visit the bathroom/text/have a smoke when they see your band come on with a bunch of squiers

lmao

>>69726452
just get regular fenders

>>69726452
You must seek her out.

I found some "monster classic" cables, $22 for 20 ft about 3 years ago. Havent quit, havent shown signs of quitting, only $5 more than the cheapest one they had.

I was going to get more but now theyre closer to $35.

Theyre nice, i dont believe cable quality affects sound quality, i only look for reliability. Easily the most reliable cables ive owned, ever, and theyve been abused.

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>>69726437
>>69726510
I'm paranoid, this is my guitar, do people think I'm a pleb?

Pedal noob here.

I have a solid state amp. Does that mean an overdrive pedal won't work for me? Can you only use overdrives with tube amps?

>>69726582
how does this play and sound? i was interested in the HH model.

>>69726040
https://youtu.be/2akLS8kmRjU

>>69726587

You can use any pedal with any amp.

On a SS amp the tone will be quite a bit different since they don't break up as """warmly""" as tubes do or whatever, but an overdrive is an overdrive no matter the amp.

>>69726582
I've never met a musician in my entire life judge someone by their gear

>>69726603
Well I liked it, but bare in mind that it's only my second guitar

The front pickups are nice a base-y, I use a lot of distortion and fuzz effects so it sounds very full. The back pickups are nice and twangy, if I'm playing clean I tend to use them, but I'm still kind of a beginner, only been playing a little over 10 months

>>69726649
Fair point

>>69719388
https://youtu.be/e260uVtpg00

>Monet and Guitar

>>69726649
you've never met a soundguy or had an opening act using all line 6 half stacks

>>69726744
explain the meme please?

>>69726744
Techies are assholes yeah, but who gives a fuck about them.

But otherwise I've both played and seen people play crap and nobody cares. The only instrument not to cheap out on are drums imo, crappy cymbals sound truly awful.

>>69726767
soundguys are judgemental pricks. basically tone and gear snobs that can't actually play. Like most people in this thread

>>69726800
Cheers, heres your (you)

>>69726799
>Techies
I don't get why they get called techies and "sound engineers." They read a manual and turn some knobs and move some faders. Ideally, the less they move them the better.

Somebody stop me if I'm out of line.

Obviously I think guys like this dude are respectable:

https://youtu.be/kklGMpv0t0o

>>69722698
That tab book pretty much taught me how to play guitar

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who makes nice tele bodies on the cheap?

>>69726649
>tfw I judge people by their gear

am I cancer, /gg/?

>>69727037
Other than a few small stage festival slots I've only ever played small clubs so I've only dealt with shit and bitter engineers.

Studio guys on the other hand are pretty amazing, acoustics and recording are a science after all and those guys really know their shit.

>>69719388
running my guitar through a focusrite solo gen 2, getting serious delay on guitar rig 5, can anyone help?

>>69727143
True, true.

>>69727177
Use ASIO driver.

>>69726582
other musicians dont

plebs might (fyi 90% of your audience is plebs)

>>69727037
ur front of house guy can literally make or break your performance.

>>69727201
using asio, still getting a huge delay

>>69727205
>audience
>caring or even noticing what you're playing

>>69727354
>caring or even noticing that you're playing
ftfy

>>69727385
>not playing student nights at shitholes where everyone is wasted

don't even need to worry about fucking up

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>be me
>at open mic night
>finish set
>grabbin a pint
>realize i forgot pedals on stage
>go back to get them
>see next band setting up
>notice guy's pedalboard
>tuner, wah, two metal zones, delay
>two metal zones
>mfw i thought metal zones were just a meme

>>69727458
What did he play?

>>69727440
i have gotten more bathroom head on country night at a student bar than anywhere else in my life

How do I write in 7/8 that don't sound like slaughtered 8/8?

>>69727201
ASIO: Input 16.6ms, Processing: 11.6ms, Output 5.0ms, Overall 33.2ms,

latency 512 samples

>>69727463
bluegaze

>>69727498
afaik latency is a common problem with scarlett stuff

>>69727140
Yes, quite frankly you are.

>>69727490
any tips for going to a bars to get laid for a robot?

>>69727504
Kek, I should totally do a cover of Dream House at my next small acoustic open mic, I'm sure nine minutes of me screaming and shreding guitar would go down really well

>>69726615

I don't care for the way that song is played as originally recorded. The stuff he does just sounds out of tune. Yeah he can argue tension and resolution and assorted buzz words but I think a lot of it sounds bad. Song sounds better, to me, when you remove the out of key notes he adds.

>>69727521
well shit. Running the device through focus rite, im no gettign a delay but it's picking up my mic now even though I have the focusrite set to instrument

>>69727532
drink copious amounts

take up smoking and talk to people outside

>>69727532
>find out where the sorority sluts go
>learn to play nu-country (brad paisley, cole swindell, florida georgia line, etc)
>dress the part
>act like youre the hottest shit in the place


if you already know one girl in the sorority its cake, because you're already 'in' with them and a safe choice for casual sex.

living in the south where half the girls are dumb as shit helps

>>69727586
so i could hypothetically just go now, walk into a bar, buy a drink, talk to other people near the bar table thing and flirt enough to get laid?

>>69727606
My dick isn't worth being a fag

>>69727492
Don't

7/8 is easily the gayest time signature

>>69727576
Nevermind im a huge idiot. Realized Input 1 was micophone and Input 2 was guitar.

Put device to focusrite, kept asio on, and just turned input 1 off. Got it working now, no latency lag

>>69727606
I remember some absolute twat murdering Smiths covers in his acoustic set at one of my locals.

It worked though, got swarmed by girls after.

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>>69727627

>>69727492
With constant quarter notes in the rhythm section that don't reset on the new measure. So pretty much 7/4 over 7/8 and they sync back up every other measure. Grooves surprisingly well

>>69727642
what decice is this? T2 or something like that?

>10,000 hours to master an instrument
>tfw thinking about how many I've spent shitposting on 4chan

which is the next logical step in a bassist career after learning how to play Joy Division?

>>69728176
Learning how to play guitar

>>69728176
i also want to know this

>>69728176
mastery

>>69728193
But guitar is boring.

>>69728176
this
xhamster com/movies/6772314/fucking_my_ass_with_my_bass_guitar.html

>>69728176
Death metal

>>69728224
You play bass

>>69728224
>>69728245
different strokes (or plucks!) for different folks, am i right guys?? :-)

>>69728245
>twiddly guitarplebs will never experience the groove

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How do you count this out?

One and Two and three Four and A?

>>69728284
You might enjoy this video >>69728232

>>69728301
>Fumbling bassplebs will never experience the shred

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>>69728337
>i will never experience the shred
thanks god

>>69728337
less is more, guitarfags just over compensate for being manlets who cant hold a man sized bass

>>69728404
>man sized bass
The girth of my dick is larger than most bass necks

>>69728315
One and two a three and e and

>>69728442
The manlet pulls his high chair closer to the desk and reaches for his keyboard, he sees a post mocking his precious guitar that previously belonged to a 12 year old. "fucking lanklets and their long necks", he mutters under a strained breath and begins to type
>The girth of my dick is larger than most bass necks
He leans back feeling relieved, his internet honor was saved. Those tall freaks may bully me in high school but on the internet I am the bully, he thinks to himself with a devilish and crusty smile.

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>>69728549
Just look at it

>>69728549
>Bass
How to get sloppy seconds from lead guitarists and singers starter pack.

>>69728594
little man, im referring to the length of the neck, not the width. Can you honestly tell me that your arms reach out long enough to press the first fret?

>>69728606
>tfw bassist but much better looking than the singer

all good

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>>69725724
Dean

>>69728606
>yfw bill wyman was the ugliest stone but fugged >1000 chicks

not even a bassist but instrument doesnt matter desu

I want to sell a guitar on ebay. When I finally do sell it, what is better - to try and find a box that can fit a gig bag with an electric inside, or to just take it somewhere like the UPS store where they package it for you?

I've tried a Lowe's and a Walmart and can't find a box that can fit something of these dimensions

>>69728850

You forgot the being a member of one of the biggest bands of all time bit

>notice a huge difference in tone between 64 and 512 sample rates
>too much delay on 512
>remember my only alternative is a cheap no name ss amp
>back to 64

>>69728176

Okay, music is not like a video game where the learning progression is continually moving to more and more difficult stuff. That can be a component of it but it's more important that you play WELL, cleanly, on time, with good technique so each note sounds its best. For bass, you really want to be extra diligent about always playing in the pocket. Guitarists can get away with playing a little in front of or behind the beat for effect but that's only possible because the bass and the drummer are holding the thing together while they do so. That is just the nature of rhythm vs. melody sections of a band.

So keep learning stuff you like that may seem easy on the surface but learn it perfectly. Not 85% can get through it good enough. Perfect. If there are problems with your technique; vibrato not so good, legato playing has inconsistent tone between notes (hammer on/pull off/slide), muting isn't down so you have sympathetic string noise going on, etc.

In other words, git gud. And recognize that there is a whole lot more to it than just playing faster more complicated stuff.

>>69728368
go back to russia

help me /gg/

I'm in mortal danger of buying one of the new 2017 Fender meme guitars

>>69727544
F# isn't out of key.

>>69728839
I had 2 epiphones once they were crap. I hope to get good enough to be sponsored by Dean one day

>>69728896
yea that probably helps

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>>69728940
forgot pic

>>69728941
I guess I should say F since he's tuned down a half-step.

>>69728893
Drop in to local music shop and ask if they have any extra guitar boxes. Usually they do. Shipments of new guitars all come in those boxes and the stores just toss them in to the cardboard recycling.

>>69728893
buy a cheap shit hard case and bump your price up accordingly

much easier than having to deal with the shit of of a guitar broken in transit

>>69728902
why do bassists lead the drummer? they're the ones with an autopilot thumping bass drum.

>>69729012
They don't. Or not usually unless the song calls for that. I'm not sure what your question is. The bass and drums should be in sync, tight cohesive unit of rhythm. Drummer dictates tempo for the whole band.

>>69729055
well afaik it's common practice for drummers to have a direct feed of the bassist.

if anything shouldn't it be the other way round? would seem easier to play melodies and accentuate root notes if you're playing to the kick beat.

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>>69729055
If the drummer keeps time for the whole band who keeps time for the drummer? What if the drummer throws himself and everybody else off causing everybody else to scramble to keep up in the midst of a gig.
Well now that is no longer a problem.
Introducing the Pulse by Soundbrenner Technologies. Now you can set a tempo and every member of the band wearing a Pulse will feel the beat and be perfectly synchronized!

>>69729165
In semi professional and up settings is common practice for everyone to have a click track in their inner ear. High level performers often have cues

"Hook-2-3-4" for example then back to just a click

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Is it okay to take this thin plastic sticking sheet off the coils? It's starting to slip

>>69729298
Thats just to keep it from getting scratched before you buy it and its your responsibility. Take it off.

>>69729298
That's see-through tone tape
Try to keep that on for as long as possible
Once it comes off replace the pickups

>>69729165
It just pulses a static beat?

You've got to be pretty fucking bad to need that.

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>>69728902
>>69729012
>>69729055
>>69729136
>>69729165
>>69729249
>tfw bassist is ahead of the beat, drummer is behind the beat, and the whole band follows the guitarist

Why does everyone have those buckle style straps on their guitars now?

>>69729298
Drives me nuts when people won't peel this shit off a guitar. It's like those old plastic sofa covers that old people seem to like for some unknown reason.

My personal theory is they make scat videos in their spare time.

Don't be an elderly scat fetishist. Peel your guitar. It's for the best.

>>69729340
i know these feels, played in some shite bands before

including a drummer with a tendency to just stop midway through a song

>>69729340
>falling for the bassist/drummer following meme

>>69729298
>He removed his anti static magnet resistor.

You should have at least burned the guitar for the fun it instead of ruining it like this.

>>69729355
My buddy used to do that, stop abruptly. We were just jamming, but he would be baled out of his mind. It happened so often cause i was having too much fun messing with him. Wed be grooving along in 4/4, then id play only 3 beats and start repeating the passage.

Actually worked pretty well, the stuff that we were coming up with was a lot like isis, but slower and weird. The out of place pauses sounded cool. I was playing through 2 cranked jcm half stacks.

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Am i meming?

>>69729475
Don't you dare remove the tone paper around the knobs

>>69729475
are those epi sg pros any good?

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>>69728315
That's terribly notated - having the dotted eighth note carrying over a beat is poor rhythmic spelling.

Better done like pic related

>>69729576
Different anon here. Yes. Fret work is kinda unfinished, you can feel nubs. If you get that sorted out its solid. Only sub $1000 guitar ive ever owned that isnt getting new pickups. Needed no set up outside of lowering the action, and i got it pretty low.

>>69729492
At least he still has the tone film on the pups.

That would ruin any worth that guitar might have.

>>69729576
The neck is kind of heavy but its pretty good for its price range

>>69729701
>Sheet music is superior
>Look at 5 dots per chord
>Locate said notes on fretboard after consulting the sheet music dictionary: guitar edition
>Place fingers on chord
>Strum Chord

Wew only have to do that 1850 more times and I will have learned the whole song.

>>69729814
wtf are you on about?

>>69724786
my friend bought th eolder pinnacle. Sounds fantastic and is GREAT.

I opened a loki rift and despite having mostly gooks on my list it got finished! yay

>>69729840
Tabs are better unless you are some autistic savant.

>>69729840
hes butthurt cuz he cant sight read

What's a good amp for 400 and under.

>>69729893
>autistic savant

or a professional musician

yeah sight reading is hard and requires practice, who'da thunk it

>>69729893
he did post tabs though....

>>69729841
Thanks man, I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and fork over the cash for it.

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>>69729900
Fender Bassbreaker 007

>>69729940
Yeah man I HIGHLY recommend it. Sounds JUST as good as the big one, and it sounds amazing even into his janky crate solid state. Wampler makes incredible shit, I really want a Triple Wreck, but I dont have that kinda dosh for that one. Also try out a Soverign if you can, not that it's better or anything, but if you want a different flavor of distortion that is in the same range, you might enjoy it!

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Thinking about buying myself a pedalboard for christmas. I don't have any pedals atm. is this a good one? Seems like it has every sound I would need

>>69730290

What? No. Get a multi effects unit if you want a bunch of stuff to mess with. Otherwise just buy the pedals you want, velcro them to a plank of wood, get a daisy chain wall-wart or a pedal power source, done.

Do my sweeps sound like shit?

https://clyp.it/jyz1c1zj

>>69730341
>multi effects unit
like a line 6 amp? I thought they were bad

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>>69730341
this is my amp btw

>>69730290
Never buy a multi effect. It's better to dedicate a pedal to one good sound instead of getting a bunch of mediocre ones. And don't buy a board, make one out of wood or something. I made mine out of lexan plastic and 8020

>>69730373
Not the amps, the multi effects pedals. The line 6 one is the best bang for buck one that there is, I recommend it. also I have the RP250 and its fantastic just for looking at different types of effects that you can use. I wouldnt gig with one ( a multi effect) but they're helpful to have around

>>69730405
I agree partially, I would recommend buying one if a beginner, because it helps to try out everything.

When they refer to an acoustic amp, does it mean its only meant for acoystic guitars?

>>69730431
yes

pickuped acoustics sound terrible with normal amps

>>69730486
I see, thanks for the headsup

>>69730405
>>69730421
>>69730290
>buying pedals

No multifx are the way to go.
What happens if you're playing a set and the first song calls for a long delay and the chorus needs a shorter delay? You bend over and fiddle knobs halfway through the song?

What if the breakdown needs a chorus, phaser and reverb? You just tap tap tap while trying to play and then tap tap tap them off? the beauty of multifx is you can make your settings at home and just tap once to change patches that can change your whole sound all at once.
The cheap multifx probably sound bad for giging but you can go direct without an amp and its passable. some of the more expensive multifx units sound great like the helix or ax8 etc

cheap multi effects pedals don't sound all that great. if youre going to that way you really need to pay a lot for a good one.

>>69730619
they're not good enough for gigging or recording but perfectly fine for bedroom playing and jamming with some mates

>>69730545
https://youtu.be/l5IjTXYgp9A

new thread when

>>69730649
They're fine for gigging -
>setup all your patches sequentially for your setlist
>move on to the next bank with the next song.

>>69725724
my nigga

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Guys, could someone please tell me the model of my guitar. It's supposed to be a prototype from a epiphone 90's series (made in japan). haven't found any other like it on google.

>>69725724
If only we could play online with other people.

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>>69725910
This is /gg/core. As is this one.

>>69728301
>>69728337
>I play both bass and guitar
suck these digits

>>69729351
underrated

>>69731134
So close.
Check out how you really get digits though.

>>69731191
nah man it's gotta be like this

>>69730985
coronet

stop it

>>69731291
So close

>>69730985

I like it. Neat guitar.

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>>69731259
kinda thought so. But it has the epiphone elite signature at the back tho, So im not really sure if its a coronet.

>>69731435
Elite/Elitist was a line of Epis that had fancy woods and whatnot
the model is a Coronet

NEW THREAD TIME

>>69731538

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>>69730373

Don't listen to this retard >>69730421, Line 6 amps are absolute shit same with the multi effects. I'm all for cheap gear as long as its good, but with line 6 you get 500 effects and every single one is garbage. Not a bang for your buck...

If you want to get into effects its kind of a pain in the ass, but you have to assemble a board with the pedals you like. I actually built my own out of some left over wood and Velcro and shit.

>>69723614
I've seen lots of people with the Blues Driver too.
Rv-6 and Swollen Pickles for the memes

>>69724470
It's pretty good for everything but keeping time, honestly