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Mtfg: """male""" to cute girl gen

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we be ok

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
>>7635334
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Rare angie
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>>7636678
>we be ok
:)
pat
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>>7636675
I liked it more when you were calling me a slutty junkie. It's sexier.
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this may be a stretch but... anyone here in the Los Angeles area? anyone have experience with the LA LGBT Center? Im considering going there for therapy/hrt treatment and im reading mixed reviews of the place online.
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>>7636684
From revisions
Jaw/chin/fat graft
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>>7636689
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>>7636683
I don't have to do anything

>>7636695
Yep.
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>>7636691
you have no proof that i'm the same person as that guy in my previous posts

i'm just exploring whether insecurity about your weight is a potential way to make you feel bad about yourself
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You can do it Anna!
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>>7636687
Chasers aren't able to fully appreciate what it's like to be trans or the feelings that are associated with trans-specific problems, but they do their best to care for us and make us happy :3
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>>7636702
No
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>>7636699
now you have to >>7636702
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Tfw no bf to tease and call me a fatty piggy
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>>7636709
No i won't force her
sorry for being so pushy anna
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>>7636710
piggu piggu oink oink :3
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>>7636692
I think kayla went there? mby melly too she helped kayla get hrt
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>>7636706
>they do their best to care for us and make us happy :3

>Asks you if he can suck your dick
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>>7636711
'S oke
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>>7636707
Do it for her~
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>>7636702
That image has triggered my PTSD
>>7636707
>How's uni
Basically I told them I bought a helium tank and they called the hospital
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>>7636721
No
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>>7636718
There's always going to be a small minority of bad eggs in the egg basket, but you shouldn't let that put you off.
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>>7636701
Probably not, given I'm literally sitting at my target weight and can control it if I want to.

Also
>That guy
A-are you a boy?
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>>7636725
Oh wow, you still didn't come out?
That's impressive. Did they arrange your debt stuff at least?
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>>7636729
>small minority of bad eggs
Even if you think there are good chasers out there, THOSE would be the minority. The majority of chasers are bad eggs.
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>>7636727
:(
Do it for yourself?
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>tfw death STILL hasn't arrived
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>>7636729
>"I-I'm not like other chasers! Honest!
Fuck off.
>>7636732
No I've decided to take the chicken option and wait for my doctor to out me via medical letter.
They are in the process of arranging it
Are/were you a student as well?
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hahaha the stress from the past week is really taking its toll on my digestion
i love being a tranny
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>>7636737
No
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who here wants to turn me into a girl
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>>7636747
bumping for answer
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>>7636730
>I'm literally sitting at my target weight
>accidentally gained a pound
yeah, you're definitely sitting alright

>A-are you a boy?
i'm just an anonposter, it's not like there's any reason for boys to come here
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>>7636741
I'm a student. Currently starting the process of sliding down into failure due to severe mental issues.
I really hope you get your debt cancelled, that'd be worth it! Chicken option sounds very comfy I wish I could do that with my parents.
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>>7636747
I'll make you a woman, bb.
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I moap posted her butt on /tg/ she really is a bimbo
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Which one are you /mtfg/
>tfw cooking but no cute bf to eat my food
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>>7636754
She posted it here too though
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>>7636741
>"I-I'm not like other chasers! Honest!
It's the opposite actually, silly. I'm saying that most chasers are nice people, and implicitly including myself in that category. :3
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>>7636754
oh my how did my post get so fucked up

should be no I
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>>7636738
I think customs seized mine.
Sucked b/c the E-check took forever.
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>>7636752
your chicken option is to leave your hrt out in the open so they see it and confront you
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>>7636710
kek you look like a man. Are you even on HRT?
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>>7636744
Do it because it's the right thing to do?
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can anyone help me be happi pls
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>>7636747
you are a girly beep
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nini
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>>7636755
right!!!
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>>7636766
No
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>>7636773
sleep well friend :3
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>>7636750
I went on vacation and ate out like literally every day.
Are you a boy with a crushu~

>>7636755
Right
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>>7636767
be happi, pizza soon!
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Does dysphoria eventually go away? Does the crippling depression and suicidal thoughts eventually go away? Like the girls who have "made it" - pass everywhere, got their bodies as "female" as they wanted, relationship, etc. etc., are they actually cured? Do they get to feel happy?
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>>7636773
nini
snugg
>>7636755
probably right, but i don't have any experience yet
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>>7636776
Don't not not not do it not because of some other reason?
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>>7636782
just get over it lol
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>>7636767
>>7636781
Awwww

K I S S I N G
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Is it bad that I want my really stronk co-worker to slam me against the bathroom wall and let him have his way with me.... Choke me a little with his big scarred hands...... Feel their roughness all over my soft body.
I have a problem.
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>>7636782
short answer no, not completely.
long answer it does get better, a lot better.
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>>7636785
I'll just not not not do it
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>>7636781
but it's so loooong from now!!

>>7636787
shhhhh
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I want to kill cis females. They don't deserve what they have. I hate them so much for it.
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I was actually productive for a few hours straight,
After I couldnt even open a file or look at even the most basic statistics yesterday, this is definitely an improvement. too bad that I dont have time for that and need to hit perfection levels tonight

>>7636782
no, I am still really dysphoric
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>>7636795
Too skinny.
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>>7636713
Am I fat? I keep getting this red line.

>>7636741
You idiot fucking come clean holy shit you have no idea how lucky you are and cant fucking see it in front of you this fucking cowardness is what will hold you back
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>>7636782
The crippling and suicidal part goes away but you're probably going to have some long term body image issues and insecurity.
That said, it does get way way better, you'll probably be as happy as the next cis person.
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>>7636792
But you promised you would do it!
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>>7636799
YEAH!! GROSS!! I WOULDNT EVEN WANNA BE A CIS GIRL!!!
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>>7636793
not too long though! ^^
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>>7636782
I pass in every real-life situation.

I'm still highly dysphoric and am probably going to kill myself. But I haven't had any surgeries yet, so there may still be a chance.
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>>7636795
>I want to hug cis females.
fixed 4 u
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>>7636804
>The crippling and suicidal part goes away

when does this happen
asking for a friend
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>>7636806
Yes but I am a weak loser
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>>7636799
Cis females are unappreciative and constantly whine about how bad they have. Fuck cis females. They have the greatest gift that I dream I could have. I wish they could experience the pain I feel.
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>>7636816
not true btw
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>>7636755
probably in the middle. if i do too much for someone without getting much in return i feel used.
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>>7636752
Aww sorry to hear that. What do you study?
>>7636764
Yeah this basically lol. Do this Anna.
>>7636789
I got this way with the guy at my local timber yard today. Big lumberjack type. I've known him since I was a kid, he's always been so nice to me.
>>7636795
>>7636817
>tfw reading about cis supermodel who overdosed on cocaine at age 20
WHY DO THEY THROW IT AWAY?????
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>>7636779
>and ate out like literally every day.
huh, i had no idea you went to visit sophie

i'm not a boy and i don't have a crush - boys obviously don't come to dumb tranny general, that would be really weird
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>>7636812
>I pass in every situation

Even during a tsa pat down?
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>>7636809
No, there are many cis girls who I'd want to be, I'm just saying that particular one is too skinny.
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>vic 2
>be germany
>annex austria diplomatically through events
>+20 infamy
>now have 40 infamy
D:
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>>7636817
t. mad hon
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>>7636816
No you're not.
And you will feel soo much better when you do it!
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>>7636817
>they constantly whine about how bad they look

To get attention
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>>7636781
Pizza makes me wanna repress
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>>7636825
Please tuck when you know you're about to get scanned, jesus.
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>>7636797
Phienchen didn't you say you don't even go in girlmode
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>>7636817
At least cis females get treated bad for shit they cant control, nobody forces you to transition.

And if being trans is so bad, why not be cis? People will love you.
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>>7636792
Just not not not not do it and get it over with
Or at least plan for a suitable time
And in a moment of courage tell your parents that you want to talk to them about something important
So you cant back out anymore
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>>7636829
EDGY
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>>7636842
but i made Germany a liberal democracy
im even allied to britain
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>>7636819
>>7636831
Yes I am

>>7636823
I'm studying international law, would like to become a diplomat in the future
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>>7636817
>constantly whine about how bad they have
you mean like you? there are cis girls with shitty bodies, and you're holding them up to model standards
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>>7636840
>being a cis MAN

Haha no, I'm better off as a weird Patti Smith-looking girl
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>>7636823
Like, I've seen this guy hurl tractor tyres across the shop with one hand, without looking up.
&
Tear down engines & rebuild them in a day.
This is purely a lewd interest.
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>>7636839
Ive been fulltime for over 4 years anon...
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>>7636790
>>7636804
How many years does it take to get there
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>>7636830
No shit
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>>7636840
>At least cis females get treated bad for shit they cant control, nobody forces you to transition.

LMAO. CIS FEMALES ARE CODDLED. They are guided through life step by step. If they fail its never their fault. Cis women are never at fault. They are always protected.

Fuck cis women.

they deserve death
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>>7636841
I only get courageous when I am not near my parents
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>>7636765
Thats the point

>>7636823
Wow you cant see the irony in doing drugs yourself when you too can do so much????????????? But piss and moan about it???
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>>7636845
*hugg*
I know how hard this is…
Is there anything I can do make it easier for you?
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>>7636804
What about self doubt and perma loathing your body and yourself and feeling like you don't deserve love.

Um, asking for a friend as well.
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>>7636859
No there isn't
Except killing me I guess, that'd be easy
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>>7636851
O-oh
This morning or yesterday you were arguing with Moap about something and that's what I had understood from your argument... Sorry
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>tfw ur a cute girl but you can lift more than all your male roommates and beat them all in drunken arm wrestling

really gets my noggin joggin
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>>7636854
>>7636817
Aggression towards females is a male trait.
Tru trans, feel sympathetic jealousy but only desire goodwill to all cis females.

Agps feel aggressive masculine envy
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>>7636845
>pins me down despite being on cypro
>weak loser
i mean

that's just silly!
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>>7636867
Why would you want to build an s2000.
They're just chubby miatas
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>>7636835
:c
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>>7636874
Maybe not physically that weak but definitely mentally.
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>>7636856
Why haven't you done it when frangi was there?

>>7636863
No I won't do that, but you can get 1 (one) free* hugg when told your parents that you're trans.
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>>7636870
you are a fucking idiot cis females are absolute snakes to eachother

just because i hate cis females and want them to die doesnt mean i am not friends with cis females.

you are the idiot with rose tinted glasses. spend more than a week around females and you wouldn't be saying that
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>>7636870
>implying cis women don't hate prettier women's guts
Idolizing women that way is actually agp
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>>7636817
>whine about how bad they have

every female does this
especially mtfs
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>>7636845
Nice. I hope you can make it to graduation!
>>7636850
Wait what that guy?
>>7636858
AM I A MODEL?????? NO.
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>>7636824
Maybe they come to bully their trip crush that they resent for making them feel tingling in their loins for a male.

>>7636852
I'm sitting at about 6.5 years and definitely getting there slowly
I even come across as pretty normal

>>7636814
For me it sort of happened after I left the little bubble of the academic world and realized most adults are fucking miserable. The thing is most just accept the shit hand they got dealt and make the most of it.

>>7636862
I'm still working on that, I'm kind of a mess
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>>7636879
that didn't seem like it was the case either desu
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>>7636850
That sounds very homo-gay of you.

>>7636854
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
These boards might be a better place for your mysogynist fantasies.
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>>7636881
Because my parents weren't home lol

>>7636887
I hope so too but it's looking less and less likely
I'd be happy to survive that long though
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>>7636875
muh mid engine
muh balance
muh 9000 rpm
muh strong 2L engine
muh cute small car
muh handling dynamics

I already built a turbo miata, theres a 2006 GTO for sale for like ridiculously cheap tho so I might just buy that and enjoy the massive murica engine
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Woo, apparently I'm depressed, that may explain why I mostly feel nothing.
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>>7636895
and you call yourself a woman huh
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>>7636887
Yeah. He's filthy & unshaven rn.
That pic is candid garbage.
He looks uggo in it
I've seen him all cleaned up outside of work before.
Das when I felt feels.
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I wish i helped anna call her parents or somethinf when i was there

Or i stayed until the evening to help her
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>>7636894
Oh that sucks, maybe she can come again tomorrow?
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>>7636870
I agree with the overall message of this I guess but it should be

>Aggression towards females is a misogynist trait.
>decent people, feel sympathetic jealousy but only desire goodwill to all cis females.

>misogynists feel aggressive envy
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>>7636889
>Being a mess
Yeah, I'm sort of there as well.
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>>7636887
No you are better than that and look into industrial design, draw machines for a living and sell them while expanding your genuine interest in physics/engineering. GO BACK TO YOUR UNI AND COME CLEAN FUCK KNOWS I WOULD SHIT ID BE IN GIRL MODE EVERY DAY AND FOCUSED ON MY WORK

>>7636899
Boo
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>>7636882
I do. I just don't talk to them
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>>7636906
Misogyny is a male trait
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>>7636899
girls can't like cars?
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>>7636891
>expressing negative feelings around others
I don't do this

>>7636902
You couldn't have helped but I appreciate the sentiment.

>>7636903
I don't want to tell my parents though
But frangi cuddles are always nice I guess.
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>>7636903
(>tfw im free tomorrow (lol))
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>>7636912
I dont see an all female grand tour/top gear show
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>>7636910
so is having a dick
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>>7636889
>I even come across as pretty normal
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>>7636901
>Tfw daddy issues triggered
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>>7636910
generally yes but there are still many female identified misogynists
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>>7636918
>Update
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>>7636915
I will
O B L I T E R A T E
fear
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>>7636928
I laughed
Please do
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>>7636917
it's true that it's male dominated but I'm pretty certain that's primarily because of socialization, I don't decide what things I like and dont like based off the gender balance of the people who like those things, that's just silly
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>>7636895
But.
......
>Muh track cars.
I have this crazy dream to build an AWD crossover & make it a mid-engine rally car.
Sideways boxer engine in the middle w/ a front & rear diff.
....But I really love i6's
I was bred on huge murrica machines.
I'm an off-road junkie at heart.
There's even a YouTube vid of me racing an ehtanol sand dragster.
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>>7636931
yesss
i knew that would make you laugh :D

i have O B L I T E R A T E D not laughing
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>>7636915
>>7636916
How about frangi visits you and then she tells your parents that you're trans, while holding your hand?
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>>7636922
>TFW no daddy issues
>TFW men my age are boring pussies.
>TFW older weathered combat vets are my fetish
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In public with bf and i feel a bit panicky because girl mode anxiety af
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>>7636937
I LAUGHED AGAIN REEE
STOP IT I WANNA FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF AND LIFE
<3

>>7636940
But that's dumb and cowardly :(
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>>7636945
Mh I guess you just have to do it yourself then.
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>>7636944
Shut the fuck up Kayla.
Nobody cares about you.
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>>7636947
yes but I can't
I'll just never tell them :D
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>>7636932
How were you raised? Also if its all in socialization would your trans ness be because of society or does it come from within?
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>>7636949
Well you could do that too, but wouldn't that be cowardly too?
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>>7636921
Irl, yes.
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>>7636963
I guess, yes.
But then again I am at least a coward by myself :)
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I was thinking about that post kayla made a while ago where she said she is more attracted to transgirls than men or cis females that was funny
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I'm going to shoot up every chasers I meet. Getting real tired of your shit.
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>>7636948
t. Mad hon
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>>7636967
You could write them a letter, that would be less cowardly
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>larp as repressor on several trans community because I like the concept of being a closeted transgirl so I could get support and feel special at th comforting idea of "being yourself" because I lack an identity
>start to get upset at my own fake distress


Wew. Time to take a break
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>>7636979
But then they'll still want to talk afterwards which is still too scary
I'll just have to quit
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>>7636958
definitely not saying it's all due to socialization, but I think it plays a major part. I was raised in a secular, liberal household by parents with STEM careers, who always taught me to pursue the things I'm interested in regardless of outside forces.
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>>7636942
What you wrote is literally porn for made for me.
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>>7636968
Tfw would be kindred spirits with Kayla if we were friends irl
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>>7636945
I'm sorry but i can NOT allow that
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>>7636980
bait didn't take last thread huh?
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>>7636987
Please do allow it :(
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>>7636988
Please tell me I'm trans
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>>7636983
Did they ever let you cross dress?
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>>7636981
Noo that would be the second most cowardly option
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What other boards does /mtfg/ visit
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>>7636994
/v/
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>>7636993
Better than the most cowardly option right?
It's objectively the best thing to do cause I'll also kms in a few months if I do that and I won't have to live anymore

>>7636994
/tv/ mostly
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>>7636989
NEVER!
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>>7636973
Here use this
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>>7636973
we need to start a tranny extremist movement
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>>7636991
they never had the chance to 'let' me do it, I was extremely self conscious and repressed and hid my crossdressing and never told them about it growing up.
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>>7636994
right now only /lit/
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>>7636998
Reeee
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TFW you feel your brow ridge and want to vomit

TFW you go to brush your teeth and see your wide ass shoulders

TFW i'm literally a man
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>>7636985
I like what I like...
Iunno
>>7636977
I don't like ppl talking shit about made up garbage about me.
Apart from that... She's cried wolf, shat on everyone, asked for empathy, then shat on everyone again.
Seriously tho...
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>>7636994
/vp/, /tg/, & /d/
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>>7636994
/int/, /r9k/ and /v/ regularly

/x/ and /pol/ sometimes
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>>7637005
hugg iktfs
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>>7636994
/pol/
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Oh and sass you asked yesterday and I never got around to posting it so hai
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>>7637002
same... But my dad caught me once and yelled at me saying hed disown me

>>7636994
/toy/ /s4s/, various
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>>7636994
/k/ mostly.
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>>7636997
Just tell them and continue your hrt so you don't have to kys
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>>7637017
elanna a cute
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>>7636994
s4s and mu mostly
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>>7636942
I'm 19 and it seems most girls my age date guys older than them and most guys my age date girls younger than them. I guess it's always kinda like that.
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>>7637017
The handsome wife

>tfw will never boop Lanna
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>>7637017
cute lady
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>>7637017
fugging cute
>>
The previous edition OP used a picture I post often and it startled me because no ones ever reposted the rainbow smoke pictures before
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>>7637017
>ywn be as cute as elanna
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>>7636977
Anon, Valq is a cool, strong transbian that needs a good choking and Im sure you do too ;)
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>>7637022
But I can't do that
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>>7637017
pretty cute, i guess
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>>7637017
wtf elanna you're super cute
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>>7637037
I actually thought you were the OP of that when I first saw
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>>7637017
hmmm...

you proved me wrong
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>>7637029
Hahahahahaha
Who said anything about dating.
They could all be my father but I'd only keep em around as fwb
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>>7636990
Not saying you should try hrt but if it ever gets worse dont be afraid to
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>>7637042
Then let frangi do it >.<
I could write a letter too: "Hi Annas parents, btw. Anna is a girl."
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>>7637051
But I'm too proud for that
It'd be silly
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>>7637017
>ywn be as cool as elanna
:c
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>>7637055
I would gladly do it if you were to allow me to!
anything for an anna
>>
>>7637045
Yeah I actually wondered if I made it and forgot like in a super tired semi conscious state but then I saw the name and was confused
>>
>>7636994
/sci/ and /diy/
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>>7637055
Better that than to stop hrt or worse...
>>
I really wanna start smoking again.
Life seemed less melancholy when I smoked.
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DMV day
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>>7637068
just do meth
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>>7636973
can you shoot me too
>>7636994
/mu/
>>
>>7637067
No it's really not :(

>>7637061
I'll consider it but I think I'll just never tell them lol
>>
>>7637048
seems pointless to me then. I almost lost my libido completely.
>>
>>7636994
I used to go other places
But now I don't even visit 4chan aside from mtfg really
>>
>>7637071
I'm not allowed to do hard drugs
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>>7637073
Aaaaahhhh after you've done it you'll be like "that was it? wew that was easy...." so just do it! (pls)
>>
>>7637080
hi valq :3
>>7637077
how are you? :3
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>>7637081
lmao no I'll go upstairs and cry and do drugs and avoid my parents forever
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>>7637025
>>7637031
>>7637035
>>7637043
>>7637044
T-thank .-.

>>7637057
I'm not cool I'm literally trying on fashions that look kinda dykey

>>7637046
What did I prove?

>>7637068
Don't, my throat hurts rn
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>>7637076
I've a female sex drive.
There's definitely moments throughout the day where I'd be dripping wet if I had a vagooter.
>>
>>7637087
No you will feel so relieved that it feels better than any drug and then you'll have lots of sex with frangi as a reward :>
>>
>>7637089
i said it wouldnt look fem and you said you'd prove me wrong
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>>7637089
You smoke?
>>7637083
HALOOOOO
It's been a while...
How are you?
>>
>>7637097
>feels better than any drug
obvious non-druggie detected
>then you'll have lots of sex with frangi as a reward
Sounds very nice but my parents would hear ><
>>
>>7637083
Really tired and I feel kinda ill
I think I'm getting sick
But like mentally I'm fine lol
>>
>>7637101
im okie, kinda feeling empty as usual

how are you? ^-^
>>
>>7637106
Pretty much the same.
More hopeless as of late ... For the future being exciting anymore
>>
>>7637017
I love it! <3 <3<3 trés chic!
>>
>>7637106
at least caroline makes me feel not-empty
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>>7637017
Looks like cosplay, imo.

I want to pick out an outfit for you one day
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>>7637089
>I'm literally trying on fashions that look kinda dykey
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>>7637109
im getting kinda depressed due to politics
our government is more or less planning on a worse form of austerity soon so...
>>7637105
D:
see a doctor ;-;
>>
>>7637104
Yee and they would high-five you for it and say "Good job, Anna!"
>>
>>7636994
/pol/ is unironically my main board
>>
>>7637089
you are the coolest!!!!
>>
>>7637122
VANCOUVER
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>>7637130
HIGHFIVE!
>>
>>7637124
Lmao but that'd be embarrassing!
>>
>>7637017
CUTE!
CUTE!
>>
>>7637017
Please be gay and in montreal
>>
spent a few hours crying last night and ended up ordering pills for when I try to kill myself again

):
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>>7637099
See? Shirt and tie is cute on girls, I wanna actually get some nice ties and dress shirts now instead of just some shitty goodwill finds for trying it on.

>>7637101
Yeah, a little

>>7637112
Thanks :3 hugg sass

>>7637121
I blame you
Now I wanna kiss girls and wear ties

>>7637131
No, definitely not

>>7637120
I know, I want something a bit more flattering.
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>>7637122
>see a doctor ;-;
HAHAHAHAHA I'm in 'merica tho
Guess I'll just die instead
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>>7637135
But it would be embarrassing for frangi too! :>
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>>7637134
h-hand over the c-cute pictures! all in the b-bag now!
please
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>>7637140
you wearing ties is just good for me though :3
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>>7637132
Vancouver?
>>7637144
D: D: D:
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>>7637134
=D
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>>7637140
i guess you can pull it off

it looks cute!
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how does dating work in the period between when you start taking HRT and when you go fulltime

does it just not
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>>7637146
Yes so nothing good about it except the sex itself ><
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>>7637147
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>>7637150
It's a city in Canada.
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>>7637158
you always have the best pictures ><
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>>7637155
I thought you would like it if she was getting all red and embarrassed, because she couldn't keep quiet? :o
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>>7637164
no i mean why was she saying vancouver?
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>>7637140
I NEED TO JUST SMOKE AGAIN.
Ugh.
Usually I go through cycles of like 3 packs over 2-3 weeks then taper off & quit for a couple months.
Depression/bleak future is my main drive.
To hell with cravings.
>>7637150
Canada.
Yup
>>7637140
Unbuttoned dark coloured men's dress shirt, strappy sports bra, wifebeater tank, women's cargo pants.
And maybe dye your hair all back dark again
>>
>>7637140
Second hand can have good stuff
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>>7637168
S-STOP IT >///<
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>>7637167
thanks!
Ive sort of lost track whch ones Ive already posted tho
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>>7637168
:O
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>>7637170
Canada is nice
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>>7637172
:>
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>>7637169
It's Canada, it's a coastal city in its own little bay.
West coast of North America.
Canada
Umm
Why would it not be a good idea to move there.
>>7637154
Grindr.
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>>7637177
they very good
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>>7637182
oh
itd be a good idea i guess
i like canada :3
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>>7637149
Why, so you have something to grab onto?
Also, dear lord you have a lot of yuri for a straight girl.

>>7637138
Bi, Victoria

>>7637170
>dye my hair again
Fucking dropped
Getting that color lifted out cost so much time and money.

>>7637153
Thanks :3
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>>7637181
Is that because frangi is a foreigner? ._.
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>>7637191
A stinky smelly waffle
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Who wants an orchi?
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>>7637189
Lift what? The blonde?
Just dye over it, ya goof
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>>7637197
The black, when I inevitably get sick of it
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>>7637193
I can't smell anyway so it's all good~
To me you're just a pretty qt waffle
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>>7637177
You posting yuri now?
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>>7637195
Das a nice saw.
I want ffs tho.
>>7637200
Lolwat
It looks like you dyed it blonde and your roots just grew waaaaay out
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>>7637172
I want to come out too one day ;-;
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>>7637185

>>7637189
folder is called headpats and cuddles, has like 250 pictures, so its not really that big, I havent actively collected those, I just save if I see something really nice that I could tease you with. You are actually the reason the folder even exists

>>7637203
>now
where have you been the last 12 months
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>>7637195
My dads hand got cut off by one of these when guard malfunctioned
I've been terrified of them every since
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>>7637207
Don't worry, you will
Maybe even before me lol

>>7637208
I'll definitely try her out~
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>>7637205
Have you never heard of highlights?
I'm naturally a dirty blonde

>>7637209
Be careful, I'm worried you might be turning yourself gay in the process of teasing me..
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>>7637203
why does that lady look so scary
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>>7637211
Did it crawl around at night?
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>>7637213
>I'm naturally a dirty blonde
I'd say
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>>7637209
oh my gosh!
>>
>>7637202
>w<
Y-You smell nice
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>>7637219
lol
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>>7637212
Do it tomorrow after you've told your parents! :>
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>>7637213
Bitch I don't know your life.
Just pictures.
How does your hair look up in a ball cap?
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>>7637208
too fucking lewd
delete your post
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>>7637216
What? Please don't say stuff like that I'm easily spooked
>>
>>7637221
>Y-You smell nice
Seriously really really glad to hear that <3

>>7637223
>>7637223
But I won't tell my parents tomorrow
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>>7637224
that was quick, anon
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>>7637213
>you might be turning yourself gay

I am pretty sure I like dicks too much for that
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>>7637229
>Just like the Adams family
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sophie is a homo
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>>7637230
Aww too bad…
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>>7637209
>where have you been the last 12 months
In Normal-land mostly but I still don't remember you posting yuri. I must have blocked it.

>>7637214
That's Alexandra Derpadario and she doesn't look scary. Does she?
>>
https://unsee.cc
/matepidu/

sorry, new dress
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>>7637230
My pants smells of you from sitting on ur bed so thats nice
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>>7637234
You know I said the same thing right? And then I realized that some girls had penises. And then I realized that some girls are ok with using their penises on me.

Now I'm starting to wonder if I might like vagina if I gave it a chance. This is how it starts sophie, run while you can

>>7637225
Idk I don't own a good one

>>7637219
lolled
>>
>>7637243
Rude desu
I-I'm doing very well!
>>
>>7637159
holy shit
everyone on pol is a repressed tranny
>>
>>7637249
Hehe comfy!
I wish I could smell you ;_;
>>
>>7637250
You can't be a dyke then, sorry.
It's the rules
>>
im so sleepi
>>
>>7637237
i made a reference to my 16 year old nephew looking like cousin it (because of his hair) the other day, and he had no idea what the Addams family was

TIMES, THEY BE A-CHANGING
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>>7637258
theyre only ever british flags
and if you look at the id those are only two posters
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>>7637246
Ive been working on making elanna gay for a literal year

>>7637241
pic related

>>7637250
I am so full of hatred, and I dont interact with anyone irl regularly except my bf, so I dont think thats likely :P
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>>7637258
This isn't news.
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>>7637182
>Why would it not be a good idea to move there.
It's expensive af :(
It's one of the best places in the world to live though!
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>>7637234
Being gay is okay :>
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>>7637262
go take a nap nimmy
>>
>>7637273
sophie irl
>>
>>7637205
I knew you would like it lol
Thanks.
>>7637211
:/
The guard on mine seems pretty advanced, it only comes off when the saw is moving down onto the workpiece.
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>>7637266
don't fight the gay just let it happen
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>>7637234
girls can have dicks too!
>>
>>7637271
>Implying I dont have the skill set required for the area's industry

Hate to say this... But I'm really just waiting on name/gender change in March and then about a year of pipeline welding trade school before I ditch the US forever
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>>7637266
I don't exactly think that has any bearing on orientation given orientation is sort of a fixed thing independent of your life situation or who you interact with.
Plus I seem to recall one time you said you had a thing for strong women pretransition.

I'm actually increasingly dubious that you're 100% straight, but I'm pretty damn biased in that assessment when you keep flirting with me.
>>
>>7637279
Yeah I'm pretty sure he bought it used from some junk hardware store so idk
I still refuse to go near any power tools with blades though
I have nightmares about it still and it was like 4 years ago now
>>
why does everyone abuse drugs?
>>
>>7637292
sadness
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>>7637292
because we need them to look like girls?
>>
>>7637292
They're cheaper than figurines.
>>
>>7637291
Hmm yeah that's probably why. Mine is brand new.
So his whole hand was completely lopped off?
>>
>>7637298
good one
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>>7637297
>because we need them to look like girls?
How's snorting coke gonna make you look more feminine?
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>>7637292
because I'm dead inside.
>>
>>7637284
no but it was a lot of fun

>>7637273
but I am not anon

>>7637285
ya but even if I wasnt 100% straight, Id never date someone as crazy as me

>>7637292
because they work against the torment that is being a tranny

>>7637287
wew, you have great memory, I am impressed
dont worry though, Women just arent attractive to me
>>
>>7637286
I wasn't implying anything, but Vancouver is ridiculously expensive. Doctors married to doctors are being priced out of the housing market.
>>
>>7637292
I'm straight edge
>>
>>7637266
>curing your gay
just keep repressing, and avoid the thoughts.

The more you feed them, the more they come.

Open, accepting attitudes for it don't help
>>
>>7637292
Shakira is a hon, who cares if she overdoses? Stop crying over her.
>>
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>>7637292
because they're fun.
>>
>>7637140
I just want to see that putfit with skirt and heels and kickass Elanna boss lady!
>>
>>7636789
Are you a mechanic?
[spoiler] closet trans estimator here [/spoiler]
>>
>>7637310
This - a ton of real estate is being bought up by foreign investors, and housing prices have gone San Francisco levels of crazy over the past few years.
>>
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>>7637284
Ok, it actually was a bit like that

>>7637292
They numb you to the pain

>>7637308
I mean, I'm probably the biggest hypocrite in the world when I say this, but it is honestly ok to be bi.
Also
>don't worry
What did she mean by this?
>>
>>7637320
Yup.
>>
>>7637300
Not quite
It came down through the wrist bones but his hand wasn't directly under the saw so it only cut through one side and when he pulled his hand away it was caught in the blade so his hands spun around and the fingers got cut off too.
Basically a letter C was cut in his hand with only the pinky and that side attached to the limb then the palm and other fingers were all separate and kinda flung around
It was horrible
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>boyfriend thinking of joining the Air Force

[worry]
>>
/mtfg/ is hot today
like a sunrise
>>
>>7637303
help lose weight
>>
>>7637338
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7269550/#7270331

Hey Korra you were wrong :D
>>
>>7637325
Nothing is crazier than the London property market. How much does a flat cost to rent in Vancouver? How much does a 3 bed family house cost to buy?
>>7637336
Gruesome.
>>7637303
Reduces your appetite.
>>
>>7637316
trip on
>>
>>7637310
>>7637325
you can still live there I think you just need to live way far away from the city and commute
>>
>>7637338
airforce safest branch besides navy I think, it okay
>>
>>7637339
<3
You are pretty but you were an ugly boy
>>
>>7637354
Murders the most brown people though.
>>
>>7637336
Oh my god, I feel so sorry for you that so many horrible things happened to you…
You really deserve a happy and peaceful life now.
>>
>>7637355
;_;
hey i don't think i was -that- ugly

also i think you've got the same hair texture as me
>>
I wish I was trans
>>
why did i think it was a good idea to shave two days in a row

my face has become one giant razor bump ;_;
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>>7637340
>>7637349
Heroin chic only looks good on girls.
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>>7637354
it was still really sad news that upset me but i smiled and tried to support his decision
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Morning gorgeous people! ^_^

>>7637292

I consume entheogens to commune with extradimensionals. Though I used to candyflip to make music taste better.
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>>7637325
There are something like 100,000 Chinese millionaires that bought Canadian citizenship and moved to Vancouver and the worst part is most of them are hiding their income and paying less in taxes than the impoverished do.

>>7637366
>I wish I was trans
You think you do, but you don't. Or maybe you are trans. Explore your feelings anon.
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>>7637366
I think you might be a tran then
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>>7637366
Then you're trans
There is nothing good about this
You probably think "I wanna be trans cause I'd have a good reason to be a girl" but that means you really want to be a girl which makes you trans
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>>7637366
i wish i could focus on my schoolwork instead of wanting to cut my dick off
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>>7637370
Karma for being arrogant
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>>7637367
Maybe an electric razor will be less harsh to your skin?
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>>7637367
wet your face alot and then use shaving cream. when it shaving shave with the grain and left then right. after that shave very gently against the grain for th closest possible shave
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>>7637378
Don't cut your dick off wtf
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>>7637370
it will be okay, the chance of him getting hurt is really low
>>7637357
they should be spending the money on the homeless instead 40,000$ bombs
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>>7637338
congrats ur bf is going to get shot down over the south china sea remember to thank daddy trump
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>>7637349
>>7637358
I didn't actually see it happen, I was asleep when I woke up to him screaming
My brother panicked so I had to like call emt and help him out and stuff and put the parts on ice
It was fucked
I'm getting ill just thinking about it
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>>7637295

>>7637297
True..

>>7637298
>>7637301
Toys*

>>7637306
>>7637308
>>7637311

>>7637316
Because

>>7637318
>>7637326
>>7637371
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1bgV7gWVMH6
It's juniper hour
You are in for some quality posts
<3
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>go into speech therapy
>dress like a boy
>talk to like a boy
>man spreading
>oh no hunny.jpg
>makes me sit up straight, cross my ankles
>stops. Me when I sound like a boy
>gives me homework
>tells me not to slip that bad again

Sometimes you just need a strong woman to put you back on the right path
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>>7637349
>Nothing is crazier than the London property market. How much does a flat cost to rent in Vancouver? How much does a 3 bed family house cost to buy?
Average price for a house in Vancouver is $1.5m CAD, but I'm not sure about a 3 bedroom house specifically. A 2 bed rent would probably be around $1200-$1500 a month
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>>7637366
This >>7637376, I used to think the exact same way
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>>7637371
hello fellow entheogen user :)
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>>7637390
speech therapy?
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>>7637159
This is bait for transgirls to sympathize with /pol/

>>7637366
>Mfw reading this
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>>7637366
this is the funniest thing i've heard all year
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>>7637395
Yeah me too
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>>7637384
i know it was just an unpleasant surprise. he is very depressed with his life atm and doesn't have much hope. I try my best to cheer him up but I can tell. he's probably not going to get accepted because he has scoliosis.

But thrle thought of him being away months at a time is upsetting even if it is unlikely
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I just got back from the store. It was such a bad feel trip I can't even describe

all I know is im sad I never had a girlhood. how can i ever call myself a girl when i was denied that?

then a bunch of other sad things happened.
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>>7637381
I use a Philips Ladyshave for my face and then finish it up with a Gillette Venus
I don't think I exfoliate enough, though.

>>7637383
but i want it gone
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>>7637382
>shave with the grain and left then right. after that shave very gently against the grain for th closest possible shave
That's like the worst advice.
Burn is caused by irritation of the blade dragging across the skin, doing it multiple times is a shit idea especially if you've got sensitive skin
Once against the grain is all you need
>>
>>7637367
>>7637381
>Maybe an electric razor will be less harsh to your skin?
I use an electric foil razor on what's left of my stubble and it's very gentle. Every so often it will nick a spot though, like maybe every few months it'll happen :(
Also are you pressing too hard? I can use a bladed razor without any trouble as long as I am very gentle and use quality foam.
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>>7637412
I know but you need to be safe <3
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>>7637399
Yes I go to a therapist to sound like a girl she has a Lab coat and everything
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>>7637363
yr beard sucked m'lady
but yeah i see some similarities between us
>>7637390
You've seen a speech therapist before yah?
is this a new one?
>>7637401
<3
>>7637406
iktf
look to the future, be a bad bitch for the rest of yr life and quit mourning what you've been over before
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>>7637413
that's how you get ingrown hairs
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>>7637405
he probably won't get in with that but idk much about it. if he does doing that can make someone a stronger person with more purpose I hear
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>>7637393
>>7637349
I meant to say detatched house*, but average house price overall is about $950,000
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>>7637422
Same one she's awesome
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>>7637423
on your face, isn't that unlikely?
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>>7637412
>I use a Philips Ladyshave for my face and then finish it up with a Gillette Venus
That's just gonna cause more irritation
Learn to shave with only the blade,
Do all the proper pre and post care and you should be good
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>>7637406
Hey! Want to talk about it?
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>>7637312
no thanks

>>7637326
>What did she mean by this?

you dont need to be scared that I might end up chasing you unironically :P
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>>7637423
Proper pre and post care will prevent that.
You're much more likely to have problems going over multiple times anyway.
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>>7637430
no it's pretty common if you don't know how to shave properly
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>>7637397

Oooooooooooo there are others?!! :3

>10,000 years of wisdom
>15 minutes of crying on the couch

I haven't seen the DMT people in too long... I wonder what they will teach me next time ^_^!
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>>7637420
I'm a scientist and even I don't get a lab coat ;_;
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>>7637422
oh, yeah, the beard was like ~1 year before i actually started HRT
not too many similarities, unfortunately

looking at my pre-hrt pics is weird now
i know it hasn't been long but i feel like i looked way more masc in them
maybe i'm just disassociating
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>>7637310
Oil pays competitive to the area no matter where you're at.
I have the pipeline mech background..
I just want to retire by 40 with welding certs in a comfy location
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>>7637433
idk what i can say

>>7637422
>look to the future, be a bad bitch for the rest of yr life and quit mourning what you've been over before

how it feels so invasive and intrusive to my thouhghts. i am trying so hard to be mindful but it just forces its way into my mind.
>>
>tfw gonna ruse my GP dad into taking my blood and getting it tested so that I have a reference for selfmedding
desperate times call for desperate measures
>>
>>7637397
>>7637449
I wanna do entheogens too uwu
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>>7637451
What kind?
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>>7637460
LSD is an entheogen
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>>7637459
Don't you think he'll see through that?
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>>7637388
i dont know why this was so fuckin funny but it was
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>>7637355
Juniper I feel lonely.
>>7637366
This >>7637378
>>7637384
Exactly
>>7637427
London is worse, $1,056,252 CAD according to Google. Still surprised at Vancouver though.
>>7637449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtGOR85VYhI
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>>7637469
i hope not
im scared
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>>7637466
Oh
I wanna do DMT*
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7M9xqsvvh4

IM MISTER WHITE CHRISTMAS
IM MISTER NOW
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>>7637464
Computational physicist. So it's not like I need a lab coat, but still...
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>>7637453
This saw is loud as fuck.
>>
>>7637449
do you have a discord?

>>7637452
>maybe i'm just disassociating
i know that feel
old pics dont even feel like me anymore
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>>7637452
Yes
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>>7637441
I wasn't exactly afraid of that, in fact if anything it's a little bit depressing that you can give me feels with yuriposting and I'm fully aware that you're putting on an act.

But idk, I guess I see other things that suggest there's more at play here and I guess as someone who clung to heterosexuality out of shame and not wanting to be seen as less trans, they sort of stick out a bit.
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>>7637441
Do you still need to say "no homo" if you're doing it ironically?
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Sometimes i wonder what it would have been like if i decided to try to be a gay male instead of a tranny
>>
>you will never be a cis lesbian
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>>7637502
NEPTAMY
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>>7637473
>London is worse, $1,056,252 CAD according to Google. Still surprised at Vancouver though.
it's less here, but our houses are smaller and cost more per square metre

average house price here in london is around £480k, which is like 800k canadabux, but you get less for your money
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>>7637502
pls no
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>>7637502
I tried this, still had mad dysphoria
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>>7637481
Scream louder whenever you use it.
Make your neighborhood think you're super dooper autistic & shouldn't be handling power saws
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look at this cat i found on wikipedia
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>>7637489
Wew that escalated quickly

>I guess I see other things

these things do exist, so your observation is correct but that has reasons that have nothing to do with me being interested in girls, I think we talked about that before.
Id rather not talk about this publicly though.

>>7637492
yes
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>>7637502
dysphoria would still be a thing. i literally couldn't be gay because I was absolutely disgusted by myself as a male and had huge amounts of homophobia to work out.
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>>7637516
why are you looking up cats on wikipedia, surely you know what a cat is
>>
>>7637451
my mommy is a pharmacist and she gets a cool lab coat thing u jelly?
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>>7637489
Idgi.
Why don't trannies understand;
Once you're a tran, you're the entire goddamn lgbtqwtfbbq spectrum.
Sexual preferences be damned, there's no shame about 'being gay' if everyone knows you're already a tranny.
>>
>>7637523
you can never be too sure
>>
>>7637459
you need to specify certain things when doing blood test if the doctor doesn't mark hormone lvls on the test requisition they won't test for that
>>
>>7637530
Look up the Dutch pronunciation while you're at it, you need it ;)
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>>7637480
O..h o////o
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>>7637533
dat reference
im really glad to hear you were paying attention to my explanation :3

>>7637532
good point
>>
yr my only friends
yr not my only friends but you are little glowing friends
but really yr not actually my friends
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>>7637527
wanting to be seem as legitimate i think
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>>7637536
Well duh everything you say is qt
When your mum said you have a cat I had to think twice about what she said lol
>>
>>7637480
Math turns Faye on.
Good job.
>>
>>7637541
Hi Juni
>>
>>7637460

Baby steps :) try a sarcophagus dose of edibleTHC/CBD imo, not a true entheogen but it will prepare you for being confronted with your fears. That's what it's all about right? Self discovery.

DMT will put you through the wringer. Ever done god doses of shrooms or LSD?

>>7637473
Yessss I like that one!
I'm gunna put it on and have a shower ;)

>>7637484
Yep :) Chelsea#3442

>>7637502
Yeah... I was a bi Femboy for too long. You are doing the right thing for your self. I know you have doubts but, you got this! <3
>>
jk yr my best friends
>>
FtM's elude me
why would anybody want that?

>they get looks 99~% of the time, but no easy genitals
>MtF's get easy genital options, but no looks 50+% of the time
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>>7637542
Doesn't mean cislesbos won't think you're fair game.
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>>7637551
Hi caroline
<3!
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>>7637552
I have done LSD enough to be comfortable with it, and in high doses too.
I don't really like THC though
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>>7637502
I've been considering this a lot.
>>7637508
Google said £640k
>>7637514
Lol
I'm gonna buy earmuffs and use it tomorrow afternoon. It's 10:33 pm now and I'm in a residential area.
>>7637480
Discovered anything? Physics is so dead these days.
>>7637555
>£20k
>Easy genitals
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>>7637561
Hows you
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>>7637557
don't most cis lesbians think we're gross
most of them don't seem to like dicks, and i'm fairly certain SRS vaginas are worse than actual vaginas
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>>7637555
stop being a dumbass u pos
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>>7637566
i was bored but now i'm having fun how about yrself?
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>>7637521
Idk, you may have to refresh my memory some time, because I may remember the things but not the reasons for them. Regardless, I won't press it any further, this probably isn't the place for that kind of talk, and I don't want to make you uncomfortable.

>>7637527
You know it's really as simple as some people literally doubting that you're a girl if you admit that you like girls while you're questioning. Like, trans communities have not always been this accepting of this, there was also a LOT less information available on trans issues when I was questioning.
>>
>>7637568
stop thinking 4chan is the real world
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>>7637557
i know. apparently i have string lesbian vibes and set off like every lesbian's gaydar ever so i do get hit on pretty regularly by dykes. I guess just the 4chins lez beans hate tran trans so much
>>
>>7637571
I'M MISTER GREEN CHRISTMAS
I'M MISTER SUN

UWU
>>
>>7637555
>easy genitals
really senpai?
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>>7637565
>easy genital options
go back to school you ape
>>
>>7637507
w-what??

>>7637509
>>7637552
>>7637565
i dont plan to, i just wonder about it
all my brothers are gay anyway
like what would my life have been like if i forced myself down that path instead? idk

>>7637510
>>7637522
thats like one fear i had and why i didnt try
also i was never really attracted to men, only now beginning to ig

>>7637555
>tfw part of the no looks 50%
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>>7637581
Trip on
>>
>>7637579
i like that song uwu
<3
>>
>>7637502
I'm still working on that hypothesis

Perhaps I just haven't been GAY enough


;_; I'm kidding I wanna be a girl super bad
>>
>>7637580
>turning dick insideout
easier than sewing rolled up arm hair on your crotch
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>>7637576
fair enough

i just want to be accepted and loved as a girl :(
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Will i be able to socially transition from a faggy homo boy to a faggy homo girl?

pic not related, i just think it's a cool watch
>>
>>7637565
>>7637580
>>7637581
to be fair, FtM bottom surgery is much worse by comparison

>>7637589
i dont think i am, its just weird to think about
being a girl is hard
>>
>>7637568
>4chan is representative of reality.
>>
>>7637586
:3
>>
>>7637592
what does it watch tho?
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>>7637594
i've never known a lesbian irl i think :c
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>>7637565
>Google said £640k
that's just rightmove (who are famous for their inflation of house prices), and that's only for terraced houses, literally any other source gives you a figure of around £480k overall

north americans are princesses with their giant houses though, try explaining to one of them most UK houses have the washing machine in the kitchen because there's nowhere else to put it
>>
>>7637590
>what are prosthetics for 200 points
>>
>>7637598
i watch the watch
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>>7637568
>i'm fairly certain SRS vaginas are worse than actual vaginas

if you go to a top surgeon the difference is nearly zero for your partner. the biggest problems are probably fertility and nerve endings

lubrication is hit or miss, depends on age and surgeon I guess

When I was early in transition, before I became a turbo shutin, I had a few (self proclaimed) lesbians hitting on me even though I didnt pass and they knew what I was, I think the 'OMG mtfs are terrible' crowd is a minority among them in real life

>>7637575
sure, poke me on discord some time if youre interested.
>>
>>7637602
STILL worse than a neovag
keep trying
>>
tfw little kids stare at you for minutes on end
>>7637597
:^3
<3
>>7637604
Y?
>>
>>7637575
Weird for me I guess.
I hammered out my sexuality in a quest to figure out why I'm sad and feminine.
Then I trans'd
You're vanilla AF bb.
>>
>>7637611
to know what time it is
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>>7637584
I thought I wasn't attracted to guys but I'd often have lewd fantasies involving them and myself as a girl.

it might be tied to body image issues bc i hated the idea of me as a masculine man having sex with another man. it filled me with shame regret and guilt.

but as a girl it's like vagina is gross now m8 guy dix only plz L. idk how similar we were but i do get where ur coming from. I think some trans girls carry over that line of thought after starting transition and don't really let themselves explore.

I'm kinda glad I went through a transbian and bi phase it let me see what I liked and didn't
>>
>>7637593
they don't get surgery on their bottoms
do they? aren't bottoms the same for both?
unless you have a really nasty ass, but that's not sex specific
>>
>>7637611
:^^^^3
>>
>>7637601
Oh
My mum pointed out to me that they are opening a Foxtons in my suburb. She says they would never had looked at this part of the city 20 years ago but now everywhere is hot property. More hipster cafes too.
>try explaining to one of them most UK houses have the washing machine in the kitchen because there's nowhere else to put it
I just realized that that is indeed weird. Yeah in Jamaica we had a separate laundry room.
>>
>>7637610
it's literally not, quality neovag is extremely expensive
>>
>>7637547
uwu
>>
>>7637578
4chan lesbians are men/closet ftms.
>>7637600
I tell by your vast generalizations.
A friend left her dyke GF after she asked to 3way with me... But only after she found out I wasn't just a butch cis girl.


Breasts, soft skin, and a soft delicate penis.
C'mon now
>>
i had bloody diarrhea this morning and i'm eating really really spicy curry
wtf
>>
>>7637629
thats gross
>>
>>7637629
Clever girl.
>>
>>7637633
yr telling me
>>
>>7637625
but not impossible
whereas building a functioning penis from excess roast beef is

I'd love to see a side by side shot of what a ftm and mtf would get for the same price
>>
>>7637607
>if you go to a top surgeon the difference is nearly zero for your partner. the biggest problems are probably fertility and nerve endings
isn't suporn retiring? who are the other top surgeons besides brassard?

guess i don't have much experience talking to lesbians desu, know a few bi girls, but that's about it
i'm just kind of scared of SRS fucking up somehow or something

my libido is my main problem, i think, i still have a hyperactive sex drive and that makes me come off as weirder than i'd want to

>>7637627
idk, wouldn't the dick be better functional if you're going to use it?
t. virgin
i should probably not be worrying this much about sexual stuff since i'm this inexperienced
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>>7637607
Sure, I probably was actually going to poke you on discord sometime later this week anyways for unrelated reasons. I'm finally going through with grad school and I have an interview lined up with one of my old profs who wants to know if he should write me a letter ;~;

>>7637612
I know I'm vanilla as fuck
I don't have sex with people I'm not in love with, and have literally had two relationships that lasted longer than a month or so. My understanding of my orientation comes primarily from the limited variety of men I've been with, and an awareness and repression of uncomfortable feelings of attraction towards some women.
>>
>>7637636
you claimed it was "easy" though
>>
>>7637629
You should probably see a doctor

Like immediately
>>
>>7637555
>they get looks 99~% of the time
i'd say the have the same rate as mtfs
so many of them look like dykes
>>
>>7637644
Easier, compared to the other
why, what were you comparing it to?
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Post watches
my brother in law got me this a couple years ago but my wrist is too small for it now lol

>>7637601
>try explaining to one of them most UK houses have the washing machine in the kitchen because there's nowhere else to put it
most appartments have this though

>>7637611
>tfw little kids stare at you for minutes on end
at my friends youth group game party i went to, a few boys there kept starring at me like i was an alien or something

>>7637616
>i hated the idea of me as a masculine man having sex with another man. it filled me with shame regret and guilt.
This is like... literally how i feel
I developed a crush on my male best friend awhile ago and recently ive been having a lot of lewd dreams about him being with me as a woman and its like really mixed feelings i guess
I dont find men attractive generally, like i have zero sexual or romantic interest in "hot guys" or whatever people post here some times, but i think if i fall for them as a person i can find them attractive.
I still definitely like women though
maybe im just a bi-scum
>>
>>7637654
I took it as you saying saying it was "easy", "easier" makes more sense since ftm surgery is fucking shit
>>
>>7637655
that sounds like what people call "demisexuality"
>>
>>7637666
Who makes up these words?
>>
>>7637480
Lol
>Go supervise a building
>Jeans, shirt, boots
Lol, wtf is a faggot doing at a construction site?
>Black pants, black tshirt, black boota, construction hat and a tape measure
Look look! It's the architect

I guess every peofession has it's uniforms.
>>
>>7637643
>>7637642
Is it weird that I love all my 4chan babbies & I just want to be in that strong protector older sister with no parents role?
All of you are adorable & I only want the best for each and every one of yoy
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBL2thqJc0g
>>
>>7637655
I don't have a watch I just use my phone
>>
>>7637655
>most appartments have this though
I always thought most US apartment buildings had like a shared laundry room in the basement or something
>>
>>7637592
That watch doesn't look so cool in real life though.
You can get it really cheap from some chinese site i think it was fasttech
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me
>>
>>7637675
n-no, it's not weird
i think you'd make a great older sister c:
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>>7637673
latin
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>>7637655
I have this one
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_WDugKPnlk
>>
>>7637607
>Tfw 2 old for lubrication
Smite me where I lay Kamisama.
>>
Remember to love yourself. No matter how much you may dislike the appearance of the person you see in the mirror, look her in the eyes every morning and say, "I love you. Do well today; I believe in you."
>>
>>7637694
just buy lube..
>>
>>7637655
im not saying you'll have the same experience as me but based on what I sent though it'll get easier to accept liking guys as you become more comfortable with yourself as a woman and start to see yourself as such.

there's probably some latent attraction there but it sounds like those self image issues stop it from being fully realized. so there's hope at least. for me liking guys is nautral and I find then attractive. girls not so much. I only get jealous of them lol
>>
>>7637643
>I'm finally going through with grad school

I am so proud of you <3
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>>7637677
Juniper this is not patrician.
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>>7637655
>owning a watch
>>
>>7637697
good message but idk who realistic it is
>>
>>7637697
i can say it, but i can't seem to believe it
>>
>>7637698
Yah, I probs look like postmenopausal woman anyhow.
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Groping my own boobs is really boring, but sometimes I won't actually touch them but just fantasize about having a partner play with them, and it feels kinda good then.

Is this normal?
>>
>>7637710
>>7637714

If you repeat it enough, you will come to believe it.
>>
>>7637722
not sure about that one desu sounds like some stupid /pol/ meme magic shit
>>
>>7637564
>I don't like THC

Yeah big doses are scary :S Though in my experience nothing takes you to where DMT can like lots of canabinoids. DMT is extremely confronting...

>>7637584
You're a girl :3

In my experience you would have got here anyways, just taken longer. But who knows. Get out of the thinking mind and connect with the present ;) we can't turn back time, so why waste the emotional energy dwelling on it? Look at how beautiful the universe is, we are truly blessed to exist at all! We may be fucked up trannys, but I'd rather be that than like an ant or something.

Finding things to be grateful for now, helps shift our mind to a more positive mode :) there are a lot of things I am grateful for, for one: all you lovely girls on /mtfg/ <3

That certainly includes you! :P
>>
>>7637697
this is good advice but i don't love myself
i just want to be a cis girl
i didn't ask for this
>>
who's yr favorite mommy
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>>7637705
Ahhh but there's nothing to be proud of I haven't gotten in yet and I'm scared shitless of talking to my old profs, it took me several days to work up the courage to email them ;~~;
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>>7637729
specifically juniper
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>>7637655
i have this rlly smol digital casio watch
its also gold
hope that's not too agp
>>
faye is my favorite mommy
>>
>>7637697

Best advice, positive self talk is a cornerstone of boosting Self worth
>>
>>7637736
oh
that's delightful
do you want some bitty?
>>
>>7637697
Is it weird that I feel like my personality is a bit split with majority being sad girl and rest being the last remnants of the artificial repression personality created back in school trying to help and protect me?
>>
>>7637739
How can you not feel like a tool while doing so?
>>
wait so elanna IS gay?
>>
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>>7637708
What's wrong with owning a watch?
>>
>>7637755
total gayfer
>>
>>7637755
I'm not gay wtf
>>
>>7637729
La santa muerte
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>>7637764
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>>7637755
yes?

>>7637734
you DID work up the courage to email them though, so it means you have your priorities straight, and youre prepared to go forward.
starting to climb is often harder than climbing, because before you can start beating the mountain, you have to beat your own fear.
At least, thats what always impressed me most.
>>
>>7637764
But you like girls now?
>>
>>7637755
she's bi
>>
so i've basically grown my hair out from a buzz cut for a year, and i need to style it somehow. if i pull a hair from the front down it reaches about 2 inches below my chin. basically the back is longer than the front area and it just blobs up back there, i'm looking to clean it up. any ideas? i guess it'll end up looking like a shorter haircut
>>
>>7637769
So....
Me?
>>
>>7637769
sass i want to cuddle with you rn
>>
>>7637755
She is like really cool, the coolest one could say
>>
You may say I'm a fool,
Feelin' the way that I do
You can call me Pollyanna,
Say I'm crazy as a loon,
I believe in silver linings
And that's why I believe in you
>>
maybe i should take a break from /mtfg/ desu
i dunno if my heightened genital dysphoria is real of just a reaction to getting called agp all the time

i mean i definitely have dysphoria but it's usually okay unless i think about having a vag
>>
>>7637787
you shouldn't be on mtfg if you're so sensitive kiddo
>>
>>7637787
>maybe i should take a break from /mtfg/ desu
Please do, i don't dislike you that much, but you shit up everything.
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>>7637772
>now

>>7637771
Idk at a certain point it's just like "what's the worst that could happen" but idk I always worry about coming across as rude or whatever because I know academic communication is always so formal. I guess the process is started and the momentum is now there. Idk what I'll do if I can't get in though ;-;

>>7637770
gay
>>
>>7637783
this song is really nice
>>7637787
yeah i can tell you've been getting too into it lately
I like you but it seems like you've been annoying people no offense
>>
>>7637794
I've been gone for a year I'm just catching up okay?
>>
>>7637747

Repetition. You need to beleive it. Feeling like a tool means on some level you don't currently. Doing this routine often will help cement the idea in your subconscious. It's very important that self esteem comes from the self. We often place our worth on the opinions of others. How can we ever hope to love another if we cannot even love ourselves?

I accept where I'm at today, and I show up for myself fully.

Show up anon, we've got this! :)
>>
hugg
>>
The next 3-4 months are going to be amazing after i do my exam on friday.
Literally only fun things or proggress with transition/life

>>7637794
Good luck with postgrad
If you get into it with a positive mindset you'll get far
>>
>>7637798
No no
It's more of a matter of it always being there
That's all
>>
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>>7637722
>>
>>7637802
hugg
>>
>>7637797
>>
>>7637805
I meant like, now you're not denying it baka

i missed you ;-;
>>
>>7637655
It's been over 30 years since I've worn one. Last one I touched alternated between the current time, and how many days, hours, and minutes to the release of some science fiction movie.
>>
>>7637799
But how can I feel positive about myself if no-one likes me?
>>
>>7637807
*traps you in a cuddle grasp*
>>
>>7637726

>Magic
Hypnosis/suggestion is some well-studied science, and that is more or less what you are doing when you condition yourself with a mantra like that every day.

>>7637728

And I would like to be Bill Gates. We cannot change the cards we are dealt, only what we do with them. Transition may help you to live life as close as possible to that of a girl, but it will need you to put forth some effort of your own, even on the mental side. We all must make the reality we want to live, or at least, as close to our ideal as possible.
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>>7637794
believe in yourself :)
I am pretty sure this will work out!
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>>7637818
ahhhhhhhhh
>>
How often does mtfg wear tights or leggings?
>>
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>>7637810
No, what's even the point
Everyone kind of could tell anyways

Hugg

>>7637803
Thanks sertii
Hugg

>>7637822
I'll try ;--;
Thanks sophie

Anyways I'm off to work now toodles
>>
My qhi order has shipped! How long to expect it to arrive to the usa?
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>>7637816
I like you
>>7637828
:3
yr cute
>>7637829
like one night a week these days
>>
>>7637666
I dont want to be a meme
but the only boys i like are ones who i like as a person
otherwise boys are repulsive idk just end me

>>7637681
Older ones usually
I've only ever lived in one like that and ive lived in like a dozen different places so

>>7637678
same :/ i used to use it though
>>7637690
oh my
>>7637708
it was literally gifted to me so ¯\_(シ)_/¯
>>7637737
lol looks girly as fuck

>>7637703
Yeah i just have to wait and see i guess
i've never really had my sexuality challenged till recently anyway so i dont know how far it goes lol
>>
>>7637708
>>7637812
All ye trutrans (TM) tryhards you do know that originally wristwatches were for women only to the point that men refused to wear them right? But then WW1 happened and using pocketwatches to time the charge was a little tricky when shell-shoked troops kept losing them so they just caved in and ordered women's wristwatches. Once people saw big macho army guys wearing it they became cool for men (and rapidly uncool for women)
>>7637838
I'm not feeling the love today.
>>
neptune likes boys
>>
>>7637829
wear them when I am wearing a skirt
>>7637838
uwu
>>
juniper likes girls
>>
is eva gay?
>>
I like girls too
>>
>>7637849
ya
>>
>>7637816

This is not a simple question to answer... But the short and skinny is: with diligence. Besides people pick up on how we view ourselves. Have you ever noticed that bullies don't bully everyone, but specific targets? Don't be a target, be a force of awesome. It all starts with self esteem, which can only come from you, it's like in the name, right?

You are more powerful than you realise darling :)
>>
>>7637851
same
>>
>>7637843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7dMGw3uzEU
>>7637848
;3
>>
i like a anime boys
>>
>>7637727
i-im a girl??
but yeah i know i should dwell on it
ive been feeling a lot better recently so that is nice, even if its hard to think why i do
>>
AAAAAAAAA
>>
i like suffering from the pain o' spiciness
>>
>>7637797
i do a lot better on discords
too much toxicity here and i end up arguing too much
>>
>>7637861
Frangi a silly
>>
>>7637832
Are you doing postgrad studies Elanna? I really hope it works out for you. You're one of the most leveheaded and mature people here and I think you deserve the best.
>>
>>7637697
What if most of my self-loathing has actually almost no relation to me being trans though.
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>tfw you go in expecting lighthearted sci-fi farce but get hit in the face by a truckload of feels instead

>>7636684
I'm glad she finally got her revisions
>>
>>7637843
I'm familiar...I used to own a number of the "delicate" ones...
>>
>>7637880

It is nonetheless something to address.
>>
i might die tonight
if i do it's ok
if i don't it's ok too
>>
>>7637890
Working on it. I feel my life has potential if I seize on the abilities I have but that's not going to be possible if I let myself self-destroy and self-sabotage.
>>
dysphoria desu
>>
>>7636782
as long as you pass a decent amount of the time and don't have full-on raging BDD of the not-meme sort you should at least be able to be as happy as your average cis person who has some mental health problems

I mean I'm a raging hon and while I still get suicidal sometimes, I've still had enough feminisation at 16 months that the dysphoria doesn't feel like quite the same overwhelming pit of absolute despair of astronomical severity that it was beforehand

now it's just depression
>>
>>7637897

Well I believe in your ability to succeed, and hope you do too. Have faith, and never give in.
>>
how do I get rid of all the gross marks my body has from shaving like an idiot when I was a teen
>>
/pol/ here, got a quick question for you guys.

How common is it for transpeople NOT to think things like "women have it easier" or "it's better to be born a woman"? How many of you are trans but still think that men have it better overall?
>>
>>7637902
;_; noooo
hugg
>>
>>7637915
In my experience neither sex really has it 'easier' overall, just an easier or harder time doing certain things, depending on the scenario.
>>
im terrible at tolerance breaks
i managed 4 days this time lol

also i managed to do fagvoice (the proto-girlvoice sort) earlier involuntarily earlier
my larynx just sorta slid backwards while I was relaxed and sitting in bed and made my voice sound all quiet and faggy
annoying it was only for a few seconds and not by conscious muscular control but maybe if I were to one day get voice surgery to hold the larynx there for me it means i'd be otherwise capable of girlvoice...
>>
>>7637915
Women have it harder in life because of the pressure and violence that society directs at them. I'm not transitioning because I want life on easy mode or whatever retarded shite some people in /pol/ believe, I've accepted that life is a nasty and cruel and brutal struggle. I'm transitioning because I want to feel at ease with who I am, for my own sake.
>>
>>7637915

Cishet have it best. Regardless of gender. Men dominate that group, but both men and women of the cishet persuasion have it the best.

But then, like everything, it's all subjective.
>>
>>7637915
on 4chan there are a lot of 'women have it easier' types because of r9k and pol shit but 4chan is not many people

overall most mtf realize women generally face more oppression in society
>>
>>7637946
<3
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>>7637876
I want to and I'm going to do my best to get in. I really want to finish what I started and go somewhere in my field.
Thanks nicotine
Hugg

Anyways bye!
>>
>>7637946
same desu
>>
>>7637950
Bye bye Elanna. Good luck! and hugg.
>>
>>7637961
give him a show
>>
>>7637961
sorry i'll turn the bot off
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>>7637969
me too
>>
>>7637961
install gentoo
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If you want to know how to be happy: rub ferret bellies
it steals their life force
>>
>>7637977
just put tape on the camera
>>
>>7637977
Stop running Windows.
>>
omg I managed it again, I think being high gives me more finesse over my throat muscle control

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LTUgWRpEY7

can you imagine how much different my life would be if I didn't have hypotonia making things harder for me lol
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>>7637969
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>>7637976
What's wrong?
>>
>>7637778
hold me in your sweet embrace 'til my body grows cold and myvbreath ceases.

>>7637781
ths would be a nice alternative, desu
>>
>>7637961
Cover over the camera with some opaque tape.
>>
>>7637988
No I have an Elsa
>>
I'm such
a fucking
cuddleslut
>>
>>7638000
his 9" mighty dong can service you both
>>
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>>7637980
looks like bill clinton at the inauguration
>>
>>7637994
sass
do you use discord :3
>>
>>7638010
Robin I ordered more ket

>>7638011
W-wew but I don't want poly stuff
We'll just get a double sided dildo~
>>
>>7637915
i bet you're from /r9k/
>>
STABBING PAIN, BREASTS

DYING
>>
>>7638031
I am from /r9k/ am I a tranny because of those views or do I hold those views because I'm a tranny I am really confused and want to stop this
>>
>>7637993
i was changing clothes

and when i pulled down my pants and looked at my frangipanties, i got bad genital dysphoria

i wont give you all the details because i can't explain it in a non-tumblr/meme way but i don't feel good
>>
pls post medium length hair styles ;_;
>>
>>7637930
>Women have it harder in life
D R O P P E D
>>
>>7638036
QUICK GET A BOY TO MASSAGE THEM FOR YOU!
>>
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>>7638036
they just get bigger!
>>
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>>7637930
how do people still think this?
>>
>>7638045
>Having /r9k/ beliefs.
Fucking lel.
>>
>>7638036

Have you been doing your lymphatic massages? :(
>>
>>7638022
Sass #1216
>>
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>>7638064
TELL ME HOW BEFORE I EXPLODE
>>
>>7638056
Because I've personally done empirical research into this topic you nincompoop. Of course a chaser has /r9k/ beliefs though.
>>
>>7637915
I used to think that most guys only act as masculine as they do because of social pressure, and that girls were more free to be themselves, so in that way I did think women had it easier.

In retrospect, it's a little surprising I didn't figure out I was trans earlier.
>>
>tfw bf bites your nape
>>
>>7638024
Enjoy destroying your bladder
>>7638057
Explain how women are oppressed in the West. Protip: compliments are not oppression.
>>
>>7638075
yes yes
'research' that you arent citing or referencing, just claiming that it exists

im sure calling the opposing opinion '/r9k/ beliefs' will definitely help your argument
>>
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>>7638038
>mfw Anna gets real
>>
Day 2 of being on a full dosage

When do I turn into a real girl
>>
>>7638071
see >>7638049
>>
>>7638057
>having tumblr beliefs
>>
boobs feels great when youre high
i just wish i had a cute girl or fem guy to make out with heavily rn

>>7638024
nice
wish i had a regular connect
>>
>>7638069

Nice trip Sass!

I hope you're having a lovely day :3
>>
>>7638082
>Enjoy destroying your bladder
I sure will!

>>7638087
Please help I am indeed being serious
>>
>>7638091
but that's gay
>>
>>7638039
>frangipanties
and that's why we love you frangi.
>>
>>7638104
>tfw another tranny drugs herself to death
Sad.
>>
>>7638036
oh no

what's wrong nim
>>
>>7638111
first

maeve
>>
>>7638093
learn to buy online is what I propose

>>7638110
I am pretty pathetic, I know this

>>7638109
It's cute isn't it
You shoulda seen em~
>>
>>7638112
MY BREASTS ARE GOING TO KILL ME
>>
>>7638093
>cute girl or fem guy
>not wanting a big strong man at least 15 years older than you to pin you down by your arms and love you tenderly
gay
>>
>>7638111
rip ;~;7
>>
>>7638119
why though
>>
>>7638106
whats gay about a bro helping another bro work out a stitch he has in his pecs?
>>
>>7638123
but thats who maeve is
>>
>>7638071

Breast massage for growth on YouTube. Most of the vids are the same technique, there was an eastern medicine one that gets you to locate certain nodes, which I feel helps, but who knows :P
>>
>>7638123
>not even maeve
damn, that's pretty cold, anon
>>
>>7638090
idk it hasn't worked for me yet
>>
New Thread
>>7638129
>>7638129
>>7638129
>>7638129
>>
>>7638138
i am pretty straight
>>
>>7638118
im too a retard
plus ot got money to throw away on getting ripped off like ive seen people get irl

>>7638120
but estrogenised skin and squishy bobs tho
>>
>>7638131
they hurt a lil
>>
>>7638109
H-Hehe, thanks!

today i wore striped ones to get a reaction from Anna
>>
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>>7638132
i guess it's not that gay if you put it that way
>>
>>7638152
>mfw I actually gave you a reaction too
>>
>>7638136
Hey nim to fix your boobs take a warm bath (not too hot) with some lavender oil and gently massage them clockwise on your right and anti-clockwise on your left, then when you get out of the bath have a glass of ice cold water and lie flat on your back for like half an hour
That usually stops my bobs from killing me
>>
>>7638154
>started
crammed in closet right now unfortunately
>>
>>7638150
i hope they get better!
>>
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>tfw you find an old photo of yourself at 18
>tfw you had zero potential
>tfw no time was wasted and no guilt because it was never possible anyway
>tfw comforting nihilism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2BuJJIVicY
>>
>>7638229
AMY SHUT UP
YOU CANNOT HAVE GAINED POTENTIAL AND YOU HAVE IT NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
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>>7638229
dont believe you
stop being silly Amy
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>>7638238
I feel better when things are outside my control.
I Wasn't making a repression post.

>>7638241
I could prove you wrong but I don't want you to throw up
>>
>>7638292
Oh good
>>
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>>7638292
your boyfriend is going to be making sure you take your hrt and then blow raspberries on your tumtum to make sure you actually swallowed them
>I could prove you wrong but I don't want you to throw up
dont believe u
>>
>>7638138
Depends on the source. One source says a little under a third, another 70%. USTS 2015 said only 21% overall, but then they had lots of choices.
>>
>>7638319
I love him so much ;-;
>>
>>7638101
Basic gave it to me, but I sort of accidentally rekeased it to public knowledge one day
>>
http://www.barenecessities.com/fashion-forms-nubra-ultralite-backless-wire-free-bra-16846_product.htm?pf_id=FashionForms16846&search=34B
how the fuck do you put this on? I'm so confussed.
>>
>>7636755
right all the way
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