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Hopefully bait does have potential.

>>7725413
>Any idea why it was used in the context of being weak?
Look up the symptoms mate.

>>7725413

Well, OP, you get a sexually-transmitted disease by being weak morally. This might not really be on the radar today, but sexual purity, discipline, etc. used to valued very highly and impurity was seen as a failure of character.

>>7725198
I'm here, what is it you would like fro me?

>In putting together this edition, I was mostly looking to help people whose knowledge of Italian is bad, but who still want to read Dante in full. I made the annotations simple and numerous because the special situation of those people (that is, their unfamiliarity with Dante's medieval mindset and classical references) requires extra help to make the story understandable. When in doubt about how much help to give, I have tended to err on the side of caution and give too much, rather than risk giving too little - like the adage of the gate guard of purgatory, who preferred to give wayward souls more of a chance than they deserved rather than risk giving them too little.

Aside from the subordinate clauses, the confusing part is probably just linking up verbs with their subjects/objects properly, made more difficult by the fact that the verbs are used slightly archaically. It's slightly older and rarer English, especially for what is generally taught at a second language level (ESL) these days.

Probably the worst bit is the second sentence. "To whome the whole medieval outlook ... unfamiliar" is a relative clause, referring of the "some [people]" whose "requirements" the author is trying to "serve." So just bracket off that whole clause as a bonus adjective, and skip to the main verb that goes with the subject "the requirements of some" to get the real meaning of the sentence: "may."
>The requirements of some [people] ... may excuse the number of annotations.

Here "excuse" might be slightly weird to you, because it's being used impersonally, which is SLIGHTLY rarer and more formal these days. It's like saying
>The traffic jam on the highway may excuse my lateness today.
instead of
>My excuse for being late is that I was in a traffic jam.

>>7725244
>is a relative clause, referring of the
should be
>is a relative clause, referring to the

Ironic

>>7725244
ty very much sir

That picture is edgy af.

As to your question; of course 1984 is going to make you sad, I get sad when I waste time on shitty books as well.

Just read IJ and kill yourself.

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>>7725187
>That pic.

Have you read The Principles of Newspeak? The way it's worded makes it seem like the Party fell.

Read The Stranger, I guess.

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Just read Heaney's translation of Beowulf if you want an entry level fantasy. Its short, action filled, and easy to comprehend whilst the Witcher novels are overly long and plagued with somewhat boring political intrigue.

>>7725137
Witcher books are only good if you are slav, other translations kinda ruins it.

>>7725167

How so?

I never read anything by a profeffor.

Currently reading this and it's not as bad as /lit/ paints (or as good as the rest of the world paints, for that matter).

Good gimmick well made

Shirley Jackson ain't bad.

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r/nosleep

>>7724301
fuck off /mu/

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I wonder where this is going to lead up to.

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>>7724312

generic predictable trash for nonintellectuals

>>7724196
really the McDonalds of contemporary writers

The fact that Kubrick wasted his time on this piece of trash is a little sad. At least he made something half decent, but not even Kubrick come away unscathed from it.

Use your memory bro

Just read it. You'll end up reading it again.

>>7723190
I'm halfway through and this is the experience I am having. Read a section, then read a synopsis of it. You start to get used to it but it is clear that I will want to let it sit and read again in a few months.

>>7723172
it's all downhill from here OP

I really don't understand her book.
Its whole message is that stereotyping and discrimination is wrong, but then she goes and stereotypes a poor white man as an abusive drunkard.

>>7723172
I've never read her books, what exactly were wrong with them, other than you don't agree?

>>7722646
(From what I've read)
Sound and the fury > Collected stories > Absalom, absalom > Aild > Go down, Moses > Light in August

As for a starting point, aild seems best to get one properly acquainted to Faulkner's style.

>>7722646
>>7722646
Start with The Bear, The Old People, and A Rose for Emily. The first two are companion stories (long stories) that are printed together in Go Down Moses, although iirc they were originally published separately. They are incredible.

A Rose for Emily is a great short story that covers a lot of Faulkner's common themes, it's the story most people name as the quintessential southern gothic story, and it contains a lot of Faulkner's modernist stylistic touches without being difficult to penetrate (collective first person plural narrator, long sentences, non-chronological)

If you like those, I would say to next read Light in August. It is a bit longer than his other novels, but a bit more gentle on the reader in terms of vocabulary and fucklong complicated sentences.

After that, read Sound and the Fury. Two recommended ways to read it:
1. Easy mode -- by the Cliff's Notes and read it after part one so you will know what the fuck just happened.
2. Hard mode -- Read the book all the way through. Don't worry that part one makes no sense. After you finish the book, immediately read part one again.

Absalom, Absalom!
I think this is his densest, but it's rewarding and enjoyable if you like this type of book. I just remember there is one chapter that ends with a closing parenthesis, and I was like, wait, where the fuck is the opening parenthesis? Mfw half the fucking chapter is in parentheses. Mfw it actually makes sense though.

>>7722677
Thanks for the info man, I'll probably take your advice and start with AILD.

>>7722772
Thanks for posting, this is very helpful.
I've read the Bear and a Rose for Emily. I thought the Bear was phenomenal. I didn't have trouble with the language in either of those stories, how difficult are the rest of his works by comparison?

There are none
An author is either well known and worth reading or unknown and not worth reading. Possible exception is new authors.
Op, dont fall into the trap of reading nobodys book

>>7721745
Lovecraft didn't see fame until he was dead. I'm sure there are plenty of hidden treasures out there.

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Shameful self bump. Take Sherman Alexie for example, his shit is top tier but it doesn't get as much attention because no one cares about Indians.

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>>7720397

You misspelled his name but good shout.

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nope! not even a little

I read a book once and it was terrible

Sometimes I can't sleep at night because I am excited about reading the next day.