/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

>>68270248
Thank you based anon

Gotta say, I'm disappointed in how many of you guys fell for the bait in that last thread.

Responding to the person from the previous thread:

>>68270189
Color theory is completely not needed, yes.

Knowing color theory does not matter at all when you create art from your own imagination and vision.

Did you really never watch bob ross lessons

>>68270456
Claiming something is bait isn't a valid defense for being a retard.

>>68270456
Just don't reply to crazyaga you stupid fuck.

How do I into pickups? What's a good resource for learning more about them and how they work and what makes them unique?

Nevermind the fact that I don't know how to change pickups in a guitar, but I don't even know the mechanism behind them or how they work.
And what is the difference between a alnico and ceramic one and which is better?

Spoon feed me, please.

>>68270456
>complains about /gg/ biting crazyagas bait
>which means he is biting crazyagas bait just like everyone else who was giving him (you)s
top kek check this dumbass out

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thinking about selling pic related (mim fender strat)
i want to get 400$ out of it ( it retails for 600) but i also want it gone fast, what do you think the best way to go about selling this is and what do you think a fair price for it would be?

>>68270855
Use Craigslist or a local classified ad source as a means of selling it, don't pawn it or settle for less than 350$. If I were you I'd polish it, restring it, give them whatever picks you have available and market it out as a "starter kit" could probably fork 500/550$ this way.

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>>68270900
ok I need help like this guy this time for real will you please give me a real price how much we should ask for this Gibson Les Paul with the top I fixed?

>>68270855
ebay takes lik 11 or 13%
Reverb takes like 2 or 3%

I expect mims to sell from 200-350. There's no harm in shooting for your asking price.

>>68270935
again, if you remove all of the hardware and electronics, you can probably get a hundred bucks for it.

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>>68270935
this is how the back looks. no jerks this time like the last gg I asked in or I will not talk to you at all

Is it common practice to open up the power tubes (basically the volume knob) on a volume/master amp? Or dial it in as necessary?

>>68270950
>or I will not talk to you at all
Is that a promise?

$100 after your fix.
$150 before your fix.

>>68270950
You could piece it out. Tuning machines, pickups, body with exacerbated neck repair.

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>>68270992
but how much for it as is do you think

>>68271008
priceless, kek

the drummer from suicide silence almost ran in front of my moving vehicle tonight btw

Would it be a decent idea to feed this into a very long atmospheric reverb?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3eNFOHrR4

>>68270855
Try Facebook groups, like Music Gear Exchange.

>>68270950
>>68270935
It's difficult to value. You're probably going to struggle to sell it at any cost.

Why are barre chords such a bitch? What's the most effective way to tackle them so my hand doesn't tire out so fast?

>>68270855
trade it for some bedsheets and soap you disgusting hippie!

>>68271976
Nothing but practice.
There are no shortcuts. You either practice them enough to develop the strength to play them, or you don't and your chords all sound like shit.

>>68270754
Dang ol magnets man

>>68272067
Any suggestions for songs to practice with lots of barre chords?

>>68271976
Pick two chords and switch between them for 5 minutes each time you practice. One strum per chord to make sure each note is ringing cleanly.
I would begin in the middle of the neck (7th fret or so) because the string tension is less than first fret, and the frets are not to squished together like they are way up by the pickups. Slowly work up and down the fretboard over a couple weeks.

Make sure you're using good technique, good wrist position and guitar on the elevated left leg, classical style. Fingers pushing right next to the fret youre on.

Classical guitar repetoir can teach you all you need to know about barres.

Off the top of my head, a fun guitar song by City and Colour called In the Water I'm Beautiful has some good two string barres in it.

It goes without saying that your guitar should be setup at least moderately well...

GL m8, you'll get it with practice

I use to take lessons, but then my instructor moved away. Now I'm just kind of aimlessly practicing with no direction. I don't really have an idea where to go from here. I've never been good at self instruction.

>>68271008
That's a $1,000 fix. Repairing the headstock and filling your screw holes would be a tough job. Just throw it away tbqh man, no one in the world is gonna buy that shit.

>>68272132
Any song since barre chords are used to transpose a chord to anywhere on the fucking neck.

Anyone have a link to a YouTube channel of a Portuguese girl who uploads herself playing a Seafoam Green Suhr? She talks about studying at Berkelee. Pls help me find my guitar waifu

>>68272567
>guitar waifu
>doesn't even know her Youtube channel

You're a shit husbando desu senpai

>>68272593
It's a long distance relationship it's hard to keep up sometimes

Any guitar youtube channels that aren't super cringe-worthy the only ones i've found that isn't god awful is "that pedal show" and Brian Wampler's videos.

>>68272604
you had literally one job
BAD HUSBANDO

>>68272663
youtube media is inherently cringe.

just watch reh instructionals, jazz lectures, and classical prodigal performance like the rest of us

>>68270754
http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/electrical_generation.htm

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>>68266916
Vektor, the creators of the AOTY. Although they're originally from Arizona

>>68272677
eh I don't really like playing jazz or classical (on guitar) and I know enough about working on guitars to either do things myself or know to send it to a specialist.

How do I go about giving my jazz improv form?
I want to have my solos feel more like a coherent melody(there's not one to borrow from in this song) rather than a series of scales of varying speeds.

Key changes are alright.
For Example (each of these get one measure except for the last chord which gets two):
Fm7-Bbm7-D7-AbMaj7-DbMaj7-G7-CMaj7(x2)

How do I go about creating something that is more than scales?

>>68270855
>black pickguard

dont expect much for it...

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This pedal is pretty awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARX1QYvBD-A

>>68271976
why does everybody think barre chords are so hard?

if your guitar is setup properly with a good action height and good strings barre chords should be no problem

>>68272923
>why do beginners* think barre chords are so hard?
Because it's a weird use of tension and muscles in your hands that have never been used like that before.

>>68272923
Buzzing, proper technique, and stamina can all be issues when first starting.
There's only so much you can do to setup an acoustic guitar.

>>68272923
Because if you remember back to when you started, it took you at least 6 months to a year to develop the finger strength to play them without issue.

Beginners also tend to have shit guitars with shit strings and shit setup.

>>68272974
i think the hardest part is the coordination

if your guitar is setup properly i dont think it takes much extra strength. but maybe, i can't remember that well. my fingers were more sore from bends than barre chords.

>>68273061
Flexibility and stamina were my worst issues. Cheap ass 80s plywood Korean Westone didn't help.

>>68273148
aha yeah my buddy has this cheapass epiphone acoustic, i cant even barre on it the action is a mile high and the factory strings (he hasnt changed them yet lol) are stiff as fugg.

>>68273209
Cheap guitars now are miles ahead of what they were back in the 80s when I started. Kids these days are lucky as fuck in that regard.

>>68271053
Did you speed up?

>>68270950
I hope this because regular pasta. Best trolling I've seen in a while, and that includes crazyaga's special brand of autism.

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I just discovered the ultimate meme machine and I want it

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>>68274006

>>68274019
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>>68274036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ac5AVosug

>>68274061
Kek
http://youtu.be/O6sC4i4w4eo

>>68270248
I don't want to be that guy, but I asked in the last thread and didn't get an answer.
The middle 4 strings on my guitar buzz/are flat against the frets when playing from the 20th to the 23rd fret and they'd need a significantly higher action to be playable clean.
Knowing that it basically HAS to be the 24th fret that is a bit too large, right? Could I get away with just getting that 1 fret filed down a bit? Could I do it myself?

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>>68274095
nice

>>68274126
make sure the truss rod is adjusted properly

>>68274605
The truss rod doesn't do much there, it's exactly at the neck heel, 23rd fret. That's screwed into place

>>68274006
is there a demo of this?

>>68274628
It can be other things. Could be the neck angle, and you would have to shim the neck, provided the frets are already level, and you can check that with a straight edge. Is the fret seated properly? Sometimes a tap of a hammer can do wonders. What kind of bridge? Is it radius compensated? And how much is too much on the action, and pics.

>>68274628
if the neck is "dipped" too much, fixing this will cause the action to go down so you'll need to raise the saddles at the bridge, increasing the angle between the neck and the strings when playing on the higher frets

>want to trade my acoustic for an electric
>thats probably hard enough as it is
>live in serbia so the market for instruments is even more ass

pls kill me

>>68274637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVNjXs67Wok

>>68274857
Would gladly try to work out an exchange with a fellow Serb but my classical is too precious to me and my steel string is worthless enough to be an insult to you if I offered it.

Also I live in America.
good luck serbfam!

https://youtu.be/ToyuZwTO068?t=3m23s
Anyone have an idea on how to play that riff? My ears aren't good enough to figure it out

>>68275339
Can you read?

>>68275457
A#, F, C, G min, A#

Play with barre shapes and add an F to the C (a shape barre) on the B string just before flipping to G min.

Play around until you figure out how many strings are played with, it's simply A shape barre chords up the neck with a G min.

>>68275558
Second A# is the beginning of the new bar, sorry.

Not tabbing this beginner level shit out for you, that's more spoon feeding than I feel like doing.

>>68275457
>>68275558
Pretty much this, but I don't mind spoon-feeding

x 13 15 15 15 x

x x 15 14 13 13

x x 14 12 13 12

x x 14 12 13 13

x x 12 12 11 10

There's also a second guitar strumming single notes behind the chords at the same time, it's just D4 A4 G4 D4 over and over

I've got a Cort 250 g leftie, any opinions on the piece? What would I have to spend to upgrade?

>>68272892
>Implying there's anything wrong with not playing a guitar tailored for your pretentious indie rock needs

>>68270950
>>68271008
just get it glued by anyone who knows what they are doing

Should I buy an Epiphone LP Special II or save up for a Standard?

>>68275918
That shit is beyond glue.

>>68275929
I say get the extra 100 bucks and go Standard

I've been practicing the blues minor scale for a while now. I can do it in all positions in G and a few tricks like skipping strings or going in thirds, but that's it.
Like, if I try to play it in A instead I'll get lost, if I try to improvise upon it I'll forget what notes I can go to from the one I started, especially in the horizontal direction. What can I do to get better at that and be effectively able to use the scale for actual music?

>>68271008
Don't listen to the memeing faggots, if it's not very loose, you can still sell it for around 50-70% of retail price.

>>68276206
Are you just focusing on what note you're playing or something? Shapes don't fucking change across the fretboard apart from the b string.

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how do I into joe darts mode

>>68273061
>if your guitar is setup properly i dont think it takes much extra strength.
Mine's kinda setup like shit and I never struggled with them. But I didn't think about trying them out before at least 6-10 months after beginning because I was too busy playing stupid, simple death/thrash metal; so they never felt any awkward.

>>68276206
Practice your scales musically, on a metronome, instead of practicing them octave to octave. Don't learn pre-made licks even if they're yours, you'll turn into a lazy and predictable guitarist.

>>68276236
You're out of your mind. That's a horrendous break and a profoundly shitty repair.

>>68276241
>Are you just focusing on what note you're playing or something?
I'm not sure what you mean by this, but possibly, since I can't see the rest of the pattern.

>Shapes don't fucking change across the fretboard apart from the b string.
I know, and it's why it frustrates me so much. The whole thing is quite symmetric and logical, but I can't seem to get it into my muscle memory I can barely only work in one key.

>>68276330
>Practice your scales musically
How?
>on a metronome
I do that sometimes, should really do it more often though.

>Don't learn pre-made licks even if they're yours, you'll turn into a lazy and predictable guitarist.
Oh well, I never felt so happy for having studied so few licks then.

>>68276401
>I'm not sure what you mean by this, but possibly, since I can't see the rest of the pattern.

Here's what I do when practicing scales. I'll put on some shit anime or whatever and sit with my guitar in my lap not plugged in. I'll do scale shapes up and down while disconnecting my brain from it, then change root note and continue and so on and so forth.

The best way for me to get the old muscle memory to play along is to not focus on it. Once you have the scales down to muscle memory is when you start playing around with them.

Also a really good way of practicing alternate picking at the same time.

>>68270950
Look man, the neck has no value now. Take off the tuners, remove the neck, and throw it away. You can probably still get a decent price for the body and tuners.

What are the best all around bass strings from your experience? I play funk, rock, and metal. But i do like to try other genres. I am currently using some old d'addarios 45-105.

>>68276599
Try pressurewounds

>>68276206
you have to keep practicing it until you don't have to think about where your fingers need to go

there's no real trick to it other than grinding away at them. i like to practice scales and stuff like that while i'm watching tv, because it just gets fucking boring. i think it's useful though, if you can grind out scales left and right without thinking too much about them because your focus and attention is directed towards what's going on in the tv show/movie, then you're on the right track, because it's just a part of you at that point and you don't have to think about it.

sounds stupid but it's helped me.

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>>68276236
so you think about $900 to $1250 then? my boss will probably be happy with that thanks it has no other problems except for the top I fixed

>>68276599

Rotosound rounds.

>>68276715

Your boss? You bought this guitar for a store's used stock in THIS condition? Wow.

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>>68276749
no a old guy pawned it the other day and my boss dropped it off the counter and broke off the top

>>68276767

Oh that's even worse.

Honestly the only way any one will ever buy that guitar is if it gets properly fixed and is completely playable.

>>68271008
who the fuck put those bolts in it? wtf? that just made the headstock repair job even more difficult for no reason

>>68276776
im not >>68276767
but couldn't he just replace the neck?

>>68276794
it's not necessary but yea he can do that. if it's fixed right the joint will be even stronger than it was before it broke

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>>68276787
i fixed the top with stuff from the tools shelf. there are no other problems the top is holding on the strings good now

>>68276829
I hope you keep posting this for years to come. Where did you find these photos?

>>68276794

Gibsons have set necks, they would have to unglue it which is a pain in the dick, and getting finished, proper Gibson replacements for them isn't all too common.

>>68276829

The intonation is probably off, and I wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't hold tune. Plus pressure will probably make the screws damage more wood around the neck until they give.

It has to be glued and bonded with graphite.

>>68276305
Who?

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I've never posted here so here goes.
>guitar
Pic related, Jackson, sorry dont have the unedited photo
Rocking a shitty portable amp with the gain turned up to 10
>how long
Overall, 5 years or so, but condensed it would look something like 2 years of practice an hour a day
>projects
Toying with Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God, trying to get a feel for the emotion and the rolling up and down the strings
Experimenting with some Dimebag lead patterns, trying to build speed
>accomplishments
Not much, i try to learn whatever I feel like at the time using tabs and youtube, a big milestone a few years ago for me was when I could play most of the solo from Black Magic Woman by Santana
>style
I tend to play alot of metal/rock
SOAD was one of my biggest influences
Pantera and Lamb of God are my current fixations

>>68276451
>>68276678
>i like to practice scales and stuff like that while i'm watching tv
>I'll put on some shit anime or whatever
I think you're the first people I ever seen advocating lack of focus while practicing. I actually do have the guitar with me when watching TV too, which is pretty rare nowadays, but I don't consider it serious, real practice.

>>68276451
>then change root note and continue
And that's where things always go wrong for me.
Funny thing is that I began studying the major/minor scale patterns recently and I have way less trouble doing them across the neck. Maybe it's because this time I set to learn each pattern regardless of key rather than learning them all in one key and then trying to shift around.

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>>68276876
I put superglue in before I screwed the bolts though and the top is holding strings on good now. I think it is fine really

>>68276940
Works for me. It's like touch typing, your brain doesn't think about which key to hit, you just do it.

>>68276977

Stop.

Please stop.

Take it to a luthier so he can chew you out properly and fix it before you end with a 1000$ paperweight.

>>68276977
Either you're the most persistent troll I've seen so far in 2016 or you're the stupidest fuck I've seen so far in 2016.

Only thing that can save your hack job is a completely new neck.

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>>68274899
NOICE

>>68276977
Someone should screencap this anon's saga, for posteriority's sake.

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.

>>68276940
i'm not saying to always do unfocused practice sessions

i just don't see the point in intensely focused practice sessions for scales after a certain point. in the beginning, sure, i need to focus and pay attention just to understand the notes, intervals, and positions, but once i get that down it's just a matter of drilling away at them until my fingers know where to go. i don't need to sit in silence for that because it's not that complicated

>>68277051
>i don't need to sit in silence for that because it's not that complicated

I think you're supposed to be sitting making sound with your guitar, anon.

>>68277100
wait a minute, a guitar is supposed to make SOUND?

this changes everything

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>>68277051
>>68277100
>>68277120

>>68276977
>I put superglue in

Oh Jesus help me.

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>>68277192
it is only on the top though. the rest of the guitar is fine with no other damage

>>68277231
This is some top tier shitposting.

>>68277231

Stop reposting this from the previous thread, anon.

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Oh my

>>68277231
>it's only the brain that's dead, the rest of the patient is fine. Look, I even superglued the cranium back together

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>>68277264

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>>68277277
kek

>>68277247
He got such a good response in the previous thread he's decided to talk another round in this one.

>>68277277
sounds like jeffrey dahmer

>>68276401
>how to practice scales musically

Couple things. Mix up the rhythm; so tap out a beat that sounds interesting to you then try to play the scale to it. Play scale to a swing beat. Mix in triplets. Mix in slides and hammer on/pull offs. Play the scale to a drum beat off youtube.

Also look up the basic fundamentals of walking bass lines. Walking bass lines are great for guitar practice as well (transpose up an octave of course). Experiment with note order. I drives me crazy seeing people practicing scales by jusy doing them in ascending and descending order. Start in the middle, hop around by thirds or fifths, play in pseudo-random order and you get a feel for how those notes can sound in sequence, both in good and bad ways.

>>68277399
If you can't even change the root note of a scale without fumbling, that's not good advice. Mindless grind until that shit is fixed.

>>68277399
Ah yes, I do some of that. Varying rhythm is something I should try more, in particular, because I absolutely suck at rhythm, thanks.

>>68277439
You do have a point, but I did also ask how to get better at actually putting scales into use besides ascending/descending and simple tricks, and his post addresses that.

>>68277439
Oh, break out the pencil and paper if it's a memory thing. Say you want to practice X scale with a,b,c root notes; write out the whole thing and drill it. There are no points for how fast you can commit this stuff to memory. Work it out by hand on paper, practice, back to paper for different arrangement, practice. It won't be second nature right away and it doesn't have to be. Time and repetition solves that eventually.

>>68277231
Jesus, stop calling it the "top." Its the headstock. That guitar is fucked, and just blasting some screws through a major break like that isn't really considered a "repair," even if you skeeted some CA glue in first.

>>68277582
whatever. you guys are just a bunch of mean jerks

>>68277630
Its just irritating to see something that could have been correctly repaired and instead had been damaged beyond repair by some idiot with a drill and some screws.

>>68277693

anon go check the previous thread

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>>68277693
man the headstock is all it is through. it has some little stuff on the back too but I do not understand all the meanness you guys are dong to me in here

>>68277710
Ok. Checked out the previous thread. You're either incredibly thick or trolling. You made a horribly shoddy, ugly repair to a guitar with a broken headstock and you refuse to accept the idea that the value is seriously hurt by it. If you smashed an old vase and taped it back together, would it have the same value as before?

>>68277831

that's not me,

and >>68277796 is not the original posted

you're just being strung along anon

being played like a fiddle

getting coaxed into snafu

>How long have you been playing?
I've been playing for 12 years, both guitar and bass'=

>Fav guitars?
I love the ESP brand, My favorite guitar is an Edwards which is a sub company of ESP and has a floyd rose and my 5 string bass is an ESP LTD

>Fav guitarists?
Hizaki (Versailles, Solo)
Andy la Rocque (King Diamond)
Rhandy Rhoads (Ozzy Ozbourne)

>Projects?
I'm currently playing my 5 String Bass in a Djent/Tech Death band, guitarist plays an 8 string guitar

I also play lead guitar and keyboard in my original band

>>68277796
The value of mass produced objects for sale is determined in part by their condition. You took a badly damaged guitar and made it worse by doing incredibly poor "repair" work. It doesn't matter if the rest of the Les Paul is in nice shape, its still going to be hard to sell.

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>>68277875
dude no I looked it up in google it is from 1992 this is one of the best years for Gibson Les Paul guitars ever and you guys are trying to tell me it is not worth anything. that is for sure not true at all

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>>68277855
>coaxed into a snafu

>>68277891
didn't say it wasn't worth anything, said it would be hard to sell.

How much would it cost to get my action, intonation, and other stuff set correctly?

>>68277892
I'm gonna need that shit with sound, those orgasm faces are too good to watch without.

>>68277918
Around $60.
It's a time consuming process depending on the guitar.

>>68277891
...and what do you think the difference is between the guitars you looked up and your guitar? I'll give you a hint: big ugly bolts

>>68277918
Do you have tools and a very accurate tuner?

If so, free. Learn to do it.

>>68277264
>>68277285
I don't get flamed maple tops, on some guitars it is just absolutely gorgeous, and on some others like this one, it looks super tacky.

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So I have been looking for some Tone City pedals but it looks like the only dealer in the US is Riff City... who I've literally never heard of until I started searching for Tone City.

But I also noticed when I search for that, I see a lot of results for 'Donner' pedals. They seem to be new and upcoming, has anyone tried them?

Tone City sells for like $40/pedal in the UK but $70+ here in the US... Donner is about $20-40/pedal in the US.

>92 was very good year for Les Pauls, I keep a couple cases in my cellar for special occasions

He has posted those pictures for three or so threads now. Stop responding, no one is actually that dense.

>>68277935

https://youtu.be/CXSHs6f_5TU

>>68278006
Thank you kindly.

>>68272855
i don't really know what to say except to listen to a LOT of jazz and really start to understand the vocabulary (there is a pretty specific vocabulary in each different style)

and transcribe a bunch of solos. i mean working through the changes even if you're just running up and down scales/arpeggios is gonna help you no matter what

>>68276977
>I think it is fine really
Then why did you fucking ask us.

Good luck having no one buy it with your self assured "It's fine, these guitar players have no idea what they're tlaking about" horseshit.

You stupid bitch, listen to people who know better than you or fuck off.

>>68276930
joe darts

>>68277956
How much would a very accurate tuner cost?

>>68277831
He's been dragging it out for two threads now, re-posting the same images. Even if the first thread really was just an idiot, he's been supplanted by a troll now.

>>68277966
Another thing I don't get is Riff city sells these for $70+ but you can buy nearly any Tone City pedal from Andertons and they'll ship it to the US for a total of $60-65 per pedal.

Riff city seems full of crap .

>>68277918
Before you go throwing money at a guitar tech, look up youtube tutorials on how to do these things. Even truss rod adjustment is a simple process so long as you understand that small adjustments win the race on that.

Saddle height and intonation is very easy stuff.

>>68278070
I do it with my polytune clip in strobe mode. They're not expensive.

>>68278075
gotcha. Seemed like new pictures were being added, but I must have just missed the previous threads.

I wanted to talk to other musicians who are in bands...

>>68278066
I am not asking about the top at all I was asking for a price we should ask now that I fixed it. the top is fine and holds on the strings on no problem

>>68278107

$300

>>68277966
The king of blues is nice. Not a fan of anything else they have though.

>>68278107
The top is a PART OF THE FUCKING GUITAR, YOU BITCH.

$100. Now fuck off.

>>68278107
Ah, just give up, bro. It was funny at first, and I love the way you keep saying 'top'. But now it's stale.

>>68278064
I think the biggest problem for me is that I don't spend enough time listening to wind instruments in jazz.
As guitarists we get stuck listening to other jazz guitarists and try to pull inspiration from them rather than other sources.
Wind instruments seem to do a way better job of creating a melody within the notes available.

>>68278142
whatever. I think we are just going to ask $1000 like the one guy in here said and see

>>68278102
What did you want to talk about?

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Who here tunes to all fourths?

>>68278204
In case you're just a glutton for punishment and not just an obstinate troll, get used to people laughing out loud in your store.

>>68278221
no I will put it up on ebay later. we will see who has the last laugh you jerk

>>68278214
Ew...
I would miss my closed position chords too badly.

>>68278251
You'll be laughing all the way to the bank, Liberace.

>>68278251
Don't forget to report back, I could use a good laugh now and then.

>>68278251
Oh please post the ad. Even if it's fake it'll be hilarious.

>>68278256
I'm not sure if you're using the phrase 'closed position' properly.

>>68278208
I just wanted to see what kinds of bands people are in and the equipment they use.
Band experiences and stories are always fun too.

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>>68278283
Closed position chords.
Without that Major third interval it becomes more difficult to play them spanning across two octaves in any position(the second octave wouldn't truly be closed position, but nearly)

Both of these chords are in root position.

Started playing last week
What are some beginner friendly songs?

>>68278320
So rather than discuss guitar music that bands play, you'd rather discuss the superficial things like gear and "that one time I black out on stage" or "got in a fight" stories.

>>68278478
First song I learned was House of the Rising Sun.

Yeah, I was limited to very simple song books back in those days. Still teaches you a couple of chord shapes.

>>68278472
How do you usually play these? The only close position barre I can think of is C-shape, which is doable in fourths.

>>68278478
My first real song was Purple Haze

>>68278478
Like a Stone by Audioslave is the first I could play from back to back. The chords in the chorus will give you trouble, but the sooner you learn to deal with bar chords the better, so just take it like a man.

>>68278626

Wouldn't you have more trouble with the solo if you don't own a Whammy pedal?

>>68278653
I'd just play the solo without the whammy or using a pitch shift VST. Sure, you lose expressiveness(which you can sort of work around if your guitar has a tremolo bridge), but it's still very doable. Other than that it's a really easy solo.

>>68276767
Holy fuck your boss is an idiot. I guess if he runs a pawn shop he's not the smartest.

Going to hit the cash converters this week-end for a beginner bass, what should I look for, /mu/ ?

>>68278815
Buy a Yamaha trbx.

Anyone here ever tried a 2tek bridge?

>>68278839
>2tek
More like 2kek, amirite?

>>68276305
Idk even know man, that dude rips. I've watched the solo he has on the vulfpeck channel like 30 times

>>68277966
Definitely go for Donner, I bought the Tutti Love Chorus as a trial to eventually upgrade to a Boss CE-2 WaZa or an old blood noise reflector but this one blew me away. I'm Thinking about getting that Delay as well.

>>68270935
Looks like the nut was damaged pretty bad. Or was it like that before the break happened?

>>68279030
holy shit, I didn't even notice the nut. That's appalling.

>>68279066
Yeah, even if the headstock repair is solid it definitely needs a new nut if nothing else.

>>68279066
Yeah, but the nut's easily replaceable. It's the rest of the guitar that's fucked.

>>68278518
Seriously? Gear is not superficial by any means. It creates the tone that you're playing, which is an art in itself.

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>>68276767
>my boss dropped it off the counter and broke off the top

>>68279108
>Two ugly galvanized bolts through it
>Solid repair

It's gore and it's being posted as a troll at this point.

Jesus fucking christ, how are all you faggots STILL falling for the bait? He's clearly trolling you.

>>68279211
here comes roman posting the "newfags cant tell blabla"

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>>68279211
I would say my original post but Roman turned it into a meme
>>68279246
mfw

>>68279125
>It's the rest of the guitar that's fucked.
Nah, headstock breaks are just a natural part of the Les Paul lifestyle unfortunately. It's just a few hundred dollars to make a repair on something like that and you're back in business.

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>>68279135
>wait who dropped what now?

>>68278200
>>68278200
you should definitely try to transcribe wind instrument stuff.

although i don't really know if i agree that wind instruments do a better job with melody

>>68278478
Nothing Else Matters by metallica. Really simple song. Even the solo is beginner friendly.

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>>68270935
>>68270950
>>68271008

>>68272132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztccvaZ9_7k

The little bridge before the solo/chorus should give you ample opportunity to practice basic barree chords, especially if you play the descending glissando as well.

>>68272132
What level are you in? David Bowie's Rock'n Roll Suicide has a short section where you're just using the basic shape across the fretboard which is great to practice on if you're just beginning.

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You know I didn't like these at first but I got a few in a variety pack and they are starting to grow on me.

dae jazz III?

>>68280167
Jazz III XL or Ultex Sharp.

Tortex is trash from a bygone age.

>>68280191
this. dunlop carbon fiber picks are the way of the future

>>68280191
>>68280231
tortex is great. sounds so warm

>>68280167
i like the xl jazz model. theres a tortex model that i still need to try.

>>68280254
tortex is shit

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Stop bullying tortex

>>68280267
nice explanation you idiot

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>>68280277
fuck tortex

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>>68280300
You take that back!

My boss os-2 is being very difficult. I bought it used on ebay a few days ago and have been using it with my bass but after about an hour of playing with it it starts making popping noises and the sound cuts out. I don't know how to replicate the problem but it's happened yesterday and today. Does anyone know what's going on?

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>that guy who tries to turn every discussion in /gg/ into a debate, literally and figuratively.
>Even goes so far to say, "you won't even debate me about it"
>Topkek

>>68280411
Yeah got scammed.

>>68280432
which guy?

>>68280432
are you referring to the guy who said all PRS guitars were made of 50% bondo and kept making "fight me"-like comments?

>>68280432
>and I'm mad because I can't argue my point successfully
>so mad I'll fling out this shitpost like a monkey
>and pretend like I'm laughing through my tears

I've been playing electric about a year and I've never learned how to use a pick and instead use some sort of classical-esque finger picking Should I kill the habit now and start learning how to pick?

>>68279128
>gear creates the tone
So if I leave my guitar on it's stand plugged into the amp, it will create tone?

The musician makes the tone, Van Halen would sound like himself playing any guitar because of the way he plays.
Gear can certainly be superficial after a certain point, it really doesn't matter if you're playing a Blackstar or a Marshall.

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Does anyone have experience with GFS pick-ups? Planning to build a HH Partscaster for some stoner/doom and I don't want to spend too much money if I can help it.

>>68280547
theyre pretty ok. good for the price but dont expect miracles.

>>68280476
Really? Should I try to get a refund? Is there a way to fix the pedal?

>>68280543
>So if I leave my guitar on it's stand plugged into the amp, it will create tone?
ain't that the whole point of drone/noise ?

>>68272855
Well, from the 1st chord of each 4 bars, theres an Ab note in each chord (Fm7 and DbMaj7).

If I were soloing over that, I'd think about all the ways I could link the two.
-I could make ascending arches
-Descending arches
-jumble a cluster of 3 notes or so to form some kind of coherent melody
-do some chord stabby thing with common tone Ab

Really its about seeing chord tones, picking a start and an end, and recognizing a path that sounds good. Often its told that 3rd and 7th note of the chords are the money tones, and the 1st and the 5th are the safe tones.

>>68280596
Perhaps?
I don't listen to it.

>>68280593
Do you want us to hold your hand when you pee as well or what you fucking moron

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>>68280500
prs a shit. go gibson or go home

CE-2W or something else?

>>68280660
Fuck off faggot I've never owned a pedal before.

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>>68280680
lol

>>68280543
I agree that the musician makes the definitive tone of what they play, no matter the equipment they use. I'm not arguing against that.
I was just making a point about gear not being completely superficial.

>>68280652
Gotcha, yeah, the first 5 chords are in Ab Major/F minor and the last 2 are in C Major/A Minor.
The reason I like to include the minors is because it give us an optional leading tone(Harmonic minor) to choose from.
Sometimes we can utilize the minor pentatonic built upon the tonic of a major key which gives access to a flat 3rd and flat 7th, because for some reason in blues the minor second dissonance doesn't make us cringe.
I'll see what I can do, making improv more melodious was my biggest enemy here. Thanks for the advice.

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>>68280742
lol

>>68274899
How come literally every single demo of a guitar I see, the guitar player sucks fucking ass?

>>68280543
Nah thats bullshit. You really think you'd be able to identify EVH if he were playing a LP through a Fender?

>>68276715
id kill for that thing for 900, what a steal

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meanwhile at prs

>>68280533
If you are satisfied with the tone you get from fingers there is no reason. This usually goes the other way around for newbies; they become reliant on the pick and are totally lost without one.

One thing you can try if you want the sharper attack a pick provides is to try finger picks. They slip on to the ends of your thumb, index, middle and ring fingers. Popular with banjo pluckers. A lot of people try them once and throw them away instantly because they feel awkward. They have potential though, given practice.

>>68280806
Yes, the guy's technique is pretty unmistakable.
As long as there aren't disciples of his in the double blind test it would be pretty straight forward funding him.

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>>68280742
>>68280818
http://newatlas.com/most-valuable-guitars-ever-sold/38147/
Yeah, let me know if one of your bondo shitsticks ever makes it onto a list like this.

>>68277891
1992 LP with a top tier punk-style headstock repair? Where do i buy it?

>>68280781
>comparing mcarty era gibsons with minimum wage henry "the penny jew" juszkiewicz era borderline sweatshop "the worst company to work for in america for 3 consecutive years" gibshit

>>68280596
Definitely. Just nudge the guitar with your feet every once in a while. Very experimental and new new wave.

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>>68280875
>implying a vintage gibson isn't a gibson
lol

>>68276206
You know Do re me fa so la ti? Always remember where your Do's and So's, anon. Your root note. Your Tonic and Dominant. 1st and 5th. Do and So.

If you don't know where you're Do is, youre lost.

In this case your Do is G. Always be consious of where you can land on a G if you start to get lost.

>>68280802
Because guitar salesmen are failed musicians mostly.

>>68271008
lol

probably worth about $400 like that

a luthier will have to do a shitload of work to replace the damage caused by putting screws into it, usually a break isn't too bad but those screws have made it 5x worse

probably cost about $500 to fix and not many people are going to drop more than $900 on a previously fucked les paul

>>68280909
>can't into reading comprehension

>>68280802
andy from proguitarshop is good, i like the way he plays

>>68281000
>he can't defend his claim

>>68281002
yeah andy is cool
I like john bolinger cuz hes so goofy and happy all the time

paul from guitar world sucks
phil x is the most annoying fag ever

knobs and dennis keyser make cool vids but their playing style is so unique they manage to make every pedal they demonstrate sound the same and I can never really tell what the pedal sounds like

that russian guy that demos every pedal ever made is pretty good too

mike hermans is too neat and perfect in his playing and it sounds weird

that burger guy from austrailia is annoying too and like an aussie paul from guitar world with dumb van halen garbage licks

Is prs the fedora of guitar brands?

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>>68281080
>I like john bolinger cuz hes so goofy and happy all the time

oh anon...

>>68281084
>Is [_____] the [_____] of [______]?
please fuck off

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>>68281084
No, PRS is the Apple of guitar brands. Complete with a Steve Jobs style Boomer guru at the top.

>>68280167
waiting on .50 and 1.5 tortex jazz III and the carbon fiber jazz III to arrive to try them out, usually just use the red max grip jazz III but I've got a bunch of different ones I shift in between

>>68281080
>I like john bolinger cuz hes so goofy and happy all the time

Look into his eyes, he's dead inside.

BOSS CE-2W, JAM Waterfall, or Providence Anadime? Can't fucking decide…

>>68280680
I own PRS and Fender. I will own a Gibson acoustic one day, an original 50's passed down from my grandfather... but I will never own a current day Gibson guitar unless it is given to me.

>>68281084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNiTyA371D8
you tell me

>>68281084
probably

they have very good quality from one to another, sound very good, play excellently but they are about as dorky as you can get because theres never been any popular hipsters to use them

they were used by blooze farts and numetal fags in their heyday

>>68281084
If a fedora is something that guys who claim to know a lot about women but actually know nothing wear... then I'd say the fedora of guitar brands is probably something either more obscure or something tacky. Like Carvin.

No, PRS is more the Ferrari of guitar brands. Most of their stuff is completely over the top and many people cannot afford them. They are excellent in quality and highly regarded by many critics, but you're likely to upset a few peasants if you own one.

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>>68281202
>presents his subjective opinion
>complete with irrelevant anecdotal evidence to support it
lol

>>68281080
JayLeonardJ is pretty good

>>68281273
>Most of their stuff is completely over the top
where are the weird preamps
where are the super exotic woods
where are the weird shapes and stupid fretboards
where are the useless extra strings
PRS are not over the top at all.

>>68281273
I think that's too complimentary.

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>>68281084
does this answer your question

>>68281383
oo look at me im playing open strings and having an orgasm hurrr hurrr I hope that lard ass commits suicide/

>>68281383
>that chuckling sound engineer in the back

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>>68281216
lmao fuckin saved. Check out this doozy in the recommended videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fapKl4ydOIk

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>mfw faggots are still arguing instead of getting gud

>>68281473
Looks more like he lost the will to live

>>68281383
>that guy laughing at him

that is so embarrassing. guitarists are such awful people.

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>>68281116
>>68281514
pretty much this

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>>68281574
will they ever learn senpai

>Tfw buy a cab but no amp head

>>68281216
I still can't understand how they can make electrics without adjustable intonation.

>>68281574
why actually do anything when you can shitpost on the internet about it?

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wew lad

>>68281630
>>68281514
>>68281383
>>68281216
>>68281116


wtf i hate prs now

>>68280802
this applies to that steve jobs scummy advertising turtle prs who screams "notice me senpai!"

>>68281693
Well that's an accurate advert, you sure ain't getting out no definition with a stupid short scale

>>68281648
>>68281574
why would you cover beautiful wood crafted from 100's of years of nature with your poorly drawn cartoons a 12 year old could make in 30 minutes

Can someone explain to me what musical materials to use to make a bridge? I'm not really even sure what they are.

>>68281741

why not, anon?

>>68281676
How

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>>68281752
On electrics, they're usually made out of metal, bro. Start there.

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>>68281084
um....

>>68281752
Bridges are usually made from metal or wood

>>68281752

Depends, acoustic bridges are usually made out of bone, graphite, rosewood and the shitty ones plastic

electric guitars use nickel and still, some rosewoord too

>>68281693
just as bad as prs

>>68281693

Wew Fender are really running this whole "well every single alternative band in the late 80's-early 90's used our guitars!"

>>68271008
what in the hell is this shit

>>68281915
New troll.

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New thread:

>>68282038
>>68282038
>>68282038

>>68270935
Fake

>>68280533
you don't have to stop playing with your fingers, but you should learn how to use a pick at some point. You'll come to appreciate the articulation, efficiency, and sound a pick gives you in many situations.