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So? Is it good?
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le nope
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I grew up playing videogames, so I was actually really surprised when this whole story is told in journal entries and audio-logs, which is the lazy videogame story telling method.
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So? Why don't you read it and find out?

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is there a site like goodreads that doesn't look like complete shit and isn't controlled by jews?
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librarything.com?
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librarything
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>>7516049
nm you have to pay for it apparently and that's bullshit

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Hey /lit, I apologize in advance for the meme-ing, but how does The Recognitions weigh up to Gravity's Rainbow in terms of difficulty?
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Somewhat related:

Is Infinite Jest easy compared to Ulysses or Gravity's Rainbow?
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>>7516007
yes
very much
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>>7516007
Yeah, IJ was a breeze compared to either of those. The first 200 pages or so might take you a little longer, but it's a pretty fun, fast-paced read overall.

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Is reading classic scores /lit/? Anyone else here like to read along in the score to their favorite Baroque gargantua or Wagner score to look for architectonic details that only a deep reading will reveal? In short, does anyone here read scores and libretti like books?

Pic related. Notice the dotted rhythm in the bass, like a heartbeat. It's a lament, of course, from the intro to the St. Matthew Passion. But notice that the most stunning lament of the piece, Erbarme Dich, has a perfectly metronomic, clockwork bass instead. Why does lament with the most vivid pictures of heaving sobs and tears have a heartless bass? The dotted rhythms return later, in other, less arresting laments. Maybe the lifeless, machinelike bass of Erbarme Dich suggests to you the paralyzing, stone-like shock of the first stages of grief?

Also, check out the first act of Don Giovanni. Seriously, fucking Mozart knew what he was doing. Right after the Commendatore dies, the lament is a minor version of Donna Annas protests when Don Gon was chasing her. In fact, notice that she's musically taking the lead their, and he follows (he's chasing her)- everywhere else in the opera he usually takes musical command. But here, he's off his game.
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>>7515987
Your passion about reading sheet music is highly contagious. It makes me a bit jelous for not being able to see it the way you do
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This is a PoMo board, motherfucker!
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The bass reminds me, not of a heart, but of something else throbbing, behind me

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My current goal is to understand Kierkegaard, Sartre, Camus, and Nietzsche. However, I want to understand where they are coming from. What Greeks should I read? What other works between them and the 19th century do they reference most? I don't want to have to spend a decade building up to this but what five to ten books would give me the best shot of getting something meaningful out of the Existentialist bunch?
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>>7515971
For Kierkegaard, Plato and Ockham will be helpful.
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Read Plato. Almost all of him, in fact. Read him, then Aristotle's Metaphysics, then Anselms Proslogion plus the sections in Aquinas' Summa Theologica on time, nature, and mans essence in general.

Then read Descartes Meditiations, Leibniz's Monadology, Hume's Treatise (just the first book will do), Kant's CPR, and then Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit.

Then, while you read Kierkegaard, be sure to always read the Uplifting Discourse meant to be paired with with whatever work you're reading.

He intended these discourses to be part of an ongoing dialectic between him and his pseudonymous personae. Speaking of dialectic, if you read NOTHING else of the above, read Plato.
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Kierkegaard - Muh Faith helps with my confidence problems.
Sartre - Existence precedes Essence, that is, we can alter ourselves to great extents.
Camus - Artists are allowed to engage the despair and even encourage it if done positively, for the pursuit of audience pussy.
Nietzsche - Sure embrace the fact of nihilism, but don't be a slave to it, the glory of being a great man is all there is, promote every man becoming great and you are alright by me.

They reference nothing other than the decline of christian morality. You really want to understand existentialism just become homeless and become hated by everyone.

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What does Nietzsche mean when he says 'deep'? He'll say something like:
>"Every deep thinker is more afraid of being understood than of being misunderstood."
but then there's:
>"Whoever knows he is deep, strives for clarity; whoever would like to appear deep to the crowd, strives for obscurity. For the crowd considers anything deep if only it cannot see to the bottom: the crowd is so timid and afraid of going into the water.”

What does he mean by this?
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>>7515950
He means people who think in a very deliberate, careful, or extensive manner.

e.g., Socrates or Plato could be considered "deep thinkers" due to the extensive critical thought and analysis of their own ideas and sounding them out through extended dialog.

>"Every deep thinker is more afraid of being understood than of being misunderstood."
Not sure, but if I had to guess I'd say it has to do with the conclusions of that sort of thought aren't always palatable to others.

The second one seems pretty obvious on its own. I'm not sure how it ties together with the first one though, sorry. Maybe someone else will.
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All his quotes "go with" other quotes of his. That way you have to read him more.

Your first goes with "That which is explained ceases to concern us" which is really a condensing of what Schope says in more words somewhere.

The second one goes with his stuff about women, "Women are not deep, they are not even shallow." He is just referring to the psychological depth of knowledge/anguish/self-awareness and nuance of behaviour/will more prevalent in men and great men. He also goes on to say that he himself doesn't really wish to be understood presumably because of the quote I wrote above, i.e. he wants to be read.
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an idea should be easy to absorb but difficult to assimilate. so if the writer cant come up with something original, he will choose obfuscation.

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Does anyone have the Russian Literature Download from the wiki? The anonfiles link is dead.

Also, Russian literature tends to be quite dark, but you rarely hear people complain about "forced drama" or "edginess". What determines if 'darker' themes are well established in a book?
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>>7515919
Another bump
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>>7515919
Where's Pushkin? He influenced all of those writers.
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Russian literature as well as Russia itself are truly disgusting!

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What's the woman version of this?
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>>7515762
My diary desu
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Good question
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Or really anything with a female villain protagonist.

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write something in the style of mira gonzalez
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Ok.

There you go.

Am I authentic yet?
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it's another Mira thread
in 20-15

eating pizza in bed
wishing
I
was
dead

should i shave my legs today or wear long socks?
i want somebody to hate fuck me and call me
their
little
taco slut
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>>7515659
is tao becoming too good to remain a meme or something?

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Why is existentialism so gloomy? I'm taking a course on the subject and all the notable existentialists seemed not to live a "happy" life, including the father of existentialism. He even made his Christian life seem depressing even though it was his "passion". Camus seemed to be the most "human" and even he despised being labeled an existentialist.
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happiness is for normies
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>>7515603
Only modes of thinking that can give you real happiness are strict practice of a real religion, esoteric practice of a real religion, and pure egoism. Christianity is a bastardized, diluted religion so Kierkegaard never had a chance.
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>>7515625
>Christianity is a bastardized, diluted religion

Aloha snackbar, my Muslim friend.

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Hello would you like to help me with something big and hard? I'm creating a universe and I can't do it alone. There will be plenty of spelling errors and really shit grammar! If you would like to help me just let me know.
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Sure, dude. Whaddyou got so far?
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>>7515660
A three sentence manifesto about the futility of reality television.
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>>7515665
And you want to construct a universe around that?

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If I cherish you because I hold you dear, because in you my heart finds nourishment, my need satisfaction, then it is not done for the sake of a higher essence, whose hallowed body you are, not on account of my beholding in you a ghost, i.e. an appearing spirit, but from egoistic pleasure; you yourself with your essence are valuable to me, for your essence is not a higher one, is not higher and more general than you, is unique like you yourself, because it is you.
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>>7515409
would be less convoluted to just say 'you make me happy'
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ok
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>>7515409
when you see it...

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Anybody else love Kafka on the Shore?
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yuh-huh-i do

do you like othello
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>not even the best Murakami

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How well conceived is the Barnes and Noble Classics edition of the Iliad? What kind of reader is it tailored for?
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Start with the Greeks
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>>7514997
I already have.
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I did
thebean plays
apology
illiad

it this dumb?

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Is it correct to start a statement with "when"?

Example:
When I arrived at the house he didn't even say hello to me.
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>>7514889
>When I arrived at the house, he didn't even say hello to me.
that'll be 5 btc thank you in advance
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No, it should be "What I arrived at the house he didn't even say hello to me." Since house is an object, you use "what" instead of when. If you had used a time like this, "When I arrived at 10:30," then it would be appropriate, but with your sentence you must use "what."
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>>7514915
I know I shouldn't take the bait, but....

His sentence is fine. 'When' is an adverb adjunted to the clause 'I arrived at the house'. It's NOT modifying 'house'.

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