Drawfag Improvement Thread

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>TFW still can't draw

>>29707806
>tfw still practice reluctantly because not even sure if anything good will ever come out of it

>>29708039
>TFW too embarrassed to practice

>>29708067
>tfw you walk away from practicing then comeback only to want to walk away again

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>>29708039
If I can make somthing that resembles a poner, I guarantee you can too.

>>29708278
An attempt was made, more then what most could say.

>>29708278
There's a long way from something that resembles a pony and something that resembles your hopes and ambitions.

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Daily reminder that we're all gonna make it.

>>29707806
>>29708039
>>29708271

Just keep on practicing, and try to focus on simply enjoying drawing now rather than just worrying about when you'll finally be "good". You'll get there eventually.

>>29708067

You don't have to show your practice to anyone if you don't want to, I'm pretty sure no one actually does that. I cringe at my own shit way more often than not, and I still keep going because I know I just gotta keep it up if I wanna git gud.
Pic related, I was trying to draw gopnik pone for the OC challenge. I trashed the entire thing five times before I even managed to get a Pose that I was even remotely happy with, and the anatomy is still beyond fucked. I think I spent a good two hours just trying to get it to look somewhat right and it was pretty damn frustrating, but I'm happy that I kept going instead of just quitting.

On a sidenote, could anyone give me some pointers on how to fix this?

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>>29708322
You are right.
But you gotta start somewhere.

>>29708375
Of course, no way around it. Can't make it work without actually putting in work.

>>29708370
Чoткий кoнь, бpaтyхa
>enjoying drawing
That's the hardest part.

>>29689468
I just noticed that you, Saby, made an paintover demo for my work - thanks! And I'm sorry I didn't said that sooner - I'm not on /mlp/ everyday. I hope that you don't feel like your work isn't appreciated - it is. I'm really glad that you also pointed out tips about cell shading - it will be very useful for my next drawing.

Thanks again.

>>29708417
>That's the hardest part.

Well yeah, it's not like you can somehow simply bring yourself to enjoy something. For me it often takes a bit of time just doodling until I start getting into it. Don't force yourself if you really don't feel like it though, that'll only needlessly frustrate you. Don't make it a chore.

>>29708905
Its different for some. Although sometimes you must make it a chore just to get good. Its not like your always going to be at peak condition. Although really to a degree you are right, but its kind of like a mental game to want to draw and stay that way progressing as learning can be daunting at times. It should probably be looked at as a pursuit as you can only get into theories so much if your not practicing them. Breaks and reminders of ambitions are a thing too.

>>29709088
Oh, definitely, discipline plays a very big part in progress. What I meant was that you shouldn't make drawing /feel/ like a chore, like something you have to get out of the way before being able to do anything else. That kind of thinking can take a lot of the fun and enjoyment out of it for many people. I agree with you though, well said.

>>29709088
>>29709366
Sometimes you have to spend time grinding it out. I don't have much free time (certainly not 8 hours a day) so there are days that it does seem like a chore. There's also lack of direction in learning and not knowing when you should move to something more challenging. That can be discouraging for some people, I know a guy who outright dropped drawing because of that. I'm personally not bothered by it, but then again I'm still learning basic stuff.

>>29709442

I feel the problem stems from being an adult. Once we become an adult we tend to think that we should be able to pick up on things easier. While that's true to some degree I feel that a lot don't realize just how much work has to be put in to "git gud" at drawing. Most just see it as either this childish thing someone does or they see it as something only "talented" people do.Talent can only take a person so far. They're going to need to grind the mileage and study at some point if they want to take their art to the next level. Once a person realizes *that* they either quit or step it up.

The type of person that draws all the time and tries to improve themselves are going to over-take the person who has a more innate ability to illustrate but they don't draw as much. I always imagine a person who is just slightly below my skill level. And if I stop drawing for a day that person will over-take me. That's my motivation.

I dont have a lot of time either. I barely have 2-3 hours at most a day to crank out drawings or study. But I think about almost constantly, even at work when I have moments to myself. I can observe the world around me without a pencil in my hand. Sometimes I carry a small, 3x5 notebook with me to jot ideas down. Drawing is about observation and we can observe ANY time.

>That can be discouraging for some people

The prospect of "you're going to have to draw a lot in order to get good" is pretty enticing, actually. I look forward to a life-time of this. Honestly if you ask yourself, "Do I see myself doing this 5 or 10 years from now?" And the answer is "yes," then you're all set, honestly. There is no doubt you'll do amazing things if you have that cemented into your brain already.

>>29709589
>Once a person realizes *that* they either quit or step it up.
My plans to stagnate until i can get to retirement ^:3

>>29709589
I wish I had motivation like that. I guess they don't say that you have to be passionate to succeed for nothing.
>Do I see myself doing this 5 or 10 years from now
I can't plan for that long, 10 years ago I didn't see myself watching MLP and trying to draw yet here I am.

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>>29707711
Checked.
Also this is the second time someone posted something I drew aside from my shitty edits! I'm getting horsefamous!

>>29706240
Thank you very much! I will do that! Seems like a perfect way to go harder into light and shading!

<- Posting it as pic because this might benefit a lot of people.

Whats this weeks challenge?

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post shitty advice that always grinds your gears
>"draw a bean"

Redliner when?

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>>29702704
- head is oversized for the body
- front legs undersized for the body (mitigated but not fully fixed in redline)
- hind legs oversized for the body
- forelock off model: think of FS's forelock as a mohawk that's suuuuuper long and curves off over one side
- if you want the hair covering part of the face, be bold and make it clear, an overly timid overlay will just look like awkward facial structure and/or a mistake
- a slightly V-like pose is more natural for the forelegs in this position
- the thigh and gaskin are notably flatter in shape when seen from the front or back, if this is forgotten the leg will look misaligned in many poses
- overlap and enhanced curves make the tail look far less flat and veil-like

just destroy me
>>29711430

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http://90sigma.deviantart.com/art/Twilight-Sparkle-Unicorn-302446406

I haven't been to /mlp/ in a while but I can't stop coming back mostly because of cute ponies and horse puss. I'm no artist, but I'm pretty good at editing to the point where I used to animate still porn pictures. I also used to make poorly animated gondolas from scratch when that meme was hot. The point is that I want to start drawing but I'm not sure if I should learn it "classically" by drawing everything from scratch on paper or continue cheating using selections and brushes on gimp. I also don't know which drawpads are good or how to hook them up so I can start working with them.

tl,dr I'm a complete newfag that only knows how to edit

>>29711910
>or continue cheating using selections and brushes on gimp
it doesn't matter what tools you use if you can't draw. whether its with paper or a tablet

there are no shortcuts to drawing. start drawin circles m8

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>>29709821
>But if you take as much time as you need to get this part done right without jumping forward too hastily.
Whoops forgot to type out the rest of that sentence. Was pretty tired.
But if you take as much time as you need to get this part done right without jumping forward too hastily, the rest of the painting will come out more smoothly.

Adding onto that, aside from still lives you can also do studies of low poly 3-D prints.

>>29710429
>>29711967
>start drawin circles
This gets me everytime yet i know it must be done.

>>29711910
Id reccommend partnering up with a couple of artist and just become an animator but, it is best if you can draw.

>>29711967
>>29712000
Eh, I guess I have to take the long way. I'll start drawing on paper for now and start drawing models when I figure out the drawpad

>>29712087
There is no short way or long way to gittin gud, mate. There's only the longer way, which is the roundabout path people take when they think there is a short way. Stick to your guns and you'll be making those gains in no time.

It's absolutely infuriating knowing the theory behind drawing and then failing to draw a proper whatever. After I finish anything I find it to be a crude, uncanny valley, facsimile of whatever it is I'm practicing to the point where I feel awful for even trying.

I'm still trying but god dam do I hate everything I draw.

>>29712319
Just keep working it until it looks good. If you don't know why it looks like shit, erase it and do it again until it does if you're doing it traditionally, or if you're doing it digitally make an "insecurity" layer and reblock the shape in to fix it.

Look at Ruan Jia Or John Singer Sargent for inspiration on that. Digitally, Ruan Jia will keep repainting over his pictures if it doesn't feel right. Even if it takes 500+ hours. When they did X-ray scans of JSS paintings they found 8 layers of shit paintings under one of his better pieces.

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( HEY GUYS! I'm sorry I'm so late to the party, I was traveling the last two days and only just got online. )

SO! The contest is now closed! Thank you everyone who participated! I'm putting the polls together now and once they're up, you can vote until Saturday at some time I'll tell you about later. Great job everyone! I am so happy to see all the creativity in here! You all worked hard and you should feel good about yourselves. (Pic related was the OC I made, Blue Velvet)

At the moment I STILL NEED ** BAPHOMETPOSTER ** to repost your 2 pieces with a tripcode or you cannot win a prize if you win!

To everyone else, I figured we'd do the emotion chart if that's fine with everyone? I'll post rules and such for that in a second.
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>>29707597
Hey I like seeing you playing with different media. Good job there. Also is this for the contest? If so can you post a tripcode with it so I have that for the poll? If so I need to know like, right now, otherwise I can't put yours in.
>>29711292
Thank you for helping the thread, Saby!
>>29712319
You just have to be patient. You think the better artists didn't spend years perfecting what they're doing? People spend their whole lives gittin gud and might never enjoy their own art. You just have to realize that you're going to go as fast as you'll go and that's fine. Don't compare yourself to others when it comes to that stuff. Just be open to help and learning the fundamentals.

>>29712727

** HERE IS THE POLL: http://www.strawpoll.me/12575712 **

Vote for whomever you want. You can vote for one, you can vote for two, or you can vote for them all, I don't give a fuck! The prize will be revealed after voting ends. You all did great! Good luck everyone!

>>29712851
Shit, the links don't work. I'm going to put them all up in an Imgur gallery for you guys, sorry!

>>29712851
Did you forget to put your OC?

>>29712888
No, I'm not competing because I don't want to win if I did. The contest is about you guys, not me.

>>29712894
Alright.

>inb4 we all win
Im ok with this

>>29712917
You can't all win! I only have ONE grand prize, hahaha

>>29712923
I feel the leasson of kindness and friendship is plenty enough but Knowledge works too. Calling it, Its a book

>>29712851
OKAY So here's the Imgur gallery of everyone's work so it's easier to pick on the polls!

http://imgur.com/a/nOf1L

>>29712968
English book hopefully

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Okay guys, I'm fucking exhausted, but here's Challenge #5 (The contest wasn't a challenge, technically). It's the expressions challenge. Feel free to use your new OCs, any of the past palettes, only do the ones you want, or whatever!

CHALLENGE #5: Drawing Expressions!
So for this challenge, I found 3 different levels for the challenge!
EASY: (pic related) Fill out 8 expressions!
MEDIUM: (Will be the next post) Fill out 25 expressions!
HARD: (will be posted after medium) Fill out 60 EXPRESSIONS. This is easily the toughest one, but I know there are some of you that can do it!

I'll be joining you guys on this later! Have fun! Goodnight thread~

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>>29713026
Medium mode!

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Drawing a gryphon paladin for someone's pone related tabletop.

>>29712978
Yo, senpai. want to hang? Last person told me, "Yes. From the ceiling fan."

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>>29713026
And lastly, but not leastly, HARD MODE. Fuck I ain't even doin THIS one, so good luck if you do!

>>29713034
Who wouldn't want to hang with you? :( If I weren't going to bed right now I would

>>29713041
>Sleeping
That's not how you get gud :^)
Alright, good night buddy.

>>29713034

I'm in the hangout now but I can' talk because its 4am but i'll be up for a few hours.

>>29713034
Sure as long as you supply the rope, I'm not going out in debt.

>>29713035
Mother of land horse apples do i feel tempted to do this. But atm I shoooould be going to sleep for work in the morning.. but I never do no matter what i do

>>29713055
Everytime i post i see you around

>>29713058
DEW IT
>>29713067
He's a stalker, no joke
>>29713048
Don't worry, I don't normally sleep very much 8)

>>29713067

I'm always lurking. :)

>>29713073
I'm going to go for it, I suppose. Looks like i know what I'm going to be doing in my free time for the next couple of days.

>>29713080
Same ^:3

https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/event/horsefuckers

Get in here queers.

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>>29713109
>you have to log in to join!
Google is for homosexuals.

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welp i done fugged up my drawing comuputer by idiotically forcing an update i had no busniess dealing with.

>>29713316
I'm not sure about Sai, but in Photoshop you can set it to save the file every X amount of minutes. It's saved me a ton of times. That or get used to ctrl-S ing constantly

>>29713332
Oh I use Krita and have it set to save every two minutes but the problem its I broke the whole os.. I'm going to need to recover it

>>29711292
thanks! I knew I fucked up. I still have to learn a lot.

Would people want to learn how to get photoshop free? (not the trial, the full on) It's really easy and it's industry standard.
>>29713382
Oh, shit! Well I hope you can recover everything else? :( I hope your computer feels better soon.
>>29713539
>>29711292
Well keep it up then, anon! Seby, good work!

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>>29713034
Wip.

>>29713288
Just make a fake account it takes like a minute at the most.

>>29713613
>Would people want to learn how to get photoshop free?
I really doubt that anyone here needs an explanation how torrents work.

I am piling up things I want to color. But when I start to color them I will neglect sketching practice. What should I do!

>>29713663
and if they do, they shouldn't be on this site to begin with.

>>29713671
Why are you implying that's a bad thing?
Every book about fast learning will tell you to practice one subskill at a time. It's a good thing that you're dividing sketching practice and rendering practice like that.

Similarly you wouldn't learn how to play a song by trying to play the whole thing at once - it's easier to learn one part at a time and then learn to play those parts together.

>What should I do!
Stop looking for excuses and go back to work.

>>29713663
>>29713672
I don't think that's fair; there are people stuck using shit like Krita or Gimp I assume because they don't know how to get something better. If they ask I'll provide then but I wont' bother with a tutorial.
>>29713671
You're not a professional, so this is all on your own time. I had the same problem some years back. I focused on coloring other people's lineart because mine sucked so much. Really all you have to do is man up and sketch. Practice straight, long, smooth, confident lines and you only get that through practice, my friend. Try gesture drawing, or watch people and draw them as they go by somewhere public. Or just draw a regular ol' pony and do your best to ink it. We will always help you if you need it and if you end up doing ^this feel free to post it :)

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>>29712851
Out of the gate we have
1st: 7. Grabby !r4qybDHxEg : http://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1489426769837.png
2nd: 13. SketchAnon: http://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1489997164753.png
3rd: 3. Slamjam !zkraGArAs : http://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1489876089077.jpg

But still plenty of time to vote!

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>>29713899
We're still in hangouts if you want to join, senpai.

>>29713901
Yeah I might. I only got 2 hours of sleep though 8')

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>>29713883
>I assume because they don't know how to get something better
Or maybe they have higher morals than you and refuse to break law by pirating their software.

>>29713912
Sure dude, except I bought it.

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>>29713883
So what should I do... I really want to color this one. But it will take me a lot of time! I still haven't even touched this shaman like pony I did like 3 weeks ago. And I have 4 more things I want to color. And yet still I come up with new ideas... Ghaaaa!!!

>>29714050
As a wise man once said, "¿Por qué no los dos?" How about you create a reward system? For every hour you practice sketching and creating beautiful nice lines you can have 20 minutes to color the lines? Would that work for you?

>>29714069
*color the lines that aren't yours I mean

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I drew a ton this morning so may as well post.

>>29714050

If you dont feel like coloring then don't. Or just throw on some flat coloring and call it a day. There's no need to stress about it. Some days I sketch for hours and sometimes i'll spend a day painting and coloring.

>>29713915
Oh. In that case I apologize.

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>>29712727
whoopsie ok reposts incoming

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>>29714252

>>29714069
I've never done something like this so might as well try. But I don't think it will work for me. If I start coloring I will do it intil I finish. I just cannot stop, do other thing and come back. That is why I sketch all the time and not color. I don't want to stop sketching but I want to start coloring... I have to find some balance.
>>29714091
I always feel like coloring. This is what I enjoy the most. When the flat undefined thing become alive. Even if I am bad at this I really really enjoy it.

>>29714050
>>29714449
Just do it, fag. Skills feed into each other too.

>>29711563
That's a very cute poner. I like that little outline you added as well. Her neck looks a bit big from the back imo.

>>29714252
Thanks, buddy! Great jobs, by the way!
>>29714091
Also great job, love that Discord. You gotta work on them ears though, buddy buddy
>>29714449
>29714069(You)
Don't say you can't until you try! If you say you can't then you won't and I believe you can do it because I was in the same position and I did it and look at me! Now I'm drawing ponies, hosting contests/challenges, and helping others learn to draw! What I'm saying is that you should spend like 3 hours in a row, for example, sketching, learning anatomy, and working on your linework. Then, the next day or whatever you can spend an hour/hour and a half coloring other line art. Please at least give it a try. Give it a try for me :< I, and my helpers, work so hard to help you guys~ [/guilt trip] Oh, also, if you're interested a year or two ago I made some coloring pages. I'll link them here:
Pinkie Party: https://derpibooru.org/971174
Scootaloo Snowboarding: https://derpibooru.org/978421

>>29712851
** Here is the poll for anyone that hasn't seen it yet! Vote for whomever you want! One, or two, or a few! Goodluck! **

>>29711765
did you intend to post that in the drawthread?

>>29715462
Ok ok... You got me there with this speech... I'll try. So today counts as sketching. So tommorow I will color something. I must choose what. Everything is kinda new. I've never practiced smoke or clouds too much so this Luna picture will be a real challange. I count on you - all of you because I think I'll be asking for advice a lot!

>>29715568
No he keeps posting them in here but doesn't care for /ic/, so I don't fucking know.
>>29715583
You go for it! I'd love to help when you're ready for it!

>>29715699
>he keeps posting them in here but doesn't care for /ic/
That's just sad.

>>29715722
Yeah well that's why I ignore him; I'm here to help people that want help and will apply themselves, not look at drawings. That's what the Drawthread is for. This is the thread for gittin gud and if ya ain't doin that then you can GEDDDOOUUUT

>>29715182
sweet, thanks

>>29714091
do another discord, i want to see it

how do i stop being mediocre

>>29716540
Practice and tutorials.

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>>29716540
Download secret render brush. No, really. Redliner. Thanks for this brush. Fuck. You're the greatest thing to every grace this thread, fag.

>>29710372
My name is commander shepard and this is my favorite pony ref sheet on the intetnet

>>29713901
I underestimated the inhabitants of this thread

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>>29715995

I will tomorrow. Right now I'm exhausted from drawing 12 hours straight.

>>29717260

Noice familia.

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this is a good time to say thanks to all the participants of the thread

also the hard version of the challege is really hardcore
time to bite more than I can chew as usual

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>>29717734

>>29713613
Good news was able to get things fixed not entirely sure how but computer seems better now!

>>29716540
Practice, read tutorials, practice, cry, practice, suffer and practice,

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http://kooner-cz.deviantart.com/art/Daisy-On-the-ground-247601476

>>29717375
I like that you're playing with perspective. I think you should do Challenge #5 though~
>>29716677
A-ah you're welcome senpai. That's probably the best compliment I've ever gotten on here
>>29716815
We range from terrible to good to amazing and what brings us together is the need for speed- no wait I mean gittin gud, yeah
>>29717260
I love this
>>29718128
Hurray! Now back that shit up!
>>29718346
Please study anatomy better. You're only practicing to get worse if you don't.

>>29712851
** The links in the poll no longer work, so I'm reminding you guys to use this Imgur gallery so you can make sure you pick the ones you want most **

Poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12575712
Entry Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/nOf1L

When two characters overlap, should you draw the character in the back first?

>>29719765
the order doesn't matter, just make sure you draw both figures fully to avoid things like missing limbs

depending on the composition it can be more beneficial to draw in certain parts of each pony

>>29719765
Well you should set up your perspective first. What I would do is sketch them both first (obviously), draw the one in the back, then draw the one in the front. Make sure they're on different layers of course (I know I shouldn't have to say this but sometimes people just forget, you know?) and make sure the pony in the back isn't being completely blocked

>>29719803
Sorry, I probably should've mentioned this is with pencil and paper so I can't really use layers at that point.

>>29719809
Yes you probably should have, ha. Then I'd still draw the back pony first and like saby said, I'd also draw both figures fully but very lightly, especially the back one, until your sketch is done; then you can decide which parts/lines you need

>>29719820
>>29719802
Alright, thank you both.

bampity bamp

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Anyone wanna tell me what's wrong with my hair/headwrap? I feel like it should be in front of the ear but it looks weird. The bangs should probably go under the wrap but this looks cuter.

>>29720939
Methinks the main thing is how in the jaw/chin area the wrap doesn't bend/bunch up forwards to give way to the throat. Result: wrap makes head look like it's severed and floating.

Other thing:I like the somewhat asymmetric tilt on the wrap's position around the head (looks more secure) but if the side she's touching is the one that's hurting, then the wrap should be passing the other way around, i.e. be more covering on the hurting side. Also I see no bulge from ice bag.

Knot ears could easily be somewhat larger for clearer readability and enhanced QTQ.

Not related to the wrap itself, but the head is ever so slightly too far back on the neck and the thigh/gaskin units have a notable size difference that's not explained by angle difference.

>>29720984
Well the thing about the pain is that I drew this because I'm getting root canals today and my mouth hurts in more than one place. I just thought it was cute to put the hand there. I don't know what you mean by knot ears. I agree about her head being too far back. It was actually a bit larger too and the thumbnail looks like I need to make it smol again. I also don't know what a gaskin is, but the right leg is going to the side so I gave it a little foreshortenin'. I did actually make the left thigh bigger before but if it needs more that's fine.

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>>29720939
>>29720984
visuals to illustrate what I mean

gaskin is the part of the hind leg between the thigh and the cannon, ending proximally in the stifle (analogous to human knee) and distally in the hock (~ heel),

>>29721026
(also twisted head wrap for superior grip and hold altho that's just me being super anal)

>>29721034
>>29721026
I know this sounds stupid but the pain isn't on that side, it's one of my front teeth and one of my bottom left so that's why it's on that side. I like how you fixed the arm and chest, but I like my floppy leg because she's supposed to be leaning a bit, but I'll still try it. I'm not bothering with the hair probably

>>29721352
>which side
sure, I drew that not knowing of the details

>floppy leg
sure, just be careful with the outline shape and the lines that cross inside of the silhouette, to avoid the megaham effect and hint at the gaskin being present

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>>29721450
I ended up doing a cross between yours and mine. The only thing I didn't fix was moving the fabric back because I didn't want to fuck it up but also I feel like fucking shit from my teeth.

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>>29713026
quick attempt

>>29721580
wooo that was fast
extra challenge if you dare: do another character with their own unique facial flair

>>29721580
Those came out p cute. Good jorb

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>>29721587
mustaches are surprisingly expressive

>>29721602
thank, i try

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>>29715995
>>29717375

Some sketches. I started stylizing after drawing from the show for a bit.

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>>29721580

>>29722047
nice senpai
what is easier to draw, discord or ponies?

boop

>>29722637

I feel as if I can take more liberties with a character like Discord. I found there isn't a lot of wiggle-room when drawing ponies since they're so caricatured to begin with. You have to stick with very rigid proportions or the pony won't look "right."

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>>29723100

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hurm
well it's a start

>>29723928
Looks more like anger or determination. Maybe change those eyebrows?

>>29724329
yeah I should, I had this vision (let's just say the angry look is 100% intentional) but it really needs some polish to show the fear factor

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Just a random sketch page from a while back. Any tips on shading or making the head look more 3D?

>>29721742
Haha, love that.
>>29722047
There's something off about his head in most of these but it's hard to pick out. The one at the top in the middle without antlers is a bit wall-eyed and his muzzle makes him look a bit like Homer Simpson. The best one is the one that's talking to Twilight (?) but for some reason his eyes are looking way off into nowhere instead of at her.
>>29723343
>I feel as if I can take more liberties with a character like Discord.
I'm sorry but I disagree; reread above. And I believe there's a lot of wiggle room with ponies. As long as you know their anatomy hands down you can fuck around with it and make your own style.
>>29723928
I think you, and everyone else who plans on doing these challenges, should do them all on the same page; otherwise it's going to get really spammy in here.
>>29724329
I also agree with this
>>29724408
It's going to need a bit more than polish to get it to look more like fear :B

>>29724447
IT, darling, you don't mind if I rip and tear?

>>29724450
you overestimate my capacity to draw digitally, and underestimate my polishing chops

>>29724470
Go ahead senpai.

>>29724497
Then prove me wrong?
>>29724503
I already have, but you know that

>>29724497
Honestly I don't think you're really helping anyone in this thread that much. And re: that first statement, we know.

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i was gonna color this but ehhhh

>>29724538
gesundheit?

>>29724824
qt

jesus christ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d09JA-RxFI4

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>>29724447
I don't think you're quite ready for a style, but I did try to keep some things (like the ears for example)

>>29725097
Hey, thanks. I really appreciate it! I think I was always making my heads too round.

>>29725135
Yeah pony heads are more oval-y but you're still improving so keep it up

>>29725149
Thanks!

>>29723928

That is not fear. Like everyone said it reads as "anger" or "determination." The thing about expressions is that if it looks "off" people are going to call it right away. Expressions have to be clear or it won't work.

>>29724408

> it really needs some polish to show the fear factor

What polish exactly? One can convey expression with very little. There's hardly any "polish" involved. It either reads or it doesn't. If you're fucking it up then you're doing so at a fundamental level.

https://youtu.be/S94VIlQyFWo

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>>29725494

Forgot my image

>>29724450

>I'm sorry but I disagree; reread above.

I'm sorry senpai. :( I guess i'm not very gud yet.

I will work on it.

>>29725528
I know you will. You've only gotten better since you started drawing a couple years ago and you take and apply advice and critique very well.

>>29723928
I think I sorta get what you were going for. Like a "scared by a threat but trying not to seem vulnerable/still ready to fight" kind of thing? Or am I completely misinterpreting it?

>>29725562
Not seby, but that's a shit excuse for why he didn't draw the expression correctly.

>>29725568
I'm not excusing anything, I'm just saying I think I see what the intention was, not that it was executed well.

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>>29725756
Hey I redlined your last one and I would very much appreciate if you looked at it, read it, and applied it.

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Advice is always appreciated.

Bedtime bump

>>29725768
>Never say "it's my style to break bones"
But what if I want to be more like Fosgitt?

>>29726375
Too bad! Hahaha

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>>29719027
** REMINDING YOU TO VOTE ON THE POLLS BY SATURDAY AT 11:59PM PST, THIS SATURDAY! **

** HERE IS THE POLL: http://www.strawpoll.me/12575712 (embed) **
** HERE'S THE IMGUR GALLERY OF THE ENTRIES (because the strawpoll links are dead now): http://imgur.com/a/nOf1L **

Also if you're interested, Challenge #5 is up!
Easy mode: >>29713026
Medium mode: >>29713030
Hard mode: >>29713035

featuring my contest OC whom I guess is probably also a presenter of shit

>>29726527
velvet is top cute, nice design

>>29726527
what the fuck is this autism

>>29724511
will do

>>29725494
>not fear
yeah that's why I said "it's a start" and "needs polish" (meant to say "needs work" but ESL happened)

>>29725562
that is precisely what I was going for

>>29725568
wow I'm so sorry for trying to convey my character's personality and posting a WIP

>>29726527
i hope this will help me with my lifeless eyes

>>29726571
Thank you
>>29727145
Do you mean she has lifeless eyes and you want to be able to draw them lifeless? Or that your eyes are lifeless and you need help? Because I can always help.
>>29726754
Yeah, take that bull by the horns!

>>29727157
>>29725882
Is this serviceable?

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>>29727157
My eyes were described as "zimbabwe tier lifeless"
along with other flaws

tried to work on a few expressions but I can't get even the ears right

time to study

>>29727688
Hmmm, well I'm a bit busy today but maybe I can help you with that later tonight?
>>29727683
Yes I can help you but like I said above, it wouldn't be until later tonight.

>>29726527
>Also if you're interested, Challenge #5 is up!
How much time do we have to finish it?
I think that some of suggested expressions in the hard mode are just silly or too similar to each other (isn't "chibi" a style rather than expression? And is there any difference between "annoyed" and "irritated"?) - would it be OK if I replaced those with my own expressions?

>>29725882
no it isn't, because zimbabwe only shuns advice. literally fuck off

>>29727911
I'd say "irritated" implies having been exposed to annoyance for a longer period of time. I'd also correlate being irritated with more anger/agression than being annoyed.

>>29728067
Cool, thanks for pointing that out. I guess I'll have to find a better dictionary than google translate.

>>29727911
Usually until the thread dies, but this one might take a while. Also the challenges don't "end", per se, people just do them and they're done. Chibi is a style, correct. I did not create these myself. There is a difference between irritated and annoyed; my best advice for doing these is to get a mirror and make the faces and you'll see the small differences.
>>29728099
I think the best thing is a mirror and a dictionary, yeah

>>29727853
sounds good to me.

>>29728099
try dictionary.com

>>29728134
> I did not create these myself.
Oh. I was fooled by your signature on that chart...

>>29728154
Thanks!

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>>29713035
>no "smug" expression
>mfw

>>29728403
adding this to the challenge at the bottom

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>>29713035
what is seme?

>>29729158
Dom/top when fug, opposite of uke.

bump for gainz

the more I study the more I realize how awesome some artists are

senpai is best senpai

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>>29725494
>>29726754
You're right about the polish. But the aim was to convey character, which is had to do on a facial expression only, chart and not a body expression/gesture chart.

I can see what you’re aiming at. I'm also a person who looks angry when I'm scared. And only look "determined" when I'm actually pissed. It's a defense mechanism that works for me growing up in third world Goblin town, though if you read the rest of my body posture, it'd probably be obvious that I'm actually scared and would rather get out of a high stress situation than anything else. You don't read facial expressions on Animals themselves. For horses, a pissed horse will have a lowered bowed neck, swishing tail, and pinned ears when they're angry. Pinned ears, and curled tail on a scared animal is more of a doggo thing because they need to make themselves look smaller to more dominant pack mates, still commonly used because it's something relatable to us.

Tldr: It’s not wrong but because we can’t see the rest of the gesture, it doesn’t read as scared. But I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

>>29730973
Art senpais are the best. Got some solid crit from mine yesterday. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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>>29725768
Her leg is wonky because I'm really bad at eyeballing how long a leg is when it's bent. The mane and tail are the way they were in the reference; I think the mane is supposed to be slightly to the side rather than directly under her.

>>29731857
Don't make excuses, make improvements. I know it sounds cheesy, but just take the redline in stride and apply it to what you do next. You can definitely do it, you did that frame by frame animation. You just need to apply what we're saying.

>>29731870
It's not supposed to be an excuse; the squashed mane looks really weird.

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>>29708370
The hind legs sure do look weird. Then again ponies can't squat. Man, it amazes me that the FoE game developers figured out how to make a pony "crouch."

>>29727688
Post art please.

>>29732012
They did? I didn't even know there was a game in development, you got a screenshot?

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What should I change before I color this? (I'm not good at humans sorry)

>>29728216
I put my signature over it because it had a bunch of other text that was unnecessary. I didn't have time to go through them because I had to drive 7 hours the next day.
>>29728403
>>29728535
Exchange an expression you don't like for the smug one
>>29729158
I don't know. It's some yaoi thing I think. Feel free to rewrite some expressions you don't like
>>29730475
Yes! Better artists really inspire me to get on gittin gud and drawing more

I hope you guys know I really do my best to try and help all of you improve. I want you all to improve and be happy with your art. I also try my best to say things as nicely as I can because I care about you guys and I don't want you to think you suck because most of you don't, but even if you do you can ALWAYS get better if you apply yourself, okay?
>>29731857
You should have fixed the eyes, the tail, the arms, and the cutie mark. Your line weight is all over the place.
>bad at eyeballing
Then don't eyeball it. You do not use your joints properly like, ever. You need to focus on quality more than quantity because right now you're pumping out the ponies, yeah, but not a single one has been correct. I'm sorry, I just have to be honest with you.
>bad reference
Never. Ever. Blame a reference for your problems. If you have a bad reference it's up to you to get a better one OR fix the problems in the reference.
>>29731870
This
>>29731890
It might not have intended to be excuses but they all were.
>>29731904
... I cannot help you anymore. Despite us trying to help you improve, you just don't seem to be taking any of it in. Like I'm really sorry to have to say that... again... but you are not using proper anatomy at all and you don't seem to be trying to either.
>>29732373
Well anon's right arm is amputated for some reason... I think what you really need to do is to do a sketch before you draw it because this doesn't seem to be sketched out. If there is a sketch I would like to see it.

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>>29732388
I feel kind of embarrassed, 'cause I keep doing that scratchy lines thing and other stuff I shouldn't be doing with my sketches
>anon's right arm is amputated for some reason.
It was supposed to be his arm through her hair, but as you can see I have no idea how to portray that correctly.

>>29732399
It's the way you drew the hair in the inked version. If you don't mind, I'm going to redline it a bit.

>>29732411
Go ahead, I can really use the help.

>>29732414
Oh, who are you drawing btw. There's more anatomy stuff than I thought :B

>>29732434
Anon and Sunset Shimmer

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>>29732399
>>29732411
> If you don't mind, I'm going to redline it a bit.
>a bit
Fuck, I'm sorry I always end up redrawin everything but after going over it with just regular anatomy lines I realized it needed more help. So first, we're gonna just ruck doing her hair like that because it's really confusing and you can still make it look like her without the three layers of hair. If you need me to explain anything else, just ask :B

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>>29732494
I'm sorry I really don't wanna seem like I'm making excuses but I was basing the back of her hair off of this (sorry it's kinda small)
I really appreciate your help

>>29732508
I know what you based it on because I googled "sunset shimmer from behind" and I saw that hair and I thought it sucked because it was too much for your pic. I really think you should trust me on that. I still put the lines in her hair and I think it's still obviously her.

>>29732514
Okay. So I should go back and adjust the original sketch itself and re-ink it, right?

Also I apologize if I'm coming off a bit rude tonight, I just had a really shitty day and I'm doing my best not taking it out on you guys

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>>29732519
Yes. But you need to look at what I fixed in the redlines. Like, where their arms/hands SHOULD go, where her hair should go, that their torsos should be a bit longer, that you should use spiral foreshortening (pic related), and that your lines should be, like, more detailed. You detailed anon's shirt but hat's about it. They really need detail on their pants/hair/etc, you know?

>>29732532
Alright, thank you
I wish I didn't feel so intimidated by these concepts, like detailing, anatomy, and foreshortening
Like, the only reason I was able to detail Anon's shirt more was because I had a reference handy because for some reason I can't understand how this stuff works

>>29732560
Honestly you probably just need to learn human anatomy first. It's harder than pony anatomy, of course, but if you ever want to draw proper people you will need to do so. There's tutorials in the OP here, but I've never used them myself, so I don't know how good they are:
>Human -
https://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/training-tutorials
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/human-anatomy-fundamentals-how-to-draw-hands--cms-21440

>>29732560
You're trying to do too much at the same time if you feel confused.

All of the concepts you listed are extremely sophisticated studies of their own.

It's a good idea to study each aspect individually before throwing everything together (e.g. draw a non-anatomical object orthographically and play around with lots of details to find out what you can and like to do with detailling. then sketch many characters with anatomy in ortho. Then combine the two and make detailed characters. Then try out incorporating perspective and find out how details and anatomy behave.)

It's not important to do the "correct" thing, but it's important to find out what you like and what works for you.

>>29732600
Basically brush up on fundamentals. This is p good: http://conceptartempire.com/what-are-the-fundamentals/

>>29732589
>>29732600
>>29732605
Thank you. I'll study up after I finish this (it was a request and I really don't want to keep them waiting even longer than I already have)

>>29732613
Oh, haha okay, well good luck!

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I remade my influence map. Which artists do you guys waifu?

>>29732660
Needs more pony influences.

>>29733125
Fug.

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>>29732388
>... I cannot help you anymore. Despite us trying to help you improve, you just don't seem to be taking any of it in. Like I'm really sorry to have to say that... again... but you are not using proper anatomy at all and you don't seem to be trying to either.
Not him but could someone please take one second to write down what parts are so wrong? To me it looks okay aside from the neck.
But I'm shit so I probably can't even see all the flaws.

>>29732660
Everyone writing books/guides/tutorials and making vids about drawing.
Also you guys since you help me getting better.

Ohh and I found a book about this guy:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.forward.com/images/cropped/napoleon-bonaparte-081215-1439401767.jpg
He got some awesome paintings!

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>>29734461
Are you fucking retarded? Or just pretending?

If you can't see what a deformed abomination >>29731904 is, then you're blind.
You're literally too stupid to post link to a book from amazon.
And if you really think that Napoleon Bonaparte was a great painter, then I feel sad for your parents for having to deal with you.

Do everyone a favor and drink some bleach.

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>>29734568

>>29734652
>Ohh I found a book about this guy: (insert picture of Bonaparte here).
Your post was misleading and it's your fault.

>>29734701
No, you're just a retard. The fact he was talking about the paintings is more than enough indication that he's referring to the artist that made that, not the subject.

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>>29734701
that may be
in my defense I have to say that if I posted this people should assume I meant the painter Leonardo da Vinci and not the person displayed
and maybe I am blind because the head and legs look right to me regarding this >>29731904
something seems off but I can't put my finger on it
and maybe I am retarded
But why do you sperg out so hard?
I just asked a question and replied to a post and you act like someone fucked your ass and stole your phone.

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>>29734740
If I were talking about drawing and posted a drawing of Vilppu, you would assume that I'm talking about Vilppu rather than author of that drawing.

>>29732624
So uh, redliner, y-you gonna redline me er?

>>29734994
bequiet thy bosom

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>>29734769
>>29731904
>head and legs look right
You can't be serious.

I'm by no means good at anatomy but here I go

>jaw way too long and far forward, looks like an underbite
>by extension, the entire snout is too far forward
>eyes too far apart, in the reference the head is also tilted so they shouldn't bee on the same level
>neck looks too long
>bent leg is too large, "wrist" too far out
>other leg symmetrical
>hind legs drawn from side view instead of 3/4
>the back one looks like it doesn't have a thigh, looks more like a front leg
>the other one's hoof is too wide
>the entire body is too long, looks like a side view
That's only a few things I spotted. Seriously, look at it compared to the original vector. If you still don't see any of these mistakes I recommend visiting an optician.

I luv drawing poni things.

>>29734461
>>29734461
>Everyone writing books/guides/tutorials and making vids about drawing. Also you guys since you help me getting better.

It's nice to look up to someone who teaches well, but stylistic-wise it's good to look and follow other artists because your tastes are always going to be different. You'll get better faster if you study fundamentals on your own time and don't try to mute your influences just because someone you look up to does something a little better. It’s worth spending a day or two of research doing it too. It’s also a good way to avoid this whole phenomena of people just copying without understanding what the top 10 or 20 artists are doing on the website they lurk. Tumblr and Artstation are good examples of this. And why most people hated CGhub despite the quality of art there being good.

Tldr: don’t study where someone is, study how they got there to get quicker gains.

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>>29735079
Ohh
oooh
ooooooooooooohhh

>>29735111
checked
furthermore this is kinda what I mean
I don't have any specific artist in mind right now because I try to get the basics right
drew a couple of still lives today for a better understanding of light and shadow (eggs and papertowels under a lamp)
so the ones that influence me the most are the people who teach that kind of stuff
if that makes sense

>>29735055
wat?

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>>29735280

>>29735321
eh ok.

Post your wips, lads. I'm curious whatcha working on.

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>>29735776
These challenges:
>>29709821
>>29713035

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>>29735776
There's not much to criticize yet, but sure, why not.

>>29735852
thick thighs

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>>29735993

>>29732660
>Which artists do you guys waifu?
y-you
>>29734461
>Not him but could someone please take one second to write down what parts are so wrong?
I did another full redline for him and he doesn't appear to be applying himself. We've all given him advice, but at some point you have to tell yourself you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think. I've only had to do this to one other person and I hate it but sometimes I have to give up.
>>29734994
Can you point it out to me? I've been driving all day and I wasn't able to get to it. I'm in a motel at the moment because it's dark and raining so fuck that.
>>29735824
I would love to see anyone's WIP on those challenges. I'm slowly doing the medium one

>>29736579
>I would love to see anyone's WIP on those challenges.
Will post tomorrow.
> I've only had to do this to one other person and I hate it but sometimes I have to give up.
No one blames you.
For a beginner it feels like someone flaming someone for no apaarent reason.

also we all love you

>>29725882
>>29736579

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<--- Here's what I had done so far like a year ago
>>29736634
>>29736639
I wuv you too. Otherwise I wouldn't be spending my life trying to help you guys.
>>29725882
What parts did you want help with? All the parts?

>>29719027
** ONE LAST REMINDER IN CASE YOU DIDN'T VOTE! **
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>>29736714
eh sure, I mean if thats ok.

>>29736837
Alrighty. You should really draw these on larger canvases though

>>29736866
what would you recommend?

>>29736837
Also it's a male right?

>>29736872
female

>>29736875
Okay that's fine too.
>>29736870
800x800 at first but you should get used to doing larger ones than that as well. When they're larger you can fuck up the line work more and when you shrink it, it's much less noticeable.

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>>29725882
>>29736875
>>29736870
Okay I really tried to just redline it but there was nothing worth saving. You really need to go back to normal poses and use joints and shit to prepare real anatomy. This is a tough pose even for me, so practice easier stuff. I can understand why you'd want to do cool poses, but maybe next time use a reference at the very least?

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http://aqua-pony.deviantart.com/art/FlutterShy-vector-424843941

>>29737484
>FS's head is floating
>Her arm goes outside the leg??
>joints not even close to where they should be
>face is okay but that's about it
You're not even trying anymore.

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>>29737516

>>29737541
You didn't exactly draw it to reference "perfection"; and again, for the 100th time, poor reference is not an excuse for poor drawing.

>>29737551
I'm starting to think you just label anything that doesn't match your style as "poor", because half of these references are traced right from the show.

>>29737569
I'm not talking about "my style." I'm talking about his failure of show style he's trying to do. He's a lot better than he was when he started, no doubt, but he doesn't seem to grasp some of the anatomy stuff as well as he should by now but hey, maybe he's just plateaued

>>29737569
samefag go

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>>29713035
>HARD MODE
It has come to my attention that hard mode is kind of fucked up. If it's not too difficult for you, please use the attached one instead. I do apologize for not fixing it sooner but I've been on spring break.

>>29737078
I see, needs more dynamic.

Thanks redliner, I'll try to use more reference next time.

>>29737857
You are very welcome. More dynamic is what I meant to have said

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>>29737758
Oh fucking hell, I didn't realize that row on the bottom was unnecessary. Okay use THIS one instead. Sorry again.

bwump

>writing in the new expressions rather than typing them
kek

bump before sleep
>>29738546
lol who gives a shit?

>>29738716
No one :)

>>29738716
Everyone :[

>>29738716
Someone :#

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Might line and color this later, but for now have the sketches.

>>29740067
That's actually a really interesting style to use for these. It's more like, I guess, western style cartoons (if that makes sense). Good job!

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>>29740067
Confused looks like someone kicked him in the dick.
Fear looks more like awkward or embarrassed maybe?
Your silly is very similar to your triumph, which is silly.

>>29740247
Thank you! I'm definitely influenced heavily by newspaper comics, and that tends to bleed over into my style.

>>29740292
I can see what you mean there. For silly, I was trying to do it in a way that looked somewhat mischievous but I think I dropped the ball. I'll definitely come back to it later, I think.

Great. Luna's coat and Twilight's mane are almost the same hue. And I made them overlap each other... The gods of shading give me patience and strenght!

>>29740625
>Luna's coat and Twilight's mane are almost the same hue. And I made them overlap each other
Sounds like you should pray to the gods of composition and thumbnails rather to the gods of shading.

>>29740808
Oh yeah. You are right. Because you know. On sketch things look different.

>>29740896
What I'm saying is that you should have make another rough sketch, but in color. Or at least in greyscale, to make sure that most interesting parts of your picture have the most contrasting values. Such sketch can be very small and still be useful; that's why they're call 'thumbnails'.

I'm just suggesting you a way to make sure that you won't make the same error in the future.

And that's why 'on sketch things look different' isn't a valid excuse.

>>29740625
If you show us, I can help you

>>29740625
>>29741403
Follow up: how far do you plan to take this drawing? Just sketch? flat color? full shading?

>>29741434
With this one I want to go full by myself and see how it will turn out. It is an nsfw picture so well... It lowers the standards but still I want to know how well I can perfom without help.
I hope you understand.

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>>29741490
>It is an nsfw picture so well... It lowers the standards

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>>29741490
>nsfw lowers the standards

>>29741490

wat

If anything, NSFW stuff I put more work into because badly done NSFW is way more cringey to me then badly done SFW

>>29741704
>>29741798
I meant that if you put vagina on a picture people are less critical about an art itself.

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>>29741824

>>29741824
idiots might get distracted but shit is still shit

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Drawing a dogpone, not sure what colors to use for her

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>>29742233

Okay, I went with those, Also page 10 bump

>>29741490
If you change your mind I can still help you, even with NSFW
>>29741798
"THEY DON'T KEEP ME HERE CUZ I'M GORGEOUS, THEY KEEP ME HERE CUZ I'M SMART"

>>29742233
>>29742932
By dogpone do you mean a pony that acts and is treated like a dog?

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>>29743507
Didn't know RD was a goose

bed bump

>>29743273

Well yes.

But shes also a officer, so at least ask before you pet her.

>>29743507
It would be the best one you did so far if not that fucking neck. What happened there!

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>>29744796

>>29744997
I'm selling out and drawing porn :^)

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>tfw had a oc in mind for a fucking year but never actually worked on him because drawing sucks

>>29745078
>look at horse skull
>draw horse skull
>draw horse face
>draw pony face
>???
>profit!

>>29745078
Drawing, when all your drawings look like shit, isn't fun at all.

>>29745422
>>29745078
If you've never drawn before of course it's gonna look like shit. That's how skills work. To get better you have to draw more and study fundamentals. If you don't want to learn to draw or ask for help then this is not the thread for you.

>>29745422
I think it's fun to look for your own mistakes. Recognising them consistantly is important, as well as learning how to fix them. I would feel odd if one day I wouldn't find anything wrong with my drawings.

>>29745067
Is it me, or does character on top look kinda androgynous?
I honestly don't know what is under that censorship: is it a feminine dick of this wide hipped trap? is it pussy of flat-chested tomboy? is this character futa?
Unless it was on purpose (I didn't read any greens from that general), then maybe you could change something.

>>29745446
Yes! This is the attitude I'm talkin about! If I were you, or anyone else in the thread, I'd also add - to be inspired by better artists for you to git gudder
>>29745800
I'm fairly sure the one on top is a male. If anything, the one on the bottom is a bit androgynous.

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>>29745878
>I'm fairly sure the one on top is a male.
>thicc, childbearing hips
>plump buttocks
>slim waist, thinner than it's shoulders
>male
I don't see it. Give that creature some breasts, and it will have more feminine body shape than Venus.

I assumed that character on the bottom is male, because it's waist, bust and hips have the same width. Why do you think it's androgynous?

>>29745975
Eh, whatever. I guess the top could be female. I thought the bottom one was a female because it was smaller and its face looked feminine. We'll have to wait for R to wake up and tell us

>>29746028
>its face looked feminine
Now that you mentioned it I can see that.

It can suck if you didnt start drawing when you didnt care about the drawing

>>29746472
It can ALWAYS suck, Anon. You're not helping anyone with your 'wisdom'.
If you want to bump thread without saying 'bump', then just comment someones picture.

>>29746574
Sorry not normally the bump guy. But will shut up.

>>29746750
>>29746472
You don't have to shut up, just knock it off with the weird philosophy shit
>>29746574
Or post something from the pony tutorial gallery.

>>29746906
But thats the same as telling me to shut up.
Sorry

>>29746919
It's not the same; I'm just asking you to say shit that has to do with the thread or MLP in general rather than weird insights

>>29746750
>>29746919
Lol, are you a Canadian?
/mlp/ is literally made out of shitposts. Don't worry so much about posting stupid shit here.

>>29742932
Your Anon have really weird proportions. And I'm not a fan of this really fat lineart, but I guess it's a matter of style. Fang on that pony looks really out of place - it would look better if it was moved to the front of his muzzle. Maybe make other teeth sharper as well?

>>29747236
>but I guess it's a matter of style
Worst excuse ever (even though you're making it for them)
>teeth
yeah I mean ponies don't eat meat so they wouldn't have ANY sharp teeth