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School Edition

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
• Discord: https://discord.gg/0jCp5pochww4UBCv

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>>7279683
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First
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sup estrogen elves?
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If you don't hear of me again assume I burned down my entire flat while attempting to cook mushrooms after not sleeping for 40 hours.
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>>7280491
>after not sleeping for 40 hours.
iktf, can you eat without cooking?
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>>7280491
omg mushrooms are sooo delicious, would almost outweigh the discomfort of having been awake that long
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>>7280497
why did they let a woman in combat?
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>body from front looks fine
>Body from side looks fine
>Body from behind looks like shit even though my butts good
Y
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>>7280504
>body looks like shit from all sides
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>7280506
S A M E
A
M
E
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>>7280501
She was a cocky slut that needed to be taught a lesson.
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IMPORTANT QUESTION
How do I pee? Every time I pee sitting down it doesn't all come out and makes a mess when I stand up, even if I shake a little and wipe.
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>>7280508
it's ok emi we can cuddle with the lights off
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WE LOVE TRIPS!
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Morning everyone
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>>7280511
Is this a serious question?
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>>7280512
No lewd shit okay.

>>7280515
Sup my Swedish friend?
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>>7280515
hi
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>>7280509
>ywn play a metroid game where you are coupled up with a superior male by the patriarchy and have to perform your wifely duties.
this is why video games don't get any respect
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>>7280513
some are damn cute
some look like aliens
good ol mtfg
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>>7280518
YES.
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>>7280520
Hello my aussie friend
How are you today?
>>7280521
Heyo
Hows your day?
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>>7280522
yeah
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>>7280523
Which ones are cute frog?

Which trannies would you slammy?
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>>7280523
frog am i cute
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>>7280524
You're an idiot.
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rare kit

t. anon
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why are so many indie devs so fucking cute omg
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>>7280532
Not what I asked
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>>7280533
That's not Kit but I can imagine her looking something like that when she passes.
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>>7280526
I suppose I'm okay, I just had a couple of drinks with dinner just then so that was interesting. I just want school to be over though ;_;
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>>7280533
Nice
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>>7280526
I woke up early because the floor got much less comfy for unknown reasons
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>>7280534
edie am i cute enough to be an indie dev
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>>7280541

no but the cute indie devs are all men so
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>>7280533
Hey, I know this person. Sort of. We had interacted briefly before she came out and transitioned, which is really weird to me because I had yet to come out and transition either.
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>>7280535
I just squat on the toilet (at home) although depending on how much you weigh that might be a bit risky
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>>7280546
okay brandon
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>>7280544
do you mean that as in no im not cute or no because I'm not a man
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>>7280537
Ok what kind of drinks did you get?
>>7280540
Why not sleep in bed?
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>>7280535
You're funny.
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>>7280548
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>>7280553
wtf
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>>7280534
hey bb girl ;)
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>>7280550
I don't have one I can use
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>>7280553
Do you think any of the trips in the collage look good edie? Besides yourself ofcourse.
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>>7280533
thats cornflakes ya butt

>>7280530
aw you look so sleepy

>>7280528
i think the trip emma's slammable and loveable
idk i'm not gonna list cutes cause i'll hurt those who arent super cute in my mind
i'll admit that the robin pic is funny, though
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>>7280550
Just two midoris, they were pretty nice.
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>>7280493
>>7280494
I survived cooking.
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>>7280555
>>7280558

>mfw

>>7280556

n-no
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>>7280562
good girl, now go to sleep
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>>7280555
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Morning girls
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edies cyberbulling me help
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>>7280564
God I wish. After I finish this schoolwork (almost done!) I have to hand over a physical copy to the teacher besides the digital copy I upload to the university's site. So I'm gonna have to travel all the way to westminster city print this trash, hand it over to the teacher and come back before I can take a nap.
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>>7280560
I just ran out of cider :/
I should buy some more
>>7280557
What why?
>>7280566
Morning Basic <3
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>>7280569

i am not
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>>7280569
>Asks if cute
>Gets wrong answer
>Mad
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>>7280573
Damn that stinks. What else you up to btw?
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>>7280545
thats sort of weird, explain
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>>7280574
>>7280575
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>follow qt indie dev on twitter because i'm thirsty
>get a notification on twitter that he is liking my tweets
>mfw i may have a shot
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>>7280572
This is unrelated but it also makes me really upset that "city of london" can refer either to the real London (IE all of greater london, the 8 million people city) or to just the central borough that occupies the same place as the city did in the Middle Ages, which has a population of like 3000 people and is basically nothing but financial institutions.
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>>7280573
I don't like leaving this room and the bed I used to use makes me cry so I don't go in there either.
>>7280572
please don't drive, you have been awake long enough that it's dangerous to stand I think
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>>7280578
ur cute
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>>7280580
Is game design a meme degree?
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> tfw my 3ds was still not shipped
What have I done to deserve this?
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>>7280577
Ehh, I'm not really sure how much of her pre-transition online life she would like explained. We weren't like, friends or anything. Just hung around the same online circle and were personally involved with some big 4chan drama a year ago.
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>>7280578

i'm sry it's not like my opinion matters anyways

>>7280587

maybe..
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>>7280583
I appreciate the concern but I don't even own a bike, much less a car! I just go everywhere by tube and buses, the trip to the LSE is quite simple from where I live. For all of London's flaws I am quite content with public transportaton here.
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Good morning ;_;
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>>7280585
uwu
>>7280591
im cute
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>>7280576
Im just laying in bed trying to work up the courage to head out to my post box
>>7280583
Why does the bed make you cry?
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>>7280596

good!!
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>>7280596
would kiss if i knew how to kiss
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>>7280597
memories of the past are hard ;_;
>>7280593
just don't fall down okay
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>>7280597
What do you need to go to the post box for?
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>>7280590
vague as shit
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I'm sad. Can I stay here?
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>>7280602
Gotta [MIND THE GAP BETWEEN THE TRAIN AND THE PLATFORM]
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weird question but i have a big ... and i'm sick of doing the 5 pairs of underwear tranny version of pic related. shut up i know you all know what i'm talking about...

where can i reliably find undies that don't get really narrow between the legs?

nightmare mode: in a style that does't leave panty lines.

i live in the middle of nowhere so i have to shop online. usually online photos don't picture that area. so it's like a shot in the dark if i can tuck or not every time i buy undies RIP.
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>>7280606
you'd be right at home
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>>7280602
Oh im sorry :c
>>7280603
To check if my package of lewd has arrived
>>7280606
One of us
One of us
One of us
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>>7280609
Well I'm not trans. I just am depressed over other lgbt issues. You all are just kinder then the other generals.
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>>7280563
How did you find Shakira's profile pic? Also how do I get a bf
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why is my life so weird lol
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>>7280610
Lol I wish I were one of you. Sadly im not.
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>>7280610
Dildos I bet.
Also in Aus we call them Mail Boxes.
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>>7280615
You say that now but just stick around, you might be surprised
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Having a penis actually does make me less of a girl, doesn't it
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>>7280614
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>>7280614
Can I have some money?
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>>7280595
Morning anon

>>7280573
How are you?
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>>7280617
Lol i know im not trans. I just like you all because you are nice.
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>>7280615
Dont fall for the tranny meme
Flee while you can
>>7280616
Well vibrators to be specific
And handcuffs
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>>7280623
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>>7280533
i remember meeting cornflakes for a brief few minutes while i was making out with an acne riddled faggot
yuck
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>>7280626
Lewd mofo.
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How do I know when it's time to call it quits and admit I'm never going to successfully transition?

I'm so jealous of cis men who get to grow up and be men, no dysphoria or pain. They just are what they are and don't have a problem with it.
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Are any of you folks religious at all?
If so, what religion / denomination are you?
If not, which religion were you raised in?

I was raised Anglican Christian, became an edgy atheist in my teens. But now I'm seriously looking into Buddhism tbqh.
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>>7280628
wut
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>>7280629
I told you it was lewd
>>7280624
Im ok-ish
What about you basic?
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>>7280580
>attractive passers enjoying female privilege
must be nice to look like you
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i want to name my new cat Ugu
is that dumb?
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>>7280631
Raised catholic. Atheist now. Still feel some vague cultural attachment to catholicism and remember large parts of the standard catholic mass.
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>>7280623
>>7280627
interesting i guess but just remember she has a vagina and you don't sorry hon
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>>7280630
after ffs and years of hormones i imagine you'd be able to feel more certain
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>>7280633
That pale guy literally got no ass
Is this even possible?
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>>7280627
tranny vs. hot dude
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>>7280633
thats me
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Stalin did nothing wrong, proletariat revolution now!
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>>7280614
>$420
Now that's gangsta.
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>>7280644
stalin sucks
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>>7280639
Not sure I like the idea of blowing all that money just to find out I still don't pass.
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>>7280646
Counter-revolutionaries will be executed.
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>>7280646
t. Kulak
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i don't think i'm tucking right
my testicles are super pronounced
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Name one successful example of socialism.
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>>7280650
Stop cry
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>>7280654
kill yourself american
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>>7280654
National Socialism. ;)
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>>7280657
>successful
it resulted in you, that's a societal and cultural failure by itself
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>>7280633
Aw cute. Kit seems like a nice girl.
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in my culture it's rude to not tell a girl she is pretty so why don't you tell me so?
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>>7280620
>>7280621

n-no

>>7280635

i'm not attractive or a female doe
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>>7280647
>frankenstein
forgot about the money,
you'll always look off and it won't only gets worse with time
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>>7280650
>>7280651
you suck

>>7280655
gross
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>>7280657
>socialism
Why?
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>>7280657
Kys eurofag
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>>7280665
Thinking of just repressing until 30 and then killing myself.
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>>7280657
>>7280668
>Why
I meant how.

>>7280663
But why?
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>tfw no posadist trans gf to worship socialist UFOs with and discuss the merits of nuclear annihilation of the entire human race
why live
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>>7280672

if i gave you money then i would have less money for myself and i gotta buy christmas gifts and stuff ;-;
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>>7280624
hello basic, did you get the boylust out of your system for a few days?
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>>7280654
The Soviet Union, North Korea, China, Kampuchea.

All upstanding nations. All did nothing wrong.
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My manager bro punched my arm the other day and it hurt soooo bad
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>>7280676
>Soviet Union
Explain to me how that didn't fail.
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>>7280630
being a man IS suffering
there is no default happiness
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i'm sad because i'm not a girl
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>>7280677
thats a hate crime
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>>7280675
Jlaw is such a bitch
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>>7280680
Yup
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>>7280634
I'm ok too

>>7280675
I don't have boy lust
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How do I make it all stop? Nothing is enjoyable.
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>>7280689
I wish I knew
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>>7280689
xanax with a vodka chaser
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>>7280660
You don't even know who I am, I'm a new trip.
>>7280672
Well things are less socialist since the 90s but stuff like our telephone network, hospitals, post and rail infrastructure is still government owned.
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>>7280689
Wait 30 years and get a robot body
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>>7280678

You seen that Simpsons episode?
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>>7280681
It's not funny it was like two days ago and my arm is still bruised and sore
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>>7280688
>i dont have boylust
All your yaoi tells another tale
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>>7280691
I really need to be on an anti-depressant, I can't function anymore. I'll probably be fired once my boss realizes I just come into the office and sit there hating myself unable to concentrate.
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>>7280692
I thought the trains got privatized and that's why it's so expensive to go anywhere.
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>>7280692
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>>7280689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSw-6vmMRk
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>>7280692
Government owned doesn't mean Socialism. Fairly certain Socialism is workers owning the means of production. With govt. owned shit I could argue that Feudalism was Socialist.
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>>7280695
get ur fiance to kiss it better
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>>7280671
>love, being successful
there's more to life then being a tranny
I honestly don't think I'll make it

>>7280663
you're pretty, bitch
and fuglies like myself have to work that much more to be presentable,
but guys will hit on anything in a skirt or t shirt, kek
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>>7280699
The infrastructure is still owned by the government sort of. Network Rail.
>>7280700
>>7280702
And distribution dumbfuck.
>>7280702
Medieval absolute monarchies did not answer to the people therefore the "controlled by the people" part was missing.
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>>7280696
I don't hanna you should know me better than that
Boys are just interesting

>>7280704
Is it sad that I did?
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who else /no boyfriend/ here?
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>>7280707
>Is it sad that I did?
CUTE
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>>7280707
no if i had a finance i would want them to kiss me all the time
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>>7280702
Workers owning shit means nothing. Therr has to be a driving force behind it.
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>>7280706
>And distribution dumbfuck.
Why are you insulting me?
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>>7280708
Me. I don't even have a gf. Being bi is a fuckin' meme.
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>>7280708
me ;_;
kit you're gonna get a boyfriend easily
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>>7280708
;_;
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Help me.
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>>7280712
I'm feeling edgy.
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>>7280708
Shit sucks
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>>7280708
Me

>>7280709
>>7280710
(._. )
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>>7280716
typical woman
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>>7280712
Because Brits are worse than Australians

>>7280717
Go outside
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>>7280707
Boys shure are... Interesting
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>>7280711
Yeah but in the so called "socialist" countries like Britain have bourgeoisie owning the means of production.

>>7280717
Not really interested in talking to people who insult without justification.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfDCtAlBw2I
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>>7280717
Shakira being edgy and unlikeable? Stop the presses.
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>>7280723
Who said I was interested in talking to you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZiVWXjsaJg
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>>7280723
Foreigner workers are better because it makes the culture more diverse. Sorry you cant work in this restaurant because everyone only speaks polish

>>7280725
,_, Shakira come to soho tonight its gonna be fun and Another anon from here will meet up. I swear to god
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>>7280728
I'm referring to myself not to you but the fact that you are responding clearly shows some kind of interest.
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>>7280730


I SWEAR TO GID SHAKIRA WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU I LITERALLY KNOW THE OWNER OF A GAY BAR AND ITS GONNA BE.CHILL TONIGHT STOP STAYING IB YOUR ROOM AND GO OUTSIDE LOL
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>>7280730
Oryx I'm not an anon, I'm just a D-list trip.
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>>7280733
Oh right shit it was Nicotine! =^_^=. Shakira also lives in britbong jsnt she just pleasant? Also do not name drop places here unless you pm with Shakira and she wants to meetup with you
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>>7280731
Doesn't this logic also apply to you? You just said you aren't interested in talking to me yet you are still responding to me. What's up with that?
>>7280732
I'm going to visit my aunt today. I'm busy.
>>7280733
>tfw B-list
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>>7280737
At 10 pm?
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>>7280738
Yeah why not?
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>>7280737
Yea I'm not interested in discussing the previous topic with you, I'm going to quit replying to you now anyways.
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>>7280739
It starts at 10 pm. Are you busy till then?
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>>7280722
Yeh
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>>7280740
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>tfw get sad when people fight itt even though this is 4chan and this is way less hostile than most of the website
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>>7280741
Yes
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goodnight /mtfg/
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>>7280745
Shakira. Stop being a cunt.
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Who are the A list trips?
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>>7280744
Yea but i just cant put my finger on whats so interesting about boys
Hmmm...
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>>7280750
Night Sheen
>>7280751
We've been through this before, If I'm a cunt why do you keep asking to meet me?
>>7280752
Like Kayla, Korra, Edie, Faye etc
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>>7280754
Korra is a fucking cunt.
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>>7280753
what about when boys put their finger on me
owo
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>>7280752
the biggest drama queens
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>>7280750
this pic actually reminds me lots of my mum.
I hope that when I wake up the last 18 years of my life were a fever induced nightmare and I am a 14 year old cis girl and mum is alive
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>>7280752
Moap is S tier
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>>7280757
In me*
There i fixed it for you
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>>7280754
Because fuck you and stop being a British chav braprap bullshit I hate everyone that listens to rap music on the street and feel an extreme need to jab my pocket knife into their ears. You are better than that and quite intelligent.

>>7280756
Korra is still
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>>7280756
y tho
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>>7280762
o//////o
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>>7280628
and didn't you say cornflakes doesn't pass to everyone? keep you comments to yourself
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>>7280765
"rare kit
t. anon"
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>>7280765
For what she did to Kit.
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>>7280759
>tfw you're a man even in your dreams
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>>7280766
uwu
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>>7280587
>biggest media industry in the world
>meme degree
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>tfw I have no dreams nor path to follow in this big world and can feel the weight of the endless possibilities on my shoulders while I try to transition in the desperate attempt that it would help me avoid getting my soul crushed by life itself but what I’d actually love to do is stop struggling and let myself die and embrace the emptyness completely
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>>7280753
It's a mystery desu

>>7280770
Same
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>>7280768
>>7280769
should I hate Korra now too? I like Kit
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>>7280770
>tfw you have no dreams
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>>7280772
I guess all movie goers are famous celebrities and not cult worshipping normies
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>>7280774
like
what even ARE boys?
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>>7280763
I listen to rap music on the street? The fuck?
Oryx, you have other friends, like that FTM and this gay bar apparently, why not just hang out with them instead of constantly pestering me? This is getting tiresome, can't you just leave me alone please?
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I ran out of coffee tonight.
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>>7280781
time for meth
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>>7280774
Thats very lewd you know
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>>7280778
Idgi
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I sleep on my back with a large king sized pillow laying semi on top of me while I cuddle it. I pretend it's somebody cuddling me.
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>>7280780
I was venting my frustration and people who are chavs and think theyre all gangsta hence the rap music. Also its getting tiresome here you cry about not passing when your profile pic looks okay. Stop being a cunt to everyone here.
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>>7280784
Its not about a degree its about honning a skill and building connections. A liberal society is a lonely society start a family fuck over the population capacity just to build a legacy.
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>tfw think boobs have grown.
wew.
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>>7280779
Exactly
That's what I've been saying for years
What's their deal? What are they even doing?

>>7280783
What?
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>>7280786
That picture is heavily angled
>Stop being a cunt to everyone here.
You're not my mum, if you don't like what I say why not filter me?
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>>7280790
I will never know this feel
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>>7280776
Korra took a screep cap of an unsee that an anon posted of Kit and reposted it so its stuck on the archieves. Although its not a big deal as most are making it out to be, it sort of shows you her nature that she would drop trip and repost it.


It wasn't a super horrible thing but it displayed that she definately is capeable of some shadey shit. Avoid her.
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>>7280485

>Out to family for three+ years.
>They kicked me out of home and I live alone.
>Father randomly texts me a video link to a song called "father and son" by cat stevens, and tells me he's thinking about me.
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>>7280789
the degree gives you both connections and helps you get some base skills.
Any good university will put a focus on handing their students good connections.
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>>7280792
>What's their deal? What are they even doing?
Why aren't they rubbing up against me, these are all important questions
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>>7280792
The picture was very lewd
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>>7280784
repression is killing me.
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>>7280797
moko?
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>>7280799
Hmm
I've never thought that before

>>7280800
WHAT
Is this Lewd too?
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>>7280793
Because I am not a fucking ostrich and you live in the same city as me. We never even met and you act all high and mighty yet never wore a dress to Hammersmith College. You're lucky you even have your mother, mine is only here for a week then gone for another 8 months. And oh, let me tell you about all the poor souls who are fearful of their mithers, Shakira. Go outside

>>7280798
Alumni? Not in the west. Unis are about making money and filling in gaps. Free lancers are the ones who work for Mattel and PigeoNation
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>>7280796
How do you know it was Korra if she dropped trip?
>>7280797
My mum kicked me out in 2011, it was completely unrelated to me being trans, she had some new partner that I didn't get along with. I didn't speak to her for ages but she kept asking to talk so I decided to forget about what she did and talk to her again. I haven't forgiven her per se because I've never gotten an apology but I just forgot it because hate isn't good. So my advice to you is if they want to make amends and are otherwise nice then you may as well go along with it.
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>>7280806
Her IP was all over the image. And then she admitted it was her.
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>>7280794
Sure you will.
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>>7280804
Yea just abit
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Yet some still think Korra is a great person
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>>7280804
>Hmm
>I've never thought that before
right?! these thinks need studying
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>>7280806
Im sorry Shakira. Just stop being mean and be braver..
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>>7280809
Oh no I had no idea
What about this?

>>7280812
Idk anon that sounds new and scary
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>>7280808
are they bigg?
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>>7280815
Small but I swear they've gotten bigger.
>>
Hey /mtfg/ if theres this friend you have but you don't want to be friends anymore so you ignore her, make excuses, give dead replies and hope she gets the message to avoid hurting her feelings but she doesn't get the message and keeps trying to talk to you, what do you do?
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>>7280816
how many months on hrt?
>>
wat u doin mtfg
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>>7280818
3.
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>>7280811
KORRA DINDU NUFFIN
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>get on the bus
>"what'll it be for you, sir?"
E V E R Y
T I M E

even before I speak
even in full makeup and girl clothes
even at 13.5 months HRT
I have never been gendered female by a stranger I'm not out to
am I the biggest hon in the general?
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>>7280820
nice nice
>>7280819
being unfulfilled
>>7280817
i think hurt feelings are inevitable here
how come you don't wanna be friends anymore?
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>>7280823
and btw I'm not wearing makeup in these pics; I don't usually have visible shadow when I go out these days
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>>7280809
why are you posting all these gay images now?
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>>7280807
Wow I thought she was alright. Poor Kit.
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>>7280822
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>>7280817
What kind of friend?

>>7280823
Correct them
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>>7280823

does it matter what ppl gender you tho

>>7280824

y come
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>>7280807
>And then she admitted it was her.
can you link the post?
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>>7280819
Worried about moving
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>>7280485
Mfw girl doesn't know I've had an orchiectimy and "I cum in her". Starts freaking out think she'll get pregnant.
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>>7280831
I cry when I hear old name and stuff
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>>7280829
Why is it that whenever a minority or a woman does something wrong it's because of their race or gender but when a white male does something wrong it's because he's individually an asshole?

And on a separate note why is Native Indian tribalism widely revered by Western media yet African tribalism widely derided? It's literally the same thing
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>>7280831
>transition
>you shouldn't worry about what people gender you as

?
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>>7280830
I don't want to be that tranny
especially not with my literal retard voice

>>7280831
not directly, but the fact that I'm consistently gendered male still reinforces the knowledge that my perception of how I look (i.e. oh god oh god kill me now I'm a fucking lantern-jawed disgrace) is correct and not the result of poor self-perception; I do get physical dysphoria over my masculine traits.
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>>7280823
I'm still mystified as to why you get misgendered. I see a girl.
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>>7280839
she's referring to the fact that both of us are NB
I still get physical dysphoria though, big-time
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>>7280832
There was a whole thread about it yesterday. Glorious drama
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>>7280844
Link?
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>>7280844
yeah just link to something where korra said she did it
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>>7280841
lol nobody else does
my best friend, who is non-hugboxy, says I'll definitely need FFS to have a chance at passing and she's sorry my family is so poor.
we do drugs together
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>>7280823
Idk with hipsters these days with their long hair and male gynocimastia on the rise it's hard to tell who's a tranny and who's a hipster with man boob's.
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>>7280843
NB doesn't exist
GTFO tumblr trash
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>>7280851
xDD
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>>7280851
dickhead
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>>7280846
:3 hey! Glad you're back!
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>>7280840
How else will you be confident. Dont be afraid
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>>7280851
I used to think it was tumblr but I've seen quite a few 4channers come out and say they're NB so it must be legit if even 4chan is admitting to it. Also thinking about it it makes sense, what's so impossible about being born not feeling like either gender?
>>7280854
The only person lol. Thanks anyway <3
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>>7280838
>>
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/censor-non-conventional-sex-acts-online-internet-pornography?CMP=fb_gu

TORY FUCK SHIT BASTARD WANKSTAIN DICKHEAD CRETIN TWAT CUNTHEADS

FUCK THE CUNTS, I'M GONNA TEAR THEIR FUCKING EARS OFF THEIR HEADS WITH MY BARE HANDS IF THEY PUT THIS INTO PRACTICE
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>completely fallen in love with sweater dresses
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>>7280859
give tldr
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>>7280835

why?

>>7280837

my old name fucks with me sometimes but otherwise i'm kind of w/e about shit idk

>>7280839

this >>7280843

>>7280840

i mean just because you may look more masculine now that doesn't mean you're inherently ugly or something either

>>7280851

it does exist. i am non-binary. idk what there is to understand lol
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>>7280853
TRASH
R
A
S
H

>>7280857
>4chan
>legit
Oh I'm laffin
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>tfw you have a big penis and huge testes even after 3 months of HRT.
I don't know if they're big compared to the median but, they're too big for me

>>7280857
;) <3
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>>7280859
They already banned producing porn with "non conventional" sexual acts in Britain, it was only a matter of time before they banned viewing it. Also they passed a huge internet surveilance bill not too long ago. This country's kind of Bad.
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>>7280847
>>7280846

here

>>7275316
>so I saved it and asked kit if that was really her the next time she came on mtfg since a couple of pics had been floating around
she said

when if you look here

http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/search/image/XHuoAeJtL_nMPx4gUcK_mQ/

through the image hash search the first time she posted it, she said

Rare kit
t. Anon

so, she dropped trip to post kit's picture maliciously
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>>7280860
do you at least tuck?
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>>7280860
>wearing clothes
Y u do dis?
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>>7280862
>takes large dose of hormones
>wears lots of make up to appear feminine
>has hair styled feminine

Yeah I don't think so
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>>7280838
first reason is probably racism/patriarchy/white supremacy stuff idk you can probably find some very good explanations elsewhere

second one idk really but that is interesting i never really thought about that before
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>>7280866
Its not that big
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>>7280860
hey Kayla how are your kidneys?
also post newest pic
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>>7280862
I'm sad all the time and hearing anything like that makes it worse, I'm scared nowadays
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>>7280836
Was it elanna?
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>>7280873
xDD
>>
hey girls
>>>/int/67772567
>>>/int/67772575
>>>/int/67772595
you're all very welcome to join us
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>>7280837
>>7280862
>Tfw your male cousin and his wife had a daughter and named her your chosen girl name.
I'm thinking I should change my name because we both will have the same firat and last names and I got shit ton of dyaphoria thinking there's going to be a "real" woman with my name living in the world.
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>>7280870
Yes, i do the double pair of panties method and i wear tight blue jeans with it, i want more though since its going to be a chilly fall and winter
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>>7280873

i'm currently on 10mg estrogen shots once a week, and that's it. femininity isn't exclusive to women nor is makeup or hair.
why does it bother you so much that i identify this way and feel happier doing so lol
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>>7280881
its 4am elann is hopefully sleeping she needs her rest
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>>7280884
UPDATE
come to the new thread instead
>>>/int/67772646
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>>7280862
Got into a fight in my neighborhood and mom is scared now so she's told me I need to move to California with my aunt and uncle
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>>7280888
have you ever fucked that teddy? be honest
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>>7280866
Oh and I don't intend to stay, this place is detrimental to my mental health.
>>7280859
Wtf why? They don't even give a reason, not even the usual waek attempt at correlating it with rape, just an assumed "muh morals", Fuck the Tories.
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>>7280838
For your second question, if it's anything like in South America, natives are viewed through the lens of the noble savage who occupied these lands before the white man conquered them (in south america due to race mixing natives are also seen as some kind of primitive precursors to The Proud Mestizo Race), whereas Africans are viewed simply as foreign savages. I think ultimately both views are kind of built on racist thinking but manifested in different ways.
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>>7280861
the cunts are banning viewership of ~non-conventional~ sex acts
including such evils as watersports and facesitting
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>>7280838
African Tribalism is still a thing. Native American culture is dead and its heritage pigdeoned. Western media, do you mean American or Europe? Be specific.
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>>7280887
...use bf to stay warm?
Not rly rocket science
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>>7280862
I don't just look 'more masculine' though, I look *male*
you get physical dysphoria of a kind too, surely you know that that feels bad and 'self-love' isn't enough to carry the day?
>>
>tfw have been reading french postmodern authors for sociology for six years now
>still find them night-undecipherable bullshit
why do pomo frogs write so badly, god.
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>>7280868
the first time it was posted it had a filename as if it were downloaded from 4chan though
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>>7280867
yeah I was pissed off when they did that too
now they're literally putting kinksters like yours truly on the same level as pedos
fuck the tories, next person I hear say they proudly voted tory in the general election gets their face inverted with a medicine ball
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>>7280796
pls, all trips drop trip
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>>7280893
they're evil cunts, that's all the reason they need
another 15,000+ preventable deaths forecast for this winter due to fuel poverty
we are living under a fascist regime, even more than the USA atm
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>>7280888
10 mg is still a fair amount considering that is the usual dose most mtfs take per week.
>makeup
Depends on the makeup. In your case you wear it in a feminine manner

>hair
Defiantly exclusive to men and women. You don't see men get feminine styles

Your voice is also in feminine range
Gender is a social construct
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>>7280886

change it to somethin else then!

>>7280891

l m a o
I SEE

>>7280892

no he's my best friend

>>7280900

i mean i get physical dysphoria with my nose and brow bone but then i remember that my nose is the same as an iranian womans and that i am an iranian woman and that my brow isn't even that bad and everything is fine lol
for me constantly reminding myself of the reality of my situation as well as like doing my makeup extra nice and everything really helps.
there's obviously days where nothing at all helps and i just hate the way i look all day but i can alleviate it by doing things that express my love for myself.
like eatin food i really like, or buying something nice, or flirting with a boy or just leavin my house in general idk. but i don't think that necessarily has to do with social dysphoria
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>>7280889
I hope so too
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>>7280904
i drop trip to lewdpost at other trips all the time
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>>7280905
my favorite tory moment this year was the leak that showed they genuinely have no actual brexit plan. brexit means brexit indeed.
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>>7280904
I stop trip to sad post things that I don't want people to know about me
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>>7280897
First of all you sound like you're insinuating that Native Americans are better then Africans because they voluntarily ditched tribalism. That's obviously not the case they were forcefully "civilized" And second of all yes it does still exist, there are reservations and tribal groups all over the USA and Canada to this day.
>>7280905
I wouldn't say it's as bad as the USA, after all our deputy Prime Minister isn't Mike "electrocute the fruit" Pence, but it's pretty shit yeah.
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>>7280902
she admitted to screencaping it and posting it
>>
Tfw 35" chest and 42" shoulders

Fucking kill me
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>>7280904
sometimes i drop trip to cry
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>>7280908
>no he's my best friend
*has that teddy ever fucked you?
Are you afraid of putting a strap on on it because it would make your relationship complicated?
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>>7280906

a fair amount is not high lol
idk what kind of makeup ppl do that isn't feminine but ok
i've seen guys with my hairstyle so idk
femininity is not exclusive to women in general. and seeing as my hormone levels have always been more female anyways...........
like i know the way that i look, but that's not the only thing that shapes who i am. i understand that i'm more of a woman than a man or w/e and i'm fine with being called a woman or she/her because literally everyone has been doing that for years without me even asking.
your idea of my gender is a social construct, but the reality of inherent gender is not socially constructed.

>>7280918

>Are you afraid of putting a strap on on it because it would make your relationship complicated?
yes ._.
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>>7280901
>Nit having a healthy doae of Foucault and Derrida to help you digest french pomo

"If this work seems so threatening, this is because it isn't simply eccentric or strange, but competent, rigorously argued, and carrying conviction." J. Derrida

>>7280908
But it's my name I feel like my name now! Lol
Do you have suggestions knowing what u know about me?
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>>7280823
>cashiers gender you correctly
>tfw don't now if they are hugboxing
its a no win situation being trans

so do non binaries take both fem and male pronouns?
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Anyone else really scared about breast growth? I'm super paranoid that they'll grow too quick and I'll still look like a dude completely
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>>7280920
I've been reading Foucault for years, since like first year of my bachelor's, and actually I find him pretty digestible. It's almost all other french pomos that drive me mad.
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why would you even say that gender is a social construct when if that were true trannies would never go to the lengths they do to transition medically and otherwise lol
the desire to present female comes from your inherent female identity, not from what society tells you that you are.
although society make dictate what is more or less feminine and trans women may gravitate towards some of those things to "fit in" more
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>>7280919
Do you have another teddy you can use as a fuckbuddy? ever considered that you're friendzoning and in essence cucking that teddy? maybe he wants more, but can't express it from his unmoving, fluffy prison
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>>7280925
Bam! For all the idiots who say Edie is nothing more than fashion and make up you just got a view of how intelligent this woman is
>>
>>7280925
Society has rules one must follow
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>>7280925
I think ultimately trying to find a 'cause' for dysphoria is a fruitless search anyway, I don't think things as complex and granular as dysphoria, homosexuality, etc. can be monocausal. Some people say their dysphoria is only social, some like you say it's something more inherent, I don't see any reason to not believe both.
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>>7280928
>Edie
>intelligent
Ok sass, time to stop riding edie's dick for once
>>
>>7280914
The great expansion was a difficult time and just a trade war. Progress can't be beat, yet Africa has trouble comprehending this. Its why LGBT are non existent because of voodoo superstition and eat da poopoo
>>
>>7280925
who are you responding to tho?
>>
>>7280911
my favourite was when Age UK revealed 40,000 preventable winter deaths from last winter as a result of fuel poverty-induced hypothermia and mould-related illnesses

or maybe when it turned out the state coroner had sent a report to Ian Duncan Smith warning him that hundreds of people had died *during* their ESA assessment or travelling to it because of the physical strain, recommending immediate changes, and that Smith had sat on the report and ignored it for years
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>>7280925
>the desire to present female comes from your inherent female identity, not from what society tells you that you are.
I can't disagree with this
but doesn't it open the door to non trans people
some cd's go to great lengths to pass like trans do, but cd's are ok with being a guy unlike trans

but would you put both - cd's and trans - under the same larger umbrella?
>>
>Tie up noose this morning
>Not sure what to attach it to
>Curtain hangers actually seem sturdy enough when I pull on them should do
>Attach noose to curtain hangers and stand on ladder a bit before deciding to go through with it
>Jump down and just rip the curtain hangers out of the wall

why can't this nightmare end
>>
>>7280933
It's often presented as a poorly explained meme but a lot of Africa's problems are the fault of the west. It's not helpful when you have leaders who want to progress their countries like Thomas Sankara and then te west stages a coup. Poverty breeds superstition, and unequal international relationships breed poverty.
>>
>>7280485
It's been over a week since the package shipped mail from QHI. How long does it usually take? I'm kinda afraid it got stopped by customs. I ordered for 280€ to germany...
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>>7280922
that won't happen and even if it did you can wear like big sweaters or something to help hid it
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>>7280932
Come on Angie, Edie being smart AF doesn't me it takes anything from you, I think you're smart AF too, in fact, too smart for your own good
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>>7280938
Your examples prove that they're evil, my example proves that they're stupid. So that's a very great combination, a country ruled by profoundly immoral imbeciles.
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>>7280914
In a lot of ways the UK is under a more actively fascist regime than the USA at the moment, it's just not geared specifically towards LGBT people / black people so it's less recognisable and hidden under a facade of British respectability. We're laughing at 'dem zany yanks' while here at home things have actually slid backwards even more than over there in the last 6 years.
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>>7280941
>the west has been gone for a hundred years and somehow its their fault
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>>7280920

whaaaaaaaat about........... lena?

>>7280927

no ;_; he's my only big teddy. i don't think he wants to fuck me, anon...........

>>7280929

just because society at large tries to tell you how you should be living and what you should be doesn't mean you have to conform to it
society was racist and sexist af a century ago, and that was asinine. there is a reason society and cultural norms evolve.

>>7280930

well in this case tho it is pretty accurate to say it's solely derived from your inherent gender identity lol
because the social aspects etc come out from how social constructions of femininity and profiling conflict with that inherent identity, right?
dysphoria is exacerbated by these things but if society alone caused them they would never have become a problem to begin with.
because everyone would just be able to roll with it and be exactly what others believe they should be.

>>7280939

i mean no? if you're saying that transgender as a label specifically means a deviation from expected gender norms then i guess maybe
but transgender should more or less imply a conflict of gender identity with sex and social situations, and how that psychologically affects someone.
clothing and makeup and everything shouldn't be gender specific anyways.
the diff between a CD and a trans person is that one is fueled by gender dysphoria which is a dissociation between your mind and body.
the other just wants to wear things that aren't specifically meant for their gender.
it's a desire bred from preference. dysphoria is not really preferential in of itself, and even if you would say it is, there's actual trauma that occurs that fuels that desire.
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>>7280929
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>>7280948
>what is neocolonialism
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I just farted, I'm a gross man
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>>7280941
Did you see Empire of Dust? Also seeing how Japan got fucked over in WW2 and are a country of extremely limited resources many of us praise their animation in a cult like way. Racism etc etc...

>>7280947
I fucking hate this country
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hello where are the butthole pics
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>>7280945
Come on Sass, many people believe that their are only two genders because that is how society has always seen it. You expect me to take NB and the 7000 other genders seriously?
Please
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>>7280949
>i don't think he wants to fuck me, anon...........
Tbh I don't think girls and guys can have entirely platonic relationships like that, he probably wants you but is too beta to ask.
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>>7280942
Took 14 days last time I ordered (from them shipping it), now its been 20 and its not here yet idk
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>>7280957

BUT HE'S A STUFFED BEAR
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>>7280954
www.goatse.cx
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>>7280959
racist
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>>7280951
https://youtu.be/A0C4_88ub_M
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>>7280945
it's funny how you see fake intellectuals like faye or kayla strut around like wannabe academics
but the reality is dollface is smarter and more experienced then both of them put together
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>>7280964
This. Also luck
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>>7280963
Will we infuse china with our values before they take over the world, or will democracy fall?
We have the strongest cultural virus, but not sure if it can stand up to the superior productivity of the yellow devil
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>>7280894
Another example is the West is constantly raving on about Machu Picchu because "zomg the stones slot perfectly together with no mortar!" Africans did the exact same thing 400 years previously with the Great Zimbabwe citadel yet in this case whites spent decades making up theories that Phoenicians or whatever somehow got that far south and built it instead of local blacks.
>>7280938
Are you on ESA or have the Tories taken that too?
>>7280947
You have a point actually, society has really turned on the poor and disabled.
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>>7280964
That's nice, Edie
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How do transgirls deal with the fact that some guys will only use you for their fetish?
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>>7280972
drinking
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>>7280972
find a guy who doesnt.
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>>7280908
>i mean i get physical dysphoria with my nose and brow bone but then i remember that my nose is the same as an iranian womans and that i am an iranian woman and that my brow isn't even that bad and everything is fine lol
unfortunately I have no such reasons to be reassured

my jaw is outside the range of any cis female apart from those with deformations such as acromelagy
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>>7280964
>tfw smart
>tfw wish i wasn't
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>>7280945
Sass, you can't claim to be something that doesn't exist nor can't claim to be something you don't look like
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>>7280970
I'm on ESA for the next 6 months but I was turned down for PIP, filed my appeal yesterday, and they're cutting ESA by £29 a week starting from next year (about a third)
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I'm glad I'm really dumb
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>>7280974
even when the pickings are slim?
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>>7280979
I bet you aren't dumb
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>>7280981
dunno, it really isnt that hard.
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>>7280983
sophieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>7280978
Why did they turn you down?
And fucking hell it was only like £100 a week and they are cutting that.
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friends what do I do I'm not very smart.
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>>7280956

ok well lemme try to explain this lol
the validity of non-binary identities, or at least some of them is actually more or less proven by trans men and women.
trans women feel more at ease with their gender when both social and personal aspects of their lives reflect womanhood.
like being gendered she/her and having more of a female appearance and body alleviates your dysphoria.
mostly because your brain is telling your body that it should be looking female, and that you should be growing as a female with female hormones etc
your dysphoria is basically charged by this need to feel comfortable in your body, and with how others see you because you see yourself as female even if amab.
non-binary dysphoria is similar, but different in that going too far in one direction either way on the binary exacerbates it.
i like having a small/flat chest and just a thin bod whether it has curves or not. that makes me feel more comfortable with me.
my mind has been telling me my whole life that i am just in the middle. my mom raised me gender neutral because of this.
people call me female and she/her all of the time, and i prefer that over he/him, but when i'm seen as a cis female i feel uncomfortable too.
being held to the standards that ya'll aim to be held to, or seen under ramp tf out of my dysphoria.
if i look too female i become very miserable and depressed. i don't recognize myself in the same way ya'll didn't recognize yourselves pre-transition.
i need to exist in the middle to be happy.
which i did for a long time until everyone decided i was a trans woman and told me that i "had to pick a side" and forced me into the binary.
but again without ya'll having dysphoria and proving that there is an inherent dissatisfaction with certain features and roles that can exist...
that of which spurs disassociation and dysphoria between your inherent identity and sex....... it'd make no sense. so thx for that
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>>7280969
You cant beat China
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>>7280974
>tfw cyba and Sophie enter thread
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>>7280983
you were pretty even before ffs tho
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>>7280956
I don't expect you to believe anything, you're free to choose. I do believe that NB is an umbrella term that captures the gray area of gender diversity, and for me this grey area is truth it's fact. It's sort of like a genetic gender kinsey scale. I don't understand what's complicated about believing this.

>>7280964
I'm not going to label anyone as an intellectual, Edie has smarts and she has the ability and drive to make things happen, this is a rare combination in people and I think that's whats awesome about her. And part of the reason why she shines.
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>>7280982
I actually am really stupid (._. )
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>>7280990
You can assimilate it though. Give them enough burgers and china stops being a bad thing, that's reality.
he who controls mtv controls the world.
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>>7280971
when I was new and just starting, I hated edie, but after awhile, you get to see how everyone is here and so my opinion changed
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Ok so I'm reading this thread about Korra reposting Kit's picture, she admitted it so case closed but my only question is how do we know what her IP is?
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>>7280989
tl;dr mah feelings trumps society
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>>7280993
There is feminine and masculine. Sex as a convept comes from procreation. Two genders
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>>7280995
Give them enough burgers and you develop little emperor syndrome
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>>7280998
someone looked it up and it was from the same town she lives in (like 20k people only)
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>>7280993
Ok
You can't claim
be something if you don't look like it. Examples: I can't claim to be black because I don't look like it or I can't can't claim to be female because I don't look like it
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>>7280998
imagine how you'd react if you got as much hate as korra does
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>>7280962

he doesn't even have a penis!!! he can't consent to sex because he's a stuffed animal!!!!!! i am not raping him ok

>>7280971

dat wasn't me, i don't really think that highly of myself anyways lol

>>7280975

idk i've def seen manlier cis women lol
but dysphoria isn't exactly logical so idk. just being as logical as you can helps sometimes.

>>7280998

it was from her area.

>>7280999

the argument you're using against nb identities is ironically similar to every argument used against trans women lol
idk if ya'll even recognize that
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>>7280987
despite the fact the DWP agree I'm too disabled to work at the moment, their PIP branch simultaneously believe my disabilities have no significant impact on my daily activities

I can't hold a pen
I can't unlock a door without bruising my hands
I can't open a bottle of water

they also said they didn't believe I have anxiety/depression because I didn't display physical distress, etc. at the assessment
even though I specified that I have an aspergers diagnosis and find it impossible to convey emotion visibly in the normal ways i.e. people get pissy that I seem so cheery at funerals
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i have not been sleeping well
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>>7280958
Where are from? Did you ever had problems with customs?
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>>7281012
I do try to be logical, especially these days, but when I still get gendered male *as often* as before HRT, and have never been gendered female, it leads me to believe that my usual assessment of how I look is indeed correct, i.e. that I look like a man and am not even seen as a trans person, let alone physically female
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Lynch Korra
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>tfw my barber sees my horrible back hair that grew back at lightspeed in 24 hours and mentions that it's a sign of super high testosterone.

After that he sold me some special concentrated shampoo from L'Oreal that's usually given to old people with hair loss ;n; I-I'm literally 18

WHY DO THESE EYES OF MINE CRYYY
DONT THEY KNOOW ITS THE END OF THE WOOOORLD
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>>7281020

well it's prob because of your voice if i'm being honest. like voice is realllllly important and that's prob the one thing setting you apart.
have you trained it at all since i heard it last??
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>>7281006
Ah I see.
I'm reading more and apparently Korra has been catfishing her as well
She's sketchy af
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>>7281029
wtf i hate Korra now
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>>7281026

get on an AA bby
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i wish i could post lewds to cultivate self-esteem from horny people on the internet
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>>7281028
Why encourage Robyn?
Shouldn't you be hating hons?
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>>7281035
Lewds.
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>>7281032
Just an AA? It would be the easiest and much easier for starting out, but does it have negative side effects when you only take an AA and no estrogen?
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>>7281037
Robin is cool
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> *ring ring*
> Open door
> Postman
> "are you Ms... (my mom)"
> "yes" :^)
Feels good
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>>7281002
What's your basis for this affirmation? Biology? Religion? Personal beliefs?
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If you're in the US, you should all go and sign up for ShopYourWay Rewards.
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>>7281040
Robin is a fool
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Cis girls make me hate myself
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>>7281028
in my discussions about passing/not passing I'm only talking about instances where I don't speak, I know my voice is fucked

remember I have this condition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBI_m6LDv0Y
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Hi slippery sneks and serpents
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>>7281038
o///o
>>7281048
>tfw cis girls probably hate themselves because basic is prettier than them
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>>7281037

if i'm being 100% honest here i've never hated hons lol
even in the groups i've been in where girls make fun of older transitioners who don't pass, they do it because what's funny is the complete delusion.
like the ones who say they've been on HRT for 20 mins and grew breasts, or the ones who act insane in public...
or the 48 year olds who post sissy stuff and want to dress up like an angsty 16 year old. that's what's funny. not their facial structure.
people can't help what they look like. even if i'm insulting someone on it, it's because we're arguing or fighting and i know it gets to them, not because i actually give af.
i could really give a shit about what someone looks or sounds like unless we're fucking.
at least if someone encourages robin she can improve and stop being as depressed in the threads. even if she can't control most of what happens to her she can control some of it.

>>7281039

if you're on only an AA for like .... 6-8 months or longer it can start to have a negative effect, but considering your age you'd be fine for at least a year.
obviously E would be good too after like a month or two of an AA but still. i'm js. at least suppress the T.

>>7281049

my bff from the uk has dyspraxia so i'm aware of it. she still trained her voice and stuff.
your voice is what will shape what people see when they look at you. if you look more masculine then speak with a female voice they will most likely gender you female lol
it's the same as gorgeous trannies who get gendered male the moment they speak.
the brain tends to try to piece together what it's hearing because gender is reflexive in nature.
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>>7281043
Societal. Nonbinary could exist and transgenderism could be a form of intersex in the brain, science just has not yet reached that point yet.
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>>7281039
no the negative side effects people freak out about only happen if you are on AA for like a year or more with no e

you will probably be more tired and sluggish tho
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i got called ma'am by a waitress the other day... was like the first time being called ma'am and it was weird cuz i don't look old enough for that
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>>7281049
Ugh why do British people always talk like they have shit in their mouths
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>>7281041
please do not lie to the nice postman
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>>7281049
He sounds like Alexander Jahans, do all British people sound like this?
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>>7281052
yeah but I'm still only talking about situations when I don't speak, I get gendered male and not gendered female in those situations too

also dyspraxia occurs in varying degrees, I know a friend who has it and can play the guitar okayish but can't remember their own name most of the time

in my case the hypotonia is severe and I can't even sit up straight for more than a minute without severe, lasting pain
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>>7281057
>>7281060
oh my god
lrn2read
literally a video of someone with a disorder that impairs their speech
that I linked
as an example of how said condition, which I also have, can impair voice training
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>>7281007
Why not? There are cis women who don't look the part and Michael Jackson could have claimed to be white if he dyed his hair.

I don't understand
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>>7281052
>bff from uk?
I know who it is
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>>7281052
>i've never hated hons
Didn't you spend months calling me a hon?
>>7281060
I don't sound like Alexander Jahans
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>>7281052
Thank. I have an appointment in 2017 with an endocrinologist, bet it'll convince her to give me E as well. Or not.

>>7281054
Thanks for the tip!

I'll try getting on an AA for a few months and then try to convince the endocrinoloist to get me on E as well.
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>>7281052
>not their facial structure
Edie, come on, I've seen the shit talking that goes on in ft (not so much) and tea time
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>TFW stretch marks from explosive growth during puberty and fat formation due to prescription drugs that effectively destroyed much of your body's integrity and appearance points
So much shit I need to address. I need to lose every single fucking bit of fat on my body to actually even get in a position where I can even think about dealing with these 17 year old pregnancy scars I have.

Fuck big pharma and fuck puberty.
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>tfw scared to read exactly how much of an ass I made of myself
I swear /mtfg/ is comfiest on lsd
Even though I get memed on even worse
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>>7281048
basic makes basic hate herself

stop being mean to basic, basic
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>>7281051
Lol
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>>7281061

i've met plenty of cis women who look manly and then speak and i'm like 'o ur a woman'
idu what you not being able to sit up straight has to do with your voice either
if being seen as a female is important to you in some way then you should be doing shit about it, not complaining and hoping HRT will fix u
cause in your pics you do look more female than male but if you have literally nothing going for you except that, you're going to be gendered male anyways

>>7281064

i bet u do

>>7281066

>months
you have the highest opinion of yourself i swear lol
i responded to your attacks against me by making you feel bad about yourself in those arguments to invalidate your opinions.
which were confirmed when you reiterated my comments in separate posts about yourself. when people make me feel bad i do the same to them. i know it's childish but i've still done it.
i don't actually care as to how attractive you are otherwise. it serves no benefit to me if you pass or not.

>>7281067

mmhmhm

>>7281069

again in instances where girls insult each other it's because they're trying to make one another feel bad, not because anyone actually cares lol
that's what reading is. it's not based in logic or anything. it's literally just trying to tear each other down.
which has subsided quite a bit in the groups over the years anyways, so
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>>7281063
Cause society will look at you funny
Would you claim this person is female even though they don't look like it
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>>7281029
She denies that. So far.
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>>7281072
Hi Anna, did you get the qhi confirmation email?
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>>7281077
So you admit to arguing with ad hominems? That's not cool Edie.
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>>7281077
Well I don't know many uk girls but I'm going to go with Georgia

>make others feel bad
But why?
You are in a group filled with full time women who should be there supporting each other, not tearing each other down
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Which trip would you catfish into loving you, mtfg?
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>>7281078
As every one will say yes vecause its 2016 its how you feel that counts
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>>7281077
>idu what you not being able to sit up straight has to do with your voice either
I have hypotonia
it's a complication that occurs in some cases of dyspraxia that means my muscles have a reduced state of tension
across my whole body
this affects physical tasks and it also affects my ability to control the muscles responsible for speech
that is my point
it's not a matter of effort, it's a matter of "I need general speech therapy from a professional speech therapist to stand a chance" which I am waiting to access but it's over a year's wait away here unless I had the money to pay to go private, which I don't

in addition, as I have already said like three times now, I don't pass even when I keep my mouth shut
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>>7281080
Hi anon
I don't need one, I won't be ordering anything from them anyway
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>>7281086
Feeling ms are for faggots who can't handle the truth
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>>7281084
I'd like to think I have standards.
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Whatever happened to Yume and Gem?
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>>7281088
you said otherwise last night
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>>7281070
i feel ur pain, the only puberty i rlly got was a increase to my height in a short amount of time that left huge stretchmarks all down my back that still haven't gone away ~4 years later. my body is so fucking stupid...
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>>7281084
wtf
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>>7281051
you're a dubs factory over on /int/

let's go shoot dice, make some money
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>>7281094
I know I didn't, anon
Only if someone gave me a billion dollars for it and I still definitely support that statement
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>>7281081

i've done both lol
half of the shit you were saying about me was an exaggeration as it was and it was nonstop. i wasn't exactly feeling down to earth about the whole situation.
even now you act like i just spent months on end dedicating all of this time to you when you were the last thing on my mind consistently until i saw you ranting about me.

>>7281083

the groups have become more of a community and support group than they were in the past.
but the basis for reading in trans communities has always been "if you can't handle us saying this shit to you then how will you deal with the world at large?"
which both creates a thicker skin as well as a plethora of feelings of inadequacy, so.... idk. it was what it was.

>>7281087

i'm pretty sure you can still find free avenues and exercises you can accomplish without the help of a professional speech therapist...
...because any professional is going to give you exercises and tasks to do when ur not with them in person........
and if you don't pass aesthetically then having a good voice is going to push what you have going to the next level........
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>>7281074
But basic is an awful worthless human being and should feel as such
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>>7281053
Lolni didn't get that you were posting in irony.

The thing is being in between genders will make other people uncomfortable because of societal norms. But that's like, their problem.
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>>7281093
Yume is out there somewhere, watching over all of us.
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>>7280673
iktf

>tfw no one to cuddle with while making fun of trotskyists and their newspapers
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>>7281108
>tfw no one to cuddle with while drinking hot cocoa to fight off frostbite
send help
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>>7281102
A community shouldn't be destroying itself. I understand that they want people to grow a thick skin but attacking others to where they end up self-harming isn't my idea of a community
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>>7281102
If you said it maybe 5 times over a period of months that's still "months". Has no bearing on your dedication. Anyway whatever I don't want to argue again.
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>>7281113

we've not really had a self-harm incident occur in the groups more than maybe a couple of times over the span of 5 years.

>>7281114

ok
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>>7281084
quid
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>>7281115
Or so you think but no one knows behind closed doors
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>>7281102
Edie give Shakira some pointers they are thinking of escorting too

>>7281114
D____D meet me at a club one day

>>7281105
We beed to get along. There can be no progress withiht unity
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>>7281084
I prefer to think of it the other way around: which trips wouldn't I catfish into loving me?
>exclude all cis male trips (drakeposter, cartman, bjorg until he transitions, etc.)
>exclude maeve, chara and smiles for being too young
>exclude sertii, shy, sish, hanna and snickerdoodle for being too innocent
>exclude basic for being too emotionally fragile
>exclude sarah and charlotte for being batshit crazy
>exclude faye for her poor political opinions
>exclude sass for obvious reasons

Pretty much whoever's left after that.
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>>7281084
Kit
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Everytime I'm alone for a day or two I forget I'm not a girl and it's really weird to go back and try to think and act like a guy would
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>>7281093
yume was raped and beaten to death at a trump rally

RIP
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>>7281104
>But basic is an awful worthless human being and should feel as such
actually, i know basic (i've read many of her posts on the internet) and she's actually a pretty nice person

leave her alone
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>>7281121
so pretty much just sheen?
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Can somebody explain to me the phenomenon of older trans women who basically dress like teenagers. Am I just a square for wanting to dress like a normal adult woman.
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>>7281119

our groups are very close knit so we're aware of everything that happens with everyone.
the only incidents that i would say gave me some kind of regret was one where a UK girl had to be admitted to a psych hospital under suicide watch, and a girl getting FFS and getting botched and sobbing because she did it to look the way everyone told her to look.
otherwise it's just been like....ppl having feels of inadequacy or having hurt feelings for a moment. and those days are long gone. the groups are pretty peaceful now.

>>7281120

wait shakira wants to do what lol
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>>7281121
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>>7281120
I am not thinking of escorting, and I would also appreciate if you stopped talking about me and what I do on 4chan.
>>7281128
She is confused ignore her.
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>>7281078
Yeah, but those are two different things. You're in trying to represent a false dichtonomy between what is real and exists and what society will tolerate.

Even there you're wrong, society conforms and regulates behavior, but society is malleable, and when spaces have been made for NB people it will only be a matter of time when that becomes no big deal.

I mean, there was a time when Atheism could get you hanged (there are still parts in this world where that is) and spartans literally left incapacitated children to die in the wilderness.
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>>7281131
speaking of spartan, where is Amy
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>>7281125
I know him irl

he's a real piece of shit
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>>7281130

is she tho
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>>7281126
Exclude Sheen too. Better exclude Angie as well, just to be on the safe side.
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>>7281126
What about Quid kit isla sophie sparky kiwi beepbeep red and so on?
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>>7281121

so ur saying there's a chance
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>when you remember some of your posts and still think they're extremely funny
I wish I'd had reaction images to post with them
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>>7281121
You would catfish me? Awwww :3
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>>7281121
>basic for being too emotionally fragile
Can't argue with you there tbqh
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>>7281133
>him
hey, stop misgendering basic

you may not be aware of this, but she's a well-liked poster here and you'll make enemies doing that
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>>7281133
I love you and I will never give up on you. You make me smile daily.

I know you're going through some tough shit, but know that your friendship has affected my life in an irrevocable way.

Your sweetness and sensitivity are like a ray of light in this world.

I love you and I'm happy that you exist and are aomewhat part of my life as a friend. I know this won't mean much in the state you are now. But i think you need to read it.

Please print it out and carry it with you.
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I finished the shitty paper I've been whining about. I'm gonna take a shower, go buy an energy drink or something, proofread it, go to school, take a nap, and then fucking die.
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Which trips do you suspect are highly two-faced?
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>>7281143
>>7281145

You should hate him too
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>>7281147

edie definitely
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*uses the super dragon balls*
please make everyone in /mtfg/ into straight cis women!
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>>7281134
Definitely confused, bamboozled I dare say.
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>>7281150
I second this.
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>>7281152
Tfw chaser don't care, dick is dick.
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itt: post music ur listening to etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj9y5xkHZaU
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>>7281150
I sometimes hear you're supportive to a few but played a role pushing someone into suicide.
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>tfw emotionally fragile cause drugs last night and not enough slepp
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>>7281147
Kit
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>>7281162
https://soundcloud.com/venderstrooik/spiraalvocal
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>>7281154
>>7281157

oooo

>>7281164

i've pushed a lot of ppl to do a lot of things in my life but i've never pushed someone to suicide.
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Good night.
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>>7281169
I know some drugs that are pretty good for feelings of emotional fragility, which I think are perfect for you:
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-166-estrofem-2mg-tablets.aspx
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-1140-spiractin-100-spironolactone.aspx
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>>7280662
Because you probably look like an alien
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is there any shop that sells E injections to germany?
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>>7280689
end it
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>>7281175
Thanks Nic I would prefer drugs with a less permanent effect though
Preferably ones that don't make me a 'girl'
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>>7281162
Still listening to Tyler, The Creator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-bAwy8PCw4
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>>7281174
>an australian goes to bed
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>>7280708
no gf
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>>7281173
To lazy to search through my screencap folder. But you even admitted it claiming she was suicidal and would have killed herself anyway. You posted the suicide letter.
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>>7281162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o18_5vHBFVA
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>>7281180
>he doesn't know about femboys
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>>7281186

i didn't say i pushed her to kill herself, i said that she killed herself and sent me a letter detailing it and saying i was right about this and that
because she used to attack me nonstop and i used to attack her back. i wasn't in any way a contributing factor to her death.
she was a suicidal 16 year old australian transsexual prostitute who was on hard drugs and trolled everyone nonstop.
her life was horrible and she wanted everyone else to feel horrible too. that's what motivated it.
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>>7281189
>implying you're not trying to place me on a slippery slope
I've talked to enough trannies to recognize this, Nic

Even when I'm sober you're all slippery sneks
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goodnight, maybe I can feel okay in dreams
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I just completely imagined a spider. Thank god I can probably take a nap soon.
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>>7281195
sleep tight, evangeline
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>>7281192
Well I still marked you as a horrible person in my book. Considering replacing it with bad bitch.
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>>7281174
>Emily won't be the OP of the next thread
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>>7281196
Hey same happened to me. It got creepy af when they started to dig into my skin.
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>>7281192
Sounds like me
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>>7281200

i mean i don't take pride in the exchanges we had even though they were motivated by my desire to defend myself and my friends.
it was very hard for me to reconcile what happened not because i had anything to do with it, but because i could have tried to react better.
like maybe she needed a friend and someone to just be nice to her instead of being as combative back as she was.
it doesn't make me a horrible person or a bad bitch or anything, it's just something that happened and i still think about it every now and again.

>>7281205

lmao how
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>>7280986
hi Kit!

sorry, you missed me by like a minute, have to get ready and stuff, class later ;-;

>>7280992
Idk, maybe
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>>7281201
>>Emily won't be the OP of the next thread
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>>7281206
I'd feel awful if someone I kinda know what kill themselve without me trying everything but that's just me.
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>tfw have to leave in 60 minutes
I don't want to leave the house I want to be a little fluff ball of comfyposting
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>>7281206
idk does tramadol count as hard drugs?
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>>7281192
This needs to stop. Edie can't and shouldn't be held accountable for this.

You can't force someone to suicide besides literally forcing a gun to their head or something in way.

It was a loss of impulse control and her not having a social net among other things as you said.

We are all responsible for our actions and the decisions we make.
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What gets you irrationally angry for no good reason, mtfg?

For some reason, I despise it when people use "game" as a verb.
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>>7281211

i did feel awful for awhile, but i'm not gonna carry that burden on my shoulders forever now.
i wasn't even around when it happened. i read the message like 3-4 days after she sent it and then heard about it afterwards in the threads.
i regret not trying to be her friend more but at the same time she was awful all of the fucking time. which is what made it hard to reconcile.

>>7281214

she was on meth/heroin iirc, so no

>>7281215

basically. ppl bring it up all of the time but every time it's ever been brought up i've said the exact same things. it's weird how ppl try to act like i've ever said anything else.
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Hey does that anon from Dulwich still post here? If you do start tripping!
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>>7281207
<3 sophie
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>>7281220
I'm probably heading that way.
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What's worse oxy or h?
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>>7281217

when ppl spout uninformed opinions about makeup lol
it infuriates me idk why. prob because i'm a drag queen

>>7281223

well you shouldn't be

>>7281224

H
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>>7281224
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>>7281221
>If you do start tripping!
I'm cis though.

It's weird enough being cis and posting here, but it's just intrusive to start tripping unless you're actually trans
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https://unsee.
cc/zorumega/
still look fucking dangerous
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>when you make a smart move in chess
yay
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>>7281228
Lo que quieren hombre guapo?
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>>7281229
Nah it's fine
Just be a nice :^)
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>>7281196
Ve a dormir niña!

>>7281149
I will never hate you, even if you're like a basic bitch. ;)

>>7281220
These jerks are just trying to bully you. I'm glad you don't put up with their bullshit.
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>>7281228
Both are opioids just h being synthetic
?
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>>7281231
*Cuddles u
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Um I guess I'm a transbian because I cuddled this cute girl and kissed her a little last night. Oops.
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>>7281234
Tripping is halfway to transitioning, Bjorgy.

They'll break you down, just like they did with Birdy.
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>>7281240
Was it me? :o
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>>7281238
Yay <3
I need dis
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>>7281229
So are you in the closet or a chaser (in the closet)? And that's dumb reasoning, we have plenty "cis" trips such as Cartman and Drakeposter. Trip and we can talk about London!
>>7281233
Leonardo Di Caprio
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>>7281240
Kit on suicide watch.
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>>7281240
what girl would want to cuddle a manlet like you
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>>7281249
Wtf I know who this is I asked what you want. Bc both h and oxy are opioids just h being synthetic. Do I have to say everything twice?
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>>7281240
cool
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>>7281227
The crap people spout about perfume isn't much better. Especially these days with the profusion of incredibly overpriced "niche" crap made of the cheapest functional fragrance ingredients available. Fuck imitation oud. Most retarded trend since single note fragrances.
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>>7281235

thx sassy ;-;

>>7281240

nothin wrong wit dat bb
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>>7281227
My life is not worth saving, the only thing keeping from H is my lack of contacts. Easy to overdose on, I need this.
>>7281255
From my school knowledge of Spanish I'm pretty sure you said "who is this beautiful man?"
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>>7281248
Now go out and kick ass, otherwise you won't be able to afford my passage to holland in the summer! :p
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>>7281249
>And that's dumb reasoning, we have plenty "cis" trips such as Cartman and Drakeposter.
That's like the only two, if you don't count Bjorg. I just come here to bully people when I'm off work sometimes, a trip isn't necessary. There's no climbing back up that slide once you've started to go down it anyway.

By the way, when are you going to meet Oryx?
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>>7281247
I think yeah
>>7281250
Kit doesn't like me
>>7281252
Good one bro
>>7281256
>>7281260
Ty
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>>7281261

i thought you were all happy with your appearance and stuff recently what happened
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>>7281260
I know we don't chat as often as we used to but I'll never forget how you helped me out when I was really down and not feeling well. You're the best bby. <3 u
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>>7281262
>imblying
I'll just cuddle Sertii and your fiancee instead
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>>7281261
Well your school is shit then or you're stupid.
You still didn't answer my question.
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>>7281264
She has a major crush on you but she's too shy to even talk to you.
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>>7281264
is she les
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>>7281264
Actually she did admit to having a crush on you.
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Coworkers made some comments about my new coat
didn't think it was that girly
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just ordered some TonyMoly peach anti-age handcreme

inb4 my hands turn into smol baby hands due to the anti-aging effect
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>>7281257
Some sap (you) painstakingly finds, tests, cuts up, crushes and mixes expensive herbs for their fancy perfume. Some faceless big company buys a bottle, runs it through a mass spectrometer replicates it with dirt cheap synthetic chemicals, takes all your business. Saw it on TV.
>>7281263
I wish she'd leave me alone tbqh
I think about you sometimes when I'm in Camberwell lol. No I don't live there, no I'm not telling you where I live.
>>7281265
Where do I start
My appearance: people say I'm qt but I'm really a drag act, don't pass at all without wig and makeup and even in that I look shit. They are just taken in by angled photos. Gonna be a hon when I eventually snap and go full time
My social life: Non existent
My financial life: Failing school so loan is gonna get taken away soon, may actually have to be a hooker. No skills or even an employment history so will be hooker forever
In general I just feel like a weird ugly freak failure and I've been taking more and more codeine and tramadol to escape my shitty life, probably an addict now. I actually just got out of psych ward, I went to A&E (ER), said I was suicidal and they put me in a guarded cell. Now they send people to my house to check on me.
>>7281269
El ingles no comprende Espanol, mas a las once horas.
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i wanna be a cute goth girl...
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I've been using orange lipstick in attempt to hide my beard shadow. It kinda works but I can still see a little bit. Is it possible to fully conceal my beard shadow without my makeup looking thick as fuck?
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>>7281282
What's your problem with oryx?
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>>7281282
>I think about you sometimes when I'm in Camberwell lol. No I don't live there, no I'm not telling you where I live.
What do you do in Camberwell, Shakira? Where should I look out for you?
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>>7281267

i love u too sassy <3 EVEN IF WE DON'T TALK LOTS LATELY. i only really talk to one person a lot these days tho so don't take it personally c:

>>7281280

that stuff is rly good lemme tell ya
i gave it to my great grandmother cause she loved it lolll

>>7281282

well i mean are you gendered female when you go out in makeup and all that?
otherwise you know the rest of that stuff can be solved. it's not like you're going down a bad path that you can't turn away from or fix.
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>>7281293
lol glad to hear
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i just saw someone on my facebook feed with the middle name "nymphadora" wtf
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>>7281282
Bir gun bulasahlum, senin anne gelebilir!

>>7281293
Merhaba. Coz guzel bir kiz!
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>>7281268
Lol, still. Go and kick ass!
>Tfw no platonic airplane ticket
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>>7281284
Why not use concealer?
>>7281289
I don't wanna talk about her, I just want her to leave me alone and stop talking about me on here, she's like obsessed with me. She's done many things to annoy me but the main one was siding with Elanna and Korra when I was arguing with them.
>>7281292
Visiting relatives
Umm near the Morrisons
Don't stalk me lol
>>7281293
> go out in makeup
Lol I've never done that. I plan to next year summer after I move house. Know too many people round here.
>it's not like you're going down a bad path that you can't turn away from or fix.
I won't be able to get another loan to go to university, I'll never have a good job, I'll never be able to afford FFS, I'll never be pretty, I have nothing to lose so I may as well do lots of drugs and bareback sex then kill myself, that's the plan after starting girlmode next year.
>>7281300
Probably a Harry Potter fan
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>>7281315
STOPNTHINKING THIS ABOUT SIDES
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>>7281303

wat

>>7281315

how is that a logical solution or even conclusion to come to when evaluating your problems lol
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Wew
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>>7281315
why the fuck would you name yourself after a harry potter character?

not to mention this was a hon

>>7281315
doesn't the orange in the lipstick counteract with the blue in the beard or something?
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>>7281321
Im showing my mom mtfg again

>>7281315
Shakira how social is the uni you go to
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>>7281293
I don't and wouldn't ever take it personally. :)

I know we're on our own paths and sometimes they'll cross, and sometimes they won't.

Still I <3 U
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>>7281294
I <3 u because we're going to be married.
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>>7281128
Who was the botched girl?
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>>7281331
Hi Oryx's Mom
Hope you're having a lovely visit
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>>7281321
Nothing to lose.
>>7281328
>why the fuck would you name yourself after a harry potter character?
Harry Potter is really popular
>doesn't the orange in the lipstick counteract with the blue in the beard or something?
Is that science?
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>>7281324
how are you going to use the handcuffs by yourself?
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>>7281346
Well i got them to suprise bf
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>>7281315
>Don't stalk me lol
As if you wouldn't be flattered by that.

Fine...I've got my eye on you though.
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There is irony how Edie used to hate sass but now loves her
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>>7281331

o

>>7281332

<3333333

>>7281334

ya'll don't know her

>>7281343

lmao "i have nothing to lose so i may as well kill myself" is not sound logic
"i have nothing to lose so i'm going to lose everything i do have"

>>7281351

i've never hated sass
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>>7281331
Bienvenue Madame Orix! We love your daughter very much! :3
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>>7281343
>doesn't the orange in the lipstick counteract with the blue in the beard or something?
It would highlight it if anything.

>>7281351
Edie would do anything for an admirer.
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>>7281333
same tbqh bby <3
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>>7281354
>never hated sass
You're memory isn't well

>you don't know her
The botched girl I'm going Raiden Quinn
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>>7281366

lol no and no
>>
Finally found a therapist that believes BDD is a phony diagnosis.
About goddamn time
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>>7281343
>Harry Potter is really popular
That's not really a good excuse. Nobody is named "Nymphadora". Ginny or hell, even Luna, sure.
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>>7281354
I'm amazed you're so concerned, I thought you didn't like me because I don't like your friend Mercury? Was expecting you to be laughing about my suicide plans tbqh.
>>7281373
Idk they're an autist, who cares? Gas em.
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>>7281370
>no
The only fuck ups I know that went to your group was Angie and Raiden
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>hair is long enough to land to annoy me while eating
>not long enough to put behind ear or into a ponytail properly
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>>7281378
>Raiden Quinn
isn't she a youtuber? How was she botched and who did it?
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>tfw no will to live
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>>7281356
>>7281343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bUYw4_ATCw

Do you all not use makeup at all or something?
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>>7281351
>>7281354

Come on Angie. When you were playing around and manipulating me about revealing my old trip i had a chat with all the people I care about who I am and was

I mean I even showed her the pic of who I was and told her of my old trip and she told me literally: I don't care what you look like. It's who you are NOW that matters

Besides when I posted under my old trip she was awesome to me and even helped me fix my okcupid profile.

Besides, don't be jealous, loving Edie as a friend doesn't mean I love you less. Just don't ask me to choose, because that's not what friends do.
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>>7281384
Hey lower face looks awful.
Z did it
Z also did kuro, angie and Michelle Hendley
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I keep having intrusive thoughts to mutilate my genitals
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https://psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient

post results
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>>7281387
>caring about people on the Internet
Oh that's pure gold
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>>7281387
ily sass
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>>7281386
I'm black remember, I use completely different makeup.
>>7281388
Why do people keep going to Z?
Kuro looks nice, I've always wanted to know more about her because I've only seen her in the tierlist and never on here.
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>>7281388
It's definitely like... misaligned a bit? But your not picking she looks better then anyone here with pictures
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>>7281396
Idk
Imo kuro looks a bit weird and Angie is all sorts of fucked up
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>>7281355
=}

>>7281390
,_,

>>7281396
Kuro is a passer

>>7281388
Michelle got ffs huh
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>3 hours of sleep
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>>7281396
Ah. I'm not a regular here exactly so i didn't know what race you were
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>>7281376

i'm indifferent about past issues
i just don't think what you're saying makes any sense and you're kind of throwing your life away for no reason

>>7281378

...............and i already said you don't know them

>>7281387

<3
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>>7281390
I got unwanted boners and I think "wow how great would it be if it was chopped off
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>>7281376
SHAKIRA I SWEAR TO GOD STOP THINKING THIS ABOUT SIDES
>>
>scans page a little

Mtfg

Where the poor uneducated non passing trips spend time commenting on the ones who have it all

Sad
>>
>>7281402
I've only ever seen one pic of Kuro so idk really.
>>7281408
There's only 3 black trips here, well 2, apparently one is dead.
>>7281412
>i'm indifferent about past issues
Well good, so am I.
>you're kind of throwing your life away for no reason
But I'm a hon so my life is worthless.
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>>7281422
>tfw poor non-passing trip
;_;
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>>7281424
I really want you to marry me so I can make you an African princess and then you can say that's racist at our wedding
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>>7281424
YOUR LIFE IS NOT WORTHLESS DO YOU WANT THAT CONTACT AT THE TECH JOB I TOLD YOU ABOUT
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>>7281424

your life is only worthless if you decide that it's worthless tho. and why would you do that lol
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>>7281422
teach me to be like you faye
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>>7281391
Hah!
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>>7281425
there there pupper
>>7281424
No ones going to talk you out of this feeling, so maybe you can try talking about something you like or want to talk about?
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>>7281443
d-do you think i will ever pass? ;__;
>>7281424
Maybe you should think about professional help if you are having suicidal ideas
>>7281439
;w;
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>>7281439
Using internet tests to see if you're autistic and posting the results in 4chan is a clear warning sign of autism
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>>7281449
desu i did it for fun
my psych said that i wasn't autistic :3
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>>7281391
I <3 U Carol

>>7281393
You care for videogames, movie characters and your favorite shoes, why can't you care for real life people on the internet who have demostrated love and care?

I'm still sad about Hodor ffs.
>>
>>7281458
holy heck you are rlly empathetic :D
I think most people here knew that already tho

you're a sweetheart <3
>>
>>7281449
>Tfw it was about empayhy and not autism
:3
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>>7281449
B-But i can't have autism i totally filled all of this by hand and not via
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>>7281434
Thanks for your support, I appreciate it, I really wasn't expecting it.
>>7281443
Okay, that's not a bad idea. Idk what to talk about though, don't really have anything in common with /mtfg/ beyond makeup.
>>7281447
Way ahead of you, went to A&E on Monday. They put me in a cell, talked to me for hours and now send people to my house to check on me.
>>
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>>7281464
Kek
>>7281447
Of course you'll pass, and if you work on it and sacrifice you can be pretty
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>>7281391
>>7281449

Self test are kinda useless desu but they're fun

>>7281463
If you score low on the test it says you should consider getting tested for autism
>>
>>7281472
:D
thanks faye
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my test score would be low, but not because I cant empathize with other people, its because I hate most of them and dont care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>7281474
Self reporting has its place in psychology, but if you know how the tests work and what their asking, and how their designed

Well it feels like a struggle for me to not answer in the way I see myself and to be objective knowing which way each question pushes your score
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>>7281458
>>7279310
tfw only heff a work email that has my full name and shit tho. D:
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>>7281458
>video games
I rarely play them

>movie characters
The fuck? Why would I care about that?

>clothes
Nope
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>>7281478
>I don't feel empathy but I can recognize emotions
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>>7281478
This. And why can't i prefer animals to humans and still be emphatic. And who likes to care for other people?
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>>7281484
>reading comprehension
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>>7281482
Just create a quick https://cock.li/ address, like
[email protected]
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>>7281391
:/
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>>7281485
The definition of empathy they are looking for is one where people are able to feel viscerally what others are feeling themselves and then they act accordingly to form and strengthen social bonds

Animals don't have complex thoughts and emotions, you put your own emotions on them, you are enjoying a mirror of your own emotions to a person who has their own
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>>7281478
E D G Y
D
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>>7281479
>Self reporting has its place in psychology
Very true

>Well it feels like a struggle for me to not answer in the way I see myself and to be objective knowing which way each question pushes your score
But this is why I don't think they're too valuable at least online because I feel people (myself included) want to answer "correctly" and not to what they actually do
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Fuck that test.
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>>7281495
I'm pretty sure animals have emotions too.
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>>7281487
Let me try it another way

I can feel happy, but I've been clinically depressed for my entire life, but I'm a happy person.
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>>7281391
hum
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>>7281501
Scientifically

No
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>>7281497
thats me!

>>7281502
>reading comprehension
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>>7281504
come on, Quid got 50? Test is bullshit
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>>7281500
lmao I mean what'd you think you'd get

don't you take pride in that kinda?

just an internet testerooni anyway
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>>7281512
Why would I be proud of a test calling me an autist?
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>>7281511
lmaoo

1. it's a test, on the internet, this was assumed
2. I mean there is a reason so many friends turn towards me for support ^^ you should try being legitimately nice some time
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>>7281508
It's ok to not have any empathy, was just trying to help

Why are you so worried about the fact you don't feel it?
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>>7281513
cause empathy is weakness and weakness must be exterminated amirite
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>>7281508
<3 soapie
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>tfw i only know one non binary amab person and every social media site just shows afab non-binary people

it's not important to know other ppl like you or anything r-right
i find it so weird that it's only like assigned female at birth sjw people who seem to identify with those labels tho
like it's insanely hard to find any assigned male at birth person in any form of social media who identifies even kind of similar to non-binary
why is that
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>>7281460
Lol, it's like I'm reverse autist :) I <3 u
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But but but
I am very empathic and emotional
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>>7281522
>non-binary
i'm NB
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>>7281391
>tfw brain of a lizard
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>>7281513
Stop taking things personally. What to you have to prove?
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>>7281504
Please get an adblocker
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>>7281522
I'm sorry, that is hard. There's this support group I love but I don't really try as hard to get there as I did because it's literally just an FtM and everyone else is NB, amab or afab, cause it's a college campus, and that feels sucky enuff
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>>7281514
pre-HRT I'd 100% agree that I was a turboautist but since starting hormones I haven't fallen out with anyone IRL. I'm much more mellow and friendly. People here hate on me because they still have a grudge against me from when I used to post pre-HRT. if you read my posts at the start of the year and now at the end you'll see that I'm basically a different person.
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>>7281505
Science is dumb if it can't see the difference between a happy and a sad dog
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>>7281482
Lol, I gave u my real address bby, I promise I won't use it for anything mean and won't lewd. ;)

I'm going to get on discord, I guess. Which server are you on?
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ftr I probably still am totally autistic, obv

>>7281528
oryx, if I was a Shakira, I would've gone to the club, jsyk

>>7281525
Self hatred doesn't count as NB, Angie, don't insert yourself into things :P
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>>7281533
Don't you need irl friends to fall out with them?
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>>7281533
Do you present female nowadays?
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>>7281517
I wish I had no empathy to be honest, would make my life easier. my problem is that its very unevenly distributed.

to fix your last example

>I can feel happy, but it doesnt happen very often, and when it does, its extremely intense to the point where it makes my life hard.

I feel empathy. I can read and understand people, I just usually ignore it because unless theyre close friends or family, I just dont give a shit. Doesnt mean I dont understand their situation or how they feel.

being a bitch doesnt make me autistic, or empathyless, just a terrible person
>>7281520
quid quid quid :3
<3
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>>7281537
Isn't self hatred
I don't look female and so I look
more male/andro so NB
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Why isn't this a meme on here yet? Seems p obvious and like it should be, not necessarily a mean spirited one that should be aimed at anyone in particular, but yknow, for shits and gigs.
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>>7281522
>go on tumblr
>literally find hundred of them

Stop conflating for controversy
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>>7281537
Im gonna go with Nicotine ^__^
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>>7281533
ummmmm

you've gotten better I'll admit buuuuuut

no comment I suppose
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>>7281543
wew
I havent seen that since 2013 or 2014

I think it just fell out of fashion
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>>7281536
mitfug and snake pit rofl, not sure if there's more but i'm probably not cool enough.
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>>7281536
Why would you post your real email on 4chan??
>>7281538
No not at all, You interact with many people who aren't your friends do you not? I find these interactions are a lot smoother since hormones.
>>7281539
No why?
>>7281547
Exaaaactly.
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>>7281540
Soapiiiie <3

and I get what you're saying I think, that was me pre hrt

>>7281542
so you aren't even trying to pretend you're actually NB? pretty disrespectful, even if theoretically you weren't delusional and didn't pass it's not like that makes you non-binary lol what are you on about
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>tfw you wake up thinking about girldick
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>>7281554
When will you start wearing pretty dresses?
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>>7281525

what quid said lol

>>7281531

every time i've been to a trans support group it's always like
cis women who identify as pangender or genderfluid or something crazy with zero dysphoria belittling binary trans ppl
specifically trans women. it's just constant berating. it just baffles me that even on things like youtube you can't find like
more than one example? maybe? if someone who is amab who identifies as agender or neutrois
LITERALLY NONE. there's one person who identifies that way and they're similar to me but they also think gender is a social construct and everything they say is retarded so idk

>>7281544

that person literally put almost every single possible trans tag on their pics and somehow none of them said agender or neutrois lmao
the few agender or neutrois amab on tumblr have zero interest in presenting as such and look cis. which is fine but it indicates a complete lack of dysphoria which is again not something that resonates with me at all.
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Should i get pic related? I need one and it's a lot cheaper than usual, but i'm still not sure if it's worth it.
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>>7281557
idktf
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>>7281556
I am not allowed to identify as female because I don't look like one.
What's there not to get?
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>>7281522
kek I'm NB and the only AMAB trans person I know is NB
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>>7281554
sigh, okay one comment. You're still incredibly aggressive, you're just not straight up mean anymore. ...as much. Still got a lot of shit to work out, sry, you really shouldn't judge recovery based on how many friends have cut you off lately lol, that's like the bare minimum of being a decent person.

Unless of course these people cut you off for reasons different than that you were mean to them, like your identity or whatever, in which case it doesn't really apply and I'm sorry, but otherwise
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>>7281554
Didn't you sperg out at your professor just a few weeks ago? Are you saying you were even more of a sperg before hormones?
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>>7281556
ya same. early in HRT I had a phase were I wanted to save the world, but that stopped pretty quickly. now I am back to my old self
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What feminine boots (that don't cost over €160) should I get? Docs looked a bit too chunky on me. I would get sneakers, but it's just too cold for that tbqh
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>>7281544
Kinda hot desu
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>>7281565
Kit, run
I think this place makes people gay ;_;
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>>7281557
Lanlan is losing to lesbians.
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>>7281577
>>7281577
>>7281577
>>
Transwomen who identify as nonbinary only do so because they are unhappy with their transition so they fall back to that stupid meme.
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>>7281567

i'm not saying that amab non-binary people don't exist at all, i'm saying why are there zero youtube videos of them and why are the vast majority of non-binary people in general online specifically afab
the only person who identifies similar to the way i do that i know, i know from 4chan. and i've seen it here every now and again, but only here
it's weird
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>>7281567
you're severely autistic tho so it doesn't count
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>>7281557
w-whose girldick?
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>>7281562
that is super hard. my best friend (tied with that one dude b4 some archive anon goes nuts on me) is an enby and they're amab and pretty much look like a girl given the years of HRT, ppl add them on Grindr thinking they're an ftm lmao, and I know they know others and have dated like two nb amabs that look like girls at least that i know of, it's gotta just be a matter of finding the right social circles

then there's a pal at the support group who definitely doesn't look cis but she's kiiiinda a hon in training, no efforts to look cis girl, theoretically MtF which made me happy at first but they like, have a beard to protest gender norms and shit lol..
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>>7281582
Because women are attemtion whores. Men are secretive
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