/femgen/ - Breakfast edition

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>>6967004
>tfw andrej won't reply to ANY of your snaps
how do I fix this?

>>6967004
>breakfast
nigga its 9 at night

Is it possible to be a qt when you're fat?

>>6967046
come back in 12 hours

>>6967048
nope, unless your partner is into that, but it isn't a common appeal

try intermediate fasting if you're having issues losing weight

>>6967048
no

>>6967069
personally I recommend becoming anorexic that works pretty well if you have the discipline

if you slip though you can always purge out the food by triggering your gag reflex
however just know that your body still uses about 30% of whatever you eat for nutrition, so that should only be used for emergencies

>>6967069
>>6967080
fug

>tfw youre a straight frat athletic chad and get all the girls

>tfw you want to dress up and a rail a cute little femboy on the DL
>tfw youll never jerk dick together and kiss

ugh

>>6967099
yo hit me up familia

>>6967048
yes, if your confident and have a really good personality and social skills

>>6967024

Groom your eyebrows.

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How many of you are Computing majors? Need to see if the meme is true.

>>6967122
Wrong thread.
Here's the right one to ask that
>>6966388

>>6967143
no I want to see if it extends to femboys

>>6967107
pls be in va

im legit a 6'4 fitness model looking dude but i cant find a qt femboy.

i really just want treat them like a gf. Dress them up at VS, kiss cuddle, cook... ugh.

Then after all the cutsey stuff i want his cute little ass to grind on my cock and nibble on my ear, send me over the edge and make me go primal.

sigh, ive wanted this since HS wrestling when a fag boy felt my abs and giggled...

>>6967116
https://youtu.be/TdwT5JlH8gM

>>6967122
Biomed
there's another person in med track at least, seems common

>>6967149
>tfw as i typed that a qt femboy fashion model type matched with me on tinder

were all gonna make it bros

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>>6967149
>Then after all the cutsey stuff i want his cute little ass to grind on my cock and nibble on my ear, send me over the edge and make me go primal.

Hnngh..

>>6967145
It doesn't, we're not trannies and actually can have social lives and don't have to take jobs where we hide ourselves.
Again, you're in the wrong thread.

>>6967122
CS with netsec focus here

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>>6967178
>we actually have social lives

>>6967179
Trannies out.
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>6966388

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>>6967184
Speak for yourself, autismo.

>>6967187
>you
Is something wrong?

>>6967122
Substitute teacher.

>>6967176
do you hit on hot straight guys? or do they hit on you?

I'm going fem soon, trying to find an informed consent clinic but will probably just self-med if I can't sort it out. Any general advice I should have going in?

>>6967204

I'm pre-girlmode trans but that post just like triggered me into a lewd state lol. Have had better success with gay guys than straight guys though.

>>6967122
Chem Engr here

>>6967229
>I'm pre-girlmode trans
We knew from your picture in that last post, you didn't need to say it.
Also get out.

>>6967229
>lewd state
good, my cocks out rn

this femboy trans type just said hed fuck me all night long and keep it a secret

im in love.

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>>6967240

>my cocks out rn

Good luck with your lewd stuff.
You haven't had sex with a femboy so far right?

>>6967270
no, im "straight"

would you be weirded out if wanted to frot? i think its called and kiss before i get really roughwith you

i think smooth cocks are very cute on girly guys

>>6967274

I think a femboy would like to frot while being passionately kissed by a straight boy. If they're on hormones they'll probably have a soft and feminine cock.

>>6967296
his cock is bigger than mine, would that be a problem?

im really dom and masc, etc and im not insecure about my cock. But arent gays big size queens

>>6967311

Hmm probably not a huge deal although subby people usually like having the smaller cock in the situation. Did you see his when it was hard? Anyways especially if you're fine with it it probably won't be a significant issue.

>>6967322
yeah, hes pretty hung no homo

hes like 5'5 120, im 6'4 240lb though.... so i think ill be fine.

i kinda wanna make him cum though, is that gay? just pound him and jerk him and watch him explode

hopefully he can keep a secret, im as straight and masc as they come. my army bros would disown me too :(

>>6967333

Ahh... yeah. You're like double his weight, so hot. You must be pretty jacked.
It doesn't sound too gay :3

Ahh I'm getting so worked up just reading your posts lol.

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>>6967345
my kik is high_test if youd like to see what i look like

id like to still chat here though...my hand is bigger than my phone its hard to type

>>6967333
>i want to fuck a guy is that gay?
No, not at all :^)

>>6967364

Masc on femme isn't too gay really.
Masc on masc or femme on femme is gay.

>>6967377

I literally don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>6967122
attorney

>>6967004
1 cup of Corn Flakes and Capn Crunch
1 cup of milk

>>6967345
>tfw you dont hit me up when im jerking it

a-anon please i like flirting with fag boys

>>6967485

S-sorry I was also busy masturbating lol.
I just finished and I'm making an account since I've never used kik before.

>>6967495
i wish you put some on your lips and took a pic for me :(

>>6967499

It's just a few drops of clear goo so it might be hard to see anyway!

>>6967510
i want to push you to your knees and just pound your mouth, you fucking faggot. Ill give you plenty of cum

>>6967523

That would be nice. You could fuck my mouth hard until I gag on your cum as it shoots into my throat.

can you autists get a chatroom or something

>>6967543
will you pretend you're a girl the entire time? i am not gay or anything...

>>6967875

Sure.

>>6967004
Banana and coffee

How do I get my legs to look more feminine? I shaved em but they still just look like a skinny guy's

came to this thread to ask a question but reading the thread I've since forgotten and I'm now just gonna go masturbate

thanks mates

>>6967369
>Masc on femme isn't too gay really.

STOP

>>6968633
im just gonna hug this pillow til sweet blackness envelopes my consciousness

>>6967871
he's in the discord

>>6967004
everybody please take note that there are no breasts here

thank you for your time

>>6967122
Technically physics major, but I did a shitton of computer stuff in HS and hope to enter a computer field

I may have fallen for the hormones meme, but I'm NOT falling for the CompSci Degree meme!

>>6968786
How about no

Trannies are mentally ill but budding boiboobs are a perfectly femgen-compatible erogenous zone / sex accessory

>>6968506
The only things to do are
>shaving
>moisturizing
>squats
>putting on weight WHILE TAKING ESTROGEN AND ANTIANDROGENS

So I realised that the difference between us and trannies, fundamentally, is

>You are a woman if you say so! Don't let facts invalidate YOUR identity and experience!
vs
>So, you want to be fem? Well, that'll take a lot of work, and temporary twinkhood may be the femmest thing in the cards for you.
>Also, don't pretend you're a girl, even "on the inside", that's cringe af. Yes, we all have gender dysphoria here, NO, that does NOT make you a grill

>>6968786
>chest obscured by blanket
>"n-no boobs here g-guys"
this nigga

>>6969047
But I don't want to grow tits or give myself mental problems :(

>>6968986
>t. Slaanesh cultist

>>6969227
>mental problems

But you already have those sweetie pie ;^)

"Straight guy" from yesterday

Went on a date with the femboy fashion model from tinder...

I think I'm in love bros, we had so much fun together and that puppy love spark was there. He says he wants to be my girlfriend and wifey and treat her man like a king.

When we kissed and held hands it was unbelievable, I've never felt so connected with someone

This guy is more fem/sweet/submissive than any girl I've met, I can't wait to see my baby again :3

>>6969392

Glad you had a good time :)

would it be best to wait on hormones until i am more overall stable (at 23/24), or should i start now (at 21)?

>>6969403
Yeah, I'm really excited for us <3. He keeps texting cute things and how smitten he with me. :3
To think a girls never been this sweet and loving to me

And I'm a Chad...

>>6969416
He doesn't have boy Boobs? He looks like Victoria secret model with no chest. Doesn't try to be Trans and he likes his cock.

He just wants a man I think

>>6969423
Need blockers like bicaulitimide now or you become a caveman hormones are your call

>>6969432
i'm taking finasteride atm, but i don't think that's enough, is it?

>>6969227
Wait for darolutamide to be approved, then take that with raloxifene.

>>6969483

>Wait for darolutamide to be approved

Just take bica lol. It blocks T brain but like trust me testosterone causes more mental problems than estrogen. I feel way more relaxed and peaceful compared to before I started hormones. Part of that might have been psychedelic drugs/general personal development though. Anyway male suicide rate is higher, males are more aggressive, males are more antisocial, etc.

>>6969504

>It blocks T brain

It blocks T in the brain* lol

>>6969062
>repression

And most trans on this site aren't tumblr.

>>6969227
The meds don't give you mental problems, trannies only have mental problems because they're literally crazy. All their mental problems were pre-existing.
>>6969504
Having loaded up on psychedelics quite heavily for many years before tinkering with my endocrine system, I can tell you that's from the bica.

>>6969621

There are certain things I can directly relate to my trips though. Like especially relating to the ego and the subjectivity of my own thoughts and stuff. It allows me not to get caught in self deprecating thought loops. It was pretty sudden like before vs. after the trip too. Maybe the hormones facilitated things though? Not sure.

The FTMs are planning on capturing us, using darolutamide as a lure:
>>6969730

>>6969807
>linking to your own posts
kys mutilated freak

>>6969829
???

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>>6967222
You don't need hormones to be fem. They aren't some sort of "shortcut" and you're kidding yourself into thinking otherwise

>>6970016

Hormones help a lot though lol. But yeah they aren't a "shortcut", it's like a different path IMO.

>>6967091
Don't purge, it ruins your teeth and conditions you mentally to reject food. Also can damage the esophagus.

honestly i feel guilty for asking coworkers to call me female. i'm not female. i think i really want to be..but im still not. i wish i could just look 100% but still be a guy. is that what femgen is about??

>>6970226

Pretty much. Feminization but with a male gender identity.

>>6970075
Genetics is like 90% of it. Puberty being nice is also another side but that's tied into genetics. Pills won't fix a fucked up head or body, neither will diet or anything. Some people just need to accept it.

>>6970226
Nice bait

>>6970359
The vast majority of people don't actually have a fucked up head or body, though, so genetics isn't going to be a problem for them. 99% of men don't look like Sylvester Stalone.

>>6970359

Pills actually can affect your face and body substantially. Even bones if you start early. And importantly, they can prevent further masculinization.

>>6970387
I don't mean fucked up, I mean ugly and/or masculine.
>>6970393
Yeah no, good luck with being a failed tranny.

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>>6970359
>>6970387

The thing is, even if you look cute, you won't stay like that for long. Remember how Chis croaker turned into a fat hairy slob. That's just nature beating down on any natural guy.


Also genetics is exaggerated, pills augment advantages you already had. Even you've on the top like Andrej was cheating. They're just that potent.

>>6970599
Nah senpai, I'm 21 right now rolling on 22 and I'm pretty #blessed

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>>6970016
>be me
>airborne soldier
>miserable old and ugly
>get on hrt
>leave military
>get to be 39 year old fuck toy

Hormones... are the fucking shit I'm telling y'all

>>6971443
Go home Jason >>6970329

>>6971464
I'm a man

>>6971502
why did you honestly originally start hormones? just to be cuter? did they make you dysphoric in any way or anything?

Do you guys knowingly hit on straight guys?

A fem black guy hit on me today and it happened last semester. It could of been the same guy I'm not sure but I feel like I get hit on by more gay guys then my friends. Some of which are better looking.

I'm always confused as to why this is, im not a feminine guy at all and i dont think i give off gay mannerisms

>>6971536
>Do you guys knowingly hit on straight guys?

All the time.

>>6971524
I took them because I hated my body.

They didn't make me dysphoric, they more made me have a sense of self identity after like 3-4 months on them, like I had no idea what I looked like before then, I see pictures and can't place that as ever being me

>>6971536
Straight guys knowingly hit on me if we're being honest

>>6971538
oh really
i thought gay guys only hit on other gay guys or if they did it would be more coy way

>>6971555
isnt that gay then or bi

>>6971577
There are some dudes that are in the closet that want you to know they're straight, but yes they're complete faggots

>>6971591
this maybe to much of a weird question but

gay guys like straight guys
if straight guys fuck them theyre not straight
so wouldnt that ruin it for you guys

are god tier straight guys the ones who only fuck women

>>6971577
Iunno. I just talk the way girls would talk to a guy when they wanted to be sweet.

I mean, I don't like "hit on" them in the sense of actively tying to fuck them, but I do say shit like "are you saying I'm not pretty?" for no good raisin and I always find weird ways to compliment them.

I work in a restaurant and 90% of what I do in my position is telling someone else what to do and my biggest asset is being cute, funky and just a little-lot bit annoying so people don't think I'm a dick.

That entails flirting with the cooks non-stop.

>>6971555
This too, but at my job it seems to be a running joke for the guys to hit on each other.

I think it's just different in my case because no one can look at me and not think effeminate.

>>6971625
when i mean hit on i mean like cold approaching a guy and asking for a number or saying they have beautiful eyes type of shit

>>6971634
Oh, when I think of that I really do tend to use the term "approaching".

Hit on is a broad term.

>>6971735
oh sorry then yeah

basically this shit happens to me and non of my other friends and im straight and im worried if i give off a gay vibe

>>6971750
If you're worried that you give off a gay vibe, you probably do.

Stop being insecure. Flirt back.

>>6971775
I appreciate it anon but im not sure how it solves my problems

i dont mind getting hit on, it always kind of leaves me i guess flustered about it but i always wonder why

>>6971796
You don't have problems, anon. There's nothing to be solved, only fun to be had.

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>>6967122
Chef

>>6969483
>tfw nhs faggot
it amazes me americans can just buy this stuff over the counter
that or I'm just a dumbass

>>6971818
can i get an answer anon

is it possible that a normal masculine guy without and gay lisp or anything still gives off a gay vibe
maybe its the aryan looks dude idk

>>6971969
Nigga you gay

>>6971969
>is it possible that a normal masculine guy without and gay lisp or anything still gives off a gay vibe

yes

>>6972016
how man
none of these times had we talked previously

>>6972049
I don't know. It really depends on the person. Certain traits can give off gay vibes, even if those traits aren't blatantly homosexual.

we haven't talked before

So I am thinking about doing a Raloxifene + AA combo for overall feminization without breast growth. I have read all the FAQs and paste in guides. As far as I can tell, all effects will be reversible if I stop taking anything. Is this correct?

Thanks.

>>6967170
Also biomed here

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>>6969807
Fem guys are now cats?
>>6969829
You're crazy, I don't mind if ftmg is here, they're way more pleasant than the mtfs

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HEY MOTHERFUCKERS TAKE THIS POLL FOR PURPOSES NO TRANNIES ALLOWED

http://www.strawpoll.me/11318778

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>>6972502

>I don't mind if ftmg is here, they're way more pleasant than the mtfs

>>6972502
>>6972550
ftms are cancerous abominations

>>6972556

At least the aesthetic goal of femboys and mtfs are somewhat aligned; both groups are about femininity and feminizing themselves. But ftms are like destroying femininity and replacing it with masculinity, so they seem a bit different, don't they?

>>6972550
That wasn't personal, it's just you guys are always doing crazy things like >>6971373 and in your own threads and frankly that's a little scary. I'm sure you're just fine in here.

>>6972514
Needs an option for antiandrogens and/or serms

>>6972594

That is fucked up. I will admit there are some delusions/crazy shit relating to mtfs. Personally I try not to worry about like "really being girl" or like "being a girl on the inside" since those don't mean anything really. I just want to change my social role to a female one and look female. In that way I sort of like the femboy mindset since it doesn't carry as much philosophical baggage as a lot of trans seem to have. Like the trutrans thing...

>>6972550
let me see your face qt

>>6972657

I don't post my face on 4chan.

>>6972639
Well to be fair it's probably bait so id feel bad in damning a whole group over that.
Also, it's mostly the fault of therapists and hons that they ended up stuck with such a skewed system. Think they're being threatened by them into acting that way.

>>6972679
Smart move, babe.

Honestly, I just would've saved it and put it in my folder.

>>6972694

Hmm yeah like I think there is too much of a focus on like external and internal validation like, thinking of it as a medical issue that needs to be "treated" (opens the doors for the trutrans vs. trenders issue) and also the idea that trans "are the other gender on the inside". So people invest so much into convincing themselves and others that they're "really" trans. So when that gets challenged theres the potential to lose one's shit. But In my opinion being trans is just a desire/decision based on one's feelings. The only validation one needs is the internal desire to transition. If you think like that it's way more chill.

>>6972718

Yah nothing personal I just don't want my face like floating around in the pool of images people might repost later on.

>>6972746
I never repost images. Aside from Brandon, but I know that attention whore loves it.

>>6972746
got a keychain?

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>>6972817

I got this from a bottle of hotsauce.

>>6972921
Cute!

and saved

>>6967149
which part of va?

>>6970368
>nice bait
Maybe some people are here to learn cause we don't know shit yet and are genuinely interested

>>6973004
RVA

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SOMEONE
POST
SERM
GUIDE

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>>6973502
every thread i swear

>>6973516
it needs to be linked in the OP

>>6973502
here's a (you)

>>6971918
You are a dumb-ass

We get it quasi-legally from the internet

>>6971918
They can't just buy it over the counter. They buy it from online pharmacies in other countries that are lax about prescriptions.

>>6972657
>>6972679
>>6972718
>>6972746
>>6972817
>>6972921
>>6972992
What just happened here.

>>6972638
same shit. stop splitting hairs.

So I'm on both spiro (200 mg/day) and bica (50 mg/every other day) at the same time for a while as I switch from spiro to bica. I've been on the bica for about 3 weeks.

Seems like the binding affinity of spiro to the AR is greater (IC50=13nM) than bica (IC50=159–243 nM). And as spiro is a partial agonist of the AR am I actually causing more androgenic activity by taking it than taking just bica alone? I was thinking of waiting till like 2 or 3 months after starting bica before getting a blood test and then reducing the spiro, to give the bica time to build in my system. But should I just start dropping the spiro off now to avoid AR activation?

>>6969062
>implying anyone has gender dysphoria

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>tfw spreading the hormones meme to /cuteboys/

>>6974390
admin there is against it, I doubt you'll get far.

Consensus there is that hormones are not worth the risk, they'll just tell you "jog, eat froot and semen or try jus having thicc genetics. worked for me xD"

I've been on there for a few years

femgen exists at the midway point between mtfgen and gaygen. We have gender dysphoria and want to be androgynously cute, but don't pretend to be females

/cuteboys/ exists at the midpoint between femgen and gaygen. They want to be sissy-male-cute but don't pretend to have gender dysphoria.

There is no home for us there

>>6972638
"hormones" is a blanket term for any prescription-only feminizing endocrine disruptors in this case.

>>6974147
Day 1:
>100mg Bica
>200mg Spiro
Day 2:
>100mg Bica
>100mg Spiro
Day 3:
>50mg Bica
>50mg Spiro
Day 4+:
>50mg Bica
>0mg Spiro

That's how I would do the transition

>>6974828

Do you think 25 mg/day would be enough? I'm kinda poor lol.

>>6974942
not 100% sure on that tbqhwufam

The price is the largest downside to Bica...

50mg/day = $60/mo or $600/year

So I guess it's doable, certainly

>>6974984
y tho

We are here instead of gaygen because natural cuteness and androgyny levels in males are too fucking low and makeup/crossdressing is NOT a suitable way to make up the difference between our goal vs current androgyny levels

>>6974976

Yeah I could do it but then there's estrogen costs on top of that and I live by myself on a pretty low income, etc. I'm also getting laser hair removal lol on my face so it's another like lets say $125 a month. My resources are spread thin lol.

>>6975021
Well, Spiro is cheap, as long as your liver's in good health you might consider just sticking with that. Especially if you can afford a 200mg dose, that's bretty high from what I've heard

>>6975044

I've been on 200 mg spiro, 6 mg estradiol valerate for like 10 months and different lower doses for like a year before that. Yet I got my blood tested and my testosterone was still in the low end of male range (2.08 ng/ml). I tried 300 mg of spiro for a day or two but I got scared of the side effects and decided to try bica.

>>6975043
>might as well go full blown tranny
There's a difference between pretending something you're not (and asking society to participate in your delusions), and in taking steps to make your body more like what you want it to be.

Imagine it like this: you are a wimpy manlet who FUNDAMENTALLY WANTS TO BE A MANLY MAN. But you will never grow taller and you have a genetic defect that prevents you from getting buff without taking steroids.

DO YOU:
>wear THICC-soled shoes and puff out your chest everywhere in the hopes that people will pretend you're tall
OR:
>buy steroids, and do what you can to get ripped

Likewise. We WANT TO BE FEMININE/ANDROGYNOUS, but pretending we're female and being dipshits about pronouns won't make us "female if we believe we are". Facts CAN invalidate our imagined "experiences".

Basically we're trans sans the new-age relativism that buying into is a mandatory part of joining the "trans"-per-se community.

>want to be feminine
>will NEVER EVER be a legitimate girl
>still want to be less masculine due to gender dysphoria
>gay sissy is a gross and lame path
Trying to rationalize all those ^ is what leads us to how we are

We would probably happily hang out with the trans crowd, and maybe even merge with it, except their fundamental tenents involve a fixation on "you are X if you say/believe it". And that's bullshit.

>>6975095
jeez bro

wow

high test holy shit you have resilient nuts

Maybe you could sell one to pay for the treatments


Yeah, you're going to need at least 50mg of bica for that

I might even consider doing a few months of Cypro (with regular fertility tests (if you want to leave the kids path open)) just to tone your balls the fuck down

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Is moisturizing a meme? I've been trying to cleanse and moisturize for a week or so but everytime I out on the moisturizer it just makes my skin extremely oily through the rest of the day, and I'm only using a pea sized dot for each side. If I just cleanse it feels fine. Should I just stop doing it? Will I get wrinkly if I don't?

>>6975121
>>6975174
the majority of trannies on this board believe the exact same thing

you're literally doing the same thing trannies are with the same mentality and just quibbling over words

just fyi

>>6975135

Yeah that fact kinda makes me feel bad when I think about it. Like I'm extra masc or something. Sometimes I consider injecting CaCl2 or alcohol into my testicles to decrease their ability to produce test lol. But hopefully I don't have to do that if I get on bica. I also started sublingualing the estrogen to get more of it into my bloodstream, which might bring the T down more. I'll probably keep this dose until like November and then get another blood test. If my T is low enough (around where it is now) I think 25 mg of bica shouldn't be too bad. I mean I am at the like lower limit of the male range currently.

Maybe I'll consider cypro for a while, good idea.


Fuck, I hate being masc.

>>6975226

>>6972639

>>6975174
>So basically you're saying they even though you grow female parts and try to present feminine at the end of the day you understand that you're male?
>I respect that tbqh.
Mutual respect right back at ya. It's cool to see a non-skittle-popper understanding it that well.
>Still wish you would all stop poisoning your bodies though... you can be androgynous and like the look and style without putting all of that weird stuff in you.
I see what you are saying. But.
Boiboobs are fun, and there's only so much styling you can do to feminize/androgynize before it gets creepy. The creepiness of the "hon" or crossdressing effect occurs when someone is styling and presenting way more feminine than they actually are.. hormones are a way to raise the baseline femininity, thereby either increasing the potential for androgyne/femme styling, or just making the existing styling look more natural / less creepy.

So...tl;dr would be, I suppose, that we take hormones because we fundamentally have the same mental illness trannies, but we don't engage in relativist beliefs, but we do want to actually physically feminize our bodies.

>>6975226
Me and the trannies who are my friends are like that though, i realize that's a self filtering group as people generally only make friends with similar opinions as themselves and so this might not be representative of the majority of trannies but trannies aren't some monolithic group. Different people have different opinions amazingly enough.

I have literally never gendered myself female or referred to myself with female pronouns because it feels very uncomfortable to do so, like im lying or trying to force them to think what I am. (like i do this to a probably unhealthy degree where i often just don't refer to myself in public) But if they gender me based on how i look and act what have i done wrong? I only wish to make my body more like what I want it to be, much like you. And if people assume things based on that I haven't forced anything onto them, they have simply made assumptions.

I'm not saying you have to call yourself a tranny, you can "identify" as whatever you want, have whatever nice set of self labels makes you comfortable. It's just that believing you need to subscribe to "new age relativism" or "do pronoun stuff" to be counted as trans is simply incorrect. I can see why you might believe this given the visibility and possibly large numbers of people who do this, but to believe it is a requirement, part of the definition of being trans, is wrong.

>>6975226
>but they are trying to get everyone to call them females (which they are not) and are generally delusional and retarded. Honestly read the shit they say its just role play
My nigga

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>>6974984
No ragerets

>>6975299
>So...tl;dr would be, I suppose, that we take hormones because we fundamentally have the same mental illness trannies, but we don't engage in relativist beliefs, but we do want to actually physically feminize our bodies.
is that what a femboy is nowadays? like i swear most of you were just gay twinks back even like... a few years ago when this board was made

regardless yeah it seems like you share the same brain shit as trannies and the same stated and held beliefs of people who consider themselves trannies. not saying im more correct than you in calling myself a tranny. just that pretending theres a difference besides a self adhered label is just wrong

>>6975309

Good post. The trans hate in this thread isn't really warranted seeing how similar mtfs can be to femboys.

>>6975309
>I'm not saying you have to call yourself a tranny, you can "identify" as whatever you want, have whatever nice set of self labels makes you comfortable. It's just that believing you need to subscribe to "new age relativism" or "do pronoun stuff" to be counted as trans is simply incorrect.
You will be accused of violating safe spaces.
No trans community will permit you calling them out on their hugbox bullshit and trying to inject a dose of reality. We created /femgen/ essentially as a safe place from safe places, a reverse-containment area to keep people OUT who would have you buy into their delusions before being accepted.

>>6975352
>like i swear most of you were just gay twinks back even like... a few years ago when this board was made
We've diverged from the gay twinks, actually. Twinks are very happy in the gaygen, and a good fit for them, too. This thread is for non-relativist trannies and people halfway between twink and trap with an emphasis on androgyny, basically.

This is making me lightly consider like just living as a femboy instead of staying non-passing boymode mtf which I am now. I just hate being seen as a male though.

>>6967004
>tfw id look like this if i even lifted, lost weight and got brow and chin ffs
Just 15k. Thats all I need to save. 15k. 30 months. Ill be 25. 15k.

>>6975360
>When I say this stuff I mean the majority. The loud voice. Obviously ive met some that accepted that they werent female and tried to not participate in the strange stuff they do like your friends. But the majority isnt like that. If I was trans I would try to be an example of something to be.
yeah no i get that its the loud voice and all (though i feel less so on here desu most people here are like this i think)

its just anon saying it was a fundamental part of being trans, participation in "new age whatever" and shit.

i mean i guess you could say it is, in which case yeah id probably be redefined into a femboy. but like... whatever the label is kinda irrelevant

>For me its a health issue...i think you should find other ways to make yourself feminine and pretty without resorting to weird chemicals.
there aren't like serious health issues stemming from it but desu even if it gave you cancer in 50 years id be fine with it.

like imagine if smoking was the only thing that made you not want to be dead.

id be happier being happy for 40 years until i died of lung cancer than living miserable for 80 years

>>6975361
idk i mean i get it, like the most visible shit really is the opposite of what you guys believe i guess. just feels like acting like theres an actual difference between us besides disagreement on some gender definitions is a bit odd, i mean there are already people on both sides who blur the lines between tranny and femboy and stuff, like you say we're basically the same thing

>>6975366
>You will be accused of violating safe spaces.
like, dont go places you're not wanted right? i just dont go and talk to people with vastly divergent opinions to me

>No trans community will permit you calling them out on their hugbox bullshit and trying to inject a dose of reality.
i guess i really don't care, you can be a weird pill popping freak and call yourself a man or a woman or w/e and the subtle definitions of which one is "correct" really isnt something that matters a lot to me. I do what i do to my body to get the result i want, looking like what i want, being treated like what i want, that's the end of my radius of caring. The only trans community i participate in is like... a discord group and we never talk about political shit like this because it's not relevant, it's just a chat group and a whining about being ugly group.

>>6975381
>This thread is for non-relativist trannies and people halfway between twink and trap with an emphasis on androgyny, basically.
haha that's so specific

like i get why cause femboys and trannies hate each other but i also get why people bitch about all the tranny generals when they get this specific

>>6975423

Thanks.

>>6975427

iktf. I'm wondering if it's possible to like take out a loan to fund it, but I've never taken a loan before and I don't know how.

>>6975429
>saying it was a fundamental part of being trans, participation in "new age whatever" and shit.
No trans community, even here on 4chan, will allow you in unless you're willing to respect and validate its members' delusions.

>>6975452

Why insist upon making such blatant overgeneralizations?

>>6975452
i mean i guess i do? ill think of people as girls if they think of themselves as girls and visa versa? like what does it really matter to me?

i mean real life especially where im like everyone else, if it looks like a girl ill think its a girl. it's basically the same thing i function off of, if i look like a girl people will think im a girl and that makes me happy even if its technically incorrect.

and on the internet its like, you're words on a screen i dont have that many fucks to give about it

>>6975452
>>6975468
i guess that means i do hold some new agey beliefes and shit after all.

like if i knew a trans girl in real life i wouldn't care about 'technically male not a real female', socially female is socially female to me if im not like, having sex with it. like if something looks and acts like a girl im going to instinctively think its a girl even if i know that's technically incorrect

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>>6974787
>We have gender dysphoria

>>6975170
Idk I would also like answers on this. Having moisturizer does make me not touch my face a much so maybe it's worth it if only for that.

>>6974787
> gender dysphoria
NO

>>6975320
Faye how was sex with ur nephew's gay friend?

>>6974984
They are not that poisonous.

>>6975043
Don't worry, we stay out of the cancerous /gaygen/ as long as your cancerous Grinch poster stays away from here.

>>6975594
>>6975508
>tfw dysphoric about my masculine features but I don't want to be female

>>6975745
They are not poisonous*

>>6975810
iktf

calling it gender dysphoria is wrong, i think, but body dysphoria doesn't really cover it either. we're probably just too niche to get our own vocab

>>6975886
Body dysmorphia perhaps.

>>6976255
>>6975886
Or better yet, simply enjoying being a cute-as-fuck effeminate male.

>>6975810
>denial

>tfw no Kaworu bf

>>6975352
>>6975438
>>6975381
We aren't trannies, not one little bit.
that anon had a bad explanation

>>6967024
Are you going for a Frida Kahlo aesthetic?

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>>6975411
being a fem anything is preferable to presenting male, senpai, do it
people are so much nicer to me now it's fuckin weird

>>6977209
Nice hair.

>>6977238
thnx :)

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Is it possible to get rid of stretch marks, or will I never be a qt twink because I used to be fat?

>>6973845
im crying

it might just be because I'm high af right now but I have the sudden urge again to tell you guys I think you're fucking awesome and fuck anyone who doesn't respect your gender identity

I live in a city where there's plenty of full-on femboys as well as trannies and stuff (it's an abnormally progressive area) and whenever I see you guys around it makes me feel warm inside 'cause your just so fuckin' cute and 'cause I'm so glad to see people living how they want and the self-determination involved
keep on doing you, folks <3

>>6977285
There's nothing wrong with stretch marks man

>>6977332
>tfw will never be in an orgy with lots of femboys

>>6977332
Where do you live where there are like any femboys

>>6977357
Norwich, UK
second-biggest Green Party stronghold after the even gayer Brighton & Hove

>>6977363
Damn It's out of the US well that sucks for me

>>6977370
wow he kinda has the same bone structure as me

>>6977399
fair, I'll look it up
I should prolly stop posting for now though, this isn't a thread for trannies like me

>>6967024
YOU.

>>6977209
>>6977332
You literally look exactly the same but with a bad wig on, gtfo tripfag. You feel obligated to post your shit pictures and use a trip because you're an attention whore. You're not one to come here and give advice about what we should present as because we're BOYS and present as BOYS. We don't have a "gender identity" like we're a bunch of tumblr shitters, we identify as MALE because that's what we are, indentifying as anything else means you're not a femboy. If you really do respect us then you would turn your trip off and stop spewing tranny bullshit in our thread.

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>>6977390


Considering your both masculine males its not surprising.

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>>6977752


tfw like harrasing femgen with my ugly face.

>>6977705
Leave eme alone. I don't mind their posting

>>6977209
>>6977332
kill yourself ogre

>>6977761
>>6977752
So hot

>>6977285

Look up CO2 laser skin resurfacing or chemical peel.

>>6977705
You feel obligated to post a wall of text when no one cares.

kys

>>6977879
No honestly, not a tranny and I don't want mtfg drama in here and you sure are doing it.

Go to tranny gen if you have to keep acting like one.

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>>6977161
>Kaworu
He was literally supposed to be a soul mate for Shinji and they were gonna kiss and stuff in the original

http://pastebin.com/x0uVd4hw

>>6974193
Omfg wtf else do you want us to call it? Gender Autism?

I want to rape a femboy

Who wants to apply?

>>6979157
>Butt lifts up into the air involuntarily

>>6979180
Your ass is mine, gay boy >:3

>Tfw want to be a bottom boy but 6'1" and masc build

O well.

>>6979187
*Smiles with glee*

>>6979189
Tall femboys are cute.

>>6979189
>be 6'2
>end up in contact with a 6'5 gaymosexual
>turns out to be a dick
>also turns out to be a imminent hon

at least I still get to bully other femboys. my faves are the irritating overcompensating "total doms"

I've never fucked one but I cannot get enough teasing them.

>>6979230

O rly?

>>6979271

Why not both? :o

>>6979292

Finding a guy who loves me and is taller and stronger than me is my biggest fantasy of all time. It must be nice being gay.

>>6977363
Oh thank fuck you're at the opposite end of the country praise Him

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>>6979189
Just take blockers for a femboy body

>>6980135
Yea except for the part where I doubt that will work for a built guy

>>6980135

Height/weight?

I slowly got chubby since I got on HRT lol and I realized kinda recently....
5'8'' and 134 lbs. That doesn't sound that fat to me but like my stomach seems to stick out and isn't flat anymore lol. Trying to think about losing weight or set a target weight. But I guess I'm on estrogen too which probably makes a difference. You have a really nice body lol so I'm curious your ht/wt/hrt dosage.

Before hormones I was like 120 lbs and could like not gain weight no matter what I ate.

>>6980194

Blocking test will reduce your muscles.

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>>6980385
If your skeleton is shaped in such a way where your ribcage is like pic no amount of test block will help you

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>>6980135

>>6980512

Human ribcages aren't shaped like that really. He has layers of muscle.

>>6980551
A lot of guys have an upper body shaped like that not because of muscle but by the way their skeletal structure

>>6980135
WEW
E
W

what happened to your thigh, pham? why is all bloody and cut up?

>>6980602
I can attest to that. I am skinny as h*ck but my shoulders are still as wide as Jackman's.

My body would certainly look better with some muscle on but I don't want to look like that.

>>6977332
>robin posts positivity in the thread and gets shit on for it
normally i'd join in but jesus christ that's catty

I need some advice femgen!
My mother always thought I had low test for a number of reasons but recently she's been really anal about it. She's made an appointment for me to get my t levels checked. The thing is.. I've been on bica for over a month now. The appointment is this weekend so my question is, should I stop taking the blockers till my test or should I not worry since I haven't been on them very long?

>>6980922
How old are you if you're older than 18 tell her to fuck off

>>6980922
you should stop taking them temporarily, and also tell the doctor/your mother that you refuse to take artificial hormones or some luddite bullshit

>>6980922
Bicalutanide does not stop the production of androgens, it merely stops it from binding anywhere. By itself, this should increase androgens levels and then balance back normal as the brain trys to corr
ect it to normal. But bicalutamide passes through the blood-brain barrier in humans, so the brain detects less androgens and will increase its production. Also, do not let your mother boss you around.

>>6980947
it will raise estrogen levels in the body though

>>6980922

If you are only on bica then your T levels will probably be relatively high lol. Stay on bica and take the test for the lulz and the report back here with the results/greentext.

>>6980832
>gets shit on for it
hehehehe
get it? robin is into poo play

>>6980939
I'm over 18 but she's supporting me through college and I really can't afford to do that.

>>6980940
Yeah I wasn't going to take anything they offered.

>>6980947
>>6980950
I knew bica didn't decrease t levels but idk if stopping would do much the test is in like two days so I might just stay on it

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>>6980922
You're on bica right? That means the result will come back showing relatively HIGH T levels. Congrats, your mom's gonna be so happy when she finds out her son is a high test alpha male God

>>6980962

The half life is like 5 days so stopping it wont do much anyway.

I'm curious about what your mom has been saying to you lol. Post story plox.

>>6980949
Yes, so semi-OP should take some aromatase inhibitors.

>>6980940
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT, PHAM, he doesn't realize bica raises your T to astronomical levels but blocks it at the receptor level.

>>6980974
but also raises blood estrogen levels which they'll be testing for

>>6980974

Not astronomical. Like 1.5 to 2 times.

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>>6980979
Its a place that just tests testosterone I think, they're cheap and for old dudes with low T

>>6980968
Maybe she'll stop giving me shit

>>6980969
Okay, I'll post a short bad one in a bit gotta take a shower

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>>6980832


fuck off robin you man freak

>>6980979
Unless he also takes actual estrogens he could just dismiss it as coincidence. Steroid users also have higher estogen levels because anabolic steroids increase testosterone aromatization that sometimes lead to classic gyno steroid dudes have.
>>6980981
Well if average T level in males is 350, I'd say 525 or 700 is pretty decent.

>>6980997
could make a really hot buff dude tbqh

>>6980997
lol jesus christ i'm not robin

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>>6980922
>be me, 13
>not tall/big like other boys
>didn't have gf like other boys
>mom is sad im not like other boys she thinks ill grow into it
>16 now, same shit
>now look like a preteen, have deep voice, stronger jaw
>mom loves it, im a "handsome man"
>18, haven't changed since then (still wear the same shoe size too lol)
>still no gf
>mom gets sick because of adrenal gland shit
>she researches hormones
>she thinks I have low t
>i try to blow it off like yh some people do its fine
>she gets really anal, pestering me everyday
>don't want to be any more masc while i figure things out
>take t blockers
And now we're caught up, sorry if its shitty it's my first greentext c:

>>6981113

It's okay not shitty!
Well good luck with the test.

>>6981130
heh
test

>>6980997
Mtfg cancer out

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>>6981130
Thanks!

Thanks for help guys!

>>6981521
Are u sad u can't be a femboy Mr. Grinch?

>>6981858
no one cares

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uuhhg

>>6982002
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>6981960
nice skin senpai

>>6982301
kill yourself my man

>>6982374
grinch autist

>>6980224
171cm
48kg

>>6982779
I'm fem4gen, I want to fuck everyone here.

newgen
>>6983277
>>6983277
>>6983277

>>6983290
>early
>anime pic from tumlr
Ignore this retard, probably grinch again

>>6983354
>doesn't know 2n5
heretic

back to the mascgen with you

>>6982734

Wow lol, so close to me in height!
I want to get skinny but like I sorta like how my face looks when it's fatter since it looks more soft/feminine. So idk what weight to target.

>>6983707
how about you try to cultivate yourself as a person instead of being some dumb object

>>6983800
Being an appealing object improves confidence which improves motivation which allows you to become the first SRS surgeon to operate on yourself.
Is simple, stupid

>>6974942
25 mg of bica daily ok or what guys?

>>6975121
or we could just throw gender out the fucking window and get on with our lives.

>>6983870
just roll with that. I highly recommend getting a letter and getting the drugs legit or finding an informed consent clinic tho, at least then there'll be someone to tell you how much to take and get bloodwork done. Much safer that way.

>>6980512
>Ribcage passes through the empty spaces under armpits

Lad

>>6969425
>To think a girls never been this sweet and loving to me
Behold the magic of boipucci

>>6975170
Sleep snug, smug

>>6969392
I'm so jealous :) good for you, I hope it works out

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>>6967004
I used to be skinnyfat (172cm, 60kgs.) and I really miss this, things changed when I had to move back in with the family.

In Australia, cigarettes are crazy expensive, should I take up smoking? It has helped with stress in the past but that's only if a smoker friend offers a couple drags.

>>6986684
ew no, what a stupid idea

>>6986966
that's what the goddam purpose of femgen is

trannies without the "identifying as a woman" bullshit

>>6981960
how do i get nice floofy hair like this

I'm going to a real salon tomorrow. I realize this is a general question, but I'm not looking for a hard answer: what kind of hair cut do I "ask for"? You're supposed to bring a picture or something, right?

I just want something moderately feminine. I have pretty straight hair that barely reaches my shoulders.

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>>6990380
Show him this picture. It's cute af

>>6989196
i honestly dont know; its always been like this and that picture is very candid, as in, i didnt do anything with my hair/face and whatnot. just a bed head picture

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fem/10?

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I'm older and slightly chubbier than most fembois. Do I still get daddie's cummies?

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>>6991633
WAI IS IT SIDEWAYS!!

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Last one for daddie's cummies.

>>6991643
Ipoophone stretching my pics ;(.

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>>6991633
I DID IT DADDY!

>>6991315
so qt
>>6991359
hot twink
>>6991633
>>6991639
>>6991648
W E W
E
W
cuteness overload tbqh

>>6991639
Who's the lad behind you?
Backstory?

>>6991772
I was homeless and him and his big bear bf took me in. He shaved my GT/BP and shreked me... then we had some kind of weird 3some thing with him and the bf the next day.

>>6991359
mtfg trip/10

>>6986888
Why the fuck do you miss being skinnyfat?!?
Are you fatfat now? wtf

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>>6967004
what is this

what the FUCK is happening in this thread

>>6991837
>bear is shorter than the femboy

must be a ftm

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>>6991633
>>6991639
>>6991648
I HAVE NO FUCKING WORDS

YOU ARE FABULOUS AND BEAUTIFUL

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOLY FUCK YOU HAVE MY IDEA BODY (except I want to be slightly skinner but that's just because I love skelly aesthetics)

KEEP UP THE BOYBOOBS MY MAN