/femgen/ - DARE edition

Fembois are losers in all seriousness.

>>6870520
Ur a fag 2bh lad

>>6869892
Reposting this question since everyone is moving over here.

>>6869045
Good. You made it.

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>>6870504
>he seriously thinks he can escape the Fem'n'em Mafia
Join us or DIE.

No seriously you WILL die sooner than any of us because testosterone literally wastes away your telomeres a.k.a. protective coding preventing DNA degradation.

No testicle-intact white man over 25 is ever cute or fem enough to be a femboy, you know. Hormones bypass that, friend. Just ask Stav Strashko and Andrej Pejic, two femboy gods who wouldn't be where are they today without a little help from femnems

>>6870414
I'm blasting the bicalutamide and estrogen until I feel the tits coming on then I'm going FULL MAD"MAN" and just stacking the raloxifene.

>>6870663
i really hope this isn't a meme because this is my nonironic plan
i don't want boyboobs, but i want the hips and face ;-;

>>6870670
from my understanding, raloxifene is a substitute for estrogen, and i think it still HAS estrogen in it idk

>>6870710
You have almost no understanding, my dude.

Raloxifene basically blocks estrogen in the breasts and amplifies it in the bones.

>>6870663
I wish you good luck anon please don't die and report back

>>6870625
Having only one x chromosome will shorten your life and make you much more likely to have any kind of genetic disease. With two x chromosomes you at least have a backup for everything. People with only one x chromosome will always be more likely to die younger.

>>6870737
doesn't estrogen in the bones make you an osteoperosis target though?

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Hey guys, I'm the person that made the website.

I think I'm going to replace the IRC with a link to the skype group.

Can someone post it?

>>6870772
Post the discord as well, I'll add them both

>>6870772
can you make the website layout something other than a small square in the middle of the screen

>>6870772
Do you have source for that pic?

>>6870782
>>6870782
I'll see what I can do.

>>6870770
Osteoporosis comes from a LACK of estrogen in the bones and a poor diet.

>>6870772
We don't use the Skype group anymore it still exists so that we can redirect people to the Discord server

>>6870831
Oh... well post discord.
>>6870782
I made it a little bigger, although it may still look shitty. I'm a programmer not a designer.

>>6870625
andreja got grs ya dickbit

>>6870857
andrej*
trannies will never steal our femmegod

>tfw benis is ded
Fug

>>6870956
what AA and how long

>>6870845
https://discord.gg/fyj7X

>>6870966
cypro and about 15 months now

it worked really well but i forgot to masturbate and now it's ded. don't let it happen to youuuuuuu

>>6870987
Man I don't think I can forget to masturbate even though I'm 3-4 months in already. I can notice the extreme decrease in libido but I still masturbate everyday as always.

But it's spiro and not cypro, so that may be a factor.

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>>6869661
Post link

>>6870831
Actually that last link expires
https://discord.gg/3bGZwy4
This one should be permanent

>>6870995
i can barely get to it once a week tbhh

porn just don't excite me anymore and there is nothing to fill the void

>>6871048
try looking for new things, you may have some fetish you don't know about

>>6871058
I just want to get fucked so bad these days I don't even want to masturbate

>>6871075
Oh well that's fine then, as long as your sex life isn't ruined

>>6870995
Think it just depends on the person. Been on spiro 6 months and occasionally go a few days forgetting to masturbate. Actually that was the case this week. Painful boners aren't fun.

>>6871094
Well I'm not worried anyway, more time to practice videogames if it happens

Honestly don't see the point of these threads now it's become /mtfg/ Mk II

>>6870987
I've been on cypro about 7 months, spiro over 2 years before that, didn't masturbate for long periods of time on both meds and I can still use it whenever I wish.

Have you tried different fapmaterial? I find that physical and mental stimulation is required to get a boner, that mental stimulation being something that turns me on. Maybe you need to re-find what turns you on.

>>6871159
nice meme
fuck off

>>6871159
Except it's nothing like /mtfg/

>>6871159
I can notice you never actually seen /mtfg/

>>6871208
>>6871216
>>6871227
guaranteed replies

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>>6870739
Day one:
50mg Bicalutamide
2mg estradiol valerate

No noticeable effects!

>>6871492
>starting with estradiol

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How do I become a qt trap/femboy?

Are there any tutorials?

>>6870625
Is estrogen needed, or is the antiandrogen enough?

>>6871575
Antiandrogens are supplementary to estrogen and are merely used so that estrogen can run unopposed in the body. Remember that testicles can always churn out testosterone ten times the female average and we don't want that.

Using AAs only is pretty pointless.

>>6871522
>tfw naturally predisposed to be flatchested
I take 5mg of bioidentical estradiol sublingually every day and I still got nothing. :^)

>>6871702
it's not about the tits anon it's that radically changing your hormone levels is bad mkay

>>6871711
Yeah.
I started at 2mg myself.

>>6870625
Actually, androgenic anabolic steroids slow down telomere wasting.

The "aging" effects from testosterone are just male secondary sex characteristics that occur as men get older, as opposed to degradation of telomeres

>>6871821

The life expectancy of males is almost always lower than females though. And most old men seem less healthy than their wives. Why is that?

>>6871568
lurk moar

>>6871836
Men are the ones that are police officers and servicemen. Some of them die.

>>6871821
>patients with diseases that are thought to result from defective telomere maintenance benefit from treatment with androgenic anabolic steroids
interdasting
still, i don't feel like hulking myself up just because androgens do the exact same thing as estrogens

>>6871855
And in recreation, men take more risks. Like driving fast and doing adventure sports.

>>6871836
because they eat shit compared to their wives who are always obsessed with le latest health fad

>>6871836
>>6871821
Testosterone causes increased risky behavior, can cause androgenic cancers, and many other things, including a heightened metabolism.

This is why eunuchs have a longer life expectancy.

>>6871974
heightened metabolism might be the reason why men die earlier

>started hormones 2 months before 25
phew!

>>6871568
Start hormones
Laser your face
Find the right hairstyle
Make sure your body is top tier and carved by the gods themselves
Learn to put make up
Get your ears pierced like a girl

Never forget to be a proud man and not a sissy tranny

>>6872154
get your nipples pierced instead of your ears

>>6872287
Literally the shittiest of fetishes. Even shittier than a fetish for shit.

>>6872117
>start hormones 7 years before 25
phew!

>4 weeks hrt
>boobs already growing
>tfw my mom pinched one of them today
THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

>>6872329
>start hormones 12 years before 25
phew!

>>6870504
>▶Should I go on HRT?
>If you can deal with the tits and infertility
This should really be changed. The infertility is only while you are actively munching pills; you can stop taking them for just a few months to regain sperm production ability (Cipro aside).

The current phrasing suggests that it kills the fertility

>>6872340
>>6872329
Not them but that's tranny tier, back to mtfg with yall niggas.

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>>6872337
Are you me? I'm also 4 weeks with puffy chest already
im not ready for the anime tiddies yet

>>6872349
you're just jealous because you're masc and disgusting. hormones +5 years and a really qt boy

>>6872337
are you people's parents ok with you taking HRT? What were their reaction?

>>6872433
haha you are funny

>>6872441
pls tell

>>6872451
I can assure you almost everyone taking meds here didn't tell their parents.
Maybe one or two with peculiar family situations actually told their parents but they are the exception

>>6872463
That seems pretty hard, unless you live on your own. Surely your parents would find out or at least notice your body looking different

>>6872477
I live with my entire family too, and I'm extremely close to my parents. They usually see me without my shirt too after I take my shower.
Puffy nipples will really make my life much harder but I'll deal with it somehow

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>>6872410
>implying I'm even hormonally normal myself
Yeah look how manly my arm is, sheeyit I could probably snap you in half.

Starting too early will prevent passing as a boy. I think starting at 13 would be way too early if someone wants to be a femboy and would indicate that person is simply a really ugly MTF who came here out of desperation.

Maybe I shouldn't have included the person who started at 18 but, that is pretty risky and could put someone in not-passing-as-a-cute-boy territory.

>>6872508
But surely they would find your meds somewhere, right? How did you even get them without their knowledge?

>>6872524
No fucking way, I store them with my TCG cards lmao

>>6872477
hormones don't do THAT much dude
and why are you showing your body to your parents

>>6872524
do your parents not respect your privacy

>>6872549
Most parents don't respect their children's privacy at any age. That's the norm.

Still, had I not told my mother she never would have known. People don't just see someone get girly very slowly over a long period of time and:
1. notice it
2. connect the dots and realize they're taking hormones

People just don't know about this shit in the first place. They don't know one can pop hormones and get all feminine as a result. At most they'll give you shit for being a fag.

>>6872590
just how girly you get? you see all these progression pics for mtfs, but I've never seen one for femboys

>>6872603
It all depends on the individual but I got pretty effeminate in appearance and people say that I have absolutely nothing masculine about me. Friends who hadn't seen me in a while would kinda have a googley eyed perplexed expression and be like "holy shit you look different" but then everything would promptly resume to the way things were as if nothing was different, except now everyone treats me like this cute faglet boy rather than as one of the dudes.

>>6872624
Can you please elaborate on how you are treated differently now? Thanks.

>>6872802
That's hard to explain. I get automatically faghagged by girls, they don't see me as a threat like they do normal guys. They're much more friendly to me now. Guys see me as a faggot, I don't get treated as one of their own. People are very surprised when they see me moving anything heavy. Sometimes guys try to intimidate me (it doesn't work because I'm always carrying a gun haha suckers). I get treated like I'm this weak little sissyboy, if that makes sense. I get called cute and complimented on femininity by girls, people don't expect much of me, and don't expect anything from me that they'd expect from the average male. People treat me like I'm way younger than I am. I'm 27 but I've had 21 year olds act as if I was younger than them.
>be me
>talk about how I dont like coffee much and prefer energy drinks
>21 year old goes "heh, you'll appreciate it when you're older" as if I'm in high school or something

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>>6872515
Nice arms anon

If you're on hormones, how does fat redistribution work? Does it just happen, or do you need to burn off the original fat and gain it back for it to be noticeable?

Do you lose muscle tone as well?

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>>6870625
>tfw my dad still looked like a 20 year old well into his 30s even though he stresses himself a lot, and never had any kind of skincare routine, AND he used to smoke, and my mom was the same, and it looks like I'm turning out the same as well, except I'm healthy, take care of my skin, and don't do any drugs (22 now, look like a 17 - 19 year old according to other people).
I can probably wait a bit longer before I try out hormones...

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>>6872924
Thanks, how about some legs?

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>>6873332
If your legs are so weak, how will you chase down your enemies on the field of battle, anon?

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>>6873378
With the gun on my dresser in the legs pic. Or with this one. Or with one of my other three.

It's funny, I'm defenseless as fuck without a gun, so I always carry one wherever I go. I can't even lift 10-15 pounds above my head one handed without shaking and using extra muscles, it's sad. If my guns were taken away just about anyone could render me #rekt.

>>6870759
Except that eunuchs become super-old vampires because of no T.

>>6873257
Don't risk it, go on AAs + SERMs.

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>>6873332
I haven't shaved, so I'm not posting, but my legs individually are each as big as almost both of yours put together.

>kung fu training for godly thighs, and slim upper body

>>6873399
i'm gonna get a g43 later for this exact reason

>>6873399
are you the unic from /k/ a month-ish back?

>>6872354
>>6872433
Yeah lol, my mom doesn't know I'm on hrt, she would think I'm a crazy person. She's gonna have to wait a bit to find out.

She called me a jerk and did like a little joking aggressive grab thing, but she was clearly surprised that there was something there, because I have been losing weight and am pretty thin. Also my reaction was as bad as it possibly could've been, cuz I basically slapped her hand away and went "oh my god, mom!" Way too much reaction for someone who doesn't have tits.

>>6873412
I haven't shaved either.
T. poster of that post you linked.

>>6872908
That's kinda cute but also sounds kind of annoying

Do you like being treated like the little faglet? I would like women to treat me less like I'm a hetero dude, but I still want to fit in with the guys. Only one if my mates knows I'm on the titty skittles, and he's taken to calling me "drama queen" and stuff like that. I'll never tell him I actually like it a lot

>>6873510
I-is this the power of hormones!?

Are you a blonde?

>>6873508
HRT makes you lose weight, what?

>>6873521
Nah lol I have been losing weight over a longer period of time since before I started where moans. Went to college and dropped like 20 lbs, so my mom was always saying I look thin. HRT hasn't changed my weight, though I think it's pretty common to gain weight on it, at least in the long run. Hasn't been long enough for me to have that kind of change I think

>>6873521
nah it doesn't affect your weight

>>6873543
I'm the anon who said people gain weight on it sometimes, and I'm inclined to agree with you, I should amend my response to say that it happens, but I think it has more to do with lifestyle changes than the physiological effects of hormones

why do people want puffy nipples?

>>6873612
nothing subbier than getting your puffy nips twisted and shyly hiding your growing breasts

>>6873612
I don't
I like tee shirts

>>6873612
Because they're trannies in denial and they should go back.

>>6873685
As someone whose had small moobs for most of their life despite being a stick figure I cannot see the appeal.

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>>6873399
>tfw no guns
>tfw no bf
>tfw no bf with guns

Gun ownership is expensive and a bit of a hassle here, but I'd really really like to own and shoot one of these. Carrying is a no-no though :(

>girl from class asks if I have any powder on me
>"ummmm n-no..."
>"oh ok"
>"why would I have powder on me?"
>"you do use make up, right?"
>"n-no"
>"Really?! How did you achieve such a perfect contour then?"
>"I... don't know"

I DID IT FEM!!!

>>6873736
>Tfw want guns
>Tfw want battle rifles
>Tfw those are heavy and thus I need muscles
>Tfw
Maybe I should just kill myself.

>>6873776
>Tfw those are heavy and thus I need muscles
You don't need big muscles to shoot big weapons anon.

>>6873399
>tfw I only carry a pocket knife just in case
>I will most likely forget I even have it in case something does happen

>>6873796
Yeah you do, a fully loaded battle rifle weighs a lot.

>>6873812
I once tried a gun
I can barely pull the trigger

Why are those things so hard to use?

>>6873816
I can shoot just fine, I got operate guns jist fine and I'm fairly accurate, but holding a rifle up for long periods of time makes my arms feel so weak. You have to squeeze the trigger just right, and once you know where the break point is it becomes much easier.

>>6873823
Well I used a gun just once so I wouldn't really know
But yeah, just holding anything in my arms longer than 10 minutes makes me feel weak and tired

>>6871836
Testosterone slows down aging but it causes cardiac problems, men also have slightly weaker immune systems too, which is why we have lower life expectancy. Our higher suicide rate and greater stress placed on us to succeed may be a couple of societal factors which impact our health too.

Personally, I'd recommend taking low doses of test from your late 30s onwards, with human growth hormone (also slows down aging, make sure you don't have too much sugar in your diet taking it though, it's bad mixed with insulin), and of course take finasteride on top to mininise/stop virilising effects

>Tfw you will never reach tadzio mode

>>6873776
come be a man among men with us. there are allready many of your kind here. >>31258081
post pics of you in kneesocks and/or skirt and theyll help you with whatever you want.

>>6873812
10 lbs is not a lot.

>>6873816
maybe you should try one again, but on yourself this time.

>>6873910
Don't quiote Rhodesia at me, that's my weakness... Also you didn't link it properly.

>>>/k/31258081

Think he meant this

>>6874006
Ew, I really dislike Sa/k/uya, sorry BRGanon, but we can always talk here instead

>>6873757
Nice!

>>6873910
U a mean
No bully pls ;_;

>>6873257
that means you have good genes

there are 20 year olds who take care of their skin, eat healthy stuff, never smoke and still look like shit

>>6874195
>tfw had good genes and didnt take care of your skin or eat healthy
>eyebags and laughlines on top of what was once a genuinely good structure

gonna shoot myself in a minute

>>6873518
It's the power of no test and being blonde combined.

>>6873910
>>6873838
>>6873823
>>6873816
>>6873796
I'm the guns/legs poster from above and when 10lbs is hard for you to lift above your head one handed, heavier rifles become unwieldy. I am much worse at holding my .308 steady compared to before, and it is tiring to hold it up for long. Don't underestimate what a lack of testosterone can do especially when coupled with not working them arms out because you like being a weak little bitch.

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>>6874365
>An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
>Mostly gay, but not all
>but not all
thanks for including me
you fucking queers
t. /pol/

>>6874407
Who are you talking to?

>>6874416
OP
you cocksmoker

>>6874407
you are not even androgynous

>>6874444
more than you deformed cretins here though

>>6874478
You look like a scene kid you mong. Kill yourself 2008 is over.

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>>6874513
still better than the age of cucks and mass immigration you're living in

>>6874521
Dude I don't give a shit about political affiliations or whatever you fucking mongoloid. Do you think this lifestyle would help you if Helter Skelter happened? Just by how fucking dumb you are makes me want to throw away all the political literature I have and give up politics for the rest of my life.

>>6874570
yes keep being mad and post in your social hug box here where you're comfy enough to post daily threads about suicide and whatnot.
You're simply going through a phase where you are to believe you're ill but it will get better.
You might want to seek help though, probably therapy.

>>6874583
Except I've never done that.

What does it mean when girls start talking about hot guys, periods, birth control, vag issues and other intimate things around you regularly? Is it safe to say they don't think of me as a normal guy anymore?

>>6874637
It means you're socially dead and not seen as a potential mate, good job you lost.

>>6874668
That could be true too. :(

>>6874668
We're in a smallish group and always talking though. I'm on the fence about whether I like guys or girls too, and don't want to fuck any of them anyways. So...

>>6874702
True, but they don't see you as a challenge or hard to get then.

>>6874668
LOL

The recommended "goal" regimen (to work up to and then maintain) seems to be
>2mg estradiol
>50mg bicalutamide
>60mg raloxifene

That translates to (at allldaychemist's prices):
>estradiol: 31¢/day
>bicalutamide: $1.66/day
>raloxifene: 46¢/day
(Plus the $25 shipping every 90 days)

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=46%C2%A2%2Fday%2B$1.66%2Fday%2B31%C2%A2%2Fday%2B$25%2F90days

That's about 82 bucks a month!
>wew drugs are expensive

>>6875056
50mg of bicalutamide daily is excessive. Once your levels are built up its half life is so long that 25mg every other day does the same thing.

>>6875056
>tfw soshulist healthcare that covers my hrt
wew

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>the smell of your estrogen'd dicc
this shouldn't be this arousing

>>6875318
iktf ;-;

>>6875291
soshulist healthcare Doesn't belive femboys exist

>>6875480
Pretty sure you have to pretend to be trans

>>6875612
this
h
i
s

>go from calm to really fucking pissed at the tiniest thing now
What the fuck. Is this the hormones, or something? I don't remember being like this before.

>>6876134
probably just tense/anxious

>>6876134
It's the hormones, yo

I am dealing with some stressful stuff now, and when things are going well I'm happy af. When things go bad, it's despair. Before I would just not give a fuck across the board

>>6876189
Don't have anything to be tense or anxious about though.

>>6876242
Well fuck. Alright, guess I'll be getting used to it then.

>>6876258
The stress is harder to handle than before. Back when I was "manly" I would face stress and it would motivate me to be stronger and more powerful. Now I feel stress and want to curl up and cry. Also when people are rude to me I want to cry, and it makes me question my self-worth.

But how much is hormones and how much is just being more emotional due to the relief of being on hormones? It's hard to say. I might be actually trans.

That said, when I'm not dealing with bullying or life-rocking stuff, I really like how I'm more reactive to my situation.

>>6876278
true
sharing emotions is pretty god tier

>>6876278
>Back when I was "manly" I would face stress and it would motivate me to be stronger and more powerful. Now I feel stress and want to curl up and cry.

I guess it's different for everyone because it's the complete opposite for me.

Being cuter and looking like a girl actually boosted my confidence and I feel manlier and motivated in general, but girlier in manners.

>>6876278
I kinda already reacted like that before hormones. I definitely feel the emotional relief you're talking about though. Feel way better in general now than before. But I'm trans even though I'm just staying as a guy.

>>6876289
Sharing emotions is great. Too bad most guys don't ever do it. I need girl friends.

>>6876134
Did you just start the hormones recently?

>>6876358
4 or 5 months ago. Being easily upset has only been within the last ~month or so.

>>6876363
Ah I was super easily irritated and volatile in emotion in the beginning, then the irritability quickly went away and it entered the rollercoaster phase, which you might be in. Now I'm around 3 years in though and I feel like I've adjusted to the altered emotional states and have become super stable again. Still different in regards to how I emotionally respond to things but now able to handle that better. I'm once again able to stop or prevent crying with ease, things like that.

>>6876416
Fuck yo, I'm only at a month and it's turned me into a sassy emotional bitch

>>6875056
You are not supposed to take raloxifene and estrogen

>>6876499
That's about par for the course, you'll stabilize eventually.

>>6870504
Can I hang out here if I'm not actually gay? I mean /lgbt/ It's alright.

>>6876542
not everyone on /lgbt/ is gay, silly

>>6876505
You can; they target different receptors

>>6875221
You got a source for its effectiveness at such levels? (I don't challenge the long half life, that's true)

>>6876416
I mean, other than the getting pissed, my general temperament really hasn't changed much. Idk maybe they're just slow to affect me. I've kinda been looking forward to being able to cry more easily though. It sucks when what you really need is a good cry, and you just can't.

>>6876624
I used to have that problem before estrogen. It will get better.

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"hey bb, got a little sumthin sumthin for ya
just some cute-me-ups.
it's okay, take one my man
just take it
everyone's been doing it! "

>>6876649
>:taking estrogen doesn't make you trans, anon!"

>>6876672
>implying male

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yooo where can i get FFS for $500 or less, fuck-o's

>>6877102
the back of gregs van or at the tip of my cock

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>>6877113
>tfw steven is a perpetual femboi
golly gee

What age range and types do you date?

>>6877133
Current partner is 23, I'm 27. Last partner was freshly 18 and I was 25.

I'd be totally open to someone older than me but it just hasn't happened yet.

>>6877133
>implying i date

About 3 months ago I started injecting estradiol valerate, started off with one 10 mg ampuole a week and never bought any spiro. So now ive been double dosing the estradiol.

If I no longer get erectiong and barely ejaculate is that a good sign that im keeping my T down enough? Also I had gyno, but my tits are certainly rounding out.

>>6877282
perhaps ask in a relevant thread

>>6877282
>>6871941

>>6877807
Maybe I will try next time, but at the moment I am too fucked up to care about which general you thibk I should ask stupid questions in.

>>6877282
Honestly unless there is zero ejaculate coming out whatsoever, your test isn't being properly lowered. You may want to consider adding 10-50mg cypro daily and staying at 10mg/week of injected estradiol valerate. I'm doing 25mg cypro per day, 10mg estradiol valerate injected per week, and that's got my test thoroughly nuked.

>>6877860
I'll give that a shot, I appreciate the help. I get a tiny amount of clear ejaculate when I masturbate at a rate of once every 3 weeks.

>>6877981
>tiny amount
How much exactly? For me it's either literally nothing or at the absolute most, a rare single extremely tiny and watery drop that usually doesn't even have enough mass to break surface tension and roll down my dick.

If it's just a teensy tiny drop of clear liquid you're pretty close if not there, everyone is a little different, but there should be either nothing or virtually nothing (like a single drop at most, and not a big one but a super tiny one)

>>6877860
source?

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>>6876579
yeah, some of us are "straight"

>>6877102
post a sob story on gofundme.
find a rich daddy.
get a job at a company with good insurance.
move to a country with proper health care.

>>6877133
i don't date. 20-30 y/o bears are pretty great, though.

>>6879345
Wrong fookin thread m8

>>6879351
oh fuck sorry
I call learning difficulties on this one

>>6879366
you're so adorably autistic

>>6879368
t-thanks
I think you guys are super cool

>>6878083
>>6871941

>>6877282
>/mtfg/

>slow again
thank god

>>6880880
let's rub our yaoisticks together before people arrive

>tfw been growing my hair for months
>still not shoulder length

It's a frustrating feeling. How long until it's there?

>>6880917
growing your hair past your shoulders is so uggo, why does everyone here feel like they need super long hair like some kind of tranny?

>>6880961
I want to get the aesthetic of pre transgender stav or andrej

>>6880961
i feel like i should try it at least once in my fem life you know

>scroll through thread
>hormones, hormones, hormones, hormones, hormones, hormones,
hormones

This general has become boring because of this. Also I'm probably one of the only people not on hormones

>>6881062
just keep redirecting them to hrtgen until they leave...

>>6880967
>Implying you look anything like those two trannies
just give up now

>>6881144
Well at least I can get my hair like them

>>6881169
even then, so what?

Why do people glorify those two anyways?
It's:
>FEM BOY

>FEM
>BOY

>BOY

Boy, not young woman
god...

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>>6881205
Dun care what you say, I've got the biggest fetish for his boy version.

He was practically the ideal archetype.

>>6880880
like clockwork, the spamming trannys off'd themselves

I love being androgynous and slightly fem while also being a man not deluded into thinking I am a girl. But every now and then I get the urge to get piercings and giant fake tits implanted and bleach my hair blonde like a giant slut. Anyone else?

>>6870504
So I'm a regular guy, but want to be more feminine. I'm hoping to at least be sissy, though not necessarily a convincing trap.

What kind of diet can I follow? If there's a meal plan out there, that'd be great. I'm about to move out of home and can eat exactly as I want now.

>>6881401
Andreja pls, Cowtits are gross. I'd off myself if mine ever got larger than beestings

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tfw ur a feminine boy and you dont like girls that much

>>6881467
You're barely a boy by this point

>>6881467
clean up your fucking room, pig

>>6881522
life is messy so my room is too. death to neat freaks. you have no personality

>>6881545
so your personality is one of a smelly slob? looks like I was right to say "pig."

>>6881467
clean ya dam room

>>6881467
clean your room you fucking mistake

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>>6881467
k can you call me soon please. we have to talk.

>>6881467
Fem gains

>>6881062
>>6881113
Instead of complaining why don't you guys talk about something other than hormones? Then you'll actually be contributing to and increasing non-hormone talk.

>>6881062
hormones are funmones

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>>6881913
How do I get better skin /femgen/?
>hormones bro your skin will be flawless
How do I get better hair /femgen/?
>you get on hormones so you don't go bald you pleb
How do I get rid of hair /femgen/?
>gotta get on them hormones your legs will be so smooth I promise
How do I look cute /femgen/?
>hormones
How do I grow tits like a fucking tranny /femgen/?
>hormones
How do I get a bf /femgen/?
>hormones
Should I take hormones /femgen/?
>hormones
How does my belly look /femgen/?
>are you on hormones?
You guys are trannies
>boiboobs are cute and also faye is 30000 years old and is still cute because hormones!

>>6882424
>faye
>cute
u r wrong

>>6875056
is this safe without doctor?

>>6882424
Bicalutamide isn't really a hormone, just a vampire food

>>6882424
Hormones simply improve so much in regards to feminine qualities and cuteness, that's just a fact you have to deal with whether you take them or not. Instead of talking about other shit all you do is complain about hormones, you're talking about hormones just as much as the others. Did you like pass your expiry date or something and regret it? I can't think of any other reason you'd be this bugurt about hormones and this obsessed with them instead of not giving a fuck like I do. I don't take them, but I don't give a fuck that others do, that's fine. Go them. Who cares? You could talk about clothes and cute shit to do and all sorts of things that have nothing to do with hormones, but for some reason you're #triggered hard by their existence.

reminder to the 5 people who have joined and disconnected: you need to talk to a moderator to join the discord.

I discovered kerchiefs and such today.

I bought one as part of my work uniform and it's to be worn beneath a jacket, but I took off said jacket when I got home and was all like "woah".

>>6882648
>removes all the testosterone, a hormone, from their body with a pill
>I-I'm not a tranny I swear!

>>6884115
>giving a shit whether someone is taking AA's or not
Tranny-tier.

>>6883588
What?

>>6884115
Technically it does not remove, only simply blocks it from binding to anything. (´・ω・`)

Are you sure that liking femboys is the same thing as being gay? I think if anything there should be a different classification scale of what constitutes homosexuality. I think that if you're attracted to guys who are very feminine, such as I know a lot of femboys are, who look very close to women, who most (imo almost straight) guys prefer, then you shouldn't be considered gay, but perhaps some very low tier of homosexuality, whereas someone who's very gay is attracted to more masculine guys. I personally am attracted to twinks, so I would consider myself about 5/10 on the gay scale, whereas when I do find those androgynous femboy guys attractive (which I very much do), in that case I would consider myself about 1 or 2 out of 10 on the gayness scale (depending on whether or not there's a penis showing). I think think rating scale is better than what we simply have right now, which is gay and straight, because I like guys but I never considered myself to be /that/ gay.

>Tfw manlet

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>>6884851
That just seems like a way to dodge around the "gay" label. "Gay" isn't a slur, it's a descriptor. Popularizing a tagging system would just enforce the already prevalent idea that homosexuality is something to be ashamed of. It's super easy to infer whether somebody wants to stick their dick in you from ten minutes of conversation. Idiots who want to fuck guys before they get those crucial ten minutes in have filters similar to what you're describing.

If you really want to let everybody know how insecure about you are about your sexuality then you could just place yourself on the kinsey scale.
>>6884950
What you're feeling right now is just /fit/'s screening process. You can do it, anon.

>>6884965
Yeah but I want to be long and thin and spindly not short. How am I meant to look like some graceful wraith if I'm short?

does redbush tea have any effects? I've heard it's very good for women to drink it for their skin but I keep seeing people disagree over whether it's good or bad or not

>>6885034
>tfw long and thin and spindly
>tfw would do anything to be short
:/

>>6885044
Why would you want to be short?

>>6885052
Because I want to be cuter

>>6885057
Short isn't cute, there are cute short people. Besides graceful > cute

>>6885059
you have to work for graceful. cute is effortless.

>>6885401
Well what's so cute about short?

>>6884965
Okay but what about straight femboys

>>6885899
If you're not careful you'll end up like that guy earlier in the thread who talks about how women just ignore him as a mate.

>tfw just turned 22
how many more years do I have left femgen

>>6886575
now, pham
>>6885899
if you are straight don't take hormones then
hormones made me gay
true story

>>6886612
Please elaborate on your second comment.

>>6886618
No him, but I had to take hormones due to a health issue, and they made me gay af.
Now I don't take them and I don't feel so attracted to guys, just a bit like before.

>>6886699
>triple dubs
Hormones more like homomones confirmed

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How do I get rid of acne, /femgen/? Should I be changing my diet to include more of something in particular?

>>6887597
Dairy is linked with acne.

>>6887617
So limit my dairy intake then?

>>6886618
before hrt i was into women with a slight fixation for cocks but now i am 100% man lover

>>6886699
>just a bit like before.
Interdating
Maybe giving men testosterone like in those conversion camps will actually make them straight

Those Conservatives surely were onto something

>>6887597
Cleanse and moisturize every day, exfoliate your body daily and face two times a week, get a razor with no more than two blades, wash yourself off after you sweat. Diet and lifestyle choices are largely unimportant. Alternatively, get on hormones.
>>6887617
A very limited amount of studies have found that dairy's slightly causally related to acne. Stop pushing this, soy shill.

>>6887662
There are plenty of other alternatives that aren't soy, dipshit. I'm not a fucking vegan.

>>6887662
Also, studies aren't personal experiences. It is pretty well known that different people react different to dairy. So, obviously the studies wouldn't be conclusive. But on a personal level why not give it a shot for a while to see?

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Don't let your dreams be memes my guys/girls/androgymotherfuckers

We're all going to make it someday

( …right? ;_; )

>>6887597
Water desu but you probably already knew that

>also try lowcarb, low-processed-food diet for 1 month

>>6886575
>not going to take hormones
-2
>going to take hormones
as many as you want

>>6886618
hormones make you gay

>>6887773
>bicalutamide $175
damn nigga did you buy a three years' supply? or are you just an inhouse c᠎uck LOL

>>6888222
not that anon but where else do you get them?

>>6884718
Cypro blocks T production and kill balls

>>6888305
The person was commenting on bicalutamide.

>>6888279
have you been on this board for 5 mins?

>>6888494
There is all day chemest but that is not much cheeper. A RX is not avalible in most places and i have been here for about a year. If you are gettting them of the dark web then, Oh

>>6888552
>he doesn't buy the generic powder from china buy the kilogram for $100
stay pleb richfags

>>6888222
>>6888552
That's the price for 90 pills of bicalutamide from allsaychemist though

>>6887773
>>6888634
if money is a problem then you should really buy a cheaper AA seriously, you will be taking these pills for years and whatever benefits you see in bica over other AAs is not worth the financial drain

>>6889331
>whatever benefits
what is it with americans and sterilizing the poor

>>6889357
from the picture the guy posted he's buying raloxifene and estrogen too, I think he's gonna be sterile anyway

>>6888634
yeah you haven't spent more than 10 minutes lurking any hormones threads then
i bet you haven't even checked archived threads

anyway, a good lesson for me to learn how to part stupid people from their money

>>6889392
nobody cares about whatever deep website you buy your shitty illegitimate sugar pills from buddy, stop posting about how bica is cheap as fuck unless you're going to tell us where you buy them

>>6889823
Nah, it's trivial to find

I cant wait for VICE to make a video about /femgen/

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>>6889939
>I see, so you call yourself a "fem boy"
>uh huh, so you take medications that create a female hormonal profile in your body, is that correct?
>and you also dress as a woman, yes?
>so what, umm, I'm just curious about how, umm, what exactly makes you different from a transgender woman?

>>6890139
>and you also dress as a woman
lol do people itt really do this

How do I find femboys? I used to want to be one myself, but then my friend got back from the Navy and he's been taking me to the gym (Purely coincidental: he didn't and doesn't know), so now I think I'll settle for just dating and loving one.

>>6890269
Kill yourself and you'll find yourself in hell, you'll find some there

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>>6890271
I'll give that some thought.

>>6890269
not by being a masc loser

>>6890269

You sound nice enough. Disregard above and start by looking literally anywhere but this fetid circlejerk.

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>>6890139
>"you know how plastic surgery is supposed to enhance your features, right? i do the same thing and no, i am not a woman just like andrej pejic and stav strashko isn't but they have to say they are to be politically correct. we do it purely out of aesthetic reasons. men aren't supposed to look like cavemen anymore and that's why i am hacking my endocrine system to stay youthful forever. how is this any different from taking very expensive vitamin pills anyway my man?"

>>6890139
B-because, I'm a boy!

>>6890139
"Is that important?"

>>6887773
>>6889331

Bica isn't that expensive if you take 25 mg/day.

Did you plan on taking 100 mg/day or something?

Also keep in mind estrogen will lower your testosterone over time even on bica.

>>6889377
Dude wat

Raloxifene increases estrogenic bone activity and decreases it in the breast
Estradiol just boosts all estrogen and helps with dat fat distribution and mental changes

Nothing there causes sterility

>>6891154
I had planned on 50mg/day of bica

Spiro kills the liver or kidneys or something, Cypro kills the balls, and Bica kills the wallet. Between those three, there's only one that I can regenerate.

>>6891197
What's wrong with killing the balls? It's not like you plan on having kids, right?

Also spiro is only bad for the liver if you already have a problem with it in the first place.

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>>6891188

Estradiol can cause sterility by downregulating testosterone production and thereby inhibiting spermatogenesis:

>estrogen binds to brain
>this downregulates GnRH production
>decreased GnRH means decreased LH and FSH production
>decreased LH and FSH means less testosterone produced in the testicles and less sperm produced
>testicular atrophy eventually
>>6891197

Just take 25 mg/day. You probably don't need more than than if you're also on estrogen. Some people even recommend 25 mg every other day.

>>6891216
I do in fact plan on having kids

I have been half considering using Spiro at first until I get a job, since short-term is OK

>>6891225
Hmm, interesting to know

>>6891236

Something most femboys and even many trans don't realize is that very high doses estrogen alone is enough to suppress testosterone production and cause sterility.

Years ago, AAs were not really used for mtfs and they just took really high doses of estrogen and it eventually shut down their testosterone production.

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>>6875056
Here anon I made this just for you ^-^

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>>6891225
>mfw pituitary gland looks like testicles

>>6891464
quality meme, made me laugh

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hey guys, total newfag here. so i basically want to take anti androgens in moderation in order to look more feminine and age more smoothly (the concept of gay death scares me immensely for instance). how the hell do i figure out what to buy, where to buy it, how much to take, etc.? i checked femgen.us and i'm not even sure which AA i'm supposed to buy, let alone where i should start looking (without straight up lying to a doctor about wanting to become a fully fledged mtf tranny). can anyone please help me? i'm just so confused

>>6893088
To figure out what/howmuch, just lurk a lot.

I recommend going to the catalog, punching "hrt" into the Search box, and checking out all the threads there. /femgen/ is usually the best.

A nice starting point is 25mg/day of Spironolactone, up it to 50 after a few weeks, to see if this is something you want. It's cheap, but it makes you have to pee and it will kill your liver if you take it long-term.

Cyproterone Acetate is also kind of cheap but will sterilize you.

Bicalutamide is AWESOME, but more expensive.

If you take antiandrogens for more than 6 months, you NEED to take at least a little Raloxifene so you don't fuck your bones.

There are 3 options to get the pills:
>Be lucky enough to have an informed consent provider nearby
>Be convincing enough to get a conventional doctor to give you a tranny diagnosis
>Buy them off of semi-legit place like alldaychemist

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>>6891225

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Is fencing a femgen approved sport.

I just picked it up and I think it's a pretty good pretty boy sport

>>6893438
>you NEED to take at least a little Raloxifene so you don't fuck your bones
Yeah no. It takes decades to fuck bones and if one takes care of themselves without test they can do fine. Proper vitamin intake, especially vitamin D and calcium, regular load bearing exercise, being healthy, these things all help prevent osteoporosis, arthritis, and other bone and joint issues.

t. eunuch

>>6894226
He should take the raloxifene to get rid of tits though

>>6894245
Yeah sure, I'm not arguing with that. Just with the bone stuff.

>>6893438
Anyone have a cheap sauce for bicalutamide? I felt best on that stuff but dollars no come easy rn.

>>6874407
dude please
stop embarrassing yourself and go back to /mascgen/

>>6894250
I've heard assetchemist and QHI have good rates for it.

>>6894247
>bone stuff
i got a bone for you to examine, bb

>>6894265
Depends on how you define good rates. 150mg/day is recommended for bical monotherapy but then estradiol suppresses the hell out of testes. Anyone know of a rough conversion ratio between, say, cypro and bical given that one is not a prostate cancer patient but MtF?

>>6894297
25mg a day or some even go with 25mg every other day and have reported all the same effects, ie body hair loss and skin softening.

>>6894297
Not the same med but Cypro is given at like 200-300mg or so per day IIRC to prostate cancer patients, but then 10-50mg for people popping estrogen or such things. For spiro it's 600mg/day if I remember right, in regards to cancer treatment, but then 200mg/day for estrogen poppers.

I'm sure it's vastly less than required for prostate cancer. Keep in mind they're also trying to -quickly- nuke the everliving shit out of test in prostate cancer patients, and it's not so dire for the needs of people just trying to feminize themselves.

I've heard multiple dosages for bica but all seem to agree that 150mg/day is way more than enough for the needs of people trying to just feminize. I've heard 50mg/day, 50mg every two days, 25mg/day, 25mg every two days, etc.

>>6894307
But what of the LH spike? Wouldn't you need to dose higher than half what's used along with another AA to account for it?

>>6894315
>Not the same med but Cypro is given at like 200-300mg or so per day IIRC to prostate cancer patients, but then 10-50mg for people popping estrogen or such things. For spiro it's 600mg/day if I remember right, in regards to cancer treatment, but then 200mg/day for estrogen poppers.

Difference there is lower LH levels in MtFs due to estradiol, no?

Anyway, maybe I was being overly cautious last time I used it by dosing so high. This is Good News (TM). *goes to buy magic pills*

>>6894329

yeah, estradiol has negative feedback on LH

>>6894349
That was a statement wrapped in a question. Like sausage wrapped bacon.

>>6893764

Basically when you don't have a certain level of sex hormones (E or T) in your body, your brain tells your testicles to produce T. When you have beyond a certain level of sex hormones (E or T), your brain no longer tells your testicles to produce T, because it thinks you already have enough sex hormone. Normally this is a negative feedback loop that stabilizes your T levels around a certain amount. Taking HRT shifts the feedback loop to stop producing T and just rely on the external source of E. Without T n the body and binding to the androgen receptors, the testicles will shrink and atrophy, causing sterility.

>>6877133
Guys at least 5years older, current bf is 30 (law student let's hope it sticks!), I'm 20. As far as types go if you have your life together and could be hubby material any fem guy will wana fuck you

>>6885566
You will never know a tall fem boys pain

>tfw 6'3 and I will never find a guy to be my big spoon ;-;

>>6887597
Was your hair down your back, not over your face

any good work-out guides to look more femmy? and do waistbands actually help make your butt bigger over time?

>>6894574
Bombshell Body Workout rings a bell, I think it's for both girls and trannies who want to look more feminine

Jogging and squats are good, cycling can be good in moderation. Basically anything lower-body focused, especially thighs, that will make you sweat is great

>>6885401
tfw graceful but not cute
maybe if i wear a mask i can be passable

>baggy sweater edition
Everyone posts barely feminine twinks in not baggy clothing

>drug abuse resistance education edition
We are all drug seeking fucks basically making our own replacement for FDA guidelines

>next thread will be "tfw fucked over by puberty edition"

>>6895003

>>6895121
>>6895121
>>6895121
NEW

>>6890269
If you want to find dem boys go on your local craigslist or grindr. If you know what a fem boy looks like fully clothed you'll b golden. (M-modest femboy reporting in)

>>6894744
>cycling can be good in moderation
but if you cycle alot is it bad if you're aiming for a feminine physique?

>>6886235
What's the story behind that?

>>6876599
Which ones do they each target?