Drawfag Improvement Thread

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~ CHALLENGE #4 : WORST or BEST Original Character! ~

- Draw either the WORST or BEST OC you can possibly think of. Do your best to be creative; anyone can make a black and red pony.
- You WILL need a tripcode OR a name! Otherwise you won't be able to prove your pony is yours.
- If you are found to steal or in any way plagiarizer you are obviously cut from the competition. If you cheat and re-enter I can't really do anything but I'd hope you guys would be honest as I hope I can trust y'all.
- If you'd like a bit of a challenge, I'll post one of the palettes and you can use it or not.
- You may enter up to 3 OCs
- Your OC is limited to any kind of sentiant being such as - pony (mare, stallion, filly, foal, baby, alicorn, earth, pegasus, unicorn and any other kind of pony I forgot), dragon, griffon, donkeys, breezies, changelings, and any other sapient beings. So no bunnies for example, but dragons are fine.
- The winner will be chosen through a poll! So I'm not voting on my own; we all are.
- AND Whomever wins will get a real prize (and it's not some shitty request!)

~The Voting will begin Tuesday, March 14. The winner will be announced Saturday, March 18!.~

(Pic related is one of the palettes that I saturated a bit and changed the hues a little. It's NOT necessary, it's just for people that need an idea.)

If you have any other questions let me know~

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http://br-david.deviantart.com/art/Pony-running-vector-animation-289840562
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Applejack_and_winona_S01E04.png

>>29635319
we've seen this. stop spamming.

>>29635345
No you haven't. I literally just drew that.

>>29635382
It's hard to tell when they all look the same. >>29618497

>>29634241
kek
thank you senpai

>>29635661
ur welcome bump

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This is how you're supposed to use guidelines, right? /s

>>29636006
Made me giggle

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Go draw something

>>29635501
they don't look the same
this >>29635319 is better

keep going anon

>>29636006
fancy you need to post more i miss your twis

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>>29635198
Dips on 52

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I haven't seen any For Honor crossover faggotry yet, so I started this.

Haven't decided who the pone should be. Also drawing hands is hard enough for me already, and the Lawbringer's gauntlets are quite complicated.

>>29636627
why not griffin?

>>29635198
97 is literally Nyx

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>>29636006
I don't know where I'd be if it weren't for guidelines.

>>29636717
You gotta win a worst OC somehow

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>>29635198
Holy fuck.
The last challenge already killed me.

Time to roll and see where it takes me.

Also thank you redlinder.

>>29637083
why do you never draw manes

>>29637208
Who said Nyx is bad?

>>29638332
I

>>29636006
This is exactly what I do with guidlines. MAYBE...that is why every poni face I do is different.

bunp

fuck guidelinnessssss

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>>29635198
sgt. spring breeze and his trusty stead, Hazel

>>29640477

Post your work, friend.

>>29635198
Rolling

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http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Applejack_and_winona_S01E04.png

>>29635198
hmm looks like fun.

>>29641377
Damn, man. You're getting better. Keep it up!

>>29635319
Wow i remember when you started with the twilight ones. To be honest seeing you improve has kept me going. Thanks

>>29641934
bump'n'roll

>>29642583
83? With that I will try to go for the best OC.
Also didn't mean to reply there.

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>>29635183
I could really use a shit ton of help. I'm trying my best to follow the instructions, but it seems like my ponies always turn out like deformed potatoes with wrong proportions. You can't even tell if it's a stallion or a mare, or what animal in general.

I can't even draw circles which look like circles and I've been practicing since days to draw them.

I'll get to the colouring and outlining when I can finally sketch ponies which look like ponies.

Every little bit of help is appreciated, thank you.

>>29640882
That's adorable.
>>29642588
do it
>>29642735
I can help you in a few hours but right now I'm busy, sorry.

>>29642802
That'd be amazing

>>29642802
I can do whatever I want with the pallete right? I can blend and have all the fun as long as I stick to the colors.

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>>29635198
submission 2
dope ass timbs standard

>>29643676

Please tell me this is in the MLP movie.

I don't get it. I can use a given pallete but don't have to stick to it or even use it right? I just have to make an OC. Good or bad.

>>29644541
Yes. I gave the palette because you guys seemed to like using it. It's optional. The challenge itself is to create a good or bad OC. That's it

I am bad at giving names to oc-s. A good (at least considered good) oc-s How to do it?

>>29644877
Usually they consider colors, talents, likes, etc of the pony

>>29635198
Do we win a prize?

>>29645277
- The winner will be chosen through a poll! So I'm not voting on my own; we all are.
- AND Whomever wins will get a real prize (and it's not some shitty request!)
\o/

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>mfw i haven't drawn anything in over a week

>>29635198
can i submit a goat?

>>29645619
Can you prove there is a sapient goat in the show?
>Your OC is limited to any kind of sentiant being such as - pony (mare, stallion, filly, foal, baby, alicorn, earth, pegasus, unicorn and any other kind of pony I forgot), dragon, griffon, donkeys, breezies, changelings, and any other sapient beings. So no bunnies for example, but dragons are fine.

>>29645619
>>29645645
There are in the iron will episode. They even got ear equipment to talk to each other.

>>29645660
Yup, you're right, go ahead.

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>>29635198
i will take my Ow The Edge award now please

>>29645869
Haha oh jesus. Can't wait for the polls.

I should remind youse guys that you have a week to enter and then some amount of days I forget to vote

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>>29645869
did another one for funsies

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Decided to redraw my old cruddy OC from when I was 10. I didn't even know about the challenge, but I guess this counts.

Also, I might do more of these, but this thread doesn't seem like the right spot. Anyone know a thread where I could post more stuff like this?

fuck

>>29646345
same

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>>29646289
>old cruddy OC from when I was 10.
>there are people on this board who were 10 years old when the show aired

>>29646460
>It's a show for kids and 30 year old kids
>>29646289
I want to see the 10 year old drawing of it

>>29635198
Role

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http://i.imgur.com/zYBiSuZ.png
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Applejack_and_winona_S01E04.png

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>>29637733
I don't know. I find that I often do so when I'm not trying to maintain a certain style though.

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its somethin

>>29635198
[s]no[/s]

>>29646289
>>29646460
>He's only 16
Might want to delete that post there.

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>no paint people in this thread
I miss silly posting

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I was wondering if u could give me some tips. I tried drawing my oc and this is what my attempts yelded. I would like to improve my drawing skillz which r pretty much zilch. So where do I go from here?

PS I'm gonna color it in too.

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>>29648106
Fundies.

>>29646755
Thankfully, I "disposed" those old drawings ages ago. I kinda had to do this from memory, but that's easy when it's basically a RD recolour.

>>29646460#
I originally got into the show when there only 3 seasons, so, yeah.

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>>29648128
Thanks. Which pony is easiest to learn to draw? I can kinda draw twilight but it turns out very 2d like my oc.

Also out of ten to kring what do u guys think of my oc.

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>>29635198
there certainly is a lot of blue. interesting.

>>29648299
How is it that I've never seen this gif.

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>>29648128

I'M FEELING IT

>>29647959
We could do an MSpaint challenge. pencil brush in photoshop/sai pencil don't count
>>29648165
>Thankfully, I "disposed" those old drawings ages ago
Boooooooooooo
>>29648299
I just fucked around with saturation
>>29635198
rollin' muhself

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>>29635198
>Not making a grayscale challenge

>>29648695
that's why I have you guys to do it for me

>>29648695
Rollin

>>29635198
rollan

>>29648695
15 looks perfect...

>>29648912
Ahah oh jesus. For real though, 48 looks really good.

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Am I doing this rite guys?

>>29649192
Is that an MSPaint pony you drew with a touch pad? Delicious.

>>29649202
I thought about adding some color to it, but then I realised that the level of cancer that would cause is something nobody wants to witness

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For the people that want a better palette, here you fuckin gooooo

Which one of you undercooked scallops wants a hard d/ic/king?

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>>29646815
Ech, I couldn't even use every color.

>>29649240
Roll again

>>29648689
>We could do an MSpaint challenge. pencil brush in photoshop/sai pencil don't count
Would pixel art in Paint count?

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>>29649192
>>29649224
U Makin fun of me m8

Face on veiw. I know this is meme level bad but where do I begin to improve? I some day want to be on the level of the drawfags on here. Pretty sure that im not even on the level of drawbicurious ATM.

>>29649734
As long as it's in MSPaint. Is Paint like an iOS version?
>>29649899
***** http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2 ******

>>29649926
Nah, it's just what Windows calls it starting with Vista I think

>>29649926
>having that fucked up comparative anatomy shit
>expecting to take seriously

>>29649926
I bet you just love linking that same album to 10 different people in every thread.
Come on people it's not that hard to read the fucking op.

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>drawing on 4chan x

>>29649996
No one here can help you with that attitude. You need to learn fundamentals before we can do anything for you because you at least need some modicum amount of experience drawing and drawing ponies.
>>29649998
bb u no it

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Is this the basic idea of drawing the head at a cocked angle and any mistakes to fix? Like I said I'm new and don't know much about drawing. I get the purpose of the cross in a circle for head but just out of curiosity what do they call the cross. I know I probably sound dumb btw.

>>29650010
no I mean out of all the more or less decent resources the comparative leg anatomy shit is shitty and wrong, and this has been pointed out multiple times before so why is it still there

>>29650138
Okay, well, I (and a lot of people here) agree that the leg anatomy is good or at least good enough for a cartoon pony. Look, I don't like to be mean, but as a wise man once said, "If you don't love it, you can shove it."

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Have I been insulted?

>>29650192
aHAHAah oh I'm sorry.

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>>29650086
ok so the cross goes like this:
- vertical from the highest point of the skull to the middle of the nose, between the nostrils
- horizontal from eye to eye or brow to brow

do note that G4 ponies have such curved faces that it's probably easier to draw the vertical as flowing along the midline of the face instead

>>29650158
your album already has a few good and great leg anatomy things, the shit one has no reason to be there expect misplaced nostalgia

>>29650293
>your album
Oh, it's not MY album. I'm not sure who even owns it anymore or I'd tell him to take some shitty shit out and add some good shit in.
>ok so the cross goes like this etc...
good pic related

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I tried something completely differen then I ussualy do. And a chubby Ponk poped out.

>>29650367
Now I see I can shorten the right arm. It is too long.

>>29650402
I think what you should really fix is that the rope she swings on isn't taut enoughand her left leg is really smooshed, otherwise it's very cute

>>29650418
Oh yeah the ropes. I didn't pay attention to them. Phisics? Who cares...

>>29650448
The C&C monster cares and will get you!
or whatever

>>29650293
The cross doesn't need to be anything really. It's just a guideline, so use it however you want as long as it helps you. I like to split the head into quadrants, while others like to put things lower or higher. Proceed to shit all over my face if you disagree though.

>>29650535
I'm personally in the habit of using the brow ridges as the horizontal checkpoint because I drew a lot of horses before venturing into MLP and the brow is the widest part in a horse's head. Getting the length and width as well as the forehead-nose ratio figured out before bothering with details is good.

For pony heads the cross is most useful for perspective methinks, and keeping features symmetrical.

>>29650535
I always draw myself guidlines and mess around anyway. But still they help me to place things. And if something is off I fix it. that is why I don't draw on paper too much. I really like to ship my Shift with Z. This is the best shipping.

>>29650662
Darn. My Control with Z. what the heck. Time to sleep!
I killed the joke.

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>>29645350
Sweet :^)

Got 77 but I'm probably going to deviate a lot from it.

>>29650680
beb u do w/e u wan

>>29650902
k.
I need to remake an action hotkey because I lose it moving back to CS6 masterrace. Does anyone want me to make a tutorial on action hotkeys while I'm at it? Pretty simple to do, one time set up, and saves a fuck load of time.

>>29650959
I'd appreciate it, and I'm sure some others might too.

>>29650959
You might as well.

>>29650965
>>29650992
Alright, might be a second because I need to redownload obs.

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>>29635198
Here's a pic of my oc someone drew for me on drawthread.

>>29651112
As nice as i is, it doesn't count because the whole point is to make a NEW OC. I should have clarified that, I'm sorry. You also have to had drawn it yourself.

>>29648695
>>29649240
rollety

>>29635198
fuk forgot

>>29650959
>>29650965
>>29650992
https://sendvid.com/aphv06z0

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>>29651320

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>>29651129
Oh. I might just make a new OC then.

Here's another less cringy head shot of my oc.
PS her name's Sonic boom.

>>29635198
>>29651559
dat

>>29651594
Oh shit nigga.

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I decided to try drawing a ghost and it looks like a finger.... It's hilarious!

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>>29651695
you need to stop

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>>29651771
I'm not stopping I. Drawing someday I'm gonna draw like the draw fags.

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>>29650680
more wip. Tried something new that I might use again in the future. Feels good man. I'm not even sure if it saved time or not.

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>>29648689
>We could do an MSpaint challenge. pencil brush in photoshop/sai pencil don't count

it´s been ages since we had a good paint thread

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>>29650535
>It's just a guideline, so use it however you want as long as it helps you. I like to split the head into quadrants, while others like to put things lower or higher. Proceed to shit all over my face if you disagree though.


YOUR WAY IS WRONG. REEE.

Nah in all seriousness I use it as a perspective guide and I also indicate where the brow is and how big the forehead will be. I adjust shit along the way.

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If you're using Photoshop I recommend a plugin called "Lazy Nezumi Pro", it helps a lot with drawing smooth lines.

>>29651695
>>29651831
Great but you're in the wrong thread. This isn't the "I'm going to post my stuff like my own gallery" thread this is the "I'm going to post my stuff and get the shit kicked out of me" thread.
>>29565019 Go here or go practice for a few weeks until you can understand anatomy a bit better. No one here can help you yet becase you're such a new artist. I don't know how many times I have to tell people this but when you come here, I'm not here to teach you every single little thing from the first drawing until you've gotten gud. I'm here to help people whom already -have- a grasp on drawing.

>>29651695

I can't tell if you're being serious or just shitposting but >>29652597 is right when telling you that you need to draw on your own for a bit. Come back in a week or two and you'll have better questions to ask.

>>29652597
Oh ok will do.

>>29652597
>>29652642
>>29652615
FUNDIES
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>>29649483
Second one.

Who wants to make the next Draw thread? The last has been archive.

>>29653448
I don't run that so you or anyone else can do it.
>>29653435
Green's a tough color palette but you did great with it

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http://i.imgur.com/eFL1viK.png
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Applejack_and_winona_S01E04.png

Are Huion tablets any good (like the H610)?

>>29653448
Sent ;)

>>29654047
at least you updated the thread links

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>>29642735
Tried it sideways and it's an improvement. I still can't get the proportions right though, it's hard.

>>29653601
>http://i.imgur.com/eFL1viK.png
this is kinda wrong

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>>29653601

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bumping with some real art.
I'm waiting for all the commissions!

>>29654966
nice try, zimbabwe jr.

>>29655093
It still looks better than Toxic Mario

>>29654687
Yeah it is.
>>29654736
This plus you gave the arms and legs as many joints as you wanted. There are not 6 joints in a pony leg. The bent arm is also wrong because the first bend should be bent the other way before it's bent down like that.Make sure you're actually paying attention to tutorials and not just making up your own thing

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>>29649192
>>29649926
Hey, I'm the guy that drew the "ponk". I used this dude's tutorial (using touchpad and MS Paint again, of course) and drew something like this. Took me like 5 minutes. Pretty nice, considering which app I used and the lack of mouse. Also, my drawing skills irl are shit, so that doesn't help either. What do yall think?

>>29655592
It looks like a pone

>>29655592
Honestly http://i.imgur.com/0WIdSTn.jpg is one of my least favorite tutorials because it doesn't go into arm and leg joints at all.

>>29655656
it does tho
a little
but does

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drawing on a tablet is difficult for me. How does this look? This is my OC, which looks a lot like babs I guess but I was thinking of android 18 when drawing the mane. The colors are from a random palette, since i never had it colored until now. I might keep these colors though. I kinda like it.
I'm up for /ic/ on this one. Especialy if you have something concrete for digital drawing.

>>29655710
Yeah but it should be doing that while they teach building ponie in the first part

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bump for git gud

>>29655530
I was trying to follow the tutorials, but I was working off of memory, and I forgot that the hoof joint and the one below the hock were the same joint. Thanks for pointing that out.

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>>29655592
Hooray, I can almost trace with my tablet!

I'm the next Toxic Mario and I'll sell lots of merch

>>29656608
Also, I get wobbly lines with SAI stabilizer set to S-5...

>>29655725
Fix her hind legs mate, other than that it is ok for a first attempt.

>>29656619
If your lines are wobbly with s-5 it is either your tablet is terrible or you are terrible and need to practice more.

>>29656642
I forgot to say that option 2 is more likely.

>>29656649
I think so too.

It's a Wacom but I used it like 6 times in 8 months for like 10 minutes each time

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>>29646289
Still couldn't find another thread, so I'll just post this here!

I happened to draw a few of these in the last two days, so I'll probably upload them later. Thankfully, they won't ALL be side views like this one.

>>29656596
One day you'll be able to work off memory just fine, but while you're learning, you should really have a reference. Hell eve the best need refs sometimes so don't feel too bad or nuthin'
>>29656790
Okay but the point of THIS thread is getting better. Not posting art. If you JUST want to post art without getting your ass kicked, go to Tumblr and post it there.
>>29656714
What are you using for a surface? in lap it's going to be real wobbly but on a desk it'll be fine. Shit I use a pillow for mine.

>>29656790
try this newfag
>>>/mlp/catalog

>>29656880
>What are you using for a surface?
My desk.

But as I said, maybe if I used it more than 6 times in 8 months it would look better

Foreshortening... When will the nightmare end!

>>29649240
One last roll.

>>29656880
I can understand that this may not be the best place for me to post, but I am still learning how to draw ponies at the moment. Besides, I'd rather not create and maintain a Tumblr account that I won't use much, and would prefer to stay somewhat-anonymous. I checked the catalog - THANKS, >>29656943# - and the only threads that are solely for drawings are this and the thread that's just full of requests. Perhaps someone should make an "Original Art Thread" for others to post their own art.

Also, I don't mind getting my ass kicked, or being criticised, but I will stop posting if that's what everyone wants.

>>29657525
No one here want anyone to stop. We want everyone to keep going.
Instead of posting old drawing that lead to nowhere post what you did recently. That way we can help you.

By the way. I've just spent 3 hours drawing pair of hind legs and I am still not happy with them. Life is hard.

>>29657525
you dense fuck that IS the "original art thread"
go post there
drawing requests is purely optional
altho if you do a request or two they'll kiss your ass raw

also it's not like we don't want you here, we're just trying to keep the thread on topic
you want /ic/? sure
redlines? comin' right up
some tricky aspect explained? we'll try
don't know what to try and improve on? we got notes
but don't show us everything you draw ok

>>29657578
Old drawings? The one last one I posted was only two days old, and I had drawn it with the intention of uploading here. The same one goes for the previous drawing, which was made the same day it was uploaded. I would never upload something old, or else I would have 'improved' from then.

I don't want to start an argument or be stubborn, but I'm just making a point.

>>29657629
I don't know whether to feel insulted or very thankful.

It's still mostly requests, but I see that, now that it's updated, people will post drawings there from time to time.

I take it that I should upload drawings that I didn't already post here. Bye!

>>29657629
Also, I would be interested in knowing what to do next to improve. I tried some different angles and leg positions (on the other Draw Thread, you're welcome) but I just went back to side views because it was time consuming, hard, and didn't turn out the way I planned it to.

Also, what are redlines? Are they just how-to-draws?

>>29657637
Oh I missunderstood the whole thing. My fault.

>>29657804
Redlines are your drawings with stuff fixed in them by a more skilled drawfag. Usually with a red line! So if perhaps your face is wrong, someone can redline a correct face into your work to show you which lines need to change and how.

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>>29657804
>what are redlines
HELLO. Pic related is an example of how I do redlines

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http://br-david.deviantart.com/art/Pony-running-vector-animation-289840562
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Applejack_and_winona_S01E04.png

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>>29653601
>>29647252
>>29629896
>>29618497
>>29635319
>>29641377
>>29624646
>>29658938

>>29648165
Uh, doesn't that mean you're 15 at the youngest?

>>29659074
I was wondering why you kept doing the same sorta thing every time. Good job, it's cute

>>29659074
Are you going to ink and color it? It'd look great!

>>29659074
That's really nice.

yo cm did anything come out of that sexy mama smith request or do i need to accept my sorrow and move on?

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I barely draw, but I'm still improving gang

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funtime activity: find bird photo. draw wingpone

>>29659074
gif when

>>29659973
Are you talking about: http://i.imgur.com/1izFz0g.png ?

>>29660892
>http://i.imgur.com/1izFz0g.png
yep. if memory serves, you had a humanized thing planned/sketched out as well

>>29660914
Let me see if I can find it. What was the request again?

>>29660914
I can't find anything. I can't even find the one I drew above your post in my files. This might have been around when I had to do that thing where you basically remove every single thing on your hard drive and start over? Which means I probably have it on my external somewhere :/

>>29660922
i do think the original request was just "something lewd with younger Granny Smith" and more specifically (should it interest requestmaker) along the lines of "granny Smith and grandpa Appleseed in the days of yore, working hard to populate their homestead with little Apples"

>>29660936
you made the pony one around June or July 2016
also hs i didn't realise you made it a foalcon

>>29660973
It's not foal-con, she's supposed to be mane six's age, I just guess she cam out that way because I made her a little thinner?

Honestly though, I hate to say it but I just have no fuckin' time right now. I'm even busy through spring break. Send me a ref of Gpa Appleseed; also I'm assumin you want him plowing her fields so if I have time I'll try but don't feel bad if don't :( Also sorry for my grammar/run on sentences; I've been sick for almost a week now

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>>29661000
>no time
i totally get it, been real busy myself too, been having trouble with a move and health and benefit bureaucrashit and wtfe

>ref
aye aye

>plowing
not required if you'd rather depict some other pastoral scene like irrigating her furrow or dusting off his seed bags please feel free to satisfy your whim

>>29659074
Don't know why but this gives me a smile.

>>29651892
Hi R

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Anyone have tips on Lineart improvements? It feels like it's lacking something...

>>29657460
Just went with #10

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>>29661202
Fucking damn it.
Here's one without the sketch showing through.

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>>29651559
aw shit I needed to go full nametard with this right?

it's not like I can definitely prove Dreamboat is my design but here's another doodle of mine with the same style

>>29661200
Make it thinner?

>>29659074

Hah. Good job mate.

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>>29661200
>RED
Outlines should be thicker than detailing lines. This makes it easier to tell objects from each other.

>ORANGE
Remember to taper your acute angles.

>YELLOW
Major facial features need to be in line bold enough to be readable. If your outlines are much thicker than the facial feature lines, the mouth and nostrils will look like ballpoint doodles on a featureless face, not like body parts.

>LIME
Make hair wisps large enough that they don't get mistaken for irregularities in the line. Try to make them flow according to the main flow of the hair so they don't jut out randomly like thorns.

>AZURE
Line thickness should be consistent within the same object and nearby objects within a shared general area.

>CORNFLOWER & PURPLE
Try to avoid wobbly lines on objects that aren't meant to look lumpy, they look unintentional. Either maker it wavy, unwobble it (cornflower), or figure out something to redeem the line's shape (purple).

>LILAC
Rule of thumb: thicker lines are closer, thinner lines are farther. This is an effect that can really bring lineart alive, but it needs to be consistent.

Objects that aren't in the foreground should not have foreground line thickness. Objects inhabiting the same plane should have a consistent line weight, or the thinner -lined parts will look like they're skewing away in a distorted perspective.

>PINK
Observe the amazing power of little black thickenings(TM) in corners--these serve to hint at shapes and depth differences and help in creating the illusion of 3D even if you never add actual shading to the work.

>>29661804

>AMBER
1. Eyes should not lose in (outer) line thickness to anything in the same plane. Humans have a psychological compulsion to locate a character's eyes, and the effect of thinner lines "hiding" the eyes amidst bolder lines is a bit creepy.

2. Remember to draw in some detail lines to denote creases wherever fabric or similar material is bunched up or pulled or whatever. Don't overdo it, a little detail goes a long way.

>LIGHT BLUE
Watch out for line conlicts like these--they create false impressions--here the ear (?) looks like it's a part of the bunny ruffle thing. Try to move the elements slightly for a clear overlap perspective to keep them visually separated.

how do i git gud
>>29658572

>>29661804
>>29661825
Thanks! I have a very shivering hand which my lineart suffers to pressure! I forgot a ton of things it seems, thank you for pointing things out!

>>29662235

Not that person but this video may help:

https://youtu.be/Q7c330ATRts

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I felt guilty I haven't drawn anything today and then I imagined being crushed by Twilight because of my laziness.
And because of that I have a question. How to draw better poni faces from a completely crazy angles. Especialy from the bottom. How to place muzzle and eyes correctly?
I have a cute Twilight picture idea in my mind but what see in our head is not what our hand makes on paper/screen.

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>>29661135
Hi

>>29662411
https://youtu.be/QBv5z0Y2odE

This has been helping me lately. But it's going to require you to draw a lot of half-cylinder shapes from different perspectives.

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>>29635198
>tfw too late

>>29663613
Nah it's not too late. There aren't enough of them yet

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>>29663679
Anon is of much happy!

>>29663836
I know this week and next week at the very least as spring breaks for some people (like me) and they'll have a lot of time to draw if they want so I'm going to keep the challenge going but give out extra ones too so that y'all don't get bored

>>29663836
Plus I get to make an OC too!

>>29663846
Going for best or worst?

>>29663878
It depends, haha

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>>29663898

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>>29624884
>Why don't you try a different perspective? http://i.imgur.com/lgG8kX5.jpg <--- Might be a good challenge for you
http://i.imgur.com/AQH8hgQ.jpg

I can't figure out how to get those fucking feathers right. When will that wing tutorial be done?

>>29664398
I don't know. It'll take a bit to get it just right because it has to be perfect. Despite being in here a lot, I do have a life :(

>>29656401
That's racist against noobs like me.

What do u draw on? Paper, phone, tablet, laptop (mouse or drawpad) or any other method I didnt list. I'm starting out using Adobe illustrator on my phone.

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>>29664906
Paper/pen and an intuos small on pc using paint tool sai. I actually prefer to draw on paper.

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Late admission maybe. I tried my best to pull off a good oc with the colours I was given here >>29641365.

>>29665860
>prefer paper
friend

>>29662432
this seem great for faces, but ponies has big unnatural eyes. I don't know what to do with them and I don't know what to do with bottom of snout. How does it connect to neck, basically how does it look like from the bottom. Where should I look for refs? I have no clue how to look for "bottom of poni face"

>>29665860
I love how you draw poni heads. Have you done or plan on doing some bigger picture? Also how does side and front look like with your style?

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>>29666185
I don't know if this is helpful, but I have this in my faves and it could be used as reference for some angles.

>>29666247
how many times do we need to tell you to fix the hind legs before you actually draw something new with better legs

>>29666185

I never said it was good for ponies but it will help with perspective.

>>29666342
i am cursed leg-man, all my legs are wrong

>>29666247
Tags: maud pie, wrong cutie mark

>>29666476
it actually baffles me, who pays attention to shit as irrelevant as cutie mark

>>29666195
>Also how does side and front look like with your style?

I haven't done any turn-arounds mostly because I'm almost constantly fiddling with proportions of the eyes and muzzle and general headshape. I don't really like the forehead in that particular fluttershy so it's something I'm still messing around with.

>>29666492
Yeah, not like there've been huge episodes about cutie marks or something

Might be irrelevant to the craftsmanship of anatomy/value/color/line weight/etc, but they're pretty closely linked to the character's identity.

>>29666523
Still I think you make a lovely poni faces from this angle. Honestly, I can say I learnt something from you and I often look at your pictures for a ref.

Why is my imagination producing only things I cannot make! Calm the fuck down you stupid brain! My hands cannot make it you dumbass.

>>29667147
Sketch your ideas the best way you can and add notes about details that you can't draw yet. Write down descriptions.
You can draw those things later, when you'll git gud.

Good ideas are too precious to waste them, to just ignore them like that.
desu you're the stupid one, not your brain

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>>29667147
Can relate. But my imagination is weird, it usually happens when I stare at the wall. It's one those stippled walls and it has thousands of tiny lumps, and I start seeing all kind of crazy things that I can't draw.

>>29666605
i guess, still sperging about cutie marks seems silly to me.

>>29667921

>>29667147
It does need to calm down for different reasons. Make an inspiration chart and strive for that with everything you do whether it takes a few hours, weeks, maybe even a few months on one piece. You need to practice making better art by making better art. You don't even need to master fundamentals to make a solid composition. So keep sketching ideas too.

>>29667147

Don't be so afraid, mate. At the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. Make mistakes and learn from them.

>>29666885

>I often look at your pictures for a ref.

Th-thanks fampai.

>>29668519
That is what I am trying to do. And I try to not care about time it takes me but sometimes when I look at people doing stuff in minutes I get a little frustrated. But I also remember they- most likely- do that longer then me.
But still it is painfull when you have an idea and just can't bring it to life.

>>29668636
People can only do that kind of stuff in a few minutes because they made making good work a habit. Just learn to enjoy the process itself and you'll eventually get faster.

Seems like I'll be able to get something done again sooner than I expected. Managed to get my head cleared up a bit so I can finally draw again without having to worry about other shit, really looking forward to it.

>>29666523
>>29666885
+1, I love the way you do your faces too. It's got sort of a certain charm to it that I really like. Good stuff.

>>29667147
I know that feeling all to well, I've got a text file in my art folder where I write down any Ideas that come to my mind if I remember to do so. Sometimes I'll also do a little basic sketch of it like the others suggested. Just find a way to hold on to those ideas for when you've gotten gooder, you'll probably be glad you did.

>>29668421

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coloring takes forever to do when you don't know the tools

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Still working on the entry for the competition
OC is totally not going to get named gold digger

>>29670096
That's why we spend years learning them 8)
>>29670333
>OC named
you could make it a hot chick, just sayin

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how's my perspective on this throne thingy?

>>29670096
Very nice. how did you figure out the scale the foal compared to discord?

>>29670651
That's the size of a mare compared to Discord, not a foal? I hope they know that :s

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>>29670645
- horizon slightly off the horizontal
- verticals all over the place
- short horizontals don't fall into the same threeish-point perspective as the rest of the thing

>>29670738
thanks. its true i have no idea what i'm doing. time to look at perspective guides

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>>29670738
that throne is clearly one point perspective. what you're showing looks to be 2 point

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>>29670645
here
>>29670738

>>29670096
Hang on, I'll give you a paintover.

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>>29670651
>how did you figure out the scale the foal compared to discord?
I don't, that's why is wrong.
is a old sketch anyway

>>29670691
Yes.

>>29670841
Front faces are very tricky, use a ruler to measure the proportions.

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>>29662079
>>29658572 →

>YELLOW
pick a damn lightsource

>AZURE
forelegs too short

>LIME
eyelids are curved surfaces, so shade them


>PURPLE
consistency:
- judging by the front ear, the back ear should be facing directly away from the viewer--don't show the inside
- pick one: A) opaque wings B) draw other wing partly visible through the other wing


>GREEN
posing: a rised stifle (tense) combined with loosey goosey gaskin + lower leg looks wrong, like partial limb paralysis

>LILAC
as best as you can, avoid, detect, and dispel unintended and unflattering sequences like these

as lined out in lilac, her neck seems thin and underslung, and it's hard to distinguish the wing from the mane.

>OVERALL
-the only way to learn shading is to study RL 3D subjects in person or via photos
-draw and shade some damn horses I'll guarantee it will help with poner
-also:
>red and black

>>29670890
>>29670939
I get what you mean and I too was thinking of "this should be in 1PP" but as you can see I wasn't providing a correction, only mapping what was already there.

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>>29670980
yer good. i was just wanting them to have a more full explanation

>>29670946
>>>29670691(You)
>Yes.
Oh good, I was worried. keep onnnn

>>29670960
Using all those different colors is rather confusing. Sound advice, but a lot of colors on something already colorful.

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>>29670946
There, Hold on though. Got a senvid going showing the paintover and tools you can use to save time. Might take an hour or so to upload though because shit third world internet.

>>29671118
thank you for your feedback
we are always striving to improve our service

>>29671187
Are you?

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>>29671181
oh wow THANKS
i'm using only one tool to paint kek

render is fucking hard reeee

>>29671386
https://sendvid.com/rf5sg2mr
Don't worry buddy. We're all gunna make it.

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>>29671507
clipping layers/locked layers and lasso tools are your best friends when it comes to tight rendering. useful as fuck
>>29671181
also i suggest moving around your image instead of rendering one whole figure at a time. it'll balance things out so it looks like you spent equal time on each part and so you dont over work one area in particular

>>29671386
>>29671552
I think you replied to the wrong person there, mate. But yeah. I should have probably mentioned that too. Work at the distance people are going to see your image at and it should fix that problem. There's almost no reason to ever have to zoom in. Especially in the early stages.

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>>29671587
nah i was watching it and it looked like that's what you were doing to work in some of the shading so i mentioned it~
also im very bored atm.

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>>29671507
>>29671552
>>29671587
Thanks. I wasn't painting photoshop because I didn't know how to use clipmask, but now I'll try it again.
About value, I didn't understand anything.

>zoom in.
I do it zoomed out and then zoom in to fix lines because there's no good clip mask or laso in this program.

>also i suggest moving around your image instead of rendering one whole figure at a time.

What? Do you mean flat paint the whole, semi-shading and then render?
I would do but this program don't have a nice rigg-rendering pencil like in the video kek.

Don't worry, I have no idea what I'm doing with the shadows either but I'll study it.

>>29671685
yeah. basically work the image as a whole but later on you can focus render the important stuff.

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>>29671619
Ohh yeah, I'll usually do that when I have a sketch layer over what I'm working on. Aside from the clipping masks I don't use a lot of things I used in the video during the block-in stages. Just showing what's there.

>>29671685
By keeping your values consistent, I mean the values on her body doesn't match the change in values on her hair. Almost as if it's in a completely different light scenario.

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Are you faggots getting gud yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B9xUfHC5Zw

>>29672387
Yes I am. I am following given instructions and I try to sketch my ideas the best way I can. After 5 hours of fun - believe or not, it was fun - I have something... something that I don't want to show to anyone but something I am happy with.

>>29670960
th-thanks. while drawing it i was kinda aware the light source was fucked but i'm not gud enough to fix it i guess. didn't even notice everything else, so thanks for taking the time to point out my shit f am. good guide, thumbs up
also, >red and black
i like her anyway

Thread had bumps like a truck (truck truck)
Drawfags like what (what what)
Bumpy move your bump (bump bump)

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>>29672387
taking my own advice and referencing stuff from photos - - need to find baby wings and refine/simplify the feet but overall I'm liking this sketch this far pretty much

>>29674913
I should look up some photos too and take refs from them. I have many photos of my dog from when I was younger. I could make some cute ponies out of them. Or maybe even try to just draw a dog. Why not to try something new!

>>29674913

Looks like a baby moonkin. That's cute.

>>29675079
heh thanks

Midterms week sucks :( I can't wait til friday to draw my own shitty or good OC.

** Is there anyone else that wants to enter the OC contest? **

>>29675369
I haven't finished mine yet. Been busy

>>29675369
yes but me is very slow =(

>>29675400
>>29675423
I will wait for you and anyone else that's not ready.

>>29675462
can we do more than one? if yes consider this my reroll for the first chart

How do you deal with getting a negative response or (worse in my opinion) a completely lukewarm, uninterested response to a completed art request/trade? Because it's killing me inside.

>>29675580


>>29635198
>You may enter up to 3 OCs

>>29675785

That's why I don't do art trades. Maybe they're just unsure how to express their appreciation? A lot of people in this fandom (especially the artists I know) tend to have depression and other forms of mental problems. Just move on and if they don't appreciate their gift then fuck em.

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Bought myself some watercolors today.
Now I can shit quality in color!

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>>29675785
I hate to say this but you're gonna have to get used to it. You can't please everybody. Honestly it's the best thing to do; you'll be a lot less anxious to critiques even if they don't also compliment. Basically you're not the best artist and you're not the worst artist so just give in to that and gitgud.
>>29676466
Oooh, do please share. When my computer was down and I crushed my knee a year ago, I drew pic related with watercolors yeah it's shit I know

>>29676972
>shit
dawg...
I drew my first watercolor picture since school today which was over a decade ago
Might post something tomorrow though

>>29676972
also how long have you been into art?

>>29677509
I started painting classes when I was 11, so I'm going to say that that's when. It probably matters that I'm 29

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>>29671908
how to separate background from the drawing?

>>29677595
Pinkie's side hair is a little long (could be the ref's fault) but looks good

>>29677669
Learn how to use the magic wand and the mask/selection tools. I don't have any videos or tutorials about it though. It looks like it IS separate. the brown's on a different layer

>>29677669
>>29677714
This. I just magic want the background and I've made a hotkey to select inverse, copy, and paste on a new layer.

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>>29677779
>>29677714

Well, I did the wand thing, it works. I painted the background in a new layer and done. Is this the correct way to do it?

>>29677795
yis probably; I'm waiting for R's answer lol

>>29677703
I think it might be too narrow rather than too long.

>>29677795
Yeah, that works.

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How do I into 2-point/3-point perspective? Is it as simple as it looks or is there a trick to it? I'm having a hard time lining up my rulers in a way that actually does what it's supposed to (using sai2)

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Am I getting better in the value thing?

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>>29678051
its about as it looks. and you can use all 3 in a picture to an extent. you can also make a grid off your composition so you can then make things to scale if you have things cut off you'll be able to place them right

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>>29678795
Don't be afraid to push your values a little further, mate.

>>29678051
>>29678955
This. Perspective is pretty straightforward. The hard part is internalizing it and building up your spatial sense so you can draw scenes in more dynamic angles using minimal construction.

>>29678051
This is a pretty good video for 1 and 2 pt perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=felys-u4nfk
An this is one for 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcldMKlzjg

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>>29679317
I'm trying. Still shit. But I'll try again and again.

What's the secrets of the rigg brush?

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I'd appreciate if anyone could redline this. Wings are weird and a lot about this just feels off to me, especially the legs and jaw.

>>29679987
Rigg brush?

>>29680024
I like it and I wouldn't change anything. Unless you completely want to change style on wings.

>>29680024
on it

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>>29679987
Thou shalt give love to the eyes

>>29680092
Maybe this time you can actually critique and redline instead of going all John Madden on the thing.

>>29680441
This person's crit was pretty solid. Don't expect a solid block-in in a paintover. They're here to help, not paint your picture for you because you didn't bother to learn basic fundamentals.

>>29680441
I'm on a mouse FTTB and if I can help it I'll try and make my point without minute linework