/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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daily reminder to fucking lurk more you stupid fucking idiots holy shit i'm so tired of you all

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>>68726437
I think the Iceman's a neat design.

DOD Overdrive Preamp 250

or

Earthquaker Acapulco Gold

???

>>68726437
>tfw I had to sit through CKY before a GWAR show
they literally had a CD player with a recording of people chanting CKY to try and get the crowd excited

>>68726533
Plus you can hang your reusable grocery bags on the cut.

>>68726556
that's pretty meta

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Has anyone here hired an actual live guitar teacher rather than teach themselves off of internet videos?

>>68726748
Nah. I had an instructor for trombone but not for guitar.

>>68726748
>hiring a teacher yourself instead of having your parents do it when you're 13
What are you, some kind of strange 30-year-old man learning guitar?

>>68726748
Yes. I took lessons for a few months when I was a beginner. Helped out a ton. Should go back for more.

>>68726622
it had the opposite of the desired effect. Most of the crowd turned their backs and flipped the bird.

>>68726748
I went for about a year when I was 10. Learned some basic scales an technique. Fucked around on and off just learning songs. Recently went back to the same guy to try and make up for my severe theory deficit.

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http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/192/lot/82530/?url=%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F192%2F%3Fpage%3D5%26key%3D%26cat%3D1164%26xclosed%3Dno

Would you cop, /gg/?

>>68726542
acapulco gold
i want one now wtf

>>68727428
>estimate $4000-$6000

What kind of retard do they have making those estimates.

>>68727496
my guess is they're basing it all off the fact that he toured with it during his last tours, adn teh whole "last guitar he ever played thing". They're looking at it more as a collector's piece than as an instrument.

>>68727518
>>68727562

I know, i meant their estimate is way too low. I don't even listen to a lot of Zappa and I recognize that guitar

Who exactly is this 'Roman' fellow?

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>>68727619

h2practice regularly?
/no motivation/

>>68727803
get into the habit of it, then when you don't do it you feel bad
for motivation listen to guitarists you like, kinda works for me maybe

>>68727803
LeBeouf.png

>>68726748
had a very cool teacher when I first started, I remember once during a lesson he got a call from his wife telling him their pet bird had been Kilkenny a hawk pmsl

>>68727877
killed by*

Are solid state amps like Fender 85's used by Jonny Greenwood inferior to tube amps? If so or otherwise why did he use them, cheap?

>>68727710
But I'm not him, trust me

>>68727756
You're right
>>68727957
Go look through the previous thread

i want an 8 string and i dont know why

someone talk me into it / talk me out of it

>>68728015
I plan on getting one at some point for ambient guitar. At least if I find a good deal.
Yeah I'll probably chug on it too

>>68728029
im interested in an 8 string because playing a 6 string bass has conditioned me for gigantic fucking instruments. most guitars just feel like guitar hero controllers to me they're so small. i think the longer scale length and wider neck of an 8 string would be more comfortable.

>>68728063
Do you know how to play a 6 string guitar?

>>68728093
yes

>>68728115
Do you have disposable income?

>>68728124
i see where this is going
yes i do

>>68728130
Do you have anything else you're considering buying? If so, what?

>>68728136
a nice 4x10 bass cabinet. im currently using a 2x10 combo as the cab for my head

Anyone have a clue what a 1x18 bas cab would sound like with a guitar and guitar amp?

>>68728159
Which do you need more?

>>68728167
combine it with a 4x12 and youve got a doom metal rig for the ages

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>>68728167
prolly pretty bassy

>>68728174
the cab, by far.
8 string would basically be a toy. id get a used one for cheap

>>68728190
Definitely wait on getting that toy then. Get yourself a real good cab

>>68726980
post irony?

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Got the finishing touch for my pedal board. All the indie girls at shows will swoon over my craftiness

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>>68728563
After market collage

>>68728563
>not plugging straight in

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In general, do you prefer stratocasters or telecasters? And why?

Why does everyone prefer boss ds-1 over ds-2?

>>68728929
But anon, they both suck.

>>68728760
Telecaster for the twangy sound. If i want to play more heavier genres i would play my SG

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>>68726467
Don't forget, you're doing god's work anon

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>>68729597
this desu

>>68728760
Strats for their shimmer, glisten, bite, and floating bridge.

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>>68726437
>>68726533
Fredrik Thordendal's almost-an-iceman is neat
Saw Triptykon last year too, they all had Iceman on stage and it kinda added to the show imo, it was a huge concert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3HF3ps0Ow

>>68728063
I feel the same way on guitars being small, but I wouldn't buy an 8 string just for that reason alone. Since 8s and bass 6s have apparently the same kind of neck width, it may also lead you to fucking up the string spacing when doing chords or arpeggios.
Have you tried some 7 strings ? Especially the longer 26.5" ones like Schecters or Ibanez RGDs

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Anyone from Europe order from ishibashi?
I think I'm gonna buy my next guitar from them, the prices and variety are much better than anything you find around here.
But I'd like to hear some input from someone who did business with them; shipping prices, shipping times, if the item arrived ok, if they're helpful and quick to respond to emails, how payment went etc

>>68726437
Hed.l havw wor a clean shirt eoukdnt he ? God

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>>68730782
>Hed.l havw wor a clean shirt eoukdnt he ? God

>>68730782
try again.

>>68730717
That looks like a japanese store. How the hell do you find cheaper stuff than Thomann in there?

>>68730808
ishibashi stocks some stuff that's not produced anymore or special jap editions iirc

>>68730824
And what are you after specifically?

>>68730808
My country has fuckall for variety, and a new mim strat would cost as much as a jap one + shipping. Plus there's stuff like aerodyne strats, or edwards guitars, or tokai...
>>68730860
Either yet another fucking lp style guitar, a strat, or an aerodyne jb. Hell even stuff not made in japan is cheaper than on, say, reverb.

>>68726748
Yup. But I didn't practice so I quit. Then 3 years later I started playing without lessons and have been at it for 8 years or so. Not sure if the lessons did anything

>>68726786
Uh... No... I'm not one of those creepy old guys he haha ha

>tfw 34 and my teacher is a dude in his mid 20s who gigs for a living
>I wanna turn back time
>give me your warm young blood filled with still-living dreams

>>68730978
Don't worry I know two dudes that are close to or in their 40s who recently started playing. Makes me feel good I started at 18 even though at the time I thought I started late.

>>68727877
HON THE CATS

>>68726437
I've been a die hard cky fan for years. seen them 13 times. occasionally talk to deron on facebook.

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>>68728563
I'll fight you fag

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See those 4 big boxes to the left? the H9, which is smaller, has every single algorithm that is included in those 4 big boxes, and then some more.

(it can't do two algorithms at once, but some algorithms are two effects at once )

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/cordoba-c3m-acoustic-nylon-string-classical-guitar

Should I? 200 bucks

>>68731962
that's amazing

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How is my phrasing going?
https://a.clyp.it/u2ovkopb.mp3

>>68731962
I find the lack of knobs on that multi fx... disturbing.

>>68732044
It can be controlled with an iphone/ipad, but you can also access parameters that control the effects by using the buttons that are on the box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG4d4KsnBbk

who /diy/ here

found a a really nice ukulele in the trash with a torn off bridge so I held it by the neck and smashed it against a street post going to turn it tenor banjo with a cookie tin or tambourin body

might solder some piezo pickups and a jack because why not

>>68732081
Too bad, it can't be used on stage

>>68732218
It can be used on stage, you can prepare in advance the presets you want to use to access them faster, i think.

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s020jucjujup

best ACDC tone I've managed to get out of this amplifier, for those with a super champ x2, using the 12th voicing, mark 3 on the gain, volume at 6.
Suddenly playing huge open chords is fun as fuck.

>>68727456

me too

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>>68732039
>iwn play like this
I-it's shit, give up on guitar and pick up the kazoo

>>68732278
tune up man

>>68732278
jfc do you not have a tuner?

>>68728563
>All the indie girls at shows will swoon over my craftiness

You mean all the sweaty guitar nerds will come and make fun of you cause you don't own any non-mass produced pedals.

>>68727456
>>68732285
fucking pgs andy

>>68732304
>not making your own pedals

>>68732290
not sure if understood your post
are you memin'?

>>68732314

I'll make you a new little brother just let me call your mom.

>>68732340
no for real fuck wasting 80$+ on pedals just make them its easy and cheap

>>68732329
Yes, I am. Your phrasing is miles ahead of mine, especially if you're improvising there.

>>68726929
Isn't there a way to permaban him?

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>>68732294
aye my bad, i dont bother unless i hear its way out. The G string gets stuck in the nut from time to time and thats the string that was out.
>>68732300
nope. lol
http://vocaroo.com/i/s19nEkme7Qxk
Here's a smple of the coil splits on the epiphone florentine pro, someone was curious about how good they were - makes it much more spanky at the cost of a fair bit of volume.

>>68732369

I never said "buying" non-mass produced pedals I said "owning," this too can include DIY and selfmade pedals, yes.

I wanna sing like paul

http://vocaroo.com/

If your guitar says "Squier" on the headstock, you're a fucking LOSER


If your guitar says "Epiphone" and wasn't made in Kalamazoo you're a fucking LOSER


If your guitar says "Fender" on the front of the headstock but says "Made In Mexico" or "Made In Japan" on the back of the headstock you're a fucking LOSER


I don't care if you swapped out the pickups
I don't care if it was your first guitar
I don't care if it sounds "good" (it doesn't)
I don't care if you "like it" (you don't)
You are a LOSER


LOSER


If you claim to be a musician, and play one of these "guitars", you're a fucking LOSER


LOSER


I have more respect for the "musicians" posting on Soundcloud threads (check out this rap beat I copied but changed the tempo of using software) than any hipster faggot playing a god damned toy and pretending to be a guitarist. Why would anybody take you seriously when you're such a cheap and selfish LOSER that you can't even save up more than 300 dollars to buy a real guitar?

>>68732369
How much is it and where do I learn?

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Just got two new picks. Wegen GP 250 to be specific. I've played Jazz III 2.0 for a long time and it started to feel that I need more stuff between my fingers. Compared to that Jazz, they both sound pretty much the same but because the GP is longer, there's a smaller risk of hitting the strings with your thumb, so chords can potentially sound better. Because of the length and round tip, it's not as accurate and agile but my initial impression is that this is actually better for me, because it feels more versatile. For fast and technical playing short and pointy is probably better but if you aren't a fast player and your songs aren't only soloing, I'd say this clumsier pick feels easier to play. For example you don't have to move the pick between your fingers depending on what you're playing. Tremolo picking also feels easier, because the round and beveled tip doesn't grad the string as hard. There's an indentation on top but not in a bad way like on the Big Stubby, so you can hold the pick closer to the tip. On the bottom there isn't as much patterning and the indentation is shallower, so the grip isn't as good but still good enough. The tip is beveled, which improves the agility a lot but lefties can't use this because of that. However, it says on the package that lefties can order a pick that has the beveling the other way around.
All in all a good purchase. Not regretting it yet. Thanks also to the Anon, who recommended Wegen.

>>68732629
What is the problem with those guitars? let people use whatever they want man

>>68732660
>not making your own picks

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>>68732660
snarling dog master race reporting in

>>68732657
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/

these guys are great

>>68726556
>nine hours later
When was this? I can't imagine they would have done that in their prime, but I can see them doing it recently with the terrible state the "band" has been in, but I also doubt they've toured with Gwar in the last couple years.

>>68732629
>implying mij fenders aren't better than us made
nice meme friend

>>68732690
I'm planning to but that has to wait a little bit longer.

>>68732711
>.60
It's so thin that it's barely solid material and more of an idea or a thought of a pick. What do you play?

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made a fixy fixy upgrady upgrady

>>68732772
>It's so thin
i got a few 46's and 38's hardly call .60 thin

>>68732855
>that avocadoburst
The fucking madman, I thought nobody would be brave enough to try.

>>68732879
The Jazz I've been playing is 2.0 mm and this Wegen is 2.5 mm, so to me it's pretty much air. But what do you play? I know some surf rock players use really thin picks.

>>68732912
not op with .60 but mandolin

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what upgrades should I throw on old faithful?

>>68732373
ah. ive been trying to improve on it. yes its improvise

>>68732992
gasoline and a match

>>68732905
>>68732855
that color looks gorgeous

>>68733040
rude

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>>68733040
thanks you fuck i spat all over my keyboard and monitor

>>68732970
What would happen, if you played with a thicker pick? I've no experience with mandolins.

>>68732992
P90 in neck, some nice A4 humbucker in the bridge and premium electrical components. Basic maintenance, such as cleaning and oiling the fingerboard, also helps a lot. If you want to spend even more money, you can swap the bridge and tuners.

>>68732905
But the sound man.
The soooooouunnnnnnnnnnnd

so /gg/, when are you playing this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uinm1Dcd_s

>>68733073
>>68733087
It was just a kind hearted joke, obviously you cant tell by text but its a nice looking guitar.
I'd slap some p90s in it.

>>68732855
That color reminded me of the Ruokangas La Fée Verte.

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>>68733160
N-never, I think

>>68733094
nothing depends on the style

I bought a guitar months ago and Haven't touched it since... what should I do?

>>68733160
Why does his guitar have holes near the part where the neck meets the body?

>>68733254
touch it

>>68733160
Right after I learn Old MacDonald Had a Farm.

>>68733246
Thought there was some specific reason to use thin picks.

>>68733254
Keep touching it. Find some easy tabs to build confidence and then you can start learning chords for example.

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>>68733282
tradition

>>68732748

the electronics and pickups on MIJs are always complete shit

>>68726748
I did for a few months but then he wouldn't teach me anymore because my power level was too high.

>>68733727
this

>>68733770
Kek
What did you do? Storytime.

that cky band had interesting guitar work desu

>>68732660
the beveled edge should allow you to play faster than with the Jazz III. Maybe you are holding the pick on a perpendicular angle against the strings?

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Alright, fa/gg/ots I'm awake!

Feed me (you)s!

>>68734566
Tell me more about those snarling dog picks.

>>68734608

Why don't they wear a muzzle mask?

Would anyone kindly share their training regiment/regular practice routine? I've been a casual player for years with lessons on and off, but I am ready to get more serious about my guitar playing. I know running scales is standard, but if anyone is willing to talk specifics I'm sure a few in this thread could learn a thing or two.

>>68734644
instead of doing scale runs, pick a scale and write a small looping melody to practice faster and faster, it'll help your fingers break out of the dumb mold all boring lead guitarists follow
if you can't write anything, practice your scales in thirds, that way you can also know which diatonic triads correspond to a scale's degrees.

>>68734644
Just playing is fine. If there's something you want to get better at practice that I guess.

How much time do you take to change strings? I took one hour to remove the old ones, clean the guitar and put the new ones in. And I still have to stretch and tune until they relax.
Simple shit like this has no right to take that much time.

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>>68734566

>>68734533
Oh, the pick is fast (wouldn't say faster) but I was talking about playing styles, when I said that in my opinion Jazz III would be better for faster playing. That's mostly because the tip is sharp, so it feels more accurate. Not really much point in speed, if you aren't hitting the right notes. My speed may improve over time, when my hand gets more used to this pick.

>Maybe you are holding the pick on a perpendicular angle against the strings?
I'm not that bad...

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>>68734720
>>68734727
Terrible advice.
>>68734644
I spent a while learning to play monophonic horn lines from jazz albums by ear. After a while the clean note to note runs gel into instinct and you stop thinking about the note you're looking for altogether. At this point my fingers automatically go to the fretboard and play the notes I'm imagining in my mind. That's how I got over the hump of my creativity being limited by my playing. Creative songwriting is something else altogether.
>>68734781
I don't think you know how this works. I'll take it though.

>>68734760
I take about 15 minutes top, I usually clip away at the nut after detuning so I can just yank it off instead of unwrapping it.
bonus video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyD_t8dFgsY

>>68734879
>I usually clip away at the nut after detuning
I do that too. Most of the time goes into winding the new strins, I think.
And that in the video is an acoustic. Not sure about steel stringed ones, but I really don't mind changing strings in my classical, it's the electric that is a bore and a chore.

>>68734829
>I spent a while learning to play monophonic horn lines from jazz albums by ear.
Like, horn lines on the guitar? Sounds cool, and productive. Care to give some recs on the easier side?

>>68734829
What a sperglord

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>>68734973
Yeah, I used horns because there's a separation between my guitar's voice and the horns voice that I could easily distinguish when I started doing it.

As far as recommendations go just do yourself a favor and start with songs you're already fairly familiar with and start with those. The truth is no one can really help you learn to play, it's a matter of you putting in the time ans energy. A little initiative on your part goes a long way though.
>>68735028
Fill me up, baby.

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>getting custom guitar
>24 fret
>locking tuners
>ebony fretboard
>stainless frets
>can't decide if want tremolo or not
>luthier waiting on me to make decision
>Emails me with "Please respond"
>still can't decide
life is suffering

>>68735677

respond you autist

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>>68735677
Tell him you want an 8 string guitar with a kahler

>>68735677
You don't.

There, it was easy, wasn't it?

>>68726437
So, do tube amps work ok with power strips? or should I buy a solid state?

>>68735735
B...but... muh divebombs

>>68735913
If you want to do divebombs then drop guitar and go enlist in the ISIS paratrooper corps

>>68735677
>getting custom guitar
>don't even know what you want
You should've had this all figured out before you even thought about getting a custom guitar

>>68726748
Self-taught for the first year or so (with some background in other instruments). My decision to take lessons for helped me make a big jump forward. My instructor pointed out a lot of weak spots in my playing and cleared up a lot of things.

If you're already fairly comfortable with the basics, maybe just take a month of lessons initially and get as much knowledge and practice material as you can in that month. Then woodshed that stuff for a while until you think it might help to come back.

>>68735677
Hardtail or nothing

>>68735677
no tremolo

just get a pedal and save the trouble of tremolos

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howdy everyone recently i bought a gibson sg and i love the sound of it but it plays like shit. I'm used to playing a stratocaster and I love how it plays but it sounds way too thin. Is there anything that plays like a fender but sounds like a gibson?

>>68736365
also preferably something with 24 freta

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>>68734760
Takes me one half-hour by hand.
The strings stretch for so long afterwards too.
The bass strings usually end up looking like the carpet(a faint green, blue, dark grey colour) in my studio by the time I get them off.

>>68732629
>tfw you can't play for shit but you have to justify buying a $2000 guitar

>>68735677
Absolutely no tremolo. It's a pain in the ass to deal with and you can't do anything useful with it most of the time. Also decreases tuning stability.

>>68734760
Did the acoustic yesterday, took about half an hour. Then another hour of playing to settle.

>>68734760
I can probably change them in under ten minutes if I really wanted to and still do a decent job. But I always take my time and usually make adjustments/clean/etc. as well. Usually thirty minutes or so.

One thing I stopped doing was saving old strings ("just in case"). Slows the changing down and I just ended up having a bunch of old strings lying around. Just snip that shit.

>>68736365
>plays like shit
how so? once I got an sg I couldnt go back

>>68736365
>tfw have a strat but really want to get an SG
Why anon? Now I'm afraid I won't like it

>>68736365
>it plays like shit
elaborate

>>68735677
>says tremolo instead of wang wang bar
Leo Fender fucked up generations of guitarists with the whole tremolo/vibrato mix-up.

>>68736413
>that one friend who never cleans his guitar and has a fretboard coated with green dead skin

>>68736365
>Is there anything that plays like a fender but sounds like a gibson?

Jaguar

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>>68735677
Hardtail.

thinking about buying a prs se custom 24 should i do it

>>68736825
Sure if it's what you want.

>>68736365
Get it set up properly you dingo.

>>68736825
It's pretty good. I can't get the trem pullup intervals to be the same as a strat though, so I just hard-tailed it. The way they say you should set it up is such that it only pulls up an actual musical interval on the two E strings so you can't really do much single-note Jeff Beck whammy bar wank.
The trem screws are also too close together to use a tremol-no.

>>68735677
>24 fret
ok
>locking tuners
good
>ebony fretboard
maple
>stainless frets
good
>can't decide if want tremolo or not
go for an oldschool one so you can make it a hardtail

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0iwaZzVTZza
I'm just pretending to be bad, I promise.

>>68736365
>Is there anything that plays like a fender but sounds like a gibson
>what are superstrats

>>68736965
What are you even attempting to play?

Also tune up before you record.

>>68736825
I'd rather buy a Flaxwood Hybrid or an FGN Odyssey. Much higher quality and better to play but only marginally more expensive. In other words much better value for money.

>>68736965
>one note every 4 seconds

Sorry m8, that was really bad. Don't even bother sharing a recording until you can at least play a full riff without messing it up. Keep practicing though, don't give up.

>>68736958
Why maple? It looks like ass after a while.

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>>68736640
I thought jags were for surf rock.

>>68736520
>>68736520
it's not as smooth as fender guitars

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>Wanted to learn some stuff of Protest The Hero to improve my tapping
>First thing I get is this
>Seriously consider quitting guitar
Holy shit how the fuck do they pull that off?! Did anyone here master two-handed tapping is willing to give me some advice?
Oh yeah, shit's also in 120 bpm.

>>68732855
getting a phil lesh/berry oakley vibe from that thing

>>68734829
Cheers mate, never thought of doing horn lines, that is smart stuff thank you

>>68737557
Isn't that tab full of bull? There seems to be a lot of notes that should belong on the same string to be tapped but are scattered all around the fingerboard instead.

>>68737557
that tab is fucking garbage dude
also muting is very important if you want to do 2handed tapping, the position you need your hands to assume is kinda weird but you should have your right palm on the strings over the ones you tap
imma re-tab it because I like 2h tapping

>>68737705
Could be possible. The original tab was an enormous clusterfuck so I tried to arrange it on my own. There's still some inconsistency in the motion when I try to play it out, though.

>>68731917
i'm gonna ask again
are you the dude who recced me the doubleshot the other day?

>>68737402
the only thing they are good for desu

>>68733282
extra soundholes,might make the guitar sound a bit louder but it also helps you hear yourself better.

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Been a while since I posted the whole setup, got some new pedals and basses in the last few months. Here's what I got:
>Post gear
Ernie Ball Music Man Stingray Classic 4
Fender Roger Waters P Bass w/ mods
Peavey T-40 Standard
Custom Parts Built Fretless Jazz Bass
Epiphone Casino (on loan)
Fender Bassman 500HD
Peavey Musician 300 Series
Univox 1061 (1561 specs)
Hartke AK410 & 115
Peavey 2x15 w/Scorpion 15's
Peavey 4x12F w/Scorpion 12's
Pedaltrain Novo 24 with:
Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+, Korg Pitch Black, EBS MultiComp, Digitech Bass Whammy, EHX Pitchfork,
MXR Bass Envelope Filter, Cog FX Mini 66, EHX Black Russian Big Muff w/Mods, MXR Bass Chorus Deluxe,
VFE Enterprise Phaser, EQD Avalanche Run <-- Moog Expression Pedal, Live Wire ABY

>Post desired gear
Travis Bean TB2000
Alembic Stanley Clarke
Jaydee Supernatural
Status King Bass
63' Reissue Fender P bass in Seminole Red
Wal Bass MKI
Bluesman Vintage Thunder-Jazz
Science Amplification Mother
Science Amplification 6x10 Bass cab
Verellen Meatsmoke
Tryant Tone 2x10/1x18


>How long have you been playing?
9-10 years

>Fav Basses?
Fender, Wal, Rickenbacker, Xotic, Gibson, Mike Lull, Warrior, Alembic, Status, Fano, Travis Bean, Bluesman Vintage

>Fav Bassists?
Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, John Paul Jones, Dave Hope, Mike Rutherford, Greg Lake, Juan Alderete, Justin Chancellor

>Projects?
In a band at the moment, finishing up our first and second albums, first should be released in 2 months give or take, second by the middle of the new year.

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>>68732992
Nice jetking

>>68736365
Either Ibanez Prestige or PRS Custom 24. I had a PRS some years ago but I had to sell it because I needed the money. It still breaks my heart thinking about it. Scale length is in between Fender and Gibson and the neck is quite comfy. The pickups are built for suble overdrive imo. I have an Ibanez with HSH now and I'm surprised how versatile this thing is. Thin neck, great pickups and a decent tremolo (even though it's no original Floyd Rose).

>>68737830
Thanks mate, I'd love to see an experienced player's take on this.

>>68732379
Yo I was prolly the guy who was curious about the florentine. I'm pretty much dead set on buying it. I'll get a super metal guitar some other time. I'll post my opinion on it as soon as I get it and sit down with it. Thanks for the tones, nice playing.

>>68726467
kill yourself

>>68737402

the single coil ones yea

HH sound pretty hard and are shorter scale so they sound a bit nice and muddy like Gibsons

but honestly nothing but a Gibson will sound like a Gibson desu

>>68738009
is that an ebony fretboard on that stingray?

>>68737557
why in the holy hell of fuckness would you need tapping to play that?

>>68738432
Try to play it in 120 bpm and you'll know why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTBldDGqYRg

>>68738432
Because he's a fag that has like 5 fingers on his hands, and they can't even stretch a whole octave.

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>>68738193
>experienced player's take
I've only been playing for two years and half, I'm not experimented so much, just a fancy wankster who likes playing hard stuff
back on topic, when doing that kind of two handed tapping, usually with the pick in hand, you want to keep the intervals simple in shape, for both hands, so the right hand's only going to be tapping the 5, 7 and 8 fret, while the right hand taps 12 and 10. Try to not move the right hand too much (but don't anchor it either) as you want the palm to mute the lower EAD strings. (you don't want to use a sock/cloth like a pleb, right ?)
Other than the small 7/8 fuckery, it's a rather simple tapping part, both hands stay in the same position and there's no large stretch.

Is there a bass version of JustinGuitar's begginner course?

How do I get good at blues soloing? The scales are simple, but I don't know how to capture the blues feeling like people like SRV and Hendrix do

when the first ever 8-string was made?
pls no experimental jazz guitars

>>68730978
marry him

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>>68738480
I don't really think it is necessary.
Anyway, I would play it like this.

>>68738009
Yes it is, I think it might be one of the GC Platinum Series MMSR Basses from 2012 that has the roasted maple neck and ebony fretboard.

>>68738309
>>68738741

>>68738628
>pls no experimental jazz guitars
excluding lapsteel, the first 8 string was a modified 6 string according to wikipedia, but tuned in thirds instead of standard.
sorry

>>68738787
modified hollowbody to be precise I meant

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>>68738705
>>68738555
Thanks guys, that's a big help. I'll have a go at it.

Pastebin has zero resources on this

Thinking about buying a fretless bass guitar. Would you recommend fretless over fretted? I've also never played guitar in my life, so should I start off with 4 string or 5 string? Also, what separates a good bass from a bad bass? I've looked at the shop I was going to purchase the bass from and the cheapest one was this Rogue LX200BF Fretless Series III Electric Bass Guitar for 130. How much should I be looking to spend?

>>68733160
never because i trim my nails like a civilized fucking human being anon

>>68726748
I took lessons for a while. Maybe a year max, when I first started playing.
I learned open chords and that was basically it. The teacher was an acoustic guy and only wanted to teach me acoustic stuff and I just wasn't into it. I wanted to play heavier stuff and play electric.
I quit the lessons and taught myself from videos and have been self taught ever since. That was 10 years ago.

Honestly, if anyone could be considered my teacher it would be Paul Gilbert. I used to watch his instructional videos all the time and he was a huge influence on my playing.

>>68739071
>Would you recommend fretless over fretted?
Both have their ups and downs. With fretless basses, the strings are usually quite now, thus making them harder to play slap basslines on where the strings need a little bit of "air" to resonate. However, nothing beats the nasal sound of a good fretless bass with flatwound strings. Especially if you're into jazzy stuff and Fusion, getting a fretless bass becomes obligatory at some point. Playing is also comfy as fuck once you get the note position down.

>I've also never played guitar in my life, so should I start off with 4 string or 5 string?
That's up to you. While having a chunky five or even six string neck is rather intimidating at first, you're more versatile because of that extra string because you can either tune the bass to BEADG where the low B makes downtuning for some pieces obsolute, or you can tune it to EADGC where the high C gives you a broader range in the upper registers for soloing. I started playing a bass with a five string and I don't want to miss it.

>Also, what separates a good bass from a bad bass?
Mostly the feeling. In terms of tone, you can make up a lot with a decent amplifier and maybe a compressor.

>How much should I be looking to spend?
My impression always was that fretless basses are more expensive than the fretted ones, so I'd take that into consideration. It's really up to your budget here but I'd invest a good amount of money in it. When I get a new bass, I usually spend about 1k to 1k5 but everyone's budget is different. In my opinion, spending more than 2k on a bass is either spending extra money for the brand name or for aesthetics. Apart from that, you get what you pay for.

Hope that helped.

Is there an exercise to improve your phrasing on guitar? I have a bit of knowledge on scales/modes, but my problem is translating that into an interesting phase(s). Any tips on how to make interesting/tasty phases in any genre?

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Got myself a Mexican Standard Fender Stratocaster yesterday. In VERY good shape and seems to be from 1992-1993. What do you guys think?

>>68739071

Don't spend too little if you're looking to play seriously, your first bass should always be an investment you don't wanna have your first bass be a shitty 100 dollar amp + combo Ibanez you'll sell later cause it sucks and then will always regret.

My
>exgf
bought a fretless as her first bass and regreted it when she realized fretted is a lot easier for a learner, ended up asking me to lend her one of my P-Basses. You can do it, but it's pretty much hard more and you'll have to train your ear real hard.

>>68739613

the color is pretty boring to be honest, how much did it cost you?

mex strats are real workhorses, if you got it for <~$250 then you did good anon

>>68737324
To some it looks better than dark woods even when it's worn. Personally I have no idea, how some get it to look bad, because on my guitar it looks literally the same as new after a year and a half of active playing and even on a 20 year old Strat my friend owned the fretboard had no wear. So personal experience with them suggests that you the wear happens only if you are Freddy Krueger and you don't have frets.

>>68739701
I think the color looked pretty good. But yeah, got it for about 350 as Fenders are way more expensive where I live, which is Norway. This is actually the best price I've ever seen for a Fender in Norway

>>68739493
5 string necks aren't so intimidating, they're barely any wider than regular guitar necks on some models; managing the muting with the extra string is another more important issue
6 string necks feel like you're trying to hold a beast though

>>68739071
If you're new to bass, then you should stick to a fretted 4-string unless you're absolutely sold on a fretless or having more strings. Look for some Squiers if you want a cheap but good bass. Got mine for $150 when I started and it would still work if I didn't abuse the shit out of it as a teen.

>>68726556
It was a sample Chad would trigger with a foot switch, same as the Celine Dion song for when the crowd got quiet. "Look, I brought a crowd of my own." It was a gimmick.

Who here excited for the new album to drop?

>>68739750

Ah, that's a good price for outside the US yeah, good buy anon.

Alright /gg/, name this riff. Super easy pop mode:
https://clyp.it/n0wlziz4

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>>68732629
>shitting on mexican strats and teles

sounds like something a fucking LOSER would say

>>68732905
it's not that bad.

but the pick guard is an eyesore though

>>68740719
It could be better, but it's not bad indeed, would fit right in a latin jazz band. And it wouldn't be a true avocadoburst without a brown pickguard.

>>68740687

goddamn Lori was a fucking babe 100%

too bad she and Buzz had to ruin everything shooting up like crazy

>>68732629
Used mexican teles almost exclusively with my band for years. Acoustics in the bar circuit are shite, a 2 grand guitar has no difference in sound but wears just as quickly.

>>68738705
>not playing it all in the the V position
I don't understand why you're working harder than you need to.

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I just bought one of these with CS 69's in it. how bad did i goof

>>68740614
L A X
A
X

>>68739613
>>68739701

It's okay, but if its a pre-00's Mexican Fender, you may have a bitch of a time finding properly sized parts because a lot of Mexican factory models used different dimensions, at least for the electronics. I'm not really sure about the Strats, though, they're so ubiquitous that maybe you'll be alright. And besides, you don't want to change pickups or the pickguard, yet, right?

>>68726748
when i was younger i had two guitar teachers at different points. one guy just asked me what songs i wanted to play and we'd go over them and he taught me some stuff. the other was some really good jazz player that just grabbed a book off a shelf and i had to go through it with him

first guy was alright, jazz guy was a complete waste of time and i learned absolutely nothing. i haven't bothered with a teacher since then and just read my own books and learned myself.

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Is it possible to get a good blues tone (think Stevie Ray Vaughn) out of a Les Paul? I have a Les Paul Custom, a TS9, and a Tiny Terror.

>page 8

if tone wood is a myth, are hollow bodies a myth too?

>>68744040
tone wood is mostly bullshit for solid body electric guitars, mostly a meme invented by manufacturers to charge you out the ass for 'special' wood

hollow bodies, ehhh, maybe.

>>68744040
Tonewoods aren't a myth. Different materials behave differently and that's just a fact based on physics. The real debate should be about how much they affect the perceived tone and how the differences could be amplified, i.e. make tonewoods more distinct sounding.

>>68738009
cool set up. how do you like that ramp?

>>68744303
Thanks, the ramp on my fretless is really nice, makes finger style playing super fast and I don't have to dig in deep. Definitely suites that bass.

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>>68744040
yeah it's a meme. even on acoustics the bracing/craftsmanship makes a much bigger difference in the sound.

>>68744296
we're talking about how an electromagnet responds to a nickel/steel string vibrating against steel nodes vibrating against other steel nodes vibrating against a thickly coated piece of wood with slightly different grains/densities. it's obviously negligible.

>>68744040
My semi-hollows sound rather differently unplugged and when plugged in they sound different but not in the same way.

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>>68743323

>>68744707
well, i mean, of course an amplified sound that is being produced by pickups is going to sound different than the natural sound of the guitar, that's just how it works, because reasons

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/2ni3dp/why_are_gibson_les_pauls_so_expensive/cme23es/

/r/guitar is a faggy place, but for anyone who's interested this a really good explanation of how guitars (Gibson here, but the same applies to other big names) are a ripoff.

>tfw gibson is a such a jew they teach this business school

>>68744599
Not necessarily.

>>68744886
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/2ni3dp/why_are_gibson_les_pauls_so_expensive/cme23es/

>Compared side-by-side with more value-competitive guitars, a Les Paul had fewer features, an old-fashioned appearance, less versatility, was heavier and harder play fast on

that guy saying it has less features is kind of silly. it's not a swiss army knife. just because it doesn't have tremolos, locking nuts, only two pickups, and all that kind of stuff, doesn't mean it has less features... it just means the people who buy les pauls usually don't want or need it.

i don't think that guy plays guitar, he seems like he's just viewing a guitar as a product with features and more features is always better.

>>68744040
own two semi hollows, 3 solid bodies, one of my semi hollow has same wilkinson pups as a solid body, sounds completely different.

>>68744886
The lower end 'studio' models of Gibsons are okay, value-wise. I have one of the faded LPs without the maple top, binding, fancy stuff, that plays and sounds pretty great. Burstbucker pickups, neck-through. It was about 800 buck. I won't call that a great deal or anything but it's a lot better value than the nicer models of Gibson with all the pretty aesthetic touches.

>>68744040
My semi-hollow pretty much sounds the same as a solidbody guitar plugged in, not even gonna lie. Hollowbodies are a different story though, you actually get some of that acoustic sound coming through the pickups.

>>68738656
I guess it's not gay if it's for guitar reasons

>>68745129
>neck-through
Are you sure about that? Is that your final answer?

>>68745389
Are they set neck? I forget. It's not a bolt on anyway.

>>68745448
LPs are almost always set necks

>>68745462
Gotcha.

>>68745448
Set-in neck. In neck-through construction the neck piece goes all the way through the body. Firebird is a good example.

>>68745042
English isn't even my first language and even I understood, what the guy was saying... Read again.

>>68745561
>English isn't even my first language

hola amigo

>>68745568
Neither is Spanish. I'll give you a hint: it's not an Indo-European language.

>>68745591

konnichiwa

>>68745608
Wrong again. Next hint: I'm white.

>>68745637

nice im white too

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>>68745637
>>68745646
me three, wanna start a band where we wank the fretboard over some drum loops?

>>68745646
Oh come on. Don't give up now. White + not Indo-European narrows the choises like Hillary deletes her emails.

>>68745713
argentina

>>68745713
gay?

>>68736365
who's the qt behind him?

>>68745703
Black metal solo projects are the way to go.

>>68745729
I already said that I don't speak Spanish or any other Indo-European language and that I'm white. So you got three things wrong with that guess.

>>68745742
Not an ethnic group but wrong again.

>>68745806
trannie?

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>>68745806
what if we just play very soft open chords and hum.
>>68745821
this

>>68745821
Still not an ethnic group and still wrong.

>>68745842
>Animeposter
Absolutely no.

>>68745874
>Still not an ethnic group and still wrong
this is HIGHLY offensive

>>68732629
So, what is your point

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>>68745874
You don't like 2D girls holding your guitars?
You'd be okay with dudes I bet... sure you're not gay senpai?
>>68745912
He doesnt wanna play with me anon :(

>>68745912
Good.

>>68745919
>You don't like 2D girls holding your guitars?
No and they can't hold anything. They aren't real.
>sure you're not gay senpai?
Already denied this allegation. It's sad that English speakers either can't or won't bother to read English.

>>68746000
its coz i fink yur well gay mate

>>68746132
Then you think wrong. Also doesn't the American education system provide any more info about languages, cultures and ethnicities? You literally only knew Spanish, Japanese and Spanish again.

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>>68746192
I'm not American, so you're not very good at this either.
Frankly, no one gives that much of a fuck mate, sorry to be the one to tell you.

>>68745713
Hungarian?

>>68742480
Not played 69's, but it's a super quick and easy mod for a strat and a great way to upgrade a cheaper strat.

http://www.schecterguitars.com/guitars/v-1-platinum-detail should I get ? of not whats better for metal/shred in the 500-750 USD range

>>68746351
>you're not very good at this either
On an American website and with zero clues it's usually a pretty good bet, so I'm doing fine.

>>68746359
Getting close.

>>68746496
Ukraine?

>>68746496
Basque? Finnish?

>>68746540
Linguistically, not geographically. Ukrainian is an Indo-European language.

>>68746567
>Finnish
Finally correct. Have some rune singing as a reward:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnH5k-_U2L0

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Really considering picking one of these up if i can find it semi locally and under 2500 bucks. Think i have any chance? anyone own an original 80s steinberger?

>>68746595
That thing literally looks like a ball sack

>>68746594
>Have some rune singing
Now put it do doom metal

>>68746835
I actually don't think anyone has tried doing that.

>>68745919
Those guitars look like they never get played.

>>68744886
ed roman wrote quite a lot on shittiness of gibson as a company

>>68747072
He wrote a lot of literal shit, sold literal shit, talked literal shit and most likely he was physically literal shit.

>>68726437
Chad could fuckign shred, just seeing him jam made me realize how much talent was in cKy.

>>68747109
but he was right in this case

>>68747164
Everyone makes mistakes.

http://www.edroman.com/rants/les_paul_necks.htm

>>68744886
oh shit
burn this corporate scum down

>>68747134
dude they were all drunk and drug addicts that rode the coattails of bam. let it go

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Why are people so butthurt about Gibsons. Is it just because they can't afford them? It seems da haterz spend more time hatin on Gibsons than actually playing their own guitars.

I play my Gibson at least 4 hours a day and every second it's a joy to play. Can you say the same about your Ibenhads and Yamawhos?

>>68747398
Their CEO is a Jew and it just so happens that he acquired the company in 1986, i.e. right at the time the the price hikes started.

>>68747505
Because their guitars offer very bad value for money and the quality control is all over the place. It's an iconic brand, so people hate the current state of the company. We don't hate the brand, just the management.

>>68747505
>they can't afford muh overpriced status symbol
>they must be dumb peasants
keep fooling yourself.

>>68747548
They're actually better now than they have been in decades.

Have you ever played a Gibson from the 70s/80s? They're pretty bad more often than not. The only time Gibsons were truly remarkable guitars was pre-mid 60s imo.

Gibsons today are overpriced if you buy them new, but the prices on the used market are totally reasonable for an American made guitar imo. I guess I just spend more time playing than obsessing over small details. Most Gibsons really aren't THAT expensive to get so worked up at.

>>68747602
Haven't played any guitar that's that old. Two years ago I went to the local music store and tried a couple of Gibsons, because I was looking for a new guitar. First I tried a Les Paul Special, which looked nice but the frets weren't crowned, so it was completely unplayable. Then I tried a Les Paul Studio and after a few minutes there was more lacquer on my thumb than on the neck. Both of them just felt cheap. The Studio even had warped pickup rings. Haven't touched a Gibson since that.

>>68747602
The QC is still pretty patchy.

You definitely need to try a few out and compare before buying - they are still shipping some real dogs, but the good ones are amazing.

Perhaps that is the problem with Gibson: the lack of consistency - you can have two seemingly identical guitars hanging on the shop wall, one will be mind-blowing, the other a Friday afternoon special that is nigh unplayable

>>68747548
It's funny how they pose as "the ultimate US patriot's guitars". Speaks volumes about "patriots".

is it worth buying pedals for my line 6 spider IV or should I save up for a new amp first it's only for bedroom playing and a bit of recording so idk

>>68747426
96 Quite Bitter Beings has one of the greatest riffs of all time

>>68737001
It was the intro to children of bodom by children of bodom. I thought it was tuned.

>>68749195
>>68749195
>>68749195